1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can'tf I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose sitting in for coblt this week. John will 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: be back next week. Well, what a story. US Attorney 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: Billy A. Saley has announced and arrest and criminal chargers 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 3: in two separate cases misuse of public funds. This is 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: a good example of the good guys getting the bad guys. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: But the fact that so much public money was open 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: for theft and fraud through the state's Project Home Key 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: is truly truly concerning KF. Michael Monks was there at 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: the press conference, So what do we know about these 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: individuals and how hard did they have to try to 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: steal this homeless money? 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: Apparently, Lou, they didn't have to try quite as hard 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: as the US Attorney's Office would like to see. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: In fact, that was noted. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: I'll have a clip for you here momentarily from one 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: of the investigators at the IRS, who point out that 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: the system is sort of designed, unfortunately to be preyed upon. 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: But what we know so far is that a couple 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: of guys now face charges over allegedly misusing public funds 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: for their own personal benefit. And one of those guys 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: is Cody Holmes. We learned about this guy last year 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: because the development company where he served as chief financial 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: officer sued him over the misappropriation of funds. But it 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: doesn't look like that development company has completely offlook themselves 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: off the hook themselves. They're called Shangra Law Industries. Cody 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Holmes lives in Beverly Hills worked as a CFO at 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: Shangra Law and so he was in charge of submitting 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: a lot of the documents that were necessary to be 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: received by state and local entities in order to disperse 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: public monies. He was trying to secure nearly twenty six 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: million dollars in grant money for a state homelessness project 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: called Home Key in Thousand Oaks. This organization had already 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: received millions of public dollars to build and operate housing 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: for the homeless in Redlands and in King City up 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: in Monterey County, so they had a relationship with the 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: state government. This twenty six million dollar grant ended up 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: being awarded because of the work that Holmes did on 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: behalf of Shangra Law, And what federal prosecutors allege is 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: that more than two point two million dollars of that 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: was transferred from Shangra Law to an account that Holmes controlled, 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: and then from November of twenty two to May of 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, more than two million dollars was paid 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: towards American Express cards. And the charges on those credit 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: card accounts include the purchases at well known luxury retailers. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: So basically, they're alleging that your tax dollars paid for 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: Cody Holmes to go to luxury retailers and rack up 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: charges of more than two million dollars on his American 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: Express cards, which he then paid off with your money. 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Then there's a second. 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: Guy who lives in the parlic Can we can be 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: sitt with Shangri La Industries for a minute. 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely does ej entertainment come to mind? 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: From the Wolf of Wall Street rob Ryiner coming running 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: into the boardroom. 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: What is EJ entertaining? 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 5: I mean? 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Is this like? 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: No, this didn't show up on the radar of anybody's 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Shangri Law Industries involved in Project Home Key and housing 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: the homeless. 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: I suppose they don't hold it against them if they 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: get creative with their names. And again, this organization had 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: a relationship with the state agencies because they had already 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: received millions of dollars for other developments, again in Redlands 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: and in King City in Monterey County. So it may 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: have been even easier for Cody Holmes to allegedly pull 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: off this scam because of the work that had been 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: done previously. I note that last year, in twenty twenty four, 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: was reported that that company was going after him for 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: similar reasons. But he has now been formally charged. He 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: faces twenty years in prison, and he lives in Beverly Hills. 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: I point that out because the next guy lives in Brentwood. 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: So these aren't guys coming. 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: Out of poor areas in LA or not the first 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: time they've been on a rodeo in working with Project 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: home Key. So all of a sudden to decide, you know, 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: I need to go shopping, and I'm just going to 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: use that little bit of money that's in the account 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: and pay off my It just seems like a strange 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 3: turn of a career move. 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: Well, I can imagine that for somebody who doesn't have 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 4: a conscience. If you're in a position to where you 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: have access to that many millions of dollars, it's got 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: to be tempting. It's got to be tempting, especially when 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: you think you can get away with it, because there 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: has to be an element of that to it. Again, 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: these are just charges, these are allegations, but you know, 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: he is accused of stealing two million dollars for purchases 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: he made for himself in a very short period of time. 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: We're talking six months. This other guy is Stephen Taylor. 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 4: He's from Brentwood. He's charged with bank fraud, aggravated identity theft, 94 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: and money laundering. He's already out of jail right now 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: on three point six million dollars bond. And here's what 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: federal prosecutors allege about him. Between August of twenty nineteen 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: and July of twenty twenty five. He's accused of using 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: fake banks statements and false cash representations to obtain loans 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: and line of lines of credit to operate his own 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: real estate businesses. So he has acquired or refinance properties 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: in La neighborhoods like Silver Lake, Los Phelis, Westlake, del Rey, 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: Pico Union, and Chevy Hills. Has got a long history 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: of doing this, but he would allegedly lie to lenders 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: about his intended use of the property. So what ended 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 4: up happening is one of these properties that he purchased 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: allegedly lying to receive a loan for for eleven million dollars. 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: This other publicly funded homeless housing developer, Wineguard shows up 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: and purchases that same property for twenty seven million dollars 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: because he lied to inflate the price of it, so 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: he faces even more time in prison. Cody Holmes faces 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: up to twenty up to twenty years in prison, and 112 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: Steven Taylor this could be a very long sentence because 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: for each of those counts. It's thirty years in prison 114 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: for each of the seven bank fraud counts, ten years 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: in federal prison for the money laundering count, and a 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: mandatory consecutive two year prison sentence for the aggravated identity 117 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: theft count. 118 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good day for the US Attorney's office, right. 119 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: This looks like the bad guys got caught and the 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: good guys are bringing them to justice, at least with 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: respect to some of the facts that were laid out at. 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: The press conference today. 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: Well, let me take you back to April when Acting 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: US Attorney Bill A. Sale announced that he was forming 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: a task force specifically to investigate fraud and corruption in 126 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: homeless funds, and he said today that that work is ongoing. 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 6: We are tracking billions of dollars of public money coming 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 6: into our seven county district that is intended to be 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: going to address homelessness. Too often this money has been wasted, mismanaged, 130 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 6: or outright stolen. We are focused on the organizations and 131 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 6: entities that are the recipients of these funds, and we'll 132 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 6: be seeking charges against anyone who steals this money or 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 6: misrepresents how it's being used. 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: So think about that, lou What motivated the US Attorney's 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: Office to announce such a task force. It's been a 136 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: series of audits and public questions, either from the media 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: or other government officials, who say this homeless industrial complex, 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: specifically in Los Angeles County and the City of Los 139 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: Angeles is running rampant with no serious checks or balances. 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: IRS investigator Tyler Hatcher said this today. 141 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 7: The city and County of Los Angeles have been played 142 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 7: by deficient programs set up to address homelessness. Businessmen, releaters, developers, 143 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 7: and others have taken advantage of local, state, and federal 144 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 7: programs aimed at helping vulnerable citizens. This unchecked fraud stops today. 145 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: So not only have these government agencies been accused of 146 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: either mismanaging their funds or not accounting for it properly, 147 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: the IRS is saying they're not even set up to 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: be protected from these predatory developers who can easily apparently 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: come in and steal tens of millions of dollars from them. 150 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 151 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Now you were at the press of conference today, was 152 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: a US Attorney, Billy A. Sally, flanked by any of 153 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: the members of the Bord of Supervisors, the county attorneys, 154 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: any of the being counters at the county, or anybody 155 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: that is involved with Project home Key that represents the 156 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Los Angeles to the state project. 157 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: No, only two other individuals the one you just heard 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: from at the IRS, Tyler Hatcher, and Akil Davis from 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: the FBI here in Los Angeles. So it was just 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: a federal case, and this federal investigation is ongoing and 161 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: it may be looking at some of those government agencies. 162 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: When we first got word that the US Attorney's Office 163 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: was to announce arrest today and charges today, you know, 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: our minds were all over the place about what that 165 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 4: could represent, because there are so many different hands and 166 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: government agencies and publicly funded agencies and quasi government agencies 167 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: that are connected to the money that is dispersed to 168 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: support homeless housing. But it turns out to be these 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: two guys first. But you get the sense that these 170 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: investigations aren't stopping here. 171 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: Michael Monks with the KFI Newsroom, Thanks so much, Thanks 172 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: for going down there today. Thanks for coming back and 173 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: giving us the details this afternoon. 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, let's sort through this 175 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: a little bit. 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: It seems that a lot of money is going to 177 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: solve this homelessness issue, and a lot of it's not 178 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: going to the homeless, to the housing projects, to the 179 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: social workers. Some of it's going to pay off American 180 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: Express cards for people that are involved in the setup 181 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: of the whole thing. But it doesn't need to be 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: this complicated, and maybe we need to take a whole 183 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: different approach to how we raise this money, administer this money, 184 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: and begin to get people into housing. 185 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: And I have some of my own thoughts. That's coming 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: up next. 187 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose if John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 8: six forty. 191 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose Iva John Cobelt on the John Covelt Show. 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: So look a major story. 193 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: The US Attorney billy Is Saley announcing today arrest and 194 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: criminal charges two separate cases involving fraudum issuse of public 195 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: money intended to combat homelessness, literally stealing money from Project 196 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: home Key, which is public funding for the motel to 197 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: housing conversion process, to accompany Shangri law industries. That gets 198 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: me so good for the good guys, Good for the 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: US Attorney's Office. I don't know why we would not 200 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: see representatives from the Board of Supervisors. They're standing shoulder 201 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: to shoulder with law enforcement. I know they're on different 202 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: political sides with respect to the President of the. 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: United States, but this is law and order. 204 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: And we have been fighting and fighting and fighting in 205 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County, fighting and fighting and fighting everywhere. 206 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: In California to combat homelessness. 207 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: And one of the ways to do it is to 208 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: get those who are qualified to live in some kind 209 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: of shelter, whether it's motel or housing, to get them 210 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: in there quickly. And there's a lot of criticism of 211 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: the housing first model, and I understand where that criticism 212 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: comes from. 213 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: But I do know this having worked on. 214 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: Homeless outreach committees for the United Way, and I did 215 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: some private consulting, and I work with private apartment owners, 216 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: and not every homeless person is the same. And homelessness 217 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: is complicated, but it's not. And I'll explain what that 218 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: means and why I just said it. It's complicated because 219 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: there's many layers to it. But the solution to teach 220 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: one of those layers is pretty easy. When we do 221 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: these point in time counts, when we do these studies, 222 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: when we contract with people, or when voluntary organizations from 223 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: universities go and study our homeless population. 224 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: We all reach the same conclusions. 225 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: And that is it's pretty much three different communities, three 226 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: different categories of homeless. There is absolute mental illness, like literally, 227 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: people that are a five dollars Copaid generic you know, 228 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: medicine for manic depression, away from being normal like you 229 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: and me, hold a. 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Job, have a house, have a family. 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: They lose access to that medicine or for whatever reason, 232 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: go off their meds and now they're a homeless person 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: screaming at a lampost I mean literally, we could solve 234 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: a third of the homeless problem with just very inexpensive 235 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: psychotropics that are available on the market. 236 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Then you get into people who literally just. 237 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: Became homeless, like have only been homeless for six months 238 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: for a very short period of time, and prior to 239 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: that had apartments and cars and jobs, and something happened. 240 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: It could have been just a life event that was overwhelming, 241 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: or a series of events in their life perfect storm. 242 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: You probably had some of those in your life where 243 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: just everything is happening at the same time and it's 244 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: all bad, and some individuals just could not handle it 245 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: and cave to the pressure and there was no family around, 246 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: or they got sideways with their family. But they already 247 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: know how to live on their own, They already know 248 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: how to get up and go to work, They already 249 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: know how to have rent money, but they just don't 250 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: have it anymore, can't get it anymore, and are probably 251 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: a little depressed too, and probably tired by the way. 252 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: Women make up a large portion of that second like 253 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: trifurcation that I just did. And if you can't sleep 254 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: because you're worried because you're a woman and you're homeless, 255 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 3: you will start to feel crazy very quickly, and it's 256 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: a real pity. And we can help these people and should, 257 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: but they're easy to help, Like these are people that 258 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: you you give them an opportunity to get into a 259 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: motel room or a not a shelter so much, but 260 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: a private. 261 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Space where they could bolt the door. 262 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: Behind them and take a shower, and quickly they can 263 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: recover with help. 264 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: And then the other third are just. 265 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: Really people like they're the wor the lowest of the 266 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: low with respect to our ability to recover them. 267 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,479 Speaker 1: They they are either. 268 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: They just are resistant. They are insistent on being abum. 269 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: They refuse, they refuse treatment. They don't want to not 270 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: be homeless anymore. And these are tough cases, and even 271 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: social workers will tell you these are the hard case. 272 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: The last ten percent of your caseload. If you were 273 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: able to solve one hundred percent of your caseload as 274 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: a social worker in this in this space, the last 275 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: ten percent is where you're going to spend eighty percent 276 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: of your time. But now you're down to only a 277 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: third of the homeless left, but one hundred percent of 278 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: the social workers and one hundred percent of the shelters 279 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: and spaces available to help, so we could really attack 280 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: the problem and really. 281 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Get at it. 282 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: So like just pouring money into the situation is not 283 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: working it. Where there is lots of government money, there 284 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: will be crooks. Sometimes even people from legitimate business worlds 285 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: will all of a sudden decide, you know what, no 286 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: one's looking, no one cares. There's so much money coming in, 287 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: and if I don't take it, somebody else will. And 288 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: if I take it, there'll be more tomorrow. Nobody will 289 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: ever notice, and sometimes that does. I'm not saying that's 290 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: what's happened here, but that's at least what some of 291 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: the charges are and some of the stories. So those 292 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: credit cards were paid off with public moneys, there's no 293 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: question about that. 294 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: We'll get to know more about that in the days 295 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: and weeks to come, and keep you posted. 296 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt 297 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the 298 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 299 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 8: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM 300 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 8: six forty. 301 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt this week talking about 302 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: this major story US attorney Billy A Sale today and 303 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: other federal LA enforcement officials announced the arrest and criminal 304 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: charges in two separate cases, fraud and misuse of public 305 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: money for homelessness, literally stealing money out of Project Home Key, 306 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: falsifying financial records, buying buildings designed for the homeless and 307 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: then selling them at millions of dollars of profit, taking 308 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: money that was intended for motel to housing conversions and 309 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: using it to payoff personal credit cards. 310 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: It makes your blood boil. 311 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: But my experience is sorry, So two things can be 312 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: true at the same time. Number one, you cannot solve 313 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: mental illness while somebody is sleeping on. 314 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: A park bench. You can't. 315 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 3: You can't solve a drug addiction in mental illness while 316 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: somebody is in a tent on the sidebalk. 317 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: This is not going to happen. 318 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: So they have to be somewhere, whether that's in a hospital, 319 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: in an institution. 320 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Which I have always advocated. If I advocated for. 321 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: I would argue, you can't solve mental illness and a 322 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: shelter either, but at least they're not on the street. 323 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: But there has to be. 324 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: You can say housing first, you can say shelter first. 325 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: You can say accommodations first. There has to be a 326 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: place where the individual who is being helped can go 327 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: and safely lock the door behind them. That's true in 328 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: my opinion. Number two, Money doesn't solve the problem. And 329 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: the more money you throw out, more opportunity there is 330 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: for some shister to steal it out of Beverly Hills. 331 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Money doesn't solve the problem. And here's why. 332 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: You pick a homeless person for me. Point out a 333 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: homeless person for me anywhay, Just pick a random homeless person. 334 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: Let's give him first and last month's rent plus a 335 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: security deposit, and guess what. In ninety days, they'll be 336 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: just as homeless. So it has nothing to do with money. 337 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: I'm tired of paying taxes to the last segment of 338 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: thieves that keeps stealing it and taking it and stealing it. 339 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to work no more. I understand where 340 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: that comes from. 341 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 7: I totally agree, though on the homeless analysis she gave 342 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 7: right on spot on. 343 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I'm spot on. 344 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: But they have made it far more complicated with setting 345 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: up all these nonprofits and then government money is funded 346 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: through sends money to the nonprofits and the nonprofits higher consultants, 347 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: and then they engage with people in the private and 348 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: public sector of housing and all of a SUDD where 349 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: I broadcast from Monday through Friday. 350 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: In San Diego at Kogo. 351 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: The county was giving more money to a hotel operator 352 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 3: out in Kearney, Mesa. And the hotel operator was it 353 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: was all homeless people. They're putting the homeless people in 354 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: the motel, and the motel owner was charging more to 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: the county or to whatever nonprofit the county funneled money 356 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: to than the rack rate of the motel. 357 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: So you would never go to these motels, trust me. 358 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: But back in the day when people actually could take 359 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: a family to a motel, what that person would pay 360 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: for a motel room instead of giving a discount to 361 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: the county, the county was overpaid like by a lot, 362 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: not like one hundred and ten percent, like two hundred 363 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: percent of the rack rate of the hotel. 364 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: So the hotel operator. 365 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Was happy, the county it wasn't you know the nonprofit money, 366 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: it's money is money. They have no connection the money 367 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: because the money is just given to them from the 368 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: county or whatever grant they applied for or whatever. And 369 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: they wrecked the hotels and they're not fixed. 370 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: They're not helped. 371 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: They don't answer the door when the social worker comes. 372 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Some of them were engaging in prostitution in there. There's 373 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: certainly drug use, and it just became a huge blight 374 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: to the rest of the people that had to live 375 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: or work or business is near this once functioning motel. 376 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: So you cannot just if you want to say housing first, 377 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: then you better tell me what second right away, like 378 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: that very afternoon. As soon as the homeless person is 379 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: moved into quote housing, then by noon that day whatever 380 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: is second after housing first has to go into effect. 381 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Otherwise we're just wreckon motel rooms. Public money is being wasted, 382 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: the homeless are not being helped, our quality of life diminishes, 383 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: and at some point the gravy train runs out or 384 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: the hotel gets condemned, where somebody starts a fire and 385 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: the whole thing burns down and they're all back on 386 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: the streets. 387 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: So it has to be sheltering of some kind. 388 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: And I'm not necessarily talking about a Salvation Army homeless shelter, 389 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: although the Salvation Army are doing their part. But it 390 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: has to be mental health evaluation and care, and it 391 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: has to be compulsory. See, we used to have insane 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: asylums back in the day. 393 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: You can call them mental health institutions. 394 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: You can call them the nervous hospital like Billy Bob 395 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: Thornton did. 396 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want to call them. Great 397 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: big gray. 398 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: Buildings with bars on the window, beds inside, with nurse ratchet. 399 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: We used to have that, and that's where these people 400 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: went until they were good enough to be out on 401 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: the street. 402 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: Again, we don't have that anymore. 403 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: And there's a whole history as to why we don't 404 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: have that, and I've heard all the libertarian arguments. But 405 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: what we have now is we have one flew over 406 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: the cuckoo's nest inside out, like down to like six 407 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: in la Is, one flew out of the cuckoo's nest, 408 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: just in the reverse. There is no nurse, there are 409 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: no beds, but the insane asylum is inside out. 410 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: On our city streets. 411 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: It's the same insane asylum, except instead of walking the 412 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: corridors of the insane asylum, they're walking our corridors of society. 413 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: So we haven't really changed that much. The homeless are 414 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: really still committed in their own minds because they're not 415 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: getting help. They're not committed in an institution where they 416 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: would be getting help. But the homeless are just as 417 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: jailed because they're ill and in the rain. 418 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: So one day we'll get it right. 419 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: But at least today we got the bad guys who 420 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: had their hand in the cookie jar Lou Penrose. If 421 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 422 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 423 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six. 424 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: Forty talking about this major arrest and filing of criminal 425 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: chargers against two individuals misusing public funds that was intended 426 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: to combat homelessness here in California, ceiling from the state's 427 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: Project Home Key program. Yeah, it doesn't ding bat Newsom 428 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: say housing first, so he's obviously to blame too. 429 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Well. 430 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: I do know this that when Gavin Newsom was mayor 431 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: of the City and County of San Francisco, there was homeless, 432 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: and now there's more homeless, so he doesn't know how 433 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 3: to solve homeless. There was less homeless in twenty ten 434 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles than there is now. There was almost 435 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: no homeless in twenty ten in San Francisco, and there 436 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: was no homeless in Sacramento or relatively none. 437 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: There was a whino here and there. 438 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: So something has changed, and that's a completely different conversation 439 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: and probably uncomfortable conversation for our society. But we can 440 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: have that conversation another time. Something has unraveled. Back in 441 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: the day, homelessness or complete poverty in American society in 442 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: a major American city meant you either really did something wrong, 443 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: you gambled away the rent money, you're a drunk and 444 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: an idiot, and now you're on the cold heart smet 445 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: or like something just happened and you were begging for 446 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: money and you were trying to get back on your feet. 447 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: Like back in the day, people didn't want to be homeless. 448 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Now I don't think people that are homeless want to 449 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: be homeless, but they act like they want to be homeless. 450 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: They resist help, they resist sobriety, they resist care, they 451 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: resist moving to a shelter, if that shelter has conditions. 452 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: That's very new. We have not seen that in the past. 453 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: And I suspect as a society we don't. 454 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Have the emotional. 455 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Or mental capacity to comprehend why any American, why any 456 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: Angelina would rather spend the night in the rain than 457 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: go to a shelter. But the condition of the shelter is, Look, 458 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: you can't drink here, and you've got to be sober. 459 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: We're trying to help you. Right, many people say, no, 460 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to stay where I am. 461 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: I got some cardboard boxes. The rain will eventually stop. 462 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: I know the seven to eleven that lets me use 463 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: the restroom, and I got a whole little system here, Like, 464 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: we're not able to comprehend that because those of us 465 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: that are housed, we don't want to be in the rain. 466 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: So we think they don't want to be in the rain. 467 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: And we're arguing with again mental illness, or we're arguing 468 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: with drug addiction or a level of depression that is very, 469 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: very new. 470 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: All I want to know is am I going to 471 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: get my money back? 472 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: No? 473 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: You're not, but you'll get your treasure in heaven. Hey. 474 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: So, former Speaker of the House and current California Congresswoman 475 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi had a run in with a reporter yesterday 476 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: and it really got ugly and it went sideways. This 477 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: is now a string of California Democrats who are losing 478 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: it with journalists. Which it depending on. 479 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: Where you how you feel about age and crotchetiness. 480 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: It might be an issue of age, or it might 481 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: be an issue of California. 482 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: Democrats don't like. 483 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: This new brand of journalism that is being unfolded upon them. 484 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: You now have the Ashley Zavalas of the world from 485 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: CACRA and Sacramento. You saw the reporter that went up 486 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: against Katie Porter and followed up the question three times 487 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: on whether or not we'd see any more of these videos, 488 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: and Porter just refuse to answer. It's happening to Gavin Newsom, 489 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: believe it or not. You see it happened to Democrats 490 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: on the Hill in DC, and now you hear it 491 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: happening to former Speaker Pelosi who just does not want 492 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: follow up questions. 493 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: Anymore and shouted at the reporter, shut up. 494 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: I did not refuse the national guard. The president didn't 495 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 5: send it. 496 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: Oh boy, tells the reporter to shut up. Into the microphone. 497 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: It wasn't an under the breath comment. It wasn't a 498 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: hot mic comment. It was into the microphone. 499 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: Shut up. 500 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: I did not refuse the national Guard. The President didn't 501 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 5: send it. 502 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: So when we get back from following the news at 503 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: two o'clock, we'll talk with the Hills Ashley Fields. There's 504 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: a new January sixth commission that has been put together 505 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: by Congressman Barry luden Milk Ludermilk Ludmilk of Georgia. New 506 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: Select Committee. It's under the House to just share committee. 507 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: They're going to look at then Speaker Pelosis roll in 508 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: January sixth. So now the shoe was on the other foot, 509 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: and you thought the whole January sixth thing was over 510 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: and the investigation was over. 511 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Now they're starting it all over again. 512 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 3: But now Republicans are in charge, and they're saying that 513 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: the Nancy Pelosi had the ability to call in the 514 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: National Guard and quell the uprising and catch the Viking 515 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: guy with the hat and the spear, and he should 516 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: should have never been inside the Capitol. Where is that 517 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: Viking guide? By the way, that's the that's the image 518 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 3: that comes to mind whenever I hear of January sixth. 519 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: That's the difference between me and I think Trump hating Democrats, 520 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: Trump hating Democrats see the insurrection, and all I can 521 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 3: see is that Viking guy with the face paint uh 522 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: and the uh in the water buffalo lodge from the 523 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: flintstones that that hat on and the and the horns 524 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: and the spear, and also the other guy. 525 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: There's two. There's two real iconic images of. 526 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: January sixth that's on my mind, and that is the 527 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: Viking guy and he's always flanked by the other guy. 528 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: It looks like the lead singer from the eighties southern 529 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: rock band thirty eight Special. 530 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: So the lead singer from thirty eight Special on the 531 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: Viking Guide. 532 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: They're going to come back into the public news as 533 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: this new select committee established to look into Pelosi's role, 534 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: and as I said, Speaker Pelosi did not like the 535 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: line of question. Daing Congers on Pelosi, are you at 536 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: all concerned that the new January sixth. 537 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Committee will find you wiable to that? 538 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 6: Why did you refuse the National Guard on January sixth? 539 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: Shut up? 540 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't 541 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking 542 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 5: points as if you're as a serious journal. 543 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: The American people want to know we still have questions. 544 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Thank you? Oh boy? All right, So when we come back, 545 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Ashley Field. 546 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: She's with the Hill and she'll give us an update 547 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: on Nancy Pelosi. Also, Senator Mitch McConnell took a spill today. 548 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: It might be time to revisit Termine. It's all coming 549 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: up next on The John Covelt Show. 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