1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, he is West Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Were coming to you hear from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Field West. The Packers coming off of another down to 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: the wire victory, this one thirty one to thirty over 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore on Sunday afternoon. We'll start 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: with what the game came down to, which was a 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: two point conversion. John Harbaugh for the Ravens making a 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: call I think everybody expected him to make, which is 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: you score that touchdown with forty two seconds left on 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the clock. He was going to go for the lead. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: He wasn't just going to kick and play for the 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: tie and hope for the overtime. Packers managed to stop 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the two point conversion, recover the onside kick, and they 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: escape Baltimore with a victory. There's one scenario in my 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: mind where I would have been in favor of them 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: going for two, and that would have been if Matt 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Lafleur would have used the time out when there's only 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: ten defenders on the field and allowed them to have, 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, basically no time outs left in forty two 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: seconds left on the clock. The Packers didn't go that 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: direction for them to score, still have one time out, 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: forty two seconds on the clock and Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. I don't think I'm going to. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: But as I said to some of our insider inbox readers, 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I guess I really don't care. This was the decision 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: that John Harbaugh wanted to make. It was very aggressive, 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: and this is why it's called aggression because it ultimately 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: didn't work out for them. You'll go into this probably 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: in a little bit with um what imagine it'll be 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: a big part of your you know what you might 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: have missed column this week. But you know you're in 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: a position where you have Tyler Huntley there as your 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Young man has played really well. Former undrafted 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: free agent. This guy's got a lot of talent. You're 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: putting him in a winning time situation. Though, I guess 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: if that was Lamar Jackson, maybe I understand it a 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: little bit more. But it's just what he had done 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago against Pittsburgh with Lamar Jackson 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: that quarterback, he went for two in very similar circumstances. 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: So a young guy in that situation as well as 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: he played. Of course he's going from Mark Andrews. That's 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: what he's done this entire game. So for Hollywood Brown 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: to be open in the back of the end zone 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: as inexcusables, that seems like when you look at it 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: on film, you understand what he's thinking with the basically 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: a half second, second and a half to make that decision. 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the Green Bay Packers 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: held onto this victory. They get to number eleven, they 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: clinched their third consecutive NFC North title. But for the 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, this is just something they're gonna have to 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: deal with. It's the way the the you know, the 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: dice sort of rolled for them, and you know for 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the Packers that it turned out favorably. Yeah. Well, on 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: the two point play, we saw Darnell Savage from his 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: safety spot. As soon as Tyler Huntly started a roll 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: to the right, Mark Andrews was lined up, was not 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: lined up as the tight end was lined up split 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: out to the right with Eric Stokes on him. Darnell 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: says just sold out to uh to get over there 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: to Andrews, and after Andrews had had obviously a big 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: day against Savage against other guys, Savage was able to 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: get the slight deflection on that ball as he cut 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: across the field. The ball then bounced off of Eric 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: stokes shoulder and the past was incomplete. As you said, Hollywood, 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Brown was was open in the back of the end 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: zone because of the area that Savage had vacated. But 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: Huntley never looked at him. He was going to Andrews 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: all the way there. And for a guy who had 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: such a huge day, the Packers were finally able to 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: uh to stop him. When it mattered the aggression of 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: the of the Baltimore Ravens, it was. It was evident 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: right from the opening series of the game, right, I 74 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: mean the they go fourteen plays, or they had gone 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: thirteen plays. The fourteenth play is fourth and goal from 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: the three yard line, and instead of just making sure 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you get some points after that long drive that takes 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: half of the first quarter, um John Harbor decides to 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: go for the touchdown. Devandre Campbell makes a great play 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: chasing Huntley on the scramble, gets him for the sack, 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: and the Packers keep the Ravens off the board on 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: that possession. So the way the game started the way 83 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: the game ended, John Harball was was going for broke 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: no matter what. Um with the team that he had 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: against the Aaron Rodgers lead Packers. And yeah, he'll I mean, 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, he'll be second guest about it for for 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: a long time, for for several decisions. But um, but 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the Packers made for all the struggles they did have 89 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: at different moments. Defensively, the Packers made a few key 90 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: plays in this ball. Yeah, and Hardball was in that 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: seat for the last thirteen years for a reason. Obviously 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: he's won a Super Bowl there, He's had a lot 93 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of success. But you know, I I understood going for 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: it early in the game. The only reason for that 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: is because field position. We're starting to see what the 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: benefit of that can be if you not only can 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: just go for it and then you know, if you 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: don't get it, you're still pinning them back at their 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: own five. In this case, I think it ended up 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: being the six after this s act and Green Bay 101 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: punted the ball back punt really doesn't work out. The 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Ravens are able to get some points after that. The 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: part of it that I think is getting more confusing 104 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: for me is what you saw with the first and 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: five situation, which would have been in the fourth quarter, 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: I believe, where they get the full start and then 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: they end up going for it because it becomes fourth 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: and six or whatever on their own twenty eight or 109 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: twenty nine, and then green Bay gets the ball there. 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: Coaches are getting pretty risky with this. We saw it 111 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh a number of weeks ago as well. 112 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be said for putting 113 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: your foot down on the gas pedal and showing that 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: you have faith in your offense. But you also have 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: to see the big picture with this thing too. You 116 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: don't want to have a game where it's just okay, 117 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: you've got six field goals and out of you know, 118 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: potentially being able to get maybe you know, three touchdowns 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: out of that, you end up with eighteen points. I 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: I understand that aspect of it, but it is this 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: fine line that teams have to walk in for Green 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Bay's perspective, four for five in the red zone, being 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: able to punch the ball in that really is what 124 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: came down to being the biggest difference in this game. Yeah, 125 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I just want to go back one more thing and 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: then we'll move on. But see, it's interesting you and 127 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: I have different perspectives on this because to me, the 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: the decision for me that was harder to understand was 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 1: the one at the beginning of the game, the fourth 130 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and goal from the three yard line. And I was 131 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: having this discussion with my son Robbie, whom you know, 132 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's home for the holidays from graduate school, 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: so we've been talking a lot of football, and he 134 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: he fed me a great line which I'm gonna use 135 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: here on the show because you mentioned, you know that 136 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the three, and you're talking field position. 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Points are permanent, field position is temporary. How does that 138 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: decision by hardball look if on the very first third 139 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: down of Aaron Rodgers with Davante Adams wide open, if 140 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: he hits that pass, then what does that decision look like? Right? 141 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: The field position is a completely temporary thing and early 142 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: in the game. To me, and you know, maybe I'm 143 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: just conservative and thought in in this type of this 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: type of decision making, I just I want to get 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: points on the board early in the game. Now, to me, 146 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: a fourth and one situation, fourth and one I'll almost 147 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: never fall to coach for wanting to go for it 148 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: because your whole playbook is open. You can run, you 149 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: can throw, you can do whatever you want with your quarterback. 150 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Anything more than fourth and one, to me, is a 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: lot harder to convert than than than than people realize. 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: So um but I but I totally expected. As we 153 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: were watching that game with the Ravens driving for what 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: was looking like the tying touchdown, and we were talking 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: about it as was happening, we knew, like the Ravens score, 156 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Harball was going for two, He's going for the lead 157 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: here and uh and unfortunately the Packers were able to 158 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: stop that, that that biggest play that mattered and escape 159 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: with a win. Yeah, fourteen play drive. That's the other 160 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: side of this. As you get down seventy yards, you 161 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: do want to get some points out of that. So 162 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: it's the decision every coach is going to have to make. 163 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like with having a young quarterback in 164 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: there as well as Hunley played, there are opportunities for 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: them to take points and they didn't do it. I 166 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: think that's probably the aspect of it. Because you talk 167 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: about fourth and one in the Playboo being opened Lamar 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Jackson's on the field former NFL and yeah, they I 169 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: totally agree if Lamar Jackson's the quarterback, to me that 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the decisions are potentially different to it's. It's just a 171 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: different mindset in terms of in terms of what you 172 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: have to work with. Their on the offensive side of 173 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the ball. UM, this Packers offense now west despite Aaron 174 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers basically not practicing over a month, this Packers offense 175 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: has put up thirty plus points in four straight games. UM, 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable what's going on. Rogers has thrust himself 177 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: right into the thick of the m v P conversation. 178 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens did everything in their power and this 179 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: is what my what you might have missed video clips 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: are focused on. They did everything in their power to 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: take Davante Adams out of this game with with bracket coverage, 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: double teams, UM, even a triple team in a sense 183 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: on one play. If you want to go to the 184 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: website and check out that clip that's in my piece 185 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: the UM. But the Packers responded. They ran the ball 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: not with big numbers, but with efficient numbers against the 187 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: top ranked run defense in the league. And Marquez Velde 188 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Scantling had um. In my opinion, it was Marquis's best 189 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: game of the season. I know, statistically, I think he 190 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: had more yards in Minnesota with seventy plus yard touchdown. 191 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: But the plays that the plays that MVS made in 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: this game. He was a big time performer in a 193 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: big time game when the Packers needed him. And that's 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: really good to see because it was the route tree, right. 195 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I wrote about this after the game. It's the fact 196 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: that he's showing you his growth as a receiver, not 197 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: just being a guy that runs four three whatever and 198 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: can get over the top of a defense and really 199 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: make teams pay. He was making, you know, these slant 200 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: routes that the leven yard touchdown pass was a thing 201 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: of beauty. He's extending for the end zone. Great, great 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: play by him. There was a huge reason why Aaron 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Rodgers was so excited about it. Yes it was number 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: four forty two when you could just see, you know, 205 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: wanting to get that confidence back an MVS that he 206 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: felt like that was a pivotal moment and honestly it 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: didn't produce points. But that twenty four yard catch that 208 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: he had on kind of that post that is one 209 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: of the more beautiful pass and catches you're gonna see 210 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Everybody has showed the skycam 211 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: view of Rogers throw on that. I don't know how 212 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: he throws that. Yeah, the one, the one right before half, 213 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: right before halftime. There's there's a triangle of Baltimore defensive 214 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: backs there and there is just a sliver of a 215 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: green helmet in white uniform and Rogers puts it through 216 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: three defenders where only his receiver can catch it, and 217 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: mark Quisvelda Scanty makes a nice play on the ball. 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: It was a thing of beauty. Yeah, the I took 219 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: a closer look at that one on film and what 220 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: I noticed because I was like you, I'm like, how 221 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: does Rogers even try to throw that ball? Right? Well, 222 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: what happened on that play is actually that was another 223 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: play where Davante Adams is getting double teamed from the slot. 224 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: The guy who was lined up across from mvs UM 225 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: on that play actually drops off to double atoms and 226 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: it's a linebacker who's dropping into coverage to pick up 227 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: MVS going down the seam. In my mind, Roger sees 228 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: MVS against a linebacker. I'm given my guy a shot 229 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: to make a play that was just it was. It 230 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: was like a split second thing, like boom linebacker on 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: eighty three, that's where the ball is going. But the 232 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: throw was absolutely perfect because the coverage by the linebacker, 233 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: who was pretty darn good, Rogers snuck that one in there. Unfortunately, 234 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: the Packers weren't able to get any points out of 235 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: that drive, but it's certainly an example of where Aaron 236 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers is the level that he is playing at right now. 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: I know it seems like every game we see early 238 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: on first quarter, first drive, maybe second drive, we see 239 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: a throw that a thrower two that are off here 240 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: there mentioned the one to Adams on the very first 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: third down of the game. Right, of course he'd like 242 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: to have that throwback. He's not practicing. It seems to 243 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: just take a couple of throws something to get him 244 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: into a rhythm. But once he gets into that rhythm. 245 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: The Packers scored four touchdowns in a span of five drives. 246 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: The only one they didn't was the two minute drive 247 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half in that span. 248 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: When you can when you can put up suddenly four 249 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: touchdowns through that middle stretch of a game like that, 250 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in position to win a lot of 251 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: football games. And and Aaron Rodgers is just he He's 252 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: at a in a different world right now. Rogers is 253 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: so good at this, Mike, And I've noticed this more 254 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: this year because there hasn't been the practices. He's like 255 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: a great championship boxer fighter where he uses that first 256 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: round and he really finds his range against the defense. 257 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: And yes, he would have loved to have had that 258 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Adams you know pass, certainly he talked about that that 259 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: floater he just missed Allen Lazard on late in the game. 260 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: But once he starts to diagnose what the defense is 261 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: giving you, the way he's able to lock in. I 262 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: think about that Tyler Davis passed in the scene that 263 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Matt Laflour was talking about. You know, he sped up 264 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: that route and sped up his throw and how he 265 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: unleashed that thing based on how the safeties were basically 266 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: playing Davis to be able to sneak that one in 267 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: there for twenty two yards. There's no one like him 268 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and there hasn't been anyone like him 269 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: in that regard and how he's able to manipulate what 270 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: he's seeing Defensively, I thought that was the one issue 271 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: that the Ravens had. I really like what they did 272 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: defensively in this game. I understand why they defended Davante 273 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Adams the way they defended him. I think I would 274 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: have come off that a little bit though in the 275 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: second quarter into the third quarter, or at least tried 276 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: to mix it up, because once Rogers was pretty much 277 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: dialed into the fact that Okay, we're gonna have to 278 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: scheme Adams up here, he was able to start getting 279 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: going with foul, the Scantling and some of these other receivers. 280 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: It isn't just that Aaron Rodgers is putting out other 281 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: worldly numbers right now. It's the fact that the last 282 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: two weeks he's done it by passing to like eight 283 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: different receivers. The Packers offense is finding its rhythm again 284 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and quickly. Just to close on this, the running game, 285 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,359 Speaker 1: it's not gonna wow you in terms of the statistics. 286 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: That was one of the best rushing performances Green Bay 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: has had this season. Because they're going up against the 288 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: top rank run defense in the National Football League and 289 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: they ran north and south against that thing, and especially 290 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. I felt like that's what really 291 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: allowed them to establish their rhythm. That what that Aaron 292 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: Jones was able to do out there. Yeah, and I 293 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: had posted a story Monday on our website if fans 294 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: want to check that out. I took a closer look 295 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: at the at the rushing and look not not including 296 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Rogers rushing yards, which was you know, a kneel down, 297 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: scramble or broken play. You know, you take that out 298 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, A J. Dillon, the one jet sweep to 299 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Alan Lizard, twenty one designed handoff runs. Those twenty one 300 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: runs produced eighty five rushing yards. Well, that's that's what 301 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens have been allowing, was eighty five rushing yards. 302 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: That's why they're their number one in the league against 303 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the run. But you take a closer look at that, 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: and the Packers got those eighty five yards on twenty 305 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: one carries without an explosive run. They didn't have any 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty like a twenty or thirty yard run. That excuse 307 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: the average. The longest of those rushes was eleven yards, 308 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: and based on the Packers system of measuring the efficiency 309 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: of the run. Matt Lafleurd explained to us earlier in 310 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: the season. On first down, if you get four yards 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: or more, that's considered an efficient run. On second down 312 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: if you get at least half of the yards that 313 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: are needed for the first down. So if it's second 314 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: and six, if you get at least three, that's that's 315 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: considered an efficient run. And then on third down, it's 316 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: a matter of obviously converting for the run to be 317 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: considered efficient. Those twenty one designed hand us I was 318 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: talking about, the Packers got an efficient run fourteen out 319 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: of twenty one times, and they were actually at fourteen 320 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: out of nineteen until the very last two when they 321 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: were trying to to uh to chew up some clock 322 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: later in the game. So um to have that level 323 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: of efficiency even though there weren't big numbers running the 324 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: ball against the top ranked run defense, I thought that 325 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: said something about where this Packers run game is considering 326 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: all the issues on the offensive line that we've talked 327 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: about all season long, I think it's a good sign 328 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. Can I make one last comment too, 329 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: on the the structure of this offense right now where 330 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: it's at, because this is something that really stood out 331 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: to me. By the time the game ended, Packers have 332 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: just been besieged by injuries this year on both sides 333 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: of the ball, but specifically offensively. When you look at 334 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: all the knicks that the offensive line has taken, the 335 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: fact that you've lost Robert Tonyan, Randall Cop has his 336 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: best quarter of the season, then he goes out with 337 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: the growing injury and ends up or the core injury 338 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: and ends up on I R. What really stands out 339 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: to me the most is this team kind of like, ah, 340 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: how would huh? I say this, like a butterfly sort 341 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: of shedding its cocoon a little bit. Every single time 342 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: they've had an injury, it's hurt them, but it hasn't 343 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: really all come at the same time. They lost Billy Turner, 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: here comes Dennis Kelly, they lost you know, Josh Myers. Well, 345 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: there was Lucas Patrick. They lose Randall Cop. Well, now 346 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard's back from the shoulder injury. It's very interesting 347 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: to me that while they have had injuries and it's 348 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: been pretty consistent, it hasn't been at one exact moment, 349 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's allowed this offense to kind 350 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: of evolve a little bit. So, yeah, it ends up 351 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: being MVS in this game. It was Lazard last week. 352 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: You've seen these different offensive linemen step up. They've been 353 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: able to actually develop some chemistry with each other amidst 354 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: the chaos. Yeah. And and to me, I think that's 355 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: one thing that down the stretch here, with the versatility 356 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: and mallability of this offense, I think it's really gonna 357 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: end up helping them. That's another line. I'm gonna steal 358 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: chemistry amidst the chaos. I like that. That's that's a 359 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: good one. You got it. One. A little bit of 360 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: sponsored business here. 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One is Matt Lafleur. 369 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: I thought had some very interesting words in terms of 370 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: his analysis of the defensive struggles at the end of 371 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: the game. On Sunday with the Packers on four Sunately, 372 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: after the defense got the fourth down stop in Baltimore territory, 373 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: the offense was not able to get the touchdown that 374 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: would have made it a three score game. Field goal 375 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: kept at a fourteen point game, so just two scores, 376 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: and the Ravens were able to get those two scores 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: on their final two possessions. Matt Lafleur was he was 378 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: pretty frustrated, Um, you know, for a for a victory 379 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: Monday press conference. He was a little grumpy, and that 380 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: that's and that's okay. I when I think when he 381 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: looked at the film and he saw he commented on 382 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: what he felt like the defense not being always ready 383 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: at the snap, guys not guys not getting into Sometimes 384 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: it was the call not getting in. Times sometimes it 385 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: was guys just not showing the urgency playing with playing 386 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: with the urgency and aggressiveness that he was hoping for 387 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: in some of those situations, particularly third down, particularly the 388 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: fourth down conversion on the past to Mark Andrews. You know, 389 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: a fourth down stop there in that situation would have 390 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: essentially sealed the ball game. UM, Packers are for for 391 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: as as much as this defense They made three key 392 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: plays in this game, the fourth and goal stop early on, 393 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: the fourth down stop in Baltimore territory in the fourth quarter, 394 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: and then the two point conversion stop. Joe Berry's got 395 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Joe Berry's got some work to do here with his guys, 396 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: because on balance, this was not a performance that they 397 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: would be happy with. No, it was a tough one, 398 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: especially that second half. You know, one of the things 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: that kind of keep an eye on two is they 400 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: played more personnel packages in this game than they probably 401 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: have all season. They deployed all of them. They had bass, 402 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: penny nickel, and they played dime quite a bit. I 403 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: think Kevin King took like thirteen snaps of dime. That's 404 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Packers typically haven't really played that much. They've stayed a 405 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: lot in their nickel packages. Yeah, and King kind of 406 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: replacing Henry Black as the diet as the six defensive back, 407 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: going with an extra corner as opposed to an extra safety. 408 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: Just throw that out. You know. The one thing I thought, 409 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: and this is what they're gonna have to keep an 410 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: eye on, because they're gonna end up you could see 411 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray again here. You could end up 412 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: seeing Taysom Hill. Certainly we know what happened with with 413 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Heinekey when the Packers played Washington. These scrambling quarterbacks 414 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Man green Bay did a really good job against them 415 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: during the first half of the season, the last two 416 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: games against obviously now Hunley and then before that with 417 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, those guys being able to get outside the 418 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: pocket and creating plays. Yeah, as you said, the Packers, 419 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: they seemed to after the Heineke game against Washington. The 420 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: Packers really seemed to buckle down against Russell Wilson, against 421 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, against Patrick Mahomes to a certain extent in 422 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City. But then now that now that containing the 423 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: running quarterback has has gotten away from them. Yeah, and 424 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: it's really about being disciplined and staying within yourself because 425 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the problem is if you go speed to power and 426 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: you try to, you know, get these tackles off the edges, well, 427 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: now you're opening up the entire canvas for the quarterback 428 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: to be able to step up and make a play. 429 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: That's what Hunley did and that was obviously the big 430 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: offensive adjustment for Baltimore in the second half. You know, overall, 431 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: I actually thought they did a pretty decent job in 432 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: terms of limiting the explosive plays. When they hit them, 433 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: they hit them. But for the most part, you know, 434 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: you look at Hollywood, Brown had ten catches for forty 435 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: three yards, and the explosive players where Mark Andrews, and 436 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: it was the first one very early in the game 437 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: of forty plus yard or otherwise. It was especially on 438 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: those last two drives. It was essentially dink and dunk 439 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: and then Huntley with scrambling. Huntley had seventy three rushing 440 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: yards in the game, but forty five of the seventy 441 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: three were on the last two drives. You'd only run 442 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards until the fourth quarters. So they 443 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: were doing the job and then they weren't. Yeah, they 444 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: just had to figure out the adjustment there. So now 445 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: you look at the next upcoming games here, you know, 446 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: depending on what they end up seeing, if ends up 447 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: being Nick Mullins or if they are able to get 448 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: um you know, Baker Mayfield back on Saturday. Obviously Kirk Cousins. 449 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: We know what the game is kind of there, and 450 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: then certainly you know Jared Goff. So I mean, they're 451 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: not going to be really tested in terms of the 452 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: feet here. These next few weeks. Right, It's something you 453 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: have to keep in the back of your mind. Green 454 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Bays defense. I know there's a lot of people in 455 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: the inbox already asking about, Hey, is this a concern 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: that they've given up this In many points, I'm not concerned, 457 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: mostly because they didn't have Kenny Clark in this thing. 458 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: They still had to find themselves to offensively with the 459 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: way they had to change some stuff in the secondary. 460 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is is just understanding what 461 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: this kind of gone against them here in some of 462 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: these situational type games the last few weeks, and making 463 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: those corrections here as you get ready for the postseason. Yeah. Absolutely, 464 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: I felt I felt the way that game was going 465 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: if they had made Tyler Huntley you have to pass 466 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the ball from the pocket on those last two drives, 467 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he can drive the Ravens twice down 468 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: the field for touchdowns. I think the fact that not 469 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: only could he scramble to run, but get out of 470 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the pocket and and have the clearer view of things 471 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: and be able to make throws on the run, make 472 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: throws near the boundary, that was the kind of that 473 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: was the kind of thing that made things a lot 474 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: easier on the Ravens, and I think that's what Matt 475 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Laflu was upset about. You can't rush him like every 476 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: other quarterback because the problem is, even if you beat 477 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: your man, uh you know, we saw it like with 478 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Tipa's spin move. I mean, even if you get past 479 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: the Honley so elusive, much like Jackson would have been. 480 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: These guys, even if you get up in their face, 481 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're sacking them. So that's the one 482 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: thing Green Bay is gonna have to keep in mind 483 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: and certainly have to figure out, you know that the 484 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: ten man on the field deals. You know, they got 485 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: they got some stuff to clean up here. But but certainly, 486 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: as we always say, and as Adrian Amos has talked 487 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: about a couple of times the past few weeks, it's 488 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: easier to learn from these things than a win than 489 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, having a loss. Yeah, no question about it. 490 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Another thing I want to ask you too, Okay, Aaron 491 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: Rodgers at four forty two, right, he's tied Brett Farve. 492 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Rogers, tying far for the most touchdown passes 493 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: in Packers history. No small feat by any stretch of 494 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: the imagination. Who's getting four forty three. It's coming on 495 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: Saturday against the Browns. David Bocking tackle eligible play with 496 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: box tr playing his first game of the season, playing 497 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: really well left tackle. Give the big draft a big 498 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: tight end package. I'll tell you what I thought for 499 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: two seconds on that game on Saturday. On Sunday, I 500 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: was like, you know, if Mercedes Lewis can break another tackle? 501 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: Sure it sure looked like he was. Yeah, um, uh, 502 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: you know what. Let's uh, let's just I'm to play 503 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: the odds here. I'll go with Davante Adams as much 504 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: as I want to say Louis, I just feel like 505 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: maybe DeVante is up for a big play. Yeah, this 506 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: is this is kind of funny because I asked you 507 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: this when we were watching the game. We were talking, Okay, 508 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: is it gonna be Adams, is gonna be Lewis? Is 509 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: it gonna be Lazard? Mvs? What happens? If Free is 510 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Juwann Winfrey, that'd be his first NFL touchdown? Right, So 511 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: then like who gets the who gets the I mean, 512 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: if I'm Juwann Winfrey and Aaron Rodgers is going to 513 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: keep my first touchdown past forever as the record breaker, 514 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I think I'd be okay with that think so, you know, 515 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: but it's just I just throw it out there because 516 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it could happen. I I don't put it 517 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: past I don't put it past anybody getting number four 518 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: or forty three because Rodgers is gonna, Rogers is gonna 519 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: throw to whoever's open. I really respect Rogers for giving 520 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: DeVante number two hundred. Um, I really respect James Jones 521 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: for giving some lucky fan in roight at the Georgia. 522 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I would I do I think that ball has to 523 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: go to Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, I mean I'm saying 524 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying that kind of tongue in cheek. You know, 525 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: what if it's what if it's juwann winfree? But I 526 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: do think, I mean if I if I'm if I'm 527 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: win free and my touch, my first NFL touchdown, is 528 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: the record breaker, and it's on Aaron Rodgers mantle for 529 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: the rest of time. That's that's all right, that's all right. 530 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Quickly before we go, Um, the Packers are eleven and 531 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: three and lo and behold the Arizona Cardinals and the 532 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost to fall to ten and four. 533 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: They are in a tie now with this for the 534 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: second best record in the NFC with the Dallas Cowboys. 535 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: Suddenly the Cowboys are the team that is the most 536 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: dangerous to the Packers in terms of potentially stealing that 537 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: number one seed because the Cowboys would have the tie 538 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: break around the Packers if they would manage to even 539 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: up their record with Green Bay. Because Dallas has only 540 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: lost one game to an NFC opponent that was actually 541 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: in Week one against against Tampa Bay. So um three 542 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: teams that ten and for the Rams going for ten 543 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: and four tonight in their rescheduled game against Seattle. The 544 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Packers still very much in control of things, but the 545 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: one team that they don't have a tie, don't have 546 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker on, would be the Dallas Cowboys. And give 547 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks. Uh not because I'm saying, oh, 548 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: the Dallas is gonna trip and fall here. But Dallas 549 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: has some tough matchups. They've got two division games against 550 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: Washington and Philadelphia sandwiched around a game with Arizona and 551 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Arizona team that will be looking to right the ship 552 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: heading into the post. And Arizona is gonna be playing 553 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: at home. I mean, they're gonna want to that's a 554 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: huge game for them. That's about as big as any 555 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: of these matchups are going to get down the stretch 556 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: in terms of buys, in terms of seeding. It's it's 557 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a critical one, honestly, Mike. The biggest thing 558 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers kind of falling on their face. Uh. 559 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: Talked about it. Stunning final score, not so not so 560 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: much the result. I mean the st the Saint speed 561 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: him earlier in the season. I'm surprised the same it's 562 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: won the game, but I'm more surprised that the final 563 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: score was nine to zero. It wasn't pretty. And then 564 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: they lose Chris Godwin here. Antonio Brown is gonna be 565 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: coming back for them. But I'll tell you what, Mike, Uh, 566 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: this schedule lined up really favorably for Tampa Bay. They're 567 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: they're getting We had talked about it. I didn't expect. 568 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: I didn't expect the Buccaneers to lose again Carolina two 569 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: of the last three weeks with the Jets Sandwich in between. 570 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: That's favorable. So for Green Bay to actually be able 571 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: to get out one game ahead of them right now, 572 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I think it's really key. We'll see how all this 573 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: shuffles out, but ultimately I have to imagine if you're 574 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: down in the locker room with Matt the floor of 575 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: the messages, we control this. We run the North. Now, 576 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: let's run the conference. And if you can get this 577 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: thing back, you can get that number one seed again. Mike. 578 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: I keep saying it time and time again. You're not 579 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: gonna have an unsaved and unseasonably warm day in the 580 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game again. You're not gonna be playing in 581 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: front of nine thousand fans again. If you can win 582 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: out and get to home games at lambeau Field in 583 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: the month of January. I really do like the way 584 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: that this line's up for green Back. Yeah. Absolutely, it's 585 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: all out there. It's all out there in front of 586 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: the Packers. It's there for the taking, there in control. 587 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: So so stay in control and take care of business. 588 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: Christmas is almost here, folks, only a few more days 589 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to shop for holiday gifts. But a great idea for 590 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: you would be Team History and Cliff Crystal's book, The 591 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: Greatest Story in Sports. It's now available at the Packers 592 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Pro Shop. It's a four volume hardcover book set that 593 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: tells the true complete story of the Packers first Century, 594 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: from humble beginnings to heartbreaks and triumphs. Buy your copy 595 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: online or in store today. The greatest story in sports 596 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: is a girl is a great headline. It's one of 597 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: big you know, Cliffs big lines. I really wish it 598 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: would have been called the Cliff Crystal Manifesto. I really do, 599 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I really do. But I'm thankful to Cliff. He actually 600 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: signed my book yesterday. Um yeah, just an incredible, incredible project. 601 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: I was thumbing through a getting a chance to read 602 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit of it. I'll probably get to 603 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: dive into it after the season ends. It. They did 604 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: a great job with the pictures, the layout, the info boxes. 605 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: It's an amazing production. Check that question about it. With that, 606 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 607 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 608 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com for WESTI Mike, Thanks for 609 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. Yeah,