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Speaker 2: next guess is a nationally recognized author, podcaster, and motivational

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Speaker 2: speaker whose storytelling journey begin on a sixty acre cotton

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Speaker 2: farm in with Tompka, Alabama, which is right outside of Montgomery,

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Speaker 2: where she was born. The third of seventeen children, Now

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Speaker 2: retired it executive. A bestselling memoir, Daddy's House, a daughter's

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Speaker 2: memoir of setbacks, triumphs, and rising above her roots, offers

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Speaker 2: a raw and healing account of childhood, trauma, domestic violence,

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Speaker 2: and resilience. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class.

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Speaker 2: Mildred J.

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Speaker 3: Mills. Hey, don Mildred, Well how about you miss Mills?

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Speaker 3: Which which way, Mildred is wonderful, great, you look very fashionable.

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Speaker 2: Is fashionate part of your past and your current future?

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Speaker 3: Well we move forward?

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that. No, no, no, I

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Speaker 4: was a model at one point, but I.

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Speaker 3: Also okay, you see you model at what point?

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Speaker 4: I was? But I also grew up picking cotton, so

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Speaker 4: there were no modeling in that in that field?

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Speaker 2: How do you balance? How did how did that happen

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Speaker 2: to go from? Because that's part of your intro cotton,

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Speaker 2: you know, And you hear that word cotton, you hear

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Speaker 2: hard work, you hear slavery, you hear South.

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Speaker 3: Did I miss anything?

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Speaker 4: No, you didn't. It's so funny that you should mention slavery.

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Speaker 4: When I one of my nieces told her little boy

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Speaker 4: that I had written a book. He said, and he said,

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Speaker 4: she grew up picking cotton. He said, WHOA were you

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Speaker 4: a slave? I said, no, I wasn't a slave, but

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Speaker 4: I worked on daddy's far.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about picking cotton? What was that like?

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's a it's a brutal business, it really really

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Speaker 4: is it. You know, think about being a little girl

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Speaker 4: sticking your fingers in those bulls. I don't know bulls

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Speaker 4: kind of tears your cuticles up.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard. You have to bend your back.

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Speaker 4: Of course, when you're little you have to you can

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Speaker 4: reach up, but as you grow older you have to bend.

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Speaker 4: So you're bent at a ninety degree angle all day

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Speaker 4: picking cotton. And it's a it's a nasty business and

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Speaker 4: it hurts.

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Speaker 3: Now as you're growing up.

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Speaker 2: You know your book, I got to copy your book,

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Speaker 2: Daddy's House, A Dolter's memoir of set back triumphs and

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Speaker 2: rising above her roots?

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Speaker 3: What are you saying in this title?

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying in that title is where I grew

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Speaker 4: up was in my daddy's house, and nobody there was

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Speaker 4: no confusion about who ruled that house.

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Speaker 3: That was my daddy.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying in that title about a daughter's

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Speaker 4: memoir of growing up and rising above her roots, You know,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where you're born. I was born in

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Speaker 3: He was pretty.

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Speaker 4: He was a rough guy, but he taught me so

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Speaker 4: much about life, and so I rose above those routes

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Speaker 4: by becoming somebody. As a child, I was who my

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Speaker 4: know who that was as a child, but as I grew,

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Speaker 4: you know, I just decided that I wanted something different

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Speaker 3: So why was important you write a book? It was important,

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Speaker 4: I think so many of us have so much knowledge

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Speaker 4: the beautiful things that happened to me and as a

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just think about these things. And I

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Speaker 4: You know, they say ignorance is bliss, and I absolutely

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Speaker 4: first of all, women hadn't been able to do these things.

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Speaker 4: And when I met the realtor, he said, you're divorced.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, wow, well I really don't care. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know, when you think about it that

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Speaker 2: you know slavery, you talk about emancipation, you talk about

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Speaker 3: It's not that far apart. It's not that far that

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Speaker 2: Now, when you this is a very honest book that

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Speaker 2: you've written, you're married.

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Speaker 2: Thought about this idea of pretty much confessing about your

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Speaker 2: you overcome the odds. Oh, this is about overcoming their odds.

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Speaker 2: It is what was it conversation like with your husband.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a conversation with my husband about writing

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Speaker 4: my book. The first time my husband knew what was

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Speaker 3: Was it published? Yeah? What was it published? When you

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Speaker 3: read it? I was finished with it for sure. I

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Speaker 3: think it might have been published me too, pull it

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Speaker 3: back those memories. Yeah, it was absolutely it was published. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it was published. Okay, why did you do it that way?

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Speaker 3: Because first of all, it is my story?

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Speaker 4: And second of all, you know, the more people you

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Speaker 4: stick you say, well, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure I really care what anybody thinks about it,

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Speaker 4: an honest story. And you know, I remember being in

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Speaker 4: is before I published anything, so and this person would

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Speaker 4: always say all these negative things, and you know, you

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Speaker 4: didn't you remember memoir? It is my story, and if

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Speaker 4: you have a different one, you tell it.

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Speaker 2: But in telling the story, and you have somebody you love, yes,

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Speaker 2: and you still move forward with this honest telling. And

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Speaker 2: I want to say, the honest telling is Daddy's House,

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Speaker 2: a daughter's memoir, memoir of set back triumphs and rising

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Speaker 2: above her roots.

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Speaker 3: I'm speaking with Mildred J.

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Speaker 2: Mills, the author of this basically an autobiography of her

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Speaker 2: life of a resilience. What does resilience mean to you?

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Speaker 2: And I will get back to your husband, but I

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Speaker 2: want to get the resilience first.

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Speaker 4: Resilience to me me, Well, I'm an aries woman. Let

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Speaker 4: me just say that, you know, and I mean that

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Speaker 4: doesn't define me. But I am just willing to take

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Speaker 4: chances first of all. And resilience means to me, when

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Speaker 4: you get knocked down, get up, don't lay there wallowing

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Speaker 4: in it. I've said to my children before. I remember

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Speaker 4: son headed to University of Michigan when he was starting college,

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Speaker 4: and I said, we all have we all have.

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Speaker 3: Set That was your son with your first husband.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's no, my son is my youngest child.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I apologize, that's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I said to him, we all fall. But

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Speaker 4: It's whether you sit there and stay in it. I said,

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Speaker 3: So resilience to me means move on.

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Speaker 4: I'm no victim. I've never been a victim, and I'm

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Speaker 4: take those lessons and learn from you.

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Speaker 3: And read your book. I don't want to. I never

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Speaker 3: saw you as a victim in this book. I'm not actim.

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Speaker 3: And I want to make sure.

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Speaker 2: People understand that this is a book about her life,

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Speaker 2: about the relationships the men who came into her life.

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Speaker 2: The man who's currently in her life is supporting her,

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Speaker 2: and I love her, loves her dealers, she loves him

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Speaker 2: and the children that are in her life. But along

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Speaker 4: Well, I get up and look in that mirror every

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Speaker 4: day and I say, you know, you've been through some things,

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Speaker 4: But guess what you can teach somebody else to keep

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Speaker 4: moving through these things, because just you can't teach resilience.

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Speaker 4: And to me, failure is not an option. It's never

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Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't going back to that cotton field.

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Speaker 4: I grew up picking cotton. So I figured out how

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Speaker 3: And I didn't always.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't always sit here in a nice, as you say,

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Speaker 4: fashionable kind of way, you know, But she said.

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Speaker 3: I can't see her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but she said, if you only have one dress,

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Speaker 4: or if you only had one she said, pair of underwear,

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Speaker 4: whatever that is. She said, wash it the night before,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of pride in being resilient. You know,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me

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Speaker 2: Rashaun McDonald. You know, I love your story. I love

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Speaker 3: One of my face.

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Speaker 2: Every people's attorney tesse efforts. You know she had. She

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Speaker 4: And this lady is oviicually educated, so you mean to

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Speaker 4: The first the person that had the first man that

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Speaker 2: But that's part of life. But one of the three

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Speaker 3: Fear, faith, not faith. Faith over fear, Faith over faith

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Speaker 4: But faith is you know, you walk to a door.

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Speaker 6: So well, i'd buy that if it was a real story.

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Speaker 6: It goes locks into three baths, you know, No, I

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Speaker 2: You know, the reason I'm impressed with you and impressed

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Speaker 2: and your book is telling your pain, and you're using

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Speaker 2: what you are doing. You know, I'm not you know

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Speaker 2: it's a different type of person that takes this story

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Speaker 2: to talk. You went, Dad, you don't when I'm gone.

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Speaker 3: Talk all you want to. My time on this war

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Speaker 3: is over is gone.

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Speaker 2: And then when you got out there, you know, the

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Speaker 2: teachers saw something in you academically and gave you an

443
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Speaker 2: option that you didn't even see. Because that's about mentorship.

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00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: That's about I will tell people, and I repeat the

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Speaker 2: story a lot. When I was fifteen years old. My

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00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: first job because my father was a truck driver. He

447
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: took me to get a job loading boxes. And the

448
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Speaker 2: first guys who impressed me were forkliff drivers, these black guys.

449
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Speaker 3: They were driving a forklift. Boy. There I was like,

450
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Speaker 3: I was like, my mom was dropped over. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: believe it.

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Speaker 2: And so, despite all my academic training in high school,

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Speaker 2: the job I wanted was to be a fork cliff driver.

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Speaker 2: And so when I got out of high school, I

455
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Speaker 2: became a forklift driver because that's all I wanted to be,

456
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Speaker 2: because that's all I thought I could be. But somebody

457
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: told you, no, you could be more than that. So

458
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: you've lived your life with somebody planting that sea is.

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Speaker 3: That's what this book about.

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00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: That book is about that because my mom always said

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Speaker 4: my mom and I talk about my children, and my

462
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 4: grandkids probably get sick of me saying what Mama told me.

463
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: Mama said, do the best you can what you have,

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Speaker 4: and whatever that is, you know you can always do

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Speaker 4: better if you just keep looking for keep your eyes

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Speaker 4: on the prize, keep looking. She said, don't be like me,

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Speaker 4: And I thought, Mama, what's wrong with you? She said,

468
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Speaker 4: don't allow somebody else to always have to hand you something.

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Speaker 4: She said, don't put yourself, she said, I want my

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Speaker 4: girls to have something for themselves. I always want you

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Speaker 4: to have something for yourself. And that always stayed with me.

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Speaker 4: And I remember my first husband said to me once that, well,

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Speaker 4: what are you gonna What do you want to go

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Speaker 4: get a job for. I said, I have a child

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Speaker 4: to take care of. And he said but and I thought,

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Speaker 4: but you're.

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Speaker 3: Not worthing me. You know, I'm gone.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, I said, God gave me gifts

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Speaker 4: that I must share, right, you know, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to share the gift of my hands and my talent

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Speaker 4: and all these things. I'm going to get out of

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Speaker 4: here and go to work and I will never ever

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Speaker 4: My mother said, have something for yourself, and I thought,

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Speaker 4: I'm never going to have to. I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: depend on somebody else.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you this question.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen years of age, you left the house, right, okay,

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Speaker 2: and you spend a dominant amount of your life not

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Speaker 2: in your father's house. Why is the name of your

490
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Speaker 2: book Daddy's House?

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Speaker 4: Because I mean, even when I left that house, when

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Speaker 4: I would go back to that house and Also when

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Speaker 4: my mother passed, we always said, we go into Daddy's house.

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Speaker 4: And I still see in that house. I was the

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Speaker 4: first of those seventeen children born in that house, and

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Speaker 4: it's still standing today. And when we and I have

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Speaker 4: three siblings who have built a house on the property

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Speaker 4: that I grew up on, and my parents left us

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Speaker 4: acreage on that property. So for you, at Christmas time

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Speaker 4: or Thanksgiving time, we go to Daddy's house, you know,

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Speaker 4: and we still call it Daddy's house. I call it

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Speaker 4: Daddy's house because that was very fond to me. And

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Speaker 4: actually a book person told me, well, I don't like

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Speaker 4: the name Daddy's house. And I said, I do you know.

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Speaker 4: I like the name of Daddy's house. And then I like,

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Speaker 4: you know what comes after that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important to tell your story. I

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00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: can question it. I can question it. I've been fortunate

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Speaker 2: in my life to be a storyteller. I like to

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Speaker 2: tell people I am a storyteller because I hear so

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Speaker 2: many stories. And I see you read so many different books,

512
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Speaker 2: and and but what I can read books about motivation,

513
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Speaker 2: I go, I do that. I can read books about

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Speaker 2: planning and goals. I said, I do that. But I

515
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: can't when I read this book, this is your fuck.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't in daddy's house. I was not picking college.

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Speaker 3: You were.

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Speaker 2: Nobody drove me to a school. In fact, my father

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00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: didn't want me to go to college.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: He wanted my sisters to go to college because he

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Speaker 2: thought that was what they were.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: But he thought I should be doing manual label. That

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Speaker 2: was the house I grew up in, and that was

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Speaker 2: my father's value. So I'm not upset with him because

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: Like you. I don't care what you do. I don't

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Speaker 3: care what you say. Dad. I'm going to college. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do this.

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Speaker 2: And I need to understand why I was going to

532
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Speaker 2: college because a teacher saw something in me and pushed

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Speaker 2: me to go to college after I made a commit

534
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Speaker 2: the commitment to be a fuck lyft driver.

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Speaker 3: And so that's what that's what my dream. I was

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Speaker 3: gonna mean, what else is there? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: Because that's all I knew. But so many people see

538
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: things in you that goes beyond that. So as you

539
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: go through life, I know in your book there's a

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00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 2: there's a pimp in your life, and there was a

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Speaker 2: lead to me.

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Speaker 1: Now I just want people to know because of you know,

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Speaker 1: but those are the moments when life.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you some stories in my life where

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00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: even though I didn't tell drugs, I was in drug

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00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: related environments, you know, and because that's what life is.

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00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: But as for aspiring entrepreneurs and creators, what advice do

548
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: you give them based on who you are and what

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00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: you've accomplished as a person who came from this point

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00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: in life, got educated, has had children, went in to

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00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: the direction of it, and we know they weren't.

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Speaker 3: Talking it on that cotton form.

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00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: Talk to us, having come from where I came from.

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Speaker 4: You know, I just say dream We're not dreaming big

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Speaker 4: enough some of us.

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Speaker 3: Right, Why do you say that?

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00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: I say that because, well, you didn't dream very big,

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Speaker 4: but something took you outside.

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00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, something took you outside of that.

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Speaker 4: In fact, open your mind up to see something. Besides,

561
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: you're in the environment you're living in. How many people

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00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: do you know have never left their hometown? There is

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Speaker 4: nothing better than this. Well, you know, I'm a very

564
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 4: curious woman. I was a very curious girl. I wanted

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: to see things. I read books. I wanted to know, well,

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Speaker 4: what is there besides what's going on right now.

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Speaker 3: So what I would say to.

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Speaker 4: Those aspiring entrepreneurs, don't listen to the naysayers. Go get

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Speaker 4: it if you have a dream, but don't expect somebody

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00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: else to pay for your dreams.

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Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of people who have dreams and

573
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: they want you to finance their dreams.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, I've got dreams, but.

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Speaker 4: I got off my backside and I worked my tail

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00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: off to make sure that I could I could put

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00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: the bill for my dreams. So I just say, get

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: up and don't allow anybody to take your dream away

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Speaker 4: from you.

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Speaker 2: She's the author of Daddy's House, a dollar's memoir of setbacks, triumphs,

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Speaker 2: and rising aboffer roots. I don't speak with Mildred Jay Mills. Mildred,

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Speaker 2: this is not the only book in your life.

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Speaker 3: No, it isn't. Yeah books coming up in the future,

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I have a book entitled The Hope Club, and it

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Speaker 4: is about the impact of incarceration on families, especially children.

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Speaker 4: And I'm writing this book because, in fact, it's now

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00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: with an editor writing this book because my grandchildren are

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Speaker 4: Two of my grandchildren are impacted by this, and I've

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Speaker 4: seen what such a life can do to children. I mean,

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Speaker 4: first it breaks up a family and then secondly, you know,

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Speaker 4: it just takes a parent away. I mean, there are

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Speaker 4: many ways that a parent can leave, but when they're

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Speaker 4: behind those bars and the only way they can see

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00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: them is through this plexiglass or whatever clanet glass. So

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Speaker 4: it puts a lot of strain on other people in

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Speaker 4: the life, especially that parent that's left behind, sometimes a grandparent,

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Speaker 4: sometimes aunts and uncles and all these things. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm writing that book and I have met so many

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Speaker 4: people who are actually i mean nonprofit folks and all

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Speaker 4: kinds of people who are doing things to help re entry.

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Speaker 4: And I'm specifically looking at the women who are incarcerated.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's how can we get Daddy's House.

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Speaker 4: Daddy's House is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. In fact,

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Speaker 4: if you google my name, Mildary J. Mills and Daddy's House,

606
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Speaker 4: you can see where it's sold. But who doesn't have Amazon?

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Speaker 4: I guess lots of people have Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Amazon's Amazon Amazon.

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Speaker 4: And the thing I would love though, if you read

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Speaker 4: my book, and if you've read my book, please leave

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Speaker 4: me a review. There are lots of reviews on the

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Speaker 4: book and reviews help that book get noticed.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you for coming on my show, Mildred. Again,

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Speaker 2: your stories compelling. Thank your husband for not going berserk

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Speaker 2: because they didn't read the book. Prime wrisen you and

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Speaker 2: realize now I guess what, honey, I didn't know, but

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Speaker 2: now I know. This is me an honest story. Ory

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Speaker 2: you know faith over here. Yes, thank you for coming

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Speaker 2: on my show, Mildred.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me. I greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 2: hosted by me Rashawn McDonald. Thank you to our guests

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Speaker 2: on the show today, and thank you our listening audience. Now,

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