1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Weston had Kowitz, for coming to you 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: hear from our studios at lambeau Field West. The NFL 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Draft is just two days away, the first round just 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: two days away at the time that we are taping this. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: How does that that hype song go? Y'all ready for this? 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Like that? Right? I mean, here we go? Right? The 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Packers enter the this three day drafting extravaganza with eleven picks, 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: and the eyes are really on the top of this 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: draft for the Packers because Green Bay, as a result 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: of the Davante Adams trade to the Raiders. The Packers 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: have two first round picks two second round picks. The 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: numbers are two and twenty eight in the first round, 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: fifty three and fifty nine in the second round. Um, 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: this could be a draft unlike one we have seen 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: in Green Bay for quite some time. My friend, March eighteen, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two, I was walking into Barnes and 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: Nobles somewhere in Green Bay. I assume you were getting 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: a foot massage. That's when the reports came out that 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Davante Adams was going to be traded. And and here's 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the thing, Michael, since that moment and since the time 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: in which it was made official, I might have botched 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: it. It It might have been March eighteenth that it was 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: actually made official. March seventeenth report came out. Since the 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: time that that was made official, the question has been, so, 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: what are the Packers going to do in this draft? 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: They have four picks in the top fifty nine, the 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: first time since the merger that that's ever happened. If 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: they end up picking in those spots, they have obvious 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: needs at multiple positions, but maybe not so much so 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: that it's like, Okay, well they have to take a 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: certain player at this spot. But there's so many areas 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: that have made this a compelling draft, from the proce 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: specs involved, to the fact that it's been twenty years 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: since the Packers have drafted receiver since their in the 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: first round, the fact they have guys replaced on the 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: offensive line the defensive line, and that has created this 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: cloud of really questions that we've been seeing an insider 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: inbox that we've seen on Twitter, and everybody has had 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: an opinion on what the Packers should do. Well, Michael, 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: in two days time, at the time in which we're 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: taping this, we will finally get some answers. Yeah. Well, 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: it's interesting you go back to that, to the moment 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: that Davante Adams was traded and at that time, and 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: this is interesting when you talk about exactly what are 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the Packers needs? Right, because at the time that Adams 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: was traded, if you had said, okay, what are what 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: are the Packers biggest needs in this draft, everybody would 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: have said, obviously wide receiver on the offensive side and 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: defensive line. Right. But then, in as we talked about 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: on our last show, in classic typical Brian Gudacount's fashion, 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: what does he do between the start of free agency 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: and the draft. He signs Jared need a veteran to 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: come in on the defensive line. He signed Sammy Watkins, 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: a veteran to come in and help out at wide receiver, 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: putting him in a position with all this draft capital 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft, putting him in a 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: position where he doesn't have to say, all right, on 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night, I have to get a receiver. I have 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: to get a defensive lineman. Because, as we mentioned on 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: our last show, if the Packers had to play a 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: game on May one, they have the players to go 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: and play the game, right He, Brian Gudukins is always 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: going to make the draft about the future investment, not 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: necessarily here. He doesn't force himself into pain himself into 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: the corner, so to speak, of the draft having to 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: be about the here and now and about week one 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: of the upcoming season. So that's where we are. When 70 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: I look at when I look at the Packers and 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: roster needs in this draft, I break them down into 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: into sort of two tiers. To me, the top tier 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: is it's still wide receiver and defensive line, I think, 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: but also offensive tackle and then edge rusher. Offensive tackle. If, 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: as we talked about previously, if the Packers going with 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: David Bactieri at left tackle, Yash and I'm in at 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: right tackle, You're still gonna need somebody to back up 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: those spots. You want to have a young, developing player 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: who could fill in if if injuries were to strike again. 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: Edge rusher, the Packers have Rashaan Gary and Preston Smith, 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: but who do they have after that? There are a 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of question marks, a lot of unproven players. Maybe 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: you draft, uh, you know, invest a high, high pick 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: in this draft to fortify the edge rusher position. So 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: those are the four spots for me that are that 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: are sort of like the tier one of the roster needs. 87 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: But then also safety, cornerback, inside linebacker, tight end. I 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: think all of those are also in play for the Packers, 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily in the first round, but certainly come 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: Friday nights starting in the second round, I think those 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: those positions coming to play. My point is that the 92 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: way this sets up for Brian gutacoons at this point 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: with the four picks in the top sixty, they're aside 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: from taking a quarterback or running back or a specialist, 95 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: no position drafted within those top four picks that he 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: has would necessarily surprise me based on how the Packers 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: are currently constructed, because I think what you outline there 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: is the fact that Green Bay has a certain amount 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: of needs that I think a lot of that was 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: brought on by the changes this offseason. Davante Adams trade, 101 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: so Darius Smith being released, um not having another guy 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: and another Shawn Gary kind of hand picked in that 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: role behind Billy Turner being released. Right, So I mean 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: like there there are areas where they lost, but by 105 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: and large, they have depth at all these positions. The 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: way that this roster is fortified, there are bodies at 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: all these positions. Cornerback, you have a you have three 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: guys you put up probably against anybody's safety. Adrian Amos 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage are going to be together for their fourth 110 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: straighte year. That rarely happens in the NFL. So from 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: that perspective, it is about building depth. But what makes 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: it so compelling is the fact that there are five 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: picks in the first two days that Green Bay is 114 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: slated to make. Right now, there are four picks in 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the top fifty nine that they are slated to make. 116 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: And we saw what happened in two thousand nineteen when 117 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay had two picks, and the what you know, 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the ways in which Brian Goodukins can move around. Depending 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: on how the board falls, somebody's going to fall, Mike, 120 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: one of these receivers, maybe one of the edge rushers, 121 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: maybe a safety we've even seen, you know, maybe an 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, maybe even a defensive lineman. Just because you 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: just don't know that this this draft feels as unpredictable 124 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: as any that we've entered in a long time. And 125 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: it's not because well, that player isn't good enough. It's 126 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: because I think there really is a wide array of 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: talent that's all kind of pretty much the same outside 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: of that top six or seven players. The real question 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: also becomes how many quarterbacks get taken before the Packers 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: go on the board at twenty two. There aren't going 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: to be as many as these past few years, but 132 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: those quarterback spots ultimately are the ones that end up 133 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: leading to a skill position player falling or a defensive 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: lineman falling again, enhancing the options for the Packers once 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: they go on the board. Yeah, well in talking about 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: some of these some of these positions of need, and 137 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: we will just have to see how the draft falls. 138 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: And also with regard to Gouda, Counston has options with 139 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: the draft capital that he has. I mean, he could 140 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: move up, he could move down, he could do both 141 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: within both Thursday night and Friday night. There's no way 142 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: of knowing exactly how this is going to go. But 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: with regard to the wide receiver position, that's the one 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about. Is there a guy or 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: guys that that might have struck your fancy here as 146 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: as this draft has gotten close. The cool thing is Mike. 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: The more you dive into it, the more you like 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: basically all these options in the top fifty, um because 149 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: every single one of them offers something different. If you 150 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: want a six foot guy like Chris Lave that isn't 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: your typical type of receiver that Green Bay has drafted, 152 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: or you know Christian Watson, you know, you have the 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: George Pickens kid that you know everyone knows about guys 154 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: that have a little bit more size. You're the one, 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: and I've joked about it, but it's actually true. You're 156 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: the one that drove the Traylon Burkes you know train 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and that whistle caught my attention to because the more 158 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: you see this kid and the more you realize what 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: he did at Arkansas and how they turn things around 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: this season, he seems more and more to me like 161 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packer type player. The question is whether 162 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: or not he's there at twenty two. And the thing 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: that that that's gonna have to get decided before the 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Packers probably even remotely on near the clock, is Jamison 165 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Williams is a team willing to take him with the 166 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: A C. L. Concerns, does he go tend you know, 167 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: as some people have mocked him to the Jets. Yeah. 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because because when when he toward the A 169 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: c L in the National Championship Game and in the 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: early stages after that, it was like, oh, maybe Jamison Williams, 171 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, will be there at the top of the 172 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: second round for somebody you know, And then then it 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, yeah, these teams at the bottom 174 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of the first round. You know, the Packers have these 175 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: two picks, they have a need at wide receiver. Maybe 176 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: they would take Jamison Williams, even though he wouldn't obviously 177 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: be ready to go right away as a rookie. The 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: more time has gone on, the more Jamison Williams has 179 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: climbed up to the spot, or at least much closer 180 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: to the spot in the draft where he would where 181 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: he would be getting picked if he had never gotten hurt. Um. 182 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: I think the only the question is he's probably not 183 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: going to be the first receiver off the board, which 184 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: he most likely would be if he hadn't gotten hurt. 185 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: But it sure doesn't sound like he's going to last 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: much past the maybe the four or fifte pick or something. 187 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Like that, whereas a couple of months ago there was 188 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: there there was a whole different narrative with regard to 189 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: where Jamison Williams might available. So the question natually becomes 190 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: where is Williams fall. I think Drake, London and Wilson 191 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: will both be off the board by they get to 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: that point. I just feel the reason I bring up 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: Williams is I feel like that's gonna be the one 194 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: that really decides how far Burke's falls, because I think 195 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: once that that wage starts with the receivers, I think 196 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that's going to carry through a little bit um and 197 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: then you look a little bit farther down. I really 198 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: love the sky More kid, in addition to having a 199 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: fantastic name. You know, there's some questions about with him 200 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: and Watson, the competition uh involved in that, but but 201 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: certainly I think he's another guy doesn't have the traditional 202 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: size Green Bay looks for. But I just I love 203 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: the way he performed. They've had success in the past, 204 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: obviously with Western Michigan recruits. And then I just got 205 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: to give the shout out to the kid Alec Pierce 206 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. He's probably gonna end up being a date 207 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: two three ish type pick out of Cincinnati, but one 208 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: he has the common bond there with Matt Lafleur. There's 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: a lot of connections on that Cincinnati staff to La Floor. 210 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: They've already dipped into that well before with Josidae Iguara. 211 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: But the kid loves the Packers, So I mean, you 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: can't ever go wrong with the guy that you know. 213 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: I think he grew up in whatever it was, Illinois, 214 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: but yet we grew up a Packers fan. Just a 215 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: remarkable backstory edition to the fact that he has some 216 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: of those type of attributes that Green Bay likes. Yeah, 217 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: it's interesting for for those who have been following the 218 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: ore Our Prospect Primer series that we've been doing for 219 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: the for the past month on the website and obviously 220 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: and if you've been following inbox. I've said, and I'm 221 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: not saying this as a as a scout, as a 222 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: talent evaluator. I'm just talking as the as as the 223 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: the interested observer, right who looks into these things a 224 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: little bit. The two receivers in this draft that for 225 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they they've struck my fancy. As I like 226 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to say, our Traylon Burks from Arkansas and Christian Watson 227 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State. I just I I like the 228 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: bigger receivers. Burks is six to two twenty five, Yet 229 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: at two twenty five he ran a four five five 230 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: in the forty. Now, yes, he's not a four three 231 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: burner like a crystal lava or a gar. That's not 232 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: the way they build things here either over there, right, 233 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: But but at tuner in twenty five pounds of four 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: or five five is not exactly slow. Christian Watson six pounds, Now, 235 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: he did run in the four threes, So this is 236 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: a This is a taller guy, rangier guy, who also 237 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: does have the speed. What I'm what what I'm curious 238 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: about though, as you mentioned with Burke's will he be 239 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: there at twenty two or is he going to go 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: sooner than that? Um? I think that could that could 241 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: certainly go either way. With Watson, I start to wonder 242 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: the more I read about it, is is drafting him 243 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: in the first round a little bit too rich? But 244 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: then with the packers not picking until fifty three fifty 245 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: nine in the second round, is he going to be 246 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: there at the end of the second round? I think 247 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: that becomes a big question mark, UM, Because it's because 248 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: it seems that he's maybe a bottom of the first 249 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: round guy, but more likely a top half of the 250 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: second round guy. And then he's not there, uh in 251 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the fifties. If the packers are waiting for him to 252 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: drop that, do you know who? He reminds me of? 253 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Not not from a makeup standpoint, This reminds me of 254 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, because if if they get a two or 255 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: twenty eight, I'm not saying he's gonna I think he's 256 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a good pro. But you wonder about the 257 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: value the packers had with those two second round picks. 258 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean with the math I was doing with all 259 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: these picks they have Brian Goodkin's depending regardless of what 260 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: happens on on Thursday night, he can do anything he 261 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: wants in the second round. They can go up into 262 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: the top three of the second round if they want to. 263 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: With with pairing up some of these picks, That's where 264 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: it gets interesting with me with Watson. If that's a 265 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: guy that you can take at thirty five or thirty six, 266 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: I really like that value. And and it's not to 267 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: take anything away n D s U is one of 268 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: the pre eminent powers in that division of football. They've 269 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: won how many national championships over the last twenty years. 270 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: But that's the only thing holding me back from it. 271 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: It's just this game is different, and in playing at 272 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: that level and creating separation is different. It's when you 273 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: have options like Burke's, when you have options like Pickings. 274 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: These guys have played in the SEC. They've seen the 275 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: very best that college football has to offer. That's why 276 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: to me, a lot of dbs who are going to 277 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: have their names called this weekend. Yeah, no, I hear you. 278 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: I I hear exactly. I love him too. He has everything. 279 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: He's how you draw it up if you're creating a 280 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: player on Madden. He has everything you wanted a receiver. 281 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: It's funny, though, that you had mentioned You mentioned Jordy 282 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Nelson pick thirty six from two thousand eight, and it's 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: funny that you had mentioned that because for all this 284 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: talk about, are are the Packers going to draft a 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round for the first time 286 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: since two thousand and two with Javon Walker. Packers have 287 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: had such a great track record of success with second 288 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: round draft picks Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Greg Jennings Randall 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: cob Right who was the highest. The highest pick of 290 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: those second rounders was Jordy Nelson at thirty six and 291 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: almost the I don't know whether you'd want to call 292 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: it the big coincidence or the big irony or whatever, 293 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: but if Brian Goodakun's trades to the thirty six spot 294 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: to take a wide receiver, that would that would almost 295 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: like put a bow on this entire discussion we've been 296 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: having UM for the entire offseason. UM. 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UM, because uh, 308 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I know in discussions that we've had a guy that 309 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: I really like on the defensive line, though again I 310 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be there. Is Devonte 311 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: Wyatt from Georgia. There are these, you know, three guys 312 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: on that defensive front from Georgia. Trayvon Walker's being talked 313 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: about is possibly the number one overall pick now ahead 314 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: of both Thibodeaux and Hutchinson, the the the edge rushers 315 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: from Oregon and Chigin respectively. So Trayvon Walker mic go 316 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: number one. There's Jordan Davis, the three forty pound you know, 317 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: run stuffing nose tackle who ran a sub four eight 318 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: forty at three forty pounds at the combine, which was 319 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: which was stunning, but with whyatt, Why it's three hundred 320 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: four pounds. He's not a small guy, and yet his 321 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: forty time was very similar to Jordan Davis. Now, running 322 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: a four seven seven forty three four pounds is no 323 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: is no easy trick. So he's a guy that I've 324 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: had that I've had my eye on, But again, will 325 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: he be there at at twenty two for the packers 326 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: to be able to jump on him. I don't know 327 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: another one that I did a prospect primer on Travis 328 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: Jones from Yukon UM six ft four three pounds. You know, 329 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: you kon again. There's that competition level and this is 330 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: a guy that's maybe being talked about more in the 331 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: second round. But will he last all the way towards 332 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: the end of the second round. It's really hard to say. 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: But yet at the Senior Bowl, the offensive lineman at 334 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl voted him the toughest guy that they 335 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: faced in the drills all week long. So that says 336 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: something about, you know, the the pedigree that he has, 337 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: even with all the questions about I'm coming from Yukon 338 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to a Power five conference. So those two guys, 339 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Davante Wyatt Travis Jones, those are those are two that 340 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I have my eye on on the defensive. It's actually 341 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: Travis Jones is the one that started to make me 342 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: look more into the defensive line and kind of shifted 343 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: my thought to that seems like that's a position they 344 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: could potentially take on Day two. That's a position that 345 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe in the second round. And trust me, man, the 346 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: every position is a gamble. It's a big gamble. Once 347 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: you start to move back on defensive lineman because you're 348 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: you're starting to lose some of the attributes that you're 349 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: you're looking for in three down players, you're Kenny Clarks 350 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: of the world. That's why, in my mind, I mean, 351 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis won't be there, so it really has centered 352 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: on Wyatt and if why it is there at two 353 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: or twenty eight, if they want to take him there, 354 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: I see a out of those carryover type attributes with 355 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Wyatt that we saw in Kenny Clark in six team. Yeah, 356 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of That's kind of where I am 357 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: in the transition that they've made during that time with 358 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: their defensive lineman. He seems to fit the bill a 359 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: little bit more for what Green Bay is looking for. 360 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: If why it's there, I like that pick, I like 361 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: his pedigree, I like what they've accomplished at Georgia last year. 362 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: And then if he's not, then I mean there's right 363 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: now what Mike CBS Sports has eight nine different guys 364 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: that can be on day two at that position. Looking 365 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: at edge is where I fell in love with George 366 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Carl loft Is And you've been talking about the Purdue, 367 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: the Purdue edge rusher for a while now. I've missed 368 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: on some of these guys, these guys that have unique 369 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: back stories on the defensive line. I mean it's not 370 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: it's not always cut and dry here. You're taking a 371 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a risk um with Karl Loftus and 372 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: what he's going to be able to provide at the 373 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: next level. Certainly, you were the first one to point 374 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: out to me last year at Purdue. Once the adjustments 375 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: were made, then his production kind of depth a little bit, 376 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: once teams started ice sewing on him a little bit. 377 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: But what do we always talk about. We talked about 378 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: when you're at the end of the first round, you 379 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: are looking for eight to ten year NFL football players 380 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: with a Pro Bowl type ceiling, but maybe not guaranteed. 381 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Karl Offtis checks that box for me, because as much 382 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: as you want Preston Smith to play of the snaps 383 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: and as much as I thought Russian Gary last year 384 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: showed that he can handle a full starting complement of reps, 385 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: they need someone to bround out that rotation. Yeah, and 386 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Karl loftis the first report I read on him. I 387 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: wish I could remember who did it, because it was 388 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: a great scouting report. They drew the comparison to Ryan 389 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: care again, and I see that in him. You wish 390 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: he was just maybe an inch or two taller. You 391 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: wish he had maybe a year or two more experience 392 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: on a playing defense. You know, he's a guy that 393 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: came over with his mom, his dad passes away, um 394 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and and starts playing football at a late age. But 395 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: my goodness, when you turn on the film of him 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: at Purdue, and you and I even talked about it, 397 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: how often has there been an elite Perdue edge rusher 398 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: that we can recall there? There haven't been a lot 399 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: of them. There's just some much to like about the kid, 400 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and the Packers do have indeed there at edge rushing 401 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: to me now that Jared Reid is in a Packers uniform, 402 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: maybe even more so than on the defensive. Yeah, and 403 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: when you look at when when you look at the 404 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: film on Karl loftus as much as you know, um, 405 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: as you mentioned in our previous discussion about how yes, 406 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: his production dropped off his his last year at Perdue, 407 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: but the guy was I mean, the guy was double 408 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: teamed and triple team because because he was the one 409 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: guy on the Purdue defense that everybody game plan for. 410 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: And let's be honest, it was the Purdue defense. There 411 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: wasn't There wasn't a whole lot for uh for other 412 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Big ten offenses to have to worry about. And yet 413 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: in the midst of all that, George Karloftus was still 414 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: a high impact player because of the way teams had 415 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: to try to deal with him. And and that's what's 416 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: on the film, and that's why even though he didn't 417 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: have that final year in college with fifteen seventeen sacks 418 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: or whatever, that he's still being talked about very much 419 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: as a first round pick and a guy that again 420 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: I've seen projections where maybe he goes in the top fifteen, 421 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: other projections where he's there not only at twenty two, 422 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: but maybe even at twenty eight towards the end of 423 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: the first round, if the if the Packers are so 424 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: inclined in that respect. Another guy similarly that I've seen 425 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: projected kind of all over the board, a little bit 426 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: higher maybe than karl Loftus. But when I started doing 427 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: the prospect primers and looking at guys who back in March, 428 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: we're being projected as as back half of the first round. 429 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson, the edge rusher from Florida State, it was 430 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: there were there were all sorts of places where he 431 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: was being slotted anywhere from you know, sixteen down to 432 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty seven something like that. But now, 433 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, as we've gotten closer to the draft, 434 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: it seems like Jermaine Johnson is being talked about more 435 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: as as a top fifteen, if not even a top 436 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: twelve pick in this draft. And as much as I 437 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: think Brian Goodkin certainly has the ability to move around 438 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: and to move up if he wants to, I'm not 439 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: sure if I see Gouda Kun's if he does make 440 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: a move up in the first round, I'm not sure 441 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: if I see him making a move up, say into 442 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: the top twelve. Like to me, the the first dozen picks, 443 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: I think you're going to go by, and I don't 444 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: really see the packers getting all that involved. But once 445 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: you get to pick like thirteen or fourteen or fifteen, 446 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: if Goodakoons has his eye on somebody who's still there, 447 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: who's not picked in the in the top twelve, that's 448 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: where I could see the phones really start to buzz 449 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: and and say, hey, okay, what's what's it going to cost? 450 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: What's it worth? Too? To go up and get this guy. 451 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that they would make that move 452 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: for Jermaine Johnson. It could be for a wide receiver, 453 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: it could be for a defensive lineman whatever. But um, 454 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: but again, it's it's a position that the Packers have 455 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: to start not only having that rotation as you mentioned, 456 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: for now, but also looking toward uh, looking toward the future. 457 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: You'd love to get the next Rashaan Gary in this 458 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: draft if you can, right yea. And I think the 459 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: point you're aching there that I think is really astute 460 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: is that that's where it's gonna get really interesting. Of 461 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: what's on the board at fifteen sixteen. The spots where 462 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: it's not going to take a lot to potentially move 463 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: up were compared to, you know, trying to get into 464 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: the top twelve. Right where where where if good Kuntz 465 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: wants to move up, he doesn't have to give up 466 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: the second first round pick. It's more of like, Okay, 467 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trade one of the second rounders to move 468 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: up a half dozen spots or something like that. And 469 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Johnson's a guy, Mike, I completely wrote him off in 470 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: terms of what we were looking at as far as 471 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: the Packers potentially you know, uh, drafting just because I 472 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be there, and he may not. He 473 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: may not even be anywhere close to twenty two, but 474 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: a CC defensive Player of the Year, you know, twelve 475 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: sacks last season. Kid was born. You know, he's born 476 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: from Minnesota. I mean eat in prayer, I mean he's 477 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: he has the local ties there too. Uh. And that's 478 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: where this is going to get interesting, because now the 479 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Packers have to start weighing guys that could be a 480 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: Rashawn Gary where it's like he may not start right away, 481 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: he may not play five snaps right away, but look 482 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: at what that investment in Gary three years ago has 483 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: done for them now with having to move on from 484 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith because of the back and the money, and 485 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: now you have a guy that I think you feel 486 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: really good about going into the season with compared to Okay, 487 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: we need to have a receiver in this room. That's 488 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: where the questions start to come up a little bit. Yeah, 489 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: the other one I think at edge rusher. That's going 490 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what happens. Um is Uh 491 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: is David O. Jbo If I'm saying the last name correctly. 492 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: The guy from Michigan who unfortunately blew out his achilles 493 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: on Michigan's pro day, and that's obviously, you know, going 494 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: to damage his draft stock. But then the question is 495 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: how far how far does he fall? Um? You know, 496 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: maybe somebody still takes him late in the first round, 497 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: maybe he's still there all the way late in the 498 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: second round, where the Packers would go, Okay, yeah, we're 499 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: not going to be able to expect much because of 500 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: that injury, you know here as a rookie. But um, 501 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, but is this guy worth Um? You know 502 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: that it's it's it's not quite the same injury situation 503 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: as Jamison Williams, that wide receiver that we talked about, 504 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: but yet there's some similarity in that there's just there's 505 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: so much uncertainty as too, as to how teams are 506 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: going to value a player like that that if if 507 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: there were a completely clean bill of health, you know, 508 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the players being valued here, But because of the health questions, 509 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: there are all sorts of different opinions as to as 510 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: to exactly what it's worth in this draft to to 511 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: to get that. And so many times, Mike, it really 512 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: does seem like when you have an elite prospect that 513 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: is coming off a devastating injury, more often than not, 514 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: they're able to make it back. I think back to 515 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: Miles Jack you know, with Jacksonville number of years ago, 516 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: where people are like, you know, they weren't sure if 517 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: this kid's gonna be able to play in the NFL 518 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: based on that injury he had, and then there he was. 519 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Jalen Smith went through that, Willis mcgahey 520 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: at the running back position. Those things do happen. The 521 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: thing that's different about this young man that I feel 522 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: for him is the pro day aspect of it. You're 523 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: seeing these videos already at Williams. I mean, he's already 524 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: running and cutting and all these things because he's so 525 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: far out now, three or four months out. And then 526 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: it's different when it happens in a protey because now 527 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: it really does legitimately throw the rookie year in the question. Yeah, 528 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It's right, it's right up against 529 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: the it's right up against the draft as opposed to 530 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: an injury from January. And this is completely unfair to him. 531 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: But it's weird that we've actually gotten to the point 532 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: now where receiver tears as a c L and it's 533 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: not really a huge deal breaker for me anymore. You 534 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: feel like they can make it back from that. There's 535 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: something about that darn Achilles though, that always kind of 536 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: makes my stomach rumble, just because you're never too quite sure, 537 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: because it's not just about them coming back, it's what 538 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: is it taking out of the explosivity of the athlete. 539 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: And and that's that's one thing too. You've got a 540 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of monitor that's a pretty devastating injury in addition 541 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: from the pain aspect, but also the rehab. Yeah, well, 542 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: before we go, I want to get your thoughts on 543 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: any any names regarding offensive lineman, specifically offensive tackles. Yeah, 544 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: because I think that's a that's certainly a position the 545 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Packers are going to be looking very very strongly at. Um. 546 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: We're talking before we turn the cameras on about the 547 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Central Michigan Bernard Bernhard Raymond. Hopefully I'm saying that correctly. Um, 548 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: originally from Austria, comes over to the United States, UM 549 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: as a foreign exchange student. Originally, if I'm not mistaken, 550 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Um ends up ends up taking up football. UM goes 551 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: back to his home country, but then comes back to 552 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: America to play college football, starts out as a tight end, 553 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: gets converted from tight end to offensive tackle, and the question, 554 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: the question with with this young man is because of 555 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, because of his his background and just how 556 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: things developed and converting from tight end, there's a um, 557 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: there's a lot of excitement as to just how good 558 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: he might be because he's barely getting started, right, But 559 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: now we're also hearing some things just as the draft 560 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: is approaching that there might be some there might be 561 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: something popped up on a medical scan or something like that. 562 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: So just where this offensive tackle from Central Michigan is 563 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: going to go and how teams are valuing him, I 564 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: think is going to be interesting to why. Yeah, I 565 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: love that aspect of the tight end position because I 566 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: think there's a lot to be said for that. You're 567 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: seeing that more and more to uh, specifically in these 568 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: kind of situations, not not with the foreign exchange, but 569 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: in terms of a MAX school that they get a guy, 570 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: they feel really good about him as an athlete, they 571 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: get him in there and it's like, Okay, well maybe 572 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: this guy could be the way he's developing, maybe you 573 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: could be an offensive lineman. And I like what that 574 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: tight end position sometimes teaches those kids because there is 575 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: it happens a lot more than you think in terms 576 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: of guys that end up making that switch. Certainly, again, 577 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: we have to see it just came out and I 578 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know how credible the reporting is on it. But 579 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: it's another thing. It's it's these these things that will 580 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of pop up. We think these things that pop 581 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: up in the last forty eight seventy two hours before 582 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: the draft that that it's like you wonder, okay, is 583 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: there some truth to it? Is? Is it? Is it 584 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: just something completely off the mark? Is it maybe not 585 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: as bad as it's being reported, Like we really we 586 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: really don't know. But with regard to the Packers, we 587 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: know we know the first you know, three or four 588 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackles in this draft are gonna get taken very 589 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: very high. They aren't. They aren't really in range for 590 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: the Packers unless Brian Gudukums decides to make a major 591 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: major move. Um, So those guys, those guys are are 592 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, projected to go in the top you know, eight, nine, 593 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: ten picks of this draft. But there's a there is 594 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: a group of offensive tackles that expected to be available 595 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: in the back half of the first round. I think 596 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Raymond is one of them. Tyler Smith from Tulsa is 597 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: another one. I was talking to Larry about him because 598 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: Larry did the Prospect Primer video on him. And you know, 599 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith six pounds, he just turned twenty one years old. 600 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Um he Larry Larry described him as a maller. He's 601 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: an absolute maler of an offensive lineman. But incredibly raw 602 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: um green as grass as they say, as far as 603 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: you know the technique, the refinement, the past blocking part 604 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: of things. So a really intriguing prospect there who's probably 605 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: going to be available um in uh in the latter 606 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: half of the first round. But again, a twenty one 607 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: year old. That just how high is the ceiling? And 608 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: that's what that's what the scouts get paid for, right 609 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: to try to figure out how much these guys are 610 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: potentially worse. And it's weird because you look at those 611 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: guys up front, a lot of a lot of sec kids, 612 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: some some big ten kids. It's these guys in the 613 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: back that it's just their their backgrounds are all over 614 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: the place. I mean, you talk about Smith being from Tulsa, 615 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Trevor Penning, you know, the big kid from northern Iowa 616 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: if you would put him on Iowa not or than IWA, 617 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: no disrespect Northern Iowa Greade School, but like I'd be like, 618 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: this is the Packers type of pick. And you look 619 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: at his pedigree, his background, what he played in college, 620 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: the level at which he played it in that size 621 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: mike six ft seven three or twenty pounds, everything you 622 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: look for. I don't know how this kid ended up 623 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: over there at an FCS school. I love everything about 624 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: him and then my favorite it and I think you 625 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: even know who I'm gonna say here, Daniel Fallele from 626 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota six eight pounds. I mean, they just don't build 627 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: humans like this. But it's one thing to be that big, 628 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: it's another thing to be able to play to that way. Now, 629 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota kept him on the right side. I think that's 630 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: where he's gonna end up here in the pros. And 631 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: and maybe you know there's some stuff, you know, conditioning wise, 632 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: depending on which direction they want to go. But he's 633 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: a guy that you think, you see a guy that 634 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: big and you're thinking, Okay, you're just gonna be able 635 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: to speed past this kid. He knows how to move 636 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: in within his body and and being able to play 637 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: at Minnesota and seeing big ten competition. I'm really excited 638 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: about this kid. And to me, when you asked me 639 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: to start looking through the offensive lineman and start getting 640 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: my names together for guys that could potentially be there 641 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the first round, he's one of 642 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the ones I'm most excited about, just because I think 643 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: that ceiling with him and potentially what he could become 644 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: is really special. Yeah, seems like seems like there's heading 645 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: into this draft, the wide receiver position seems fairly deep, 646 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: which has been which is how it's been for a 647 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: few years now. Seems like there's maybe a little more 648 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: depth at the defensive line position than we've seen in 649 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: recent drafts. And UM and you don't often see UH 650 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: offensive tackles UH quality first round offensive tackles last until 651 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: the latter stages of the first round. But I think 652 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: some of them, some of them in this draft are 653 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be there. There's a really intriguing draft for 654 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: the big guys and UH and I think the Packers 655 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: have a need to to stock up a little bit 656 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: on both sides with regard to the big guys. And 657 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: that's and that's gonna be the interesting thing to see 658 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: how these dominoes fall. The Packers are picking eleven times 659 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: in this draft, I think, the most picks that they 660 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: have set up for going back to maybe two thousand thirteen. 661 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: There are a number of different areas they can address, 662 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of flexibility to when you 663 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: have to first, two seconds, the third, the fourth. The 664 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: only pick that the only time they're not picking right 665 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: now is a six round oh one. On the other 666 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: side of it, they have three in the seven. So 667 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: the the amount of flexibility that Brian is going to 668 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: have in this draft is unequal to anything he's seen, 669 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: including when he had the two first and two thousand nineteen. 670 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: So that that's why I think that the three days, 671 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: especially depending on what happens on Night one, it's going 672 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: to be as edge of the seat as it gets 673 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: for NFL Packers drafts, because really anything outside of the 674 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: top ten is in play, depending on how they want 675 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: to partner those picks, if they want to move around 676 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh and then, by the way, now 677 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: veteran A, B, and C is being potentially attached to 678 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: Green Bay two, could there be a trade on that 679 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: aspect of it? Get your popcorn ready, folks, It is 680 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: going to be a wild three days, absolutely, and with 681 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: that we will call it a rap. On this edition 682 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted, be sure to follow all of our 683 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: coverage of the team, all of our coverage of the draft. 684 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: We've got everything for you Thursday, Friday, Saturday, stories, videos, commentary, 685 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: all of it, instant reactions. If you want to be 686 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: following the draft live, stay on our website. West and 687 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: Larry and I are going to be talking about these 688 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: picks as soon as they're made. We're going to have 689 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: it all for you on packers dot com. For West, 690 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We'll see 691 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: you next time.