WEBVTT - Lady Mary Wroth's Urania

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<v Speaker 1>listening and so thank you so much. Thirty two miles

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<v Speaker 1>southeast of London, stands one of the best surviving examples

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<v Speaker 1>of medieval English architecture. Penn's Hurst Palace. Today part of

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<v Speaker 1>the house and its gardens are open to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone can go visit the fourteen century home that was

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<v Speaker 1>built for the then Lord Mayor of London, which then

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<v Speaker 1>later became part of the Crown's estate. Henry the Eighth

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<v Speaker 1>would use the home as his hunting estate, evidently hunting

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<v Speaker 1>both game and wives, and Bolin's childhood home, Heaver Castle,

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<v Speaker 1>was just a few miles away. Even if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the opportunity to visit Penshurst in person, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good chance that, if you're a connoisseur of historical costume dramas,

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<v Speaker 1>the estate will pop up somewhere on your screen. Films

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<v Speaker 1>like Anne of a Thousand Days, The Other Bolin Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>even The Princess Bride, along with BBC dramas like Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>R and Wolf Hall, all feature scenes filmed at Penshurst.

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<v Speaker 1>But for all of the screen time Hollywood has given Penshurst,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still yet to adapt a story actually centered on

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<v Speaker 1>the family that once was based there. The Sydney's In

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen fifty two, Henry, the eighth son King Edward, would

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<v Speaker 1>grant Penshurst to his courtier, Sir William Sidney. William had

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<v Speaker 1>three grandchildren, Philip Sydney, the famous poet and elizabeth Ian courtier,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Sydney, a statesman and patron of the arts, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Sidney, a poet and patron herself. Thanks to them,

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<v Speaker 1>Penshurst became something of a literary hot spot. The poem

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<v Speaker 1>to Penshurst by Ben Johnson goes so far as to

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to a meeting place of the muses in

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<v Speaker 1>Greek mythology, so it's no surprise that Robert Sidney's own daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>also named Mary, would gain literary aspirations growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>such a place. In fact, Young Mary, who would grow

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<v Speaker 1>up into a woman named Lady Mary Roth, would come

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<v Speaker 1>to be known as England's first female novelist. Her prose

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<v Speaker 1>romance The Countess of Montgomery's Urania, was praised by fellow writers,

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<v Speaker 1>but not seen as favorably by the members of Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Anne's court, who thought Mary's characters suspiciously resembled some of

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<v Speaker 1>their own. As will come to see the story of

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Mary Roth and her literary career is perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>best real life representation of the idea put forth by

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Wolf in a Room of One Zone that any woman,

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<v Speaker 1>even a noble one, who put her name on her

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<v Speaker 1>writing would quote risk being thought a monster. I'm Dani Schwartz,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is noble blood. On October Mary Roth was

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<v Speaker 1>born Mary Sydney, the eldest daughter of Sir Robert Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife, the Heiress Lady Barbara Gamage. The late

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen eighties was a time of radical change within the

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney family. Just two years before Mary was born, her

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<v Speaker 1>father was elected to his first political post as a

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<v Speaker 1>Member of Parliament. That was the same year he and

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<v Speaker 1>his brother Philip would go to the Netherlands to fight

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<v Speaker 1>a battle against Spain, but only the former would return alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Upon his brother's death, Robert Sidney inherited Penshurst, which would

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<v Speaker 1>then become Mary's childhood home. To better understand Mary's future work,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense to spend a bit of time thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about her uncle and his legacy. Remember, her father was

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<v Speaker 1>one of three literary siblings. There was Philip, Robert and Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip died at age thirty one, leaving behind a prolific

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<v Speaker 1>body of work that had yet to be published. Writing

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<v Speaker 1>was not his primary focus in his lifetime, but his

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<v Speaker 1>talent was undeniable. C. S. Lewis once called him quote

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<v Speaker 1>without equal before Shakespeare, a reputation that has stuck to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. If you're going to be in second place

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone, Shakespeare isn't the worst person to be behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's most famous works include his Sequence of a Hundred Nates, Sonnets,

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<v Speaker 1>Astrophil and Stella, and the pastoral romance Arcadia. Arcadia would

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<v Speaker 1>come to be known as the Countess of Pembrooke's Arcadia

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<v Speaker 1>after his sister, Mary, Countess of Pembroke, our Mary's aunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only is the work dedicated to her, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was she, Countess Mary, who was the one to take

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<v Speaker 1>on the responsibility of editing and publishing Arcadia after Philip's death.

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<v Speaker 1>The style and substance of Arcadia would go on to

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<v Speaker 1>influence a number of writers, namely Shakespeare himself and one

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Mary Roth. But before we get there, let's speak

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<v Speaker 1>some more about the young Mary. Only a year after

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<v Speaker 1>she was born, Robert, her father, would also inherit Philip's

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<v Speaker 1>post as governor to the town of Flushing in the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant he spent most of his time abroad while

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<v Speaker 1>his family remained in England. When Mary wasn't at Penshurst,

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<v Speaker 1>much of her childhood was spent at the London castle

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<v Speaker 1>of her aunt, the Countess Mary. Countess Mary had also

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<v Speaker 1>turned her home into a literary gathering place, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be assumed young Mary had access to an extensive

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<v Speaker 1>collection of classics, humanist works, and the yet to be

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<v Speaker 1>published Philip Sidney works. The Countess's literary work went far

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the editing and publishing of Arcadia. She translated multiple

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<v Speaker 1>works from French to English and published Psalms, a joint

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<v Speaker 1>project she began working on with Philip before his death.

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<v Speaker 1>The final collection included forty three of his revised psalms

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<v Speaker 1>and a hundred and seven of her own. Notably, she

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<v Speaker 1>used her own name on all of these works, a

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<v Speaker 1>rare occurrence for the age. As you could predict, the

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<v Speaker 1>Countess would also be a major influence un Mary's future writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Splitting her time between the Countess's home and Penn'shurst, it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost a given that Mary would receive a literary

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<v Speaker 1>education her education was likely the responsibility of tutors and

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<v Speaker 1>her mother, championed by her father abroad. Much of our

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of Mary's childhood comes from exchanges between her father

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<v Speaker 1>and her adviser, in which Robert asks for frequent updates

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<v Speaker 1>about his daughter's education. She was quote very forward in

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<v Speaker 1>her learning, writing, and other exercises she has put to

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<v Speaker 1>as dancing and the virginals end quote. The advisor replied, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not uncommon for a girl of noble birth

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<v Speaker 1>to receive an informal education. It was still not yet

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<v Speaker 1>a universal practice, and Robert's particular emphasis on his daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>reading and writing was a reflection of their family values.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as the Sydney family was involved old in

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<v Speaker 1>the literary world, they were equally involved in court life.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the earliest anecdotes we have from Mary's court

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<v Speaker 1>life is of her performing a dance for Queen Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>on a royal visit to pence Hurst, and again a

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<v Speaker 1>dance in court in sixteen o two. Manuscripts preserved at

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<v Speaker 1>Penshurst tell us the teenaged Mary was quote much commended

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<v Speaker 1>by her majesty. In sixteen oh three, following King James's

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<v Speaker 1>ascension to the throne. Mary's father returned to England, he

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<v Speaker 1>was named Baron Sydney of Penshurst and appointed chamberlain to

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<v Speaker 1>the Queen Consort Anne of Denmark, further cementing the Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>family's place in court. The following year, King James married

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen year old Mary to Sir Robert Roth, the

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<v Speaker 1>son of a wealthy Essex landowner, Promising as the marriage

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<v Speaker 1>might have seemed on paper, it was truly a match

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<v Speaker 1>made in hell. Despite marrying into the Sydney family, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Roth had little to no interest in literature, as the

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<v Speaker 1>Poetry Foundation points out, quote during his entire career, only

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<v Speaker 1>one book was dedicated to him, a treatise on mad

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<v Speaker 1>dogs end quote. He preferred to spend his time hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>which didn't win him any favors with his wife, but

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<v Speaker 1>gained him quite a bit of favor with King James,

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<v Speaker 1>who knighted him in sixteen o three. Ben Johnson, friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sydneys and the famous prominent poet and playwright

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<v Speaker 1>who was quoted earlier for his love of Pencers, once

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<v Speaker 1>noted quote, my lady Roth is unworthily married on a

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<v Speaker 1>jealous husband end quote. Even more harshly. A servant of

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's once described her husband as quote the foulest churl

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<v Speaker 1>in the world end quote. He was most likely guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of philandering, gambling, and excess drinking. However, her husband's favorable

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with King James meant that Mary's place in court

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<v Speaker 1>was further secured. She was welcomed into Queen Anne's inner

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<v Speaker 1>circle and became a staple in court. Masks, a form

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<v Speaker 1>of music and dance performance that was highly popular in

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth century Europe. The first mask she performed in in

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<v Speaker 1>six oh five was written by Ben Johnson himself, and

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<v Speaker 1>the subject matter is incredibly upsetting but also perhaps unsurprising

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<v Speaker 1>for English nobility. Titled The Mask of Blackness, Mary performed

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<v Speaker 1>alongside Queen Anne and ten other friends as they donned

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<v Speaker 1>black face to play quote black Ethiopian nymphs called the

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve Daughters of Niger. The mask was so successful that

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<v Speaker 1>it inspired numerous other performances, including a sequel, The Mask

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<v Speaker 1>of Beauty, in which Anne and Mary reprised their roles.

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<v Speaker 1>While generally received positively at the time, some reviews negatively

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<v Speaker 1>considered the women's performances as Ethiopian nymphs. Quote unconvincing, You

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<v Speaker 1>don't say. Though her life was entwined with life at court,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's literary career was simultaneously starting to begin. We know

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<v Speaker 1>from our earliest reference to her work that her writing

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<v Speaker 1>must have begun circulating before sixteen thirteen, during the time

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<v Speaker 1>of her marriage. We have documented praise of her writing

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<v Speaker 1>from prominent figures in the literary scene such as William Drummond,

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<v Speaker 1>George Wither, and numerous others, But it wasn't until her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's death that Mary's career really began to take shape.

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<v Speaker 1>In sixteen fourteen, Mary gave birth to a son, James.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a month later, her husband, Robert died of gang

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<v Speaker 1>green Because it wasn't enough to be terrible in his lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert left behind a pile of debt twenty three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pounds that was now Mary's responsibility. On top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>young baby James tragically died two years later, and the

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<v Speaker 1>death of the air meant that Mary lost the Wrath estate.

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<v Speaker 1>It went to whoever the next heir was. It's unclear

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<v Speaker 1>how Mary dealt with the debt. The Sydneys, despite their status,

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<v Speaker 1>were not actually particularly monetarily wealthy. One of the first

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<v Speaker 1>major disputes in the marriage was over Mary's father's failure

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the proper dowry. But we do know that

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<v Speaker 1>Mary eventually was able to turn her folks us toward

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<v Speaker 1>new work and new love. Going forward, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story of Mary's life through her most famous,

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<v Speaker 1>or depending on who you ask, infamous work, The Countess

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<v Speaker 1>of Montgomery's Urania, published in sixty one. It's unknown when

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<v Speaker 1>exactly Mary began writing the prose romance, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been as early as sixteen fifteen. It was also

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<v Speaker 1>around that time that Mary withdrew from court life. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was of her own accord or a forced exile,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know for sure. Maybe it was a consequence

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<v Speaker 1>of her husband's dad somehow, but either way, Urania's title

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<v Speaker 1>page is a perfect bridging of Mary's past and Mary's present.

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<v Speaker 1>Underneath the word title, we get this mouthful of a byeline,

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<v Speaker 1>Let Me take a deep breath, written by the right

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<v Speaker 1>Honorable the Lady Mary Roth, daughter to the right Noble Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>Earl of Leicester, and niece to the ever famous and

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<v Speaker 1>renowned Sir Philip Sidney Knight, and to the most excellent

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Mary, Countess of Pembroke. Late deceased Countess Mary died

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<v Speaker 1>the same year as Uranias publication. Perhaps notably, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no mention of her late husband. Roth's name may have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>she would always be a Sydney. It's once again worth

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<v Speaker 1>noting that it was extremely uncommon for a woman to

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<v Speaker 1>put her own name on her work, which makes the

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<v Speaker 1>nod to Countess Mary in the byline more touching, as

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<v Speaker 1>if she carved a path for her niece to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it herself. To add the names of

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<v Speaker 1>the prominent men and writers in her family may have

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<v Speaker 1>been a move to legitimize her work, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>something the Countess ever did in her own published work.

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<v Speaker 1>So the nod to Robert who encouraged her education, Countess Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>who showed her niece what her own future could be,

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<v Speaker 1>and Philip, whose style was the foundation for Urania, can

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<v Speaker 1>also be read just as a show of respect to

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<v Speaker 1>her family above all else in regards to that style.

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<v Speaker 1>The academic Rice A. Bear, introducing a digital collection of

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<v Speaker 1>Roth's works, argues that Philip's inspiration on Roth's writing can

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<v Speaker 1>be seen in its form as quote, a long and

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<v Speaker 1>rambling prose romance interspersed with poems. That's the style Philip

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<v Speaker 1>could be credited with bringing back into fashion, and one

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<v Speaker 1>that his niece Mary further innovated. The titular Countess herself

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<v Speaker 1>also had connections to the Sydneys. She was Susan Daver,

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<v Speaker 1>Countess of Montgomery, Mary's close friend and wife to Countess

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's youngest son, making her Mary Roth's cousin in law.

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<v Speaker 1>Countess Mary's oldest son is also going to be important here.

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<v Speaker 1>He is William Herbert, the third Earl of Pembrooke, a politician, poet,

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<v Speaker 1>and once Chancellor of Oxford. If you recognize the name

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<v Speaker 1>Pembroke College, he's that guy. He will play an important

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<v Speaker 1>role in Urania, but probably not when you're expecting, and

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<v Speaker 1>more on that later anyway. As the professor Naomi J.

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<v Speaker 1>Miller points out in her article, not much to be

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<v Speaker 1>marked narrative of the woman's part in Lady Mary Roth's Urania.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary honoring her friend in the title of her work

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<v Speaker 1>is an early signifier to readers that Urania will differentiate

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<v Speaker 1>itself from the prose romance that was being written by

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<v Speaker 1>men in the ways in which you will honor female

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<v Speaker 1>friendship and in the level of personhood it gives female characters.

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<v Speaker 1>So now into the story itself. There are hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>characters in the prose piece, but they all loosely revolve

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<v Speaker 1>around the tale of two lovers, Pamphilia and Amphilanthus. Pamphilia

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<v Speaker 1>is a queen of an island kingdom of the same name,

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<v Speaker 1>while Amphilanthus is the emperor of Romans and notably her

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<v Speaker 1>first cousin. Can you guess where this is going. The

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<v Speaker 1>name Pamphilia, like many of the names and characters in

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<v Speaker 1>this story, is of Greek origin and means all loving. Amphilanthus,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, means lover of two. The conflict

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<v Speaker 1>keeping these lovers apart is in their names. Pamphilia is

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<v Speaker 1>a constant character, while Amphilanthus is inconsistent. The lovers cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be together because Amphilanthus is constantly pursuing other women, begging

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<v Speaker 1>Pamphilia to take him back each time. It is an

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<v Speaker 1>obstacle that is purely an interpersonal conflict. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>warring families keeping them apart, no meddling mythological forces, no

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<v Speaker 1>comedy of air hers. That alone would be a fresh

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<v Speaker 1>take on the genre, but added to it is Roth's

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<v Speaker 1>assertion that amphilitis is not morally worthy of Pamphilia. The

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<v Speaker 1>morality by which she defines Pamphilia is non traditional. While

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<v Speaker 1>she takes measures to inform the audience of Pamphilia's femininity,

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<v Speaker 1>her quote virtues are not the ones regularly associated with

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<v Speaker 1>women in romances, chastity, purity, et cetera. Instead, Pamphilia is

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<v Speaker 1>defined by her loyalty to her loved ones, putting forth

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<v Speaker 1>a virtue that should be prioritized by both genders. The

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<v Speaker 1>women in Pamphelia's life also play an important role in

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<v Speaker 1>her narrative. When she falls into a depression due to

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<v Speaker 1>her beloved infidelity, she seeks the advice of her friends

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<v Speaker 1>as to how to deal with this conflict. Again a

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<v Speaker 1>novel subject to give importance to in fictionate this time. Pamphelia,

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<v Speaker 1>as you have likely figured out, is a representation of

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<v Speaker 1>Mary herself. She is a strong queen whose autonomy is

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<v Speaker 1>supported by her father and uncle and Philanthus. Her lover

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<v Speaker 1>represents her cousin William Herbert. In your ania, Pamphelia expresses

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<v Speaker 1>her love of a Philanthus by writing him love poems.

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<v Speaker 1>In reality, Mary wrote a play entitled Love's Victory given

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<v Speaker 1>to William, along with a cipher that, when solved, spelled

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<v Speaker 1>their fictional counterparts names. She really was the Taylor Swift

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<v Speaker 1>of her time because he was her cousin. The Countess

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's son, Mary Roth knew William well growing up. His

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<v Speaker 1>brother Philip even lived with her in the Sydneys for

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<v Speaker 1>some time, with William visiting most days of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unknown if their affair started before, during, or after.

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<v Speaker 1>There was spective marriages. William got married only a few

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<v Speaker 1>months after Mary. It's easy to guess why Mary was

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to William. Her own husband had no interest in

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<v Speaker 1>literary pursuits, whereas William was someone she trusted to keep

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<v Speaker 1>her intellectually engaged. On top of that, he was known

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<v Speaker 1>as being particularly handsome. We do know that at some

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<v Speaker 1>point after the death of her husband, Mary and William

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<v Speaker 1>had at least two illegitimate children, a daughter Catherine and

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<v Speaker 1>son William, information confirmed by one of the elder William's cousins.

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<v Speaker 1>In the continuation of Your Ania that was published after

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's death, she introduced a new character, a night called

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<v Speaker 1>fair Design, who does not have a proper name due

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<v Speaker 1>to his status as an illegitimate child. Won the text

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<v Speaker 1>heavily hints belongs to Pamphilia and and Philanthus, So how

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<v Speaker 1>does the story end? Spoilerlert to anyone who is going

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<v Speaker 1>straight from this podcast to read Urania. Pamphilia and amphilanthus,

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<v Speaker 1>much like Rath and Herbert, do not end up together.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite a prolific career as a nobleman, courtier and founder

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<v Speaker 1>of an incredibly famous college. The longest section of William's

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia is entitled quote Arranged marriages and Mistresses. In one

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<v Speaker 1>of his own poems reads the line quote can you

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<v Speaker 1>suspect a change in me and value your own constancy?

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. Catherine and William were not his only illegitimate children.

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<v Speaker 1>Before his first marriage, he had an affair with a

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Mary Fitton. Fitton was a maid of honor

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<v Speaker 1>to Queen Elizabeth and is thought to be the mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>Dark Lady who is the subject of a series of

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare's sonnets. William admitted he was her child's father there,

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<v Speaker 1>but refused to marry her, and was thus sent to

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<v Speaker 1>Fleet Prison for a brief period in sixteen o one,

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<v Speaker 1>likely by the hand of Elizabeth herself, due to causing

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<v Speaker 1>scandal with one of her maids of honor. He and

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<v Speaker 1>Fitton were barred from Elizabethan court, but luckily for William,

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<v Speaker 1>around this time, the Elizabethan era was coming to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>Many contemporaries believed William to be a favorite of Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Anne and that it was through her influence that he

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<v Speaker 1>gained the position of Lord Chamberlain to King James, Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Anne's husband, in sixteen fifteen. Not so coincidentally, this was

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<v Speaker 1>the time Wroth began to withdraw from court life, or

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<v Speaker 1>more likely fell out a favor with Queen Anne. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>not so coincidentally, a similar story plays out in Urania.

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<v Speaker 1>There are references throughout to a jealous queen who will

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<v Speaker 1>go so far as to exile weaker rivals from court

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep her lover to herself. This might

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<v Speaker 1>have been enough to cause outrage, but compared to some

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<v Speaker 1>other allusions in Urania, the characterization of the queen was

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<v Speaker 1>too vague to draw a straight line to Anne with

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<v Speaker 1>her other characters. Though Mary did not pull her punches

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<v Speaker 1>in imitating real life court scandals, the one that caused

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest stir was in reference to the marriage of

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<v Speaker 1>Honora Denny and James Hay in Urania, Roth describes a

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<v Speaker 1>scene in which Sarellius or Hay has to step in

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<v Speaker 1>to save his wife's life from her father's violent rage

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<v Speaker 1>after she's accused of adultery. Edward Denny, the father in question,

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<v Speaker 1>was infuriated. Denny expressed his rage through how Else poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a scathing and offensive poem about Wrath, addressed

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<v Speaker 1>to Pamphilia from the Father in law of Cerelius. It

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<v Speaker 1>begins quote hermaphrodite in show indeed a monster, as by

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<v Speaker 1>thy words and works all men may const thy wraithful spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>conceived an idle book, brought forth a fool, which, like

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<v Speaker 1>the damn doth look. As Mary Ellen Lamb points out

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<v Speaker 1>in her book Gender and Authorship in the Sydney Circle,

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<v Speaker 1>Denny's critique is heavily gendered. In calling Rath a hermaphrodite,

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<v Speaker 1>he attempts to punish her for the ways she's transgressed

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<v Speaker 1>gender boundaries. The dame he refers to as is a

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<v Speaker 1>word for a domesticated female animal, saying she's subhuman but

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<v Speaker 1>she's still female. Roth replied almost immediately with a poem

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<v Speaker 1>of her own. It's rhymes, matching Denny's word for word.

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<v Speaker 1>Her map dite incense in art a monster as by

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<v Speaker 1>your railing rhymes, the world may conster your spiteful words

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<v Speaker 1>against a harmless book shows that an ass much like

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<v Speaker 1>the sire doth look Denny, not being a real poet himself,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of set himself up for this kind of besting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows a truly astonishing level of hubris. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me of men on Twitter who think

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<v Speaker 1>they might be able to win a set against Serena Williams. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>talent means almost nothing when you're a woman in a

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<v Speaker 1>man's world. Denny's response assured that Urania would be a scandal,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Mary in a treacherous situation. In a letter between

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<v Speaker 1>two members of court, the gossip quote in her book

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<v Speaker 1>of Urania, she doth papply and grossly play upon him

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<v Speaker 1>and his late daughter, Lady Hayes, besides many others she

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<v Speaker 1>makes bold with, and they say takes great liberty, or

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<v Speaker 1>rather license to reduce whom she please, and thinks she

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<v Speaker 1>dances in a net. Mary's course of action was to

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<v Speaker 1>deny her connection to the book's publication. She wrote to

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<v Speaker 1>a personal friend and a favorite of King James, the

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<v Speaker 1>Duke of Buckingham, arguing it was only meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>shared among friends, and she volunteered to stop the sale

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Based on the detail of the title page

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary's annotations in her copies, we can assume she

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<v Speaker 1>was lying. The court fuss did, however, mean that Urania

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<v Speaker 1>was never reprinted and Mary would forever be considered a pariah.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, we know Mary began to work on the

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<v Speaker 1>second part of Urania and her play Loves Victory, the

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<v Speaker 1>one she gifted to William. Speaking of William, we do

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<v Speaker 1>not know exactly when he ended the affair with Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know her characterization of him as amphil Lanthis

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<v Speaker 1>the Philanderer was an accurate one. The latter part of

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's life was sadly devoted to paying off the debt

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<v Speaker 1>left behind by her late husband. Though her father could

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<v Speaker 1>not aid financially, he did refuse requests from the Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of State to pressure Mary into paying, assuring him that

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was capable of handling her affairs. It's likely that

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<v Speaker 1>Mary died between sixteen fifty one and sixteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and sadly no literary work survived from the last thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years of her life. Still, despite the scandal. No one

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<v Speaker 1>could take away Mary's status as the country's first female novelist.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be over forty years before the next english

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<v Speaker 1>woman published fiction under her own name. She was Margaret Cavendish,

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<v Speaker 1>Duchess of Newcastle, and in the preface to her sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four work Sociable Letter, she cheekily quoted the final

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<v Speaker 1>couplet from Denny's poem to Mary, in which he argues

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<v Speaker 1>that wise and worthy women don't write fiction. Work go

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<v Speaker 1>the works, leave idle books alone. For wise and worthier

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<v Speaker 1>women have written none. That's the story of Lady Mary Roth.

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<v Speaker 1>But stick around after a brief sponsor break to hear

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about her literary legacy. While Urania

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<v Speaker 1>drew largely ire from contemporaries, it had one supporter in

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson. Not only did Johnson believe that Penshurst enhanced

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<v Speaker 1>his literary mind, but Mary herself. In a sonnet to

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<v Speaker 1>the Noble Lady the Lady may Erry Roth, Johnson argues

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<v Speaker 1>that Mary's work made him not only a better poet,

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<v Speaker 1>but a better lover. If William could not learn from

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<v Speaker 1>am Philanthusis flaws, perhaps Johnson did I that have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lover and could show it, though not in these

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<v Speaker 1>in rhythms. Not wholly dumb, since I ascribe your sonnets

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<v Speaker 1>and become a better lover and much better poet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson every lover today can learn loyalty and constancy

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<v Speaker 1>above all, don't be an Amphilanthus. Noble Blood is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild from

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