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Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? Everybody? Welcome man, Week three

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Speaker 1: uh was running around with the com rex box and

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's good to go here. Jared good,

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Speaker 1: everything good, everybody?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah for now for now? Yeah, So just full disclosure.

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Speaker 5: I am in Portland, Oregon, ahead of a game between

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Speaker 5: San Diego State and Oregon State. We're gonna have an

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Speaker 5: hour and a half drive down to Corvallas, so I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna have to split for our final hour here, gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: But but yeah, we are set up using tin cans

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Speaker 5: and bubblegum and paper clips, and we're in a hotel

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Speaker 5: room right now, so we'll find out if the connection holds.

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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what. We got all of our

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Speaker 5: at least for now.

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Speaker 6: It's better than what I had last week, which was

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Speaker 6: literally a tomato can is an empty It was an

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Speaker 6: empty shell of nothing. But our fine audio technicians at

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio have gotten me back in the saddle

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Speaker 6: very excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great right there. And I forgot about your

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Speaker 1: issues last week, Jared, And now we got a rich

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Speaker 1: going mcguiver mode. Sounds good right now, sounds great. Fingers crossed,

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Speaker 1: it lasts listen. Not a great week for Colorado State,

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Speaker 1: I would say, because Jay Norvell open mouth inserted foot

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Speaker 1: Colorado State at Colorado tonight and this has been gotta

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Speaker 1: be the most talked about story throughout the week in

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Speaker 1: college football. At least, this was Jane Norvel, Colorado State

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Speaker 1: head football coach, talking about how he dresses for an

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Speaker 1: ESPN sit down interview. If you will check this out.

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Speaker 7: I sat out with.

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Speaker 5: ESPN today and I don't care if they and Boulder.

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Speaker 5: I told them I took my hat off, and I

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Speaker 6: And I said, when I talked to growing ups, I

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Speaker 1: That's what my mother talk Okay, So that's clearly a

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Speaker 1: shot at coach prime at Dion Sanders, who wears a hat,

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Speaker 1: who wears his glasses, And Jay Norvell says, oh, I

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Speaker 1: is taking off like wildfire. Not a smart thing to

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Speaker 1: right now is Jay Norvel and Colorado State. They made

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Speaker 1: it personal. That's what Colorado was saying right now, and

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Speaker 1: it serves as additional motivation. It's just not a smart

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Speaker 1: year olds on the playground. What is it, I take

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Speaker 1: my hat and my glasses up. This is college football,

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Speaker 1: these are coaches. What are you talking about right now?

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Speaker 1: Not a smart move by Jay Norvel.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that it doesn't mean that it

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Speaker 5: Where the loudest voice wins a lot of the time. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Dion Sanders represents the loudest voice in the room. I

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Speaker 5: mean politically, we just saw this happen back in twenty

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Speaker 5: Well that's what coach.

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Speaker 1: P Yeah, there's no listen, man, there's no doubt. It's

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Speaker 1: not a smart move, not what you want to be

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Speaker 1: This was Coach Prime what he had to say talking

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Speaker 5: It was just gonna be a good game and they

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Speaker 5: It's a Battle of Colorado, but they don't mess run

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Speaker 1: Look man, you're gonna sell that to your team, And

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Speaker 1: that's what Coach Prime is definitely doing with the Buffs here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So the thoughts I had on this, First of all,

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Speaker 6: And then I heard it and and I it was everywhere.

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Speaker 6: picking it up. And again, I think that's just the

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Speaker 6: Beatles right Colorado is the Beatles right now of college football.

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Speaker 6: Anything they do, anything that people talk about any team

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Speaker 6: is magnified. There's two ways that I think about it.

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Speaker 6: I will give you what I think. Maybe Coach Norvell

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Speaker 6: was thinking two things. First of all, getting his program

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Speaker 7: You just played it.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden they started chiming in and then

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Speaker 6: the spotlight shifted back. But for a brief moment in time,

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Speaker 6: Jay Norvell was the center of the college football universe.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if that's a good thing, but

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Speaker 6: maybe in his mind, he just like Rich alluded to,

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Speaker 6: the other part of me says, well, maybe this is

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Speaker 6: not going to be able to answer the bill for

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Speaker 6: whereas he was just putting them in a I think

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Speaker 7: But again, I think.

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Speaker 6: On his side of it, he probably thought maybe I

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Speaker 6: the tactical advantage is, hey, we're gonna get our program

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Speaker 6: a little bit of attention this week too, because there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of love going around Colorado and I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: see if I can't grab some of it. But I

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Speaker 6: think he just I think the delivery didn't quite resonate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a look, I hear you he got some

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Speaker 1: pub but you always hear there's no such thing as

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that a bad thing is I get getting

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Speaker 1: some publicity, But how is this actually translating to your

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Speaker 1: the opposite of the al Pacino any given Sunday speech,

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Speaker 1: or we claw with our fingernails and you're ready to

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Speaker 1: How does this translate to anything good for Colorado State

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Speaker 1: in terms of the game with what Jay Norvell had

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Speaker 6: And it's like attacking someone's character almost whereas at the

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Speaker 6: It wasn't a positive response about his personality, right, And again,

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Speaker 6: Instead of just reacting to it happening and getting sw

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Speaker 6: an angry group of buffalos. And that's the point about

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Speaker 6: Now people are betting Colorado hit money handover fist anyways,

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you you talk about reaction to

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Speaker 1: We all watched Texas b Bama last week and Jalen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Texas feasted on inexperience Milrow. He just he looked young.

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Speaker 5: He's been parachuted in from Notre Dame, but not so fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, very similar situation of what happened at Oregon a

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Speaker 6: And when I grade both of these players, I don't

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Speaker 1: But this reeks of Tommy Reese saying, goodness, let me.

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Speaker 5: And that's what the Crimson Tide is looking to do

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Speaker 5: we'll find out a little bit this week, but they

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Speaker 5: should handle business against South Florida. But for the rest

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Speaker 5: of the season, this is a huge experiment that could

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Speaker 5: go horribly wrong. We'll see, we'll.

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Speaker 6: Find out the big issue I see right now, guys,

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Speaker 6: and the quarterback situation obviously is a concern. But when

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Speaker 6: I analyze their offensive line, I see holes and holes

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Speaker 6: in big spots. I mean, their tackle situation is not ideal.

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Speaker 6: So jac Latham is a true freshman and he's played well.

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Speaker 6: His grade's pretty high, but he's a true freshman playing

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Speaker 6: in his third game. The other side, their right tackle,

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Speaker 6: Caden Procter's got one of the lowest pass blocking grades

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Speaker 6: on the team, and their centers even worse. So two

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Speaker 6: out of their five starting offensive linemen are below, like

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Speaker 6: well below the average of where you should be. And

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Speaker 6: then their left tackle, who's performed well is a freshman.

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Speaker 6: So I see three I see left tackle, center, right

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Speaker 6: tackle question marks. At all three spots. The guard positions

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Speaker 6: performed okay, But this is not a team that has

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Speaker 6: that dynamic running back like a Derrick Henry. They need

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Speaker 6: to block well and they need to create holes, and

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Speaker 6: they have not done either of those things yet, and

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Speaker 6: I don't know if.

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Speaker 7: They're going to do them. I would expect that.

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Speaker 6: I would hope they did them well today, even though

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Speaker 6: the middle game the blocking grades were a little bit

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Speaker 6: suspect as well. But you would hope that those positions really,

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Speaker 6: you know, crystallize themselves, because I don't think it matters

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Speaker 6: who you throw back there, Milroe or Buckner.

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Speaker 7: If you can't block, they're gonna be running for their lives.

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Speaker 6: And maybe that's why, maybe that's why Saby wanted to

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Speaker 6: put Millroll back there for the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: He knew the offensive line was a little shaky, especially

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Speaker 6: in that game against Texas, and he knew he was

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Speaker 6: gonna need elite mobility. I think Buckler's got some mobility

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Speaker 6: and he's gonna need it because again, when I look

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Speaker 6: at this Alabama offensive line, that is a concern to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. We have a great cast

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Speaker 1: here today. Because you talk about clearing a path, that

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Speaker 1: would be Rich Ornberger, former Penn State All American. Then

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Speaker 1: you talk about an electric playmaker with the ball in

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Speaker 1: his head hands, that would be Isaac lowenkra who can

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Speaker 1: cut on a dime, who can be shifty, who can

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Speaker 1: be speedy like lightning. And he's got the latest for

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Speaker 1: us right here.

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Speaker 8: And the standard that I aspire to in a circular

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Speaker 8: sort of way, fellas is our own rich Ornberger. Because

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Speaker 8: did you notice just a few moments ago how flawlessly

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Speaker 8: he pronounced lay.

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Speaker 1: Like he's doing the game today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't been just looking in the mirror and

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Speaker 5: saying wela d over and over and over again for

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Speaker 5: a week.

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Speaker 8: I mean, with the work that he's put in, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you're going you almost have to go out of your

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Speaker 8: way to pronounce lay as many times as possible, just

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Speaker 8: to showcase your mastery of that very very unique name.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to some names in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 8: We'll start with the Los Angeles Dodgers Friday night, winning

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Speaker 8: at Seattle six to three, so their magic number is

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Speaker 8: two to clinch their tenth National League West title in

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Speaker 8: eleven years. The Tigers at eleven and two win over

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Speaker 8: the Angels and Anaheim. But after the game, reporters observed

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Speaker 8: that sho he Otani's locker in the Angel Stadium clubhouse

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Speaker 8: has been cleared of nearly all of his personal belongings.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait a minute, he might leave. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: stop way he might leave for not. It's almost as

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Speaker 1: if the Angels should have traded him and gotten something

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Speaker 1: for him when they could have. But I digress, say,

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Speaker 1: we're beyond that now.

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Speaker 3: Fall Hey so has Apparently.

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Speaker 8: Todi's practicing got to put Ounce to ungle away anyway.

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Speaker 8: Show has missed the last eleven games of the oblique injury.

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Speaker 8: The Angels have officially can day. Today, the Arizona Diamondbacks

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Speaker 8: a six to four win over the Cup, so the

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Speaker 8: Diamondbacks and Cincinnati Reds now tied for the final National

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Speaker 8: League wildcard spot. The Rocky scored two in the Bottle

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Speaker 8: of the Night thinning to beat the Giants three to two.

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Speaker 8: The Giants now a game behind the Diamondbacks and Reds

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Speaker 8: for the final NL wildcard spot. The Tampa Bay Rays

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Speaker 8: a seven to one win at Baltimore, so they are

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Speaker 8: tied virtually for first place in the AL East. Finally

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Speaker 8: fellas in college football. Last night, Colorado State head coach

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Speaker 8: Jade Norvel tweeted about his recent critical comments about Colorado

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Speaker 8: head coach Dion Sanders. Norvel tweeted, and I quote, with

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Speaker 8: all the media involved with this game, not one reporter

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Speaker 8: asked me about my comments. I wanted to send a

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Speaker 8: message to our players and how we run our program

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Speaker 8: hashtag ram grit unquote. On that note, I will OUI

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Speaker 8: Anglo lay it back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Ilo. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to

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Speaker 1: kick Off, presented by Bett MGM. I mean, look, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to make it right and he did an awful

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Speaker 1: job even try to do that.

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Speaker 7: Like he needs to just focus on coaching football at

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Speaker 7: this point.

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Speaker 1: Dude, he has made Colorado State the most uncool place

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Speaker 1: to be recruited. It really has. Like I take my

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Speaker 1: sunglasses off in my head off, and nobody asked me

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Speaker 1: what I really meant. I'm trying to set the tone

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Speaker 1: of what this program is all about. If I'm a recruit,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, not interested.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, especially because the recruits you're talking to

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Speaker 6: a generation that's different, like the younger generation is just

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Speaker 6: they're built different.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a time right now where that

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Speaker 5: stuff only works if you're Nick Saban, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. That stuff only works if you've been at

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Speaker 5: the top of this thing for a long time and

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Speaker 5: you're giving or you know, you're Greg Popovich and there's

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Speaker 5: a way to do it, and you're a Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: and there's a way to do it, you know, in

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Speaker 5: the NBA and the NFL respectively, Or you're a Nick

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Speaker 5: Saban and you've got the Crimson Tide way. But if

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Speaker 5: you're Jay Norvel, or if you're any coach who is

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Speaker 5: trying to build the program, that type of stuff, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it can bury you. With the recruiting situation and what

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Speaker 5: Dion does best, and we're talking about an in state rivalry,

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Speaker 5: So if you want a chance at any players coming

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Speaker 5: out of Colorado, what Dion does best is he connects

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Speaker 5: to young people. Because guess who's splashing all over the

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Speaker 5: front page of every sports website. It's not Jay Norvel, well,

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Speaker 5: not in a positive way. In this situation, it's Dion

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Speaker 5: and it's every single week and I don't know, man again,

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Speaker 5: like it or not, it's all changed and that's the

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Speaker 5: way to do it now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can barely get away with it with the

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Speaker 6: hair and the facial It's the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 5: That's the New York Yankees. Yeah, and that's all. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's changed for them too. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in your guys mouths,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, try this. Just try it, Brian, you

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Speaker 1: were right. I don't know, just boy, try it. You know,

565
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Speaker 1: like that coffee, I think those words coming out.

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Speaker 5: Actually, if we could stir up some Hellman's in a

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Speaker 5: cup of black Joe, I'll drink it.

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Speaker 7: No, no, well, what are you referring to.

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Speaker 1: I tried to tell you the Angels had to trade o'tani. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be the organization is trading for

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Speaker 1: You're right, they should.

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Speaker 6: Have, but there is a I remember the take that

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Speaker 6: I had. It was not that the Angels shouldn't trade him,

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Speaker 6: it's that they weren't going to.

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Speaker 7: I thought that they should.

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Speaker 1: Over there.

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Speaker 5: My take was, and we can go back and listen

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Speaker 5: to take. I said, you can't.

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Speaker 7: Pull the tape up.

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Speaker 5: You absolutely can't because you do not want to be

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Speaker 5: the ownership group. You do not want to be the

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Speaker 5: general manager who traded this guy away and then he

583
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Speaker 5: ended up going and having his Hall of Fame career

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Speaker 5: for years and years and years with someone else. Now,

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Speaker 5: if this ends up going the opposite direction, this ends

586
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Speaker 5: up going to the opposite direction where now Otani goes

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Speaker 5: somewhere and he signs for a huge, massive deal and

588
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Speaker 5: he ends up having injuries and issues and it never

589
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Speaker 5: works out for him wherever his next stop is at

590
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Speaker 5: his new destination. Well, then there's going to be a

591
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Speaker 5: lot of revisionist history where people go, well, they absolutely

592
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Speaker 5: should have traded him, because look, you know, even in

593
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Speaker 5: free agency went off there and he was broken and

594
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Speaker 5: he was you know.

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Speaker 1: Spoiled goods.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know, at the time, it felt to

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Speaker 5: me like if you trade this guy and he owns,

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Speaker 5: he ends up going and dominating and has a record

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Speaker 5: breaking career with a different organization, I mean, you'll just

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Speaker 5: get fired on principle if you're the general manager who makes.

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Speaker 1: That, You get fired for not getting anything for the

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Speaker 1: most unique player in baseball history.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna be weird that he cleaned out his locker.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not. He's sending a message. I'm freaking oughty,

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Speaker 1: I think so, but that's not the.

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Speaker 7: And you and you might be right.

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Speaker 6: He might be sending a message, but that was not

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Speaker 6: the message that I expected him to send based off

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Speaker 6: of his feelings. And I know it's hard to kind

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Speaker 6: of gauge because we're hearing a lot of it through

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Speaker 6: the translator and we don't hear director from him, but

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Speaker 6: it sounded like he was kind of all into the

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Speaker 6: team thing and then he just bailed like I would

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Speaker 6: have at least stayed for the rest.

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Speaker 7: Of the season. Is still two weeks away, and you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Keep scoring too. Off the top of my head, remember

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Speaker 1: how you guys had Joe Burrow they might have to amputate.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's got a he's playing. The bigger

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Speaker 1: injury was my guy Jalen Ramsey out until maybe December.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Hang on, Mayan, you were right.

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Speaker 5: Wait, hang on, hang on, I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow for a second because I'll defend that again.

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Speaker 5: Here's the deal. Joe Burrow just went out and had

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Speaker 5: the worst game of his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and wait till what he does against the Ravens

626
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Speaker 1: were banged up like a whole new Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: Now, Joe Burrow too looked like Jeleen Milroe.

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Speaker 6: Oh stop listen, it was a rough.

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Speaker 1: Who has a better chance of playing better in Week two?

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Speaker 1: Is it Jalen Ramsey who's out? Or is it Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow turning things around?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 5: I will say this, he missed a lot of time

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Speaker 5: this offseason and he looked rusty man because if you

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Speaker 5: remember back to his playoff start against the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 5: because a lot of people were defending Joe Burrow and saying, wow,

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Speaker 5: that Cleveland defense. They were absolutely dominating him. Yeah, they

638
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: were getting the rush home. But he got sacked nine

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Speaker 5: times and hurried and pressured a whole lot of other

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Speaker 5: times against Tennessee in the playoffs, and he put the

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Speaker 5: team on his back and won the game. He's faced

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Speaker 5: pressure before.

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Speaker 1: This guy's rusty because of the calf injury. How do

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Speaker 1: you do last year in Week one? Five interceptions? He's

645
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Speaker 1: a slow starter. This isn't all about the calf.

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Speaker 7: Slow start.

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Speaker 6: I think the Dolphins are gonna be okay too. It

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Speaker 6: matters more about two of that. It does about Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 6: They still won the game without him.

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Speaker 1: They won one game, one game. He's out until December.

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Speaker 6: That's all we have to go on, though, So how

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Speaker 6: are you claiming yourself.

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Speaker 1: The victor because I said the more significant injury was

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, which it clearly is because it is. Huh,

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Speaker 1: it's not Joe Burrow, who's playing in his little caffe injury.

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Speaker 5: Wait hang out, So Joe Burrow loses one of the

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Speaker 5: worst performances of his career, the Dolphins win, and you're right,

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, because your guy is playing. My guy

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Speaker 1: is out. Like that's the more significant injury is Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: But we got to move it along. My takes are solid,

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Speaker 1: My picks are trash. My goodness, you might want to

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Speaker 1: Okay, mister Jared Smith, you've got your bifocals on, You've

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Speaker 1: got your pencil out making alterations, studying pie charts and

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Speaker 1: bar graphs. What have you come up with for us?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is this is the coat you guys. You know,

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Speaker 6: if you're listening on the radio, you can't see. But

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Speaker 6: I've got the shades on. Oh wow, yeah, I mean listen.

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Speaker 6: I haven't won one of these in the big.

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Speaker 7: Version of it yet.

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Speaker 6: So let's try to have a little fun and see

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Speaker 6: if maybe channeling my inner coach prime could get us

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Speaker 6: across finish line.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna back they look a little more affordable than Coach.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got him at Target.

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Speaker 6: Buffalo on the Actually no, I got him at Costco

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Speaker 6: but basically the same thing. Buffalo on the money line

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Speaker 6: against Liberty. So Liberty's played two cupcakes. They won by

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Speaker 6: ten over Bowling Green. They beat New Mexico by seventeen,

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Speaker 6: so they're two and zero.

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Speaker 7: Buffalo desperate at oh and two.

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Speaker 6: I thought they competed well against Wisconsin, but they did

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Speaker 6: not play well last week.

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Speaker 7: They lost to Fordham at home. Yikes.

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Speaker 6: I think we're gonna see a much better defensive effort

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Speaker 6: from Buffalo today, and I like their quarterback col Snyder

705
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Speaker 6: has got a really high adjusted accuracy rate.

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Speaker 7: Liberties defense hasn't been great.

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Speaker 6: I think Buffalo at home gets off to a good

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Speaker 6: start and gets their first win.

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Speaker 7: We'll also take Bazoo.

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Speaker 6: This is a very interesting old rivalry game from the

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Speaker 6: Big eight.

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Speaker 7: K State Cook last year in Manhattan.

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Speaker 6: Now we get the home return matchup in Columbia and listen,

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Speaker 6: I think, Brady Cook, you gotta let this kid throw

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Speaker 6: only twenty two passes last week against Middle Now they

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Speaker 6: won the game, barely didn't cover the spread. I think

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Speaker 6: Miszoo is gonna get off to a little bit of

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Speaker 6: a faster start today at home. WILL take him at

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Speaker 6: home on the money line against k State and Florida.

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Speaker 7: How about this game.

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Speaker 6: I know we're gonna talk about it a bit, so

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get too much of the handicap.

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Speaker 6: But the Gators have owned this series in the swamp.

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Speaker 6: Tennessee hasn't won in Gainesville since three So I will

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Speaker 6: take Florida on the money line as well at home

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Speaker 6: against Tennessee. So all home doggies today, Buffalo, Miszoo, Florida.

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Speaker 6: If you pile it all together, it's sixteen to one

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Speaker 6: over at bet MGM.

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Speaker 7: Nice little sprinkle to start your day.

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Speaker 6: You get three games, all spaced out nice and even

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Speaker 6: throughout the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jared, one thing that's really refreshing When I

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Speaker 1: hear a lot of handicapping going on, I hear, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is just what happened. So I'm expecting it to continue,

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Speaker 1: rins and repeat. What do you look for in terms

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Speaker 1: of things changing like last week's result is going to

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Speaker 1: be different this week? What do you look for?

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Speaker 7: Well, college football is incredibly volatile.

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Speaker 6: I think the letdown and the emotions of the game

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Speaker 6: play more of a factor in college than they do

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Speaker 6: in the NFL. And I think when you're dealing with numbers,

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Speaker 6: for example, the Kansas State Missouri game, everyone is back

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Speaker 6: in case State. They listen, Case States look good, they're

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Speaker 6: too and zero against the spread, but the number continues

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Speaker 6: to move against the Wildcats. So even though the public

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Speaker 6: really likes kse State today, the market is telling us

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Speaker 6: that Missouri might be a little bit undervalued after they've

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Speaker 6: looked let's call it shaky through their first two games,

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Speaker 6: where Kansas State's look great. So a lot of times

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Speaker 6: I let the market kind of dictate where my action's going.

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Speaker 6: Because we talked to Crack about this on Sundays.

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Speaker 7: He is the.

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Speaker 6: One and his groups and other groups are the ones

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Speaker 6: that are really the insiders, and their knowledge helps me

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Speaker 6: kind of see where maybe those undervalued sides are. With

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Speaker 6: the public all lining up to back the team that's

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Speaker 6: great and they're winning all these games, but really the

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Speaker 6: market's moving towards that undervalued, perhaps underdog in this case.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sixteen to one. I hope this is a sixteen

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Speaker 1: to one.

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Speaker 7: Come on, we're getting one of these this year. We're

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Speaker 7: getting one, all right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up next there isn't one game featuring two ranked teams,

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Speaker 1: but the top matchup still pretty tasty. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: Oh what's going on? Everybody? Welcome in here, Week three

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Speaker 1: College football action. We are less than two hours away

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Speaker 1: from kickoff. Here sad news. We are less than one

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Speaker 1: hour away from Rich Ornberger's dismissal right here as he

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Speaker 1: boards a bus to call San Diego State at Oregon State.

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Speaker 1: Rich is a former football player, he's a current broadcaster,

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Speaker 1: and he's also currently an engineer. As you're mcgivering your

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Speaker 1: way through this whole thing, very well done by you, Rich.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, you gotta be adaptive, especially as an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you go in at halftime and you're

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Speaker 5: seeing some exotic blitzes and some formations and personnel groups

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Speaker 5: you weren't seeing on film defensively, So you gotta you

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Speaker 5: gotta find uh, you gotta find a way to adjust.

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Speaker 5: And I think we made the appropriate halftime adjustments here. So, uh,

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Speaker 5: we're good. We're good. We're gonna, you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: go out there and we're gonna give it one hundred

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Speaker 5: and ten percent effort. We're gonna we're gonna let the

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Speaker 5: chips fall where they may. I mean, really, that's what

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Speaker 5: comes down to.

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Speaker 1: I think you got everything in there for Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got all the cliches in there.

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Speaker 5: Man, just thank you.

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Speaker 1: But I've covered right there. All right, let's dive into.

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Speaker 3: This oh SCC matchup of the day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we've got Tennessee at Florida. So Tennessee ranked

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Speaker 1: number eleven. It's crazy this week, guys, we don't have

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Speaker 1: one game featuring two ranked teams. Not one. Next week

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Speaker 1: we'll get Ohio State Notre Dame. Right, you get Colorado Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Couple of tasty matchups not the case this week, but

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Speaker 1: still Tennessee at Florida very interesting matchup. I got my

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Speaker 1: eye as I'm sure, you guys do too. On Joe Milton,

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee quarterback, right, yep, Is this a crossroads game

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Speaker 1: for him where he looks a lot sharper, he goes

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Speaker 1: to the swamp follows get a big win onward with Milton?

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Speaker 1: Or is it a stinker? Is this a hard left

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Speaker 1: turn where this is a Jalen Milroe type situation where

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Speaker 1: it's a clunker, it's a loss. And then what I

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Speaker 1: could see going either way for Joe Milton today, but

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Speaker 1: all eyes on him, that is for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you look at his two opening performances, shaky

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Speaker 5: is the right word, Brian, because this offense doesn't look

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Speaker 5: nearly as efficient as it did a year ago. And

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Speaker 5: it comes down to Milton, and really it comes down

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Speaker 5: to play sequencing from this offense finding what works for

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Speaker 5: him because they need to find rhythm offensively with him

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Speaker 5: at quarterback. They have not played against particularly talented defenses

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Speaker 5: to open this season. He's looked very I don't want

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Speaker 5: to say average, but say good to average somewhere in

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Speaker 5: that lane. When he's going to get to Florida Gators

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Speaker 5: defense right now, who's ranked near the top twenty five

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Speaker 5: of defenses overall in this country, you have to start

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Speaker 5: to say to yourself, well, this is where the rubber

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Speaker 5: meets the road. This is where we find out a

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Speaker 5: lot about him, and he needs to have a big game,

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Speaker 5: specifically for this team to have a successful season, so

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Speaker 5: a lot comes down on his shoulders. Unfortunately. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's tough to replace a great season by a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: but this happens so often in college, where you see

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Speaker 5: a program come out of nowhere and then they disappear again.

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Speaker 5: Let's see if he can keep this thing going and

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Speaker 5: build on some of his past performances and get better,

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Speaker 5: because he's kind of been i don't know, middling the

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Speaker 5: past two games, these first two out of the box.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've noticed the same. I think, you know, the

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Speaker 6: nerd numbers agree with that assessment too. I think the

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Speaker 6: biggest part of this game that's fascinating is how the

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Speaker 6: balls kind of handle in their hunted role. As Rich

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Speaker 6: alluded to, this is a we don't see Tennessee favored

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Speaker 6: by this much. At Florida ever, it's never happened. They

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Speaker 6: haven't won there again in twenty years. This is not

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Speaker 6: a place where they historically perform well.

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Speaker 7: And I know this is a different team.

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Speaker 6: You can't compare this year's team the last year's team

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Speaker 6: even or years prior when they would go in there

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Speaker 6: and kind of get knocked around by this Florida team.

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Speaker 6: The Gators were a little feisty on defense in that

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Speaker 6: game against Utah. It's tough to really read much from

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Speaker 6: their game last week against McNee State, but the defensive

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Speaker 6: numbers for them, they held Utah, and I know they

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Speaker 6: didn't have came rising, so I don't want to read

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Speaker 6: too much into that either, but it's really the only

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Speaker 6: actual data point we have. It was on the road,

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Speaker 6: and it was against what I would call a pretty.

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Speaker 7: Good rushing offense.

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Speaker 6: Held them to a thirty five percent success rate, So

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Speaker 6: I think maybe Florida's defense could hold up a little

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Speaker 6: bit better than maybe some of the average people would

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Speaker 6: would say examining that team. I think the other side

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Speaker 6: is really fascinating because Florida's rushing game I think can

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Speaker 6: have some success here and Montreal Johnson especially went for

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Speaker 6: one nineteen and two touchdowns last week because Tennessee's defense

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Speaker 6: can be had and I think the physicality of this

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Speaker 6: game is going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 7: I know Florida's going to want to get physical. We'll

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Speaker 7: see if.

865
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Speaker 6: Tennessee can match that physicality. But Brian, back to the

866
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 6: original point, I'm not fully surprised. I mean, nobody should

867
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 6: be surprised that Tennessee's taking a step back offensively. They

868
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: lost their top four offensive players in the NFL dres

869
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 6: after the top seventy four picks. You know, two receivers,

870
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 6: a quarterback, and an offensive tackle, so it's no surprise

871
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 6: that they've taken a step back.

872
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a.

873
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Lot of talent right there. Man in the topic Roderick

874
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Jones tenth overall, right before you get to all the

875
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: skill guys, right there, I look at this too. Big

876
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: plays something to keep your eye on in this game.

877
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: Florida hasn't generated many big blades at all so far

878
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: this season. Tennessee again, Joe Milton has an absolute cannon

879
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: for an arm. That guy just flicks it and it

880
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: goes seventy yards. That is not overstating anything. He literally

881
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: has that type of talent. But only two completions of

882
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: more than twenty yards so far this season. So he

883
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: can flick it, but we don't know where it's gonna

884
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: end up. To be fair in the first game against Virginia,

885
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: threw a nice deep ball, receiver just dropped it. So

886
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I want to keep my eye on the big plays

887
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: because we all know what this means in a game

888
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: like this in the swamp. If Tennessee is able to

889
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: hit a couple of big plays, that can really start

890
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: quieting the crowd down. If Florida is able to hit

891
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: a couple of big plays. Man, you talk about a

892
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: rabbit atmosphere to begin with, It's just gonna get more rabbit.

893
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna get rabbit. Err Rich, I'm making stuff up,

894
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: but you know that's the way it goes. So keep

895
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: your eye on the big blaze today.

896
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt, And keep your eye on big

897
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: plays coming out of the Florida Gators running game, because

898
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: you know they really haven't featured that that was a

899
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: preseason expectation. They have a pretty elite unit back there,

900
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: and if they can get things going against a relatively

901
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 5: porous Tennessee run defense, then I think you could see

902
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 5: explosive runs. You know, some of those plays that you're

903
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: talking about of fifteen or twenty yards or more can

904
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: come when that matchup occurs. This Florida Gators run offense

905
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 5: against this rushing defense of the Tennessee volunteers, because they

906
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: really haven't stopped anyone yet.

907
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Tennessee d To Bryant's point too, I

908
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 6: think that's an interesting kind of pork with their offense

909
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 6: so far this year. When I was looking through their

910
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 6: pass catchers, their three highest graded pass catchers, two of

911
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 6: them are running backs, the other one a tight end.

912
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 6: So they have not done a good job of getting

913
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: the receivers involved. And on the other side, the receivers

914
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: have not done a good job of making plays when

915
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 6: they're there. And this is a tout Listen, they played

916
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 6: Virginia at home and then Austin Pe. Now you're going

917
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 6: to the swamp. This is a different animal entirely. Again,

918
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 6: they haven't won there in twenty years, and they don't

919
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: cover either, and they've been big dogs in big spots

920
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: because remember it's only been until very recently this resurgence.

921
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 6: But Tennessee had a stretch there in the late twenty ten's,

922
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 6: early twenty twenties there where they were not very good,

923
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 6: and they were twenty thirty point dogs in these games.

924
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 6: I think when you look at what Florida is at

925
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 6: their core, I do not, just like I don't fully

926
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: trust Joe Milton, I don't fully trust Grant Martz either,

927
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 6: But I think I trust Billion Apier, and I think

928
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 6: they learned something about their team in that game against

929
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 6: Utah because they competed.

930
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 7: In that game, and it was ugly. It was an

931
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 7: ugly game.

932
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 6: It was a week zero, it was an altitude, it

933
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 6: was you know, started quarterback was out for the other team.

934
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 6: It was Graham Mercy's first start in Florida. It was

935
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 6: an ugly game. But this is not going to I

936
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 6: don't think this game is going to be as difficult

937
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 6: for Florida to generate offense. Rich mentioned it, and Johnson's

938
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 6: one guy and Etn's the other guy in that backfield

939
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 6: that I think can create plays. And if Tennessee does

940
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 6: not defend that that offense that's so good and runs

941
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: all these plays per game and could be so high,

942
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 6: o Kane's gonna be sitting on the sidelines for most

943
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: of the game. And I think that's a big advantage

944
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: for Florida.

945
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, let's stick with the SEC here real fast,

946
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: because there's another matchup South Carolina at number one Georgia.

947
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: So the Dog's favored by twenty seven and a half,

948
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: and I'm curious in the way it plays out for

949
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: South Carolina because we saw them not be able to

950
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: protect their quarterback Spencer Rattler in the opener against North Carolina.

951
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: They gave up nine sacks to North Carolina, who doesn't

952
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: have half the reputation defensively as Georgia does. So I

953
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: want to see if they can protect Spencer Rattler any

954
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: better today it's a three thirty eastern kick time because

955
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: that's step one and having a chance whatsoever. You think

956
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: about South Carolina being giant killers at the end of

957
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: last season, two huge wins against Tennessee and Clemson that

958
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: hardly anybody saw coming. So this is a big giant

959
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: killer spot. But if you can't protect Rattler, it's not play,

960
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: not getting off the ground. If that's the case.

961
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Look, I mean the Bulldogs really haven't been

962
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: chouned so far with this two and zero star, winning

963
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: their first two games by combined score of ninety three

964
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 5: to ten. Okay, the game Cocks are dangerous here. They are.

965
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 5: They're capable of upsetting, like you said majorly twice last

966
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 5: year against Clemson and Tennessee, we'll see what they can

967
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 5: do against Georgia. Week three is a tricky week, right

968
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: because this is when, like we were just talking about

969
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: with with uh, with the Gators, like the Rubbers starting

970
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: to meet the road, with the volunteers, the Rubbers starting

971
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: to meet the road, like we really need.

972
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: To see who you are as players.

973
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 5: We really need to start to see what the identity

974
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: is going to be offensively and defensively. It's difficult to

975
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: do when you play against doormat teams to start your

976
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 5: season because you haven't been challenged since training camp. I mean,

977
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 5: the best team the Bulldogs have faced so far this

978
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: season is the Bulldogs at practice. So man, oh man,

979
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 5: this is I'm not I'm not calling an upset hands

980
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 5: off from from any sort of moneyline dog back here,

981
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: but I'm telling you right now, we've got an interesting

982
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: one here. We really know.

983
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: I don't know exact like cats call for the upset there.

984
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just saying I have a socket back.

985
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not saying. I'm not saying that the

986
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 5: upset has kicked the door in, but it's but it

987
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 5: may be in the hall. I'm just it's somehow Yeah.

988
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 6: All right, so when I looked at this game, it's

989
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 6: really tough to great Georgia. I think it's almost impossible, frankly,

990
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 6: to great Georgia. But from a motivational standpoint, I understand

991
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 6: why they have looked like zombies in their first two games,

992
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 6: because if you're Georgia and you look at your schedule

993
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: and you see mostly zombies on it for most of

994
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 6: the season, then this game kind of sticks out to

995
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 6: me though, because the one thing I heard from Kirby

996
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 6: Smart in his press conference this week, and he made

997
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: it a point to mention this the last time Georgia

998
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: lost the game at home was against South Carolina in

999
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen. He made it a point to mention that,

1000
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 6: so I would not be surprised if after two absolute

1001
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: sleepwalk performances from the Bulldogs where they didn't run for

1002
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 6: hundred yards against ball State, we now see a light

1003
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 6: switch turn on.

1004
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 7: Now, that light switch could be harder to turn on,

1005
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 7: and they.

1006
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 6: Don't have the guy calling the plays and the guy

1007
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 6: throwing the passes like they did last year. I think

1008
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 6: the weapons around him are about the same. Defensively about

1009
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 6: the same. We'll see if the quarterback can kind of

1010
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 6: play up to that expectation.

1011
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 7: Carson backs so far again hasn't been tested.

1012
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 6: On the other side, Spencer Ratlers actually looked pretty good.

1013
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 6: He's been pressured on almost every single one of his dropbacks.

1014
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 6: Not quite that much, only about forty percent, but zero

1015
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 6: turnover worthy plays and that's because he's getting the ball

1016
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 6: out really fast two and a half seconds time to throw.

1017
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 6: Ray Bays eight average up the target super low. So

1018
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 6: it's all dink and dunk for South Carolina. What can

1019
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 6: they do today against Georgia's defense? No running game, You

1020
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 6: would think you can't run it on Georgia and you're

1021
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 6: dinking and dunking it down the field. That sounds like

1022
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 6: a really tough method to score against the Bulldog. I

1023
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 6: wouldn't be shocked again if we see a explosion from

1024
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 6: the Bulldogs a little more emotion today, perhaps in their

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 6: SEC opener.

1026
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because Kirby Smart is like a

1027
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of coaches where they might have the talent advantage,

1028
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: but they're just preaching to their team guys, please don't

1029
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: let your guard down. Yeah, because literally, think about a boxer.

1030
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: If a boxer is like, I'm just better than my

1031
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: opponent and he starts to drop his hands, he's gonna

1032
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: get punched in the face. I mean unlessiy's Floyd Mayweather,

1033
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what Georgia is guarding against here

1034
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: is that letdown and Kirby smart is it's funny you

1035
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: brought that up, Jared where it's like, hey, guys, we

1036
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: lost to this team years ago, so it can happen.

1037
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: He's trying to get them to like get out of

1038
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: it right. You can lose. You're not bulletproof here, and

1039
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: that's the battle because a lot of times we just

1040
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: think and the players think so too. They think talent

1041
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,520
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1042
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: many did they score against North Carolina seventeen and gave

1043
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: up nine sacks? I think we're good And Kirby's like, what, no, guys,

1044
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,600
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1045
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Speaker 1: other prizes like entry to the BETMGM party and food

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Speaker 1: and beverage credits there. It is okay, So we are

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Speaker 1: an hour and thirty five minutes away from kickoff. We

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Speaker 1: are thirty five minutes away from losing Rich Hornberger to

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Speaker 1: his play by play duties here, so we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: the most of it. Let's dive into this right now.

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Speaker 3: Follow the money, real good money, all right.

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Speaker 1: We're following the money with Seamus McGee, team lead of

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Speaker 1: sports Trading at BEDMGM. Good morning to you, Seamus. You

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Speaker 1: know these numbers are staggering, with Colorado twice as much

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Speaker 1: money on Colorado to cover than any other college football team,

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Speaker 1: who's next in line? If Colorado is twice as much

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Speaker 1: on that, like who's the next team where people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we think this team is going to cover today.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for having me back. From the looks

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Speaker 4: of it, right now, I'm looking at this Penn State

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Speaker 4: Illinois game. It's a lot of money coming in on

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Speaker 4: this game, and a lot of money coming in on

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Speaker 4: the Ndney Liones. We actually have some sharp play on

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Speaker 4: Illinois earlier in the week, pushing this to the Juice

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Speaker 4: fourteen and a half we have now, but definitely a

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Speaker 4: lot of interest on Penn State.

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Speaker 6: Another game I saw popping today was this Tennessee Florida game.

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Speaker 6: It seems like a lot of people are are interested

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Speaker 6: in backing the Balls as a road favorite. I am

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Speaker 6: not one of those people, Shamus, but what are you

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Speaker 6: seeing with Tennessee and Florida today in.

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Speaker 4: The swamp Florida looks like one of the sharper sides

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Speaker 4: on the board. From what we've seen. We've had this

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Speaker 4: open at Tennessee minus seven. It's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: you know, action from our Tennessee players on the balls.

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Speaker 4: But it's a lot of sharp money has coming on

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Speaker 4: the Gators for today.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so I followed your advice last week, right,

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Speaker 5: we got the We got the ball State forty two

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Speaker 5: and a half dogs against the Georgia Bulldogs. They got

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Speaker 5: whooped by forty two points. But that hook saved me

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Speaker 5: and that was my only rapid fire win. I don't

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Speaker 5: want your pick yet. I want to save the suspense

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Speaker 5: for later on. But I am definitely gonna ask for

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Speaker 5: the Shamus special today as well, because that was represented

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Speaker 5: my only win last week. But but you said early

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Speaker 5: in the week, a lot of sharp money coming down

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Speaker 5: Illinois Sharper side on Florida. Any weight week surge from

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Speaker 5: the Sharps is there is there a game that they're

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Speaker 5: starting to pile on late as we're approaching kickoff.

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Speaker 4: Here, there's a couple we can look at here. I

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Speaker 4: mean yesterday or Thursday, this Florida State BC line was

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Speaker 4: really jumping all over the place. It was sitting there

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Speaker 4: around twenty eight, twenty eight and a half. Florida State

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Speaker 4: jumped all the way to twenty four and a half

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Speaker 4: at briefly, then kind of settle on like around twenty five.

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Speaker 4: A lot of injuries the Florida State's bangs up on

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Speaker 4: the O line. They have a starting safety out. But

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Speaker 4: now we're starting to see some sharp money come back

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Speaker 4: in on Florida State. We're gonna be rooting for BC.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be one of our bigger needs of that

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Speaker 4: noon slate. But this line seems to be really kind

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Speaker 4: of jumping all over the place, and Miszoo has been

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Speaker 4: some attached sharp the past couple of days, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the money line or the spread. So we're looking at

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Speaker 4: around a three and a half and be a juice

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Speaker 4: flat four Missouri right now against Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: He's Seamous McGee joining us here on countdown to kick off.

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Speaker 1: You know, Seamus, where do you stand on closing line value?

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Speaker 1: Because let's take Florida for instance. Earlier in the week,

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Speaker 1: you could have got him at plus seven and a half,

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Speaker 1: could have got him at plus six and a half.

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Speaker 1: It's now plus five and a half, and some people

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00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: would say, oh, well, hey man, the value is not

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Speaker 1: where it once was. You could have got him at

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Speaker 1: a better number. If you still like Florida plus five

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Speaker 1: and a half, shouldn't you bet him? Where do you

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Speaker 1: stand on CLV?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's Scott it's us. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know I was walking to a CLV question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, answer, I love it. It's getting the weeds the

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Speaker 6: gambling talk shame has come on.

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Speaker 4: I mean, from the point of view of the book maker,

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Speaker 4: I think it has a lot of value for us

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Speaker 4: when analyzing customers and who's the sharper guys who should

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00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: we move off of, because it's from our point of view,

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Speaker 4: it seems to be a long term success indicator. I

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Speaker 4: know there's some people who it's all about bet timing.

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Speaker 4: When are you putting the bet down? Are you betting

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Speaker 4: it on? Are you betting openers and getting CLV? Or

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Speaker 4: are you betting you know, a day out and getting CLV.

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Speaker 4: It's there's a bunch of ways you can look at,

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Speaker 4: and I still think it holds some value. I like,

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Speaker 4: I'd certainly like to bet a team at plus nine

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Speaker 4: and a half to close it a touchdown. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I think a lot of it for me

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Speaker 4: comes down to when are you making the bet? Are

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Speaker 4: you are you piggybacking off of a syndicate play? Are

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Speaker 4: you is this your own handicapping?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of that goes into whether how

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Speaker 4: you judge your own CLV.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think for me, I think it's more I'm happy

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Speaker 6: when I make a solid wager and the CLV works

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Speaker 6: in my favor. For example, when I make a bet

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Speaker 6: on a Monday and I'm going to do the show

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Speaker 6: on Saturday and it's moved a point or two, I

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Speaker 6: feel good about that bet and I feel like I

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Speaker 6: made a good bet. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: it's a results driven business, and I've seen this all

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Speaker 6: the time where it's CLV three or four points in

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Speaker 6: one direction, at doesn't matter, line still goes the other way.

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Speaker 6: How do I think Alabama bounce is back today? I

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Speaker 6: know we've seen him move a little bit towards the

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Speaker 6: Crimson tide in the market, but you don't get Nick

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Speaker 6: saban Off a loss very often, and then you get

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Speaker 6: the gigantic spread but also new quarterback situation today.

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Speaker 7: How's the book quantifying that, Shamus?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sharp's pushed this to thirty three and a

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Speaker 4: half over sitting now. I'm honestly a little surprised that

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Speaker 4: A little actually we've taken on the game so far,

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Speaker 4: but I mean it's still mostly the Alabama money coming in.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't a particular, big fan of Tyler Buckner last

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Speaker 4: year at Notre Dame, so we'll see maybe new offense.

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Speaker 4: He's still got Tommy Reese down there. Maybe he can

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Speaker 4: make it happen down there. But it's I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: the drop off between Buckner and Milroe. I think he's

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Speaker 4: probably better than Bucket because he's been in college for longer.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll see. They'll probably gonna end up meeting

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Speaker 4: South Florida on our side.

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Speaker 5: All right, Seamus, listen, I'm eager. I'm anxious. I'm only

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Speaker 5: working two hours today on this show before I'm running along,

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01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 5: and I have to call the San Diego State Oregon

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Speaker 5: State game here in Corvallis, Oregon. I'm talking to you

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Speaker 5: from a hotel room, but I need your help. My

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Speaker 5: rapid fire picks were absolutely trash last week, except for yours.

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Speaker 5: The sham is special. So what is it? What's the game?

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Speaker 5: What's the side? What's the total you're looking at? I

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Speaker 5: need your help.

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Speaker 1: Steer them wrong.

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Speaker 4: A lot of pressure this week.

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Speaker 6: I gets no. Actually it's okay if you lose because

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Speaker 6: it helps us in this day. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 6: like a consortium now between Rich and Shamus if their

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Speaker 6: picks do well for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, a curve.

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Speaker 5: Shame is Yeah, you're it's a win win for you.

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Speaker 7: You will make two.

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Speaker 5: Thirds of the show very happy if you lose, but

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Speaker 5: you'll make one pretty large.

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Speaker 6: Punishment if if you lose the competition though, right.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, we got on the line. Well, we got

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Speaker 5: on the line, Seamus. If I if I win or

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Speaker 5: at least place lower than third place in rapid Fire,

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Speaker 5: I don't have to drink coffee with mayonnaise in it.

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 5: So if you could just go ahead and go one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent for the year, that'd be great.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no problem, Yeah, Okay. So I mean, I

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Speaker 4: you guys know how much I love my new Mexico

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Speaker 4: State Aggies coach Jerry Kill. I was really eyeing that game,

1233
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Speaker 4: but I'm just I'm not feeling one hundred percent about it.

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Speaker 4: I was really thinking about Iowa State minus two and

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Speaker 4: a half against Ohio, but I think I'm staying away there.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the Liberty Flames traveling up to

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Liberty minus three for me.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And I'm on the other side of that one in

1240
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 6: the Parla, and I bet I bet Buffalo too.

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 7: I got three and a half.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

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01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 6: But I'm not giving that out for rapid fire. That

1244
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 6: was just in the parlay platter.

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Speaker 5: So I'm taking the road dogs at Buffalo.

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01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 7: No road road favorite Liberty.

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01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah. And by the way, the Ladies defense.

1248
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 5: I was looking at this Liberty defense. They're a turnover

1249
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 5: machine right now. They are just feasting on opposing offenses.

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Speaker 5: I love the pick seamus. I love the pick.

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Speaker 1: Seamus. Before you go here, real fast, not one game

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 1: featuring two ranked teams. So you look at the top

1253
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: ten teams. These are some inflated point spreads. You look

1254
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: at five of the top six teams in action today

1255
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: at least favored by twenty four points. Like those are

1256
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: heavy point spreads. You lean in one way or the

1257
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: other with these point spreads that are that inflated.

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 4: I mean, looking at the board myself, I wasn't in

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Speaker 4: love with what I was looking at this week. I think,

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Speaker 4: I mean still going to watch all these games, might

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: have some action on them, but yeah, it's kind of

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 4: just the way college football's going, I guess right now

1263
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 4: where it's like a lot of teams. Of course, nil

1264
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 4: is helping out a lot of schools. But yeah, a

1265
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Speaker 4: lot of these teams are the top that you know,

1266
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: there's starting to be a big gulf in talent like

1267
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 4: South Carolina. A lot of people really like them coming

1268
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: in because the way they finished. They had the big

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Speaker 4: win over Tennesseeed end of the year. But you know

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Speaker 4: they're catching almost four touchdowns going into Aspens this week.

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01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, man, we hope that your pick is wrong

1273
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: just because definitely ruining things here. We always appreciate you

1274
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: popping on. Seamus enjoyed the games today, Man, We'll catch

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: you soon.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Guys, have a good one, all right, you too. There

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Speaker 1: is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading at Bett MGM.

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Speaker 1: Sharp guy. Also another sharp guy, Isaac Lohen. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm gonna do rich follows Seamus. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: follow Isaac's advice. Isaac, can you give me a lock

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Speaker 1: today along with your update?

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Speaker 8: A lot today is the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim,

1284
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 8: Orange County, California, United States, Planet Earth Solar System Alpha Centuri.

1285
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 8: I could probably keep going from there, but you get

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 8: the message. Uh, will have an explanation of why show hey,

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Speaker 8: Otani's locker was cleared out last night that will confuse

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Speaker 8: us even more. This happened after the Tigers beat the

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Speaker 8: Angels eleven to two.

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Speaker 1: Friday night.

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Speaker 8: Reporters observe that Otani's locker in the Angel Stadium home

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Speaker 8: clubhouse has been cleared of nearly all of his personal belongings.

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Speaker 8: Otani has missed the last eleven games with an oblique

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Speaker 8: injury and has been officially considered day today. A footnote

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Speaker 8: for those of you on social media, there's a video

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Speaker 8: clip circulating claiming that Otani was spotted leaving town at

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Speaker 8: the airport. That is an old video of Otani at

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Speaker 8: an airport, because workers at airports in the United States

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Speaker 8: I've been to.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 8: Dodgers quitting at Seattle six to three, their magic number

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Speaker 8: is two to clinch the NL West for the tenth

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Speaker 8: time at eleven years. Davidbacks over the cub six to four,

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Speaker 8: so Arizona and Cincinnati tied for the final NL wildcard spot.

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Speaker 8: Rocky scored two in the bottle of the Night to

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Speaker 8: beat the Giants three to two. San Francisco now a

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Speaker 8: game behind Diamondbacks and Reds for the final NL wildcard spot.

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Speaker 8: Tampa Bay is seven to one victory at Baltimore, so

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Speaker 8: the Raisin Orioles now at a virtual tie for first

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Speaker 8: place in the American League East. Finally, in college football,

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Speaker 8: last night, Colorado State head coach Jay Norvell tweeted about

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Speaker 8: his recent critical comments about Colorado head coach Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 8: Norvell tweeted, quote, with all the media involved with this game,

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Speaker 8: not one reporter asked me about my comments. I wanted

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Speaker 8: to send a message to our players and how we

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Speaker 8: run our program hashtag ram grit unquote. Now for reasonable

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Speaker 8: and realistic perspective, let's visit the comments section underneath Norvelle's tweet,

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Speaker 8: shall we Mason responding ninety three to ten Today you'll

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Speaker 8: be in the portal, Gucci posting too late, coach buffs

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Speaker 8: by a billion, And finally Jamal commenting and I quote,

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Speaker 8: my mom taught me not to write checks that my

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Speaker 8: players have to cash unquote. Shout out to Jamal's mom,

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Speaker 8: Back to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I LO it is Fox Sports Radios Campdown to Kickoff,

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Speaker 1: new one. I don't know about the hashtag guys, hashtag

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Speaker 1: ram grit, I mean, yeah, that sort of just taps

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Speaker 1: off a very regrettable stance about trying to clarify his

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Speaker 1: initial stupid statement. This whole thing is a disaster. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look even worse when they get blown out tonight.

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Speaker 6: Allos, we're gonna get destroyed tonight because of these statements.

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Speaker 5: The worst part about all this is, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: that feels like the inevitable situation in the history of

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Speaker 5: college football is, you know, the the buffs beating up

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Speaker 5: on the rams today. But outside of that, I do

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Speaker 5: agree with one of the comments that was made by

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Speaker 5: one of the tweeters or the ex posters, whatever we're

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Speaker 5: calling them right now. I look at it this way.

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Speaker 5: A head coach's job, and a head coach wears many hats.

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Speaker 5: I realize they speak to the media, so they're kind

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Speaker 5: of a politician and they're the face of the organization

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Speaker 5: and they're kind of a CEO or an administrator. But

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Speaker 5: also one of your chief jobs is to put your

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Speaker 5: players in the best position to win. And do we

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Speaker 5: really feel like this helped his players?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just gives a little bit more bolton board

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Speaker 5: material for coach Prime. And honestly, college football, there's not

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Speaker 5: much decorum or sportsmanship when it comes to running up

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Speaker 5: the scoreboard because everybody wants to run up the scoreboard.

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Speaker 5: This is going to be in a embarrassing loss for

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Speaker 5: Colorado State if Coach Prime can just keep his foot

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Speaker 5: down on the gas pedal and he's gotten all the

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Speaker 5: fuel poured on the fire to do that.

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Speaker 6: Penn State did this two weeks ago against West Virginia

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Speaker 6: and there was no pre amble like we saw this week.

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Speaker 6: They with a backup quarterback, said we're covering the spread,

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Speaker 6: and they drove down the field in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 6: and they covered the spread. First of all, these coaches

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Speaker 6: know the spread, and if you don't think they know

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Speaker 6: the spread, you're crazy because all their boosters bet the game.

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Speaker 7: And guess who funds the.

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Speaker 6: Nil the boosters. So it is in the coach's best.

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Speaker 6: And I know that sounds like a crazy statement to make.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're in cahoots, but trust me, the

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Speaker 6: coaches know the number and they are going to do

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Speaker 6: everything possible to put their team in the best situation

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Speaker 6: to win and score more points or prevent the other

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Speaker 6: team from scoring. And what Jane Norvel did accomplish none

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Speaker 6: of those things him. And that's the part about this.

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Speaker 6: We talked about this off the top of the show,

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Speaker 6: and it's kind of the same view of it now

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Speaker 6: that I've heard your guys' thoughts and I've had a

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Speaker 6: chance to die. Every time a coach goes in front

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Speaker 6: of the camera these days, does a radio show whatever.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, it is tactical and every word out

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Speaker 6: of their mouth is strategic, and if it's not, then

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Speaker 6: it tells me how they're buttoned up as a program.

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Speaker 6: Because when you go and you watch a Bill Belichick interview,

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Speaker 6: when you go and you watch a Nick Saban interview,

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Speaker 6: you could see.

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Speaker 7: The gears turning in his head.

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Speaker 6: If I say this, it leads to this, If I

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Speaker 6: do this, it leads to that these the best coaches

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Speaker 6: are one to ten, one.

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Speaker 7: Hundred moves ahead.

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Speaker 6: Jane Norvel was ten moves behind with this thing because

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Speaker 6: he said something and then realized after the fact, up,

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Speaker 6: that's gonna hurt my team on Saturday, and now he's

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Speaker 6: trying to fix it. It's two way cats out of

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Speaker 6: the bag, and I think unfortunately for Colorado State, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a rough Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got Penn State All American Rich Orenberger

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Speaker 1: not wearing the tight black T shirt or midnight blue

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Speaker 1: T shirt today. He's going white sharp, going white like

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Speaker 1: business casual over there.

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Speaker 5: It's it's road game, Rich. I'm sorry, you know it's

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Speaker 5: this trip. Actually I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. It's road

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Speaker 5: game Rich.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian

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Speaker 1: No coming up next, richest picks. We only have about

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Speaker 1: ten more minutes with Rich, so he's got to get

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Speaker 1: his picks in. He's gonna be calling the San Diego State,

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Speaker 1: Oregon State games. Got to hit the busses over.

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Speaker 7: There, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 1: What can he text Seamus and get the other two?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll find out. Fox Sports Radios condemn

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Speaker 1: All right, we're an hour and ten minutes away from kickoff.

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Speaker 1: You're less than ten minutes away from Rich Ornberger leaving

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Speaker 1: us to do his play by play duties, which we

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Speaker 1: can understand. We can understand. You know, we're splitting time.

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Speaker 1: It's two a day's here with Rich and we have

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Speaker 1: time for his picks. Let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 1: All right, Rich, lay it on us. Three games, three side,

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Speaker 1: three totals, three props, wherever you want to go, Just

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Speaker 1: three picks. What do you have for us?

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Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, I'm gonna channel my inner Colorado

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Speaker 5: buffalo coach, prime style. I'm gonna pop on the shades.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna need a little luck for this one. All right,

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 5: Here we go. Alabama coming off a rough home loss

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,879
Speaker 5: against Texas. They're gonna take it out on South Florida.

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 5: I'm keying in on the first few drives for the

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Speaker 5: Crimson Tide. New quarterback Tyler Buckner working with offensive coordinator

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 5: Tommy Reese. They work together at Notre Dame. Expect the

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Speaker 5: first quarter to be heavily scripted and successful. I'll take

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 5: the Crimson Tide covering the seven and a half, their

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Speaker 5: favored buy in the first quarter of action. Let's move

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Speaker 5: on to Penn State at Illinois. This one comes down

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Speaker 5: to Penn State's O line against the Illinua defensive line.

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Speaker 5: I give that edge up front to the Lion. I

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Speaker 5: Lions are gonna win this game, but Illinois keeps it close.

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Speaker 5: I'll take the fourteen and a half points for the

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Speaker 5: home dogs in Champagne. Lastly, Liberty favor by three and

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Speaker 5: a half on the road in Buffalo. I've just got

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Speaker 5: two words for you boys here Seamus Special, Mike Drop.

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Speaker 5: I'm using the phone a friend here from our friend

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Speaker 5: of the show, Seamus McGee. Let's go. So seven and

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Speaker 5: a half point favorites Alabama in the first quarter, Illinois

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Speaker 5: the home dogs covering the fourteen and a half, and

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Speaker 5: Liberty favorites on the road three and a half against Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: Those are my rapid fire picks.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Alabama pick. I don't have the logic behind.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, me too. Yeah, first half's a good look.

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Speaker 6: We're using a couple of my buddies.

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Speaker 7: We're using Alabama and our pool.

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Speaker 6: Today we have to pick a bunch of games, and

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Speaker 6: they were one of the numbers that was pretty stale.

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Speaker 7: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well the first half I stayed away because

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Speaker 5: it's been juiced up to twenty one.

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Speaker 6: So we're twenty is what I'd look for there. I agree,

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Speaker 6: twenty and a half was available early this weekend and

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Speaker 6: it got that up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So I was nervous about the first half

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Speaker 5: and then I'm like, let me take a peek at

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Speaker 5: this first quarter because you know how it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: Tommy Reese. Look, there's a lot of pressure on the

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator too. This is his first year with the Tide.

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Speaker 5: He needs to impress his head coach. He I think

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, Brian. I think this was a

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Speaker 5: little bit of like, hey, coach Saban, you need to

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Speaker 5: let me have my guy out there. And that's the

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Speaker 5: reason why Buckner's the starter over mill Row this week.

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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna try to show out against South

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Speaker 5: Florida in the first quarter, first half for the Tide.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I like I like that number at seven

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Speaker 5: and a half. I could see a touchdown in a

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Speaker 5: field goal. I could see them blanking South Florida defensively.

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Speaker 5: I could see two touchdowns for the Crimson Tide in

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Speaker 5: the first quarter. So yeah, give me that seven and

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Speaker 5: a half. They could cover that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Jared and I will have another hour

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Speaker 1: to yack yak, yack yack about college football. We only

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Speaker 1: have one more minute with you, Rich. Yeah, So if

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Speaker 1: you could, one of your bicks is Illinois plus the

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Speaker 1: points against Penn State. What do you think about Drew Aller,

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Speaker 1: your boy Penn State quarterback first road test.

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Speaker 5: I think he's been a very nice surprise. I'm worried

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 5: about a the run game and be his protection. So

1502
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 5: the offensive line a little shaky out the gates for

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 5: the Nitney Lions. Look for Illois to try to shut

1504
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 5: down the run game. So this game becomes about Drew

1505
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 5: winning the game for the Nimes on the road. And

1506
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 5: now that's what I would do defensively against Penn State.

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 5: I would put it all on the new quarterback. Take

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01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 5: away the run game if you can, and they've struggled

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 5: to run, blocking up run a little bit and put

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01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: it all on the quarterback. So I think that's going

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 5: to be the plan. I think this is going to

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01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 5: be potentially a low scoring game. Also, yeah, it could be.

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01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: Well, hey man, good to hang with you here for

1514
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: a little while, rich and best of luck. I put

1515
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: the over under of a point five screwing up ui

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01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: ung la lay, I'm taking the under no screw up,

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01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: clean sheet for you today, We lay thank you, cover

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01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: it up. How many top fifteen road teams lose today?

1519
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: That's on the way. Oh what is going on? Everybody?

1520
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: We are less than an hour away from kickoff here?

1521
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 1: Week three of the college football season. As Bart Scott

1522
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: said so eloquently, can't wait right, love that can't wait

1523
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 1: here for Week three and no rank rapes, two teams

1524
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: that are both ranked. Not a game, Jared, not one.

1525
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: So if we look at the top fifteen, seven of

1526
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: the top fifteen teams are on the road. Okay, So

1527
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: if you look at these seven matchups, how many outright

1528
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: losses can you see here? Now some inflated lines. Florida

1529
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: State favored by a ton Washington, Alabama, they're heavy favorites,

1530
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: road favorites. Now, if you look at Tennessee, LSU, Kansas State,

1531
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: they're all favored by less than ten points. So there

1532
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: are a couple of lines where you could see an

1533
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: outright upset. Anything on your radar in terms of a

1534
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: home dog against the top fifteen road team.

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 6: I mean, I love the fact that the two road

1536
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 6: dog or home dogs that we put in the parlay

1537
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 6: platter or on this chart that you sent out in

1538
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 6: the rundown this morning.

1539
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 7: And I think it's Florida and I think it's Missouri.

1540
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 6: And I don't want to overreact to what I saw

1541
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 6: last week from Missouri, because again, the game plan was

1542
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 6: so conservative, it was Actually, it was wild to see

1543
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 6: Missouri throw the ball so little with a guy like

1544
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 6: Brady Cook as their quarterback. Who when you look at

1545
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 6: the numbers of what he's put up, they've been really good.

1546
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 6: He's an eighty five percent adjusted accuracy rate. I wrote

1547
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 6: it in my notes here at the top. Let Brady Cook,

1548
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 6: like literally, that's his name. Let him Cook. But they

1549
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 6: only threw the ball twenty two times against Middle. They

1550
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 6: ran it forty times. And I know that's Middle, but

1551
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 6: let's be honest. They won the game by four. They

1552
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 6: were favored by three touchdowns. I would have liked to

1553
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 6: see a little bit more separation there. Maybe they were

1554
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 6: holding something back for this game. This game used to

1555
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 6: be a big rivalry when it was Big twelve Big twelve,

1556
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 6: and it used to old Big Eight rivalry.

1557
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 7: But that was way back in the day.

1558
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 6: But this was a game last year that went very

1559
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,480
Speaker 6: poorly for Missouri in Manhattan.

1560
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 7: They lost by four touchdowns.

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 6: I could see this being the This is a classic

1562
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 6: revenge spot, and then you throw on top of that

1563
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 6: x's and o's and revenge and narrative aside. Let's it

1564
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 6: analyze the betting market. Everyone's betting Kansas State. Here, I'm

1565
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 6: seeing eighty ninety percent of the tickets in the handle

1566
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 6: at bet MGM on k State. But that line, as

1567
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 6: Seamus mentioned during our follow the Money segment, that line's

1568
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 6: starting to creep towards Missouri, right towards that key number

1569
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 6: of three. So I think this is a great home

1570
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 6: dog spot for Miszoo. And if I'm Kansas State, I'm

1571
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 6: on upset alert today.

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01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really tricky, isn't it to not be overly

1573
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: influenced by what happened last year or two years ago

1574
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: or all these matchups. When we're at Missouri right, Like,

1575
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to just be like separate that. Maybe you

1576
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: think about it a little bit. It's all about the

1577
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: here and now. It's not about historically speaking, especially when

1578
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: both teams have completely new rosters if we're talking just

1579
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: a few years ago. So I think that you can

1580
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: fall victim to that of saying, oh, hey man, the

1581
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: last time these two teams, well, the two teams are

1582
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: completely different.

1583
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 7: Now.

1584
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: Look at Colorado right If you were to say, well,

1585
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: last time Colorado and Colorado State, it's like Colorado has

1586
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: a whole new team. What are we doing right now?

1587
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: So it's something you got to keep in mind.

1588
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 6: Analyzing historical trends is I think a very slippery slope

1589
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 6: because I think certain trends can identify overarching themes, like

1590
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 6: I like coach trends because coaches tend to coach the

1591
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 6: game in similar ways, and certain coaches. A great example

1592
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,520
Speaker 6: this isn't college but Mike Rabel as an underdog performs

1593
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 6: really well against the spread, whereas when he's in the

1594
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 6: favorite role, they don't perform as well against the number.

1595
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 6: And it makes sense because if you think about who see,

1596
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 6: that's a trend that matches the narrative. Mike Rabel wants

1597
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 6: that chip on his shoulder. He coaches better when they

1598
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 6: are supposed to lose, and the data proves that. I

1599
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 6: think when you look at historical trends with college football,

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 6: you nailed it.

1601
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 7: The transfer portal. These teams change year to year.

1602
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 6: In the NFL, it's maybe you know, two or three years,

1603
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: the rosters are completely different, not as much turnover one

1604
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 6: year to the next, but still a pretty decent amount

1605
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 6: of turnover. In college football, it is like basically wipe

1606
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 6: the slate clean. And it's hard for us as handicappers

1607
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 6: because we have to learn these teams every year, and

1608
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 6: that's why it takes us a couple of weeks to

1609
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 6: get up to speed. But now we've had a couple

1610
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 6: of weeks to kind of examine these teams and when

1611
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 6: in Case States look good. Listen, I if Case State

1612
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 6: plays their a game and Will Howard's one hundred percent,

1613
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 6: they have outperformed the number consistently in their first two games,

1614
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 6: and they beat up on a good Troy team last week.

1615
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 6: But again, the market is my leading indicator. I like

1616
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 6: as much as I hold my opinion in high regard

1617
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 6: in terms of, you know, handicapping football, the professionals that

1618
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 6: do this are much better at it than me. And

1619
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 6: if they are moving a number in one direction, especially

1620
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 6: when it's a favorite and it's a public game on

1621
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 6: the other side and it's going the other way, that's

1622
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 6: when I really take notice.

1623
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1624
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: It's funny, man, you mentioned it earlier in the show.

1625
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: The volatility of college football stuff can change from week

1626
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: to week drastically, so from year to year it can

1627
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,799
Speaker 1: be even more drastic. But I'll hone in on another

1628
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 1: game here. If you look at Penn State, number seven

1629
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: seam in the country right now, at Illinois Illinois is

1630
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: a fourteen and a half point underdog. Volatility in college

1631
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: football is awesome until it screws up one of your bets,

1632
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you're banking on Okay,

1633
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: this has happened. This team can run the ball like crazy.

1634
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm expecting them to run the ball, and then they

1635
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,480
Speaker 1: can't run the ball, and you're like, what happened. Illinois

1636
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: is a great example where if you just look at

1637
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: the results, first game of the year, they barely beat

1638
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: Toledo and then last week they lose by double digits

1639
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: at Kansas. If they are hanging with Penn State today,

1640
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: you're like, let me get this straight. They barely beat

1641
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: Toledo and they're going toe to toe with the top

1642
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 1: ten Nitney Lions team right now. That's what makes college

1643
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: football special because crazy stuff like that does happen. But

1644
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: if it flies in the face of one of your

1645
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: bets and you're like, but wait a minute, I was

1646
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: expecting this to continue and it doesn't, that's when things

1647
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: can go sideways.

1648
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

1649
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 6: I think specifically that Penn State game today, So I

1650
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 6: think at fourteen I would bet Penn State. I think

1651
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 6: at fourteen and a half, fifteen that's you know where.

1652
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 6: Obviously the number matters a little bit more than I

1653
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 6: think the handicap. But for me, the handicap is Penn

1654
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 6: State has a new quarterback and James Franklin knows what

1655
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 6: the number is because we saw it two weeks ago.

1656
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 6: I would be And it's funny because obviously, as a

1657
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 6: fan and it is a long I've view Penn State

1658
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 6: very differently than the other one hundred and thirty plus teams.

1659
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 6: I try to stay objective with them, but it's hard.

1660
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 6: They're the hard They're the one team. Like when the Jets.

1661
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 7: When Aaron Rodgers went down the other night, I almost

1662
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 7: felt nothing.

1663
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 6: Because the Jets have hurt me so much over the years,

1664
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 6: I'm almost numb to it. And the NFL is a

1665
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 6: different animal. But Penn State I still get. It's like

1666
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 6: that college flame, you know. So I try to look

1667
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 6: at them objectively, but when I watch them play, and

1668
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 6: really the game against where you can't glean anything from

1669
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 6: last week against Delaware.

1670
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 7: But the game against West Virginia, they do have.

1671
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 6: A bit of a killer instinct to them, whereas in

1672
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 6: prior years, I don't know if they had it. I

1673
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 6: think they know they're good this year, and they know

1674
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 6: they can compete with Michigan and Ohio State.

1675
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 7: They know it.

1676
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 6: They've taught, they they've they've read about it, and in

1677
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 6: all the you know, the the Phil Steele books, they're

1678
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 6: saying they're one of the best rosters in the country.

1679
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 6: They know it, and I think there if they can

1680
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 6: win this game by thirty today, I think they will

1681
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 6: because we haven't seen a lot of separation from Ohio State.

1682
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 6: We've seen a little bit of separation from Michigan, but

1683
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 6: let's be honest, not much. They I don't even think

1684
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 6: they covered against ECU. But I think if Penn State

1685
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 6: can win this game going away today, I don't think

1686
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 6: they will hesitate. So I think at fourteen I would

1687
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 6: back in any lines. I think anything higher than that,

1688
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 6: i'd probably stay with.

1689
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: Hey, how about one other top fifteen road team number

1690
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 1: eight Washington at Michigan State. And this whole thing with

1691
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Sparti Jared is Rough WHOA wow. So Meltucker the head coach,

1692
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: he's been suspended due to sexual harassment allegations. You've got

1693
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Harlan Barnett, he's the DB's coach. He's the interim head

1694
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: coach right now. While Meltucker is suspended. Mark D'Antonio, former

1695
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: head coach, he comes out of retirement. He's a special advisor.

1696
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: He's going to be on the sidelines for Michigan State today.

1697
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: It is a wild scenario. And oh, by the way,

1698
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: you're trying to slow down Michael Penis Junior, who has

1699
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: been e electric. I love the matchup though Michigan State.

1700
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: They can put heat on the quarterback and Michael Penick's

1701
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: as almost every quarterback is different QB when he's facing

1702
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: pressure and when guys are you know, getting him off

1703
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: his spot disrupting his rhythm. So if Sparta can do

1704
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: that today, they can at least hang. They can make

1705
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: it a fourth quarter game potentially. But that's the big

1706
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: if can you get Michael Penix Junior rattled a bit

1707
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: at least, you know, in terms of sacking him, putting

1708
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: pressure on him, because if they can't, I think it's

1709
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: gonna be a long, long day. You're not matching points

1710
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: with Penix Junior and Washington if you're not able to

1711
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback early and often.

1712
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 7: I agree.

1713
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 6: I think this handicap if it was both teams in

1714
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 6: a vacuum. Brian, I think i'd be on Michigan stay here,

1715
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 6: But I just I don't know what we're gonna see

1716
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 6: from them. There's a lot of variance with this situation

1717
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 6: because there's a lot of emotion in East Lansing right now,

1718
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 6: and I don't want to get into the you know,

1719
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 6: the situation with coach Tucker.

1720
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 7: It's a mess. It's it's it's a mess.

1721
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 6: And I think the one stabilizing force that I can

1722
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 6: maybe look to is Mark D'Antonio, who I think will

1723
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 6: at least provide some leadership in that locker room. But

1724
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 6: we might see an inspired performance from Sparta today, Like

1725
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 6: I could see it going in that direction, but I

1726
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 6: could also see it going in the opposite direction. And

1727
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 6: when it snowballs against Washington, that's when you're really in

1728
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 6: trouble because they have the offense and they've done it

1729
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 6: now twice. They drop forty on Tulsa and they drop

1730
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 6: fifty six on Boise, and the Boise game's really the

1731
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 6: one that you look to because Tulsa obviously there's a

1732
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 6: look ahead spot. They probably weren't giving you their best

1733
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 6: stuff against Tulsa at home. You know you're going to

1734
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 6: East Lansing the following week if they can't, like if

1735
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 6: Washington goes up early. We're not doing a live betting

1736
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 6: segment today, but if we were. If Washington goes up early,

1737
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 6: that one could get away from Sparti really quick, but

1738
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,839
Speaker 6: I could. Honestly, this game has a lot of variance

1739
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 6: to it because the emotions tied to what Michigan State's

1740
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 6: program is going through right now is very difficult to quantify.

1741
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: I think this is a great end game.

1742
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.

1743
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 6: Game see how Michigan State looks coming out because I

1744
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 6: think it's gonna snowball in one direction or the other.

1745
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: I think it also matters how how you're getting your points.

1746
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Let's say Michigan State goes up. Is it a little

1747
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: bit like last night with Virginia getting up with a

1748
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,919
Speaker 1: couple of big plays against Maryland and it's like, okay,

1749
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: is that gonna continue or is Maryland gonna find their footing?

1750
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: Which they did. Maryland was down fourteen to nothing, they

1751
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: scored what forty two? Unanswered? Yeah, like it can change

1752
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: real fast. So I hear you think about all the momentum,

1753
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: all of the the emotion for Sparti. Let's say they

1754
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: come out and they are just the pass rush is there,

1755
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: they force a couple of punts, you know, maybe they

1756
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: get a lead. It's something to keep in mind of, Hey,

1757
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: how they got this lead. Are they capable of sustaining it?

1758
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Because if they aren't, you could see a comeback with Washington,

1759
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: or like you said, if Washington starts hot and you

1760
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: can tell Michigan State isn't getting home against Pennix Junior. Yeah, man,

1761
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: that bad boy can get out of hand fast. I

1762
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: would keep your eye on that in game wise, with

1763
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Washington and SPARTI.

1764
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 6: I totally agree. The other one that's interesting is the

1765
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 6: LSU Mississippi State game. Now, when I looked at this one,

1766
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 6: Bulldogs really struggle when they manage up and that was

1767
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 6: the one thing that stood out to me. Two and

1768
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 6: eight against the spread when they're a dog of ten

1769
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 6: or more. Now it's kind of hovering around that mark. Now,

1770
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 6: But what that tells me, and again this is back

1771
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 6: to our original conversation, where do trends prior historical trends

1772
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 6: kind of tell a story that you can take to

1773
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 6: this game. Mississippi State plays a lot of these big

1774
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 6: time SEC schools. They play them at home a lot,

1775
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 6: and they're a big underdog, a lot don't perform well,

1776
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 6: and it's not necessarily this matchup because I think actually

1777
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 6: LSU's secondary, which we'll get to a little bit later

1778
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 6: in the prop section, might be able to be had here.

1779
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 6: But then I look at the big picture and I

1780
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 6: look at what Will Rogers is trying to accomplish, and

1781
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 6: I don't see the explosion that I think Jordan Travis

1782
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 6: showed in beating LSU a couple of weeks ago. So

1783
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 6: I think this LSU game a couple of really sharp groups.

1784
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 6: Some people I very much respect are on LSU here.

1785
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 6: That's why he's seen this number creep out to ten.

1786
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 6: I think that's where the buyback point is for Mississippi State.

1787
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 6: But Jade Daniels I think can have a pretty solid

1788
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 6: game because Misssippi States defense is averaging six yards for

1789
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 6: play again, So I think LSU is a team that

1790
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 6: I would look to bet today, But at ten is

1791
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 6: kind of where I would hesitate because numbers, right, we

1792
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 6: bet numbers, not teams. But overall, I think the matchup

1793
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 6: if Mississippi State's receivers can figure out a way to

1794
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 6: get down the field and create some havoc against this

1795
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 6: U secondary. The secondary is the weak spot I think

1796
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 6: Mississippi State can compete today. The problem is Rogers has

1797
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 6: one of the lowest average depth of targets of any

1798
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 6: quarterback in college football this year. They are not a explosive,

1799
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 6: throw the ball down the field team and they only

1800
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 6: threw the ball seventeen times in an overtime game last

1801
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 6: week against Arizona. I mean, Mike Leach must be like,

1802
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 6: what this is The offense we saw last year with

1803
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 6: coach Leach is completely gone. They are running the ball now.

1804
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 6: We heard their current head coach Ac Garnett come out

1805
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 6: this week could say they need to be more aggressive.

1806
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 6: We'll see if they do that this week, because I

1807
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 6: think Mississippi State has an advantage in the in the

1808
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 6: wide receiver group. If they could push this LSU secondary.

1809
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's in the game plan though.

1810
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy see these teams that change their styles, Like

1811
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: you said, Mike Leach just throwing it all over the place,

1812
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: and our nets like we're gonna pound the rock and

1813
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: you're like, what am I thirty nine.

1814
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 6: Runs against Arizona last week? Yeah, it is very anti

1815
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 6: Mississippi very anti pirate.

1816
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit like Army just throwing the ball.

1817
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: You're like, what this is Army? Really?

1818
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1819
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 6: Well how about that last night Army was throwing chucking

1820
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 6: it all over the r That's great.

1821
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Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know we lost

1827
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Rich Ornberger. He's on his way to call uh the

1828
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: what the San Diego State at.

1829
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 6: It's gonna be based on the pointsburg. That's gonna be

1830
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 6: a tough one for Rich's boys today.

1831
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I really wanted to go with a couple of prop

1832
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: bets or a couple of sides something, just.

1833
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 6: Any props on that on that game posted.

1834
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought about going with that just so Rich.

1835
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: If I'm on the right side Rich calling the game

1836
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: can be like, gosh, no, he's gonna get that one right.

1837
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: You know, that would have been sweet.

1838
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 6: DJ I'm seen on BETMGM right now one and a

1839
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 6: half touchdowns over one and a half's minus one forty

1840
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 6: five on.

1841
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 7: The dj Ouyungala lay. That's Russey props today.

1842
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 1: Well, we'll discuss that and a lot more prop bet

1843
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Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into this. We got prop Betscalore,

1854
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Jared Smith.

1855
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 3: Prop it up player plays.

1856
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, So we have just a plethora, a

1857
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: gaggle of prop bets that we could choose so many

1858
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: different directions to go. And I'm gonna hone in on

1859
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: one game here and we can just go all over.

1860
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: We can go Willy nilly here cheered, we go where

1861
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: you want to go. I'm looking at Georgia hosting South Carolina.

1862
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: What catches my eye Spencer Rattler, South Carolina quarterback. His

1863
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: passing yardage prop is.

1864
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 7: One ninety four and a baby that's low.

1865
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: That seems real low until you think, wait a minute,

1866
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: George's got a really nasty defense and a really nasty

1867
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: pass rush. But you look at Spencer Ratler three point

1868
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 1: fifty three in the opener against North Carolina, last game,

1869
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 1: three forty five. I can't help but think of last

1870
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: year where they were giant killers against Clemson and Tennessee.

1871
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 1: So one ninety four and they should be playing from

1872
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,560
Speaker 1: behind right like, yeah, they could be down three four touchdowns.

1873
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: As long as Rattler's still in there, you might get

1874
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: some garbage yards at the end.

1875
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 6: I think we're all with Yeah, No, that's a good

1876
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 6: that's a good approach to props too. If you're picking

1877
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 6: the quarterback of the team that's favored by twenty eight,

1878
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,879
Speaker 6: you're probably not going to get a lot of passes

1879
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 6: in the second half because if they're up by twenty

1880
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 6: one in the fourth quarter, they're gonna run the ball

1881
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 6: game script matters a lot. We use the phrase neutral

1882
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 6: game script when describing how teams perform when they're because

1883
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 6: a lot of times we're like, oh, this team's pass happy. Yeah,

1884
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 6: they're one of the worst teams in the country. They're

1885
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 6: down by twenty every week. Obviously they're pass happy. So

1886
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 6: we use neutral game script to try to analyze how

1887
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 6: teams what they choose to do when the game is

1888
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 6: not completely out of hand. It might get out of

1889
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 6: hand today with Georgia and South Carolina, and that would

1890
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 6: help a passing yards prop in garbage time, of course,

1891
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 6: with Specer Ratler, give you one today and we just

1892
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,679
Speaker 6: talked about this game, but I'll give you the Will

1893
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 6: Rogers passing touchdowns prop over one and a half. I

1894
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 6: saw some plus money at certain shops at MGM's offering

1895
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 6: this at minus one ten, which is pretty much fair

1896
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 6: shot right across the board down the middle. But again,

1897
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 6: we talked about this in the last seg. Mississippi State

1898
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 6: only through.

1899
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 7: Its seventeen times against Arizona.

1900
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 6: That is not going to fly this week against LSU,

1901
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 6: and the Tigers have a bit of a deficiency in

1902
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 6: the secondary. They're outside the top one hundred in passing

1903
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,799
Speaker 6: yards allowed per game. Now, I wouldn't bet the passing

1904
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 6: yards prop for Rogers in this case because again we

1905
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 6: talked about the A dot the average depth of target

1906
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 6: one twentieth out of one hundred and twenty six quarterbacks

1907
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 6: that have graded enough throws to qualify so far in

1908
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,759
Speaker 6: the FBS, So he's not pushing the ball down the field.

1909
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 6: But in the red zone. I think that's where the

1910
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 6: passing game can be a factor for Mississippi State. He's

1911
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 6: gone over one and a half touchdowns in both games

1912
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 6: this season and ten of his last fifteen.

1913
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 7: At minus one ten, I think it's a.

1914
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 6: Fair price to bet the Will Rodgers passing touchdowns prop

1915
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 6: today and the game script right, they're down by ten late,

1916
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 6: they're a double digit underdog today. We think Mississippi State's

1917
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 6: going to be passing it, and I think.

1918
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 7: That touchdowns prop for Rogers is the way to bet it.

1919
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: Here's one that I love. Oh, this is a gross one.

1920
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Back to Spencer Rattler again, South Carolina quarterback rushing yardage

1921
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 1: against Georgia at bet MGM. It said it four and

1922
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: a half.

1923
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 6: Now, No, here's the thing, I know why, Yeah, you

1924
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 6: explain why.

1925
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sack yardage counts against the quarterback's individual rushing yardage,

1926
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: which makes no sense.

1927
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 7: It doesn't.

1928
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: But to illustrate that, against North Carolina, Spencer Rattler ran

1929
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: for minus twenty two yards because they gave up nine sacks.

1930
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: So what do you think today against the Dogs?

1931
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 7: I'm thinking the under, Absolutely the under.

1932
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 6: So when I looked at South Carolina's offensive line, Dave

1933
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 6: might have the worst offensive line in the entire sec.

1934
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 6: They can't run the ball, and Rattler, as I mentioned,

1935
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 6: has been pressured on almost forty percent of his dropbacks.

1936
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 6: It is a miracle that he has made zero turnover

1937
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 6: worthy plays so far, but that's because he's getting the

1938
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 6: ball out so fast. That could be the one bugaboo.

1939
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 6: Perhaps South Carolina looks at this game and says, we

1940
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 6: have no chance to push the ball down the field.

1941
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 7: The only chance we have is to think and done.

1942
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 6: If that's the case, there might not be as many sacks,

1943
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 6: but you take one or two bad sacks, that's twenty

1944
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 6: yards right there. He that's a lot of ground you've

1945
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 6: got to make up. So I would not bet the

1946
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 6: I would never bet an over, and I've been burned

1947
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 6: by the sacks before.

1948
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 7: Brian, I would never bet an over.

1949
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 6: In a college football quarterback rushing prop because of the sacks.

1950
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 7: It's just too vulnerable.

1951
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think the matchups matter in this particular spot.

1952
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 1: I'd have a hard time taking the over. Yeah, it's

1953
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 1: based on George's bat.

1954
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 5: Z line.

1955
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: One other last one from this game, and we'll move

1956
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: to a different one. South Carolina wide receiver Xavier Legate.

1957
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: He's been a beast these first two games. Jared one

1958
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight receiving yards against North Carolina last

1959
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: game one eighteen. It's set at forty two and a

1960
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: half against Georgia, which, again, styles make fights like you

1961
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: have to adjust in terms of the opponent. So but

1962
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: forty two and a half, it just seems like it's

1963
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: sitting there on a platter for you. Man, don't be

1964
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 1: shocked if the under hits on that. Also, let's move

1965
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: to a different game. How about this. Let's look at

1966
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: your Penn State Nitney Lions against Illinois. Okay, this caught

1967
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: my eye. Luke Altmeier, he's the Illinois quarterback. Yeah, I'm

1968
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 1: gonna test you right here. Jared. His rushing yardage prop

1969
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: bet is at twenty five and a half Okay, again,

1970
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: Illinois quarterback sack yardage counts against his individual rushing numbers.

1971
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: But the first two games, he's rushed for sixty nine

1972
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 1: yards seventy yards like he'll tuck it, he'll run, and

1973
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to scramble at times against Penn State.

1974
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: So can he get to I mean, barring sacks, Let's

1975
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: say you get sacked what four or five times today?

1976
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: That could be twenty five yards right there, right. So

1977
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: if that's the case, he's gonna have to rush for

1978
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: fifty one yards. He's got to make up that difference.

1979
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Can he get to twenty six yards rushing today? I

1980
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: say he can?

1981
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 7: I think he can.

1982
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 6: But I think the fact that he's had two good

1983
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 6: running games and the line is set so low is

1984
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 6: telling you that there's probably gonna be a few more

1985
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 6: like the first two games for Illinois. We're against Kansas

1986
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 6: and Toledo. The level of rush in his face today

1987
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 6: is going to be light. Here's of what he saw

1988
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 6: against Kansas and Toledo. I think Petsta and listen, we're

1989
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 6: gonna get a chance in a few weeks when they

1990
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 6: host Michigan to really see what they're made of. But

1991
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 6: I think they might have the best front seven in

1992
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 6: the entire country, at least pound for pound. I know

1993
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 6: Georgia might have more high end talent, but I think

1994
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 6: they do more with less. I mean, what Penn State

1995
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 6: I think has is finally, for the first time, the

1996
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 6: high end guys to match the scheme and the tenacity.

1997
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 6: They've always been tenacious on defense, but they haven't always

1998
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 6: had those legit pieces at all levels that they have

1999
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 6: this year and the depth behind it, like that top program.

2000
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 6: Should Ohio date Georgia, the Alabama, et cetera. I just

2001
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 6: I could see Altmeyer and the entire Pylanois offensive line

2002
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 6: and for a really rough day.

2003
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Here could they And if they're trailing, that's the other

2004
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: thing you have to think about the situation. If they're

2005
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: trailing in the second half by double digits, how likely

2006
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 1: is the quarterback gonna tuck it and rush. You know,

2007
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be trying to throw it a little

2008
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 1: bit more and get chunk plays, So that matters as well.

2009
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: But man, you think about a couple of first half

2010
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: one big run and you're probably home free. I don't

2011
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna have one, but right it's like

2012
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: like the underdog in a fight and you're like, one

2013
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: punch could do it, and it's like, yeah, but.

2014
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 5: It's gonna it's a low number.

2015
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 6: It's just those sack props are tough, and I knowed

2016
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 6: oh like or not the sack props, but the Russian

2017
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 6: props because of the sacks. I think there's I think

2018
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 6: there's ways to attack those markets in the props, but

2019
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 6: I think you have to be really granular.

2020
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 7: You have to really know the teams.

2021
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 6: For example, I don't bet a whole lot of college

2022
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 6: football props just because I feel like it's a little

2023
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 6: more volatile in college football with the usage. Yeah, maybe

2024
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks I would feel differently about, because obviously one

2025
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 6: guy touches at every play at the quarterback, But like

2026
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:50,440
Speaker 6: the skill.

2027
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 7: Positions, it's just there's so many guys.

2028
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 6: On the roster unless you have a really good matchup

2029
01:43:56,240 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 6: that you really think is a plus matchup. It to me,

2030
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 6: I think it's the tougher of the two prop markets.

2031
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 6: In the bull season, it gets a little easier because

2032
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 6: you know guys are going it's the last game, they're

2033
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 6: going for a record or whatever. It's a little bit easier.

2034
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,799
Speaker 6: But I think in the early stages of the regular season.

2035
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 6: Be very careful with the prop numbers you look at,

2036
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 6: because some of these guys you just don't know if

2037
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 6: they're part of the.

2038
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 7: Game plan or not.

2039
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 6: And the game script at Brian alluded to is absolutely.

2040
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Clus huge, huge, I'll give you a crazy prop story

2041
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: right around the corner. I wasn't betting on it, but

2042
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I noticed it.

2043
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 6: And entertaining when you have an action on it or like, it.

2044
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: Goes hand in hand with what we're talking about here.

2045
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: First though, Isaac klohen Kron, he always goes hand in

2046
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: hand and everything that we're doing. The Master of Greatness

2047
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: is what I would say, I love with the latest.

2048
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 8: And especially when the lead story has to do with

2049
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 8: the cleaning out of a locker. That is what is trending.

2050
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 8: After the Detroit Tigers eleven two victory over the Angels

2051
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 8: at Anaheim last night, so after the game, reporters observed

2052
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 8: that Shohei Otani's locker in the Angels Stadium clubhouse had

2053
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 8: been cleared of nearly all of his personal belongings. So

2054
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 8: Otani has missed the last eleven games with an oblique

2055
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 8: injury and has been officially considered day today the Los

2056
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 8: Angeles Dodgers a six to three win at Seattle. Their

2057
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 8: magic number to clinch the NL West is two. Arizona

2058
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 8: over the Cubs six to four. The Diamondbacks and Cincinnati

2059
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 8: Reds now tied for the final National League wildcard spot.

2060
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 8: The Rockies scored two in the bottom of the night

2061
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 8: to beat the Giants three to two. San Francisco now

2062
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 8: a game behind Arizona and Cincinnati for the final National

2063
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 8: League wildcard spot. Finally, in college football, last night, Colorado

2064
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: State head coach Jay Norvell tweeted about his recent critical

2065
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 8: comments about Colorado head coach Dion Sanders. Norvell tweeted, quote,

2066
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 8: with all the media involved with this game, not one

2067
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 8: reporter asked me about my comment. I wanted to send

2068
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 8: a message to our players and how we run our program.

2069
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 8: Hashtag ram grit unquote. Well, a short time ago on

2070
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 8: college game day, Dion Sanders himself was asked about Norvell, Well.

2071
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 5: When we meet at the conclusion of the game, just

2072
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 5: keep the cameras rope.

2073
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Oh they will, Dion, they will back to is.

2074
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 7: What is he gonna do?

2075
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 8: Put on a hat and sunglasses?

2076
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Anyways, probably he might take it off, put on another

2077
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: one Yeah, yeah, he's gonna take it off.

2078
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

2079
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm curious how this goes.

2080
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's like what man, He's just this

2081
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 6: is like do you guys remember me and Jane the

2082
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 6: old wrestling promoter. Yeah, this is like every game, every

2083
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 6: week is just another mean Jane Hulk Houlgan like Hulcomania promo,

2084
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 6: Like it is that it's musty TV.

2085
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 7: It really is changing the face of college football.

2086
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: It's a wild and that's why you can't give him

2087
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: what he wants. Like j Norvell gave Dean Sanders exactly

2088
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: what he wants, which is a recipe for more attention

2089
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: and more focused on Colorado by saying, Hey, my mom

2090
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: taught me to take my hat and sunglasses off when

2091
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking to adults. And it's clearly a shot. What's

2092
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: the up.

2093
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 7: Side of saying that?

2094
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 6: Like, that's the part that boggles my mind, Like what

2095
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 6: is the best like the best case scenario of him

2096
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 6: saying that? Because before I open my mouth on this

2097
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 6: show anywhere else, I try, I try to think things through.

2098
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 6: I know, sometimes it's a long show. We say things

2099
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 6: that are in one ear out the other. But what's

2100
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 6: the upside I only see downside there.

2101
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: I only see downside also. And that's the thing. If

2102
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna poke the bear, at least do it in

2103
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: a way that helps your team out right, He would

2104
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: have been better off saying I think they're overrated, I

2105
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:54,839
Speaker 1: think we're gonna handle them or whatever. Just call the shot.

2106
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: And the team is like, okay, we got to back

2107
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: up what coach is saying here. It's that he took

2108
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,919
Speaker 1: a shot at him wearing sun appearance. Yeah, what defensive

2109
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 1: lineman is like, oh, we got to have coaches back

2110
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: right now. I agree because no one's saying it.

2111
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 7: Doesn't make any sense to me.

2112
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 6: And and I like your angle on if you really

2113
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 6: wanted to poke yet, if you really wanted to poke

2114
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 6: the bear, say I watched Colorado on film. I think

2115
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 6: our guys can beat them.

2116
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, say I'm not convinced TCU or Nebraska or in

2117
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: exactly that, because you're right.

2118
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 7: Then you're putting the onus on your team instead.

2119
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 6: Now you're getting this phony story about hat you know,

2120
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 6: and I saw I just did it listen. I mean

2121
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 6: I buy into the media height where a media organization

2122
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 6: we'd like to create attention. I saw all of the

2123
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 6: college game day analysts wearing hat and sunglasses and the

2124
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 6: fuck and Pat mcvin no, Like, all you're doing is

2125
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 6: you're taking attention away from your team. He had that

2126
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 6: one moment when he said it. It was like a shot

2127
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 6: across the battle. People are like, wow, Jaye Norville, Oh

2128
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 6: my goodness, And now it just got vacuu sucked right

2129
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 6: back to the other side on Colorado. If he said

2130
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 6: our guys are better and we're gonna show you on Saturday,

2131
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 6: maybe people would actually be taught.

2132
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,839
Speaker 7: About Colorado State right now instead of the other side.

2133
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Right you at least have a chance to fire up

2134
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: your team. You would at least have a chance to Okay,

2135
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: he threw down the gauntlet, Like you're not throwing down

2136
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Speaker 1: a gauntlet with a diss about shades and a hat.

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01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: That's just so stupid. This has turned into Remember like

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01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: the Belichick and Eric Mangenie postgame handshakes, because Mangenie with

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01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: the Jets blew the whistle on Spygate and it's like, oh,

2140
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: how icy is this handshake gonna be? Like that's what

2141
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: this has turned out to me. With Dean Sanders and

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01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Jay Norvell. Hey listen as silly as it is for

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01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: Colorado State. I think it's fantastic for college football. I'm

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01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: here for all.

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01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 7: I totally agree.

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01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 6: That's the part about this that I actually love is

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01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 6: that this game this week is not going to draw

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01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 6: that kind of you know, fanfare once the game starts.

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01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 7: But next week, what about the game against USC?

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01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 6: I mean, goodness, gracious, you want to talk If they

2151
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 6: win by forty this week? First of all, it's setting

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01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 6: up a fantastic box by low Sell, high opportunity, you know,

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01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 6: to fade him against Oregon next week.

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01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 7: But just that game itself, I mean, that's what.

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Speaker 1: We want as college football fans, right, absolutely it is.

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01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: We want a big, best best Yeah, big storylines. So

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01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,720
Speaker 1: it sets up very nicely for next week. Just got

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01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: to take care of business tonight for the Buffs, and

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01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: we're sure trending toward that being the case. All Right,

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Speaker 1: We've got Chared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know

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01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: rich Oinberger with us for the first two hours. He's

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01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 1: on the road to call San Diego State in Oregon State.

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01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: They had to get going, so he's out for this hour,

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01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: but we got picks galore coming up next. I'll give

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01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: you the crazy prop bet story from last week that

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01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: you want to keep in the back of your mind today.

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: If you're getting in on certain prop bets, we'll get

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff to you coming up. It's Fox

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,879
Speaker 1: Chris Purfet, Technical producer, I low Isaac Lowenkron on the updates,

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01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: fantastic job by All Top of the Hour, up on Game,

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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, TJ Hushman, Zada, Plaxico Burras and I'm really

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01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: thinking about taking Sparty Gosh. I hope they don't let

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01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: me down if I do pull the trigger.

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01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 7: On have you not made yet?

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01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 5: On the pick?

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01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 7: You have a few and then you're like, what am

2180
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 7: I gonna get? Because I don't know what I'm mean?

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01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 1: Oh man, there are two that I I'm really debating

2182
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:37,759
Speaker 1: between the two, But in honor of Plexico Buris Sparty Alum,

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01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: I might go with a a Sparty based bet here.

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01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 7: How about the.

2185
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 6: Upside of their emotion today? I think that could be

2186
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 6: a very interesting game.

2187
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: Could be at least an interesting first quarter first half

2188
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 1: way up? How about this nightmarish scenario prop betting wise

2189
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: before we get to our picks. I had my eye

2190
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,759
Speaker 1: on Notre Dame quarterback Sam hart Man last week because

2191
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 1: his rushing prop was at fourteen and a half and

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01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Sam doesn't rush a whole lot, but I

2193
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: could see him getting to fifteen. I stayed away very

2194
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the game Jared against NC State. He rips

2195
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: off a sixteen yard run and You're like, wow, okay,

2196
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: but again, the sack yardage counts against a quarterback's individual

2197
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: rushing yardage. He finished the day with five carries for

2198
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: minus twenty seven yard.

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01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 7: That's wild. It just goes to show you.

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01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 6: I think the quarterback rushing props are probably the toughest

2201
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 6: a cap in the entire college football props landscape. They

2202
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 6: could make you just have no idea.

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01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can make you tear your hair out the

2204
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 1: fastest because if you take a running back or a

2205
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, if you take their over with rushing or

2206
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: receiving yards, once they hit the over, you're almost guarantee, yeah.

2207
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 7: Very rare, you get negative plays.

2208
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, very rarely. But a quarterback. Oh that is not

2209
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 1: a lock.

2210
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:02,759
Speaker 7: You need to actually be out of my mind.

2211
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,480
Speaker 6: And usually you're betting quarterback rushing overs or any quarterback

2212
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 6: over on a team that's behind, because you think they're

2213
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 6: gonna be you know, throwing it a lot and he's

2214
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:11,839
Speaker 6: gonna be running for his life.

2215
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be up by a good thirty

2216
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: forty rushing yards need to feel like okay.

2217
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 6: Or what if the snab was over his head, He's

2218
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 6: got to run a get it like crazy stuff crazy.

2219
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely it can. It can go sideways real fast. All right,

2220
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 1: hopefully these picks do not go sideways. Let's do let's

2221
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 1: dive into it right here, rapid fire, all right, Jared,

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01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: start us off man, what are you thinking today?

2223
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 7: All right?

2224
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:43,799
Speaker 6: Ugly dogs need love to not my dog. He's beautiful,

2225
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 6: but these dogs are a little ugly. So we're gonna

2226
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 6: try to sell him here. Tulsa plus twenty eight and

2227
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 6: a half. They're at home today, taken on Oklahoma. Now,

2228
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 6: they lost by thirty three at Washington last week, but

2229
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 6: the spread was thirty four. They covered the number. And

2230
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 6: this is the first home sellout for Tulsa since a

2231
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 6: Wednesday night game. Against Boise State way back in two

2232
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 6: thousand and nine.

2233
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 7: This game is.

2234
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 6: The Super Bowl for Tulsa hosting Oklahoma today. I don't

2235
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 6: love what I've seen from the Sooner, especially their offense

2236
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 6: so far. I think Tulsa the Hurricane, Golden Hurricane. Keep

2237
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 6: this within that twenty eight and a half point window.

2238
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 6: FIU catching seven at yukoniu ay, Yukon. Oh my goodness,

2239
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 6: Yukon starting quarterbacks out for the year. They're gonna start

2240
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,759
Speaker 6: a former Penn State transfer Taekwon Roberson today.

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01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 7: FIU is coming off a nice win over North Texas and.

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01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 6: They're playing a little bit better than expected. This game

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01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 6: to me is a pick'm Brian. The fact that I'm

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01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 6: getting seven full points. Maybe you give Yukon one or

2245
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 6: two points. You're being at home. I'm getting a full

2246
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 6: touchdown with the Panthers. I'll take FIU plus seven at Yukon.

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I've got three picks for you right here.

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Let's start it off with Bowling Green against Michigan. I'm

2249
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: taking over fifty three and a half. Bowling Green can

2250
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,919
Speaker 1: score some points. They're weird. They might have a turnover

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01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: in Michigan plus territory and Michigan. I think they're due

2252
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: for a breakout. I think we're gonna see more points

2253
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: from them as they're trying to turn it on right.

2254
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take over fifty three and a half

2255
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: in that one. I've got Syracuse minus two and a

2256
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: half at Purdue. Syracuse is out of the gates strongly,

2257
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and I know this is a bump up in competition,

2258
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 1: but I think they can cover to two and a

2259
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 1: half on the road. And I am looking at Michigan

2260
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 1: State the emotion, hopefully the swagger, hopefully they're ticked off

2261
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. If they can get home, If the

2262
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: pass rush is there against Michael Pennix Junior, I think

2263
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: they can slow him down enough. Give me the game,

2264
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: give me plus sixteen and a half. Sparty today, flax

2265
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: of co burs, don't let me down. Then rolling with

2266
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Michigan's day. All right, let's do this.

2267
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 3: This is the best play of the day.

2268
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: All right, Jared, what is it we're going with the

2269
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:02,839
Speaker 1: Florida Gators.

2270
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 7: Don't be deterred by the line move. We've gone from

2271
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 7: six and a half down to five and a half.

2272
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 7: I would still bet Florida plus five and a half.

2273
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 6: I think they win outright against Tennessee today.

2274
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 1: WHOA, you might be right. I don't hate the pick

2275
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: at all. Everybody enjoy all the ball. We'll catch you

2276
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: soon