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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Man, Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you.

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Speaker 2: Holly Faust is the occult researcher for Phantom Detectives. She's

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Speaker 2: also a paranormal investigator, writer, researcher, esoteric minister, Reiki master, teacher,

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Speaker 2: psychic medium, teaching investigators the importance of clients spirituality in

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Speaker 2: the investigative process along with the importance of historical research.

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Speaker 2: She also strives to eat others in a better understanding

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Speaker 2: of occult symbols. Holly has been investigating for more than

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Speaker 2: thirty years and has had the opportunity to investigate many

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Speaker 2: locations throughout the country and has also conducted hundreds of

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Speaker 2: private investigations. She had the opportunity to study under many

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Speaker 2: veterans in the field and observed how the paranormal is

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Speaker 2: investigated by the incredible Rhine Institute in Raleigh, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Her book is called My Journey Out of the Darkness. Holly,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Hi, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting that you got in this field many

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Speaker 2: many years ago and you never got heard, did you.

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Speaker 3: I've had some experiences where I've been knocked down, I've

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Speaker 3: been scratched, I've been you know, have had things happen

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Speaker 3: to me that I've never had a very serious inner injury.

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Speaker 2: What do these dark entities want with us?

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Speaker 3: Holly, Honestly, I don't know. I think, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: there's two schools of thought. I think some of them

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Speaker 3: are actually very very evil beings that you know, want

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Speaker 3: to cause harm and want to cause mayhem. And then

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Speaker 3: on the other hand, I believe there are some that

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Speaker 3: are just you know, things that have been here for

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Speaker 3: a lot longer than we had that we just don't

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Speaker 3: understand and don't know how to explain.

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Speaker 2: How did this all start for you?

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Speaker 3: My start actually happened in probably about nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Although I had a real big interest in the paranormal

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Speaker 3: from my my teenage years, I lost a very dear friend,

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Speaker 3: like one of my closest friends, and I had so

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Speaker 3: many questions about what happened after death and where he

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Speaker 3: was actually gone to. And I had a lot of

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Speaker 3: people tell me, because of the manner of his death,

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Speaker 3: that there was no way he went anywhere good and

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Speaker 3: you know, like to a heaven or a vana. Do

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Speaker 3: or whatever you would want to call it. And I

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Speaker 3: wasn't happy with that answer because he was a good person,

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Speaker 3: so I wanted to believe that he went somewhere better

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Speaker 3: and that basically got me on my quest because I

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Speaker 3: was familiar with the paranormal and I didn't have a

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Speaker 3: lot of a push to get involved, but when he

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Speaker 3: seeking out information and trying to understand more about what

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Speaker 3: happens after death. And I wanted some type of reassurance

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Speaker 3: that he was in a better place. So I just

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Speaker 3: kept looking for like more and more information, and that's

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Speaker 3: actually what got me involved with one of the first

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Speaker 3: paranormals that I ever worked with.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get the answers you were looking for

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Speaker 2: about him?

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Speaker 3: I did? I Actually, you know, I did a lot,

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Speaker 3: you know, of different types of I went to see

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Speaker 3: psychics and mediums and so many different types of people

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Speaker 3: to try to make some contact, but it didn't seem

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Speaker 3: that anything that they could tell me was driving with

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Speaker 3: what I knew of him as a person. And it

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Speaker 3: wasn't until I was invited to a actual sayance, and

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Speaker 3: that was probably in like the mid twenty tens. I

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Speaker 3: was invited by a local paranormal research society to a

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Speaker 3: seance at their offices, and it was like a large

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Speaker 3: group seance, and you know, we were in the room

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Speaker 3: and people were asking questions, and there was some things happening,

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Speaker 3: not and things like that. You know, other things started

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Speaker 3: Are you here with me? And then they just started

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Speaker 3: naming people in the room. And when they got to

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Speaker 3: my name, the large table in the room started like moving,

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Speaker 3: had started asking some leading questions that you know, I

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Speaker 3: didn't know who it was. My dad had recently passed away,

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Speaker 3: they regretted, you know, that they weren't there longer. They

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Speaker 3: I'd actually forgotten that I had been trying to contact

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Speaker 3: you know, sitting in the back of my car. And

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Speaker 3: I wasn't fearful, and I was at peace, and I

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Speaker 3: felt truly at that point, I knew he was in

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Speaker 2: That would freak me out, Holly seem eyes in your

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Speaker 3: No, it actually gave me peace because for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: I just felt at that moment, you know. And I

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Speaker 3: still feel him now at times around me and different

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Speaker 3: things that happen in our lives, like my daughter having

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Speaker 3: thrown at her in the house. He was a comedian

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Speaker 3: in life, and I see him as a comedian in

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Speaker 3: death still, and that's how I know when he's around.

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Speaker 3: He usually does something.

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Speaker 2: Funny, little antics and things like that. Yep, did he

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Speaker 2: die way too early?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was only twenty.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is way too early. Can we

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Speaker 2: ask how he passed.

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Speaker 3: Or is that can he hen alived himself.

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Speaker 2: Explain that.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was having a lot of struggles in life,

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Speaker 3: and he was experiencing a lot of depression and unaccepted

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Speaker 3: And you know, it was just he felt that there was,

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Speaker 2: Here he's committed suicide. Yes, oh, sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 2: That's always tough to take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was very difficult for a very

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Speaker 3: long time. I went through all the emotions of anger.

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Speaker 3: Every time I had one of my children, I went

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Speaker 3: to the grave and introduced him to them and yelled

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Speaker 3: And I think it's helped me and even in my

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Speaker 2: Though a lot of us believe in life after death,

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Speaker 2: it's still tough when you lose a friend or a

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Speaker 3: Of the safe base that I was in at the time,

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Speaker 3: being told that for someone like that, there wasn't a

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Speaker 3: good outcome, and that's what got me involved in a

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Speaker 2: Now, Holly, you got into the car accident in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety four or what happened there?

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Speaker 3: I was driving to work. It was actually like one

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Speaker 3: They said, but at that point the seatbelt decided to

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Speaker 2: Did you have a near death experience?

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Speaker 3: Yes. What I remember is getting out of the car.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know at the time it was a near

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Speaker 3: And I didn't have that like you hear a lot

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Speaker 3: of times people talk about seeing this light or seeing

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Speaker 3: he was like, no, no, you were unresponsive, you were dead.

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Speaker 3: And you know he you know, I kept telling him no, no,

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Speaker 3: because I just kept insisting, you know, to go thank

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Speaker 3: the old man. And I think that also helped fuel

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Speaker 3: me to want to learn even more after having that experience,

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Speaker 3: because I could still remember that old man to this day.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why I'm still doing it after

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Speaker 3: all this time, because of that experience. Also because I

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Speaker 3: wanted to know why this old man came to me,

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Speaker 3: why my experience wasn't like all the other experiences I've

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Speaker 2: Figure out who the old man was, Holly.

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Speaker 3: No, But all I know is that my accident happened

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Speaker 2: He wasn't like Jesus or anybody like that.

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Speaker 3: No. He was a little, tiny old man with curly

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Speaker 3: I would have ever pictured, like God or Jesus or

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Speaker 2: To be and not a relative.

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Speaker 3: Nope, no one that I ever knew, No one that

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Speaker 2: How many places have you investigated to date? Do you think.

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Speaker 3: I would say it like between private investigations and you know,

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Speaker 3: the more prominent ones that I've done, it's probably well

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Speaker 2: Have that Any places scared you?

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Speaker 3: I think prisons scare me the most. West Virginia State

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Speaker 3: Penitentiary was one of It wasn't even West Virginia State

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Speaker 3: because there was just such an ominous feeling when you

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been hurt? I know we're talking about

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Speaker 2: how you've been kicked at and stuff like that, but.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been. Back in my early years when I

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Speaker 3: were at Saint Albans in Virginia and it was an

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Speaker 2: Geez, they really wanted you out of there, didn't they.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was more they had an entity there that

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Speaker 3: they call like a creeper or a crawler that comes

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Speaker 3: And you know that, you know, I have no explanation

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Speaker 3: for that. We've seen it pop out in a laser

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Speaker 2: You've been to Gettysburg? What did you feel there?

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Speaker 3: Gettysburg is Actually it's kind of become one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite places. I don't live. I only live like probably

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Speaker 3: about two hours away from Gettysburg. And the first time

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Speaker 3: I had gone there, it wasn't even know for a

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Speaker 3: paranormal investigation. It was for vacation after my father had

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Speaker 3: passed with my son and nephew, and we were out

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Speaker 3: on the battlefield up that little round top and they

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Speaker 3: you have to stay her here, and he just kept

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Speaker 3: shouting back to me, Mommy, that man can be there,

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Speaker 3: so can I. I'm following that man. And at first

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Speaker 3: I didn't see anyone standing there, like, there's nobody down there.

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Speaker 2: He had the gift. The little guy had the gift.

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Speaker 3: Huh, yes he did. And as I turned my head

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Speaker 3: was looking at a reenactor. There was a man standing

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Speaker 3: this huge floppy hat on. And you know, my mom

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Speaker 3: maybe I was seeing things. But we went outside seeing

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Speaker 3: on a ghost tour, and on the walls, I saw

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Speaker 3: my son kept pointing him out, saying, Mommy, Mommy, that's

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And so I went and asked them about it, and

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Speaker 3: they came up and told me it was a photo

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Speaker 3: of an apparition that was caught on the battlefield that

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Speaker 3: they believed was from a Texas regiment. So that was,

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the experiences like we had had

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Speaker 3: so many there. While I was there with them, we

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Speaker 3: and we had someone call from our room when we

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Speaker 3: weren't there, saying they needed help. And when we came back,

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Speaker 3: there's all these people outside our room and there was

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Speaker 2: They thought something was happening inside your room, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but there was nobody there. We were my mom

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Speaker 3: there and I open opened the door to show them

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Speaker 3: there's nobody in here.

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Speaker 2: Had clearly somebody had used your phone in the room, yep.

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Speaker 3: And we have no explanation for a house. And my

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Speaker 3: mom kept hearing a train all night and there was

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Speaker 3: no train behind the hotel we were staying out. But

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Speaker 3: then after we had talked to the people at the hotel,

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Speaker 3: that's actually the hotel where we were staying is where

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Speaker 3: the train came behind it and dropped Lincoln off where

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Speaker 3: he delivered the Gettysburg address. So that was like another

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Speaker 3: type of paranormal experience that we had there. And and

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Speaker 3: I think that keeps me going back because every time

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Speaker 3: I go, I have I find a different experience or

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Speaker 3: I get to go to a different location because the

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Speaker 3: battle field is huge. You can't do it in a day.

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Speaker 2: Lots of pain on that battlefield too, Holly, Yes.

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Speaker 3: A lot of pain. And a lot of what I've

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Speaker 3: experienced is a combination of hauntings where you know, you

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Speaker 3: have intelligent ones that ones are you know actually you

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Speaker 3: know spirits that are trying to communicate, but then other

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Speaker 3: ones are just you know, from the amount of things

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Speaker 3: re enacting things that happened over and over and over again.

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