1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Legs podcast I'm as Williams. In January, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: one NFL legend Late Bruleson hosted a filming discussion for 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: college prayers participating in the East West Trine Boat Jodan 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Hill with forty Niners quarterback lit moments and Tampa Bay 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: Line R Shack Barrett. Let's listen in. Thank you so much, 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: So let's jump right into this guy. Um, this year 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: is a little bit different in the sense that the 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: East West phrine game, it's not how we experienced it. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: So one um as I tossed it to you and 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: Shack will start with you. Um, what what was um 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the year that you played in the East West trin game? 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: And then what was an advantage that you felt like 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: you had when you were involved in that entire week? 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: So I came out I was the fourteen year and 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: the advantage I felt was just planning in front of 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: uh NFL coaches non getting a little let I got 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: on what they expect out of you and practice what 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: they want to see how they want you to practice. 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: And then just like some of the term analogy that 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: they was using, just trying to figure out and get 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: that down and then just trying to be able to 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: just play fast and be able to read and react. 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest one was like just playing 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: in front of the NFL cultures and line and a 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: little bit about their schemes and how they like everything 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: to flow. Now, what about you, Nick, Yeah, it was 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: my first taste in the NFL. Going from college to pro. Um, 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: you hear all about what to expect and things like that, 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: but it was your first taste of NFL terminology, um, 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: different schemes, you know, with routes, combinations, and then just 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: being around the NFL coach and see how they operate. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Understanding that everything is it's it's a profession um at 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: that at this point, and so just taking in all 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: those details from the week, and the advantage I took 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: is just being around those people and showing them that 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I could play and then I could lead a team. Yeah, 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Um, I'm gonna age myself a 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: lot between like the old scient tripping. I came out 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: three and I remember receiving that letter, uh you know, 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm reading this thing and I'm like the 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: East West Shrine game, man, that's what's up. My My 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: mother and father from San Francisco for the so to 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: go play in the Bay. It was an absolute honor 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: to me. Um. The reason why the East West Shrine 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: Game was special to me is because my last year 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: in college, my junior year, I had one hundred and 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight catches. And this isn't me pating myself on 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: the back. It was just one of them years. Um, 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: it was divine intervention. I think I was more focusing 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: on I've ever been in my life. I worked out 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: way harder than any of my opponents. So when I 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: lined up at the line of scrimmage, I knew that 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: the cornerback safety, whoever they put on me, I was 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna cook him. I just I had that type of confidence. 55 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: And by the end of the year, I looked up 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: and I was one of the best receivers in the nation, 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: which was shocking to this humble kid from Seattle. I 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: mean guys like Andre Johnson, Charles Rodgers rest in Peace 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: and point Voting, Bryan Johnson, Tyron Calicular, The list goes 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: on and on. All these guys I kept hearing about 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: all year, and then here's my opportunity to play an 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: All Star game. I didn't get invited to the Senior Bowl. 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: So when I showed up to the East West Shrine game, 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is it, Like this 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: is legitimately my one shot and and and to be honest, 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I was a little hesitant because I was like, do 67 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I actually belong? I went to the Vadarino like we're 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: on a big school So I like, I kind of 69 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: felt like the quiet kid in the classroom. And the 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: only way that I can excel is if my homeworks 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: spoke for itself. So everyday practice I was focused. I 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: was listening. And they always told us. I don't know 73 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: if they told you guys, but like everybody's watching you 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: at every moment. So whether you're getting ready for practice, 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: leaving practice, you're at the hotel, walking around, you're eating dinner, um, 76 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: the vets, the scouts, the coaches, um, even the firms 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: and agents, everybody that might have been in this this 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: this whole week that we knew as the East West Shrine. Um, 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: they're always watching. So I made sure I did everything 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: as perfect as I can. Was I perfect, No, not 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: by any means UM. And I realized after a couple 82 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: of practices, I'm like, wait a minute, Like, not only 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: man as good as these guys, but I think I 84 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: might even stand out a little bit now that feeling 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it became addicting to me, because the only way that 86 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: you can stand out in the NFL is if you 87 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: think like that literally at every moment of the day, 88 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: like Mamba mentality. You have to wake up want greatness. 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: You have to go to sleep want great greatness. You 90 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: have to show up for practice, you gotta study film, 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: you gotta approach every single day like it's your last day. Um, 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: And there's moments in my career. This is just me 93 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: speaking transparently, and we'll get to what happens in the league, 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: but there's moments in your career that you have to 95 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: remind yourself how hungry you once work. You gotta humble 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: yourself and say yo yo, the old Nate nah, he 97 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: would sacrifice a few things to get better. Today. This 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: new dude, this one that that's out there feeling himself. 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: That's not the same dude that showed up to the 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: East West Shrine game. So so I felt like this 101 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: this game helps set the tone for what was an 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: eleven year career from me. Um. And this is kind 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: of a hard question answer for both of you. Guys, Nick, 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Uh, this is different, this is 105 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: a different year for these young men, UM, and there 106 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: is no game. So how do they kind of take 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: advantage of what not only the East West Shrine UM 108 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: and that committee, but also what the NFL is doing 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: to offer this young group of talent. Yeah, definitely, Well, 110 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: any opportunity you have, whether it's these meetings, I think 111 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: you guys might have some with some head coaches the 112 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: next UM. You might be sitting behind your computers, but 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: be taking notes. Like even as Nate's talking, I'm taking 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: notes in my head just from hearing from an older guy. 115 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: And I've been in it for four years now, so 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: and it just talked to people. I guess that that 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: would be my my advice, Like, no matter who it is, 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: find access to NFL players and pick their brains. UM. 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: And that's that's a temporary UM solution UM to no game. 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Just just learn as much as you can. And I 121 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: just learned by hearing from experience, and so that's what 122 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I would do. And at the same time, UM, the 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: opportunities might seem far away as far as pro days 124 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: and camp and O t A s and things like that, 125 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: but they're not time goes by so fast. Um, seven 126 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean seven day weeks, you know, I mean just work. Um. 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, you're what you do now is going to 128 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: dictate what happens in your future. So don't lose sight 129 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: of that, because I promised it all adds up and 130 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: it whatever you do comes to light. Um. And so 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: that's what I would say, Zack. What about you when 132 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: when you when you're thinking about these young guys who 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: are in the position that you once we're in, Um, 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: what would be the advice that you give them about 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: taking taking advantage of this virtual moment um. There's gonna 136 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: be a ton of conversation and it's not easy. We 137 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: were also young fresh out of college and Titcher span 138 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: crazy short. Um. You know, we sit in the meetings 139 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: and we like, all right, four hours and I go 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: chill on the room. So, like, what would you say 141 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: to these young guys that are sitting back and I'm 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: about to go through this virtual experience of what Ease 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: West Trine is. So I'm gonna I just tell all 144 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: of them and all y'all just just like just take 145 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: it for what it is, Like you gotta approach it 146 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: like this is your livelhood like if you want this 147 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to be your life for your next few years, treated 148 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: like that. I know me personally, I know I didn't 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: have I had a plan B, but I like to 150 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: think I didn't have a plan B because I was 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: putting all my eggs and the best sort of making 152 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: football work. So I treated it like that every day. 153 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: I put all the work in that I could. Like 154 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: you were saying, like, it's probably not to the same 155 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: level as it used to be now, like you said, 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: like shot back in East West Rhyne shot when it 157 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: did that, Shack would a sacrifice a little bit more 158 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. But just treated like just treated 159 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: like it's everything to you, man, because it is. If 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to be your career, you gotta treat it 161 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: like that. You gotta sack mix check of Fight says. 162 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: You can be doing the stuff that she was doing 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: in college, going out party and and drinking all the time. 164 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're done. I wasn't doing that 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: in college because I was I was had a family 166 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: bag that had a wife and kid. But uh, just 167 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: just make make sure it's important. If it's important, you 168 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: all treated like it's important mine because just like you said, 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: a career and football is usually three years. So I'm 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: fortunate to be one year seven right now. And you 171 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: said you was what thirteen, eleven, eleven, Yeah, and Nick 172 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: on four. So we we we're doing and we're breaking 173 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: a little three year curse. So were all doing something 174 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: different than the normal football players who just try to 175 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: do that for sure. For sure, Man, that's some real talk. 176 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Shack started young. It's in college, what definitely was most 177 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: of us are trying to figure out where that sandwich 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: was coming from. You. Uh, we're about the sandwiches too. Yeah, 179 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: that's the fact. All jokes aside. Respect respect to you, 180 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure there's some players that are tapping 181 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: in right now that might be in that exact same situation. So, um, 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you have more than just your career to worry about, 183 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: which is a good thing. All right. So I'm gonna 184 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: start this next one off. I mean, we're gonna talk 185 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: about the league in a second, but I'm gonna ask 186 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: you guys small bit of advice you would give to 187 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: the younger version, I mean the collegiate version that that 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: guy that's taking that step from college to the NFL. 189 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: For me, Um, I'll go back to something I just reference. 190 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: If I could grab young Nate at one years old, 191 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: fresh out of college, UM I would. I would ask 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: him why was he so good his junior year, and 193 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: my response, as a young player would be similar to 194 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: what I just said. I worked out with my team, 195 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: and then I worked out with a trainer. Um. I 196 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: was raised. I was raised in a Christian home, so 197 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: like for me, purity was something I want to focus 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: on at some point in college. You know, I'm not 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: saying I was a saint in college, but after a 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: couple of years of of hanging out doing my thing, UM, 201 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me, let me just 202 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: typen up. I just want to typen up the screws 203 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: and figure out how focused I can really be. So purity, purity, 204 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: purity was it. I was locked in a Bible study 205 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: every week. I was doing a youth program with the 206 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: church for high school kids. I went so deep into 207 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: throwing away everything that would influence me. I was young 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: and impressionable, and to a certain extent, I steal them. 209 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: I think we all are you know, we we say 210 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: that we we eventually turned into the company we keep. 211 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to priest to y'all, I'm just 212 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: telling you how I would talk to young name. So 213 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: what I did is I threw away every CD that 214 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: had cursed words on it. Now I'm an hip hop head, 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: like I grew up in the eighties and the nineties 216 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: and the two thousand's, Like, I'm hip hop and not 217 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: like some of your mumble were at hip hop. I'm like, 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: like real deal hip hop. Right. So I did that 219 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: because I was told along time ago that there's two 220 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: types of wolves inside of you. The one you feed 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: the most, that's the one that's gonna win. Um. So 222 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: I applied that to everything I was win in college. 223 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: I was like, so, if I'm partying all the time, 224 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: kicking it all the time, I'm just doing what college 225 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: students do, not over the top. But if I'm doing that, 226 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: then part of who I am is going to be that. 227 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: But if I don't do that, how much time can 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I dedicate to my academics? How much time can I 229 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: dedicate to my athletics? How much time can I dedicate 230 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: to being a more spiritually sound person, UM physically fit person, 231 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: a mentally strong person. Right after a while, I realized, 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: without all the nonsense that we typically placed on our plates. 233 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: It was easier for me to digest information. And because 234 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: of that, like purity was that was my main focus, 235 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: and football became easy, Like no joke became easy at 236 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: thirty nine, if I could talk to twenty one year 237 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: old name is about to go in the league, I'll 238 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: be like, look, you know how purity was your focus. 239 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: There's going to be times in your career where you're 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to tap into that. And it's not always 241 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: the harsh things like women and partying and drink. It's 242 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: not always that. It could also be like your addiction 243 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: to social media, or or your your your need to 244 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: always be praised, or or are your desire to feel 245 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: like you're always the man, because all that's gonna disappear. 246 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, for a long time, you guys were as 247 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: great as anybody. Most of you all was the best 248 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: playering team. Forever you get to leave, you gotta wash that. 249 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: So if your pure your approach, you'll be able to 250 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: digest information quickly. These guys know the business of football 251 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: is gonna get real, Like as soon as the coach 252 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: comes up to you and tell you, hey, well listen man, 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we like you, we really do. 254 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: But I mean you had that injury, you know, and 255 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: then that one game you really didn't and then we 256 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: got a guy and you know he's coming upside. You 257 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: take this deal. I know it's not what you wanted. 258 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Another I know. I'm just saying, like the business, it 259 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: starts to sink in and now all of a sudden 260 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you get feelings hurt. But if you pure in your approach, 261 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: that don't even bother you. You're just power right through that, 262 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and then you can attack every goal that you got 263 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: in front of you. Shock. Let me ask you and 264 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: Nick quickly, if you could give your young version of 265 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: yourself some advice, what would you say? So, UH tell 266 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: myself to just make sure you stay humble, humble yourself, 267 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and then just be confident what you bring to the table. 268 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: Don't like it's easy to look at other people and 269 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: compare yourself to other people like that. Ain't make do 270 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: this better than me? They like, But you're still young, 271 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: You're still learning, and so make sure you can still 272 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: learn from them people, but still be confident and your 273 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: abilities in your way that you can affect the game 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: and play the game. So that's what I did my 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: first YoY watch Von Von a lot of watch d 276 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: wear a lot. Because I was on practice squad and 277 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I was going against the one offensive tackle, I was 278 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: able to work on a lot of those moves that 279 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: I saw them doing and try to make them my own. 280 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: And I uh got a lot of confidence to like 281 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: just pass rush and getting off the ball, learning how 282 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: to go off the snack count like just like that, 283 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: or going before the snap count a little bit. So 284 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: I just got a lot more comfortable with just being 285 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: out there, like and there's usually your first year and 286 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: your hey, it's spending a live So if you could 287 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: slow the game down the best way you can, just 288 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: be able to read and react, you'll have a good 289 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: time out there. You'll be able to play to what 290 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: you want to play, and the coaches a level DC 291 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: no doubt, Nick, What about you? Yeah, I think the 292 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: biggest thing I would tell myself is you can handle 293 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: so much more than you think. And I think that 294 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that goes with um I guess going through trying times 295 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: it does. But at the same time, just training your mind, 296 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: and you train your mind through hard work and daily work. 297 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: One thing I've learned throughout the league, we call it 298 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: deliberate practice. And so you go through practice, you do 299 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: your walkthroughs. I mean, for us, as a quarterback, talk 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: about a play action fake. You know what you have 301 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: to do on the play. You know you gotta play 302 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: action fake. All right, Well, in that certain rep, be 303 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: deliberate as you can and make that the best play 304 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: action fake that you've ever done. And if you do 305 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: that every rep, day by day, um, then you look 306 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: up and you're like, I'm a great football player in 307 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: this league, know, And I think that's a daily process. 308 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a learned process. But as a linebacker, 309 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: as a receiver, you know you gotta you know, you 310 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: gotta release. You know you gotta get outside. Don't just 311 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: get outside. Don't just get outside. Be very detailed with 312 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: your left right release off the line and then shoulder 313 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: through to get outside. Um. And we call that deliberate practice. 314 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: And that's just being as as consistent on the details 315 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: as you can every rep. And then all of a sudden, 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: you look up like, I've made a lot of improvements 317 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: in the past week, in the past month, um. And 318 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: then you look up in the past year and you're 319 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: a very successful player with a lot of momentum. And 320 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: so if I could just tell myself and then talking 321 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: about the information just to handling more in your mind, 322 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: if I would have told myself that I could start 323 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: sixteen games and handle that in information overload that the 324 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: NFL brings, I might not. I might not would have 325 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: put my money on that. Bet Um. One thing you 326 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: learned the more you do it, the more you realize, 327 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: like Shaq was talking about coming in with confidence, you 328 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: can do that stuff and you can be very good 329 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: at it. And that just goes through hard work, had 330 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: delivered practice nice. All right, So let's move along to 331 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: like entering the league. Either of you got drafted so 332 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: one shack, let me ask you, did you expect that? 333 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: And then how did you handle it? So I was 334 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: expecting to be late round guy, maybe five through seven, 335 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: and then when that didn't happen, it just put a 336 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder. I'm ready to go off there, 337 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: show the Broncos that they did a good job by 338 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: bringing me in as undrafted guy. But then show a 339 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of dirty one teams that y'all missed out on 340 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity of having me. But the most definitely added 341 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: more fuel to the fire. And it just uh it 342 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: just it just got it makes you think that your 343 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: mind set, like thing like what the numbers I had, 344 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: the stats I did, like it still wasn't good enough, 345 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: like what they're looking for, and just making you sectly 346 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: get yourself but still like there's literally nothing nothing like 347 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing in your control that you could worry it, 348 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: but you gotta just take it the next play or 349 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: exam or next day of practice and once you get 350 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: there to where you had, you gotta just do what 351 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: you've been doing to get you there, because that's why 352 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: they brought you in. There's something that you do that 353 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: they like that, uh, make you want to give them 354 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: give you a chance with That's what I'll talk Nick. 355 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: What about you? Did you did you expect to go undrafted? 356 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: And then once you were, how did you handle it? Yeah? 357 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it's important to realize, kind of realize your situation, 358 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: be real with yourself. I mean, um, six one to ten, 359 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: round four eight and don't have the strongest arm, and 360 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: so you kind of have to understand I'm not gonna 361 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: be a first round pick, but I I thought maybe 362 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: seventh round. I mean I had a hell of a 363 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: college career, four year starter with great status, and wins. 364 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: So it's important to be just real with your situation. 365 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: UM I didn't expect. I expected to maybe seventh round 366 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: if I got lucky. But in my mind, it wasn't 367 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: about where where I got drafted or where I didn't. UM. 368 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: I always just told myself one thing. I always said, 369 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to get an opportunity in the NFL. It's 370 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's gonna last, but it's 371 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: gonna be up to me how long it lasts. And 372 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: um so that's all I could ask for. It's just 373 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity. I signed undrafted with the forty niners, and 374 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: I think we'll get into about how to stick around 375 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. But it's important to be real 376 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: with yourself, be real with your situation, and then once 377 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: you get on the field, none of that, none of 378 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: that matters. It's all about what you do in the 379 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: place that you make no doubt about it. And Nick 380 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: four A, it's pretty good, man, I mean it's pretty good. 381 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if i'll give you the 382 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: nickname Nick the Quick, but solid A couple of couple 383 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: first downs here and there. Yeah, I see you. You 384 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: be scared with it. You'd be scared too. You'd be like, 385 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: let me get this first there, Yeah, you know, let 386 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: me you know, you guys touched on something. I'm gonna 387 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: move on to your rookie year. You gots touched on something. Um, 388 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: And you're both kind of saying the same thing. Nick, 389 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: you're saying, you know, be realistic, understand who you are, 390 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: and be aware. And I think sometimes as athletes we 391 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: lack awareness, especially when there's a lot of people tell 392 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: you how great you are. You get it an inflated 393 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: ego and then you start to see an exaggerated version 394 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: of yourself. Um and shack you. You talked about it. 395 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: You're like, there's a reason why this team brought me in, 396 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: so so what is that reason? Hone in on that 397 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: and continue to show him that at the very least, Um, 398 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: both of those things are great and they parallel each other, 399 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: because if you have your strengths, just know them. I've 400 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: always said it, like, these are your strengths that right 401 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: there should never did ever and these are your strength 402 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: until the day you put the rock down, you should 403 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: just go up. Period. And if you have weaknesses, then 404 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about those? You raised those 405 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: at the same time. Sometimes you forget about your strengths 406 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: and you're raising your weaknesses, and then you're unbalanced. For me, 407 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: I knew what I can do when I left college. 408 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: I can jump. I got to the combine what I do. 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: My ass jumped. I had forty two and a half 410 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: his vertical. I was like, look, I'm not built like 411 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. I might not run a four or three, 412 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: but I know I can jump. I'm gon run a 413 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: four four, and I'm gonna the rock and good routes. 414 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: So those things that they saw in film, I showed 415 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: them exactly that. And and then as I got in 416 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: the league, I was like, all right, what kind of 417 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: you better at? Oh all right, let's add more releases 418 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: because these guys is physical with the line of streamings. Okay, 419 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: all right, you gotta bird chest. We're gonna have to 420 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: hit that weight. What I'm saying, you gotta you gotta. 421 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: You gotta be physical, get them linebackers, and you gotta 422 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: look good with the shirt off when you vacation in 423 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: with the wife. Okay, all right, you building on all 424 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: these little what your understanding of defenses? You gotta get smarter, ny, 425 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: all right, this is in college bro where it's just 426 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: cover three and and cover two and cover that said, 427 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: or you're gonna see six boundary in the cat corner 428 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to get inside and read defenses 429 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: from linebacker out. All right, improve those things little by little, 430 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: and once you do, you realize my strengths got need. 431 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: I can jump by higher now, but now my weaknesses 432 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: are my weaknesses anymore, and it makes me a more 433 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: complete player. Let's move this along to rookie year. Both 434 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: of you spent your time your rookie season on the 435 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: practice squad, So one um, tell everybody kind of what 436 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: that is like and what it was like for you. 437 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: And also in the sense, maybe shake the negative connotation 438 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: of what the practice squad is because somebody sometimes people 439 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: here and they're like, ah, man, practice squad. But sometimes 440 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: it's not about where you start is where you finished? Right, Nick, Yeah, 441 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: big time? I mean no being on practice squad. There's 442 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed about, that's for sure. And careers 443 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: can be born off of starting on the practice squad. 444 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: My story. But one other guy, um are starting corner, 445 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Moseley. He was undrafted out of Tennessee. Our coach 446 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: talks about it all the time. Um. The only reason 447 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: that he kind of got bumped up was the way 448 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: that they watched him operate for an entire year on 449 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: the practice squad. And it goes similar with my story. 450 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: But you know, on the scout team, you're told, um, 451 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: what to do, but then it's up to you about 452 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: how you do it, how detailed, how focus and how 453 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: real you can you can play the rep and things 454 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: like that. Um, so that's that's one guy that comes 455 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: to my mind as far as just I mean the 456 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: coach literally talks about it all the time. Just we 457 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: picked him because he took Scout team seriously. And um, 458 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: that was the same way with me. Talked about being 459 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Um, you might not get to 460 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: show all your talents, but you can't be the smartest 461 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: guy in the room. And that's um that was huge 462 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: for me, Like, you know, the starters get the reps 463 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and things like that, but you can be the smartest 464 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: guy in the room. And then I think we can 465 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: do you want me to go and talk about just 466 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the year on practice squad process and yeah, so, um, 467 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: I think it's great to just sit back and learn 468 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and listen. It was cool to just kind of. It 469 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: was really just a year to see what the NFL 470 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: is all about, how it operates, and while you're on 471 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: practice squad, just identify the veterans that worked the hardest 472 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and just try to do what they do. And so 473 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: I think there's there's so many tidbits of wisdom you 474 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: could learn from just sitting back and watching, and I 475 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: think I did that very well in my rookie year. 476 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: No doubt about an now chat. I gotta tu up 477 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: because you've mentioned this not only on my show, but 478 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: you know you often us talk about the influences that 479 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: you had when you came in and guys being watched 480 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: you listen to a mimic, So who were those guys 481 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: and what kind of things that they say to you 482 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: and teach you coming in. I was on practice squad 483 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: my first year, you know, disappointed after being cut. You 484 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: want somebody else to pick you up and go somewhere 485 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: else and you can play, because because the connotation with 486 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: the practice squad was like you just practice all the 487 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: time without playing, and pay was significantly different than the 488 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: rest of the league. But uh, once you get past that, 489 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: you understand that you're still on the NFL team and 490 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: you still want play away from being uh from being active. 491 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: That's when I was. I started putting the work and 492 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I still wanted to hold on and go back. In hindsight, 493 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I needed practice squad. I was not ready to be 494 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: active player break before you move on. Why why do 495 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: you say that? Because like when I first came up, 496 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: like I had my strengths. My strengths was I would 497 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: double swipe around the edge as a pass rusher, but 498 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: you can't do that every play, and my ball rush 499 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: I didn't have a really good bull rush. I would 500 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: get stuck on my ball rush. I had to work 501 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: on my power a little bit more. So. I only 502 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: really had like them to pass rushing moves coming out, 503 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: and that wasn't enough to crack the rotation um the 504 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: dever Broncos pass rushing or outside linebackers. And like Constant, 505 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. So the practice squad was the best 506 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: thing for me at that time. But me back then, 507 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think that. I thought I was ready and 508 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to contribute right away. So that's why like 509 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready and I needed practice squab was lady 510 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: beneficial for me. So just coming in, I'm just looking 511 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: like I've never seen somebody practice the way of Von 512 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: Miller practice. He lounged on and people to the ground, 513 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: his spend move looking good, and like I never tried 514 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: to spend move. I was never confident enough to try 515 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: to spend move. And then just practice practice squad just 516 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: got me confident enough to start working stuff and trying 517 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: to improve myself. Like you said, my weaknesses was down here, 518 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: I started raising them up and trying to add more 519 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: moves to my arsenal and that ended up working, and 520 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: now I have a pretty good amount of moves I 521 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: can do just just talking with them guys and our 522 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: individual individual meetings, our coach. We had a lot of 523 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: good coaches, So coaches, how about a lot too when 524 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: you have guys and you run with the like of 525 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the caliber that we had the coaches, let them talk, 526 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: let us ask him a lot of questions, and to 527 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: meet and so Von and d Ware. D Ware was 528 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: very technical with everything he was done. He knew exactly 529 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: hand placement with steps like he was very technical and 530 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I learned. I learned a lot from the Ware, But 531 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: my past rush style wasn't more of the power of 532 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: rushes the way he did so I'm gravitated towards von 533 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: Miller Moore, so we uh, I just picked his brain 534 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: like he literally opened book him and be where it 535 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: was open books. And we still had the other guy, 536 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: Laurente mccraie, he still was an open book. He was 537 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: backing up for Vaughan at the time. And just all 538 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: those guys just willing to share the knowledge that they had, 539 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: and I just tried my best to soak it all 540 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: up into applied on the field and gain the confidence 541 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: like just doing the moves. And they're not going to 542 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: be successful the first time, the second time, maybe not 543 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: even the third time. I want to move on to uh, 544 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to to the plan once you actually feel like an 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: established player because you guys um made it through the 546 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: grind and then you start to earn a little bit 547 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: of respect and a little bit more planning time and 548 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: hopefully a little bit more money. And we know that 549 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: the average careers for three seasons, three and some change. Uh, 550 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: what do you believe is the recipe for success? M 551 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: I want to get to what you guys doing the 552 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: community in the second But what do you believe? Because 553 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: here's the thing, these young guys, they're not only dealing 554 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: with trying to prove themselves as players, trying to train 555 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: their butts off for this This combine experience is going 556 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: to be a little bit different this year, getting prepared 557 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: for the summer camps and whether they're gonna get drafted 558 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: or priority free agent or you or whatever it is. 559 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: And you have you have the football side of it, 560 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: and then you have the family, the friends, new friends, 561 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: new family, that one cousin you never knew you had. 562 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: You got business people coming in. I got this great idea. Man, 563 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: I know you've got money. I can turn that million 564 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: into three whatever it is. You have all these and 565 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: then you have financial advisors, Hey, I can do right 566 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: by you. You hire me, You're good. You have these 567 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: marketing firms. Hey, I'll turn your brand into Lebron James. 568 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: You got all of these different things that they have 569 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: to worry about. What would you say should be the 570 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: most important things as it pertains to longevity out your career? Nick, Yeah, 571 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: I think the thing that I feel most is, don't 572 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: forget what brings all those those blessings, all those um 573 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: and that's that's how you perform and and that's what 574 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: you do on the football field, and how you do 575 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: your job, and so that's I mean, that's kind of 576 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: It's just what I was just remember, like if you 577 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, going on vacations, you're live in the highlights, 578 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: You're doing all these cool things, you're getting new blessings. 579 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: You're only doing that because you're doing great in the 580 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: football field. And you're only doing great on the football 581 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: field because you're improving your weaknesses, you're and getting better 582 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: as a football player. So that's that's one thing I 583 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: was just remember, Yeah, Jack, what about you? So I think, uh, 584 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: just I became more of a faithful person this past here, 585 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: So I think having a being centered and whatever faithful religion. 586 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm Christian, so Christianity being centered with that helps you, 587 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: like in a long run, with every bang. But also 588 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: uh just just like the belief, just the belief in yourself. 589 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: But but you're right, it's it's it's having faith in 590 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: something deeper. Because Shack, you made a good point. If 591 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: you don't have faith in something deeper than the surface, 592 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna have faith in a whole bunch of bs 593 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: out there. You're gonna have a faith in the financial advisor. 594 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: You could be leading you wrong way. And I'm not 595 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: saying financial visors are bad, just saying you don't want 596 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: to be leaning on your marketing team to make your 597 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: bigger brand like Nick is saying you should be leaning 598 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: on your resume and what you put out there on 599 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: the field. But Shack, you're right. Being grounded in something 600 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: it keeps you, It keeps you, It keeps you with 601 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a strong foundation. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. And I do 602 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: believe that as uh, you can't come into the league 603 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: one with somebody in year five have already you gotta 604 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: like take it like as you get it, like, Yeah, 605 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: one you learned about I think the best thing you 606 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: could do is become as comfortable as possible with the 607 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: playbook as soon as possible. So if you could do that, 608 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: you can play the way you want to play. You 609 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: could be able to see stuff a lot quicker because 610 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: you already know what you have to do if this 611 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: happens or if that happens. So I will tell y'all 612 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: to become familiar with the playbook as quick as possible, 613 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: and now to help y'all out to go as far 614 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: as y'all want to go. Yeah, And and once the 615 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: world stop stops spending so quickly, which is what you 616 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: rookies usually deal with, like, oh, it's all moving so fast, 617 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: just trying to get my foot and it's like it's 618 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: like you're in the deep end doggy paddling. Once you 619 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: actually do settle down. UM, it's great to to get 620 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: involved in the different communities that you may have played in. 621 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: UM And I like to say, be tintoes down in 622 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: certain places because those cities they will reward you, not 623 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: in monetary value, but more just the love that they 624 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: give you. Shock. So what are some of the things 625 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: that you're doing in the community and what you do 626 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: on your downtime, and then Nick you can follow. So 627 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: when I usually go in the community, uh, like one time, 628 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: was it doing COVID. I think it was right before 629 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: COVID or something. I went and helped give out some 630 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: mills to it was actually doing COVID to a lot 631 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: of the the workers that was at the hospital. Yeah, 632 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: all that essential workers at the hospital. I did that. 633 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: But I usually, you know, I'm don't let your right 634 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: hand over the left hand on the type of guys 635 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: I usually I like just adored and just anymous ly 636 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: door too, because I don't want people knowing I don't 637 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: even like really talking about it that much because it's 638 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: sounds like I just want to as long as the 639 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: little no I did it, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, 640 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: I feel that and I appreciate that. But you know, 641 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: right now I'm asking you though, so I think it's 642 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: not you patting yourself on the back of this moment. 643 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Is showing these young guys that you can be a 644 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: star player in this league but also do things off 645 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: the field that help other people. So you know, is 646 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: there anything else that your your foundation does? Oh? So 647 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: my foundation foundation, we just started that this year with 648 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: my wife is uh chargoning to helping the foster system, 649 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: foster kids, foster parents just uh give them some semblance 650 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: of normalcy in their life, just trying to take some 651 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: stress off their played man, because I feel as though, 652 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: no kid you have to worry about anything that that's 653 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: not having fun. Old band the kid man that does 654 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: just like near and dead to our hearts. And we 655 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: excited that we launched that and excited to get that, 656 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: no doubt. Nick, what about two Yeah, I think, Um 657 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: I've done my stuff more through the team um in 658 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: the NFL every Tuesday. Um, I mean the team just 659 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: provides so many opportunities to help influence the community. And 660 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: I think, Um, I mean Tuesdays, you're off day. Sometimes 661 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: you might you know, feel tired and things like that, 662 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: but the opportunity to connect with different people has been awesome. 663 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: We went to the Juvenile um Center in San Jose 664 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: and just you know, showing those kids that there is 665 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: light even when they when they might not think so, 666 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out spending time with the kids. And 667 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: then UM done a lot of work with the cancer 668 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: hospitals there in San Jose. Um, you know, I mean 669 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: just uh, that's something that I've never really been around, 670 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: is a cancer patients. But if you see their positivity, 671 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's inspiring to me. UM, Like I should 672 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: be inspiring them, you know, telling them to be built 673 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: up and things like that, but but they that inspires me. 674 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: So there's so many opportunities and I'd recommend all you 675 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: guys take advantage when you get that time. UM. And 676 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: that's one thing the NFL does. People say that we're 677 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: just athletes, but the NFL develops men, grown men that 678 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: do a lot to impact the community. And so it's 679 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: been great. I meant, a lot of people Thanksgiving handing 680 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: out meal plates and things like that. So there's just 681 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: so many ways to connect, to make people smile and 682 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: to improve the life of others and ultimately improves your life. 683 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: So I definitely recommend you guys take advantage of all 684 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the opportunities for sure, just like you. For the first 685 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: part of my career, I was just doing with the team, 686 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: would offer up on Tuesdays. Um. You know, there's times 687 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: when I was young and I was tired, I was 688 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: banged up. Then as I got older, I realized, like 689 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: me being young and tired, like that's nothing compared to 690 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: going to a juvenile or a hospital, or talking to 691 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: a kid in the orphanage, or even quite frankly, some 692 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: adults that that are part of these events, that just 693 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: love to see their favorite players show up at um 694 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: certain events in their community. So you don't have to 695 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: feel pressured to, you know, start art with a huge foundation. 696 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: If you're in a previous position to do that, like 697 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: shock is I started in the middle of my career. Um, 698 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: you can do that. But if you just want to 699 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: do something that makes your community smile, but more importantly 700 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: makes you feel really good, go out there and get involved. 701 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: Get involved in there is a million things, a million 702 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: things that your team will offer up, and then the 703 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: NFL in general. This has been the NFL Legends podcast. 704 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: To provide feedback or request a topic for discussion, email 705 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: us at NFL Legends at nfl dot com.