WEBVTT - One on one with Ben Johnson | Bears, etc. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Cut open that DJ Moore zode touchdown touchdown Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Jeff jonihack.

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<v Speaker 3>Blitz is not Donnie got what was like playing for

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<v Speaker 3>Coche Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to answer any questions like that pressure

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<v Speaker 1>coming is a big trouble. Dommi gos Mottest Sweat.

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<v Speaker 4>Bears et Cetera brought to you by Miller Light with

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<v Speaker 4>the voices of the Bears Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer.

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome the new head coach of the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson, in this episode one of the Bears et

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<v Speaker 1>Cetera podcast with Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Thayer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jeff Joniak.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Bears et Cetera is brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by Miller LIGHTE good to have you alongside. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>writing a little notes, little nuggets Tom, over the course.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many little pieces of paper and scribbles

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm running out of room to kind of characterize

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<v Speaker 1>what we have here in Chicago now with thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old Ben Johnson, introduced as the eighteenth full time

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<v Speaker 1>head coach in Bear's history nineteenth overall, and you consider

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<v Speaker 1>interim boss Thomas Brown last season, but color me fascinated,

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<v Speaker 1>color me intrigue, color me excited and hopeful.

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<v Speaker 4>How about you, Well, you're a guy that's full of scribbles,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's no difference in any other day of your life,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's because of a new head coach or just

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<v Speaker 4>preparation for a game. When I look at a situation

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<v Speaker 4>like this, Jeff, I got to look at it in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of different ways. I have to look at

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<v Speaker 4>it as a Bears fan. I have to look at

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<v Speaker 4>it as an ex player when you're all of a suddenly

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<v Speaker 4>starting to going to try to impress a new head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you have to look at it as an

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<v Speaker 4>alumni and a broadcaster. And so I am super excited

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<v Speaker 4>about what I saw at the conclusion of him addressing

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<v Speaker 4>the podium because he didn't say anything unrealistic. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>fill our heads full of false hope. He filled our

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<v Speaker 4>heads worth a realistic work that's ahead of him in

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<v Speaker 4>order to continue this process of what the organization wants

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<v Speaker 4>to see out of him, and that's a consistent winner,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that's what we all want to see

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<v Speaker 4>out of them. But when I look at the hiring

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<v Speaker 4>of a new head coach through the eyes of a player.

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<v Speaker 5>You're better be on high alert.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, because I knew you were going to say that,

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<v Speaker 4>even though your slate is wipe clean, you better understand

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<v Speaker 4>that you're probably getting ready to go into one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most difficult training camps that you've ever been through,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's the initial process of most head coaches that

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<v Speaker 4>are hired in professional football in college football. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>been a part of changes on both levels. So I

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<v Speaker 4>really enjoyed what Ben said at the podium, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really excited to see this journey get underway.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will hear some of my one on one

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Ben Jonson before the news conference that took

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<v Speaker 1>place at HALISAW. It was wonderful conversation, wonderful meeting. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that you'll hear is our goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to win and win now. There was no shying away, No, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to take some time. We know what's

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<v Speaker 1>up though. We know it's a process, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is not shying away from it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's his personality. Tom this guy. He sets high

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<v Speaker 1>standards for himself and he's certainly going to set high

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<v Speaker 1>standards for his team.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that was one of the most encouraging things to

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<v Speaker 4>me that he said, because you know, Jeff, when you

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<v Speaker 4>go back and you look at the season and you

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<v Speaker 4>look at the reality of the division, the Bears were

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<v Speaker 4>as close to winning the division as they were into

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the division. And so when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at this process and the development and what quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>that's going into a second year, and some of the

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<v Speaker 4>assets he talked about already being put in place in place,

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<v Speaker 4>and what Ryan's going to put in place, it is

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<v Speaker 4>realistic for him to stand up there and say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>we're here to win, and we're here to win now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that should be the most encouraging thing

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<v Speaker 4>to everybody that is part of the Bear pandemonium, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it is fun to listen to him stand

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<v Speaker 4>up there and talk about winning with confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought up the ex player in you,

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<v Speaker 1>the eighty five Bear, the Super Bowl winner, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the types of coaches that have surrounded your life from

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<v Speaker 1>the time you played youth football to the time you

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<v Speaker 1>finished your career in Miami with Don Shula, and You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to look at it any other

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<v Speaker 1>way from through a player's eyes and what expectations are.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were sitting in that meeting room, or were

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<v Speaker 1>you sitting in that press conference room with guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Roma Dunze, DJ Moore, Caleb Williams and Cole Komett. He

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<v Speaker 1>was looking right at them when he spoke to them.

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<v Speaker 1>As a player, you can appreciate that better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were that player at the age of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, twenty eight, seven, twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever these guys are are right now, they're in that

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<v Speaker 1>realm right there, would you be having an adrenaline rush

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<v Speaker 1>of like, Okay, I get it, let's go listen.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was a player that was able to touch

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<v Speaker 4>the football, if I was one of those special guys,

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<v Speaker 4>a receiver, a tight end, a running back, a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>and then see that body of work that Ben has

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<v Speaker 4>already put on display around the division, around the league,

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<v Speaker 4>I would be trying to draw plays in my head.

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<v Speaker 5>Going, I wonder if Ben would even consider this.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you think about this, because they're just

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<v Speaker 4>coming off of a game this past week, what it

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<v Speaker 4>four or five days ago, and you have the broadcasters say,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I've never seen that play in the

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<v Speaker 4>history of my career, and that was the pitch to

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<v Speaker 4>David Montgomery and the shovel pass forward. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 4>it either. I've been around some of the most creative

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<v Speaker 4>minds in offensive football for almost forty years as a

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<v Speaker 4>player and a broadcaster, and I've never seen it. So

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm one of those guys Jeff, that I know

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<v Speaker 4>that I have the opportunity to touch the football, I

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<v Speaker 4>would be out of my mind. I would have a

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<v Speaker 4>hard time sleeping tonight, and I have a hard I

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<v Speaker 4>would have a hard time not being in the building tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can make eye contact with Ben Johnson and

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<v Speaker 4>just let him know how excited I am to be

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<v Speaker 4>a part of it. But then you think about the

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<v Speaker 4>process of success and you talk about what they have

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<v Speaker 4>to do on the offense and defensive line. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>that's a really important part of the future of the

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<v Speaker 4>success of the Bears. But you can ignore the creativity

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<v Speaker 4>that this guy has already shown us, especially in the

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<v Speaker 4>division for a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>When he walked into the auditorium to visit with me

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<v Speaker 1>for the different Bears platforms, and you will hear the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>but not this part. But he goes first thing, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you call stumblebum? And I said, you got me?

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought I just thought it was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>stumbling around. I go, yeah, you got me good, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just started laughing. I appreciated that that was. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a funny little entree to meeting Ben Johnson. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is that this is not from any particular tree.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a collaboration of different influences in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>If you read the backgrounds and the stories, Adam Johns

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<v Speaker 1>of the Athletic did one, Dan Pompeii did one while

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<v Speaker 1>back prior to him became a coaching candidate for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears while he was with Detroit. It's it's Eric Corial,

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<v Speaker 1>It's West Coast offense, its influences of of of many,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Martz, it's it's Adam Gase, It's I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a long list. He's been exposed to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things. Tommy, is that an encouraging component for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not from a particular tree. This is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be and he made it clear this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears offense. It's gonna be it's gonna be Caleb's offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And that was again, another super encouraging thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I heard from him out of the podium, because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want a manual from another offensive coordinator in your

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<v Speaker 4>pass and saying, Okay, we're gonna insert this during this

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<v Speaker 4>type of defense. We are going to put this in

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<v Speaker 4>during this type of defensive front. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>the creativity that Ben Johnson has shown all of us.

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<v Speaker 4>And again we had we got to see him twice

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<v Speaker 4>a year since he's been around Detroit, so it's not

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, this is not something that we're not

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<v Speaker 4>familiar with. And a lot of the different plays, whether

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<v Speaker 4>he's throwing a pass to an offensive tackle, the different

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<v Speaker 4>formations that he has on the goal line, and all

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<v Speaker 4>the other things that he used at the perfect time

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<v Speaker 4>to use the play that nobody suspected or seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you've got Jared Goff taking center quarterback exchange acting

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<v Speaker 4>like he stumbled. Also, I could buy time for the

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<v Speaker 4>receiver to get done and let the defenders drop their guard.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to see the creation of that mind

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<v Speaker 4>with a quarterback like Caleb and the other assets that

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<v Speaker 4>they have aboard from Cole to Rome to DJ in

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<v Speaker 4>every one of the off their offensive weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the big things too, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a strong takeaway here is and George McCaskey said it.

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<v Speaker 1>He met the media a conversation with George as well

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<v Speaker 1>when the zoom interview started, because he didn't come here

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<v Speaker 1>to Hallas Hall until afterwards the zoom. He says, I

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<v Speaker 1>want this job. When the Zoom ended, he reminded them,

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<v Speaker 1>did I tell you I want this job? And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that excitement for something you know? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>back to when you wrapped up your career. You dabbled

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<v Speaker 1>in some television, you dabbled in some radio, and the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to become the analyst for the Bears and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Radio Network, you made it clear you want this job.

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<v Speaker 1>That passion was exuding from you. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have any doubt from the person you're interviewing about whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going through the process or they're just using

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<v Speaker 1>you for another opportunity elsewhere to create a market. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to market. He wanted to be a Bear.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that, and like he said, he wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>stay within the division. And I think that's really important

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<v Speaker 4>because there's some there's incremental issues that you already know

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<v Speaker 4>about the division. And I think when you're a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's saying, Okay, I'm going to go from Detroit to Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>they have some centerpieces already in place. Now what can

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<v Speaker 4>I do to put my own stamp on this team?

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<v Speaker 4>And he did not ignore the fact that Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 4>was an important part of his coaching development over the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years. But this is no longer about

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<v Speaker 4>all the other coaches. This is about what Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 4>the head coach of the Chicago Bears, is going to

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<v Speaker 4>do moving forward. All the influences that he has in

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<v Speaker 4>his football life because of the other people that he

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<v Speaker 4>played with and was tutored by, that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>You take all that into account.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he walks into that building from now on

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<v Speaker 4>and you're got that parking spot, you know exactly where

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<v Speaker 4>to go in, you know where your office is, it's

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<v Speaker 4>got to be an unbelievable feeling for a young man

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yells has a great respect for the Bears defense said

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<v Speaker 1>it was challenging that that's what he talked.

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<v Speaker 4>About, you know, whether you want to minimalize it down

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<v Speaker 4>to the red zone or the entire field. And I

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<v Speaker 4>like to hear him think that way. Because he knows,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, part of the development of his coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 4>what they already have out there, what they need to

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<v Speaker 4>build upon. In the fact that what do I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do now when I see these guys every day in

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<v Speaker 4>camp to try to keep them as difficult as they

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<v Speaker 4>were for me, make it difficult on the opponent, but

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<v Speaker 4>all ultimately how to get him better.

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<v Speaker 1>warm this winter. All right, so let's listen in to

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<v Speaker 1>the new head coach of the Bears, the gentleman who

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<v Speaker 1>helped a Detroit Lions team have two fabulous seasons. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been there for three, and over those last two seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>no unit in the league has average more points per

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<v Speaker 1>game or yards per game each of the last three seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Coordinating that to trade offense, Johnson's crew had top five

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<v Speaker 1>in total offense every season, including number two here in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four with a four thousand yard quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 1>each season under Johnson. That would be Jared Goff. This

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<v Speaker 1>is our interview with a new Bears head coach, Ben Johnson. So,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the next chapter of your football life, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happens to be with the charter franchise of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you put that in the words?

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard to express.

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<v Speaker 7>This is such an iconic franchise with such a storied

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<v Speaker 7>history that only when you're a little boy do you

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<v Speaker 7>think of something like this, and so to see it

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<v Speaker 7>to come to light just like it did, opportunity I

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<v Speaker 7>could not turn down. I'm beyond excited. It Really don't

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<v Speaker 7>have words to express the excitement and enthusiasm I have

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<v Speaker 7>right now for this job.

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<v Speaker 3>Your Mandit had many opportunities.

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<v Speaker 7>Why Chicago, That is a great question.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you. I'll tell you this Number one.

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<v Speaker 7>The place I spent a lot of time coming up

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<v Speaker 7>during the summers to see Chicago Cubs games, and I

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<v Speaker 7>fell in love with the city.

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<v Speaker 6>I fell in love with the people up here. That's one.

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<v Speaker 6>Number Two.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe in the structure that we have in place,

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<v Speaker 7>from George to Kevin to Ryan, there's gonna be complete

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<v Speaker 7>alignment in everything that we're doing. I love the team

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<v Speaker 7>that Ryan's already assembled, and we'll look to continue to build.

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<v Speaker 7>And finally, I wanted to stay in this division. I

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to be in this division. This is a good division.

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<v Speaker 7>Three teams made the playoffs. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>respect for the talent and the coaches that are in

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<v Speaker 7>this but anything worth doing and fulfilling, it's the hard

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<v Speaker 7>thing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the hard way.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I embraced this challenge of being in the

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<v Speaker 7>NFC North and I can't wait to get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, Ryan, one of Bryan Poles's famous lines

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<v Speaker 1>that I grab onto all the time. I live it.

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<v Speaker 1>The hard rate is the right way. So you're a

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<v Speaker 1>glutton for punishment. I guess it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>A heck of a division.

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<v Speaker 1>What about when you got here, the welcome committee, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire building showed up. You come out with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of energy. Your family's with you, your three kids, your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>your youngest daughter staring up. I was just enamored with that,

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<v Speaker 1>she was. How did that make you feel?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll be honest, I was not expecting that. I

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't expecting this place, this facility, the people within it.

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<v Speaker 6>There's an energy right now that I really can't put

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<v Speaker 6>into words. So I know this.

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<v Speaker 7>I know my family is so happy right now to

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<v Speaker 7>see the potential of where we're going and the people

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you're gonna get asked a lot about vision.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your vision for this franchise?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean our goal, our goal is to win,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's going to be to win now, and so

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<v Speaker 7>that's going to be stressed early and off into our group.

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<v Speaker 7>What we put on tape for this franchise is we

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<v Speaker 7>want a physical team. We want a detail orient team

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<v Speaker 7>that's great at situational football, and we want an explosive team.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's gonna be on both sides of the football.

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<v Speaker 7>Three phases to be honest with you, along with special teams.

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<v Speaker 7>And really, when we're talking about setting the culture, which

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<v Speaker 7>is going to be step number one here in the springtime,

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<v Speaker 7>accountability and integrity are going to be the cornerstones of

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<v Speaker 7>everything we're going to be about. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>a team first mentality from starting to finish. Our players

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<v Speaker 7>are going to understand the staff is going to be

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<v Speaker 7>there to support them. There will be consistent communication and structure.

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<v Speaker 6>And.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, at the end of the day, there will be

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<v Speaker 7>a level of discipline that they're looking to embrace here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can picture myself as one of the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>players that will be here and this will be your

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<v Speaker 1>first team meeting. That's right, You'll be standing in this room,

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<v Speaker 1>the George muggs Haallis Auditorium. I'm similar. The message will

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<v Speaker 1>likely be similar. But how power empowering is that when

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<v Speaker 1>you get in front of a group of guys and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>follow me, we're going to learn how to win.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no question I think this is every player. Every

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<v Speaker 7>player wants consistency and they want to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>get better. And that is what I plan on doing

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<v Speaker 7>and the staff that I bring in, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 7>going to be tasked to do, is to get every

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<v Speaker 7>player on this team to be the best versions of

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<v Speaker 7>themselves and to elevate this team to winning football consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the media always focuses on the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach quarterback relationship, and that's one of the fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the most important position in all of sports.

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<v Speaker 1>So the enticing aspect of working with a young quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>with a bountiful amount of talent, how is that with

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think standing on the opposite sideline from him

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<v Speaker 7>this year, I gained a tremendous amount of respect for

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<v Speaker 7>not only the talent level that he possesses, but also

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<v Speaker 7>the type of person he is leading that huddle. I

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<v Speaker 7>know it was a rocky rookie year for him, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm excited to help grow and together this offense and

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<v Speaker 7>the pieces. I want to be clear, it's not just

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<v Speaker 7>Caleb I am. I am so fired up to work

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<v Speaker 7>with him, but there are so many great pieces to

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<v Speaker 7>the puzzle already in place. This defense gave me, gave

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<v Speaker 7>me trouble the last two years. I stayed up at

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<v Speaker 7>night trying to find ways. I think the red zone.

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<v Speaker 7>We couldn't score touchdowns in the red zone. They got

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<v Speaker 7>after us. And it seemed like almost every single time

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<v Speaker 7>we played the Chicago Bears when I was in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 7>that came that game went down to the wire.

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<v Speaker 3>A few teams did. Yeah, you know, they were outstanding

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<v Speaker 3>at it. So you mentioned other players, the skill they got.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore got from Dunsay, you got Cole Comet, you

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<v Speaker 1>got DeAndre Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a sample size.

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<v Speaker 1>It is your offense, an offense that is adaptable to

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of kind of skill.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's not my offense. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 7>really I like to fancy it the quarterbacks offense. We

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<v Speaker 7>are going to tailor this right around Caleb Williams. It

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<v Speaker 7>will not be necessarily, but you've seen from from me

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<v Speaker 7>the last three years. It's gonna we're gonna find out

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<v Speaker 7>exactly what our quarterback does well, and that's really what

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to anchor on. And then the supporting pieces

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<v Speaker 7>around him, we're gonna look to accentuate those as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So the different looks the same and the same looks different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where you heard that one before? My old friend, Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>John shop. We'll talk about John Shoop at another time.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that guy. What does that all mean?

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<v Speaker 7>What that means is we want we want to keep

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<v Speaker 7>defenses on edge, all right, when you're on an offensive perspective.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want them to know exactly what's coming multiplicity

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<v Speaker 7>formationally schematically to where uh, when they see one formation

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<v Speaker 7>and they're expecting one play that they saw on tape.

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<v Speaker 6>They get hit in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds simple.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's simple.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds simple and the most complicated game I think

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<v Speaker 1>when people break it down. If you are sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>a team meeting or a room to break down one play.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had coordinators tell me, yeah, I can sit in

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<v Speaker 1>a room and break down one play for eight hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>saying there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No way, but yeah, that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been described as creative, We know that, fearless, no nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Are these some attributes and adjectives that you would agree with?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, Listen.

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<v Speaker 7>I've every step of my journey, whether it was quality control, position, coach,

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<v Speaker 7>offensive coordinator, I morphed into a world that would make

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<v Speaker 7>me the best at that particular job, and every step

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<v Speaker 7>along the way tight ends coach.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh see, the last few years, it's whatever that job required.

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<v Speaker 7>And so this new job is a completely different skill

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<v Speaker 7>set and responsibility, and so I will find exactly what

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<v Speaker 7>it takes to excel in this new role.

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<v Speaker 1>How excited are you to work with Ryan Poles, his staff,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Warren, mccaskey's everybody in the build.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, they blew me away on the interview. I spent

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<v Speaker 7>time just alone with Ryan on that interview and then

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<v Speaker 7>in a group setting with all of them, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>clear their commitment to build a sustained winner here in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Ryan's done a phenomenal job already accumulating talent

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<v Speaker 7>here in this building. And I can't be more excited

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<v Speaker 7>about George and Kevin and the support that they're willing

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<v Speaker 7>to give us and the resources they're willing to give

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<v Speaker 7>us to get this thing going.

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<v Speaker 3>The familiarity you touched on it within the division? Is

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<v Speaker 3>that a positive?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you faced everybody before for the last many years.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no doubt, And once again I have tremendous amounts

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<v Speaker 7>of respect for all the coaches and players already in

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<v Speaker 7>this division. But really, as a competitor, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 7>to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>As a young kid growing up now I have this

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<v Speaker 1>correct Asheville.

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you have imagined this day?

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<v Speaker 6>No? Absolutely not, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 7>Like like I said, I grew up watching WGN Chicago

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<v Speaker 7>Cubs with my little brother and to see that one

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<v Speaker 7>day I would land in that city as the head

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<v Speaker 7>coach of the Chicago Bears, it just gives me goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 3>And it hasn't been without challenges.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a time where you didn't you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what you were going to be able.

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<v Speaker 6>To do Oh yeah, right, yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the adversity that you know everybody's got some

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<v Speaker 1>YEA was at it.

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<v Speaker 7>There's always hills and valleys every journey that you take.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, when I got let go from Miami seven

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<v Speaker 7>that was twenty eighteen, it took me a while to

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<v Speaker 7>land back on my feet. I worked so hard to

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<v Speaker 7>climb the ladder there in that organization. And then when

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<v Speaker 7>something you love, which was the game of football, gets

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<v Speaker 7>ripped away from you, it hurts, it leaves it leaves

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<v Speaker 7>a hole in your soul.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was I was so.

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<v Speaker 7>Fired up just to get the opportunity to start over

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<v Speaker 7>again and work hard, put my head down, and fortunately

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<v Speaker 7>good things happened.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, And the last question, what's your message to

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<v Speaker 3>the fans.

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<v Speaker 7>Message to the fans is we are completely committed to

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<v Speaker 7>building a sustained winner here. We are going to have

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<v Speaker 7>high standards, but we're also going to have high level

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<v Speaker 7>of support for these players. The bar is gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>every time they step into the building so high, because

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<v Speaker 7>that's the only way we're gonna push. We're gonna challenge

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<v Speaker 7>these players to become the best versions of themselves along

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<v Speaker 7>the way, though, we're going to provide them the necessary

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<v Speaker 7>resources to.

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<v Speaker 6>Hit those goals.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>In best of luck, Yeah, thank you, Jess.

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<v Speaker 1>So we touched on some of it, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>marry it with the news conference. Tom wants to be physical,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be explosive, situationally sound, and he really appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>being asked in his Zoom with the Bears about specific

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<v Speaker 1>game management situations. They put them in a position a

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do here ABCD, and he said that

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<v Speaker 1>was unique to other interviews he's had over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years for a head coaching job.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly that was a aig, a big necessity to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get somebody who can handle those situations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's imperative.

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<v Speaker 1>It is how you forge ahead in this very difficultly

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be great in game management situations.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you know how timely that you put together an

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<v Speaker 4>answer for a difficult question and you're not necessarily expecting.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that tells you a lot about a guy,

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 4>whether you're face to face or in zoom. And if

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<v Speaker 4>you say the exact answer that they want to hear

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<v Speaker 4>without hesitation, they know that. Listen, they are on the

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.239
<v Speaker 4>path of the right person. And so when you have

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<v Speaker 4>some of these questions out of the ordinary, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's really beneficial to every one of those guys sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that's precisely why. Okay, so you don't

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>want somebody to be rehearsed. It's not the combine when

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>agents get their players and they're going to ask you, ABCD,

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's what your answer is going to be.

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>He spoke from the heart at that podium. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not like some prepared gript right. And the more he spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was with me individually or at that podium

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>for the first time as the head coach of the

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.199
<v Speaker 1>charter franchise of the National Football League, you could feel

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 1>his intensity rising. You could feel his answers becoming more compelling,

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was more in you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get that same impression I did?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I liked about it, Jeff, about the

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<v Speaker 4>whole interview between you and he and when he was

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:32.239
<v Speaker 4>at the podium with the media, is he understands the

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 4>energy of the city of Chicago by going to a

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 4>baseball game, and it's not something that you have to

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 4>be sitting in the stands. But you can feel it

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 4>when you're walking around the neighborhoods. You can feel the

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<v Speaker 4>passion of the Chicago fan base for all of their

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<v Speaker 4>sports and all of the support that we have in

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 4>the city. And he understands how an organization like Detroit

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 4>can go from the bottom to the top. And we've

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 4>seen it ourselves going to the stadium a couple times

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<v Speaker 4>a year. So I'm really happy that Ben Johnson was

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<v Speaker 4>exposed to the passion of the fans of the Bears

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 4>and the fans of sports in the city of Chicago

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<v Speaker 4>to understand his role and the importance of success in

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<v Speaker 4>Soldier Field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he only sat in the bleachers. That's where

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>he goes. Sits in the bleachers. You can't get anybody

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that's fantastic.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Can any better feel of passion and been sitting in

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 4>the bleachers and whatever. Wherever you go in sports, wherever

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 4>around the world you may go to a game, it's

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 4>not always sitting here in the high dollar seats. It's

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 4>sitting in the seats with the real fans in understanding

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 4>how they feel about their city, about their sports teams.

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 4>And if he comes in here and he's the never

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 4>he's the next playoff winning head coach for the Chicago Bears.

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna feel at first hand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to WADO in Sylvie the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and they had Mike wilbon ont speck for him, the

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<v Speaker 1>journalist and writer and TV star, and he said, if

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it was him, he'd encourage him to seek out some

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<v Speaker 1>of the greats of our city, members of the eighty

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>five Bears. Go have dinner with them, Go have a

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 1>cup of coffee, Go get a feel for what this

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>city's all about. Go go have dinner with Michael Jordan.

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Good luck getting that reservation right with Michael or any

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>number you know. But he's already done it in a

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>matter of manner of speaking, by being a Wrigley Field

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>fan over the last decade or so and growing up

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<v Speaker 1>watching WGN television and watching Cubs games and sports on WGN.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Asheville, North Carolina born and bred, University of North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>walk on quarterback. It seems to me this was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit Chicago was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>for this young guy.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember in the interview you asked him if he

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<v Speaker 4>could imagine as a little kid in Asheville, North Carolina,

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 4>that he'd be sitting here today, and he said, no,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would like to hear some of the conversations

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 4>as the teenagers between he and his brother, when the

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of started feeling or realizing what your future is

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna be. And then the first time that you really

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 4>hooked into that fish and you go, oh my god,

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 4>it's got me, It's got me, and it's never gonna

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 4>let me go. You swallowed the hook of football and

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 4>you're still on that line. So I got to imagine

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 4>some of those conversations with the brother of to where

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 4>you're at now has got to be amazing.

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0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.280
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0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.359
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0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.720
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0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the thirty sixth annual Chicago Bears Coat Drive help keep

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Chicagoans warm this winter. Ryan Poles really focused on the

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>progressive offensive mind as Johnson and his quote mind toward

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>innovation things you've touched on. But I think he also

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<v Speaker 1>was enamored with this no that there are going to

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>be high standards, there's going to be discipline. He's going

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to push these players and challenge these players, these same

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>players of which many are the leaders that went and said, hey,

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to be challenged first and foremost Caleb Williams

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and held accountable. And I did talk with Caleb one

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>on one. We'll hear that on our next episode and

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>also on their Bears Weekly show on Thursday night on

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>ESPN Radio one thousand. This is what they've been asking

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for and he's going to deliver it to him some

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>terms that we've heard from other coaches. You know, be

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with the uncomfortable. It's the same thing that Kevin

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Warren speaks of. I am a big proponent and I

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>said it in the interview. You know, Ryan Poles has

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>sat a long time ago. The hard way is the

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>right way, and I do subscribe to those concepts. Life's

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>not simple, and you got to go through the heart

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to get to the end and to become a winner.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>In all walks of life, nothing's easy, no linear path.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It is not simple, especially in this sport, in this

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>league where there are so few that make it to

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the final, the final game, which is the Super Bowl,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and so few have won that game at that quarterback

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>position or at the head coaching position. So I get

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a kick out of those I don't know, you're I

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're that type of guy.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're just.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're you're about Yeah, it's you and I are

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>different in that regard because you're an athlete and I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me, you know, make reference to one of the

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 4>points when they brought up the repeated word by a

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 4>lot of guys in the postseason, of accountability, and he

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 4>talked about reference to accountability and what it means to

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 4>a team. But it's also realizing that the message of

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 4>accountability is going to come from the leaders inside the

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 4>locker room. And I do think it's super important to

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 4>make sure that you have those guys who are accountable

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 4>and they're held accountable by other players, either at your

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 4>position or leaders inside that locker room. And that's what

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 4>needs with the leadership of Ben Johnson in this coaching

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 4>staff and Ryan Poles and Kevin and George and everybody,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 4>that has to be the message that started today from

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 4>the podium and carries a tremendous amount of weight throughout

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 4>the entirety of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, I wish you were here to see the expression

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>on Caleb William's face when he sat down. He's very relaxed,

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>seems refreshed, re energized. After that season, it may have

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>been one of the more toughest seasons we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>A quarterback go through.

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<v Speaker 1>And it had to be emotionally draining, physically draining, spiritually draining.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Because you don't get a break as the number one

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>pick in the NFL Draft. You go right back to

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>work from after playing your college season. You never really

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>find time to breathe. He had a moment to breathe,

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and now he's going to dive in deep. But he

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>seems ready to take on that challenge.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, for Ben Johnson, for Caleb.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 4>So the hardest part for Caleb is over going through

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 4>that first year. Now it's Ben Johnson understands the template

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 4>that he has to develop and mold into the quarterback

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 4>that he ultimately sees winning a division and winning the

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl. And I think any coach that was recruited

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 4>by a lot of professional teams, he was most excited

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 4>about the key position in place, and that's Caleb Williams.

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, It's almost like a Bob Ross painting. When

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 4>he paints the background, you can't tell what it it's

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 4>going to be, and then a half hour later it's

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>one of the prettiest pictures that you could ever imagine.

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 4>And you can't believe how talented the guy is. And

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a little bit about Caleb. You got

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 4>that base coat down, now let's paint the picture of

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 4>his future success.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So he told the media that gathered to speak with

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>him here at Hallisa quote, he told me, it will

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>be my offense and build it around me. What kind

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of weight does that carry for Caleb now that he's

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>got that green light.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, you understand the athleticism you're dealing with.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 4>You understand the accuracy that you have. You understand the

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 4>courage inside the pocket that you're going to start developing.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 4>You understand the assets and the move, the ability to

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 4>throw on the move. This is not a thirty six

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 4>year old Jared Golf. This is a twenty something young

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams that has his future ahead of him, and

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 4>he's got all the athleticism in the world, all the

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 4>arm talent in the world, all the vision, the intelligence

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 4>that you need.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 5>So that's what I'm saying.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 4>You're developing just the base of a canvas, and eventually

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>it's it's gonna be an an ultimate you know, just

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400
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<v Speaker 1>So to roll up your sleeves time where Ryan Polls,

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson and everybody else in the building to now

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>secure the right group of coaches to take care of

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the job, the positions, the coordinators and whatnot.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think there's going to be a lean towards

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>experience that will help a first time head coach.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's wise and smart.

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how that's all going to play out

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in the end, but they're actively doing that right now.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>And in other cases, with Aaron Glenn leaving now Detroit

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>going to the New York Jets as their head coach,

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Detroit's gonna lose, lose some things, some players.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>There's going to be coaches leaving beyond just.

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Those two coordinators, So you know you're you're somewhat weakening

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>your opponent right out of the gate with this decision

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to bring Ben Johnson here and the removal of Aaron

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Glenn who did such a great job with a depleted

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>defense and kept them viable right through the bitter end

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>into the NFC divisional loss.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that's a key ingredient of getting Ben

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Johnson Ben Johnson hired right now, is to make sure

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>that he can get into that pool of really good

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 4>assistant coaches and get him hired as quickly as possible.

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Detroit also lost their defensive line coach, was a highly

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 4>prized possession that's going to New England.

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 5>So if you can.

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Get on that board, get a board. And I'm sure

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Ben Johnson has had a lot of coaches in mind

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 4>for you know, the last couple of years, considering he's

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 4>been one of the key candidates to become an NFL

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 4>head coach, and so hopefully a lot of those pieces

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 4>have already been in place. Now you have the opportunity

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 4>to go out there and offer them a Chicago Bear opportunity,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 4>and I hope they capitalize on it. And he puts

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 4>together a staff that gets into that building and starts

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 4>putting implementing their plan together. And like he said, he's

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 4>going to have a big role on offense, but now

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 4>he's head coach, he's going to have a role on

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 4>defense and special teams as well. So you're going to

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.479
<v Speaker 4>have to efficiently divide your time up and make sure,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 4>like you said, I'm going to get an offensive coordinator

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 4>that I have one hundred percent trust in that can

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 4>set the table and then we'll work it from there.

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<v Speaker 1>For savings and service get more with Geico put also

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>something into focus. Obviously, he was a North Carolina quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>a walk on, as we indicated and then developed a

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship with. At that time offensive coordinator at North Carolina

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was John Shupe, someone we became quite familiar here with

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, two thousand and three for the Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>now coaching in Europe, still coaching, talk about or really

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a grinder, that's exactly who John Shupe was. Bears went

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs on that one season that was our

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>first season together as play by play crew with Hubarcish.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a wonderful season.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a playoff season and we got to know him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to know him in a way that fire.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was very intense, but he's the one

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>who encouraged Ben to get into coaching. So that's what

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>he did. Grad assistant in Boston College. Happened to share

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<v Speaker 1>the same little tiny office with Ryan Poles did as

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<v Speaker 1>a grad assitizen a year prior, which is kind of fascinating.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And then three years there in Chestnut Hill, including a

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:01.959
<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven as tight ends coach. So then seven years

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami he was offensive assistant, assistant quarterbacks coach, tight

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>ends coach, assistant wide receivers coach, wide receivers coach. That's significant.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of different coaches and exposures that you

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>saw there. Then he went to Detroit with Dan Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a time when he didn't work because you

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<v Speaker 1>heard in the interview I did with him, didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen with his career. So that

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>was an adverse situation that he got through. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also is a grinder.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You could tell from talking to other people about him,

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and that also is he's all about ball is no nonsense.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>He has already set the standard and the bar for

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>what this team is going to be expected to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are in that position Tom for the first time,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>they make statements and this is how we think we're

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>going to be. But you always hear it takes a

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>while before the culture is set or the identity of

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the team. I believe that that's almost already set. This

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is he laid out the game plan of what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's familiar with the Bears. He's been preparing

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 4>against these guys now for the last few years. He

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 4>understands the division. He understands what he's up against when

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 4>he's facing the defense of the Green Bay Packers or

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 4>the defense of the Detroit Lions whomever they hire, or

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Minnesota Vikings. So he's so far ahead of the hiring

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 4>process that most of these guys have been in our

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 4>lifetime that he can already see the future and he's

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 4>got to look at the horizon. And the thing about is, Jeff,

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 4>what have we known one hundred assistant coaches throughout our career? Yes,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 4>every one of these guys are grinders, man, because it

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 4>is not an easy life. You got to be willing

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 4>to pick up and move every year two or three.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 4>And so when Ben Johnson finally, ultimately through all this

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 4>hard work and grinding, gets an opportunity, it's not a relief.

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 4>The pressures on. And I'm encouraged by what I hear

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 4>out of him about what he sees for this team

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and what he imagines for the immediate future.

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<v Speaker 2>What's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You had some of the NFL writers, the national experts

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>on the NFL theorizing or kind of predicting, well, does

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he really want to stay in a division that has

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<v Speaker 1>three of the best teams in football, three playoff teams

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>coming from Detroit included, to come to the Bears, a

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>team that has struggled here over the last fifteen years,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, is he going to go a different path?

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>And this guy had no interest in doing anything but

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>staying right where he is. He wants to face the

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<v Speaker 1>best and he wants this challenge. This is what he wants.

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, let's I mean, we're not going to talk

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 4>about him, but you take every other job in consideration

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 4>that's open, and you think of the pieces they have

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 4>in place as opposed to the pieces they have in

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 4>place here in Chicago.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 5>You get interviewed on Zoom and then all.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 4>Of a sudden you're driven into Hallis Hall and it's

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the taj Mahal of facilities in the NFL. Everything that

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 4>you need to make your football team the best team

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 4>possible is right there in front of you down nineteen

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 4>twenty Football Drive. And so don't paint a picture that

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<v Speaker 4>this site is a better place for you to be

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 4>than where you're at. The decision you made and where

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 4>you're at. Sell me on some other team and I'll

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 4>debate it with you.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of notes real quick here all four conference

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<v Speaker 1>championship teams. Tom, I don't know if you've heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero turnovers in the playoffs. You think ball security is

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be number one goal this weekend? I didn't

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it's the thing that surprises me about

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 4>it is in some of the outdoor games that they

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 4>played in already that it's it's surprising that ball security

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 4>was not an issue in some of those games. The

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 4>only time the ball security was when Mark Andrews unfortunately

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 4>dropped the two point conversion. But does that mean it's

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 4>an offensive league or the these are offensive teams that are,

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, fighting for the championship because I kind of

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 4>look at a team like Philadelphia. Philadelphia kind of reminds

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 4>me of the eighty five Bears because they have an

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 4>experienced defensive coordinator Vic Fangio and Buddy Ryan. Then you

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 4>have a quarterback that statistics aren't gaudy, but they have

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 4>a running back who's a Hall of Famer. They have

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 4>an offensive line that could be considered one of the

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 4>best in the NFL, and they have a defensive line

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 4>that can go toe to toe with them. I look

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 4>at them and even and if you look at you know,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Hurts has two touchdowns, McMahon had two touchdowns. Jalen

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Hurts is sixty something percent. McMahon was fifty nine percent.

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 5>So if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at the comparative, the comparisons right now of a

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 4>team that has the opportunity to do what Philly could

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 4>possibly do. It reminds me of the eighty five Bears.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting look at you. Nicely done, nicely done.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>What about the other side of the fence, AFC.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to deny that one of the greatest players

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<v Speaker 4>in the history of the league. And Patrick Mahomes always

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 4>has an idea. He always he's already thinking faster than

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 4>all the other guys on defense. To me, Josh Allen

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 4>has an opportunity to put himself on that next shelf,

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily the shelf of Patrick Mahomes or Brady and

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 4>those guys, but he certainly is an incredible quarterback and

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 4>he's got these guys into a battle for their life.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 4>To me, I still what haunts me and we talk

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 4>talked about it. Sixteen carries last week for Derrick Henry.

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 4>You should be ashamed of yourself. He averaged five point

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 4>eight or five point three yards per carry. If you

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 4>didn't go into the game and the head coach said, look,

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 4>offensive coordinator, he's going to carry the ball thirty times

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 4>or don't come back in the locker room sixteen times

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 4>In that game. That's why you're at home, and that's

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 4>why Buffalo is moving on.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson named MVP.

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 5>He deserves it.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 4>He is the most one of the most incredible football

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 4>players I've ever seen amongst a group of star athletes

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 4>in the greatest sport in America. And Lamar Jackson deserves it.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 4>He's He's just an incredibly talented young man.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple other nuggets. This was from The Sun Times

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pottash. In Ben Johnson's three years as the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, the Lions were fifteen and fifteen when allowing

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty three or more points. That's the most in the

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>league in that span and second best winning percentage during

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that same time Fame, the Bears did not win any

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty five games that that happened to Oh

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>in twenty five. That offense gave you a shot to

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<v Speaker 1>win when your defense, you know, did what they could,

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes because of injury and whatnot, they couldn't hold

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the other side.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. That's a crazy stat to.

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<v Speaker 5>Ben Johnson press conference today.

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<v Speaker 1>Because like that, oh my goodness, and then the Lion

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>season ended. What for Mike you said four or five

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>days ago, is They've lost Ben Johnson, the lost Aaron Gunn,

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>they lost Terrell Williams. Patriots defense and their offensive line coach.

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Hank Fraley, they say, is in the mix for the

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks offensive coordinator job or who knows what other jobs?

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the biggest surprises in my football life thinking

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 4>of Hank Frayley as an offensive coordinator, because I remember

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 4>him well as a player. I see him on the

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 4>sidelines and walking laps before the Detroit Chicago Bears games.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 4>And he doesn't give you that appearance, that template of

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 4>an offensive coordinator because you know of his background of

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>being an undersize thicker, middle thicker in the middle offensive lineman.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 4>But if he gets the offensive coordinator job, I wish

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 4>the best for him and I wish.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 5>Him all the success in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Tom, the offensive line there, they don't want

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 4>to let him go.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 5>They're fighting for.

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 2>It, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you get a good offensive line coach,

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to hard to want that man to leave.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>There's some great ones, including the Philadelphia is stout They

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.479
<v Speaker 1>call him stout right, Jeff Stoutlin. Outstanding offensive line coach

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 1>there in Philadelphia, really good offensive lineman in this particular

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>final four of the NFL and that's going to be

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a big focus obviously for the Bears, that in the

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive line. So we'll be looking forward to breaking it

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>all down next week. Again, we'll have Caleb Williams on

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the podcast I sit down with him. Hope to have

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>general manager Ryan Poles as well. Until then, Bears Weekly

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday night in the ESPN one thousand for town There,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Joniak.

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening.

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