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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, Ethan Greenberg,

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Speaker 1: Eric Allen. Here in the bed MGM studio, we have

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Speaker 1: a special guest on Dennis Wazak, a p New York

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Speaker 1: Jets Beat writers. Thanks for joining us today. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, guys, I appreciate it. So training camp underway.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this after the first day of full pads,

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Speaker 1: but was let's start you off with a lay up.

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Speaker 1: Here would have been your initial impressions of Jets camp

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Speaker 1: and what are a couple of things that stand out

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Speaker 1: to you, whether that be player or position. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: if if you want to go player first, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore has really been impressive, and I think that

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Speaker 1: it's hard to not single him out as a guy

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Speaker 1: who has stood out on the field and just he

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Speaker 1: seems to be opened all the time. He meets plays

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Speaker 1: all over the place every day, every single day, at

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Speaker 1: every practice, and so that's been really promising to see

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Speaker 1: from the rookie wide receiver. And then the other guy

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Speaker 1: who's really stood out as Carl Lawson and um, he

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Speaker 1: seems to be in the backfield every almost every play, Um,

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Speaker 1: and that is a nice thing to see. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the battle between he you know, between Lawson and Beckton

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Speaker 1: is really something to watch. And and now that pads

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Speaker 1: little more and see how they play off each other

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Speaker 1: and and that sort of thing. So that's been like,

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Speaker 1: that's been really cool. But the other thing, in a

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Speaker 1: big picture way, is the vibe. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: we've talked about it and several of the other Beat

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Speaker 1: writers just kind of the vibe around the Jets right now.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of you know, good vibes. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of optimism, new coach, the rookie quarterback. There's you know,

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Speaker 1: putting trying to put the losing in the past. And

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Speaker 1: you see, you can feel it. You know, there's something

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Speaker 1: frint right now, and you know it's a good thing

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Speaker 1: for the franchise right now. And and now you're getting

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Speaker 1: into the meat of training camp now that the pads

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Speaker 1: are on and the real work is is really starting up,

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Speaker 1: so um and then once the preseason games start. But

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Speaker 1: that that's kind of the overall field that I've gotten, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, from being here through the first six practices

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Speaker 1: and and that sort of stuff. That's a great summation.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that the Jets reported actually one week

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Speaker 1: ago today, they've already been in camp for a week.

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Speaker 1: Before you know it, we're gonna be here in early

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Speaker 1: September and talking about the Jets preparations for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I'd agree with you was if you would have picked

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Speaker 1: one player on each side of the ball who has

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Speaker 1: stood out, you kneled it. Carl Lawson looks like something

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Speaker 1: that Jets haven't had in a long time. I know

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Speaker 1: he hasn't taken a snap for the Green and White

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Speaker 1: just yet. And Elijah More Robert Salis said he's an

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Speaker 1: old soul and he's not that in very complimentary terms,

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Speaker 1: that this guy can't get enough. He absorbs a lot,

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Speaker 1: he's a versatile performer, and he just makes plays on

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Speaker 1: the football field every time we're out there. Guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the culture bit in a couple

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Speaker 1: of moments as well. But I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: your description of what was happening out there in the

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Speaker 1: practice field just hours ago as we we're just watching

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Speaker 1: a typical training camp practice, the first petted practice of

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Speaker 1: the two thousand twenty one training camp, and we looked

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Speaker 1: up and there was an offensive lineman Cam Clark down

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Speaker 1: there on the field. I never experienced anything like that

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Speaker 1: covering the Jets. Yeah, I mean, so this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been covered camp I think since two thousand five. Um,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a it's always a scary thing when

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Speaker 1: not moving, and that was what the city station was here. Um.

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Speaker 1: it just shows you that and that just any second.

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Speaker 1: long you cover the sport and whether you're covering practices games,

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Speaker 1: the injuries can happen at any point, and this is

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Speaker 1: it's a good example of that. Just how that is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're hoping by the time people are listening to this,

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Speaker 1: we have some positive news on the Camp Clark front.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I bring that up is it

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Speaker 1: was just a typical petted practice and the Jets were

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Speaker 1: Robert Sulliden, wait too long was and Ethan he said,

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Speaker 1: that's it, fellas we're not doing that last team period.

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Speaker 1: And then for ten minutes we all sat there as

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Speaker 1: But it was so eerie because you could hear a

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Speaker 1: like process of elimination. We're like, okay, well I see

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Speaker 1: the news that it was in fact Cam Clark. But

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Speaker 1: changing topics here was but keeping on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The pads come on offensive lineman obviously can get a

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Speaker 1: I like what they what they're doing. I think this

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Speaker 1: Whether that's someone fighting for a spot, a starting spot,

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Speaker 1: a depth spot. Maybe it's a second year guy, doesn't

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Speaker 1: defensive line be one of the better units in football. Um,

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Speaker 1: because Listen Lawson has been one of the stars of camp.

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Speaker 1: I know we haven't played any games yet, but now

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Speaker 1: he has. You're pairing him up with potentially a dominant middle,

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Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams, an emerging star. Sheldon Rankins is here,

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Speaker 1: fuller runs. Fatakasi probably doesn't get the ron he deserves.

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Speaker 1: He played really well last season. Heath in the middle.

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Speaker 1: We can continue to go down the line. All Bricks

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Speaker 1: said it, Jeff Albricks said it in the spring, where

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Speaker 1: a quarterbacks going to step up in the middle. Maybe

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Speaker 1: in the past and Carl Laws in his career, they

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Speaker 1: could stop up in another guy to Ethan and I

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Speaker 1: continue to talk about John Franklin Myers is quietly having

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Speaker 1: a really strong camp. Yeah, I totally agree, Um, And

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Speaker 1: that's key you refer to with Jeff ober Um. If

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks can't step up, I mean that helps. If the

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Speaker 1: Jets have a a weakness of putting quotes in the

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Speaker 1: back end, Um, that will help them because if they

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Speaker 1: are constantly putting pressure on the quarterbacks, well, the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are not going to be able to just tee off

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Speaker 1: and just throw it down field and and have you know,

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Speaker 1: rely on one on one matchups and that kind of

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Speaker 1: thing down field. I think, man, it's you mentioned all

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Speaker 1: the guys and and John Franklin Myers, Sheldon Rankins, even

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Speaker 1: Vinny Curry he hasn't practiced yet, but he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's got a ton of experience, and you mix all

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Speaker 1: those guys like, yeah, man, it's totally took the strength

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Speaker 1: of this team, but they could be one of the

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Speaker 1: best defensive lines in this league, just because also a

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Speaker 1: lot of those guys do different things. You know, you

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Speaker 1: look at Lass and he's not your traditional pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: You have Quinn and Williams in the middle follies. It's

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Speaker 1: just a big dude who's athletic, you know. And and

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins is a is a veteran who's done a

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Speaker 1: lot and and and I think he's another guy who

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Speaker 1: has something approved to you know, he is coming into

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Speaker 1: this situation where he's dealt with some injuries the past

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Speaker 1: few years. But um, when healthy, he's a force too.

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Speaker 1: So and if you look at it from that perspective, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're looking through the green and white

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Speaker 1: colored glasses at all. I think those those guys could

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Speaker 1: really be a force and and really call they could

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Speaker 1: probably help this team win a few games just playing

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Speaker 1: the way we expect them to. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you guys thought. Sal is not a cocky guy.

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Speaker 1: He just projects a lot of confidence. But when he

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Speaker 1: was talking about the defensive line the other day, he said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're doing pretty good, but then we're gonna get Quinn

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Speaker 1: and Williams back, and then we're gonna get Benny Curry

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Speaker 1: back and Phillips as well. I mean like, I think

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Speaker 1: he really senses he's got something very strong here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair and to use to bring this

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Speaker 1: back to your question that was answered, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're looking at the Jets defensive line just through breen

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Speaker 1: and white colored lenses. Will. I just want to wrap

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Speaker 1: up with this. You know, we've asked players in the

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Speaker 1: past training camp like like, what's your recipe for success?

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Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, We hydrate, we sleep, we

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Speaker 1: foam roll, we study. What is the media key to success?

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Speaker 1: Through your eyes to get through a training camp? And

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Speaker 1: what training camp years? Just for you? You've been here

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Speaker 1: since one oh six? Yeah, I took over the beat No. Six.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing was in oh five I covered training

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Speaker 1: camp as a backup, and then oh six I was

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Speaker 1: still a backup, didn't do training camp, but took over

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Speaker 1: the beat right after training camp began. So whatever that

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Speaker 1: makes it fifteen sixteen. Um, I'm still trying to figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I mean like trying to man, you know

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Speaker 1: what happened today? So you know I was overcast out

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Speaker 1: who didn't put any sunscreen on his face? And then

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Speaker 1: I really man, you you do you know, like you

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Speaker 1: gotta put the sunscreen on and so those kind of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, it's such a like a balance

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Speaker 1: of time, you know, managing your time. And you guys know,

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys are busy also, and it's just

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Speaker 1: like okay, you know, you show up to practice, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's what's going on through practice,

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Speaker 1: and then you gotta right and you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: come up with story ideas and stuff like that. You

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Speaker 1: have to pace yourself, I think at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: and no, like okay, like I don't need to tell

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Speaker 1: all the stories right now. We have a few weeks,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's the thing. Don't count, like trying

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Speaker 1: not to count, you know, Like, okay, you know, another practice,

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Speaker 1: though practices, all of a sudden, it will be week one,

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Speaker 1: and that's how it happened. Then the season rolls, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, we're like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's Thanksgiving and now all the holiday stuff is

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Speaker 1: coming out. It's like it's crazy. So yeah, that's I'm

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Speaker 1: still I'm still working on mastering the whole thing. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna break it up nice this year with the

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Speaker 1: joint practices, don't you think so? And I thought it

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Speaker 1: was very interesting what Salas said the other day that

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Speaker 1: we loved to practice with the Giants in the future,

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Speaker 1: Well not the way the Giants practice today. Apparently, all yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you making about that Jets Giant brawl next year.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that, like, once I saw the news

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Speaker 1: while we were standing there, It's like, well, maybe he

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Speaker 1: might not want to have to brawl because the Jets

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Speaker 1: and Giants have a history of of some of that.

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Speaker 1: That's why they stopped doing those joint practices because you know,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Shocky I think was involved like way back and

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Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, I mean I think you got the

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Speaker 1: Packers and Eagles. See how that goes. You got those

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Speaker 1: two teams, and and then see because it could you know,

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Speaker 1: these guys by that time, they just want to start

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Speaker 1: hitting people, you know, so we'll see. I think Jets

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Speaker 1: Giants would be pretty fired up though. And then and

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Speaker 1: then you got the Wilson Aaron Rodgers dynamic. That's the

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Speaker 1: guy who looked up to growing up. He turned twenty

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Speaker 1: two today and everybody's asking him about Brady. But he

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Speaker 1: said he was drawn more to Rogers the Flash year

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Speaker 1: that too, Yeah, make sense. Yeah, but he did call

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady to go right, you know. But but I

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Speaker 1: think it makes sense. Was because when Jack Wilson was

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Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, and in that process, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people compared Zack Wilson's style of play and

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Speaker 1: the motion to somebody like Aaron Rodgers. Don't you think

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Speaker 1: that that that was the book on him coming out

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Speaker 1: of school a little bit more than Brady at least. Yeah, definitely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was you look at him and you

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Speaker 1: think Wilson is kind of a mix of Aaron Rodgers Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: like some of the traits that those guys have. Whenever

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Speaker 1: a guy is good at those off balance throws and

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Speaker 1: and just making things out of nothing seemingly, that's that's

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Speaker 1: what you see. And and so it makes sense that

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Speaker 1: he would be more of an Aaron Rodgers guy because

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Speaker 1: that's the type of player he is than more than

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Speaker 1: a Brady. But uh yeah, I like the line. It

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, so twenty two and I

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Speaker 1: think I was I was one when he came into

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Speaker 1: the league. It's like, man, that's all field old, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, I think I could be our something.

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Speaker 1: How did that? Yeah, hey, let me tell you something here.

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Speaker 1: A little history lesson for you was from our own

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Speaker 1: Randy Lane. You know, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have never

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Speaker 1: one at the Jets. Ever. That's the only team who

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Speaker 1: have never beaten the Jets. I believe. Uh here at

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Speaker 1: home and Tom Brady is going to see they fore

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Speaker 1: mentioned Zack Wilson and company late in the year. It's

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Speaker 1: August alright, it's August three. Let's get there when we

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Speaker 1: get there, and that will come before the Jets and

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Speaker 1: Giants joint practices maybe in two thousand and twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That's all we have for this episode of the Official

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Speaker 1: Jets Podcast. Wise, thanks so much for joining us. Hey, thanks,

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Speaker 1: it was fun and we'll see you next episode on

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Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast.