1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR ever give. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome in side final hour tonight the Jason Smith 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Show with my bas friend Mike Harmon. Get those fours up. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: We got more big stuff on Lebron big WNBA story 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: coming up in about twenty minutes, but the next funeral 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: is the topic of the hour. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: Right now, go New York, Go New York. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Go. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: Well, pretty soon they'll be gone. You'll be right, they'll 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: be gone. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: He jumped on your wagon, he did, he did that. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: Noh helped carry you. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: And guide you past the Celtics. 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: And as soon as you cleared that hurdle, like it 22 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: was a level of a video game, he jumped off 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: and went the other rene. 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Done done, done, done, dun dundune. Now, first I want 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: to tell you I'm gonna say bad things about Tom Thibodeau, 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: and then it's I'm gonna say then it's gonna change, 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say bad things about him, but it's 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna turn out okay for him, not so much for 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: somebody else. 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: It turns out okay for him. 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, It's like, did you watch a new episode 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of Welcome to Wrexham. They had the whole Disney funny. 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: They had the whole episode. They did the whole episode 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: and it was hosted by Ryan Reynolds and Rob mcalanney, 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: where they did it like a Disney movie where here's, 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, the part of the beginning in the beginning 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: when one of the parents dies and they show something 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: bad happening to Wrexham, and then then it gets really worse, 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: but then the whole thing like a Disney episode, a 40 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Disney movie. Uh, this is kind of the same, the 41 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: same kind of thing. The pay Look, it's over for 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the Knicks. That's why I only got somewhat excited after 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: winning Game three, because what did I tell you? The 44 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: last couple of nights, they bought themselves another couple of days. Right, 45 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: they win Game three, they bought themselves a chance to 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: get back in the series and instead three to one, 47 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: and nobody comes back from three to one, certainly not 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: this next team that is not nearly defensively capable of 49 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: stopping this Pacers team. So the thing, the thing that 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: sticks out to me, right you want to talk about 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: TIBs and this and this series, is that it's amazing 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: to see him being out coached by Rick Carlisle to 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: this extent. And it kind of reminds me of when 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was running rough shot over the AFC East 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: for all those years before he started the Bill Belichick 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: that stunkin didn't know what he was doing in his 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: drafting guys from Division three and as their first draft pick. 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was smarter than everybody else. When he 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: promoted Matt Patricia and made him the OC. 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Mac Jones was a guy that was on a decent 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: trajectory and they said, here, we're gonna really screw this 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: kid over. 63 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: You know, Mac Jones. 64 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones is the guy that just, hey, 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: I just happened to play in the most talented offensive 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: team in the history of college football. Because everybody NFL 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: superstar his first year, pretty good, what'd you do? 68 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: You shuffled everything else what'd you do third year? 69 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: Hey, let's let's make it even more difficult and see 70 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: how much talent he can take away and see how 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: much you can do. 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 73 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: But what Belichick used to do that would used to 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: be infuriating is that he was such a good coat. 75 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: This is why he's the best coach I've seen, despite 76 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Spygate and everything else, is that when I would watch 77 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: him coach against the other AFC teams and they'd played 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: twice a year, and the first game, the Patriots game 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: plan would be something where it was good enough to 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: win playing one way, right, Like, here's a game where hey, 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: what did Tom Brady do? All he did was throw 82 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: short and Wes Welker had thirteen catches for you know, 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: eighty seven yards, but you know he was moving the chains. 84 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: Gronkowski had a big day. It was middle of the field, 85 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: middle of the field. The Patriots dominated middle of the field. Okay, 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: So then for the rematch eight, you know, seven, eight 87 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: weeks later, all right, hey, this is how they killed 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: us that first time. This is what we're gonna do. 89 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: And then what does Belichick do? No, Now they're gonna 90 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: run the football, and Steven Ridley would have a big day, 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: or Corey Dlon would have a big day and Brady would. 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Brady only threw for one hundred and seventy five yards 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: and one touchdown. We still lost twenty three to ten. 94 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Like what happened? Oh, because Corey Dyllon had this game 95 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: we ran for one hundred and ten yards, or Stephen 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Ridley had had twenty three carries for one hundred and 97 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: fifteen yards. Like this is what Belichick would do, is that, Okay, 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: we beat you that way last time. Now you're chasing us, right, 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: you're chasing us because you think we're gonna do this. 100 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do. And that's what it's 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: like watching Carlisle and and TIBs in this because clearly 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: Game one the miracle come back by the Pacers. The 103 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: Pacers knew, hey, we can free up Nie Smith and 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: he can he can be the guy keeps you to 105 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: stay hot. And the Knicks had no answer defensively, right, 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: TIBs is not able to adjust. 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: Okay, but they come back with that. 108 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: And now the knicksk okay going into game two, how 109 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: do we combat this and they came out with it. 110 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: We have to make sure that Halliburton's not a guy 111 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: that takes over like he did. And you heard the 112 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Knicks talk about things they needed to do. What are 113 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the Pacers doing? Game two, Pascal Siakam eleven points to 114 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: start the game. Game of his life. Again, I keep 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: going back. 116 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: He was like. 117 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: Peak KD with the shots he was making in this game, 118 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: mid range jumpers, off the glass, threes, he was doing 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: everything dominant, one on one. The Knicks were not ready 120 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: for them. They were chasing the Pacers that entire game. 121 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Game three, the Knicks find a way right come back 122 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, Pacers blow a big lead, and 123 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I like, like the Knicks played great that Again, that 124 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: game made absolutely no sense. Now you get to game four, 125 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: where okay, the Knicks are going, okay, it's what we 126 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: need to do. And what happened tonight The Pacers kept 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: running screens, They kept running into open shots the entire night. 128 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: The Knicks looked awful defensively, whether it was Brunson chasing 129 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: losing their spot. How many times did you see the 130 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Pacers have open threes? And they have five guys on 131 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: the floor that can take threes and hit them right. 132 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: It's not like they have only a couple. They got 133 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: five guys that can hit them right. We talked to 134 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Rick Buker. This is the this is what the Pacers 135 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: like to do. This, this is what Rikarlo likes to 136 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys interchangeable, can do different things 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: on the court at once. The Knicks spent the entire 138 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: night tonight bamboozled defensively. There were no adjustments to make, 139 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: there was nothing to try to figure things out. There 140 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: was no way to slow Halliburton down. The Pacers did 141 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: whatever they wanted to. They played at their own pace. 142 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: And I mean it if if they made five difficult 143 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: shots night. By that, I mean where it wasn't just 144 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: shots they missed. They were forced into a difficult shot 145 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: by the Knicks defensively, and they made them. I think 146 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot. I don't think they had five difficult 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: shots they were forced into tonight. It was basically the 148 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Knick saying, maybe they'll miss, and y'all, well, kay, well, 149 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: they still had fifty three percent of their shots from 150 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: the floor, right. That's why I was never confident the 151 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Knicks could win this game tonight, because the Pacers just 152 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: kept coming down and doing whatever they wanted to. They're 153 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: one on one matchups were terrific. They got the one 154 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: on one matchups they wanted, they got open shots, It 155 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: didn't matter. The Pacers just did whatever they wanted to tonight. 156 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: And I'm watching Tom Thibodeaux just walk around with his 157 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: with his arms folded. I'm going, where is any sort 158 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: of come batting against this? Where is any sort of plan? 159 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: The Knicks look bamboozled and they look mentally defeated. Where 160 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: they're looking at each other going, you're supposed to pick 161 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: that guy up, You're supposed to pick this up? 162 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Was I supposed to go? 163 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Here? 164 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: What's going on? 165 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Are they communicating like I didn't see Brunson and it 166 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: no be communicating like? 167 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: It was a. 168 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Really difficult effort to watch. But this is what Rick 169 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Carlyle has done. He has been able to every game, go, 170 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: you think we're gonna do this, We're gonna give you 171 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different wrinkle. Maybe it's Pascal 172 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Siakam out of the gate. Maybe it's the screens that 173 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have trouble. Maybe it's now we're gonna get 174 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: back to picking up Brunson and make him dribble all 175 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: ninety four feet and force him into bad, bleeping turnovers 176 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: where he has a couple every single game that just 177 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: turned out to be killers. Like Rick Carlyle is completely 178 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: coaching circles around TIBs. Now. Granted, does TIBs have the 179 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: defensive team that he used to have that you want 180 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to have, No, but still there's been no adjustments. There's 181 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: been no game planning because the Knicks can play physical. 182 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: We saw them out physical the Celtics. There's been none 183 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: of that. There's been no adjustment. It's been Rick carl 184 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: just going around going, ah, whatever you can do, TIBs, 185 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: what two three steps ahead of you? Man? 186 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm like Leo and catch me if you can't, except 187 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: at the very end. But I'm like, love thehead? Are 188 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: you the entire way? 189 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks? 190 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Oh, but you had the opportunity Game three where everybody 191 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: started to fight back on TIB's behalf, saying, look, sham 192 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: it McBride, these guys gave you big minutes and rallied. Okay, 193 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: they came and got one right chokes on you was 194 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: the back of the fish rap there the New York 195 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: Post and everybody got excited for a moment. But to 196 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: your point, you've got a lot of standing around and 197 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: watching when Jalen Brunson goes into turbo mode and when 198 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: he hits that's great. You guys had your knicks had 199 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: an eleven rebound advantage. They won the offensive glass thirteen 200 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: to eight, but seventeen turnover for several of which were 201 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: and I don't know how Burnson only has three. I 202 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: want to check the tapes, but remember several sequences where 203 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: he goes to drive and you get the second man 204 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: coming over to pick his pocket, and nobody's calling out 205 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: that help is coming. 206 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Right man man, it's like man, man on, you're gone, 207 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, like that kind of thing. 208 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: You're setting a screen. 209 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Just a lot of standing around and defensively, No, their 210 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: feet don't move right. How many open looks from the 211 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: corners do you see that extra bit of ball movement? 212 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: And I know the one that's the dagger is the 213 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: obie top and at the top of the key, because 214 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: that's the the biggest injustice. I'll take the dunk, I'll 215 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: take the put back, I'll take the big offensive rebound 216 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: to reset the shot clock. That guy's stepping out and 217 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: hitting a dagger three on you in the final minutes, 218 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: like wow, nothing else can go could possibly go right 219 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: for us here. But Josh Hart was terrible again, right, 220 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: and he talked about it like you rebounded. 221 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: He had a great run at the end of game three. 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: That was it, right, He had a couple of minutes, 223 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: and then today was right back to He had a 224 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: double double. Great, but he had seven turnovers and most 225 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: of them were all right, we're gonna force the ball in, right, 226 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: it's the youth soccer, youth basketball of I'm going to 227 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: dribble into a crowd of people and hope that the 228 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: shot gets through. And in this case for Josh Hart 229 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: was all right, well, two of our guys are down there. Yeah, 230 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: they might have brought two of their defenders, but damn it, 231 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna get to the ball or it's gonna pinball 232 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: around and we're gonna end up with an extra possession. 233 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: And so you're struggling, and you get a game like this, 234 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: this kind of pace, you're destined to lose. 235 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: Right. They did a lot of things right. 236 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: He got to the foul line a lot, took care 237 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: of business there, didn't miss a ton. I think they 238 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 4: missed six for the game. So you have thirty plus 239 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: attempts and Bronson finishes with thirty one, but you had 240 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: a lot of stagnant defensive possessions. Every loose ball seemed 241 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: to find the arms of a waiting Pacers player. And 242 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: then Haliburton set the tone early with that monster first quarter, 243 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: and he could do no wrong right in terms of 244 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: distributing the ball. There's no active hands, there's no muddying 245 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: things up to where you're gaining and regaining an advantage 246 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 4: down in those possessions, they all ended up with shots. 247 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: Pacers win the fat break points twenty two to nine. 248 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 4: At one point is twenty two to two, so I 249 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: guess they closed the gap with a couple of big 250 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: runouts late. But just all of that to say, you 251 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: can't play at that pace against this squad and think 252 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: you're gonna win because those legs are gonna be tired 253 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: for the minutes. You can't steal with your bench, you. 254 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Know, And and the other part of it is this, right, 255 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: So you think I'm gonna say TIBs is gonna get 256 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: fired after the season. It's been really bad. But there's 257 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a bigger culprit or a bigger move than 258 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the Knicks moving on to a new coach, because that 259 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: could be a year away, but I'll tell you he's 260 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: just signed an extension. Yeah, like through twenty eight, twenty 261 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: nine or something. Look, even though Tibbs is someone who 262 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: he's lost his identity as a defensive coach, Like like 263 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: when you bring you it's like when the when the 264 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: when Syracuse had Dino Babers is their head coach because 265 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: he brings in this great offensive system. We run a 266 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: play every eight seconds, We're gonna go fast by the 267 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: end of his run there, they weren't doing it. And 268 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, why is even the head coach if we're 269 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: not doing why? Why? What is specialty is? Why is 270 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: he still the coach? But that's the point, right, if 271 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna build a squad for this guy, shouldn't there 272 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: be another defensive stuff for two in the mixt You know, 273 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: a guy that. 274 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: You can steal fifteen minutes from comes on the bench. 275 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: It's not offensively inept, but able to steal minutes. 276 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is still Tibbs's team, it's still his it. 277 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: But but how if we're not if we don't have 278 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: that defensive identity? More like, what are we doing? But 279 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the what the other bigger change 280 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be is that in the off season, Carl 281 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns plus is going to get dealt as the 282 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Knicks retool the roster to get better defensively, little more offense. 283 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: And look, maybe it's Giannis right, maybe it's Jiannis want 284 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: to play in New York happen, but they need a 285 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: better mix and they need to get better defensively. And 286 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns is fit has been okay, it's not 287 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: quite been to the extent you expected it to be 288 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: like you expect to be. Hey, he and Jalen Brunson 289 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: won two man good luck stopping one without the other, 290 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: and it seemed like that's the way it was gonna 291 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: be for Karl Anthony Towns. 292 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: But as the. 293 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Season went on, he'd have a lot of games where boy, 294 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: he just didn't seem like he really fit in the flow. 295 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: It's been somewhat of an odd configuration. And clearly now 296 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: you see this NIX team again. I haven't seen a 297 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: team in the Eastern Conference Finals with more wrong with 298 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: it than the Knicks. But they're gonna make a move 299 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: and Karl Anthony Towns clearly is a guy that's going 300 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: to have a lot of interest. They'll be able to 301 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: move him for a piece they need, a couple of 302 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: pieces they need. But that's gonna be the big change. 303 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Maybe it's Karl Anthony Towns and Unobi, Maybe it's Karl 304 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns in heart, Maybe it's Karl Anthony Towns and Bridges. 305 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: Something is going to happen that's going to make this 306 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Knicks team a little bit better defensively and a little 307 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: bit more of a pacers type team where you have 308 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: more players on the floor offensively that can all do 309 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: the same things like you could. And that's why Karl 310 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns is the victim of He's a guy that 311 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: could bring the most, that is the most expendable, but 312 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: also his fit is still somewhat odd with the team. 313 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: It's still not quite what you thought it would be. 314 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: So this'll probably be a one and done year for 315 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: him and the Knicks will move on and it will 316 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: be a couple of different players in big positions. Next, 317 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: were you taking a shot at Cat's fitness while you 318 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: were at it? No, it's not running up and down 319 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: the floor like no, No, I think he's fine. I 320 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: don't look at him and go boy, the guy's exhausted. 321 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean you look at some of the circus hoops 322 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: he made, you know, on offense tonight. Then look at 323 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the times he got beat, you know, defensively, like he's 324 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: not i mean, look four points of the first three 325 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: quarters of Game three and then twenty in the fourth quarter. 326 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so is that worth it? Like to 327 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: have a Karl Anthony Town so that can give you 328 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty in the fourth, but you're losing and you need 329 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: every one of them because he's so bad the first 330 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: three quarters, like he's not quite been what they thought 331 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: he was going to be, and knowing they need to 332 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: make a change, he's gonna be the guy that's gonna 333 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: headline a deal for Giannis or somebody else is gonna happen. 334 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: And when he's out of position, he picks up the 335 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: early silly following two foul tonight and he's on the 336 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: bench for the last eight minutes of the first quarter. 337 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how it's gonna Tim's is gonna get 338 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: a reprieve and Karl Anthony Town is gonna be on 339 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: a new team, and the Nick Levannist all apologies, Yeah, 340 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: exit out by a Fresca exit Swollen Dome, Jason Smith 341 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: and Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 342 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: You can stream this show in all of our Fox 343 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the 344 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: new iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the 345 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: app to stream us live. 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The Jason Smith Show with My That's 359 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. 360 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: Eclectic. 361 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: We get back into the Knicks and the Pacers coming 362 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: up in a few minutes, but do we have to Well, 363 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: there's a bad deal. The Knicks died tonight stock come 364 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: on already dead. But we've got a story on Lebron 365 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: James coming up in a few minutes, really fun one. 366 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: But what the one where he's dancing when he's supposed 367 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: to have a ripped up knee. 368 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. 369 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: The story where like I could be an NBA insider. 370 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: But a little bit more on that. The WNBA story 371 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,359 Speaker 1: that we talked about, big story today. The WNBA investigating 372 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: the claims that something racial was shouted at Angel Reese 373 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: during the season opening game between the Sky and the 374 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Fever a few days ago. They spent a whole week investigating. 375 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: They talked to people at the game, they they did 376 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: video and audio review, and they could not find any 377 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: evidence that someone said something. And we talked about it 378 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: last hour. Look, this is a story that you know, 379 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: like I said, WNBA has to make sure that they 380 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: can handle success, and they have not shown me they 381 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: can because they let social media run an investigation or 382 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: start something that looked that was just a bad headline 383 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: for the w over the course of the last week. 384 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: But how many people do you have working that that event, 385 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: including the team, lot of people and not a single person, 386 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 4: nobody anything. 387 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: And this is why This is why the W needs 388 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: to be able to handle success. This story gets out 389 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: and nobody heard anything. This is where the W has 390 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: to say, we'll look into it, don't worry about it. 391 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: But the Sky put out a statement. There's no place, 392 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: of course, there's no place for this in the game. 393 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. If you found them, obviously you kick those 394 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: people out for the rest of their lives. It don't 395 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: get to come to games. But the Sky puts out 396 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: a statement, and the Fever puts out a statement, and 397 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: the WNBA puts out a statement. Now it seems like, oh, 398 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: we have racist fans, right, racist fans are back out, 399 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: and the whole week has been racist fans? What are 400 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: they saying? And now it was nothing where the W 401 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: gotta take And instead this was social media, because there's 402 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: all about social media that thought they heard something being said, 403 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: whether it was made up, whether it was something that 404 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: was misheard, whether it was just somebody saying they felt 405 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: bad because Angel Reese got. 406 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: Fouled and so they didn't like the fact they were losing. 407 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, they couldn't find evidence of this, and 408 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: there's lots of big time things were on along racial lines. 409 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: We need to talk about we need to get into 410 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: but you gotta you gotta make sure that that you're 411 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: focusing your efforts on stuff that's out there, right, And 412 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: this is where the WNBA should have said, let's look 413 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: into it, because there's no reason why let's back. If 414 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: this is bad, we're gonna tell you. We're gonna tell you, 415 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell this this is what we found out right, 416 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: we looked into it after what happened last year. There 417 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: were you know, threats and stuff made that looked like 418 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: some Fever fans were saying on social media against Angel Rees, Hey, 419 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: we gotta look in it, and it's got to look 420 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: into this. 421 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: But this is the story that. 422 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: The W needed to be able to control, and they 423 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: didn't because social media said something and they went off, 424 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: oh now we gotta we gotta go over the top 425 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: of it, and it was a bad week of publicity. 426 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: The other part of this story is that if I'm 427 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: the W or not, if I'm the W, if I'm 428 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: a manager or an agent or a PR person and 429 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: I work for Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Cheryl Reeve, Cheryl Swoops, 430 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Cheryl Ladd because she was my favorite, Charlie actually Cheryl 431 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Tigues on the cover of Sports Jackie Cheryl, former head 432 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: coach Texas A and m Cheryl Burke. 433 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: Dancer Cheryl Hines. I mean there's lots of Cheryl's. 434 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: I say this, Okay to my client, I would say, okay, 435 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I know this is a really big thing, but you guys, 436 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: you guys have to just back off what's happening. You 437 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: can't continue to be petulant, right because eventually it's gonna 438 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: come back on you and you're gonna look bad. Because 439 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: if you can, it's it's almost like the NBA player 440 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: that is a great player, but boy, if he flops 441 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: too much complains about calls, you lose some respect for him, right, 442 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Like you know everybody's loose with Luca whining and complaining 443 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: for as many calls. Yokich is kind of getting to 444 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: that point. You don't want that, right, You don't want that. 445 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: You want you, I would say, I want you as 446 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: my client to be someone who achieves everything they want 447 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: to And when all this petulant stuff is going on, 448 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: this is outside of the race of this is this 449 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: is all of the Hey, here's rivalries, and here's who 450 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: doesn't like who, and here's who doesn't like this, And 451 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm fostering this and fostering this. Stay away from the 452 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: petty stuff and the small stuff, because it's just gonna 453 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: make you look bad. The more the more things that 454 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: go out where it seems like players hate each other 455 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: and and it's a personal issue, and it's a jealousy issue. 456 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: This is good. 457 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna look bad. You're gonna be the one that 458 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: looks bad. People listen to you right away and they go, oh, 459 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's a good point. But if this 460 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: is what keeps coming up eventually fans and the media, 461 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: and they're gonna turn their turn, turn turn away from 462 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: you to go I don't really care what you have 463 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: to say, because I've been hearing the same argument over 464 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: the course of the last couple of years that what 465 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the jealousy and the and the pettiness like, that's what's 466 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: gotta go away. And that's what I would tell my 467 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: client and say, stop doing this because you're you're you're 468 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: not You're not going to help yourself because eventually it's 469 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna turn on you. If you're the one that continues 470 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: to person be the big be a bigger person, play basketball. 471 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: If it's a rivalry on the court. If things happen 472 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: on the court that go for this is what everybody wants. 473 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to talk about this. The w is a 474 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: league that people want to talk about and they want 475 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: to have fun with because it's getting so popular and 476 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: there's so many stars. Yes, Caitlin Clark is the biggest, 477 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: but there's so many other huge stars that people love 478 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: talking about. We love talking about Kelsey Plumb and Asia Wilson. 479 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: And and and it. 480 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether it's Paige Becker's coming into 481 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the league. It doesn't matter if it's a Lee at Boston, 482 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: it's still it's still fun. Let's make sure that that's 483 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: the narrative that we push forth and not just Hey, 484 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: it seems like there's a bunch of players who aren't 485 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: thrilled with the other with with the other players, and 486 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: it's not about an on court rivalry. It seems personal 487 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: because people to say, you know what, I don't have 488 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: time for that anymore. 489 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we could run with it in for 490 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: a while. And it seems to work in the music business. 491 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: It seems to work in entertainment. Did you keep doing 492 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: your music out? I mean did I What did I 493 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: have today? I mean I had Audrey McDonald against Patty Loopon. 494 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: I mean that's been going on at Broadway for years, 495 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: all of those things, right, so you can have beef. 496 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: And that's why I'm a Patty LuPone guy. Oh, y'all 497 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: kick your ass said she's not my friend anymore. You 498 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: know what you did? 499 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: You gotta explain to gen X and who Patty Lapone is. Okay, 500 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: you can't. You can't just throw that out. Is that 501 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: the person who pushed Marcone's face? 502 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: It's what's the mom on lifetoes on with Smitrovich all 503 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: those years ago? 504 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: I mean Broadway legend. 505 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm throwing out a Broadway rivalry that people are just 506 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: throwing down over the point. 507 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: And I do a tongue in cheek because that's the 508 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 4: repertoire we have. Right, We're at the world in with 509 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: a great, big hug. We're not narrow casting. We're broadcasting 510 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: here and somewhere someone's laughing their ass off that I 511 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: got that in even if it's just you and it 512 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: made the show. But the point being, you can run 513 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 4: with it for a while, right, What you what I 514 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: can have if I'm the pr advisor to the Star 515 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: is the I can't have the no comment. You gotta 516 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: have something prepped, right. You know you're gonna be asked 517 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: about player X y Z. They have a big game 518 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: and you're gonna run through. And obviously with more dollars, 519 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 4: it's like anything, right, if there's money to be made, 520 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: more people are paying attention, more people keep coming in, 521 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 4: so they may not have all the backstory. So it's 522 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: not it's the old NBC line, right when they show 523 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: you the reruns in may Hey, if you missed it 524 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 4: in the fall, it's new to you. Yeah, so you 525 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: can run with it to a degree, but clearly, if 526 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 4: it now becomes all other lines of questioning, communication and 527 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: flow gets cut off because you're going back to the 528 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: well on something that happened a year ago, back to 529 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: college days, back to the opening game. 530 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: Because I mean, there's gonna be points to where. 531 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: It's your main And I think if you're in the 532 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: NBA or w NBA at any point, you should expect 533 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: at some point while you're sitting at the dais there 534 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 4: is going to be a question about Angel Reese and 535 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: or Caitlin Clark, even it's got nothing to do with 536 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: your team, the upcoming schedule of the game you just played, 537 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: it's gonna be there because it moves the needle. 538 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: And see what I did the social media. 539 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: I mean it's clips, it's reels, it's Instagram, it's TikTok, 540 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: it's all of that, and it helps further the cause 541 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: of the league. Whatever and pettiness you get, you can 542 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: run with it for a while. How long that gestation 543 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: period is, I don't know. I don't think we're at 544 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: it yet where it's super saturated. To me, it's a 545 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: all right basketball play, move on. But the fun rhetoric 546 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: between the players is all fine and good. What happened 547 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: with this investment negation? We said it when we came 548 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: on air Monday. It's like, you have forty eight hours. 549 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: You didn't find a single person that came running to 550 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 4: a security guard or nobody from the sideline that ran 551 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: to this. That kind of stuff you need to figure 552 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 4: out how to be better about. But the rest of it, 553 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: hey man, pettiness moves the needle in a lot of circles. 554 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: To watch a political show, it works. Exit out bout 555 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: a fresco x at swollen Dome. Time now to find 556 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: out what's trending for men whose favorite show was Petty 557 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: Coat Junction Woo. 558 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 3: What he was growing up? It's Steve a saga. 559 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 5: She was the original Evita, was she? 560 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: Note? That is sure you are correct about? Yes, that's right. 561 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: So you have Patty Lapone's back. You're a Patty. You're 562 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: a Patty. 563 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 5: She was in a Witness. She was Harrison Ford's sister 564 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: and witness. 565 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: That's Ryan, So I guess. So a lot of the 566 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: beef comes down to you. They were playing two shows 567 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: playing next to each other, and the one uh not 568 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: loopone starred. 569 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: What got too loud? 570 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: So she complained about it and filed a grievance two 571 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: Old nine yard, to. 572 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 5: Which McDonald probably said, I'm sorry. I have my five 573 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: Tony Awards in my. 574 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: Ears last Yeah, exactly, Okay. 575 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: NBA Eastern Conference Finals, Indiana up three games to one 576 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 5: after beating New York won thirty to one, twenty one 577 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 5: triple double for Tyrese Haliburton, including fifteen assists, no turnovers. 578 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: West Finals Game five is Wednesday in OKC Thunder leading 579 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 5: three games to one over Minnesota. The NBA Finals start 580 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 5: June fifth. Five WNBA games tonight. Paige Beckers in Connecticut 581 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 5: had twenty one points. Dallas beat Connecticut a battle of 582 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: OH and four teams. New York four and O whip 583 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: Golden State Minnesota's five and OH after downing Seattle, Atlanta 584 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 5: one at LA and Phoenix is now four and one 585 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: after beating winless Chicago ninety four eighty nine Chicago's oho 586 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: and four, but Angel Rees did have thirteen points fifteen rebounds. Tonight, 587 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 5: the Edmonton Oilers are up three games to one in 588 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 5: the NHL's West Final. They were tied one to one 589 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: with Dallas tonight mid second period. Four won the finals, 590 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 5: so Edmonton in the last three games outscore him thirteen 591 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 5: to two. The East Final continues Wednesday. Florida leeds Carolina 592 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 5: three games to one. A couple of huge comebacks in 593 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 5: the late ball games in the major leagues. Pittsburgh was 594 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: down six nothing going to the sixth nine six Pirates 595 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 5: win at Arizona. In fact, the Pirates record when trailing 596 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: after seven innings had been ozho to twenty nine until tonight. 597 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 5: San Diego trailed six nothing in the first inning to Miami, 598 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: but still beat the Marlins eight to six. Seattle nine 599 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: to one winners against Washington, Cal Raley of the MSH 600 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 5: his eighteenth and nineteenth home runs and the Yankees were 601 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 5: up three nothing in the nine three to two the 602 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 5: final of the Angels, Carlos rode On seven and three 603 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: got the win. Houston's Hunter Browns seven and three after 604 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: whipping the A's eleven to one. Houston hit four home runs. 605 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 5: Jose al Tuve went four for four with two long balls. 606 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 5: Texas with two runs bottom of the eighth one two 607 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: nothing over Toronto, but Rangers starter Nathan Valdi left after 608 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 5: two innings due to triceps fatigue. Pete Crow Armstrong with 609 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 5: his forty ninth RBI of the season, and for the Cubs, 610 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: Seya Suzuki with his fiftieth RBI. Cubs eventually with two 611 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: runs bottom of the eleventh, beat Colorado four to three. 612 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: The Rockies record is now nine and forty six and 613 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: they have lost every series they have played this season. 614 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: Oh n eighteen in series. 615 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: You sure that wasn't the Knicks? 616 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Not quite that bad? 617 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: Cincinnati's La de la Cruz with two solo homers in 618 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 5: a seven to win at Kansas City the Royals. Bobby 619 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 5: wit Junior did steal his twentieth base Milwaukee on a 620 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 5: Grand Slam in the tenth by Christian Yelich beat Boston 621 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 5: five to one after Eraalda. Chapman had blown the save 622 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 5: bottom of the ninth, the lost to Liam Hendrix of 623 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: the Red Sox. The Mets have won their fourth. 624 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: In a row. 625 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: Six to four was Tonight's final over the White Sox. 626 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo a two run homer in the first. The 627 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: Mets at home are twenty one and six. Philadelphia with 628 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: another win two nothing over Atlanta Ranger Suarez four and 629 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 5: oh beat Spencer Streider, oh and three. Bryce Harper left 630 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: hit by a pitch on his right elbow. X ray 631 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: were negative, but Philly's won twenty two of twenty eight. 632 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: There's still a game and a half up on the Mets. 633 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 5: In the NL East Road wins for Saint Louis and 634 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 5: Minnesota and for the Dodgers, who won nine to five 635 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: at Cleveland show Hey Otani with his twentieth homery of 636 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 5: the year that leads the majors. 637 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: That good. 638 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 5: That is good Detroit three to one over. 639 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: Twenty home runs, twenty one RBI for this year. 640 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Touch you're gonna say nineteen. He forgot to touch third 641 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: on that one big home. 642 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: Run by the way, for the Guardians, Jose Ramirez, now 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: a twenty game hit streak. 644 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: Big to you, all right? 645 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: That is twenty home runs in thirty five RBIs for show. 646 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: So he's no Rob Deer, No, no, no, no, no, no, 647 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: just wait wait till o Tani finishes with sixty home 648 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: runs and eighty eight RBIs this year. It's going to 649 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: be fantastic. Now, look, look, just just really quick about 650 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Pacers. One more thing for you. 651 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: Got to get to that big lebron story coming up 652 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: in a few minutes. But like one thing I was 653 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: outside of, you know, the failures of kat and and 654 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Tim's being out coached. You know, the two biggest plays 655 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: of this game. Okay, the two biggest when I look 656 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: at this game and go, boy, the Knicks lose and 657 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: the Pacers were able to have a you know, Halliburton 658 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: has the night of his life. Obi Topping three. Obie 659 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: Toppings three was, of course is Obie topp and who 660 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: makes that shot? 661 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: Pychologically damning right there, But no question, the. 662 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: Two biggest plays in this game. I go back the 663 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: end of the first half. The Knicks have a one 664 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: point lead with just over a minute left to go, 665 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: and I turned to Rob Parker, who was in a 666 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: commercial break, and he said, I go, all right, the 667 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: only thing the Knicks have to do here don't turn 668 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: this into a five point halftime deficit. And what happened. 669 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: The Knicks were down five at half time. They went 670 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: from a point up because they missed a couple of 671 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: shots and a bad turnover, and they were down five at. 672 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: Half robing the game. 673 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's watching it with me for a few minutes, absolutely, 674 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: And so I think he bet a lot of money 675 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 1: on that game. I think he had a lot in 676 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: that game. I think he bet turnovers in the final minute. 677 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: So okay, they go to halftime and they come out 678 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: and it's a five point lead, and the first two 679 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: possessions for the Knicks in the second half, the Pacers 680 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: score off the jump to make it a seven point game. 681 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson has an awful turnover that leads to a 682 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Siakam slam dunk, so now it's a nine point lead, 683 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: and then a bad pass, really bad pass by mckel 684 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: bridges eventually for a turnover. Eventually the Pacers get another bucket. 685 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: They're up eleven, and that's it. 686 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: The Knicks. 687 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: We're chasing that nine to eleven point lead the rest 688 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: of the game. So yes, you can say, okay, here's 689 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: a big These are two plays beginning of the second half. 690 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: But this game took it from a five point game 691 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: to a nine plus point game, and the Knicks never 692 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: got that back. 693 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: They got to within. 694 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: Six a couple of times, but they will never able 695 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: to get into a one possession game, or get back 696 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: and forth or take the lead like once the they 697 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: open up with two of the worst turnovers. I mean, 698 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: these are awful turnovers by Brunston and Bridges, awful, and 699 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: the Pacers said, thank you very much, and now we 700 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: have a healthy, near double digit lead, and they maintain 701 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: that the rest of the game. Those are the two 702 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: biggest plays of the game. You come out of the 703 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: gate after giving away the end of the last minute 704 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: of the of the first half, you give away that 705 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: one point lead, and now you're down five six point 706 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: swing and sixty second and now in another sixty seconds 707 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: it's another five or six points. Like that was the 708 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: biggest two. 709 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: Plays of this especially with the amount that you had 710 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: to battle back, right you'd already come back from a 711 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: ten point deficit to get you back to Evan. You'd 712 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: seen they were going to be able to do whatever 713 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: they wanted to do offensively. First quarter was really I mean, 714 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 4: that's a get your popcorn out, whether you eat a 715 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: Tom Cruise style or not, that you just sit and 716 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: enjoy it because you're seeing good, crisp offense on both sides. 717 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: But you know you can't sustain that pace, so at 718 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: some point you're gonna need to make a stop. You're 719 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: not gonna be able to throw the ball around. And 720 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: they were careless right seventeen turnovers on the night. We 721 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: talk about heart, we talk about a couple of the 722 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: big bruns and errors that you start getting into the 723 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: one tens and beyond, you're destined to lose because you're 724 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 4: not gonna have enough down the stretch for that defensive 725 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: rotation to combat those open looks. And the ov Topping 726 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: was the cherry on the side. 727 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: Of course topping former Nick Obi top. 728 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: Not a dunk, the pacer, a rebound anything. 729 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: The Pacers, what their wish list is coming true this 730 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: entire series against the Pacers against the Knicks. What do 731 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: you got, Frostburg, what's popping? I don't know, Frostburg, What's 732 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: popping Obi topping, Then are you gonna say? Pop's Halliburton? 733 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: He's popping coming up to VP. It looks like Lebron 734 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: James is coming back to the Lakers next year, but 735 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: for how long? 736 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: The answer is going to surprise you. 737 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: That's next, Jason to Mike Fox. 738 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 739 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 740 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. Goes on top, it's topping for. 741 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: Thanks Dan Van. 742 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: Yep, the Jason Smith Show is my best friend, Mike Harmon, 743 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: Sorry pal, Yes, the next funeral we had it tonight, uh. 744 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: Earlier today. 745 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: Big bombshell, but something that falls under the category of 746 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: well stuff that we could have told you, you know, 747 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: a month ago. But now this is breaking news. According 748 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: to Shampsherania, Lebron James will opt in to his fifty 749 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: one million dollar player option and stay with the Lakers 750 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: next season. 751 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: Wait again, I know, I know, I got. 752 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: This is something that's really completely out of the blue. 753 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 4: I don't I'm taking aback, I no idea. 754 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I can't believe fifty one million. 755 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, when he could get that anyplace? Else, 756 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: except he can't. Of course he's going to opt in. 757 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: Nobody he's getting that is going work for a broadcast. No, 758 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: he's not even getting that. Look, of course he's going 759 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: to opt in. He's making fifty one million next year. 760 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: And he's not quote Lebron James anymore where everybody will 761 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: fall over themselves to go get him. He's got value 762 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: to other teams. But clearly teams are saying, Wow, the 763 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Lakers have really just not advanced with him, and now 764 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: they're building around Luca And that's a big sign saying 765 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: we're not building around Lebron anymore, even though Lebron clearly 766 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: has at least two three more really good years left. 767 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: He's not Lebron anymore. No one's gonna go crazy to 768 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: get him, to the tune of, hey, we'll give you 769 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: more than fifty one million dollars for next year, and well, 770 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where he's gonna go. But but fifty 771 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 1: one million for next year, and he's not gonna take less, 772 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: because that's not Lebron. He's not one of those I'll 773 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: take less money to build a competitive team. No, he's 774 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: got to make fifty one million dollars for next year. 775 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Of course he's coming back to the Lakers. And for 776 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers, it's a smart choice because they only had 777 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a couple of months to work together him and Luca, 778 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: and Luca's you know, now spending time getting into shape allegedly, 779 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: and they want to see, let's see what happens next year. 780 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: But the fun part of this report was Shamsterrani is saying, Hey, 781 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: of course there's gonna be conversations with Lebron and the Lakers. 782 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: He wants to make sure the Lakers stay competitive. So 783 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: now you know where Sean's is getting his information from, 784 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: because that's not the conversation at all, Right, that's Lebret's 785 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: Lebron wanting to put that, Hey, I want to make 786 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: sure the Lakers are saying we're staying compet They just 787 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: pulled a big trade for Luca, who's gonna be the 788 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: guy for the next eight plus years on the team. 789 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: They're building around him. And we've told you they're pushing 790 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Lebron out. Lebron is now at arms length with the team. 791 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: He's not running the team like he used to with 792 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: Rich Paul and Anthony Davis. 793 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: They're moving on. 794 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what the real conversation is gonna 795 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: be Lebron's gonna say, we want Lebron, don't worry about that. 796 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna worry about this year. And if we get 797 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: to the Western Conference Finals and we're showing growth, yeah 798 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about a contract. But if we don't get there, 799 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: it's another first round exit, or we don't feel like 800 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: we're we're getting forward, then good luck, thank you for everything, 801 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take that fifty one million dollars a 802 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: year and spend it elsewhere around Luca to bring in 803 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: players that are gonna help make him better because he's 804 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: our guy now, right, you want, they'll go get the center. 805 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure in the offseason that everybody says, oh, if 806 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers just had a center now, they'd still be playing, 807 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: right exactly. But Luca does need a rim runner. He 808 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: needs that, and I understand that. But if they don't 809 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: win next year, Lebron's gone. Lebron's not coming back. They're 810 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: not coming back to Lakers are the fifty one million 811 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: dollars to have another early round playoff exit. 812 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 3: So it's either. 813 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals or Lebron is finishing with the Calves. 814 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: Like I've said, from the beginning. He will finish his career. 815 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he's playing with Bryce at some point. But the 816 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: Cavaliers a team that, hey, look what they need. They 817 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: need somebody to take the pressure off the Look at 818 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: all the wins they had this year and they fall short, 819 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: losing to the Pacers in the last round of the playoffs. 820 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: Another year, that's where Lebron will finish. Right, I'm gonna 821 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: go home one more time and all will be forgiven 822 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: because he could be the missing piece and someone who's 823 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: gonna take the attention away from the other from the 824 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: young guys who needs some time to grow. 825 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: Into their roles. 826 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: He will finish with the Calves and it will be 827 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: the only other place he goes he's done what he's 828 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: wanted to do in Los Angeles. 829 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 3: He finishes with Cleveland. Yeah, obviously, I make the media joke. 830 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: You know what his uh company lost a year year ago, right, 831 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: was like a thirty to thirty five million Yeah, no thing. 832 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 3: So no, he's why he's fifty one million this. 833 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, exactly, So he's plus fifteen million overall? 834 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah as well. 835 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you can write a bunch of that stuff off, 836 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: but when it comes down to it, for the fifty 837 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: one million and the opportunity look for the Lakers has 838 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 4: been a good business move, right, You've made more than that. 839 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 4: But you get into he's been very aggressive in his 840 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 4: comments in the media and that distance is there, right, 841 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: talking about Luca and his future. That's not my business, right, 842 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: I'm not recruiting. You should be noted Shan's agency is 843 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 4: part of Clutch Sports, the people he's with, so it 844 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: is the direct line. 845 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: Again, so you know you hear oh, but Lebron wants 846 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: to make sure the Lakers talk about you did that 847 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: just sounds stupid. Of course they've traded for Luca, they 848 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: come on, No, Lebron wants them to fail miserably and 849 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: go flailing into the good night. 850 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: Come on now, I mean that that's just silliness. That 851 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 4: that is the the extra one line. It's like, you 852 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 4: know what, if I'm editing this, I'm taking that line 853 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: out because it just makes us sound dumb, yeah, or. 854 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: It makes it sound like you know where you're getting 855 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: your information from, like I know, okay, I'm getting this 856 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: from Lebron because that's not the conversation at all, Right, Lebron, Really, 857 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: Lebron is not front He went from running the team 858 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: to now they're kind of on the end. They're pushing away, 859 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: they're moving away from the lebron era. And you can 860 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: hear him even the way he talks about it's like, 861 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: well they can do this. They're doing like he seems 862 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: like he's on the aspice. 863 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: But do you just look at the distance. And I'm 864 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 4: sure within those those offices Jeanie Buss, Jaymore, Polenka and everybody. 865 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: Else, Lakers owner Jaymore, we we have control of this right. 866 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 4: This guy's not running this squad. We brought in Luca 867 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: and now we figure out the next iteration of things. 868 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Telling you he's gonna one more year and unless it's 869 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals, it's I'm just a kid from 870 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: Adams and I'm gonna finish where I started there, I left, 871 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: I came back, and now this is where I'm gonna 872 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: fish that exilum to sick how it's gonna go. Now, 873 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have kd or Giannis or or or Sabonis 874 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: in a year or it'll be fine. It'll be fine. 875 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 3: Can we draft Patrick Ewing? 876 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 877 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm okay with that. Another cold envelope that'll work. 878 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: You might have a run in. 879 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: Him exit hout about a Fresco exit swollen dome for Mike. 880 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm Jason, coming up next to my buddy Ben Mallor 881 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: this is fuck