1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast, can't figure out what 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: XFL stands for, that's not true Extreme Football League. Welcome 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm joined 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Right? X is extreme? Right? 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: So the person so that came from a listener and 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the listeners listened to a series of shows and views 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: us as mental adults. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, it's 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: a it's a simi all the league also has you know, 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: been will please Happy Friday, everybody. How's everybody doing? Greg? 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm great? Good until I heard that? Now annoyed? Now, Annoyd? 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: I get it. Wes, you got the the winter cap 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: on here and came in with nothing but this polo 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: shirt on and then it was you know, it's like 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: a meat locker in here. So put the old gray 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: shirt in the hat a Wednesday and make sure you 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: get it and make sure you check it out if 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: you haven't yet, because I'm sure your fantasy draft is 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: this weekend or in the week coming. The Fantasy Extravaganza 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: it was a annual fantasy extravaganza, and what a celebration 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: it was to mark that milestone. So I didn't get 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: a chance to bring it up, but I wanted to 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: make one more point, that one more nugget that I 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: got Mark from the Westling Rosenthal Rich Eyes and show appearance, 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: which again went over like gangbusters everywhere you turn. A 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of social media action around that the guys look great. 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: And I mentioned this on Instagram and Twitter. Um, but 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: I want to say it in person. You guys looked 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: really good on camera. Fit, well dressed, fit. Yeah, that's 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: well spoken. It was just a nice It was a 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: nice thing to see represented the brand well. But I 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to mention Mark that I heard through the 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: grapevine that, um, you know West he he positions himself 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: as the man sitting at the top the common man rankings. Okay, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: sure he does famously. You know Bertie told me that 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: he took a limo to the rich. Wait a minute, 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: that cannot be true. That is erroneous. There was no 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: limo and the poor driver had to take out a 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: baby seat to put us in. There's a car service, 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: it was, yes, if it was, it was let's actually 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: I have I have footage the West side of Cincinnati, 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: a working class area. Let's just cut to the West 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: side of Cincinnati. Their reaction to the news that was 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: his mom. They're worked up, and it should. In West's defense, 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't drive an automobile these days, which is kind 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: of a common man thing. So you know, if you 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: get off the ride, the common man thing, getting the 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: pickup truck and rumble over to Direct TV headquarters, or 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I would say, just a simple uber X, the lowest 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: tier uber off. You can expense it easily with the company. 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure West has a very cooked up appropriate response 53 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: to this, though. I was told by the people in 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the West set of Cincinnati that I was getting up, 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: but he when I wore dockers once in a while. 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: One thing, one thing I learned during that episode sitting 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: behind the Glass is that you guys are asked. I 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: now understand, well, I'm in here, and I become one too. 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: But when I'm back there, I realized these guys are 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: impossible to deal with, total vault. They're living up on clouds, 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: and I just was appalled by what I've viewed, especially 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: off air. Sobering Sobering stuff. Mark Uh. Coming up on 63 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast some 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: preseason week three Uh takeaways. There was a handful a 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: bushel of games played Thursday and what used to be 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: the most important UM week on the preseason calendar, and 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I guess it still is, but it's different now. It's 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: just different. It's just treated in the same way once was. 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: But there are takeaways and we will share them. Also, um, 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Greg wrote a banger. Yeah he did. What is that 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: five thousand words top five thousand word banger us? It 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: was yeah, work anyway, biggest training camp surprises going city 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: by city by city. Now, Mark wouldn't ask that. Look 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: at all the compliments I'm paying to the group today, 75 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Can you stop saying it? So I have to go 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: back and bleep all these words like I keep saying 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the word asked. Also, I have to go back and 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: do all this work. Whenever you are butttering anyone up, 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: it is for a purpose, Nick, for a tier. Uh. 80 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: That drop right there. So Greg wrote about his from 81 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: his viewpoint, the biggest camp surprises in each city. So 82 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: we'll hit that. But before that, let's do some news, 83 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: go and broke by and hype. But I know what 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I like because I'm banking on the Brown to be 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: that winning type little wins to did just got credit 86 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: and swipe Bow had turned up changed with Stereo Dorsey 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: spinning at making the right pick, imagination at work called 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: general electric like moves one after the other. All this 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: new talent made him pays to discouna bark that noise. 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: Freddy ready with the Cleveland Boys, maker in the back 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: with the sash and poys better believe beleveland got some 92 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: brand new toys, Boy Brown making des shiver like the 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: league on fire, like the Kuyahoga River never seen flows? 94 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: How these are Cardi sevest in the pockets? Is Bernie Cosa? Wow? 95 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: That was not Cardi b That was Connie fox A 96 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: gave the tiny box Colleen Wolf this morning on Good 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Morning Football, all about your Brown's mark. I'm blown away, 98 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: and I you know, one little There's so much to 99 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: unpack there, but she mentioned Baker Mayfield's fashion poise and 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: you know what. Obviously, um he did the g Q thing. 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: And I saw seeing all the tweets, everyone calling what 102 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the code he wore his grandmother's old all the suff 103 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's be real about one thing, and it's now 104 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: it's his turn to be ripped apart for his fashion choices. 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: To every one of these quarterbacks that does one of 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: these fashion spreads, and really, any rich male, any male 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: that becomes super rich, starts wearing clothing that is so 108 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: beyond what any of us would ever comprehend putting on that. 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: He's just like anyone else at this point. It's not 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: like setting new give me a break with the Mark 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Sanchez Spreadshoot like that, That to me was he's not 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: picking was. The only question is whether he takes him 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: with him when I think Baker's at the point he's 114 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: just taking this was it? I would think it was 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: like a joke on Twitter that was actually his grandmother's coat. No, 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: it's just that it looked very much like a like 117 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: a code of grandmother from any century, might uh put 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: on any century. Wow, you take a great job, she 119 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: wrote that. Yes she did. She did, and she performed it, 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and I think she won the rap battle between her 121 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Bryant. Wow, nicely. That hurts, Nate, you know it does. 122 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Cam Newton got hurt unbelievable. On Thursday, he left the 123 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: preseason game against the Patriots, uh with a foot injury. 124 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: He left the stadium in a walking boot, and rap 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: Sheet reported Friday that an X ray and other tests 126 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: um he was diagnosed with a mid foot sprain in 127 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: his left foot. General manager Marty Hernie turd Rap told 128 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: rap Sheet that the team is quote cautiously optimistic that 129 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Newton will be ready for Week one against the Rams, 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: week one, which is now, you know, just over two 131 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: weeks away and west you know, we didn't mention Cam 132 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Newton in um the fantasy extravaganza during the Stay Stay 133 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Way chatter, but he was on my list just going 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: to get a chance to bring him up. I just 135 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit nervous about Cam because, um, obviously, 136 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: any thirty year old quarterback that said two shoulder surgeries, 137 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: you get nervous. But he's also had ankle surgery. Now 138 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: this foot is right connected to that ankle. Is it 139 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: possible that the guy has taken a lot of abuse 140 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: over the years he's breaking down? Is that a real 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: concerned to be having if you're a path dispex So 142 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: it's a scary one. Well, I mean, is it possible, sure, 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It seems more like bad luck 144 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: to me than breaking down. A mid foot spring. To me, 145 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: the greater concern is that I haven't liked what I've 146 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: seen out of Will Greer at the quarterback they drafted 147 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: in the third round. Guys like Ryan Finley the Bengals 148 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: mid round pick, and Jared's did him the Patriots mid 149 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: round pick, looked a lot better. I haven't like I've 150 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: been impressed with Easton Stick a little bit from the Chargers, 151 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: but Will Greer has not played well and he got 152 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: rave reviews coming out of the draft. It's a bummer 153 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: because Cam Newton got really good reviews in practice for 154 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: his arm looking great, like throwing the deep ball pretty well. 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: He's got the new motion. You're kind of excited to 156 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: see this new Cam. And now he's going to be 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: coming in to a brutal Week one matchup as it is, 158 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: with an injury. Even if he plays, you would think 159 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to limit him being their goal line, 160 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, back, which he essentially is in that time, 161 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: and you just hate like going into this season that way. 162 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: I don't blame him, though, like everyone said, like it 163 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: just shows you can't play your players in the preseason. 164 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like that that's a little too easy. 165 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Like certain teams, like every team is a little different, 166 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: certain teams believe that it's gonna help. If you're playing football, 167 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna be at risk. It's a bummer when they 168 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: get hurt in week one two, and it's not an 169 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: until it's gonna happen if you're playing football. The Patriots 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: thought it was important for Tom Brady to play football. 171 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I think he did too, And it's like everyone's gonna 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: make their own call. But that doesn't mean him. West 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: nailed it with the bad luck. But I mean because 174 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Newton he fractured a rib in a preseason game and 175 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: missed regular season action. To dance point, he's had a concussion. 176 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: He because I get there's some of these guys. I 177 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: like to call them just like a bug because they're 178 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: constantly getting the injury bug biting them left and right. 179 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: We're always talking about their injuries, a bug like he got. 180 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Then it's like it's December. He gets into a random 181 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: car accident. You got, that's bad luck. It's bad luck. 182 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. My point being is that the 183 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: car accent a perfect example. That's rotten luck. And yeah, 184 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: injuries sucking there rotten luck too. But when they start 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: to pile up for a guy that has plays a 186 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: certain way, I would just be starting to get nervous 187 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: if I was a Panthers fan. But he might want 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: to reconsider those glamour scooter shoots on his way to 189 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: the stadium for multiple reasons. And it is like you said, 190 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: he's got a very tough match up against the Rams, 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: greg And and it was a bummer watching a diminished 192 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: version of Newton labor through those last five or so 193 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: starts last season. And now you you have a situation 194 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: for the Panthers who just want to turn the page. 195 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: And now you might have a hobbled Newton in week one. 196 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of progress he makes as we 197 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: get closer to that Sunday. Moving on bad news on 198 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: the throne of Sleeves, Patriots safety Patrick Chung has been 199 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: indicted by a grand jury on a charge of cocaine possession. UH. 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: This and this occurred in Meredith, New Hampshire on June. 201 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: The felony arg is only one, UH charge Chung is facing. 202 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me, the felony charge is the only one Chung 203 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: is facing. UH. No other individuals involved. He has a 204 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: court date coming up. He doesn't have to appear at it. 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: His lawyer can appear on his behalf. That's uh in 206 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: August twenty arraignment. So we'll see how this gets sorted out. 207 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: But Greg Chung is an important, important part of that 208 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: defense and this is a pretty heavy off the field 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: situation be hanging over him. Yeah, it's unclear what it's 210 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna mean for his status. Whether could he be playing 211 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: week one, could he be suspended? Could he just be 212 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: away from the team for the whole Like, no one 213 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: has any idea. But to your point, a huge Patriots 214 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: fan who we all know, well, let's call him Burke, 215 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, texted me apoplectic after this, thinking that after Gilmore, 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore, and Tom Brady, that Patrick Chung might be 217 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the third most valuable Patriot Like, all right, let's calm 218 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: let's calm down there. I know, uh, he covers tight 219 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: ends well and he's versatile, but let's calm down with that. 220 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: It does mean though, that the Ron Harmon, who has 221 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: been a starter the last few years and some people 222 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: thought would maybe not make this team, might get traded 223 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: to one of those uh Patriots South or West. Uh. 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Coming out of camp looks like he'll make the team. 225 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of my takeaway, because they're gonna 226 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: need him now. I'll planning though, because it sounds like 227 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: from when you piece together the report that an alarm 228 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: went off for something that alerted the police who were 229 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: going there to help obviously and assist, and then bang, 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you know your house is not put together. There in 231 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the house checking on what like a burglar alarm, I 232 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: think to help the civilian that lives there instead the civilians. 233 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's about the cops give a little 234 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: wink Patrick, clean up the snow something like that. They 235 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: feel differently, MEREDITHA knows how it operates in New Hand 236 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: and get the snowplow out, backing off the grid. This 237 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: big lake, the biggest lake in New Hampshire, Meredith is, 238 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: is Lake Winnipesauke, and it gets kind of wild up 239 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: in up there. It does that, but and I don't 240 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: know enough about that. I'm not obviously making any comment 241 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: about Patrick Chung's guilt or innocence, but it is interesting 242 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: that I feel like every six to nine months there's 243 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: some like mega criminal charge connected to the New England patriots. 244 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: Here we just you know, connect the dots over the years. 245 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: I know everybody there's team players and front office officials 246 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: get in trouble from every organization. You've got quarterbacks you know, 247 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, dispensing their phones and dumpsters because they don't 248 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: want those to be examined. You know, it's it's abroad. 249 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I would just say take out the red string, you know, 250 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: the red string and criminal investigations, and then just go 251 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: basically year to year. It's gonna go through through line 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Man Hunter season three. Yes, no, maybe so great? What 253 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: that that that they get. There's been a lot. There's 254 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: been a lot of gates. There's been a lot of 255 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: you know stuff, but not to get more. And they've 256 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: checked all the boxes, like at the level from petty 257 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: mdemeanors to capital murder and everything in between, like stumbling 258 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: naked into a police station. That too, is the ones 259 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: that are more humor based. Okay, I'm gonna move on. 260 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: It's too bad. Chunk has been a great story. You know, 261 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: he left, he left home, he came back. He's won 262 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: three rings since he's been back. You know, he's been 263 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: much better since they originally cut him back in the 264 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: day or traded him. This is the deepest Patriots defense 265 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: I remembering years. They're gonna be good again. All right, 266 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: let's move on Michael Crabtree. He's back two weeks after 267 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: working out for the Cardinals. Left without a deal, the 268 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: veteran White out agrees to terms with Arizona on a 269 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: one year deal. He joins a group of receivers led 270 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: by veteran Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk, Keishawn Johnson, not keishn 271 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella, and Jakim Butler. Kevin White, the former Bears 272 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: first round pick he got cut. I guess that's crab 273 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Tree essentially replaces Kevin White on this depth chart. Crabtree 274 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: thirty one years old. Mark spent last season with the Ravens. 275 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Had a big role in the offense, at least until 276 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson showed up um and had six hundred and 277 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: seven yards receiving three re touchdowns. A guy that maybe 278 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: finds a way to catch the ball in the end zone, 279 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: but not the most explosive guy at this point of 280 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: his career. I mean, I I gather that they brought 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: him in initially a obviously he's available, but that he 282 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: played under Mike Leach at Texas Tech, so he's very 283 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: familiar with the offense. And I think you know, you 284 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: opened Cardinals camp and there was this buzz about Kevin 285 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: White and where Kevin might White might end up in 286 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: the offense. For us, it's all wait and see, and 287 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: he's gone. And they also lost to Keim Butler, so 288 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: there's there's a spot there. But the Keyshawn Johnson news 289 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: is interesting to me because it was Josh Wine Fuss 290 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: of ESPN that said he may have had the best 291 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: training camp of anyone on the Cardinals roster veteran or 292 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: rookie alike. So they need they need people to step 293 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: up and turn into glue for Kyler Murray right away. 294 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: He kesha Johnson's a six round rookie, very shifty, quick. 295 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: They want to play with four receivers, and this show 296 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: is why, you know, when we project the starters, I 297 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: do this, and you know fan cee owners are drafting 298 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. It's just like, well, they're gonna have four receivers, 299 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: and they like the college evaluation Andy Isabel, and they 300 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: like Kim Butler, and that's gonna be there for and 301 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: you just never know with rookies. Isabella just doesn't look 302 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: like he's ready to go and to me. This is 303 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: basically where we don't want to play this guy. We 304 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: like Keishawan Johnson, and Crabtree's gonna be in there, and 305 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: that's our top four with with Kirk and Fitzgerald. I'd 306 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: like to point out that in the last two off seasons, 307 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: the two teams with among the worst wide receiver corps 308 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: in the league have said the way to get better 309 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: is to get rid of Michael Crabtree, and now a 310 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: team with one of the worst wide receiver corps in 311 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: the NFL has said a way to get better is 312 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: to bring in my I think he can still play. 313 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: He's savvy though. You know, remember there was that report 314 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: where they couldn't get a deal done with Crabtree two 315 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: weeks ago. What has he done in between? He fired 316 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: his agent and then he hired the same agent who 317 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: represents Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury spot which seems like 318 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: a conflict of interest when you're representing the number one 319 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: overall picking the and the coach. And there's a lot 320 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: to that, you know, watching you agents, there's a lot 321 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: of young wide receivers on that roster and a young quarterback. 322 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, crab she feels like to me was Bill 323 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: Parcels coined it once upon a time progress stopper. Perhaps, 324 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: perhaps let's move on. It's also a big play stopper. Cowboys. 325 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys make a big deal, oh man, a big contract, 326 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: but not with one of the players you might expect. 327 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: They reached agreement on a long term deal earlier this 328 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: week with linebacker Jalen Smith. The Cowboys made the deal 329 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: official after a rap sheet report. UH. Steven Jones said 330 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday of the extension is for five years and it's 331 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: worth sixty four million, including thirty half thirty five and 332 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: a half million guaranteed. He's under contract through the season. 333 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: If you're a listener of this podcast, you've heard Chris 334 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Westling singing the praises of Smith all throughout the eighteen season. 335 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: And he's such a great story. After what happened at 336 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: Notre Dame where he was he looked like a stone cold, 337 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: top five pick suffers terrible knee injury and you never 338 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: you're not sure if he's ever gonna be able to 339 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. UH. It does affect his draft stock, 340 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: but the Cowboys took a chance to us. They took 341 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: him high in the second round. UH. He sat out 342 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: his rookie year and became one of the best livebackers 343 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: in football. Yeah, it's a great story. At one point 344 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: he had dropped foot syndrome and he could barely he 345 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: had no range of motion in his lower leg. It's 346 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: an amazing story. Nobody thought that he was going to 347 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: come back and be one of the best linebackers in football, 348 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: which he was for the last few months of last 349 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: season along with Layton Vandersh. He's a guy that you 350 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: could tell even in his second but definitely last year, 351 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: his third year, he's such a leader for that team 352 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: that he's an impressive human. He talked right and and 353 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in training camp the just the way that 354 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: they would talk about it. Even in his even in 355 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: his second year, you could just tell the influence he 356 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: has over all them and the way he approaches and 357 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the kind of the joy he has and the way 358 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: he talks about Layton Vandersch and the two of them 359 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: seem like just a perfect pair to to sign forever. 360 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: And I saw some criticism that's like, you know, this 361 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: is a relatively team friendly deal, like he could have 362 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: gotten more money if you waited out, Like this is 363 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: a guy who had his entire career flash before his eyes. 364 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: Is happy to have it. He's two years away from 365 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: free agency, and I hate that where you're like trying 366 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: to get into someone else's money, saying that you should 367 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: have tried to get more money. It's like he's his 368 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: generations are are secured for you know, his son's and 369 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: his you know, in the next generation after that. Like, 370 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: don't don't tell people not to sign a big contract 371 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: if they want to shut up. And I mean the Cowboys, 372 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: you know. I can't think of a team in a 373 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: person more than Jerry Jones, who was attracted to high risk, 374 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: high reward draft picks and they aren't like Randy Gregory 375 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: not working out at this point and the essentially you 376 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: could look at him and say, maybe you you stretched 377 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: on that one. But this was viewed that way too, 378 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: and it has worked out beautifully. And I like a 379 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: team that once you find that position group that is stacked, 380 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: you don't decide we're gonna keep one, move someone else 381 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: and go lower money at the position. So a lot 382 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: of teams do that and their general managers can't figure 383 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: out a way to keep all these guys keep this 384 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: group together. The defense has gotten so much better. And 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: I'll give Smith the last word because in his press 386 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: conference he said, pointing back to the Cowboys essentially taking 387 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: that risk on him in the second round, Here's what 388 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: he had to say. He took a risk, um, you know, 389 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: UH four point five million dollar risk, you know, had 390 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: I've never been able to play again, So me understanding 391 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: that it was my duty for them, UM to get 392 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: the return on their investment. And they've been able to 393 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: do that. And you know now fortunate enough to UH 394 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: to to really be a cowboy for life. Is this what? 395 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: It's what I wanted. It's a good story. I like 396 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: those stories. Now cowboys keep doing work, so don't have 397 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: to talk about contracts anymore. And three more to discuss. 398 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: It's not going away tonight. UH. Injury news from the 399 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: preseason UH Drew Lock on Monday Night Football preseason Edition 400 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: sprained UM his throwing hand and that's gonna cost him 401 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: a lot of time. It sets back the Broncos um 402 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: second round rookie UH to the point where he could 403 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: start the season on I are boomerang? Is that right? Mark? Yes? 404 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: But I hear some fleaks. Some people are saying I 405 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: I prefer I are a boomerang, And people are telling 406 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: me that they like boomerang. I are that that rolls 407 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: off to that sounded better person. I like Again, it 408 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: only goes back to the fact that it's not sticking 409 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: on any level as a true term because people can't 410 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: even describe what it's happening, Like Erica, if you can 411 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: describe in you know, thirty words or less, what is 412 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I are boomerang? Put it on the spot, well, like 413 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: in football terms. Yes, it's like people that bounce off 414 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: and on the injury report. I mean that's about She's 415 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: very close. It's like a new it's like a new 416 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: role for new listeners. You know, injured reserve used to 417 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: mean you're out for the season, but now you can 418 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: put a player on injured reserve and they can come 419 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: back as early as I believe weeks is the earliest. 420 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: But isn't it two players now? Yeah, you can do 421 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: two players now that and that is I R boomerang. 422 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: I believe you said bounce back. And it's sort of 423 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: like the idea that the boomerang, you're sending them far 424 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: out of field and you know, if it's not our frisbee, 425 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that that that things in the woods. This is almost 426 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: like it almost takes Vic Fangio and John Elway off 427 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: the hook because it would have been embarrassing when Kevin 428 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Helgan was their backup week one, which I think 429 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: he would have been. Whether Lock was hurt or not, 430 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that for sure, but 431 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: I just think luck. One of my takeaways from this, 432 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: you know, uh, preseason is just there. You know, Joe 433 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Flacco was playing this season, I would have thought, right, 434 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: but even if the rest of the team is terrible 435 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: or if some you know, if he doesn't play as well, 436 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: if they were like one in three, I would have expected. Okay, 437 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: now everyone's gonna be talking Lock Locks not playing until 438 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: it's week sixteen, and if the Broncos are out of it, Like, 439 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think there's any change I'm saying. 440 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: If you know, boomerang, boomerang are sort of like a 441 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: side piece. You can keep them there, you know, you 442 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of keep them out of the limelight. You don't, 443 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, sorry for a while, right, but then you 444 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: know what they say West they always you can always 445 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: dig them back up and always dig it back up. 446 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Side piece, and someone buries Yard like because it doesn't 447 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: cost you all this money, right, it doesn't. You know, 448 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: you're not You're not going out to dinner every week. Yeah, 449 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: you're not going out to dinner every week. They can 450 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: cost money, I would have. I mean they're they're paid 451 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: a full salary, so it breaks down a little there. 452 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: But by the way, has anyone ever seen they come back? 453 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever seen someone successfully throw a boomerang? It's impossible. 454 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I owned one as a child. Did you ever throw 455 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: it and it came back to you? Or even now? 456 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: You can basically go straight and then hooks right and 457 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: then lands about thirty seven feet away from me. You're 458 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: running now. They suck And Australian listeners you know it too. 459 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, over under onets you're gonna 460 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: get from Australia, right, and I it's another reminder of 461 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: how much better life is just in general, just in 462 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: terms of like quality of life now than than before 463 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: in most of the world. That's about all the mental now, 464 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: there's a lot. At some point though, when they invented 465 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the boomerang, it's like, Wow, that's the best entertainment option 466 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: we've got, Like this is the biggest revolution that you 467 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: know we've had it entertainment in decades. It was a hunting, 468 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: hunting tool, I believe, So it's for sustenance and surviving 469 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: with facts. Finally in the news, step behind the red velvet, 470 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Gentleman Matt Naggy's back in the headlines for all the 471 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: wrong reasons. We've been tracking this. I mean, no podcast 472 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: has been hitting this story harder. How the Bears have 473 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: been handling their search for a kicker After the double doink, 474 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: Cody Parky s I drops a hammer. I don't know 475 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: if you guys had a chance to read this. It's 476 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: required reading if this is a saga that interests you, uh, 477 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: really digging in on what exactly the Bears have done 478 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: uh this offseason? They brought in nine kickers nine kickers, 479 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: brought him in like cattle for slaughter, and herded them 480 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: together and used the bizarre scoring system that byzantine is 481 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: that working to try to explain how they were progressing, 482 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: and then cut them at will, had little notes, humiliated 483 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: them and didn't treat them like football players. And then 484 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: they were left with four and now we're down to one. 485 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: Poor poor guy. Who's the last guy who I'm really 486 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: scared for? I don't think he's going to be their 487 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: week one kicker. And a competition usually you bring in 488 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: like at most three or four kickers if you're really looking. 489 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: The Bears brought in nine and and it's a really 490 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: great story about in some way draconian, dude, this is 491 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: it was all the kickers, like an old Hollywood casting call. 492 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: If you can't take the pressure of a kicking competition, 493 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do with five seconds on 494 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: the cloth? Here's what Notre Dame's justin you and while 495 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: you're in lockstep with Matt Naggie. But everybody else thought 496 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. I was connected to it, justin you, 497 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: And a kicker for Notre Dame had this to say, 498 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: it's not efficient for the team to continuously beat that 499 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: one dead horse the whole time. You have to build 500 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: a system of confidence for your kicker. I don't think 501 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: that's how the Bears are running it. And and shout 502 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: out to you and for actually speaking out a lot 503 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: of other kickers. They and they spoke anonymously. You know 504 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: he's there are other Bears kickers. If you go look 505 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: around their comments, I think what they're what they were 506 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: sort of saying in general, as camp press On was 507 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: exhaustion with the day to day pressure, with the forty 508 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: three yards stuff, augusta silence. How soft are these I'm 509 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: not arguing that they're not. I know that's what that's 510 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: the point. But Bill Parcels used to walk up the 511 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: Vinitary as a rookie and start putting voodoo on him 512 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: and walking across his path in the It's a results business, 513 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: and the Bears coaches have gotten terrible results, So shouldn't 514 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: they bear some blame here that whatever they're doing? Five 515 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: million dollars? Yeah, someone should have signed your buddy Myers. 516 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: He was available with Jason Meyers. Can we do that? 517 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Can we start some games before we say it's not working? 518 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: That's fair? I don't well, my point is this whole 519 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: process isn't working, because if I could, I would. I'm 520 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: guessing none of these players will play for the Bears 521 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: in a regular season game, including Nettie panierro their their 522 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: their kicker will be someone that's on another roster. Yeah, 523 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: because then you are how much money if you sunk 524 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: into airline flights and hotels and all this other and 525 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: you're just gonna take Matt Ryan off the golf course 526 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: in a week. Why is it? Why is it Matt 527 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: Bryan playing for anybody? I don't know. I didn't want 528 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: to bring up some of the Jets to quietly sign him, 529 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: but you know I have a responsibility listeners to mention 530 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: that he would make sense. So you think your influence 531 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: is that great that audience keep stayed. Front office men 532 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: in the Bears complex are now going to figure out 533 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: that Matt Bryan's available. Well, him going to Floren Park. 534 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the new is all right? Let's 535 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: do some quick preseason Thursday takeaways. I am so tired 536 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: of preseason and I respect you guys if you have 537 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: a ton of notes to share on this, and we 538 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: could do a beefy twenty minutes segment on the seven 539 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: games that were played last night. Um, but I'm not 540 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna share it too much, so I'm gonna let you 541 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: guys handle the bulk of this. Greg get us going. 542 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: What was something from the Thursday? Please? Week one? You know, 543 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: there was a very significant development in the Redskins game, 544 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: which is that Darius guys played football at the pro 545 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: level for the first time and looked good. And that 546 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: is a big step for a guy who still hadn't 547 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: been cleared until this week to to be in a 548 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: game and and looked like kind of the Darius guys 549 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: that we saw in highlights in college. I mean there, 550 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he looked great, but there were enough 551 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: to build off of for a first appearance that you're like, Okay, 552 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a factor week one. That's a big 553 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: That was a big develop. There were a couple of 554 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: runs where I wondered if his speed was all there, 555 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: but he laid a nasty, stiff farm on someone. They 556 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: gave him the first six carries and eleven you know all, 557 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: and they gave him a catch. And for me, after 558 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about him, you annoyed what behind 559 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: the scenes, how hard they're working to get their body back. 560 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: And it's a good story for a team that his 561 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: weapons depleted, a team that could use some you know, 562 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: good news, a team that lost a tight end last night. 563 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, we joke about when I make my jokes 564 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: about Tyler Eifford and how I believe in him and 565 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: he gets hurt every year, So don't take them seriously. 566 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: With Jordan Reid, I mean, and I hope this isn't 567 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: a serious head injury has well. I mean, that was 568 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: one of the worst hits I've ever seen a player 569 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: take to head I think any player. I mean, I 570 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: feel really bad for him. And I've seen some joking 571 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Jordan read stuff today, but like, that was a vicious 572 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: brain injury. And he's had He's had a lot of them. 573 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: But man, that was a tough hit to watch on 574 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: replay and in the preseason games. Uh we Mark and 575 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: I can tag team this one because we both watched 576 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars Dolphins and um, I thought that Josh Allen the 577 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Jaguar is number one pick there are there may be 578 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: a couple of teams regretting not drafting him. He is 579 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a huge player. The size speed combination is is very impressive. 580 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: And he to me, he looked, like I told Mark, 581 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: like a roadhouse bouncer during the middle of a midnight melee, 582 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: just hip tossing guys out the saloon doors while somebody's 583 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: breaking a chair over his back. He's just going through 584 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins offensive line like they weren't there. Yes, I 585 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: and I you know, and I for me, I have 586 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: question marks about how the John D. Philippo and Nick 587 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Foles um offense is gonna work in their overall Doug 588 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: Marown world and everything that you know. Leonard Fournette looked 589 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: good last night, I thought, which was which was a 590 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: nice development. But they're gonna need to keep restocking defense 591 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: over and over. And Josh Allen, there's a play if 592 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: you can go find this on Twitter. Obviously you're playing 593 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: us at the listener anymore. Who heard that? You know 594 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: there is a Dolphins right side of the line with 595 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Davis and Dion Calhoun, two guys that just got 596 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: absolutely Josh Allen just to kind of both of them 597 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: with his arms and just swept them aside and buried 598 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: a running back like nine yards in the backfield. This 599 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: is a guy that I think anyone who drafted anyone 600 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: else above him, and the all the reasons to pick 601 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: who they did are going to be measured by how 602 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen does in the in The most impressive plate 603 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: to me was one where he flexed out and covered 604 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: a running back in the passing and I think it 605 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: was Kalen Blaje and destroyed him. And you just don't 606 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: see that from guys that are essentially playing a defensive 607 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: line and the the announcer kept making forget who was 608 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: a good point that Alan's gonna change up the way 609 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: they do defense because they're always very traditional for three. 610 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: But he's more of a stand up guy and when 611 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: he's out there, it just makes him more flexible. And 612 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: not as if that defense needed any more. Good news 613 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: be fun when Josh. When Josh Rosen led that third 614 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: team play ninety nine yard drive, which was impressive, I thought, 615 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: all right, that's cool, and I'll do it with Josh 616 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: Allen out there. Right, Josh Rosen has gotten some pop 617 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and we'll switch into that last few weeks. And he's man. 618 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: He makes I said this even in Arizona, he makes 619 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: some really impressive of throws and he did that in 620 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: this game. But I didn't watch the game and think 621 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: all like, oh, Josh Rosen made his move is it's 622 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: one drive and it was against the backups. And Fitzpatrick 623 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: has not looked sharp in the preseason, which is worth noting. 624 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: But Flora's seems to have already decided based on practices 625 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: that there really isn't a competition. And Troy Aikman you 626 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: tweeted about, I mean, Troy Aikman made a comment and 627 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, you obviously he's hearing stuff and spending time 628 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: with the coaches. That it made it sound like Josh 629 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: Rosen just has not really grasped the offense or picked 630 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: it up the way that you'd want him to, and 631 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: that they just feel more comfortable, and that Ryan Fitzpatrick 632 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: has looked bad in games, but the whole Fitzpatrick experience 633 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: has the coaching staff feeling much more comfortable. I read behind, 634 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: I read his I read his comment and basically said 635 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's starting week one barring him getting you know, like 636 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: a rock landing on him from the sky. You get 637 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: the vibe that there's still hopefully not too big. You 638 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: get the vibe that he the baggage connected to him 639 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: is still there. Charlie Casserley, Uh, you know our own 640 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: Charlie Castle, who was on the show. We didn't get 641 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: a chance to talk about it, but Charlie made news 642 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: UM earlier this year UM for making critical comments or 643 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: based on a conversation he had on Josh Rosen. And 644 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, you wonder if he's gonna get it Rosen, 645 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: but he's gonna start, right, he mean eventually, and he 646 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: has made some great throws and Aikman, who you know 647 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: his has seen in Rosen play a lot u c 648 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: l A Grant. I mean he said he thinks he's 649 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: one of the most talented throwers he's ever seen period. 650 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Roen just coming from Choi Aikman, and I can kind 651 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: of see why you would say that. Man, he has 652 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: he has two or three every game that are just 653 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: their unbelievable play. So at some point they're just gonna 654 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: want to see that. That offensive line looks so bad 655 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: that I don't know there, no one's gonna succeed there. 656 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: He's like the most mobile guy, and but he made 657 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: a nice throw and he kind of rolled out and 658 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: put one right in the receiver's hands, rolled to his right. Uh. Yeah, 659 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: the tools are definitely there. Speaking of tools, the young 660 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Daniel Joe continues to look really good for the 661 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Giants Danny Dines, which is nice. I saw that to 662 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: pop up. Uh, and you know he's twenty five or thirty. 663 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: He don't read too much into preseason stats, obviously, but 664 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: thirty three sixty two touchdowns. He's lost some fumbles, but 665 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: hasn't thrown an interception, taken two sacks, and Eli's barely 666 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: played and this is the best possible outcome for Daniel Jones. 667 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: What's happened the last three weeks that he is planted 668 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: that seed now in not just Pat Shermer's mind, but 669 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: all the way up the front office chain, that you've 670 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: got a kid here that looks like he can handle it, 671 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: like he is not. You're not hearing any reports about 672 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Uh, he's not. He's too raw, he's not 673 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: ready yet. And on the field he doesn't look that way. 674 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it with when you'll take 675 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: a look at the last let's say, you know, a 676 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: year and a half now, when the Giants made the 677 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: decision to take se Kwon Barkley, UM and Sam Donald 678 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: went the next pick to the Yets. And if Donald 679 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: turns into an All Pro and wins the Super Bowl 680 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: and UM all that, the Giants will always look bad. 681 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: But you know what if Barkley, who has all the 682 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: tools to be a Hall of Fame running back, let's 683 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: face it, and he had the best rookie year arguably 684 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: of any running back ever last year. If even if 685 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is what Andy Dalton, you can't really kill 686 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: the Giants for the decision they made if Barkley is 687 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: as special as that, if you went the next year 688 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: and got a quarterback who can be good to pair 689 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: with a potential all time running back. And I don't 690 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: want to get to hyperbolic there, maybe they didn't mess 691 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: it up so bad. Well Barkley is Jim Brown, for instance, 692 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: then okay, you're gonna look back and say, no one. 693 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone says that Barkley is the suspect 694 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: part of what they did. It was just not planning 695 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: around the quarterback or hoping that they looked into one 696 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: this year. If Daniel Jones works out, it's Dave Getleman, 697 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: and we already you know, there's already the jokes out 698 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter, which make a lot of sense about Dave 699 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: Getleman sitting back in his easy chair in his office 700 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: saying f you to essentially Mike Francesca and every single 701 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: media person ever that ripped on me. He's got to 702 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: enjoy it, like I'm kind of a Daniel Jones makes 703 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 1: the Giants more fun to watch. One of the things 704 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I liked in this game because he's had really good 705 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: past protection in general, and so quarterbacks are gonna look 706 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: better that way. But he did have a couple of 707 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: throws against pressure in this game, and he's not afraid 708 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: to just rip it there down thirty five yards with 709 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: pressure in his face, and it almost makes it made 710 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: me think about that. I I think I've been a 711 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: little anti Giants over the years on this podcast, But um, 712 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: I think once the Daniel Jones era starts, that's all 713 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: over and I'm gonna enjoy Dave Gentelman just like bringing 714 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: up the Daniel Jones draft pick in every conversation and 715 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: talking trash to basically every reporter forever if that happens, 716 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: and you'd be delightful. And I think that, you know, 717 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: you can talk about him all day, but you mentioned it. 718 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: Their line, You've got Kevin Zeidler, Will Hernandez. Looks like 719 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: they've found someone very stable for long. Their line was 720 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: such a disaster for so along that he stepped in 721 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: at the perfect time. They So there's a problem, though, 722 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: I think that's under the range was given him the business. 723 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: There was a sequence with Jones where he completed a 724 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: downfield pass about thirty five yards, then got wallped, got 725 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: destroyed on like almost like a double hit from each 726 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: side lost the ball got up and then one or 727 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: two plays later, Standard stood tall in the pocket and 728 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: put one right down to the goal line that led 729 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to a touchdown. Like that stuff is pretty impressive. One 730 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: note on Eli. I think it's worth noting that David Deal, 731 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: former Giants offensive lineman, told Anthony Monio's current Bengals UH 732 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: analyst that he hasn't seen Eli throw with this much 733 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: velocity in a number of years. I feel like some 734 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: former Giant Eli teammates says that every I mean, but 735 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: every quarterback is getting that compliment this summer. It's got 736 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: a little hair as like it looks, you know, but 737 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: then you watch you watch anything he's throwing deep, and 738 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: then you watch Daniel Jones, and who do you want 739 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: anybody else throw out? I would say, I looked at 740 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: the Raven Eagles game, and who knows what's going to 741 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: happen with either one of these quarterbacks this year. But 742 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: it was interesting to watch the journey of my boy, 743 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: Trace McSorley, who I've brought up a few times on 744 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: this show. Number One, I love what the Ravens did here. 745 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: There was one play in the very early part of 746 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: the game where they essentially handed it off to later 747 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: a running back to Justice Hill where on a play 748 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: where they had three offensive linemen in front of him 749 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: and six people like split out wide. The plague totally failed, 750 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: but I loved it. But McSorley in general like looked 751 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: interesting to me enough where I think you could find 752 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: ways to use him to some degree on the field 753 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: in places. If you were going to do that with 754 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: r G three, I would rather do it try it 755 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: with Trace. McSorley at this point made the team last night. 756 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 1: He should have. And then I think on the other side, 757 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: Josh McCown, it kind of just shows you that, I mean, 758 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: there was a play where at some point they feel 759 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: like in four or five days he's learned the protections 760 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: and the entire scheme to such a degree and audibles 761 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: that he did so much pre snap that he walked 762 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: over during a time out to the sideline and Carson 763 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: Wentz and the coaches were all giggling with him because 764 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't believe how much he picked up and that 765 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: you can just roam around network television for a while 766 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: or cable television and then if you've done this long enough, 767 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: roll back into a team and unfurled two hundreds something 768 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: yards and make J. J. R Sego Whiteside look like 769 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: he should be on the first team offense quarterback, right, 770 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but McCown still has it. And it makes 771 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: me wonder either some of the backups around the league 772 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: and say, you did not yank Josh McCown had retirement. 773 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: Some of these clowns roaming. You got Kevin Hogan? Please, 774 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: he played against first team or his last year and 775 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore. I'm not saying Josh Josh McCown is 776 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: always going to be Josh McCown, though he's going to 777 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: come in and do something. I love Josh McCown some 778 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: bad things the right. His first three drives last night, 779 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: it looked like he should have stayed in retirement, and 780 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he caught fire. If the 781 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: Eagles front office decided to do it, they're front office 782 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: side by in two right now. And so I like 783 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: the move. I am wary of UH. I hate the move. 784 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm wary of buying into UH any preseason, 785 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: but this does look like the best Patriots defensive a 786 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: little while, and in that game. Again, it's the preseason. 787 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: But if Cam Newton hadn't got hurt, the story would 788 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: have been. You know, the Panthers starting offense got steam rolled. 789 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: They had They averaged less than two yards per play 790 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: against the Patriots when the two starters were out there 791 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: like they were just guys are flying all over and 792 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: it's guys who have been in the system a long time, 793 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: and it's a very deep secondary. I think Belichick is 794 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: loving that he's the coordinator for this specific defense because 795 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: I think they're primed. Can I ask one question, why 796 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: are we going up to uh is it the Ottawa 797 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: Blue Bombers field and finding out hours before the game 798 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: that the NFL teams don't like where the end zona's 799 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: position and suddenly we're playing an NFL preseason game on 800 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: an eight yard field that looks somewhat suspect to begin with. 801 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: I know there's probably people even inside this building that 802 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: would be annoyed in bringing that up, But like, why 803 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: aren't we three or four months ahead of times scoping 804 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: that out and saying this is appropriate and we have 805 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: teams sign off or we don't. I was like, are 806 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: they going to count the stats from this game? This 807 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. They're played on an eight yard and this 808 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: comes what this comes a year after Mexico City fiasco 809 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: where the field was wet so they couldn't get it 810 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: safe enough for the players, I mean the Packers for 811 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: for those who hadn't heard the story, they were going 812 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: to play their starters in this game. The Raiders were 813 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: not anyways, but they decided not to because of this 814 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: ad yard funky. The Packers lost first round linebacker Rashaun Garrett. Well, 815 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: we don't know how serious it is, but carted off 816 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: the field? Can I do it real quickly? Round field? 817 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley, Bengals quarterback. I think they have something impressive there. 818 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: They've got something interesting behind Andy Dalton, he has looked 819 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: really good three weeks in a row. Accurate, savvy um 820 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown Ravens rookie first rounder back in plane finally 821 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: looked pretty good And my favorite thing of the preseason 822 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: so far. Matt Millen back in the booth. This we 823 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: thought he was on death doorstep. He was, to quote 824 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: damnit Scheck, not just surviving but living. He's dropping lines 825 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: like h like later Raiders linebackers drop in interceptions, and 826 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: he says, I got I've seen better hands on the clock. 827 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: A great broadcaster, and it annoys me, of course, he's 828 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: going to be remembered for his time as the general manager, 829 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: and he's gone to college in terms of broadcasting. But 830 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: people are like, why should we listen to Matt Millan? 831 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Like as it brought, It's like, well, what does a 832 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: lot of broadcasting? It doesn't mean that you're not a 833 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: smart person who's really good. He's always been one of 834 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: my favorite announcers. It's a different skill set. Matt Millen 835 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: got a heart transplant. You cannot be closer to death 836 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: store than when you you literally have your heart taken 837 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: out of your body and you're given the heart of 838 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: another human being. That's pretty cool living up Matt Millan. 839 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: By the way, it is Winnipeg, not Ottawa. For the 840 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: people in Canada that we're about to tweeted me don't 841 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: want to hear about it. It can love Cannada, beautiful nation. 842 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the preseason. Let's go Week one. 843 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: Get here. Greg wrote a banger, There's no two ways 844 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: around it. Two thousand nine. Here's the headline NFL dot 845 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Com The headlines, what is it? You had something to 846 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: do with it? Two thousand nineteen NFL preseason Colon training 847 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: Camp Surprises for all thirty two teams like that a 848 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: little bit s c oh, but quite direct. Uh. So 849 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: you went through every team you threw out a surprise. So, Greg, 850 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: why don't you kind of steer the ship here with 851 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: of your list of thirty two surprises? And actually, if 852 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: you if you read the piece, Mark, did you read it? 853 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I know you did outline this highlights highlight this guy's 854 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: prepped start fired today, Mark Um, if you read it 855 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: the way, Mark, did you know you get more than 856 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: thirty two surprises? Hereses, I'd say there are fifty seven 857 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: surprises bridged id let's say forty six to fifty seven 858 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: surprises in this content. Greg, that list of seven, what 859 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: were some of yours that you like the most? Were 860 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: the most interesting intriguing? Well, Quentin Williams is start at 861 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: nose tackle didn't take According to Connor Hughes of the Athletic. 862 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, they thought they'd huge start inside between Henry 863 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: Anderson uh and Leonard Williams, and I think they've decided 864 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: that's not his best position. I don't think this is 865 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: a huge deal, but I think he's gonna probably start 866 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 1: the year rotating, you know, maybe coming off the bench, 867 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: which to me was a little bit of a surprise 868 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: learning that, and they're waiting. Doesn't mean he hasn't looked 869 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: good in in the preseason, but he's not going to 870 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: be a guy who just steps out there and is 871 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: playing fifty snaps. Maybe trade Leonard Williams to the Texans 872 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: for Jadeveon Clowney and then slide over Quentin Williams to 873 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: the end. Or he could play every snap and then 874 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: you have a game changing clowning in the mix as well. 875 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: It's not that crazy. I've warm it up to your 876 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: trade idea. How many defensive linemen are they gonna move 877 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: over the course of four or five years? That's what 878 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 1: they do. There's a chur and it's an there's always 879 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: chur And in the NFL, mark exact lest year the 880 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys and you resigned the entire position group and stay 881 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: strong for the next six seven years. What was that? 882 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: The sons of anarchy? What Wilkerson? Richard? Oh yeah, yes, 883 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: that was it? Grown up and moved on? What else, Craig? 884 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: How about DJ Chark? Remember him in the first round 885 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: pick of the Jaguars a year ago, who had kind 886 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: of a disastrous wasn't at the top of the second round. Uh, 887 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: he is now one of their top three receivers. They 888 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: came into the season knowing who their top three receivers are, 889 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: and it doesn't include Marquise Lee, and it doesn't include 890 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: Keelan Cole who we used to uh, you know write 891 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: Hosan is about the bank on this podcast. And so 892 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: it's now Chris Conley he used to be with Kansas City. 893 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: It's d D. Westbrook who Uh, Mark's boy John D. 894 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: Philippo said is the best route runner he's ever coached, 895 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: which includes Stefon Diggs and Adam is in your stable 896 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: of boys Mark in two no reason not to think 897 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. And uh, it's d J. Chark 898 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: who ESPN called their preseason training camp m v P. 899 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: So he kind of came out of nowhere and he's 900 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: going to have a role in there. Speaking of a 901 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: preseason and training camp m vps. And this was a 902 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: bit of a saucy subject on the Fantasy Extravaganza. Both 903 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: The Athletic and ESPN named the Shawan Jackson the Eagles 904 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: training Camp m v P, which Greg Astuteley points out 905 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: not a sentence he expected to write in nineteen Um 906 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: is it possible that we get a vintage D Jacks. Yes, 907 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: I have. I think him in Tampa last year. He's 908 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: been so underrated that he's looked like the same de 909 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Jackson the whole time. But Jameis Winston is not 910 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: great throwing the deep ball, and that just wasn't a 911 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: very good offense in general, and that he's looked really good. 912 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: That's my opinion. What is a vintage D ject season. 913 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up. While you guys argue eight 914 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: yards four touched him at his peak, he was a 915 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: guy who could average eighteen to twenty yards per sept. 916 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: He's just I can't remember a guy that old fast. 917 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I mean Darryl Green. Certainly there, there's certainly been something, 918 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: but man, he hasn't lost any speed. He led the 919 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: NFL in yards perception last year at eighteen point nine 920 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 1: over one catches. Dan, I think you're not you're gonna 921 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: like that. This is out there. This caught my eye. 922 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: Down in Carolina, a long time Panthers veteran kicker Graham 923 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: Gano could lose his job to someone named Joey Sly. 924 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: Sounds fake, which is an even bigger surprise than cam 925 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: Newton's deep all reported looking better than ever during camp 926 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: until we say, you're welcome on the kicking corner. But 927 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: I want to keep these good kickers are gonna get 928 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: You need a hush hush off the radar. And I 929 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: was gonna be kicking for the Bears, right, one of 930 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: these guys is for the Bears. You know, maybe I 931 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind the brows of you guys gonna have Sam ficking. 932 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to. And maybe it's is someone got 933 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: a trade for Sly who has preparedively. Heesless looked so good, 934 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: and Goo had a pretty iffy year last year. And 935 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: I was just not healthy yet. That's that's part to 936 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: the issue. Slide's got a leg. I want that's a 937 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: good jersey, Joey Slack, that's a great what happened a 938 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: great name? Who do you want? Sam Ficken? Joey Sly? 939 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: You could trust him. He'll get the job done. Maybe 940 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: can't trust him actually, but you know he'll get it done. 941 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: He'll get what he wants. Right. I think it was 942 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: good that you noted all these for like the third 943 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: or fourth year in a real this pile up of 944 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: maladies and injuries in San Francisco. It feels I feel 945 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: like ten years from now we're gonna get um, like 946 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: an Aaron Brockovich type movie about what is happening to 947 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: the drinking water around the facility. I mean it's it's 948 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: like something is going on here and it's ridiculous. I mean, 949 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: something unusual is one. That's the football movie we need. Uh. 950 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: You know Carlos Hide not so long ago, was you know, 951 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: the golden Boy in San Francisco and didn't work out 952 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and bounced around. And now Greg I'm quite 953 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: a surprise potentially that he might not even make the 954 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: final fifty three in Kansas City. Gave him eight hundred 955 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: thousand guaranteed. And this is where our editors, you know, 956 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: Gennaro Police, what a great jot or I had the 957 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 1: wrong signed bonus. He just he just fixed it. Didn't 958 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: even say brag about it. I noticed that when I 959 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: reread it, I was like, oh, sorry, he got they 960 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: got there almost a million dollars. And Darwin Thompson and 961 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: former cornerback Traymont Smith, who's like a special teamer who 962 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: converted to running back just a few weeks ago, is 963 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: going to make the team over Carlos Side. It's a 964 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: bad sign if you're Carlos Side. Quick breaking news, breaking news. 965 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood Taylor Luan, who the All Pro Titans left tackle, 966 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: who made it in passionate plea when word got out 967 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: that he was going to be suspended for violating the 968 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: league's performance enhancing UH substances policy. Well, it didn't work out. 969 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: His his appeal to the league didn't change anything, so 970 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: he's he's out. The first four games of the twenty 971 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: s did a light detector test, which many people apparently 972 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: don't believe it. Also, if you, I mean I understand 973 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: scientifically run up on teller Luan at all. I mean 974 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: I know many facts. There are some interesting facts about 975 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 1: the tailor one out there. I'm just saying I don't 976 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: know the guys. I believe it was an impassioned plea. 977 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: Have you watched the current season of Mind Hunter? Uh, 978 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: I will be doing that soon. One of the serial 979 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: killers they find a book stash in his in his 980 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: drawer how to beat a light detector test, and then 981 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: he proceeded to beat the lot of lot of tector tests. Um, 982 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: let's go on, Greg, how about the Steelers defense? I 983 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: went west to jump in here too. Let's talk some 984 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: Sam Aguavin. Okay, now you know how to say his name, Sam, Well, yeah, 985 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: he's been running with the starters the Dolphins. This guy's 986 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: while Kiko Alonso is out with an undisclosed injury and 987 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: Greg has opined may not even make the team. Sam Aguavin, 988 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: former CFL player, is playing alongside Sam Baker, who looks 989 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, Jerome Baker who looked Yeah, he had 990 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: Jerome break game and he's supposedly look good. This is 991 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: what happens when new coaches come in. Sometimes there they 992 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: had a second round, picking Rae Kwon McMillan, who might 993 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: not make the team, Kiko Alonso, who is kind of, 994 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, with the old regime, and they've got their 995 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: their new guys. If nothing else, they gotta try some 996 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: young players and see what happens. Kigo Alonso is kind 997 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: of a good villain to have on your team. He's 998 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: a he's an esther. I could see him landing with 999 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders about three weeks. How about the Steelers defensive back. 1000 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that's been a trouble spot forever and 1001 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: maybe this is just camp pipe Like I'm not too 1002 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: excited about Steven Nelson, who they gave a lot of 1003 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: money to was a Chief's cornerback. But they they're saying 1004 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: Cameron Sutton and Already Burns, who are two pretty high 1005 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: draft picks, both had really good camps, especially Sutton, and 1006 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: that Edmunds, their safety who was their first round pick 1007 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: a year a go to, is really coming out in 1008 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: his second year. Joe Hayden, who they've really loved. I 1009 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: think they're going to give him a long term contract. Uh, 1010 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: since he's been in Pittsburgh. Suddenly that secondary looks pretty good. 1011 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin has the has the defense, Like, why is 1012 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: this defense not good? It should be really good. I 1013 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's like, there's no excuse for 1014 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: it not to be a top eight to ten defense. 1015 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: I think it's really talented. People are very annoyed with 1016 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: our ability to constantly bag on the Detroit Lions. But 1017 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: you didn't note that Matthew Stafford's practice reports, et cetera 1018 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: have been up and down. It's throwing with a lot 1019 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: of zip this summer. Well, where are we are we 1020 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 1: feeling good? I mean, I don't know what to expect. 1021 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: It's Darryl Bevil, who's kind who changes his offenses depending 1022 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: on what team. He said, but that they've just been 1023 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, you had those joint practices with the Patriots 1024 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: Stafford and just in general, the writers there have just 1025 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: been saying that the offense just hasn't had a going 1026 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 1: and you worry about that a little bit with a 1027 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. Are we sure they've shown up the camp yet? 1028 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: That I was a few years ago. You've gotten on 1029 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 1: them for not showing us. Have we seen their first 1030 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: team offense at all? They didn't, Yeah, and they didn't 1031 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: were Their first team defensive line is just now getting 1032 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: back healthy. Almost all of those guys have been heard 1033 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: at some point. Well, they're playing the Cardinals in Week one, 1034 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: so we know that Arizona is keeping it under wraps. 1035 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: Detroit saying we're gonna do the same thing. We're not 1036 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna show you anything, and we're gonna unveil our mess massively, 1037 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: run heavy offense and surprise you just as much Cardinals defense. 1038 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: And you know what the Cardinals defense, well, against the 1039 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, they might be fine. Uh. Jamis Winson has 1040 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: always had a you know a bit of a sneaky 1041 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: dad bod um. If you remember hard knocks, you know, 1042 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: in a shirtless scenes. You know, he's obviously a well 1043 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: built he's an incredible, you know, athlete, but not cut 1044 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: out of stone like other professionals. Uh. Well, no, he 1045 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have the pipes of Derek Carr. But he's got 1046 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: the bod working right now. Greg, And you know what 1047 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: that means. You can just tell it in his face. 1048 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 1: What does it mean? I don't know. He's gonna the 1049 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: V page. Okay, usually it doesn't mean anything. I mean, 1050 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't take much for me to find 1051 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: something positive to say about Jamis Winston going at least 1052 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: just like hoping that he's gonna turn around. But you 1053 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: could tell when he was scrambling, and he's always been 1054 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: an underrated scramble. I think he's a pretty good scrambler. 1055 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: But you can just tell he's quicker this year. I mean, 1056 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: he's lost some weight. His face just looks like it's 1057 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: college Jamis. You know what they have, They're gonna have 1058 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: such a hard decision. Bucks. Let's say he has a 1059 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: better season and he's a little bit more consistent, he 1060 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: keeps his nose clean and turns the ball over a 1061 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: little bit less. Maybe the Bucks don't go anywhere. But 1062 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: he shows some growth in the Bruce Arians era. Are 1063 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: they going to give him like a massive contract? The thing, 1064 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: I'd say, going to be in a very tough spot 1065 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: and this big decision. It was Jason Light's pick. He's 1066 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: just been extended and if if he has that good year, 1067 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: it looks like right, I mean, well really is that? 1068 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? I mean he buys him 1069 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: a year to to make up their mind whether it's 1070 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: real or not. It's a fair thought. The word, oh 1071 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: he could go to Kirk Cousins out or what signed 1072 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: for that kind of the Bucks could just drag it 1073 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: out if they don't believe, they don't believe that, you 1074 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 1: know they want to give him a mega contract? Yeah, 1075 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: West Neil, that is what I'm say. What if that 1076 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: team goes five and I don't know that at some point, 1077 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: can we not be totally roster and eleven? I don't 1078 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: think you start? Yeah? I need progress for sure? Anything else? 1079 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: Anybody want to jump in with one of their own 1080 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: or Greg another one of yours? All right? That that's that? 1081 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 1: It's Friday. I mean, is um good stuff? Greg checking 1082 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 1: out nfl dot com. Slash Rosenthal a real banger. You'll 1083 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: you'll notice the bangers. There's an uptick in bangers now 1084 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: as Week one approaches. Mark, you've you've had bangers. West, 1085 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: You've had bangers. West had a great piece on all 1086 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: the all the rookies to keep an eye on. Let's 1087 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: have a good training camp. Thank you. This week we 1088 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: should talk about that. Let's get into it, Let's extend 1089 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: the pod. Let's do it next week. I by the 1090 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: way of a surprise banger that could come out any 1091 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: time between tonight and Yeah, Mark, not no, no, no, 1092 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: we can't say anymore. You can't say more. No, we 1093 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 1: absolutely cannot. Well, we can say that you pre wrote 1094 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: an obituary. People do that in news organizations. I just 1095 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: won't say. Batista is generally the go to pre write 1096 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: oh bit writer at this company. She writes a lot 1097 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: of it. I'm not even joking, but they trusted Mark 1098 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: for a big one. It puts you in a weird 1099 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: spot because not that actually this, but it's like, do 1100 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: I really want to wait thirty five years for this 1101 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: piece to come out? It's like, you know or you 1102 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 1: is it okay to call an obituary a banger? I mean, 1103 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: that's so I would call it the last word at 1104 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: our text Jade, he called it a long form. I'm like, 1105 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: you're doing words or something on this. What's well, it's 1106 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a major figure. This individual better you know, at 1107 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: some point expire, because that would just be a waste 1108 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: of a lot of work. At some point they will, 1109 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: I just will our organizations. Still, you know, the file 1110 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: could get lost in the mix, right, Like, I hope 1111 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen, but it's certainly possible that you could 1112 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: perish before this person or any one of them totally 1113 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: total marks Mark's status of employment. This company could perish. 1114 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna run it? Then, I did think about that, 1115 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: like it's like this down, like I don't want to 1116 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: get into someone else's business. But like you know, if 1117 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: if if Judy, let's say, you know that there's different 1118 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, everyone knows talent as contracts. But when her 1119 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: contract is up, can't you just be like, well, what 1120 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with the thirty five oh bits 1121 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: I wrote? You gotta bring me back? You can't run those? Uh, 1122 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: if I'm no longer with the company, good negotiating a 1123 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: great leverage. I guess you could yank the byline so 1124 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm a businessman and that's how I've been thinking, saving 1125 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: for the morbidcast um. All right, before we go, a 1126 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: couple of news, Greg, you want to get a little 1127 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: plug in your your A little side pod is coming back. 1128 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't. I didn't know where you're going to promote? Oh? Yes, 1129 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: the leaving soon enough. The jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanity 1130 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: Project is coming back to Comedy Central podcast for a 1131 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: season two starting September three. So people should catch up, 1132 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: you know the old episodes. Catch up now and Ricky, 1133 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: by the way, connect the dots. Ricky's doing this unnamed 1134 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: fantasy project with rank where she's on camera. She is 1135 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: a big part of the jessel Nick Rosenthal Show. She's 1136 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: not gonna be sitting behind the glass too much longer. 1137 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: It's just we're like when you're you're in middle school 1138 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: and you moved to a completely different part of the country, 1139 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: you go to a different school, you become a high 1140 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: school person. You say you're gonna keep in touch with 1141 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: all those middle school friends back in Minnesota. By the 1142 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: time you're in a sophomore in high school, you'ven you 1143 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: will never speak to any of them ever again. She's 1144 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: kind of bird you can keep caged, you know. Yeah, 1145 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: but I'd never leave you guys. Well you say that now, 1146 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: Well we'll play that in the episode where we say 1147 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: goodbye to you. Clip that. And we heard Connie Fox earlier. 1148 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: She was on the latest Throwback Pod where we talked 1149 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: about her seat her senior year of high school August 1150 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: two thousand two. Some bangers in that are I mean, 1151 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: you're revealing her age, which I don't think it is 1152 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: a problem, but just done that. She is, you know, 1153 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: Connie's she is without any type of you know, some 1154 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: people get sensitive about that. Connie is that one of them? 1155 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: That's I think that's a fair assessment. Yeah, I was 1156 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: not assessing differently. I was just saying factually, people could 1157 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: put together what her ages if they were curious. They 1158 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have thought about it. But then from the 1159 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: show apology, So check that out at Throwback Pod. Um, 1160 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: and let's let's all have a nice weekend. Let's have 1161 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: a safe weekend. Okay, all right, you guys are ready 1162 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: to go, signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the 1163 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: old Boss. I could sit here all day. You guys 1164 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: are ready to go, and Regularity behind the glass go 1165 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: for it until Monday m