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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, June second, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen,
Speaker 1: episode number one twelve. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 1: of questions, got a lot of questions. I've already pulled
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Speaker 1: five five, two two nine seven. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: a quick question from Victor Perez on Twitter. His question
Speaker 1: is what do you think our biggest train is going
Speaker 1: into training camp? And what's our biggest weakness. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the biggest strength first. What do you think is
Speaker 1: the biggest strength of this team going get to drink camp?
Speaker 1: Why are you laughing, David, I'm because, like you know,
Speaker 1: and no offense to Victor get it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's just it's just what we've talked about for a
Speaker 1: long time. It's like the central storyline of this team,
Speaker 1: I think is Okay, let me, can I put something
Speaker 1: in real quick before you say it? Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think I know where you're going. You cannot say just
Speaker 1: blanket offense and defense. Okay, bad gotta get a little deeper,
Speaker 1: Gottle deeper because if you're right, that's gonna bet the
Speaker 1: answered then that would be really easy. But you can't
Speaker 1: say this offense. You can't say defense. What's the biggest
Speaker 1: strength of this team. The biggest strength of this team
Speaker 1: is that they have one of the five or six
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league who has a tremendous amount
Speaker 1: of upside and the potential to be one of the
Speaker 1: two or three best in the league at some point
Speaker 1: in the future. And and he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: weapons to work with. Like, anything the Cowboys accomplish will
Speaker 1: be because of Dak Prescott, and if they fall short,
Speaker 1: it's gonna fall on him. And their biggest weakness is
Speaker 1: obviously I mean, yeah, defense is too obvious. But the
Speaker 1: back seven, specifically of the there's basically nothing at safety.
Speaker 1: The cornerback depth chart looks better than it did before
Speaker 1: the draft, but is completely unproven. I mean, the guy
Speaker 1: that you feel best about. Treyvon Diggs had an up
Speaker 1: and down rocky rookie season, and that's probably who you
Speaker 1: feel the best about. There's just not a lot in
Speaker 1: the way of proven playmakers in the secondary camber. Biggest strength,
Speaker 1: I would say the wide receiver group. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: pretty solid. We saw what they did last year, regardless
Speaker 1: of Dak being out for so long. Imagine with Dad
Speaker 1: being back in the makes and him being healthy, I
Speaker 1: think the wide receiver group can do a really good job.
Speaker 1: But also part of me almost wants to say Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore as well as this strength. I wouldn't say, because
Speaker 1: regardless of what happened last here and how things went down,
Speaker 1: I still believe that Kellen Moore has the talent to
Speaker 1: keep putting together things and making a click and making
Speaker 1: the offense work once he has all his healthy guys
Speaker 1: back into the mix. So I think it is a
Speaker 1: good positive thing that Kellen Moore is still here and
Speaker 1: that still hasn't been touched. So I do have trust
Speaker 1: that he can be a strength for the offense as well.
Speaker 1: Um I mean I think the offense, you know, is
Speaker 1: the strength, and so which position specifically, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: all connected. I think the receivers. I agree with the
Speaker 1: receivers are the best unit. But I think that they
Speaker 1: they're aided by by having Zeke and having the running
Speaker 1: game and having Dak throwing to them, so it does
Speaker 1: all kind of work together. I mean, I will say that,
Speaker 1: you know, the best position group that from I think
Speaker 1: is the wide receivers. I mean, if Cedric Wilson is
Speaker 1: your fourth guy and he's been around and made some plays,
Speaker 1: you know, then I think that the three on top
Speaker 1: of him, I think that that's the strength. I think.
Speaker 1: The weakness I mean I don't want to. I mean
Speaker 1: it's well, the weakness is you're unknown, and you know,
Speaker 1: is it coaching. I mean I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: it could be. I mean because because last year it
Speaker 1: wasn't very good and so I mean, okay, dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn, that's great. But I mean we'll see, I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll see if if that's better. I think it will be.
Speaker 1: I really think it will be. But like the whole
Speaker 1: thing with the pandemic and the coaching and all the
Speaker 1: virtual and all the stuff, and then on the field,
Speaker 1: and I just think that they're not getting as much
Speaker 1: as as you would want there, you know, and I
Speaker 1: do blame the pandemic for some of it, but all
Speaker 1: teams are dealing with it now now they're not at
Speaker 1: all dealing with it the same. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the news staffs are dealing with it a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but they that I don't know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: call it a weakness, but I think it is. That's
Speaker 1: an issue that needs to be addressed. If it's not,
Speaker 1: if it's a position or I'll take corner corner, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I really I've I've held true to
Speaker 1: this all last season as well. Even more so than that,
Speaker 1: I think the greatest advantage for this team this year
Speaker 1: is that they're getting those two tackles back. I think
Speaker 1: if you take away one of those tackles last year,
Speaker 1: they're probably still okay. Taking away both your two tackles,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you put back. Derek quarterback. As
Speaker 1: we saw, even though those games that Dak played, the
Speaker 1: offense was playing well, but a lot of that they
Speaker 1: had to do coming from behind because they weren't clicking
Speaker 1: from the beginning of every game. I think the tackles
Speaker 1: were the biggest problems. So getting those guys back. I
Speaker 1: think that's your biggest strength and weakness. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest weakness is the unknown with regards to injuries. Think
Speaker 1: about this. I just made a quick list. Got Dak,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Lyle at Tristan Hill, you got l Ve, you
Speaker 1: got Kaze, you got Neil. These are all guys that
Speaker 1: ended last year injured. These are all guys that are
Speaker 1: coming back that you hope or at least No, Derek, No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. You can't make a strength and
Speaker 1: a weakness the same you just you just said no, no, No.
Speaker 1: The strengths are the tackles. Win they're healthy. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just put it like that. Whin they're healthy, but
Speaker 1: the weakness still is like you got them. You're betting
Speaker 1: on a lot of guys coming back from entries last year,
Speaker 1: not the tackles because their strength. No, I know when
Speaker 1: they're healthy. I know when they're healthy. And I think
Speaker 1: we all agree Tyren Smith when he's healthy, he's one
Speaker 1: of the best, but five tackles in the league, ten
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. But you wonder if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be healthy because neck and back issues don't necessarily always
Speaker 1: go away. So yes, when he's at his best, when
Speaker 1: he's playing, when he's healthy, he's gonna be really, really good.
Speaker 1: What we don't know is was this surgery what he
Speaker 1: needed to get him back to the point where he
Speaker 1: can play a full season. We don't know that. And
Speaker 1: they're betting on it. They're betting a lot on it.
Speaker 1: They are laughing. We're here. No. Well, and you know,
Speaker 1: because we had a long conversation before this show about
Speaker 1: what we wanted to talk about, and you know, we
Speaker 1: were talking about the Athletic Podcast and they did like
Speaker 1: the non quarterback draft, like the best non quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I get what you're saying, but even like,
Speaker 1: even if all those guys are healthy, how good are
Speaker 1: they not? The tackles, Well, I was gonna ta da
Speaker 1: the tackles. We all know those, all about those three
Speaker 1: they are like Lyle and Tyron are among the ten
Speaker 1: or twelve best at their position if they're healthy. Dak
Speaker 1: Is probably is top ten at the bare minimum. But
Speaker 1: like all the guys you listed on defense, like, how
Speaker 1: good are those guys? Like, even if you get seventeen
Speaker 1: games out of all those guys, do we know that
Speaker 1: they're good? No? We don't absolutely, but what we do
Speaker 1: know is what we do know is they're the best
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna have. Sure, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: better than what you got with Tristan Hill. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get a better defensive tackle. You're pulling out of
Speaker 1: off the way we wire at this point, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're probably not. The LV probably is gonna play if
Speaker 1: he's healthy. What you're hoping is that he can get
Speaker 1: back to playing like he played before the injury. Maybe,
Speaker 1: and then maybe you got a player here, Like there
Speaker 1: are a lot of There are a lot of bets here,
Speaker 1: but the first has to start with can you get
Speaker 1: them healthy? Can you get them to play a full
Speaker 1: seventeen games? Yeah, you're they need they need to be
Speaker 1: on the field, And then there's a completely separate matter
Speaker 1: of how good they are. When I mean there, I
Speaker 1: mean you kind of like put a question like if
Speaker 1: if if lv's healthy, like is he good? That's kind
Speaker 1: of what it sounded like. I mean, he wasn't all
Speaker 1: pro as a rookie. I mean, I think he's I
Speaker 1: think he's a good, really good player, But there were
Speaker 1: times when he played last year when he was healthy
Speaker 1: that he didn't play great, right, so would we really
Speaker 1: know what he is? It was that last year? Are
Speaker 1: you talking about last year and last year? I think
Speaker 1: last year. I think we're gonna find out that last year,
Speaker 1: especially on defense, is just gonna kind of get thrown
Speaker 1: out the windows. The coordinator, because of the coordinator, because
Speaker 1: of the coordinator, plus the lack of prep time. And
Speaker 1: I think that some coaches did it better. Obviously there
Speaker 1: are teams that did it better with this and this
Speaker 1: one wasn't one of them. So they need to get
Speaker 1: on the field. They need it, and they need a
Speaker 1: better coordinator, plus the you know feel they need preseason games,
Speaker 1: they need all that. I actually agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think the defense will be better, much better than it
Speaker 1: was last year. If I think like it'll be, they'll
Speaker 1: be documentaries on this defense forever, like this the worst
Speaker 1: defense ever thrown out saying that's gonna be deep blue
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Who would watch that? I mean,
Speaker 1: no offense? People do like the train wreck. Look, people
Speaker 1: like the train My experience like people won as little
Speaker 1: to do with remembering last season as possible, So like
Speaker 1: if it happens again and then we try to make
Speaker 1: a movie about it from someone that tried to write
Speaker 1: a book about the two fifteen season. By the time
Speaker 1: the book came out, the Cowboys were five and one.
Speaker 1: Dakin Ze twenty sixteen, Like, I don't care about that season.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, it wasn't on the bestseller list.
Speaker 1: Very true. Let's go to the next question. Got a
Speaker 1: question from Adam Why. His question is how realistic is
Speaker 1: it to actually think lv or Smith will be traded
Speaker 1: before the season? Obviously, linebacker is a position has a
Speaker 1: lot of players there. What's possibility and by the way,
Speaker 1: let's not even limit it to those two. What's possibility
Speaker 1: that that one of these linebackers, whoever they might be,
Speaker 1: ends up traded before the season. Okay, I love the
Speaker 1: phrasing before the season. Yeah, because that means that you
Speaker 1: went through training camp in the preseason and you have
Speaker 1: a much better idea of what you're working with. I
Speaker 1: do not understand the desire to have this happen this
Speaker 1: week with either one of them, because neither one of
Speaker 1: them's worth a lot. Layton has. He's missed forty percent
Speaker 1: of the last two years. He's missed thirteen games over
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. It's a lot one year left
Speaker 1: on his deal, what are you getting for him day
Speaker 1: three pick? Probably you're definitely only getting a Day three
Speaker 1: pick for Jalen Smith with that contract and the cost
Speaker 1: that you would incur, I just can't imagine you're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of return on your investment. And so in
Speaker 1: my mind, give me the depth. We just talked about
Speaker 1: how much their depth was challenged last year. Give me
Speaker 1: the depth. But if Jabril Cox is just the ultimate
Speaker 1: badass and you feel great about it, or Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: is even better than we think he can be, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that doesn't look very necessary in September,
Speaker 1: that's a different conversation, and we see teams do stuff
Speaker 1: like that all the time, like the Cowboys. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: typically trade to acquire players at roster cuts. But if
Speaker 1: you just have a glut and you feel good about
Speaker 1: the young guys, that's a little more realistic. I still
Speaker 1: wouldn't bet on it happening, but I think it's got
Speaker 1: a chance of happening in September than right now. I
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at the list and it's just like
Speaker 1: one of those things that right now it looks like
Speaker 1: pretty packed and all it takes is a guy going
Speaker 1: out and then all of a sudden you start looking
Speaker 1: at it and it looks pretty thin, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm never opposed to something like that, like a trade
Speaker 1: like that, but I don't think I feel that comfortable
Speaker 1: doing that at this point. And it's just so hard
Speaker 1: to judge, even with a training camp and the preseason.
Speaker 1: Like they've mentioned, it's so hard to judge how good
Speaker 1: a player is going to be unless you get into
Speaker 1: the real season and start playing real games. So as
Speaker 1: we know, and we do these shows at training camp
Speaker 1: and we start talking about guys and we're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it all looks good, and then the season starts
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, what happened. So it
Speaker 1: can be very deceiving what we see during that time.
Speaker 1: But I would assume or think that these coaches have
Speaker 1: a lot better judgment of displayer than any of those
Speaker 1: any of us do outside of that room. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to it if they think that's the
Speaker 1: right idea. I don't think it's going to happen, though,
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I think I
Speaker 1: would just be okay with keeping everyone in this year,
Speaker 1: Like I've said before, I don't mind sitting someone on
Speaker 1: the bench just for a little bit. But that's a
Speaker 1: different story. I think we moved to another question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they've answered it fine. I mean, it's if
Speaker 1: it happens, it happens. But I mean I like the depth,
Speaker 1: right I like the depth right now. I mean because
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get in it right now, you would
Speaker 1: probably get in a compic. I think you have a
Speaker 1: better you have a better chance of getting Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: and all Pro players that you've had to try to
Speaker 1: get back to that level with a coach like Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: I think people people get so paranoid about getting burned
Speaker 1: in the future that they try to like sever those
Speaker 1: ties in the present. Michael Gallup's the same thing, Like
Speaker 1: people are so terrified of losing him to another team
Speaker 1: in the future that they'd rather get rid of him
Speaker 1: before they need to. And it's it's it's how he
Speaker 1: goes in dating sometimes too, Like people are so afraid
Speaker 1: of get and broken up with that they just just sabotage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, so they don't have to get
Speaker 1: to that point. It's a hole. Get you before you
Speaker 1: get me. I mean and everything really so, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's a great like you know, let's say let's
Speaker 1: say Layton's just decent and he signed somewhere else next year,
Speaker 1: and you get like a fourth round pick for him
Speaker 1: in twenty three. I mean, you gotta wait a little
Speaker 1: bit longer for it, but you get the same thing
Speaker 1: you would get right now. But he's still capable of
Speaker 1: helping you right now in the president And I just
Speaker 1: think that's more about But also, fans don't want to
Speaker 1: see Anthony Hitchins in any more Super Bowls, you know,
Speaker 1: And even though that was a guy that nobody was
Speaker 1: really that worried about him, leave it. That's you know,
Speaker 1: I am the president of the Anthony Hitchins fan Club.
Speaker 1: But that is a that is a situation that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys handled perfectly. They didn't do anything wrong. Fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: far exceeded his expectations, got paid way more than I
Speaker 1: would have felt comfortable paying him here, went to a
Speaker 1: better team. Like Anthony Hitchins isn't the reason the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have been in the hits. It sucks to see a
Speaker 1: guy that you drafted winning super Bowls with somebody else.
Speaker 1: But like it's like, you know, nobody in Kansas City's
Speaker 1: like it all changed when we got hit, Like that's
Speaker 1: just come on and stop. No offense to Anthony, but
Speaker 1: let's be he What sucks is like you gotta look
Speaker 1: at the whole component as a whole. Like there are
Speaker 1: so many players that we've seen being here with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and everyone criticizes, like the fans, they don't like it
Speaker 1: of blah blah oh free agency, it's gonna cost too much,
Speaker 1: they can leave. Then they go to another team and
Speaker 1: then you see them being having some kind of success
Speaker 1: and being successful, and then it's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to criticize the Cowboys because I'm all Cowboys, but it
Speaker 1: just sucks sometimes where when you see someone that wasn't
Speaker 1: even really that good here, but then they go somewhere
Speaker 1: else and then they start thriving over there, It's like, man,
Speaker 1: what are we not doing right on this end? The
Speaker 1: one thing I would be careful with that is I
Speaker 1: think we may fall pray sometimes too. With the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: we watched them every single play of every single practice
Speaker 1: of every single game the whole night, and so we
Speaker 1: see all the warts and then they go somewhere else
Speaker 1: and we only catch them on highlights. I think Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath is a good example of that. We saw some
Speaker 1: highlights from the last year people like Jeffy like, but
Speaker 1: Jeff He's probably did the same thing there as he did.
Speaker 1: He made plays here. It was all the stuff. It
Speaker 1: was all the stuff that was happening when he wasn't
Speaker 1: making plays. That was the reason he wasn't here anymore.
Speaker 1: And like you said, he's no longer will Oakland, I mean,
Speaker 1: well Las Vegas. Yeah, And when you watch these guys,
Speaker 1: you're what you know, Hitchens or Damian Wilson or whatever.
Speaker 1: You're watching them in the playoffs when the Cowboys aren't
Speaker 1: there and you're like, you know, you think it's not
Speaker 1: that they're the ones taking them over the top, but
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean there are some cases for that,
Speaker 1: especially then when you go back to the current linebacker
Speaker 1: spot and you're like, maybe they should have just kept
Speaker 1: him instead of signing. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: the way they played, Like Anthony Hitchins got paid a lot. Now,
Speaker 1: there are cases that you can criticize for. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to open the Byron
Speaker 1: Jones Pandora's box like that, that's a premium position where
Speaker 1: you have to pay for production. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think Byron got is just due because he didn't
Speaker 1: get interceptions, but he certainly seems to be part of
Speaker 1: Miami's defense becoming a strength of that team. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it helps that he's got Zavian Howard across front. Like
Speaker 1: I get it. There there's you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts. But like that is a situation where
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, maybe the Cowboys should have ponied
Speaker 1: up and paid Byron instead of an off ball linebacker
Speaker 1: and a running back, Like how much better as Diggs
Speaker 1: if he's got on the other side. You can start
Speaker 1: playing that game and then you start really wandering, like
Speaker 1: how much better are you off? The better off all
Speaker 1: year if you had him? Probably you don't think they do.
Speaker 1: I mean, they still were going to be down on
Speaker 1: linebackers right final draft Diggs though, if they have Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. I mean maybe who knows,
Speaker 1: But they don't go in They guarantee they don't go
Speaker 1: into this draft, like we gotta get a corner. We
Speaker 1: got to get a corner probably that's rated higher than
Speaker 1: the linebacker we have because we got to get him
Speaker 1: and then and then we'll just take this corner in
Speaker 1: the second round that you know, he's got some he's
Speaker 1: got some issues, but he's got talent, so let's go
Speaker 1: for it. You know, did he have really it seemed
Speaker 1: like he had really long arms. Just looking at him,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about is he had dan Quein kind of
Speaker 1: guy Joseph no um um, Byron Oh, Byron Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see like he had long arms. Yeah, right, it
Speaker 1: seems like he would be a dan Quinn kind of guy.
Speaker 1: I want to say, Byron, I don't hate that, I
Speaker 1: know this, but I think because he had thirty one
Speaker 1: inch arms, I think, yeah, long off the top of
Speaker 1: your head and well stuff, I'm flat and on top
Speaker 1: of that, I just my lasting mental image of Byron
Speaker 1: Jones for the rest of my life is just gonna
Speaker 1: be the way that he used to reach over the
Speaker 1: dB and just kind of poke the ball away, And
Speaker 1: you can't do that without really Yeah, And so that's
Speaker 1: why I was I was thinking about it from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: like he might have been a guy that had dan
Speaker 1: Quinn been here a couple of years earlier, maybe they
Speaker 1: don't get rid of me. Maybe he's like, this is
Speaker 1: the kind of guy we want. Chris Richard was a
Speaker 1: Seattle disciple as well, and he was the one that
Speaker 1: was like, this guy needs to be playing cornerback. So
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. All Right, We're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back. We got so
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Speaker 1: of the Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at
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Speaker 1: We got a lot to roll through here. We're going
Speaker 1: to keep it rolling. We got a question here from
Speaker 1: Nicholas Ganzel. He says, how much of an upgrade is
Speaker 1: a healthy Kauze over our past free safeties. It's a
Speaker 1: great question and it's one of the more intriguing storylines
Speaker 1: about the defense because like on paper, the answer is
Speaker 1: should be a lot better healthy healthy, if he's healthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember the last time the Cowboys
Speaker 1: employed a safety who had a seven interception season. I
Speaker 1: mean that's a lot. Haha, Clinton Dicks, No way, you
Speaker 1: weren't alive. Yeah, seriously, I mean nineteen eighty Wow. Really
Speaker 1: seven interceptions from a safety, which also seven that's a
Speaker 1: lot too. Seven inters. That's an outlier, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of guys that get that many
Speaker 1: in a season. But the point but like he's got
Speaker 1: the coverage ability in the ball skills that we haven't
Speaker 1: seen here a lot. The problem is, like Amber, how
Speaker 1: many you know? How many times are we gonna fall
Speaker 1: into this trap? You know? And like I met Demante
Speaker 1: because he last week and he's a super nice guy.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely pulling for him, But like I've been down
Speaker 1: this road before. They do what gives you pause? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you talked about what the positive is, what gives
Speaker 1: you pausitive? I don't need anything else it's an achilles injury.
Speaker 1: It's like we medicine has made so much progress, but
Speaker 1: that is still a tricky thing. You know, Barry Church
Speaker 1: even talked about it. If Like I thought that was
Speaker 1: super interesting the way that Barry talked about you know,
Speaker 1: he did the same thing early in his Cowboys career
Speaker 1: and his first year back, he's like it just feels weird,
Speaker 1: like learning to trust it again and like relying on
Speaker 1: it the way that you need to, it's difficult. And
Speaker 1: then the other thing, you know, look at what Look
Speaker 1: at what they gave Kazee, Like follow the money always
Speaker 1: and it's a tiny deal. Like I think, like it's
Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand dollars and guarantees that is nothing.
Speaker 1: And whenever, like if the guarantees are that small, it
Speaker 1: just gives me pause. I'm like, okay, Like they they're
Speaker 1: not super confident that this is going to work out,
Speaker 1: or they would have given it more money. And if
Speaker 1: it does work out, we'll be here in a year
Speaker 1: or wondering what they're going to do in free agency
Speaker 1: because they let him go. I mean, he did I
Speaker 1: bet on myself type of deal and so you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like this is a fix. You know, it
Speaker 1: might be good. Albus could always resign him if they could. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they could definitely resign him. But you know, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, an upgrade over what they had. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's a big upgrade if he's healthy because Xavier
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods he didn't make any plays. Yeah, he just didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean he he was out there and he ran
Speaker 1: around and he you know, and he did some things.
Speaker 1: Okay I don't remember them, but I mean he did
Speaker 1: enough to start. I'm not, you know, nice guy and
Speaker 1: all that, but I mean he never made a play.
Speaker 1: He I mean, over the course of the time he
Speaker 1: was here, I can think of a few, like most
Speaker 1: most of them were like hard hits really or what
Speaker 1: like he had a you know, I think he demolished
Speaker 1: somebody in that Saints game in twenty eighteen. It was
Speaker 1: a big, like tone setting play. But like I agree
Speaker 1: with you, for the most part, I can think of
Speaker 1: more dropped interceptions than anything. He had three or four
Speaker 1: of those. So so this is a big upgrade if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, He's a big upgrade. The if the if
Speaker 1: does so much work in that sentence. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: freaking frustrating part that when it comes to safety, there's
Speaker 1: always a question mark. There multiple question marks, and even
Speaker 1: when you get a guy like this that you've heard
Speaker 1: of his history and what he's been able incapable of
Speaker 1: doing in the past, there's still question marks around it
Speaker 1: and you still don't know what you're actually gonna get.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, and this is gonna be done
Speaker 1: because most people know about Darren Woodson, most Cowboys fans. Me.
Speaker 1: I knew the name, I knew he played for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about him or anything. So my
Speaker 1: appreciation and like the idea of what I wanted to
Speaker 1: safety has changed very much after learning more about Darren Woodson,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, Nick and Rob Phillips. They're working
Speaker 1: on a Deep Blue documentary on him, which is I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really good and this is coming
Speaker 1: out soon. But that has gotten me to learn more
Speaker 1: about what the safety position can be for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and what it's not. So if I was upset about
Speaker 1: the safety before learning so much about Darren Woodson, I
Speaker 1: am more upset about it and now based on the
Speaker 1: things that I've seen, and if I was, and it's
Speaker 1: not very necessarily to compare it to compare players, but
Speaker 1: you can kind of fair well, I guess so, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's not even close. It's not even close
Speaker 1: to that level. And it's just frustrating when you see
Speaker 1: years after year that the Cowboys haven't necessarily put the
Speaker 1: amount of attention on that kind of need, even though
Speaker 1: this year they talked about it over and over like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know we need a safety and then and they're
Speaker 1: always saying at least this year that they've been trying
Speaker 1: but it just hasn't quite worked out and all that.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, just get someone
Speaker 1: that's healthy, that has some history that you can have
Speaker 1: some kind of trust or man, it's just really frustrating.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is like, okay, and I know, you know,
Speaker 1: the staff has changed and there's we're seeing different trends.
Speaker 1: Right like they drafted Quentin Bohana. You know, they haven't
Speaker 1: valued one technique of for a long time, but it
Speaker 1: seems like maybe that's changing. But what's funny to me
Speaker 1: is most of the time I've worked here, they haven't
Speaker 1: valued one technique defensive tackle. But it kind of makes
Speaker 1: sense because they've found production there without like they've kind
Speaker 1: of sort of been right, not really, but like Terrell McLean,
Speaker 1: they got good use out of him, Antoine Woods think.
Speaker 1: I mean for a gun drafted guy that they plucked
Speaker 1: off the scrap heat, they got great value out of that.
Speaker 1: They treat safety the same way and it bites him
Speaker 1: in the ass every year, and they don't change their mind.
Speaker 1: Whether you know, way back when I first got here,
Speaker 1: it was Will Allen. He made it like five weeks
Speaker 1: into the season, haha, Klinton Dix didn't make it out
Speaker 1: of training camp. Like, they don't spend and they don't
Speaker 1: get production out of it, but they don't change their
Speaker 1: mind about it. Like does that make sense? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: I think that they that that you also have to
Speaker 1: remember here is like the difference between those two positions.
Speaker 1: The one technique has over the years gotten less important, right,
Speaker 1: it is a two down play if that in the
Speaker 1: NFL at this point where you're talking about safety, where
Speaker 1: in a passing league has gotten more important. So you
Speaker 1: would think they'd be giving more resources to trying to
Speaker 1: find the right free safety even if they weren't putting
Speaker 1: those resources in a one technique. But it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like those for whatever reason. It's not working, and whatever
Speaker 1: they're doing, it's not working. It hasn't. It's frustrating and
Speaker 1: borderline terrifying. If Demante Kaze is healthy and is playing
Speaker 1: like a beast, then they're going to look really smart.
Speaker 1: If he's not, they signed j Ron Curse, who has
Speaker 1: nine career starts, actually wrote about him today. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a big opportunity here, but the point is
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it consistently in the NFL. Israel mcquamu's
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick and Donovan Wilson is showing a
Speaker 1: lot of promise. I'm sure there are people that are
Speaker 1: mad that were just now mentioning him, but like third
Speaker 1: year players showed a lot of promise, we would all agree.
Speaker 1: Like coverage has not been what has made him flash strong? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's where he's a box safety as far as
Speaker 1: I have seen to this point in his career. Maybe
Speaker 1: he can continue to develop, but we don't know that
Speaker 1: and so that's not it's not a lot to go on, man,
Speaker 1: it's really not. Give me a quick update on Mukuamu.
Speaker 1: Because we had a question from east Side Sammy. He
Speaker 1: was asking the same He was like what's up with him?
Speaker 1: He said he heard some good things from Barry Church
Speaker 1: talking about him from the opening ota from the Rookie
Speaker 1: Muni camp. Haven't heard really much about him since then. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Bucky Brooks, who studies, you know,
Speaker 1: all the entire draft, he has him as one of
Speaker 1: his favorite picks from the Cowboys as well. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a corner. He played corner opposite jac Horn at
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and so you know, he told Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the best corner in the draft. And
Speaker 1: then they called him like an hour later and said,
Speaker 1: we're actually moving you to safety, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the best safety in the draft.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, like that's just his confidence. But
Speaker 1: he's got length, he's tall, and you know, if he's
Speaker 1: got skills to play corner, you know, everyone always thinks
Speaker 1: if you're a little bit lower to play corner, you
Speaker 1: just play safety. That's not necessarily like you got to
Speaker 1: be able to be tough, you gotta be able to tackle,
Speaker 1: you gotta have awareness and instincts. So I think he
Speaker 1: can do all that. But but when just out here
Speaker 1: and look at him, he yeah, he looks the part
Speaker 1: because he's he's got range, he can cover. We'll see
Speaker 1: how tough he is when the paths come on and
Speaker 1: you start having to get up there and make the plays.
Speaker 1: I'll throw this in there too, because people have asked
Speaker 1: about it. Reggie Robinson was playing corner at the Open
Speaker 1: Ota last week. You know, it seems like he's been
Speaker 1: moved back and forth like six times at this point,
Speaker 1: but he was playing corner. And I haven't seen or
Speaker 1: heard anything that suggests Jordan Lewis is dabbling in safety.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have mentioned that. I
Speaker 1: see no evidence that that's the right's best slot, right, yeah?
Speaker 1: Or is Anthy Brown better than you think that's lot?
Speaker 1: I would probably take Jordan. I think Jordan's a better slot. So,
Speaker 1: but yeah, a lot like people love doing that, like
Speaker 1: when the depth chart gets crowded, they're like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: this guy can play corner or safety. I haven't. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I don't think that's happening. All right,
Speaker 1: let's pull the next question. This one is from Joe t.
Speaker 1: He says, what's the confidence level that our defensive line
Speaker 1: can keep blockers off our linebackers? This year? Not a
Speaker 1: high pause. It's not a high confidence level. I mean
Speaker 1: that's by the pause a lot, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that that was a big issue last year. And then
Speaker 1: you know what, what what has really changed? Boa? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I knew that was going to get and and
Speaker 1: and yeah that's that's great. But we'll see. I mean
Speaker 1: I want to know, like, what is the reason for
Speaker 1: the first five and a half rounds of him getting passed?
Speaker 1: You know, like he looks the part and all that,
Speaker 1: but is he is he gonna play seven plays and
Speaker 1: tap his helmet? Like, I don't know, what is the
Speaker 1: what is the thing with him? I don't know? Um,
Speaker 1: why do you think they would have let Antoine Woods
Speaker 1: go if they didn't think Bohannah is gonna be playing
Speaker 1: as at least that kind of role For that one
Speaker 1: point seven million dollars difference? That really yeah this year
Speaker 1: it is Yeah, if for this year, that is a
Speaker 1: huge difference. They are they're counting dollars also, don't I
Speaker 1: mean didn't have a replacement though one I get one
Speaker 1: point seven Is it like two days after the draft? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean like that just to me, it just kind
Speaker 1: of saying they think, now again, he may not be
Speaker 1: able to It's signaled to me they think they got options,
Speaker 1: and you talk about urban Urban being an option as well.
Speaker 1: To me, it just said they think they got options.
Speaker 1: Well and don't don't. I mean, I get it. Bohannah
Speaker 1: fills a specific role. They drafted two tackles and a
Speaker 1: third guy that can play tackle in Gholston set. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a numbers game. I think they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got three, three guys that probably add up to
Speaker 1: cost what Antoine costs exactly. And they're just like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: like this is a place we think we can save.
Speaker 1: You just gotta hope guys are better. You hope that
Speaker 1: you know that Neville Galimore comes in the second year
Speaker 1: and he's he's better, you know, trust than Hill was
Speaker 1: actually coming on pretty good last year. And if he
Speaker 1: if he makes this recovery from his injury, you got Galimore,
Speaker 1: you got you got Tristan Hill, you got Osah Diggi Zua. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bohannah Golson slides in there. Urban slides in there. I
Speaker 1: mean Urban is in there. You know. It's funny. We
Speaker 1: hope that they're better. It's funny because you guys talked
Speaker 1: about this in the first segment and like defense is
Speaker 1: so wildly unpredictable, like you see it every year, it shifts,
Speaker 1: it's not sustainable. Turnover differentials a big part of it,
Speaker 1: and it like you see teams move around a lot,
Speaker 1: and unless you're like a Seattle type defense that just
Speaker 1: has Hall of Fame talent everywhere, there's a lot of fluctuations.
Speaker 1: So like, there's plenty of optimism that this can be
Speaker 1: a much better unit, But how in June can I
Speaker 1: say that I'm confident about them doing anything? Really? I mean,
Speaker 1: like I like the Brent Urban signing a lot, but
Speaker 1: we're still we're talking about that. This is the way
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have done this for a few years now,
Speaker 1: and it really hasn't paid a ton of dividends. So
Speaker 1: Watkins is he Carlos Why? Yeah, I mean he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's played defensive tackle in his career. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what they're doing with him right now, like playing
Speaker 1: always forget about him because you see the size of
Speaker 1: the deal and you're like, Okay, like they can cut
Speaker 1: this guy in August if they want to, and that
Speaker 1: goes for all of these guys. So easy to be optimistic,
Speaker 1: but hard to feel confident. That's that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: Question from Christopher Trout. He says, what is the likelihood
Speaker 1: of any more free agent editions before or during training camp?
Speaker 1: And he throws out Malik Hooker safety. I think from
Speaker 1: the Colts, yea um as a as a possibility in
Speaker 1: the event that, let's say, for example, because they don't
Speaker 1: think he's quite ready or they think they need a
Speaker 1: little more help at safety. What do you think about
Speaker 1: Hooker or any other free agents out there? Doesn't he
Speaker 1: Hooker comes with the injury. I mean it's and that's
Speaker 1: not all. I mean, he had injury concerns coming out
Speaker 1: of college. That's why he didn't get dressed. I think
Speaker 1: he's at an MCL and an ACL on one knee
Speaker 1: and then meniscus on the other knee and then the achilles.
Speaker 1: So and he also he came in the same week
Speaker 1: that because he did, they were they brought him both
Speaker 1: in and looked at him, and I think they felt
Speaker 1: better about because he's prospects. So I don't think I
Speaker 1: wou you should never say never, especially if it's a
Speaker 1: guy that they've brought. They liked him enough to bring
Speaker 1: him in, But I think something would have to change
Speaker 1: for them to want to do that. You know, I
Speaker 1: think the answer to that if it would be a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the best option for But didn we
Speaker 1: all say last week. I just want to say, I
Speaker 1: think last week we all agreed that we were good
Speaker 1: with where they are right now quarterback, right, we are good.
Speaker 1: I'm answering the question part. They keeps talking about it
Speaker 1: and I didn't wanting to add depth at the position,
Speaker 1: and they haven't found the right guy that they are looking,
Speaker 1: but they brought in what two guys? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: laugh because h never mind, that was funny. I forgot.
Speaker 1: I forgot where we are and what day it is
Speaker 1: and all that. Now I'm good day the break. I do.
Speaker 1: I do have confidence in Garret Gilbert, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think when watching him sometimes you think that he's
Speaker 1: you know, you think, oh man, he's good, he's ready
Speaker 1: to go. If that's what he was it, if that
Speaker 1: was the floor against you know, Pittsburgh, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's a journeyman. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: you can get better. You can get guys that are better.
Speaker 1: But I I think I'm okay with him. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna find like better than him out
Speaker 1: on the street, going to find more experience, you may
Speaker 1: not find better. Keep in mind, you know, we're fixated
Speaker 1: on June one for all of our own things, but
Speaker 1: that's every team in the league. Like you can, you know,
Speaker 1: salary cap the rules allowed teams to do stuff that
Speaker 1: they couldn't have done before. So like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about Julio Jones and Aaron Rodgers, but like, well,
Speaker 1: well we'll see some teams are going to tinker with
Speaker 1: their rosters now. Like I've you know, Chicago has got
Speaker 1: to do something with Nick Foles, whether I'm right, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have Dalton and they just drafted fields and Foles
Speaker 1: is on a huge contract, like something feels like it's
Speaker 1: that that to me might be an upgrade. If you're
Speaker 1: talking about bringing him in as your backup, I think
Speaker 1: that absolutely, even knowing, even knowing that he didn't play
Speaker 1: well in Chicago, I would feel better about that. But
Speaker 1: are you going to trade for that contract? Probably not.
Speaker 1: He would probably need to be cut first. But and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to start rumors. I haven't heard anything
Speaker 1: about that, But guys like that, we're gonna see teams
Speaker 1: shed that salary and kind of tinker with their rosters.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe in late June or July would that
Speaker 1: be How ironic would that be if Nick Foles comes
Speaker 1: here to be the backup to to Dak Prescott. And
Speaker 1: I know he's on another team right now, but but
Speaker 1: wasn't it Nick Foles when Tony Romo got hurt that
Speaker 1: They're like, we gotta get a veteran in here. We
Speaker 1: gotta get somebody everybody, and then it feels like we're good.
Speaker 1: We're good here, We're good, we're good here. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see what we got with that and all that, and
Speaker 1: that is I didn't even think about that, but that
Speaker 1: would be ironic in the Philadelphia. But you know, let's
Speaker 1: not forget he's super Bowl, yeah, like in the middle
Speaker 1: and then he signed in Philadelphia after Dallas was like
Speaker 1: we're good and yeah, wow. I hadn't thought about that
Speaker 1: for everybody. But and again, like I have, I bet
Speaker 1: I bet the people upstairs would laugh at us if
Speaker 1: we brought up Foles, because they laugh at us when
Speaker 1: we suggest everything. But um, there's just there's gonna be
Speaker 1: players available later this summer that aren't available right now.
Speaker 1: They laughed when you said we needed a better receiver
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, better than this. They didn't laugh halfway
Speaker 1: through the season. That's what I'm saying. They laugh and
Speaker 1: they're like, we're good's that's everybody was agreeing on it.
Speaker 1: It's it's a bad idea until they decided it's a
Speaker 1: good idea. That's what I always say, Like, we're stupid
Speaker 1: until they have the idea and then they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good idea. Glad we thought of it. Like okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, real quick, we're gonna go aha and take
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Speaker 1: segment of the Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, we're presented by Geico, and it's very
Speaker 1: clear it is time for a vacation from you guys,
Speaker 1: because uh, we're getting just to that point where it's
Speaker 1: just wheels off in this room. So, but this is
Speaker 1: going to be the next to last show. Next week
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Speaker 1: I think people are just like we candle care. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right, So we get back to these questions that
Speaker 1: we got from fans. We got one from hip hop
Speaker 1: hip Hypotency. I don't know, it's a name made up
Speaker 1: on Twitter. And here was this question, how much will
Speaker 1: it help hurt this young team to have the extra
Speaker 1: time on field leading up to and by playing in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game versus now playing seventeen games schedule.
Speaker 1: So I was I was feeling really positive about what
Speaker 1: you were saying, because I was like, of course it's
Speaker 1: going to help to have OTAs and like all this
Speaker 1: install I mean that stuff does matter. I still I
Speaker 1: don't let the Cowboys off the hook for how bad
Speaker 1: they were last year because a lot of good teams
Speaker 1: didn't have OTAs and still had good seasons and some
Speaker 1: that had new coaches. Yeah Cleveland comes to mind, yea, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: But then the second part of that, I don't feel
Speaker 1: good about it at all. Like I was, we were
Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday, you think you think it hurts them.
Speaker 1: I hate to be the of bad news. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is common knowledge among NFL fans, But like teams
Speaker 1: that play in the Hall of Fame game don't have
Speaker 1: a great postseason history, like and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence, Like you're reporting to camp basically two like
Speaker 1: two and a half, three weeks earlier than everybody else.
Speaker 1: This year's only a week. Well, that's better. It's an
Speaker 1: extra preseason game. Even with the shortened preseason, it's less
Speaker 1: preseason time. And I know the starters aren't doing all that,
Speaker 1: But the point is that is a slog from July.
Speaker 1: What we're probably leaving for California on like the eighteenth,
Speaker 1: and like the third week of July eighteenth until January ninth,
Speaker 1: and then if you're good enough to be in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that's another I mean that is a lot. Super Bowl
Speaker 1: is second week in in February. That's that is a
Speaker 1: long term. That is a slog, and I just like
Speaker 1: I get it. You want time on task, but it's
Speaker 1: a lot to expect people's bodies to hold up over
Speaker 1: that much more importantly, to stay mentally engaged. That's the
Speaker 1: hard part when you go through a long NFL season
Speaker 1: is to keep yourself mentally engaged the whole time and
Speaker 1: not allow yourself to be distracted by all things that
Speaker 1: can distract a player during a season. The only thing
Speaker 1: that I think this year is a little bit different,
Speaker 1: and I agree, I mean if you do something for
Speaker 1: that long, for the Hall of Fame game and no
Speaker 1: one's having any success, I think there may be something
Speaker 1: to that. But I do think there's a lot of players,
Speaker 1: guys that are on the roster that still haven't played
Speaker 1: a lot of football because there was no preseason last year.
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing about getting another game that
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'd like to see that. I
Speaker 1: think of a guy like Rico Daddle made the team
Speaker 1: last year. We'll see if he makes it again this year,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't had that time to even run the
Speaker 1: ball a lot and be the guy, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: he will this year. In preseason he'll be the guy,
Speaker 1: probably starting some games. But because I don't think pauler
Speaker 1: it will play a lot either. But I just think
Speaker 1: there are players. There's even the Tarrant Steels of the world.
Speaker 1: His first game was against the Rams and and those
Speaker 1: guys on Sunday Night football. I mean, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see him play a little bit more against competition, you know,
Speaker 1: from a confidence standpoint and all that. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that is a that is a really good point. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they leaned on a lot of young guys who didn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of reps before the season started last year,
Speaker 1: and which I say this every year, but this year
Speaker 1: probably even more so, Like get those starters out of
Speaker 1: the preseason games, like they would play for me by
Speaker 1: starters would play two games. There's two preseason games this year,
Speaker 1: the second and the third. That's how about And I'm
Speaker 1: only talk part of those games. How about two preseason series,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, hey, I think you gotta do some
Speaker 1: I think you gotta get them some work. But it's
Speaker 1: only two games. I'm even really dressing them with the
Speaker 1: intent that are going to play at all that first
Speaker 1: game and that last game, I would not have them
Speaker 1: out there at all. I don't care. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the NFL is would would come in, you know,
Speaker 1: with a uniform policy, but I'm putting Dak out in
Speaker 1: a red jersey just to see what happens, just like
Speaker 1: he's gonna wear red guys. I don't care, you know,
Speaker 1: find me right. That would probably only put a bull's
Speaker 1: eye on them even more. But you know, but you
Speaker 1: know the other thing I would do if I were
Speaker 1: if I were Mike McCarthy this year, I would you
Speaker 1: got that two weeks now, between your final preseason game
Speaker 1: and the opening game that first week, not the week
Speaker 1: of the game, but that first week. I would probably
Speaker 1: give these guys day, maybe two days off, get them
Speaker 1: out of here, let them relax, let them mentally unwind
Speaker 1: from training camp, and then come back refreshed and ready
Speaker 1: to go. I think that would be a good thing because,
Speaker 1: like again, for me, it's more of the totality of
Speaker 1: staying engaged that whole time. You gotta find those moments
Speaker 1: where you can give players an opportunity to mentally dissigate.
Speaker 1: I feel like, sorry, I was just gonna say, I
Speaker 1: feel like when you look at the roster, to me personally,
Speaker 1: there are so many new names, so so many names
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, who is this guys? It looks
Speaker 1: so different than years before. You're getting to know these
Speaker 1: players now. And a lot of these games, I mean,
Speaker 1: guys that would play in that game. Our guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be in the back, you know, in the bottom
Speaker 1: part of the depth chart anyways, And to me, you
Speaker 1: take that let them go for us. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: boring to watch, probably, but it's a crucial game and
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely needed for these guys, and you
Speaker 1: talk about keeping up or like staying engage and lasting
Speaker 1: through a whole season or whatever, you gotta remember that
Speaker 1: most of these guys, hopefully you won't need them during
Speaker 1: their real games, so they're not their bodies are not
Speaker 1: having to go through that kind of battle that you
Speaker 1: go through during a game day, so they're staying kind
Speaker 1: of fresh. They're just having to practice during the week
Speaker 1: and then if you come to use them. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that logic to me makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the thing in the preseason, even
Speaker 1: if they're not playing much in the games, they still
Speaker 1: out practices throughout the week, so again they're still having
Speaker 1: to be mentally engaged throughout the week. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's good idea to find moments in a long season
Speaker 1: where you can tell your team literally get away for
Speaker 1: a second, take a day, don't don't be around football
Speaker 1: for a day, and just enjoy still happen. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this America's team is all great. Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans love it. But the Cowboys, I'm sorry they got
Speaker 1: screwed by the NFL this year with the schedule. This
Speaker 1: this is I don't think this is a good advantage
Speaker 1: for them at all if you're going to put them
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame game, you know, which means
Speaker 1: they have to start practice to all that. Most teams
Speaker 1: with this extra week that you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to some you know, space
Speaker 1: camp here. I mean they they they're done on They
Speaker 1: have a Sunday game. When have you ever seen that
Speaker 1: they have a Sunday game on August twenty ninth to
Speaker 1: accommodate the NFL tbou and and and to play the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and all this on the twenty ninth, a noon
Speaker 1: Sunday preseason game. And then they they get they get
Speaker 1: ten days off but before their game against Thursday night
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Everybody else is probably gonna play a
Speaker 1: Saturday game on preseason and they'll play earliest Thursday, right Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 1: Most teams are going to get fifteen days between the
Speaker 1: last game this one and the Cowboys get tent that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I didn't think about that. That
Speaker 1: is not I mean, that's that's that's not a fair situation.
Speaker 1: It really isn't, Especially when you saw the email come
Speaker 1: through or something that says, the Bucks, the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: the Steelers will all get to start training camp a
Speaker 1: week early. I don't understand this, but the Steelers and
Speaker 1: Cowboys because they play in the Hall of Fame, the
Speaker 1: Bucks because they play on Thursday to open the season.
Speaker 1: Also the Cowboys do as well. It's like, which is why,
Speaker 1: maybe this is petty. Doesn't make sense to me. That
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Maybe this is petty on my part,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, the Cowboys are in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game because they're a draw. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: they have guys going into the Hall of Fame, but
Speaker 1: they're a draw. And they'll be on national TV to
Speaker 1: in the preseason because they're a draw. And I just
Speaker 1: hope that nobody important plays in either game, Like just
Speaker 1: get them all out of there. Sorry NFL, sorry that
Speaker 1: you're not getting what you want out of this, but
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn Like anybody that matters to
Speaker 1: the success of my season is gonna do next to
Speaker 1: nothing in those I hope Sunflower is a sponsor because
Speaker 1: every time you show back, he's gonna be I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm nut, I'm dead serious, Like I wouldn't give I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give anybody important more than three or four series
Speaker 1: max across this entire preseason. See the Cowboys starting lineup.
Speaker 1: Can't wait, Garrett Gilbert football line back? Everybody and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: n McEwan, yeah, I hope it happens. I want to
Speaker 1: see that. I actually want to see that. That would
Speaker 1: be awesome. At least that might get well. Never mind,
Speaker 1: because Jason Garry is not here anymore. Who knows how McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, our training camp, like you know, beach,
Speaker 1: they got watermelon king over here, throwing watermelons around, smashing
Speaker 1: I mean McCarthy. I know Covid was part of it,
Speaker 1: but he was pretty good about, you know, giving them
Speaker 1: separating life from football. I'm sure he'll come up with something.
Speaker 1: I heard a story the other day about Jimmy Johnson,
Speaker 1: and I'll say this because Jimmy Johnson. Everybody loves Jimmy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was when the Cowboys were winning. That
Speaker 1: was the toughest all that Jimmy Johnson every single season.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Cowboys when he was at Miami,
Speaker 1: when he was at college, he took his team one
Speaker 1: day to the beach or to the pool, and just
Speaker 1: when they felt like they really needed it, you know,
Speaker 1: so I think coaches have a sense of doing that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the beach for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was was the thing you know all the time. It
Speaker 1: got to the point where you know, you were like,
Speaker 1: you're trying to surprise them, but it's like there's nine
Speaker 1: buses out there that are running. You know, we're going somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the lifts aren't even up in the air, you know,
Speaker 1: those cars to always think he was going to catch
Speaker 1: those guys off guard, and it it was like, bro, you
Speaker 1: remember how hard it is to move a ninety man
Speaker 1: roster anywhere, Like people are gonna know you remember the
Speaker 1: day I think we were all here, I think a fifteen.
Speaker 1: Maybe you remember the day when when they were gonna
Speaker 1: leave one day early, Yes, And it was the biggest
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get fired if you tell anyone. Everybody
Speaker 1: was like the worst kept secret because the time they said, guys,
Speaker 1: we're actually gonna go to the airport and we're gonna leave,
Speaker 1: it told the whole team and the team was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, everybody was like everybody by that point, everybody,
Speaker 1: you can't tell anyone. As we're packing our suitcases playing sight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brad Sham I think didn't know. I think it was
Speaker 1: Brad Sham. Brad was like, yeah, Brad was a little bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game, it was a little bad, but he got
Speaker 1: over all right. I do want to try to get
Speaker 1: to two more questions here before we end the show.
Speaker 1: The first of those questions is the position battle you're
Speaker 1: most intrigued to watch this training camp, And then I
Speaker 1: want you to predict how you think it's going to
Speaker 1: play out. Oh man, that's a good one. I mean,
Speaker 1: how could it be anywhere but the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, take your pick, like, give me one, Okay,
Speaker 1: take everybody, Okay, all right, um, all right, I mean
Speaker 1: it's really all of them. But I guess I'll just
Speaker 1: stick true to my brand and I mean safety, I
Speaker 1: guess just because Jeron Curse, what's his role in that
Speaker 1: whole thing. I feel good that Donovan Wilson will have
Speaker 1: one of the starting spots, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a guarantee. And you know, throw Mukuamu, don't forget about
Speaker 1: Darien Thompson. Yeah, there's just I don't know what that's
Speaker 1: gonna look like. Predict outcome Donovan Wilson and Demante Kizie.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's healthy enough to be doing what
Speaker 1: he's doing right now, then that boats well. Amber. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I've been intrigued this whole whole off
Speaker 1: season about the linebacker position, and we talked about it,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how much of an actual position
Speaker 1: battle because I think that you got your guys who
Speaker 1: are pretty set and you know, okay, these are the
Speaker 1: guy who are expected to be. But it does bring
Speaker 1: me a lot of curiosity as to what would happen
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks into the season and how those
Speaker 1: guys are actually playing and if whether or not, Okay,
Speaker 1: do you take out now Late and vendorsh and Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and put in some of these guys and US
Speaker 1: starters and change that up. I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all of them are
Speaker 1: going to get to play one way or another. But
Speaker 1: it does I am very curious of just how that
Speaker 1: whole group is going to turn out level wise, not
Speaker 1: necessarily position battle, but just how that whole group is
Speaker 1: gonna end up being. But I wouldn't make a I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past anyone. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I'm using that saying right or properly, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: think that they will stick to Layton and Jaileen just
Speaker 1: because of who they are in their position, or their contract,
Speaker 1: Jaileen's contract, or any of that. I think that maybe
Speaker 1: this year they've recapacitated in their head after what happened
Speaker 1: at the tackle position or whatever last year in the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think maybe the pride goes to the
Speaker 1: side and they will make wiser choices if they see
Speaker 1: it fit and need it and it's someone that has
Speaker 1: earned that spot to go in. Rather than that is,
Speaker 1: they're not bound to either one of those guys beyond
Speaker 1: this year, and so they can be a little more
Speaker 1: flexible right in how they evaluate and who they decide
Speaker 1: they're gonna let play in other years where they may
Speaker 1: have been like, hey, we still got another couple of years,
Speaker 1: Well we gotta keep them. From the standpoint of money,
Speaker 1: like that may help them make that decision to keep
Speaker 1: him in there, but they're not tied to anybody at
Speaker 1: this point the linebacker position other than Parsons. I think
Speaker 1: everybody else who knows what happens with him quit Mine's
Speaker 1: the center position. I think that, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how that's going to work out, But you know,
Speaker 1: when you think about who the front runner is, the
Speaker 1: front runner is a fifth round pick entering his second year.
Speaker 1: He's only played a few games in Tyler Biadish and
Speaker 1: you know, I think that he's not that he can't
Speaker 1: be that far ahead of Matt farniok or even Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: And I still think there's a guy on the street
Speaker 1: that we all know that they could they could bring
Speaker 1: back as well, so in Joe Looney or any other
Speaker 1: veteran for that for that matter. So I'm my prediction
Speaker 1: is your starting center is not on the roster. Okay,
Speaker 1: safety was a bad answer. I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but like, defensive tackle is probably the
Speaker 1: position that you would have the hardest time in projecting
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Like Tristan Hill's not even practicing OsO
Speaker 1: Diggi Zoo was drafted higher than Neville Gallimore was, which
Speaker 1: just so they clearly like him a lot. What's Brent
Speaker 1: Urban gonna do? I mean future Hall of Famer Quentin
Speaker 1: Bojanas here, so yeah, I mean, who the hell knows
Speaker 1: what's going to happen there? Yeah, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll throw out I thought for sure one of you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna take this, especially since Dave took two. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but the fact that nobody mentioned cornerback, which to me
Speaker 1: is the most intriguing because if you look at whoever
Speaker 1: you think is the best of that group, and you
Speaker 1: look at not necessarily the worst. But let's go five
Speaker 1: six on the depth chart, what's the difference between those players?
Speaker 1: As far as what we know right now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's a really big delta between them. I
Speaker 1: don't know how whom I thought it was just one, two, three, four.
Speaker 1: And then like listen to this. You got Anthony Brown, obviously,
Speaker 1: you got Trayvon Diggs, you got Jordan Lewis. Then you
Speaker 1: get into the draft picks where you got Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: and you've got Nashan right, you've got Rashad Robinson from
Speaker 1: last year. If they're gonna keep him, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're keephim at cornerback, sorry, Reggie Robinson. If they're gonna
Speaker 1: keep him at cornerback. Um, A lot of people still
Speaker 1: forget I kind of forget about him. But does Marie's
Speaker 1: Kennedy play into this, Like Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 1: They got him last year he opted out. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: a guy that shows up at camp and he's a veteran.
Speaker 1: Maybe shows up at camp and he's better than these
Speaker 1: other veterans. Right. All I'm saying is there are enough
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of just in that middle area,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that any of them stand out
Speaker 1: to me is, Oh, this guy's so much better than
Speaker 1: everybody else. The only guy that's a sure given. I mean,
Speaker 1: like Diggs is gonna make the team, and Joseph and
Speaker 1: all that, But I mean you meant you didn't even
Speaker 1: mention one cornerback that's gonna make the team. CJ. Goodwin.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't think of him as cornerback. He
Speaker 1: is the best special team in the league opinion as
Speaker 1: a corner because I think if ye Kennedy could be
Speaker 1: better than goodwinnes but teams he could. That's how That's
Speaker 1: why they got him. I think Goodwin is a Goodwin
Speaker 1: is an ace. Yeah, this guy's this guy's really good.
Speaker 1: I think of Kennedy in the same vein as Goodwin.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I mean, can you keep two of those?
Speaker 1: Maybe one of them gotta be able to play in
Speaker 1: a pinch at corner. And actually Goodwin did last year.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, he actually had a role
Speaker 1: in one of those games. Yeah he was the he
Speaker 1: was the he. I mean he was basically. But the Hurts.
Speaker 1: Was it the spy? Yeah, yeah he was. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say he spied somebody. I hope it wasn't Lamar
Speaker 1: because it didn't work. No that it was. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was Hurt. It was Jalen Hurts. All right, real quick,
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna end the show. I want
Speaker 1: you guys to tell me what is a realistic win
Speaker 1: total for this team in twenty twenty one eight? I
Speaker 1: didn't even go up because we got seventeen games. I
Speaker 1: got a losing record game. What's real realistic win total?
Speaker 1: Um um? Only at me? I'm just I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean what it's realistic? I mean with this, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would say I think ten is realistic. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think. I think I think the guys that they lost.
Speaker 1: Can you be four games better than what you had
Speaker 1: last year? Four games better? It's tough to do. But
Speaker 1: the guys that you lost, and how much you lean
Speaker 1: on those three players the quarterback and your two tackles.
Speaker 1: I think you can be four games better they have
Speaker 1: On paper, they have one the second easiest schedule in
Speaker 1: the NFL, which is kind of wild, Like when you
Speaker 1: look at it, it just doesn't that doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it should be true. But I mean, they ran the
Speaker 1: numbers and it is so yeah, I look at the schedule.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a tough schedule. But yeah, good ah man,
Speaker 1: they're so sorry. I don't mean to take long, but
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I could possibly see ten, just like
Speaker 1: I could see eight. That's a safe answer. That's definitely
Speaker 1: a safe, safe answer. But just Nick made a good
Speaker 1: point about the guys that they're getting back, and based
Speaker 1: on what happened last year and kind of how they played.
Speaker 1: With having those guys back in, you should be better.
Speaker 1: You should be able to win more games than you
Speaker 1: did last year. Uh. So, I have full trust that
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott will be a better player this year and
Speaker 1: he will help the offense um and make more balance
Speaker 1: on both in the running game and then the passing
Speaker 1: game with Dak Prescog being back in. So I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna copy your answer and go with something like ten,
Speaker 1: you know, and ten and seven. It just doesn't seem it.
Speaker 1: It's not as great obviously. It's like it's gonna take
Speaker 1: us a while to adjust to that, and by the
Speaker 1: time they do, then now it'll be there's no way
Speaker 1: you can't keep it odd, dumb. Nobody does this. No,
Speaker 1: nobody has odd numbers in your schedule. It'll be eighteen
Speaker 1: and two within the next few years. I'm two preseason games. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: is it cheating to just say I expect him to
Speaker 1: win the division and like the wind total doesn't matter? Cheating? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: all right, but thanks for that that bonus answer. I
Speaker 1: expect them to win the division. Uh, it's a bad division,
Speaker 1: that's part of it. Like, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: they are an elite NFL team, but I think they're
Speaker 1: a good NFL team, And I think that the NFC
Speaker 1: East is the worst division in football. So, you know,
Speaker 1: if Dak's worth the money and all of these guys
Speaker 1: coming back from injuries are as good as we think
Speaker 1: they are, they should be good enough to do you
Speaker 1: think it will continue to be the worst division in football?
Speaker 1: Because I look across like it wasn't just a conboy Giant.
Speaker 1: The Giants lost their best player as well. Like it,
Speaker 1: I think all of these teams have a case to improve.
Speaker 1: And I you know, again, defense is hard to predict,
Speaker 1: and that's the strength of Washington. So I think you
Speaker 1: got better on offense too. They did. Um, but I
Speaker 1: just I just I what am I trying to say? Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: I do think it'll get better. I still think it
Speaker 1: is among it's among the two or three worst. I mean,
Speaker 1: the AFC South looks like a wreck for sure, you know, um,
Speaker 1: but I think the NFC East is in that conversation. So,
Speaker 1: you know what, seven wins won the division last year.
Speaker 1: So and it's weird with the extra game, but I
Speaker 1: would guess seven or eight wins is good enough. And
Speaker 1: I think they're probably a little bit better than that
Speaker 1: if everybody's healthy. So nine and nine and eight at minimum,
Speaker 1: and then I could see them realistically maybe ten or eleven. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think eight. I don't even
Speaker 1: think nine's gonna win this division this year. I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna better than that. I think this division
Speaker 1: like it went through some like whenever Washington wins the division,
Speaker 1: you know, there's some problems going on to division, like
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen enough in the modern NFL. Did
Speaker 1: those problems get fixed, Like it's perfically good enough to
Speaker 1: make the Giants like, yes, is he not one of
Speaker 1: the best three running backs in the NFL. He's a
Speaker 1: running back, Okay, I get that, But their offense runs
Speaker 1: through him, and so everything else that they do comes
Speaker 1: off of them being able to do special things with him.
Speaker 1: So if they don't have him, I think it makes
Speaker 1: a difference with them. I just I just don't believe
Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones. I guess that's yeah. I don't either,
Speaker 1: But but I still think sa Quan can be sa Quan,
Speaker 1: And if he's sa Quon, I think that's gonna give
Speaker 1: him a few more wins. I think Washington got better offensively.
Speaker 1: I think their defense is among one of the best
Speaker 1: in the league. So again, I just think that overall,
Speaker 1: I think the division is going to be better than
Speaker 1: it was last year. I think last year was an anomaly.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's an anomaly across the league. You
Speaker 1: don't see divisions like that that are that bad. As
Speaker 1: bad as the MC East was last year. They don't
Speaker 1: say that bad for a long time. Like it's just
Speaker 1: like you said, it's cyclical, and it also has to
Speaker 1: do with the teams you're playing, and that what's happening
Speaker 1: with those teams too, Like it's in twenty fifteen, it
Speaker 1: was the same thing. It was really bad. Who wants
Speaker 1: to win that. I think Washington won it, like to
Speaker 1: your point, you know, everybody was down. But then in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen you know, the Cowboys and the Giants,
Speaker 1: where I think were the two two best teams, you know,
Speaker 1: then they both make the playoffs. I mean, so, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it just has a way of kind of
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they'll be great though.
Speaker 1: I still think it's not gonna be among the best
Speaker 1: divisions in the league. But I do think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be around the middle, and I think that's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be better than it was last year. I just think
Speaker 1: so I think the team, I think the team that
Speaker 1: wins the division will be better, you know what. I like,
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't winner, not necessarily the whole division, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see a team with a
Speaker 1: losing record win this division again. But I still, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, let's just hypothetically say the Cowboys win
Speaker 1: it at ten and seven, which is a much better
Speaker 1: record than the team last year. But like, I don't
Speaker 1: think that means top to bottom. I just don't, like,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Philly's gonna have to go through
Speaker 1: some stuff. I think, like they just Philly's gonna be
Speaker 1: the only team in my PA and it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be better. I think the Cowboys will be better. I
Speaker 1: think Washington will be better, and I think New York
Speaker 1: will be better just because they're getting players back. They're
Speaker 1: gonna they have to be better than they were last
Speaker 1: year because they're getting key players back, they get Galladay Holiday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean their offense could be you know, and I
Speaker 1: want to say they gotta They picked up an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Is that like a big time offensive or somebody was
Speaker 1: coming back from injury. Put me on the spot, I
Speaker 1: can't remember right off, but their offensive lineman was they
Speaker 1: cut off as Hitler was better? But either way, I
Speaker 1: do think they Yeah, I do think that they they're
Speaker 1: going to be better. I think the Giants will be better.
Speaker 1: How many games better, I'm not sure, but I think
Speaker 1: they'll be better. I think Washington will be better, and
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys will be better. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I just I still again, I still think, go
Speaker 1: go down the list and like, tell me a division
Speaker 1: that is definitively worse and maybe the only one that Well,
Speaker 1: that's also when we're working based on what we know,
Speaker 1: and I know that's going to change. But on paper
Speaker 1: right now, maybe the AFC South like that's but but
Speaker 1: the AFC South has the Titans, who have you know,
Speaker 1: back to back playoff trips, Like there's a lot to
Speaker 1: like about that team. Yeah, so I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I do think I expect the Cowboys to win the
Speaker 1: division and get to the playoffs. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, but that's what I expect.
Speaker 1: I know we're up against it in a time. But
Speaker 1: if you just went down, if you just went down
Speaker 1: the schedule, which is not a good thing to do
Speaker 1: because it's so early and it never plays out that way.
Speaker 1: But even if you're even if you're just right on
Speaker 1: the fifty fifty optimistic, but you know, I'm a Homer
Speaker 1: fan or anything like that, it's hard not to say
Speaker 1: eleven twelve wins, Yeah, that's great schedule. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're like special, they should win. Yeah, they should win,
Speaker 1: but we know that sometimes they don't. Sometimes they'll sneak
Speaker 1: some of those losses into wins. So you know, we're
Speaker 1: just saying that nine out of ten because of what
Speaker 1: we've seen, but the schedule will kind of look if
Speaker 1: you look at it, you could easily go to twelve.
Speaker 1: You could go to twelve and five. I don't like
Speaker 1: to say the number for that very reason, just like you,
Speaker 1: impossible to predict. But they were in they had a
Speaker 1: chance to win the division on the last day of
Speaker 1: the season with everything awful that happened and every and
Speaker 1: it was a lot of awful things. And if we
Speaker 1: are right about even half of the stuff that they're getting,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry if dad, and I'm king Dak lover.
Speaker 1: If dad's that good, they should win the division if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, because the division's not that strong. By the way,
Speaker 1: give me one of those tackles and Dak, I think
Speaker 1: they're they're a playoff contender. There are you know that
Speaker 1: they can be a really, really good team, and that
Speaker 1: I think it's a completely realistic expectation. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's realistic they could win the Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's realistic. Yeah, I think it's realistic that they
Speaker 1: should be in the tournament if all these players are
Speaker 1: worth it, if you get there, who knows what happens, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, what realistic is is that you can definitely
Speaker 1: argue both ways. I mean, you can easily see both
Speaker 1: ways playing out. Every year, I feel like, regardless of
Speaker 1: what happened the previous season, you come back with higher
Speaker 1: expectations or newer expectations, and again you come back with excitement.
Speaker 1: But as we've seen in the past, sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who the opponent is whatsoever. Does not matter who
Speaker 1: you are playing. The Cowboys sometimes end up just biding
Speaker 1: themselves in the butt and making their own mistakes, and
Speaker 1: then you end up losing a game that could have
Speaker 1: easily be won by the Cowboys, but they didn't because
Speaker 1: why they're doing dumb stuff. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: you you know what you can wear, they can be
Speaker 1: with the players that they have, You know that, man,
Speaker 1: this could be a really good team. But then you
Speaker 1: see certain things how they play out, and it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who who's in the schedule, and it
Speaker 1: ends up being not turning out as good as it
Speaker 1: should be. So I think that it could go either way.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I know I say it all
Speaker 1: the time, but I just love watching you just adapt
Speaker 1: to the misery that is being being a fan of something.
Speaker 1: That's how it's not fun. It's fun five percent of
Speaker 1: the time. Well that that's those those one those anomaly
Speaker 1: years when your team gets all the way to a championship,
Speaker 1: like that's when it actually you can sit back and
Speaker 1: just be like, man, it's good to be a fan today.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't happen very often, and you haven't wait
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to wait sometimes, and it happens in
Speaker 1: any fan, by the way, no matter what team you're
Speaker 1: a fan of, you're probably gonna go through those periods
Speaker 1: where it's gonna seem like forever since you've been a champion,
Speaker 1: and so it's a part of it. It's just a
Speaker 1: part of fandom. All right. We appreated you guys, Jonnus.
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