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Speaker 2: People started asking me, what kind of amplifier do you use?

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Speaker 2: What kind of you talk?

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Speaker 1: Is that? The applifier do you talk? Is me? I'm

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Speaker 1: the cell.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have an act accumulation of a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that I think in field.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our Top five Taking a Walk podcast countdown,

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Speaker 3: the top five most downloaded episodes for Taking a Walk

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. I'm Buzznight's your host, and it's

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Speaker 3: my pleasure of this holiday season to share with you

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Speaker 3: the gift of this select group of special musicians that

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Speaker 3: joined us this year and joining us to get the

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Speaker 3: big reveal for the countdown from the Taking a Walk

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Speaker 3: Music History desk is Harry Jacobs, Hello Harry, happy.

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Speaker 1: To be here. Buzz is part of this. I'm excited,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: So number five, Oh my god, this was such a

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Speaker 3: thrill talking to this Hall of famer kind of came

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Speaker 3: out of left field. It had been something that was

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Speaker 3: being bandied around that I might get to talk to him,

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Speaker 3: and then suddenly on a Friday afternoon, there I was

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Speaker 3: looking at Carlos Santana on a zoom, the one and

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Speaker 3: only Carlos Santana.

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Speaker 1: Number five.

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Speaker 4: Amazing it's a huge get when I look at all

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Speaker 4: the episodes that you've done, hundreds of episodes, and I

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Speaker 4: look at the names Santana. To me, if I were

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Speaker 4: in charge, I don't know if Santana would be five.

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Speaker 1: Santana might be might be like one or two.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, as a guy who's a huge

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Speaker 4: guitar playing kind of guy, I pay attention to all

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Speaker 4: your guitar playing guests more than anything. He to me,

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Speaker 4: is a huge guest and a huge get for you.

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Speaker 4: And I couldn't agree more that he's certainly in the

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Speaker 4: top five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really forthcoming. I told him that the

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Speaker 3: first time that I actually saw him play and the

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Speaker 3: band play was at a free concert in Central Park with.

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Speaker 1: The Jefferson Airplane.

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Speaker 3: I tried to get him to sort of give a

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Speaker 3: about first coming to New York City and how he

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Speaker 3: But oh, I absolutely dug talking with him, and.

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Speaker 4: To me, what's interesting about him is there was always

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Speaker 4: just a band around him. All he was was the

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Speaker 4: was always quiet. He never really did a lot of talking,

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Speaker 4: was never in the forefront. But when you think Santana,

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Speaker 4: it just that sound that they created and different variations

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Speaker 4: over the band. I've just I've always loved Santana and

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Speaker 4: that rhythmic sound, and I love that rock radio embraced

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Speaker 4: that kind of Mexicana. You know, I don't even know

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Speaker 4: what the right phrase would be, but that that Latin

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Speaker 4: kind of sound that they created.

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Speaker 3: And I love how he's always reimagining things as well

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Speaker 3: to this very moment, he's just always kind of reinventing,

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Speaker 3: reimagining things. So here it is number five for twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four in terms of the most downloads for the

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Speaker 3: Taking a Walk podcast. Carlos Santana on Taking a Walk. Carlos,

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Speaker 3: it's an honor to have you on the Taken a

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Speaker 1: Think it was a joe to be a witch you, So.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing You're never ending in your work. Congratulations on

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Speaker 3: let the Guitar Play. The collaboration with run DMC. How

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Speaker 3: did that collaboration come about?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like the same answer for sin at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, I found out because I was bored. Even

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Speaker 2: scene for each individual to have a glorious existence.

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Speaker 1: My path was.

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Speaker 2: Said with my mom and dad, and even before the

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Speaker 2: I learned from Ramming, CLYG. Davis, just show up in

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Speaker 1: Get so proud of you.

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Speaker 3: Excited about the Oneness tour with the Counting Crows that's

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Speaker 3: going to be hitting twenty nine cities across North America.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited because, you know, once I made

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Speaker 2: it this. I'm gonna visit my light, my own dividity

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Speaker 1: Kind of apple fire do you use? What kind of guitar?

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Speaker 2: The applifier the guitar is me. I'm the cell. You know,

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Speaker 2: So hanging run Jeram maclauckle and we found a guru,

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Speaker 2: Man, there's why I change words, and it stimulates me.

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Speaker 2: I never received a lot of compliments, you know, from

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Speaker 2: De and he said to me, he says, uh, your

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Speaker 1: And I would like, ah, that's who.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, you know, so It means that

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Speaker 2: Create a global woodstock Friday, Saturday Saturday. You didn't do

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Speaker 2: you harm any oneness with elective artists, elective songs. It's

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Speaker 2: I enjoy watching scary movies out Fridays. When I was young, Dracula,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Santiaga is a language of light and joy and love.

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's not that many bands you can

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Speaker 2: So it makes me feel grateful that I'm living a

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Speaker 3: August tenth, nineteen sixty nine, and I was privileged to

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Speaker 2: I remember constantly winning a battle over fear, you know,

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Speaker 2: If I'm walking around like I'm nervous nelly, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I've been on here. You know, it's something that

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Speaker 3: You explain to somebody what it feels like when you're

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Speaker 1: You know there's a proof right there. They say, proof

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Speaker 2: Look look at her, look at her, and look at him.

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Speaker 2: That's what music does, whether it's from Beethoven or the

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Speaker 3: Can you share three quintessential albums that to this day

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Speaker 2: I love Supreme, Thegil Cultrip Uh Miles, They Musketch It Suspain,

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Speaker 2: I grab taking those songs that I called them today's elists,

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like being over to the top. Patriotic,

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Speaker 2: I pete out of it. That's what it's called patriotic

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Speaker 2: you know. I patriotic to me is pretty star, you know,

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Speaker 2: heymn Satanna's got something differently, I mean, he got everybody

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Speaker 2: elated going out and we celebrate people. What do you celebrate?

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Speaker 2: We celebrate our light, and we celebrate our spirit and

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Speaker 1: Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for all you continue to give us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being on Taking a Walk, good luck.

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Speaker 1: we got to talk.

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