1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records. Get ready 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: to hear about a historical hero through hip hop. Also, 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: parents and teachers, you can download a free activity related 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: to today's episodes by visiting story pirates dot com. Slash 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Historical Records and now onto the show. After a few 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: words for the grown ups, Hello, listeners, it's me Niminy. 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm here in my top secret underground booker as usual, 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm with my team of sound engineer raccoons. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Tina, don't be rude, say hello. Now follow me, everyone, 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: and justin heads up. I walk very quickly. Some say 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: that the way I walk. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Is nearly running, but we have no time to waste 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: because today's historical figure is Claude Colvin. Luckily, the conditions 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: for historical research are perfect. It's a beautiful day inside 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: my top secret underground. It might even be a beautiful 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: day outside my top secret underground Bucker. To be honest, 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: I haven't been outside in a week. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: What, Tuna, that's crazy. You want me to go outside 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: right now? Why would I do that? 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: Whow Tina? When you're right? You're right? 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Going outside is critical for my mental health. We have 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: a lot to do, but I should take a quick 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: moment to look outside and feel the sun on my face. Okay, 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: I'll just pick out this emergency exit. 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: And why did I do that? It Historical record. You 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: are now listening to historical work. 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: To make history, you got to have struggles to make history. 29 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: You got to show pois. 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Cannot be quiet loud as the right to make history to. 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Make some noise. 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Listeners, welcome back to Historical Records, where we conduct highly 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: experimental experiments combining history and hip hop. Today's episode is 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: about the trailblazing civil rights activist Claw Deck Covin. 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Also, I just tripped the alarm. 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: The alarm has been tripped there maybe and intruder. 37 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's no intrudery. It was me. I 38 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: cannot take your word. 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Worry. 40 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: I'll come on disembodied robot boile. 41 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: That night in one minute, or the authorities will be cold. 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, I hate bureaucracy. Also one minute. That's not 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot of wickle room. And I don't even know 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: where to turn off the securities and stuff. Tina, what 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: aren't we gonna do? 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: Wait? We have a security center I passed yesterday. That 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: must be where we have to turn this thing off. 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: If I'm remembering correctly, it's directly below us, about forty 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: stories down. Come on, raccoons, we'll take the stairs. Ah, 50 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: you're right, we won't get there fast enough. Brilliant idea, Tina. 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: We'll jump down the garbage chuot and it'll take us 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: straight there. Raccoon, you go first. Now to fold myself 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: in half and fit into the carbet suit. I really 54 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: my soft Oh that's nice, Tina? How nice is this? Am? I? 55 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: Right? 56 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, no time, We got to turn this thing off. 57 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: You have. 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: All right, Let's open up the breaker and see what 59 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: where were you with? Oh? No, that is a lot 60 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: of plugs and wires. 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Recommendation the wrong wire? 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Not good, Tina. Any ideas I got you? Honey? Mama? 63 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: What are you doing here? 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: Well, sweetie, for one, I thought I help you turn 65 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: off the alarm. Trust me, you do not want to 66 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: deal with all that paperwork. 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: You're right about that. 68 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: I just got to pull out the right plug. 69 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: I did not see this coming, Mama. You sure you 70 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: know which one to pull? It's this one, I think. 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Shut down? You did it? Now, give me a second. 72 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: I gotta boot it back up. 73 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: We don't want any and you just getting in here. 74 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: And two days don't stand I can. 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: How on the world did you know how to do that? 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: Honey, I set up the whole security system. 77 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: You did, Yes, you had a lot on your plate 78 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: at the time. 79 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hear way more about that, but 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: right now I'm running a little behind, and I have 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: to track down one of my historians. Of course, I'll 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: see you later, okay, Ma, Bye, Honey. 83 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. Listeners, keep up with me. 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: We're walk running to the library, and while we're on 85 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the move, I need to level with you. 86 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: The good news is that I have a truly sick 87 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: be lined up for today. 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: The slightly less good news is that I really do 89 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: not know much about today's historical figure. I mean, I 90 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 1: know Claudette Covin was a part of the civil rights 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: movement fighting for equal rights for black people in America, 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: but obviously I. 93 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Need more than that. And here we are at the 94 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: gigantic library. Gosh, I love it in here. So now 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: we just need to find Lead so she can give 96 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: us some historical help. That was a weird echo. 97 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: That sounded nothing like me anyway, Like I was saying 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: because I don't have enough info right now. 99 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: I guess you could say I'm stuck. I'm stuck. 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I can't be the only one hearing that bad 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: echo that sounds nothing like my voice. 102 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: Nimini, I'm not an echo, it's me Lee. I'm trapped 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: under a giant book. 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: Whoa look at the giant book. 105 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm coming one, two, three. 106 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: Woo few Oh that is much better, Lee. 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: I know you like to bury your head in a book, 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 2: but that was a bit much. 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: It was actually really informative until the emotional weight of 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: history and the actual weight of that huge book became 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: too much. Anyway, are you ready to immerse yourself in history. 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: As long as you know what mean trapping ourselves under 113 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: that book? 114 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, then step into the history simulator. 115 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: Lee, with respect. 116 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: I wish the history simulator didn't look like a gooey 117 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: alien pod. 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: I'll consider that feedback for my next simulator. 119 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Okay, where are we heading. 120 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: To see a very brave young woman who refuses to 121 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: give up her seat on the bus Claudet Covin. 122 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait wait, I thought that was Rosa Parks. 123 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Rosa Parks refuse to give up per seat, But Claudette 124 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: Colvin did it first. 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's a twist. I had no idea. You know what, 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: before we go. 127 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: Visit Claudette Colvin. Let's bop around a bit. Get the 128 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: full context. 129 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: I like it. 130 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty four. 131 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Here we go, Lee, Are we on a live TV set? 132 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: You bet? We are? Oh cool? Look at those four 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: dudes in suits. 134 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: Those four dudes are the Beatles and this is their 135 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: USA debut on the Ex Sullivan Show. There was so 136 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: much exciting stuff at this time. 137 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Who you gotta warm me when we're taking off? 138 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: Lee? So where are we now? What are all these buttons? Lee? 139 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: I We're on a spaceship, not just any spaceship, the 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: first one to ever land on the moon. 141 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: Actually Houston. 142 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: On a second, it seems a weird alien pond just 143 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 6: appeared on our spaceship. 144 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: Uh Whoopspeed, gotta go, Niminy. We're taking off to March 145 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: twenty fifth, nineteen sixty five. 146 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: What, Lee, This crowd we're in is huge. There must 147 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: be twenty five thousand people, and we appear to be 148 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: marching toward that official looking building. 149 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: Incredible, guest, Nimini, there are twenty five thousand people and 150 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: that building is the Alabama State Capitol in Montgomery. 151 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Hm, why do I feel like we're witnessing one of 152 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: the biggest moments. 153 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: Of activism in the civil rights movement? Because we are. 154 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: You see, four days ago, about three thousand people had 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: gathered in Selma, Alabama, fifty four miles away and began 156 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: the march to the capitol. 157 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: That's a long march. 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: And you're saying most of this crowd joined the march 159 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: along the way. 160 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: For four days, people came out all along the march route, 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: dressed in their Sunday best, to sit on their porches 163 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 3: and wave at the marchers, cheering with support and admiration. 164 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: And at each town more marchers of all agists joined 165 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: the group, waving American flags and making front page headlines 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: in the newspapers. 167 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: And once this huge crowd gets to the capitol, what 168 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: do they do. 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: They're going to deliver a petition signed by black voters 170 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: demanding an end to discriminatory voting registration practices. 171 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Wait, so you mean to tell me that even though 172 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: black people have the right to vote in nineteen sixty four, 173 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: some people would still try to stop them from voting. 174 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: Exactly, many states would use racist strategies like intentionally confusing 175 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: and misleading literacy tests to prevent black voters from successfully registering. 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: That's horrible, it. 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: Was, which is why activists were organizing and fighting to 178 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: draw attention to their cause. 179 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: And luckily this march did just that. 180 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: It did, but even that was a struggle. The first 181 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: two times they attempted a march to Montgomery, they were 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: met with violent resistance from Heckler's and state police. Awful 183 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: images broadcast on black TVs shocked people in households across 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: the country, and even motivated the President to provide US 185 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: Army troops and the Alabama National Guard to protect the 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: marchers on their third attempt. 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like it took so much organizing and fighting. 188 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Is that Martin Luther King Junior giving a speech? 189 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: Indeed it is, Oh, I know this part, oh, and 190 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: it gives me chills every time. This is where doctor 191 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: King says, I come. 192 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: To say to you this afternoon, however difficult the moment, 193 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: however frustrate, in the hour, it will not be long 194 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: because truth crust to earth will rise again. 195 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: How long? Not long, because no lie can live forever. 196 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: How long? Not long? 197 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: Because you shall reap what you sow how long? Not long, 198 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: because the arc of the moral universe is long, but 199 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: it bends toward justice. 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: Imy, you really know that speech? 201 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I have the whole thing memorized. But where does 202 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: Claudette Covin come into this? 203 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,479 Speaker 1: And now did a southern city Liketgomery, Alabama become. 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: The center for the civil rights movement? 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: Phenomenal questions? Let's stay in Montgomery by go back a 206 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: little further and take a look. 207 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I know where we are, but I don't know when 208 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: we are And why are black and white people drinking 209 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: from different wire fountains over there? 210 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: It's nineteen fifty five, ten years before the Voting Rights March, 211 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: a time when people were separated by the color of 212 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: their skin. This is called segregation, and according to a 213 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: set of laws called Jim Crow Laws that have been 214 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: around since the end of the Civil War, it's legal. 215 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: That's about one hundred years of laws invented to make 216 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: life harder for black Americans. There are separate drinking fountains, elevators, 217 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: hospital bathrooms and breakrooms, swimming pools, churches, lunch counters. The 218 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: list goes on and. 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: On and buses. Black Americans were forced to sit in 220 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: the back of buses. 221 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: And in Montgomery, forty thousand black residents ride the buses. 222 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: That's seventy five percent of the total riders in the city. 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: And yet they are legally forced to enter through the 224 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: overcrowded back door of the bus, sit in the back seats, 225 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: and give up their seats for any white passengers who 226 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: want to sit down. 227 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: But if we're in nineteen fifty five, didn't the federal 228 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: government at least order schools to be integrated in nineteen 229 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: fifty four? 230 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 6: Everyone should be allowed to go to school together. Right, Absolutely, 231 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 6: that's what the law said. But the reality in Montgomery 232 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 6: and almost everywhere in the South is that some white 233 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 6: people were still fighting to keep people apart, and the 234 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 6: schools Black children are forced to attend are almost always 235 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 6: the least funded, with the poorest quality supplies, books, and classrooms. 236 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: How are those kids supposed to learn? 237 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: Luckily, there's an organization called the n double ACP, the 238 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The branch 239 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: here in Montgomery was the first in all of Alabama 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: and was founded way back in nineteen thirteen. 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Cool I know about the NUBLEACP. 242 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Their goal is to educate and organize folks in the 243 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: community to fight back against segregation and other types of 244 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: discrimination so that black people can get the respect and 245 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: opportunities they deserve. 246 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: Precisely and recognizing the needs of black children in Montgomery, 247 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: the n DOUBLEACP started a youth group and guess who 248 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: they put in charge of shaping young minds Rosa Parks. 249 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: That's right, And what's really wild is that the thing 250 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: Rosa Parks is most famous for was actually done by 251 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: a fifteen year old girl from her youth group, Claude Covin. 252 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: Haha, bingo, Wow, it's all coming together. But Lee, why 253 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: didn't quant At Covin get to be as famous as 254 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Rosa Parks. 255 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, even though she was the first to do it, 256 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: the movement knew that she was super young and had 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: other things going on like being the kid. So the 258 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: movement chose to set up Rosa Parks to be nationally 259 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: recognized for protesting on a bus. 260 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: I truly had no idea about all that behind the 261 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: scenes stuff that made the civil rights movement possible. 262 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, even though Rosa Parks famous protests seems spontaneous, everything 263 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: was meticulously planned. Same with the March to Montgomery. It 264 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: took several tries and a ton of organization. 265 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lee, that was incredibly helpful. I think I 266 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: have enough information now for the song. Will you take 267 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: us back to my top secret bunker. 268 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: Of course. 269 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: We're back. 270 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: Yes. 271 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh, and I'm late for a recording session, but luckily 272 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I brought my skateboard, helmet and he pads and am 273 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: ready to roll finally. 274 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 275 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, listeners, keep up. We are once again on the move, 276 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: right down instead of stairs. 277 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, still got it. And here we are. Oh look, 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: the musicians are ready to go. 279 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Time to make another epic shining song for the ages, 280 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and this. 281 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Time nemonies on the Mic Claude debt. 282 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: That's my name, Miss Alabama. Born and raised this Montgomery 283 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: to be specific. Hope you don't mind these on the 284 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: risks zero nine, zero five thirty nine the birth date 285 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: of a future leader, civil rights activistic catalyst to be 286 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: Montgomery bus Boycott. 287 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: Again with me, Montgomery Bus Boycott. 288 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: That is correct. 289 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know about the juicy tidbit. 290 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Couldn't be the face of the movement because I wasn't 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: really because of my complexion. I'm never in the press. 292 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: Just think I was only fifteen, followed with my routine and. 293 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: A segregatd Teen years after that of curves, I could 294 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: have find work, and I moved to. 295 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: New York and you got in to nurse. It began women. 296 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: Nine before Rosa, there was Claude Gorman, and it began woman. 297 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Did you know. 298 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine months before Rosa, 299 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: he was Claude Gorman. Let me start from the beginning. 300 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: My dad left Mama's wallet. Was thim mean? 301 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: See, I was born Claude Dad Austin. Then I went 302 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: to live with my uncle and my aunt, and that's 303 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: how I got the name. 304 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: Calvin. Had a little sister e. I was like, oh 305 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: this lost her to poly yoga. 306 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I only knows my pain. I was so to yo 307 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: logically strange. Looking to Washington High School. I started going 308 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: there in nineteen fifty two. I was in the city, 309 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: a place I couldn't want to so ride in the 310 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: buses what I had to do. It was nineteen fifty five. 311 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I didn't give up my seat. They called the police 312 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: and they arrested in me. But I had been learning 313 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: that by my ancestry. And then the youth come up 314 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: with inaa Steve pay So what said, I know my 315 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: constitutional race. 316 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: There was an empty roberside and he said, this isn't right, 317 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: Jim Cross. 318 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: The black kids sent across from the white we always 319 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: got to be behind them. And this said, I'm like, 320 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: put me off the plus. I didn't fight work bus. 321 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: I didn't feel fear because I was young and tough. 322 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: To put me in an adult fell with no phone call. 323 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: But my friends went to find my mom. 324 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: And it began with me now before there was clad Covin, 325 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: And it begin with me, did you know? 326 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Did you know? 327 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give up my seat? Now before. 328 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: One year later, we had brought a versus gil I 329 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: was one of five plaintifs talking about how the law 330 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: had failed by the bust and we wasn't gonna take 331 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: in the federal court. They made that decision the Supreme Court. 332 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: They made that decision that the bus segregation was against 333 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: the constitution. 334 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: And they ended up permanent lead. And it began with me, 335 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Nina before there was Clade Corvin. And it begin with me, 336 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: did you know, didn't know? 337 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't give up? 338 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: That's my name, this Alabama born people minds Again with me, Oh, 339 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: I almost forgot. 340 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: The city of Montgomery, Alabama, declared, Mark second Claudette Colvin day. 341 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a few words for the 342 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: grown ups. Wow, that was incredible, and while. 343 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: The circumstances couldn't be more different, it's really got me 344 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: thinking about my own life. 345 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: Funny how history can inform the present. Hot listeners. Hey, Danna, 346 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: do you know where my mom is? Ah? Of course, 347 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: the personal history room. Where else would she be? 348 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Yes, Tina, I know we have an interview lined up 349 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: in five minutes, but I've got to do something first. 350 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: Now do you mind if I borrow your scooter? Thanks? Tina? Right? 351 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: What apo set of sticks? 352 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 3: Oh? 353 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Still good? And here we are. Hi mom, Hey, sweetheart, 354 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: what you're doing in here? 355 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: Just looking at old pictures? 356 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Look at this one? Oh it's me as a teenager. 357 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: Honey, that's a picture of me. 358 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: Wow, we really do look alike. Huh strong jeans baby. 359 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, Mama, I wanted to ask more about you setting 360 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: up the security system. 361 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: I still can't believe you did that. 362 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: Well, get in a top secret bunker up and running 363 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: is no small test, and I was thrilled to be 364 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: able to pitch in, so I pulled some permits, get 365 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: the security system Paratina and the other raccoons and tell 366 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: them how to use all the sound equipment. 367 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: Just some behind the scene details. You low key paved 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: the way for my dream. 369 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 4: You're not the first person in this family to love 370 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: history and hip hop, and I thought your idea to 371 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: combine them was genius. 372 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: I had no idea. You did so much to make 373 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: this happen. 374 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: In my experience, whenever something big happens, it takes a 375 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: lot of people to pull it off. 376 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: I'm learning that, yeah, and not everyone can be the 377 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: face of a movement. Some people have to set up 378 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: the security system. 379 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: Thanks Mom, I love you and I really appreciate your support. 380 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: I love you too. Oh look my old roller blades pow. 381 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Use those to get to the interview. Don't forget your 382 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: helmet here great call. 383 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Okay, listeners, it's time to go meet two totally extraordinary people. 384 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Down the hall and left and avoid the stairs this 385 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: time by using the elevator. Not sure what I didn't 386 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: take the elevator before, but you know, you'll have a 387 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: new arn. And speaking of warning, we have arrived at 388 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the room where I have video calls. Today we're meeting 389 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: two incredible people. Hi, Roxanne and Stella, can you kick 390 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: things off by introducing yourselves. 391 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: My name is Roxanne Gay. I'm a space cowboy and 392 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 5: I'm skidding. My name is Roxanne Gay. I am a writer, 393 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: a teacher, and an editor. 394 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 7: My name is Stella Carolina and I am six years old. 395 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 7: My favorite sing in life is TV. 396 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: Hi, Notxane. 397 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Hi, Stella, Stella, what were you hoping to learn from 398 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Roxanne about Claudette Colvin? 399 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 7: Why do kids learn about Roseparks but not Claudette Colvin. 400 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: That's a great question, Stella. You know there are a 401 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 5: couple of reasons. One, when Claudette Colvin refused to give 402 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 5: up to her seat to a white woman, she was 403 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 5: a teenager and at the time, and quite frankly, even now, 404 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: people don't always take kids seriously. So Rosa Parks when 405 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 5: she refused to give up her seat, she was older, 406 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: she was a professional, she had, you know, the right 407 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 5: skin tone, she had the right kind of hair, and 408 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: so leaders of the civil rights movement thought that Rosa 409 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: Parks might be a better person to represent the entire movement. 410 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 5: But you know that doesn't take away from what Claudette 411 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: Colvin did. 412 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 7: How much has changed with civil rights since Claudet Colvin 413 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 7: were the key. 414 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: When Claudette Colvin first refused to give up her seat 415 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: on that bus in Alabama, things were really different. And 416 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 5: we still deal with racism and other forms of bigotry now, 417 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 5: but most of the laws that made it possible for 418 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: Claudette Covin to be arrested no longer exist. We no 419 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: longer live ideally in a segregated society. Everyone gets to 420 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 5: live together and share our communities together. We are more 421 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: able to point out injustice when we see it. And 422 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, cell phone cameras have done an 423 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: incredible amount of good because now we can provide evidence 424 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: of the issues that we deal with, particularly with police 425 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 5: and other sort of forms of public racism that we 426 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 5: see on a day to day basis. So things are 427 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: getting better, but we shouldn't get comfortable because we have 428 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: so much left to do, Like how much to do? 429 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: You know? 430 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 5: I think about that every single day. Every single day 431 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: I wonder like, hmm, is this something we're going to 432 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: solve in my lifetime? I will say that we have 433 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: to continue to fight for civil rights until lawmakers can 434 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: no longer decide which rights we're allowed to have and 435 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: so right now we have quite a ways left to go, 436 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: but at least we know where we're headed. 437 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: Stella, do you have any questions for Roxanne about her 438 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: work or career? 439 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 7: Are you Roxton part of making change now? 440 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: Well, one of the key things I try to do 441 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 5: in my work is to talk about the issues that 442 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 5: I find to be most pressing in ways that everyone 443 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: will be able to connect to. And I always try 444 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: to bring attention to the people who are taking the 445 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: really big risks by protesting and sometimes even having to 446 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: engage with law enforcement and doing some of the really 447 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: challenging things that can come along with living the life 448 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: of an activist. 449 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 7: How can I be an activist? 450 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: You know? 451 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: One of the best ways that you can be an activist, 452 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 5: especially at your age, is to pay attention to the 453 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: news and ask questions about the world and the people 454 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 5: that we elect as our leaders and the issues that 455 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 5: we should all be caring about. 456 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: Wow, does this mean that anyone can be an activist? 457 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 5: Anyone can be an activist? All you have to do 458 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: is care about yourself and other people and the world 459 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: that we live in. If you do that, you are 460 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 5: already well on your way to being an activist. 461 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 7: I already do that, yes see. 462 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: I mean look at you. You're an activist already, and 463 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: I think that's amazing. I think more people should be 464 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 5: willing to be an activist because there are a lot 465 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 5: of problems in this world and it's going to take 466 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 5: all of us to solve them. 467 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: This husband so great. Thank you both for being here. 468 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 7: Thank you for answering oh my question. 469 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 5: Well, thank you for asking the questions. It's been just 470 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 5: the highlight of my day talking to you, Stella. 471 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: Listeners. 472 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining in today and for going on a 473 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: journey with me to learn about the great Claudet Colvin. 474 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: And a giant. Thank you to today's guests Stella and 475 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Rock sand Ge. Remember, parents and teachers. 476 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: You can download a free activity related to today's episode 477 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: by visiting story pirates dot com slash Historical Records. We'll 478 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: be back next week to make another historical record. Until then, 479 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: remember to make history, you gotta make some noise. 480 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Bye. 481 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 8: Historical Records is produced in partnership with story Pirate Studios, 482 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 8: Questlove's two one five Entertainment, John Glickman and iHeart Podcasts. 483 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 8: Executive produced by Emir Questlove, Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree 484 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 8: and Benjamin Salka. Executive produced for iHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown. 485 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 8: Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sambart, Eric Gerson, 486 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 8: Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and niminy Ware. Producers 487 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 8: for two one five are Sean G. Britney, Benjamin and 488 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 8: Sarah Zolman. Hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer is 489 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 8: Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus. 490 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 8: Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Ellie. Scoring 491 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 8: and music supervision for Story Pired Studios by Eric Erson. 492 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 8: Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic 493 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 8: Room in New York City. Song mastering by Josh Hahn. 494 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 8: Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced 495 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 8: by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Riccio. Production management 496 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 8: by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pired Studios 497 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 8: is Glennis Brawlt. Pr for Story Pired Studios is provided 498 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 8: by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode 499 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 8: was written by Duke Doyle. The song Claude at Colvin 500 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 8: was written by Niminiware and produced by Stro Elliott with 501 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 8: additional production by Eric Gerson. Special guests Rock Sande Gay 502 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 8: and kid interviewer Stella. This episode features performances by Barbara Currin, 503 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 8: Tessa Hirsch, Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and Lee Polos. Special 504 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 8: thanks j T. 505 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Sue Ca