WEBVTT - #637 Packers Unscripted: Division clincher

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, he is West Hodkowitz.

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<v Speaker 1>Were coming to you hear from our studios at lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field West. The Packers coming off of another down to

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<v Speaker 1>the wire victory, this one thirty one to thirty over

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday afternoon. We'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with what the game came down to, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion. John Harbaugh for the Ravens making a

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<v Speaker 1>call I think everybody expected him to make, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you score that touchdown with forty two seconds left on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. He was going to go for the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't just going to kick and play for the

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<v Speaker 1>tie and hope for the overtime. Packers managed to stop

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<v Speaker 1>the two point conversion, recover the onside kick, and they

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<v Speaker 1>escape Baltimore with a victory. There's one scenario in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind where I would have been in favor of them

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<v Speaker 1>going for two, and that would have been if Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur would have used the time out when there's only

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<v Speaker 1>ten defenders on the field and allowed them to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically no time outs left in forty two

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left on the clock. The Packers didn't go that

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<v Speaker 1>direction for them to score, still have one time out,

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<v Speaker 1>forty two seconds on the clock and Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand it. I don't think I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I said to some of our insider inbox readers,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I really don't care. This was the decision

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<v Speaker 1>that John Harbaugh wanted to make. It was very aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why it's called aggression because it ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out for them. You'll go into this probably

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit with um what imagine it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of your you know what you might

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<v Speaker 1>have missed column this week. But you know you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where you have Tyler Huntley there as your

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback. Young man has played really well. Former undrafted

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. This guy's got a lot of talent. You're

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<v Speaker 1>putting him in a winning time situation. Though, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if that was Lamar Jackson, maybe I understand it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. But it's just what he had done

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago against Pittsburgh with Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>that quarterback, he went for two in very similar circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>So a young guy in that situation as well as

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<v Speaker 1>he played. Of course he's going from Mark Andrews. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done this entire game. So for Hollywood Brown

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<v Speaker 1>to be open in the back of the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>as inexcusables, that seems like when you look at it

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<v Speaker 1>on film, you understand what he's thinking with the basically

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<v Speaker 1>a half second, second and a half to make that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 1>held onto this victory. They get to number eleven, they

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<v Speaker 1>clinched their third consecutive NFC North title. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens, this is just something they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. It's the way the the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>dice sort of rolled for them, and you know for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers that it turned out favorably. Yeah. Well, on

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<v Speaker 1>the two point play, we saw Darnell Savage from his

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<v Speaker 1>safety spot. As soon as Tyler Huntly started a roll

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<v Speaker 1>to the right, Mark Andrews was lined up, was not

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<v Speaker 1>lined up as the tight end was lined up split

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<v Speaker 1>out to the right with Eric Stokes on him. Darnell

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<v Speaker 1>says just sold out to uh to get over there

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<v Speaker 1>to Andrews, and after Andrews had had obviously a big

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<v Speaker 1>day against Savage against other guys, Savage was able to

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<v Speaker 1>get the slight deflection on that ball as he cut

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<v Speaker 1>across the field. The ball then bounced off of Eric

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<v Speaker 1>stokes shoulder and the past was incomplete. As you said, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown was was open in the back of the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone because of the area that Savage had vacated. But

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<v Speaker 1>Huntley never looked at him. He was going to Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>all the way there. And for a guy who had

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge day, the Packers were finally able to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to stop him. When it mattered the aggression of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the Baltimore Ravens, it was. It was evident

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<v Speaker 1>right from the opening series of the game, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the they go fourteen plays, or they had gone

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen plays. The fourteenth play is fourth and goal from

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<v Speaker 1>the three yard line, and instead of just making sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get some points after that long drive that takes

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<v Speaker 1>half of the first quarter, um John Harbor decides to

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<v Speaker 1>go for the touchdown. Devandre Campbell makes a great play

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<v Speaker 1>chasing Huntley on the scramble, gets him for the sack,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers keep the Ravens off the board on

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<v Speaker 1>that possession. So the way the game started the way

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<v Speaker 1>the game ended, John Harball was was going for broke

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. Um with the team that he had

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<v Speaker 1>against the Aaron Rodgers lead Packers. And yeah, he'll I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he'll be second guest about it for for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, for for several decisions. But um, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers made for all the struggles they did have

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<v Speaker 1>at different moments. Defensively, the Packers made a few key

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<v Speaker 1>plays in this ball. Yeah, and Hardball was in that

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<v Speaker 1>seat for the last thirteen years for a reason. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he's won a Super Bowl there, He's had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of success. But you know, I I understood going for

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<v Speaker 1>it early in the game. The only reason for that

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<v Speaker 1>is because field position. We're starting to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of that can be if you not only can

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<v Speaker 1>just go for it and then you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it, you're still pinning them back at their

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<v Speaker 1>own five. In this case, I think it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being the six after this s act and Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>punted the ball back punt really doesn't work out. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens are able to get some points after that. The

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<v Speaker 1>part of it that I think is getting more confusing

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<v Speaker 1>for me is what you saw with the first and

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<v Speaker 1>five situation, which would have been in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, where they get the full start and then

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<v Speaker 1>they end up going for it because it becomes fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and six or whatever on their own twenty eight or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, and then green Bay gets the ball there.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches are getting pretty risky with this. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>with Sean McVeigh a number of weeks ago as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot to be said for putting

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<v Speaker 1>your foot down on the gas pedal and showing that

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<v Speaker 1>you have faith in your offense. But you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to see the big picture with this thing too. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have a game where it's just okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got six field goals and out of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially being able to get maybe you know, three touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>out of that, you end up with eighteen points. I

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that aspect of it, but it is this

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<v Speaker 1>fine line that teams have to walk in for Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay's perspective, four for five in the red zone, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to punch the ball in that really is what

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<v Speaker 1>came down to being the biggest difference in this game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to go back one more thing and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll move on. But see, it's interesting you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have different perspectives on this because to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>the decision for me that was harder to understand was

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<v Speaker 1>the one at the beginning of the game, the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and goal from the three yard line. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>having this discussion with my son Robbie, whom you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's uh, he's home for the holidays from graduate school,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've been talking a lot of football, and he

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<v Speaker 1>he fed me a great line which I'm gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show because you mentioned, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and goal from the three, and you're talking field position.

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<v Speaker 1>Points are permanent, field position is temporary. How does that

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<v Speaker 1>decision by hardball look if on the very first third

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<v Speaker 1>down of Aaron Rodgers with Davante Adams wide open, if

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<v Speaker 1>he hits that pass, then what does that decision look like? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>The field position is a completely temporary thing and early

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. To me, and you know, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just conservative and thought in in this type of this

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<v Speaker 1>type of decision making, I just I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>points on the board early in the game. Now, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth and one situation, fourth and one I'll almost

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<v Speaker 1>never fall to coach for wanting to go for it

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<v Speaker 1>because your whole playbook is open. You can run, you

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<v Speaker 1>can throw, you can do whatever you want with your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything more than fourth and one, to me, is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot harder to convert than than than than people realize.

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<v Speaker 1>So um but I but I totally expected. As we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching that game with the Ravens driving for what

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<v Speaker 1>was looking like the tying touchdown, and we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it as was happening, we knew, like the Ravens score,

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<v Speaker 1>Harball was going for two, He's going for the lead

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<v Speaker 1>here and uh and unfortunately the Packers were able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop that, that that biggest play that mattered and escape

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<v Speaker 1>with a win. Yeah, fourteen play drive. That's the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of this. As you get down seventy yards, you

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<v Speaker 1>do want to get some points out of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's the decision every coach is going to have to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like with having a young quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>there as well as Hunley played, there are opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>them to take points and they didn't do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably the aspect of it. Because you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about fourth and one in the Playboo being opened Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's on the field former NFL and yeah, they I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree if Lamar Jackson's the quarterback, to me that

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions are potentially different to it's. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>different mindset in terms of in terms of what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to work with. Their on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. UM, this Packers offense now west despite Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers basically not practicing over a month, this Packers offense

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<v Speaker 1>has put up thirty plus points in four straight games. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty remarkable what's going on. Rogers has thrust himself

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<v Speaker 1>right into the thick of the m v P conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>The Baltimore Ravens did everything in their power and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what my what you might have missed video clips

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<v Speaker 1>are focused on. They did everything in their power to

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<v Speaker 1>take Davante Adams out of this game with with bracket coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>double teams, UM, even a triple team in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>on one play. If you want to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>website and check out that clip that's in my piece

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<v Speaker 1>the UM. But the Packers responded. They ran the ball

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<v Speaker 1>not with big numbers, but with efficient numbers against the

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<v Speaker 1>top ranked run defense in the league. And Marquez Velde

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<v Speaker 1>Scantling had um. In my opinion, it was Marquis's best

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<v Speaker 1>game of the season. I know, statistically, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had more yards in Minnesota with seventy plus yard touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>But the plays that the plays that MVS made in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. He was a big time performer in a

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<v Speaker 1>big time game when the Packers needed him. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>really good to see because it was the route tree, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote about this after the game. It's the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he's showing you his growth as a receiver, not

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<v Speaker 1>just being a guy that runs four three whatever and

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<v Speaker 1>can get over the top of a defense and really

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<v Speaker 1>make teams pay. He was making, you know, these slant

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<v Speaker 1>routes that the leven yard touchdown pass was a thing

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<v Speaker 1>of beauty. He's extending for the end zone. Great, great

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<v Speaker 1>play by him. There was a huge reason why Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers was so excited about it. Yes it was number

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<v Speaker 1>four forty two when you could just see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to get that confidence back an MVS that he

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that was a pivotal moment and honestly it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't produce points. But that twenty four yard catch that

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<v Speaker 1>he had on kind of that post that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more beautiful pass and catches you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. Everybody has showed the skycam

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<v Speaker 1>view of Rogers throw on that. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>he throws that. Yeah, the one, the one right before half,

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<v Speaker 1>right before halftime. There's there's a triangle of Baltimore defensive

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<v Speaker 1>backs there and there is just a sliver of a

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<v Speaker 1>green helmet in white uniform and Rogers puts it through

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<v Speaker 1>three defenders where only his receiver can catch it, and

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<v Speaker 1>mark Quisvelda Scanty makes a nice play on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a thing of beauty. Yeah, the I took

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<v Speaker 1>a closer look at that one on film and what

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed because I was like you, I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>does Rogers even try to throw that ball? Right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on that play is actually that was another

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<v Speaker 1>play where Davante Adams is getting double teamed from the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy who was lined up across from mvs UM

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<v Speaker 1>on that play actually drops off to double atoms and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a linebacker who's dropping into coverage to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>MVS going down the seam. In my mind, Roger sees

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<v Speaker 1>MVS against a linebacker. I'm given my guy a shot

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<v Speaker 1>to make a play that was just it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a split second thing, like boom linebacker on

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three, that's where the ball is going. But the

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<v Speaker 1>throw was absolutely perfect because the coverage by the linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>who was pretty darn good, Rogers snuck that one in there. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers weren't able to get any points out of

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<v Speaker 1>that drive, but it's certainly an example of where Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is the level that he is playing at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it seems like every game we see early

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<v Speaker 1>on first quarter, first drive, maybe second drive, we see

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<v Speaker 1>a throw that a thrower two that are off here

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<v Speaker 1>there mentioned the one to Adams on the very first

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<v Speaker 1>third down of the game. Right, of course he'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to have that throwback. He's not practicing. It seems to

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<v Speaker 1>just take a couple of throws something to get him

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<v Speaker 1>into a rhythm. But once he gets into that rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers scored four touchdowns in a span of five drives.

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<v Speaker 1>The only one they didn't was the two minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first half in that span.

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<v Speaker 1>When you can when you can put up suddenly four

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns through that middle stretch of a game like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be in position to win a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>football games. And and Aaron Rodgers is just he He's

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<v Speaker 1>at a in a different world right now. Rogers is

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<v Speaker 1>so good at this, Mike, And I've noticed this more

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<v Speaker 1>this year because there hasn't been the practices. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>a great championship boxer fighter where he uses that first

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<v Speaker 1>round and he really finds his range against the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, he would have loved to have had that

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<v Speaker 1>Adams you know pass, certainly he talked about that that

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<v Speaker 1>floater he just missed Allen Lazard on late in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But once he starts to diagnose what the defense is

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<v Speaker 1>giving you, the way he's able to lock in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think about that Tyler Davis passed in the scene that

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Laflour was talking about. You know, he sped up

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<v Speaker 1>that route and sped up his throw and how he

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<v Speaker 1>unleashed that thing based on how the safeties were basically

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<v Speaker 1>playing Davis to be able to sneak that one in

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<v Speaker 1>there for twenty two yards. There's no one like him

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, and there hasn't been anyone like him

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard and how he's able to manipulate what

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<v Speaker 1>he's seeing Defensively, I thought that was the one issue

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<v Speaker 1>that the Ravens had. I really like what they did

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<v Speaker 1>defensively in this game. I understand why they defended Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams the way they defended him. I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>have come off that a little bit though in the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter into the third quarter, or at least tried

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<v Speaker 1>to mix it up, because once Rogers was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>dialed into the fact that Okay, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>scheme Adams up here, he was able to start getting

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<v Speaker 1>going with foul, the Scantling and some of these other receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't just that Aaron Rodgers is putting out other

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<v Speaker 1>worldly numbers right now. It's the fact that the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks he's done it by passing to like eight

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<v Speaker 1>different receivers. The Packers offense is finding its rhythm again

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<v Speaker 1>and quickly. Just to close on this, the running game,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna wow you in terms of the statistics.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the best rushing performances Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>has had this season. Because they're going up against the

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<v Speaker 1>top rank run defense in the National Football League and

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<v Speaker 1>they ran north and south against that thing, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter. I felt like that's what really

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<v Speaker 1>allowed them to establish their rhythm. That what that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was able to do out there. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had posted a story Monday on our website if fans

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<v Speaker 1>want to check that out. I took a closer look

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the rushing and look not not including

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers rushing yards, which was you know, a kneel down,

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<v Speaker 1>scramble or broken play. You know, you take that out

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones, A J. Dillon, the one jet sweep to

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Lizard, twenty one designed handoff runs. Those twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>runs produced eighty five rushing yards. Well, that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens have been allowing, was eighty five rushing yards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they're their number one in the league against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. But you take a closer look at that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers got those eighty five yards on twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one carries without an explosive run. They didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>twenty like a twenty or thirty yard run. That excuse

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<v Speaker 1>the average. The longest of those rushes was eleven yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and based on the Packers system of measuring the efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>of the run. Matt Lafleurd explained to us earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. On first down, if you get four yards

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<v Speaker 1>or more, that's considered an efficient run. On second down

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<v Speaker 1>if you get at least half of the yards that

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<v Speaker 1>are needed for the first down. So if it's second

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<v Speaker 1>and six, if you get at least three, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>considered an efficient run. And then on third down, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of obviously converting for the run to be

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<v Speaker 1>considered efficient. Those twenty one designed hand us I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, the Packers got an efficient run fourteen out

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty one times, and they were actually at fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>out of nineteen until the very last two when they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to to uh to chew up some clock

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<v Speaker 1>later in the game. So um to have that level

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<v Speaker 1>of efficiency even though there weren't big numbers running the

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<v Speaker 1>ball against the top ranked run defense, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>said something about where this Packers run game is considering

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<v Speaker 1>all the issues on the offensive line that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about all season long, I think it's a good sign

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<v Speaker 1>going into the playoffs. Can I make one last comment too,

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<v Speaker 1>on the the structure of this offense right now where

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<v Speaker 1>it's at, because this is something that really stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to me. By the time the game ended, Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>just been besieged by injuries this year on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, but specifically offensively. When you look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the knicks that the offensive line has taken, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you've lost Robert Tonyan, Randall Cop has his

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<v Speaker 1>best quarter of the season, then he goes out with

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<v Speaker 1>the growing injury and ends up or the core injury

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<v Speaker 1>and ends up on I R. What really stands out

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<v Speaker 1>to me the most is this team kind of like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>how would huh? I say this, like a butterfly sort

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<v Speaker 1>of shedding its cocoon a little bit. Every single time

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<v Speaker 1>they've had an injury, it's hurt them, but it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really all come at the same time. They lost Billy Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>here comes Dennis Kelly, they lost you know, Josh Myers. Well,

0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>there was Lucas Patrick. They lose Randall Cop. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Lazard's back from the shoulder injury. It's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me that while they have had injuries and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty consistent, it hasn't been at one exact moment,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that's allowed this offense to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of evolve a little bit. So, yeah, it ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being MVS in this game. It was Lazard last week.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen these different offensive linemen step up. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to actually develop some chemistry with each other amidst

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<v Speaker 1>the chaos. Yeah. And and to me, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that down the stretch here, with the versatility

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<v Speaker 1>and mallability of this offense, I think it's really gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up helping them. That's another line. I'm gonna steal

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry amidst the chaos. I like that. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to here before we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture in the NFC. One is Matt Lafleur.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought had some very interesting words in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>his analysis of the defensive struggles at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. On Sunday with the Packers on four Sunately,

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<v Speaker 1>after the defense got the fourth down stop in Baltimore territory,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense was not able to get the touchdown that

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.040
<v Speaker 1>would have made it a three score game. Field goal

0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.720
<v Speaker 1>kept at a fourteen point game, so just two scores,

0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Ravens were able to get those two scores

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<v Speaker 1>on their final two possessions. Matt Lafleur was he was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty frustrated, Um, you know, for a for a victory

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<v Speaker 1>Monday press conference. He was a little grumpy, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that's and that's okay. I when I think when he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the film and he saw he commented on

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<v Speaker 1>what he felt like the defense not being always ready

0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.640
<v Speaker 1>at the snap, guys not guys not getting into Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it was the call not getting in. Times sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>was guys just not showing the urgency playing with playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the urgency and aggressiveness that he was hoping for

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<v Speaker 1>in some of those situations, particularly third down, particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down conversion on the past to Mark Andrews. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth down stop there in that situation would have

0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>essentially sealed the ball game. UM, Packers are for for

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<v Speaker 1>as as much as this defense They made three key

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<v Speaker 1>plays in this game, the fourth and goal stop early on,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth down stop in Baltimore territory in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the two point conversion stop. Joe Berry's got

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Berry's got some work to do here with his guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because on balance, this was not a performance that they

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<v Speaker 1>would be happy with. No, it was a tough one,

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<v Speaker 1>especially that second half. You know, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of keep an eye on two is they

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<v Speaker 1>played more personnel packages in this game than they probably

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<v Speaker 1>have all season. They deployed all of them. They had bass,

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<v Speaker 1>penny nickel, and they played dime quite a bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Kevin King took like thirteen snaps of dime. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Packers typically haven't really played that much. They've stayed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in their nickel packages. Yeah, and King kind of

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<v Speaker 1>replacing Henry Black as the diet as the six defensive back,

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<v Speaker 1>going with an extra corner as opposed to an extra safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throw that out. You know. The one thing I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what they're gonna have to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on, because they're gonna end up you could see

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Kyler Murray again here. You could end up

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Taysom Hill. Certainly we know what happened with with

0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Heinekey when the Packers played Washington. These scrambling quarterbacks

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Man green Bay did a really good job against them

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<v Speaker 1>during the first half of the season, the last two

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>games against obviously now Hunley and then before that with

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields, those guys being able to get outside the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and creating plays. Yeah, as you said, the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>they seemed to after the Heineke game against Washington. The

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Packers really seemed to buckle down against Russell Wilson, against

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray, against Patrick Mahomes to a certain extent in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. But then now that now that containing the

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<v Speaker 1>running quarterback has has gotten away from them. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really about being disciplined and staying within yourself because

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is if you go speed to power and

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<v Speaker 1>you try to, you know, get these tackles off the edges, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're opening up the entire canvas for the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to step up and make a play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Hunley did and that was obviously the big

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<v Speaker 1>offensive adjustment for Baltimore in the second half. You know, overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually thought they did a pretty decent job in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of limiting the explosive plays. When they hit them,

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<v Speaker 1>they hit them. But for the most part, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Hollywood, Brown had ten catches for forty

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<v Speaker 1>three yards, and the explosive players where Mark Andrews, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first one very early in the game

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<v Speaker 1>of forty plus yard or otherwise. It was especially on

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<v Speaker 1>those last two drives. It was essentially dink and dunk

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and then Huntley with scrambling. Huntley had seventy three rushing

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<v Speaker 1>yards in the game, but forty five of the seventy

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>three were on the last two drives. You'd only run

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty eight yards until the fourth quarters. So they

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>were doing the job and then they weren't. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>just had to figure out the adjustment there. So now

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the next upcoming games here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what they end up seeing, if ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being Nick Mullins or if they are able to get

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<v Speaker 1>um you know, Baker Mayfield back on Saturday. Obviously Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what the game is kind of there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then certainly you know Jared Goff. So I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be really tested in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>feet here. These next few weeks. Right, It's something you

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep in the back of your mind. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bays defense. I know there's a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the inbox already asking about, Hey, is this a concern

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<v Speaker 1>that they've given up this In many points, I'm not concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because they didn't have Kenny Clark in this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They still had to find themselves to offensively with the

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<v Speaker 1>way they had to change some stuff in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the bigger thing is is just understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of gone against them here in some of

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<v Speaker 1>these situational type games the last few weeks, and making

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<v Speaker 1>those corrections here as you get ready for the postseason. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt the way that game was going

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<v Speaker 1>if they had made Tyler Huntley you have to pass

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<v Speaker 1>the ball from the pocket on those last two drives,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he can drive the Ravens twice down

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<v Speaker 1>the field for touchdowns. I think the fact that not

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<v Speaker 1>only could he scramble to run, but get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket and and have the clearer view of things

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to make throws on the run, make

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<v Speaker 1>throws near the boundary, that was the kind of that

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<v Speaker 1>was the kind of thing that made things a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier on the Ravens, and I think that's what Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Laflu was upset about. You can't rush him like every

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<v Speaker 1>other quarterback because the problem is, even if you beat

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<v Speaker 1>your man, uh you know, we saw it like with

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<v Speaker 1>Tipa's spin move. I mean, even if you get past

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<v Speaker 1>the Honley so elusive, much like Jackson would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys, even if you get up in their face,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you're sacking them. So that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing Green Bay is gonna have to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly have to figure out, you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>ten man on the field deals. You know, they got

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<v Speaker 1>they got some stuff to clean up here. But but certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>as we always say, and as Adrian Amos has talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of times the past few weeks, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to learn from these things than a win than

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having a loss. Yeah, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing I want to ask you too, Okay, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers at four forty two, right, he's tied Brett Farve.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Rogers, tying far for the most touchdown passes

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<v Speaker 1>in Packers history. No small feat by any stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination. Who's getting four forty three. It's coming on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday against the Browns. David Bocking tackle eligible play with

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<v Speaker 1>box tr playing his first game of the season, playing

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<v Speaker 1>really well left tackle. Give the big draft a big

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<v Speaker 1>tight end package. I'll tell you what I thought for

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds on that game on Saturday. On Sunday, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, if Mercedes Lewis can break another tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it sure looked like he was. Yeah, um, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. Let's uh, let's just I'm to play

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<v Speaker 1>the odds here. I'll go with Davante Adams as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I want to say Louis, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe DeVante is up for a big play. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is kind of funny because I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>this when we were watching the game. We were talking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is it gonna be Adams, is gonna be Lewis? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna be Lazard? Mvs? What happens? If Free is

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<v Speaker 1>Juwann Winfrey, that'd be his first NFL touchdown? Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>then like who gets the who gets the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm Juwann Winfrey and Aaron Rodgers is going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my first touchdown past forever as the record breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd be okay with that think so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just I just throw it out there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it could happen. I I don't put it

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<v Speaker 1>past I don't put it past anybody getting number four

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<v Speaker 1>or forty three because Rodgers is gonna, Rogers is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw to whoever's open. I really respect Rogers for giving

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante number two hundred. Um, I really respect James Jones

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.719
<v Speaker 1>for giving some lucky fan in roight at the Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I do I think that ball has to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, I mean I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that kind of tongue in cheek. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what if it's what if it's juwann winfree? But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think, I mean if I if I'm if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>win free and my touch, my first NFL touchdown, is

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<v Speaker 1>the record breaker, and it's on Aaron Rodgers mantle for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of time. That's that's all right, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Quickly before we go, Um, the Packers are eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>three and lo and behold the Arizona Cardinals and the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost to fall to ten and four.

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<v Speaker 1>They are in a tie now with this for the

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<v Speaker 1>second best record in the NFC with the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly the Cowboys are the team that is the most

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous to the Packers in terms of potentially stealing that

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<v Speaker 1>number one seed because the Cowboys would have the tie

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<v Speaker 1>break around the Packers if they would manage to even

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>up their record with Green Bay. Because Dallas has only

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<v Speaker 1>lost one game to an NFC opponent that was actually

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>in Week one against against Tampa Bay. So um three

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>teams that ten and for the Rams going for ten

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and four tonight in their rescheduled game against Seattle. The

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Packers still very much in control of things, but the

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<v Speaker 1>one team that they don't have a tie, don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the tiebreaker on, would be the Dallas Cowboys. And give

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple of weeks. Uh not because I'm saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas is gonna trip and fall here. But Dallas

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>has some tough matchups. They've got two division games against

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and Philadelphia sandwiched around a game with Arizona and

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Arizona team that will be looking to right the ship

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<v Speaker 1>heading into the post. And Arizona is gonna be playing

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<v Speaker 1>at home. I mean, they're gonna want to that's a

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>huge game for them. That's about as big as any

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of these matchups are going to get down the stretch

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of buys, in terms of seeding. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a critical one, honestly, Mike. The biggest thing

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers kind of falling on their face. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked about it. Stunning final score, not so not so

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<v Speaker 1>much the result. I mean the st the Saint speed

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<v Speaker 1>him earlier in the season. I'm surprised the same it's

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>won the game, but I'm more surprised that the final

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>score was nine to zero. It wasn't pretty. And then

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they lose Chris Godwin here. Antonio Brown is gonna be

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>coming back for them. But I'll tell you what, Mike, Uh,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>this schedule lined up really favorably for Tampa Bay. They're

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>they're getting We had talked about it. I didn't expect.

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect the Buccaneers to lose again Carolina two

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of the last three weeks with the Jets Sandwich in between.

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<v Speaker 1>That's favorable. So for Green Bay to actually be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get out one game ahead of them right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really key. We'll see how all this

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>shuffles out, but ultimately I have to imagine if you're

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>down in the locker room with Matt the floor of

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the messages, we control this. We run the North. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's run the conference. And if you can get this

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<v Speaker 1>thing back, you can get that number one seed again. Mike.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying it time and time again. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have an unsaved and unseasonably warm day in the

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship game again. You're not gonna be playing in

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>front of nine thousand fans again. If you can win

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>out and get to home games at lambeau Field in

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<v Speaker 1>the month of January. I really do like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that this line's up for green Back. Yeah. Absolutely, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all out there. It's all out there in front of

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. It's there for the taking, there in control.

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<v Speaker 1>So so stay in control and take care of business.

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is almost here, folks, only a few more days

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<v Speaker 1>big you know, Cliffs big lines. I really wish it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been called the Cliff Crystal Manifesto. I really do,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. But I'm thankful to Cliff. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>signed my book yesterday. Um yeah, just an incredible, incredible project.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thumbing through a getting a chance to read

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of it. I'll probably get to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into it after the season ends. It. They did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job with the pictures, the layout, the info boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing production. Check that question about it. With that,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>team on Packers dot com for WESTI Mike, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. Yeah,