Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? What's up Batchel Nation. As you can
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Speaker 1: I have notes in front of me. Rachel's here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna break it down because there is a lot that
Speaker 1: went down this episode, and you have to have notes
Speaker 1: because you need to keep it all in order because
Speaker 1: it's like, where do we even start from? I mean
Speaker 1: it we saw a telenovella, but that should be the
Speaker 1: theme of this season. It's his own soap opera. Yeah, so, Rachel,
Speaker 1: before we get started, I do have to say we
Speaker 1: have a very special guest coming in while calling in
Speaker 1: later this afternoon, with the wonderful mister Higgins. He cannot
Speaker 1: get rid of me, which is why we forced him
Speaker 1: onto our podcast today, and so we're so excited to
Speaker 1: break it down with him and to get his point
Speaker 1: of view on this season so far, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: he will have plenty to say. We're gonna have the poke, Ben,
Speaker 1: because you know Ben likes to be straight line, politically correct.
Speaker 1: This is not what this show is about. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: a happy hour, you know, take one back and let's
Speaker 1: get into it. I really want to know what he
Speaker 1: who would he be going for right now if he
Speaker 1: was Peter, because everyone compares the two. They're like Peter's
Speaker 1: a mini Ben, and so I really can't wait to
Speaker 1: get his take on these ladies and see if he
Speaker 1: was in Peter's shoes, who he'd be going for. So
Speaker 1: far before that, we see this episode kickoff and the
Speaker 1: beautiful Santiago Chili. Now, Peter still has ten women remaining,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's more than that just because
Speaker 1: there's so much drama. So we still have Hannah Ann,
Speaker 1: Kelly Kelsey, Madison McKenna, Natasha Sidney, Tammy, Victoria f and
Speaker 1: Victoria p. Now again it feels like more than ten. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you name more than ten people there.
Speaker 1: But it starts off with Hannah Anne getting a one
Speaker 1: on one. Now Is that just me or were you like,
Speaker 1: did she already have one? I could have, so I
Speaker 1: would have put money on it. I thought Hannah Ann
Speaker 1: already had a date. I honestly don't know what season
Speaker 1: I'm watching. There's just been so much going on there,
Speaker 1: really has maybe because she's stolen him so many times,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's all added up than most of
Speaker 1: these women, that's for sure. Um. I was watching this
Speaker 1: and the way it kicks off is so Peter joins
Speaker 1: the girls at a bar, and I don't think on
Speaker 1: when I was on the Bachelor, I don't think we
Speaker 1: ever had a setup like that. We're real, we could
Speaker 1: all just kick it and be out in public and drink,
Speaker 1: and then he just showed up and grabbed someone. So
Speaker 1: I was kind of jealous. I'm like, man, I wish
Speaker 1: I was with these girls right now and what have
Speaker 1: you know? Show up? But um, yeah, he takes Hannah Ann,
Speaker 1: and like you, I feel like we've just seen more
Speaker 1: of her because I think she's just been so confident
Speaker 1: in all the group dates. I mean we've had, we've
Speaker 1: had a lot of model esque dates that she's you know,
Speaker 1: kind of stolen the showing because that's that's what she does.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think in my mind this data on
Speaker 1: this city. I think it was a good date. It
Speaker 1: seemed like a normal date. Like there wasn't a ton
Speaker 1: of like glitzingle am in hype, There wasn't any helicopters
Speaker 1: or private concerts. It just seemed very chill. I will
Speaker 1: say that those type of dates I love. They were
Speaker 1: always my favorite dates because it's not there weren't a
Speaker 1: lot of distractions. You now, you weren't doing all these
Speaker 1: crazy things. It's a real life thing. You're exploring this
Speaker 1: new city, this new country with someone you really care about,
Speaker 1: and you're doing it together. I loved those when I
Speaker 1: was on the batchelor, I loved it, and I loved
Speaker 1: it on the batcherette. And I would always usually take
Speaker 1: someone that I really really wanted to get to know
Speaker 1: on those dates because there's so much time to talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what he needed from her. I
Speaker 1: think he needed her to just open up and not
Speaker 1: be this like cute girl that's how he's smiling and
Speaker 1: happy all the time, because that's not a relationship. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: so well then that was a bust. If that's what
Speaker 1: he wanted. That was a bust because then night rolled
Speaker 1: around and she didn't have shit to say. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I feel like I still don't know much of her,
Speaker 1: Like she has this one on one time and there's
Speaker 1: not more. You know, we've seen dates like, for instance,
Speaker 1: with Kelsey where she opened up about her her parents
Speaker 1: divorce and how that kind of like shaped her into
Speaker 1: the woman she is today, or we you know, we've
Speaker 1: always had these stories and now I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: somebody needs like this whole sob story or this life
Speaker 1: changing story, but just something to give us more of
Speaker 1: who they are. And I felt like I didn't get
Speaker 1: that and this was so frustrating. So we've seen her,
Speaker 1: We've seen her. I have all this personality, whether it's
Speaker 1: in front of a camera or walking down a runway,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people say is their issue with
Speaker 1: Instagram models or models. It's like they have all this personality,
Speaker 1: but then you talk to them in person and there's
Speaker 1: really nothing there, so no offense to anybody. So when
Speaker 1: I when he asked her very direct questions, she cannot
Speaker 1: answer them, And to me, that is a red flag.
Speaker 1: I saw all the red flags waving all around Hannah
Speaker 1: Ann and her face and then he gets up in
Speaker 1: frustration because he's not getting anything from her, and she
Speaker 1: starts crying and he's like, this is what I needed.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Peter, she hasn't said anything yet unless
Speaker 1: this was edited and we just didn't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't understand because Peter was like, that's what I needed.
Speaker 1: A tear. I mean, was she pinching herself to make
Speaker 1: herself correy? I don't understand what was behind her tears.
Speaker 1: She did not explain that we got nothing from her,
Speaker 1: and he said he got everything he needed, right. I
Speaker 1: think there's a difference that sometimes and I don't want
Speaker 1: to say just men, but people do they confuse like
Speaker 1: emotion and tears for depth. And it goes back to
Speaker 1: us questioning like is Peter asking the right questions with
Speaker 1: these women Like he's it's like he's trying to pull
Speaker 1: teeth to get a straight answer. And my problem with
Speaker 1: not only Hannah Ann, but with some of the other girls,
Speaker 1: and trust me, I'm going to get into this as
Speaker 1: we go on to the next one on one, but
Speaker 1: it seems like they don't truly know what they want
Speaker 1: and what in themselves or in a relationship. Like you
Speaker 1: go on the show and you think you know yourself
Speaker 1: and what you want, and then they're like thrust into
Speaker 1: this spot where you know, it's like a future ahead
Speaker 1: of them and an engagement looming, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: form this relationship and they don't truly know who they
Speaker 1: are and what they want in a partner in a relationship.
Speaker 1: And that's where my frustration is. It's and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Hannah Ann is immature. I'm not saying, yeah, Kelly
Speaker 1: did say that, but and I don't want to, like
Speaker 1: I want to get to know these people individually to
Speaker 1: say like, Okay, you're immature or mature. I think just
Speaker 1: based upon her age, yes, she's young, a younger girl
Speaker 1: in the group, like she's only twenty three. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that she's probably not ready because Becka m on
Speaker 1: r Season was only twenty two and she got so
Speaker 1: much Flackford seeming young and immature. But look at her now,
Speaker 1: like she shot out to baby because she's my favorite,
Speaker 1: one of my favorites too, and she's so mature. She
Speaker 1: has a lovely child who just turned one, she has
Speaker 1: another baby on the way, She's in a very loving, committed,
Speaker 1: loyal relationship, a respectful relationship. So she like, I don't
Speaker 1: think the age number always is the problem. It's just
Speaker 1: I think like mindset, and I think Peter's asking for
Speaker 1: something from Hannah Anne, and she thinks he's asking for
Speaker 1: like emotion and tears and something more than just a smile,
Speaker 1: when really he's like, no, I actually want to know
Speaker 1: what you want. Yeah, And she couldn't give it to him.
Speaker 1: She just looked at him. She's perfectly curated. I'm over
Speaker 1: Hannah Anne. At this point, she gave him nothing. She
Speaker 1: those tears were because she thought she was going to
Speaker 1: go home, point blank period. That's why she couldn't talk
Speaker 1: about what was behind them. She thought she was going home.
Speaker 1: He gives her a rose. A rose. I don't understand why. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we miss something, but I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't think we did, because I think they would
Speaker 1: have shown it. So I don't get his relationship with
Speaker 1: Hannah Anne. It's very superficial at this point. There seems
Speaker 1: to be no depth. She gave us nothing. I'm onto
Speaker 1: the next person. So well, then go on to the
Speaker 1: Lovely Group date the telenovela, which I will say was
Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite dates I've seen. I would
Speaker 1: have loved to have been part of this. I just
Speaker 1: it just seemed fun, creative, Like I loved all of
Speaker 1: these girls and their personas because like I mean McKenna
Speaker 1: with the maid, like, poor girl, she cannot get a
Speaker 1: break right now. She wasn't everything, and I wish she
Speaker 1: would have made more of it, like you see her
Speaker 1: kind of in the back Dustine, and I wanted more
Speaker 1: like she could have played that up so incredibly much.
Speaker 1: But some of the girls did great. I will say
Speaker 1: Kelly as the Boila, that was good. It was so
Speaker 1: good and like it was kind of the cringeworthy moments
Speaker 1: where it's like they're talking about like dating. It's just
Speaker 1: like the moments that you love on the show. We're
Speaker 1: in this like telenovella, soap opera. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: who else, No, they were great. I thought I loved
Speaker 1: dates where we get to see their personalities come out,
Speaker 1: and there's always that one date and usually it's in
Speaker 1: the beginning, but in the middle of it, just to
Speaker 1: see the girls have fun with it and kind of
Speaker 1: just be so light when everything has been so heavy.
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought that that was fun. But I
Speaker 1: guess they were just a little bit too inspired by
Speaker 1: by that telenovella because they took it off the set
Speaker 1: and back into the house with them. Yes, the drama continues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Peters season just needs to be his own telenovella because
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. Yeah, and this is what
Speaker 1: I don't understand, y'all, Like listeners, if you're listening, write
Speaker 1: us in on this, because I don't get how there's
Speaker 1: always the one contestant who falls for this shit, Like
Speaker 1: how do you always get to be the one who's
Speaker 1: talking shit about every single person? And you become that girl?
Speaker 1: Like you see it coming, you watch the show and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, mate, if I ever go on the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelorette, don't be that girl. And then there's always
Speaker 1: that girl. It happens. I don't know if they're doing
Speaker 1: it because they know they're not going to make it far.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're trying to create a storyline.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're trying to get to paradise.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I'm upset that it's Tammy. Though
Speaker 1: at the beginning, Tammy was one of my favorites, and
Speaker 1: she had so much promise and now she's just like
Speaker 1: on a mission to eliminate women and her new victim
Speaker 1: is McKenna. Right yeah, I think it's an easy victim,
Speaker 1: like because McKenna's she's praying on the week at this point,
Speaker 1: right yeah. And I will agree, I had so much
Speaker 1: hope for Tammy, And I said it last week, where
Speaker 1: like I was rooting for her, and in the beginning,
Speaker 1: I think Tammy offered in the beginning, like this great
Speaker 1: combo of a little bit of SaaS and she'll she'll
Speaker 1: say it like it is, but then she still like
Speaker 1: would check in on the girls if they were having
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw it with Kelsey when Kelsey was
Speaker 1: crying by the pool, she kind of tried to like
Speaker 1: go and what's going on, like talk it through, and
Speaker 1: obviously she didn't get anywhere and we saw how that went.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's and I don't know if it's like
Speaker 1: she's trying to this is her Batchelor and Paradise interview
Speaker 1: or what where she's just trying to to, you know,
Speaker 1: get to a certain point because she knows, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: she knows it's not her. She knows that Peter and
Speaker 1: her relationship isn't where it needs to be, so it
Speaker 1: continues obviously, And gosh, the part where Peter is trying
Speaker 1: to have this moment with Madison and he's you're just
Speaker 1: hearing the screams from the house above. I'm just like, uh, like,
Speaker 1: the best kind of cockblock moment is right there? Two
Speaker 1: girls fighting. Yeah, Tammy and McKenna. I'm so sorry. It's
Speaker 1: just poor McKenna. That's all. That's all I have to
Speaker 1: say about Ken. Tammy knows exactly what she's doing. But
Speaker 1: the real drama was Victoria. Now, I was proud of Peter.
Speaker 1: This is a proud moment. I was too, because the
Speaker 1: first time that I've seen him be really matter of
Speaker 1: fact about something. I told you, Victoria Pee, there was
Speaker 1: always something that was just a little off to me,
Speaker 1: called it when it comes to her. And I don't
Speaker 1: think I think Peter in the moment, okay, sends a
Speaker 1: lat home. All right, fine, I still got Victoria Pee here.
Speaker 1: I think he went back and really processed what happened
Speaker 1: and thought about it, because from the moment he sat
Speaker 1: down with her, he was not into hers, not into it,
Speaker 1: not like what we've seen with him and her in
Speaker 1: the past, and I kind of wished he would have
Speaker 1: addressed that. He just kept saying, do you see a future?
Speaker 1: I don't see you as my wife. But I wanted
Speaker 1: him to be more confrontational. I wanted him to say,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why I don't see you as
Speaker 1: my wife, and it's because of how you handled this situation,
Speaker 1: or because I just don't trust you, trust you, And
Speaker 1: that's not what he really did. But I am happy,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give it to him. He sent her home, yes,
Speaker 1: and people watching and say, well, oh, he sent a
Speaker 1: Laya home last week before the Row ceremony. But had
Speaker 1: all of the women not called him out and addressed
Speaker 1: it and told him their frustration and where their hurt was,
Speaker 1: I think he would have kept a layer around. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he finally did this on his own terms.
Speaker 1: I think he needed it. I think that I have, okay,
Speaker 1: my problem now with Victoria Pee and now that I
Speaker 1: have a problem, but I just I felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've seen it season after season where clearly doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: The lead always walks you out. They give you that
Speaker 1: respect to say goodbye. You kind of talk it out.
Speaker 1: You you have that moment. I always have a problem
Speaker 1: where somebody is like better than that and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't need you, I don't need your help. I
Speaker 1: find it. So Chris ran down on my season said
Speaker 1: that to me, I was like, well, walk you out
Speaker 1: even though it's not working out, Like I'm still going
Speaker 1: to respect you, and the time that you put on
Speaker 1: the show. You don't want to walk him out, that's
Speaker 1: that's part of the show. So well I did because
Speaker 1: I wanted him to go so I could go to sleep.
Speaker 1: But that's like, I guess to what And I definitely
Speaker 1: want you to finish your point, But it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: what's so disrespectful into what you're saying. I don't even
Speaker 1: really want to walk you out. It's just like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be nice, so at least accept me being nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she and we saw like in that moment there
Speaker 1: was that switch where maybe it was like her guard
Speaker 1: went up and it was just a way so she
Speaker 1: doesn't like feel about hurt in that pain in front
Speaker 1: of him. But I just like Peter is still like,
Speaker 1: even though it's not working out, he's still trying to
Speaker 1: respect you. He's still trying to be that gentleman and
Speaker 1: walk you out and see you out and so give
Speaker 1: you that closure a little bit. And in that moment
Speaker 1: you saw something and switch where she's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: having this, like I can walk myself out. She's walking
Speaker 1: in front of him. I don't know it just it
Speaker 1: really rubbed me the wrong way. And we all go
Speaker 1: into this show knowing that there's only going to be
Speaker 1: one and so the odds really aren't probably in your favor.
Speaker 1: So in that instance, I was like, okay, like we're
Speaker 1: seeing a new side to her. Been seeing it. You've
Speaker 1: been calling I really have needless to say. I'm glad
Speaker 1: Victoria Pia's home and it's giving me promise that Peter
Speaker 1: is starting to eliminate the drama and focus on some
Speaker 1: of the more serious relationships, and I think that that's
Speaker 1: the point of the season that we're in. So also,
Speaker 1: when you're in the house, you're starting to reflect on
Speaker 1: who's had one on one date? Where's my relationship with Peter?
Speaker 1: As you're seeing the numbers dwindle down, and you have
Speaker 1: to start thinking, Okay, Tammy hasn't had a one on
Speaker 1: one yet. Tasha hasn't had a one on one yet,
Speaker 1: neither has McKenna, So you know, at this point they're
Speaker 1: kind of like, where do I stand compared to these
Speaker 1: other ones? Right? So then Peter has a chance to
Speaker 1: give another one on one. Doesn't give it to Dammy
Speaker 1: mckenn Natasha. He gives it to Victoria. F Were you shocked?
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I blew my mind when they read
Speaker 1: her name. I was like, what he either sees something
Speaker 1: in her or he's really questioning do I keep her
Speaker 1: around after everything that went down on their very first
Speaker 1: one on one. I just to insert a little bit
Speaker 1: of my experience. I remember on The Bachelor, we Lauren
Speaker 1: Lauren b had a date with Ari in Paris, and
Speaker 1: the week after she got the second one on one,
Speaker 1: and it was right after my one on one, and
Speaker 1: I remember coming home and I walked into the room
Speaker 1: and all of the girls were like dead silent. It
Speaker 1: was super awkward. I was like, what did I miss?
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, well, Lauren Lauren got the second
Speaker 1: one on one day and I was like, she just
Speaker 1: had one last week, and in that moment, I was shocked.
Speaker 1: But I was even shocked for this one. I think
Speaker 1: after all of the interaction that I've seen with Peter
Speaker 1: and Victoria f and just like the drama that just
Speaker 1: kind of follows, and like the extra time and care
Speaker 1: and attention and all of this effort Peter seems to
Speaker 1: be putting into her. I would have wanted a break
Speaker 1: if I was him personally. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. And this is what I have all of
Speaker 1: my notes written about. Oh this is this one on
Speaker 1: one day. I'm sure it's the nighttime because not much
Speaker 1: happen in the in the daytime part of it, right,
Speaker 1: like they do their thing whatever. I don't even want
Speaker 1: to get into that. Let's just get into the nighttime
Speaker 1: portion because that's when that's when that's the juicy part.
Speaker 1: That's that isn't. Yes, Like I just don't understand why
Speaker 1: she wasn't. She just did not seem appreciative of the
Speaker 1: date that he gave her a second one and one.
Speaker 1: She did not seem into it and him it's like
Speaker 1: she I feel like she's questioning like where her feelings
Speaker 1: actually are, but she doesn't want to like admit them,
Speaker 1: like maybe I'm not as into you or maybe like
Speaker 1: it's not like there's something off and she she made
Speaker 1: a comment and they wrote it down. Because this is
Speaker 1: what stood out to me the most was I wish
Speaker 1: I knew my issues so that you didn't have to
Speaker 1: deal with them. It's like, then, why did you come
Speaker 1: on the show with the potential? Because Rice was on tour,
Speaker 1: he was gone, he was out of office apparently. But
Speaker 1: it's like, know yourself before coming on the show. Well,
Speaker 1: that could be a theme for several women. But my
Speaker 1: frustration with her I share your same sentiments. I thought
Speaker 1: you are so ungrateful. Yes, there are women sitting in
Speaker 1: this house who have never had a date, and you
Speaker 1: were complaining about getting a date. Now I do a
Speaker 1: second date, a second date. You're right, And I do
Speaker 1: get you saying, oh gosh, he's maybe he's putting you
Speaker 1: on a second day because he doesn't know, but he
Speaker 1: reassured you so many times. She is that girl who
Speaker 1: needs to constantly be told I'm you're pretty, you're great,
Speaker 1: you're wonderful, instead of having that own confidence, which I
Speaker 1: just don't. I just her own confidence. I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: Actually I do think I understand her. She just doesn't
Speaker 1: know who she is and what she wants. She's all
Speaker 1: over the place. And what I don't understand is, Peter,
Speaker 1: you want a woman who's confident, you want a woman
Speaker 1: who knows who she is. That's what you say you
Speaker 1: liked about Hannah by Victoria f has shown you none
Speaker 1: of that. So again, I don't know what Peter wants
Speaker 1: in a wife because you are constantly having to baby
Speaker 1: her and coddle her and reassure her. As you have said,
Speaker 1: that is exhausting. And that's the only word I can
Speaker 1: think of when I think of their relationship. It's and
Speaker 1: I've never and I've watched the show for a while,
Speaker 1: I've never seen one lead put in so much reassurance
Speaker 1: to someone to the point where it's like that cannot last.
Speaker 1: Like in my mind, there's no way that that can last.
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna he's gonna get to his breaking point
Speaker 1: and be like, I can't, Like, what else do you
Speaker 1: have to say? Like, and he has said multiple times,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a rose unless I
Speaker 1: see something, unless I feel it, like unless I know.
Speaker 1: And so she keeps getting roses, she keeps getting roses.
Speaker 1: He's giving you you should be more sure because remember
Speaker 1: there's a point in the show where Sidney and um
Speaker 1: Tasha are sitting on the couch and there's saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he really must be into Victoria hockey. Everybody see it,
Speaker 1: but you, you, more than anyone, should know that Peter's
Speaker 1: into you, and not just because of the dates, because
Speaker 1: he's telling you that he's giving you all the reassurance
Speaker 1: that you need. It's so frustrating to watch. I am
Speaker 1: so sick of her. I'm so sick of seeing her cry.
Speaker 1: I am sick of watching her goal on date well,
Speaker 1: and I just it's disrespectful to not be able to
Speaker 1: give Peter answers when he's asking you direct questions. I
Speaker 1: feel like she just keeps saying I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. So it's like, how is Peter going to know?
Speaker 1: He's not a mind reader? But then to get up.
Speaker 1: This isn't the first time we've seen this with her
Speaker 1: on a date. She gets up and she walks away,
Speaker 1: and she cries and she leaves him. And in this process,
Speaker 1: time is of the essence, like you need to make
Speaker 1: the most of it and you can't keep having these
Speaker 1: moments or these these like fits where you you can't
Speaker 1: handle it and you can't handle like answering the questions,
Speaker 1: and you walk away, and she's saying, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to be here. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And Peter can't even hear that, and he's
Speaker 1: talking to produce and he's saying, I don't know. She
Speaker 1: doesn't want this, so send her home. If you are
Speaker 1: questioning this, it's this late in the process. You have
Speaker 1: so many women who want you. That again shows how
Speaker 1: into her he is. Send her home. Two roses should
Speaker 1: not have been given out on this episode, Hannah, Anne
Speaker 1: and Victoria f It is very clear that if you're
Speaker 1: saying you want these things, these women don't possess those
Speaker 1: qualities from what we've seen. I'm sorry, I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: But what does Peter do? Gives her a rose? Gives
Speaker 1: her a rose, and then and then and then we
Speaker 1: see something that, to my knowledge, I have never seen before,
Speaker 1: no plot twist two on one, which I don't even think.
Speaker 1: We got a two on one in Hannah by season
Speaker 1: a two on one at a cocktail party. I thought
Speaker 1: this was genius. You know what, Thank you, Bachelor producers.
Speaker 1: Let's streamline this process. We don't need a whole damn
Speaker 1: date for this, let's just do it at a cocktail party.
Speaker 1: I will say I would have loved having the two
Speaker 1: on one at a cocktail party. I would You don't
Speaker 1: need a full day, And usually when you pick a
Speaker 1: two on one, you kind of know the two people
Speaker 1: that you're like, m they're probably gonna go home, Like,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, we've seen it happened multiple times where
Speaker 1: both people end up going home, so you I mean,
Speaker 1: I watched it knowing like, Okay, yes he gave McKenna
Speaker 1: the rose, but I was like, she's not sticking around.
Speaker 1: You just you can sense it. And the moment where
Speaker 1: you see the girls, the two girls walk in and
Speaker 1: sit on the couch, I felt like I was watching
Speaker 1: the telenovella once again. I was like, they're gonna start
Speaker 1: like spooning out their scripts, and that's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was transported back to their group
Speaker 1: date because it was just so awkward clearly between them.
Speaker 1: They just like McKenna talks about you know, love, winds
Speaker 1: and kindness and she's stronger and then Tammy's just not
Speaker 1: really saying much at that point, and it was just
Speaker 1: one one big mess, one big two on one mess
Speaker 1: it was. I loved how it was set up. I
Speaker 1: am proud of McKenna for standing up for herself against Tammy,
Speaker 1: because Tammy's Tammy stuff. So I was happy that she
Speaker 1: stood her ground. She said her piece and it worked
Speaker 1: for her. And Peter said, I trust McKenna over Tammy,
Speaker 1: and sant Tammy home. Now this is what was sad
Speaker 1: to me. Tammy made a comment when she was going
Speaker 1: home and said that he just wants a trophy wife
Speaker 1: and I'm not a trophy wife. That hurt me to
Speaker 1: hear Tammy say that because I understood Tammy after once
Speaker 1: she made that comment. I understood her entire actions through
Speaker 1: this entire process. She is extremely insecure. She is confident,
Speaker 1: and she's got her job, and she's ambitious and all
Speaker 1: of that, but she's got some serious insecurities when comparing
Speaker 1: herself to the other women. And she even said, I
Speaker 1: guess he wants that blonde something trophy. It let me
Speaker 1: know that probably growing up she has compared herself to
Speaker 1: women that don't look like her, and she felt like
Speaker 1: a minority in the house, which she is, and she
Speaker 1: felt like I felt like the younger self in her
Speaker 1: coming out when she was making those comments in the car,
Speaker 1: and it was actually really really sad for me to
Speaker 1: watch because I think Tammy is so beautiful and she
Speaker 1: has so much going for and it just seems I
Speaker 1: said this when I was on Next Season, the house
Speaker 1: brings out the best or the worst in year, and
Speaker 1: it seems like it really brought out the worst in
Speaker 1: Tammy and she just fell victim to her insecurity. So
Speaker 1: if Tammy lives inst our podcast, I want her to
Speaker 1: know that you are so beautiful, You are so so
Speaker 1: many things going for You. Don't feel like you have
Speaker 1: to compare yourself to what a stereotypical version of what
Speaker 1: beauty is like. Beauty is so many different things. Beauty
Speaker 1: is in the eye of the beholder, and I want
Speaker 1: her to know that she's a beautiful person. And it
Speaker 1: was so sad for me to sit there and watch
Speaker 1: that Peter didn't send you home because you didn't have
Speaker 1: blonde hair. Peter sent you home because you lost your
Speaker 1: ship in that kind because you had it out for
Speaker 1: the other girls. And in that moment too, it's kind
Speaker 1: of said because she doesn't have to get along and
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to be best friends with the remaining girls, like,
Speaker 1: no one is saying that, but but it kind of
Speaker 1: degrades the other women that are still there, and in
Speaker 1: that moment, it was tough. I will say, though, I
Speaker 1: still have hope for Tammy. I would love to see
Speaker 1: her in Paradise, but like I want her to have
Speaker 1: that redemption story. I want her to maybe form better
Speaker 1: friendships there than she could on this season, because I,
Speaker 1: like you said, I think she kind of spiraled out
Speaker 1: at the very end when she knew it wasn't her.
Speaker 1: So maybe we will, maybe we'll see more of her
Speaker 1: and she can have that redemption story if you want
Speaker 1: to call it that. Yeah, I mean, well, listen, she
Speaker 1: can only go up from here and hopefully that happens
Speaker 1: to her in Paradise with some other Bachelor franchise show
Speaker 1: or just a really over it and just realized I
Speaker 1: don't think she is. I don't think she is at all.
Speaker 1: But we have the rose ceremony, and I was shocked
Speaker 1: by these eliminations. I did, like, I didn't know who
Speaker 1: was on the chopping block. I thought maybe it was Tasha,
Speaker 1: just because Tasha hasn't had a one on one and
Speaker 1: so he hasn't been able to grow his relationship with
Speaker 1: but then he reassures her in that private time, so
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, my girl, Tasha, she's gonna be safe,
Speaker 1: and she is. But he sends Sydney. I was surprised
Speaker 1: at that one. Now, but we said Sydney and him
Speaker 1: have a physical relationship and it doesn't seem to be much.
Speaker 1: Death seems to be a running theme with several of
Speaker 1: the women here, but obviously that was the case because
Speaker 1: he sends her home. Yes, and that's That's the only
Speaker 1: thing I can think of is that he had this
Speaker 1: moment where he of course, you have to compartmentalize all
Speaker 1: the relationships and tear them out in a way. But
Speaker 1: I think he realized, like, she's beautiful, I'm super attracted
Speaker 1: to her. We have this chemistry, She's this amazing kisser.
Speaker 1: But what's beyond that? And I would love to ask
Speaker 1: him and pick us brand. I can only assume from
Speaker 1: everything that we've saw that that's what it was. But
Speaker 1: hit it and quit it. Sadly, McKenna and Sydney are
Speaker 1: no more. Yeah, girl, girl, I feel sorry for you
Speaker 1: because Peter gave you false hope. But girl, you knew
Speaker 1: you weren't going far past that two on one, right,
Speaker 1: it was the end of the road. I thought he
Speaker 1: was going to cut on both in that two on one,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, no, no, no, it was It
Speaker 1: was the end of the road, poor McKenna. And it's
Speaker 1: the end of the road for our recap as well.
Speaker 1: So let's get to our cats and rats of the week.
Speaker 1: There are some cats and some rats. Okay, so my
Speaker 1: cat for the week is McKenna. Even though she went home,
Speaker 1: I was really proud to see her stand up for herself.
Speaker 1: I thought what she said when she went home was beautiful.
Speaker 1: She really seems to have found her voice, even though
Speaker 1: it's it's sad because it's late. That was the end.
Speaker 1: That was the last thing we were going to hear
Speaker 1: from her, at least on Peter's season. But I was
Speaker 1: proud of her. I like to see people stand up
Speaker 1: for themselves. And my rat, I mean, it's gotta go
Speaker 1: to it's Tammy. It's Tammy. You know, she lost herself.
Speaker 1: I feel bad again what I said. What I said,
Speaker 1: and imant it, but she really had it in for
Speaker 1: praying on certain people and I didn't like that side
Speaker 1: of her. So I agree. I would agree with both
Speaker 1: of those I would also say, just because he gave
Speaker 1: me some comedic relief. Um my cat was Kelly as
Speaker 1: the a boiler Kelly, because that was good. She she
Speaker 1: did well, she nailed that role. And then my rat,
Speaker 1: I would say, Tammy, it was just as much as
Speaker 1: I wanted her to not be. You know, we saw
Speaker 1: go down, we saw the drama, we saw her kind
Speaker 1: of spiral out. So hopefully again paradise that redemption story.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see some more of her. We used
Speaker 1: to love Tammy, loved Tammy all right, so much hope.
Speaker 1: Let's pour one out for Tammy and McKenna. All right,
Speaker 1: So next week it's looking like it's gonna be good
Speaker 1: these previous ones. Don't you film this week? I mean
Speaker 1: this season more than ever. The previews you hanging on
Speaker 1: the end of their seat, yes, or your seat, your seat.
Speaker 1: Garrett were watching the preview together and he's like he's
Speaker 1: literally grabbing my leg and squeezing and they're like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, what what what? What? What? He's waiting, This
Speaker 1: is Garrettson. He's waiting for the moment when Barbe comes
Speaker 1: back on, when she's like, just bring her home to us,
Speaker 1: Like that's what He's like, who is she talking? We
Speaker 1: know when that's coming. That's gonna be the last episode. Yeah, Becca,
Speaker 1: that was a lot to digest. You had your notes,
Speaker 1: we had opinions, we had an outline. We had a
Speaker 1: lot to get into. But we have been waiting on
Speaker 1: the line. We have the wonderful mister Ben Higgins, Ben welcolcome.
Speaker 1: First time on the show. Yeah, first time guest, not
Speaker 1: first time caller. Big fans of you both, be gotcha.
Speaker 1: Flattery will get you far here, Ben, So we appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Ben smooth um. Yeah, Beca, I can't shake you. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna be spending a lot of time
Speaker 1: together soon. Yeah, for three three whole months everyone. So
Speaker 1: you know, Ben and I just spent a week together
Speaker 1: in New York doing press for Bachelor Live on stage,
Speaker 1: so we and you know, we've talked about The Bachelor
Speaker 1: at length. So I can't wait to share some of
Speaker 1: the insider tidbits that we've been you know, bouncing off
Speaker 1: of each other and talking about. So here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to have you here. Oh let's do it. Yeah, Ben,
Speaker 1: don't hold back, Like, let's just get at it. I
Speaker 1: just go there's a lot to talk about this season,
Speaker 1: like off the top, are you enjoying it or not?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like people have mixed reviews about this season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think I've put a lot of
Speaker 1: thought into this in my life, and I think we
Speaker 1: went into this season with insanely high expectations. Peter is
Speaker 1: a good dude, he's a nice guy. We want to
Speaker 1: see him succeed, we want to see him flourish. The
Speaker 1: women from really Week one kind of captivated us because
Speaker 1: they were a little bit dramatic, they had intense storylines,
Speaker 1: and so I think all of us as fans went
Speaker 1: into being like, this is going to be the greatest
Speaker 1: season ever. And I can't say it hasn't been. I
Speaker 1: just don't think we've gotten there yet. We haven't yet
Speaker 1: seen a love story. But I'll tell you this because
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on and on, I'll keep
Speaker 1: these short. This was the week and I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly why. Maybe we can find out why, but this
Speaker 1: was the week for whatever reason. I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: watch next weeks Like this is the first time I've
Speaker 1: been Oh, I can't wait till next week's come out.
Speaker 1: I hadn't had that feeling yet, but after these two episodes,
Speaker 1: now I'm on edge waiting for that next episode to
Speaker 1: come out. Before before we keep going, I think someone's
Speaker 1: really upset that we didn't introduce them. We do have
Speaker 1: another co host here as well, Minno is joining us
Speaker 1: in bastlor Happy Hour, and Minno we apologize. That's why
Speaker 1: she continues to bark because we did not acknowledge her
Speaker 1: presence in the podcast. So Minno, we Minno, don't worry.
Speaker 1: You will have your shine. Yeah, she's a diva, she
Speaker 1: needs to be heard. But but Ben, so going into
Speaker 1: this season, I think people I think, you know, we're
Speaker 1: excited to see Peter, but for a specific reason and
Speaker 1: because they say Peter is much like a younger version
Speaker 1: of Ben Higgins. And I think I think people saw
Speaker 1: that because you guys are both very sweet. You just
Speaker 1: seem to have big hearts and kind souls. I think
Speaker 1: from the more that I get to know you and
Speaker 1: the more that I get to see of Peter, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessary agree. I think you guys handle things very
Speaker 1: very differently. But I talking about this week and I
Speaker 1: just think, like, Okay, if Ben was now in Peter's shoes,
Speaker 1: what would he do, who would he gravitate towards? How
Speaker 1: would he handle the drama? And so putting yourself in
Speaker 1: Peter's position this season, so you had this whole new
Speaker 1: group of girls, how would you handle some of this
Speaker 1: conflict and drama that's going on? Good question. Well, I've
Speaker 1: always said, you know, it's it's great. I think one
Speaker 1: thing that Peter and I have in common, and I
Speaker 1: think what you and Rachel had in common also based
Speaker 1: on your successes. I think we all went into it
Speaker 1: knowing what this is. Right. It's it's an experience, one
Speaker 1: that will have ups and downs, one that at times
Speaker 1: will be dramatic and I'll make you want to pull
Speaker 1: your hair, but ultimately, at the end of it, something
Speaker 1: good could happen, Like this could really shake up life
Speaker 1: in a beautiful way, especially if you find your partner.
Speaker 1: And I think all four of us in that we're
Speaker 1: speaking of right now had that in common. And I
Speaker 1: think if you have that, you're off to a good start.
Speaker 1: I think the second thing is the mark of a
Speaker 1: good bachelorat or bachelor, is how you handle conflict. Because
Speaker 1: conflict is kind of unseen a lot of times it's
Speaker 1: unexpected on this show. The one thing that we could
Speaker 1: knock Peter for is not how kind he's being, which
Speaker 1: is super which is super important here, or not how
Speaker 1: much he respects the women, which he obviously does. It's
Speaker 1: the one knock on Peter and I would say assume
Speaker 1: is he hasn't confronted the conflict to get rid of it. Instead,
Speaker 1: he's just kind of perpetuating the inevitable, which is that
Speaker 1: it's going to continue to get bigger and bigger and
Speaker 1: bigger until he has to put his foot down. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't have another option, and I'm hoping that over
Speaker 1: time we see him get better and better at that
Speaker 1: to ultimately get him where he wants to be at
Speaker 1: the end. But how I would handle this To answer
Speaker 1: your question, I think anytime conflict came up during my
Speaker 1: time on the show, immediately as soon as there is drama,
Speaker 1: as soon as somebody said somebody's acting a certain way,
Speaker 1: as soon as you heard an argument going on, my
Speaker 1: first reaction was to always try to pull away from
Speaker 1: it and analyze it, think about it, process it, put
Speaker 1: the pieces together so that I'm not just running into
Speaker 1: what everybody's saying or I'm not just running into the argument.
Speaker 1: I'm able to take a step back and look at
Speaker 1: the situation as a whole and try at that point
Speaker 1: then to navigate it to some place of healthiness. But
Speaker 1: in healthiness to me was just peace, peacefulness in the house.
Speaker 1: But I think right now Peter's one thing is he's
Speaker 1: just kind of running straightforward into it and then once
Speaker 1: he gets into it, it's impossible to get out instead
Speaker 1: of pulling away and analyzing the whole situation. One thing
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this Ben, as you know
Speaker 1: the mail on the line, and then Rich ask you
Speaker 1: this too. So when I was about Surette, you know
Speaker 1: it didn't happen all that often that this came up.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's always the moments where someone will
Speaker 1: come to you and and talk about someone else. They'll say, well,
Speaker 1: so and so did this, or they said that. It's
Speaker 1: happening so much with Peter. I think every conversation he
Speaker 1: has with the girls talking about someone else, and for me,
Speaker 1: that is just personally a huge turn off. And I
Speaker 1: want to know for you, when you were the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: if that happened, did you take it as okay? This
Speaker 1: girl's kind of you know, telling on this other girl
Speaker 1: and found it immature or did you appreciate it to
Speaker 1: kind of know what was going on and figure it
Speaker 1: out for yourself, Because when that would happen, I was like, Ah,
Speaker 1: don't waste your time talking about someone else to me. Yeah, Rachel,
Speaker 1: I really want to hear your thoughts here. But I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I you know, and this is going to
Speaker 1: get super Just deal with me here for a second.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get super Christian ease on you here,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to have to. So I have a
Speaker 1: principle in my life that I try to stick by.
Speaker 1: Do a terrible job at it, but I try to.
Speaker 1: And it's to not murder somebody's name when you're talking
Speaker 1: about them to somebody else, Like it is really important
Speaker 1: to allow them into the conversation when you have conflict
Speaker 1: or when you have an issue with somebody. And I
Speaker 1: believe the same thing principle goes to who I want
Speaker 1: my partner, like Jessica for example, right now, there has
Speaker 1: probably been there. I don't think there has been an
Speaker 1: occasion that I can think of in our year together
Speaker 1: that she has came to me kind of bad mouthing
Speaker 1: somebody else she might come to me and say, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just frustrated. I don't get it. You know this person,
Speaker 1: I'm just not understanding them. I feel like we're not
Speaker 1: in the same page. But there's never been this. That
Speaker 1: girl's crazy, like that girl's whacked out, Like that's never
Speaker 1: something that comes through her mouth. And I love that
Speaker 1: about her because it allows me to love that other
Speaker 1: person and respect the other person more. And so when
Speaker 1: that would happen on the show, I don't really love it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't like it, and it
Speaker 1: feels like it's setting that other person back without them
Speaker 1: ever having a chance to explain themselves in me. So basically,
Speaker 1: you don't like the season, because that is the whole season.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and put words in your
Speaker 1: mouth because we Rachel you your spot. I mean not
Speaker 1: that I don't like the season. Now, I watch this
Speaker 1: season because I'm entertained, like very entertaining. Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: your Housewives, and I'm a fan. I like, I appreciate
Speaker 1: the cattiness, but I feel bad for Peter. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like I'm not going to say I don't like
Speaker 1: this season as which just like I feel bad for Peter.
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, this is my take. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: and if unless Victoria comes through and shows herself to
Speaker 1: be like just or Hannah An maybe still which Victoria,
Speaker 1: if there's any other women there that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: being like you've shown yourself to be, you know, a
Speaker 1: partner for Peter. Oh, I'm entertained. But as somebody's been
Speaker 1: in the show before and somebody really likes Peter and
Speaker 1: wants to see this like go well for him, and
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated it's awkward to watch. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would want to be in the situation, you know. I
Speaker 1: will say though, I think Madison is a top contender.
Speaker 1: I think she's the first one who had the very
Speaker 1: first day with him, and now she's kind of fallen off,
Speaker 1: fallen off the radar a little bit, but I think
Speaker 1: that's only because they're kind of hiding not hiding her,
Speaker 1: but a little bit removed from the drama. But I
Speaker 1: think when they're together it's something really special. And she's
Speaker 1: the only one right now that I could really see
Speaker 1: wife potential. No no, Ben, when you and I were
Speaker 1: in New York together, we were kind of saying like,
Speaker 1: it's really tough to see someone for him right now,
Speaker 1: and it's really tough to see a bachelor at lead
Speaker 1: come from this group of girls right now. It's just
Speaker 1: it's hard to picture only because we haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: know them. For them, it's been so much around the drama.
Speaker 1: But I think Madison is one that, yes, she's kind
Speaker 1: of hidden and she's not in the limelight and the
Speaker 1: drama and the craziness right now, but I think that
Speaker 1: there's something there between them, and you know, we just
Speaker 1: haven't been allowed to see it because of all of
Speaker 1: the cattiness going on. Question. I always forget about Madison.
Speaker 1: You always always I always say this like Victorian Hannah,
Speaker 1: and and then somebody always goes, what about Madison. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that works. She's great. Um, we just haven't seen her.
Speaker 1: And Brian, if you're not messy, you're not getting sane.
Speaker 1: That's kind of theme the theme this season, right Like,
Speaker 1: as far as far as the women are concerned. Question, though,
Speaker 1: we talked about Peter's conflict resolution or the lack thereof,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't just seem to be just with Peter.
Speaker 1: It seems to be with the women as well, because
Speaker 1: they don't seem to be able to get along. There's
Speaker 1: just mean girls. Right now. Here's my thing, I think,
Speaker 1: and I know Peter. I get to speak with him.
Speaker 1: I think he's a really nice dude, and I think
Speaker 1: he really cares about this experience, and I think he
Speaker 1: really wants to see at work. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: great at conflict. I don't think he expected so much conflict.
Speaker 1: The one thing that Peter has is he walked into
Speaker 1: this this thinking this was going to be like a
Speaker 1: really magical like experience, and I hope it is at
Speaker 1: the end, but we all know that's not really nice
Speaker 1: while you're in it. It's not magical. It sucks sometimes,
Speaker 1: but it's not real life. And I know he came
Speaker 1: to you to seek advice, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you told him that or not. But I think the
Speaker 1: beauty the gifts in the Curse of Peter is that
Speaker 1: he is so optimistic that it's beautiful for this type
Speaker 1: of experience, but then he's not realistic about how this
Speaker 1: experience can also be. And I think that it's there's
Speaker 1: something that you said, Oh, you brought up a really
Speaker 1: good point about him not asking the right questions I
Speaker 1: think that's true, and that's a huge red flag for
Speaker 1: me when it comes to this season, because to be
Speaker 1: successful at the end of this you have to ask
Speaker 1: the right questions. Right If you're not asking those things,
Speaker 1: how are you preparing? Because I feel like no offense
Speaker 1: been But I feel like where the men really suck
Speaker 1: at this is that you guys get caught up in
Speaker 1: the world that you're in when you're on the show,
Speaker 1: and that you don't think about how does this work
Speaker 1: in real life? And I'm using general, not saying you specifically,
Speaker 1: And that's my fear with Peter. He is so caught
Speaker 1: up in this that are you thinking and asking the
Speaker 1: right questions of how this can work in real life?
Speaker 1: That is why I'm afraid now that he won't be
Speaker 1: successful on this show. When I said before he was gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, like have five women that he's into it,
Speaker 1: and it does seem that way, but it's not looking
Speaker 1: too good and he doesn't have a good crop of
Speaker 1: women to choose from. Sorry, people are going to say
Speaker 1: that I'm not supporting women when I say that, but
Speaker 1: I mean, but I agree, like the drama is distracting
Speaker 1: him to get to ask the right questions, like he
Speaker 1: hasn't just sat down and been like, Okay, I like
Speaker 1: you like me? Like how? Like where are you from?
Speaker 1: How do our lives combine after this? Like what are
Speaker 1: you looking for in your career after this? If if
Speaker 1: we'd end up together? And I will say, just from
Speaker 1: my experience, especially when I was on The Bachelor, that
Speaker 1: didn't come until my second, I think second or third
Speaker 1: one on one with Ari, when we were finally alone
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, this is now getting serious.
Speaker 1: And Peter is just not allowed to get to that
Speaker 1: point because of all of this chaos going on about
Speaker 1: champagne bottles and ex boyfriends and all of the all
Speaker 1: the things. Do you think Ben has been sorry? I
Speaker 1: did it? Ben? Peter been to point in Do you
Speaker 1: think Peter is a good judge of character? I think
Speaker 1: it's do I think he's a good judge of character
Speaker 1: in life? I do think he is. I think he
Speaker 1: is in when in this experience I think your spot
Speaker 1: on Rachel where he's caught up. I think it's hard
Speaker 1: to judge character at all when you're not being able
Speaker 1: to ask those questions, when every conversation we see is
Speaker 1: focused on somebody else and and this was not a
Speaker 1: small moment for me. I think it happened in episode five,
Speaker 1: and I believe it was with Sydney. I don't know
Speaker 1: if for certain, but there's this conversation that he was
Speaker 1: having with her, and she said to him, Peter, you
Speaker 1: don't know me and I don't know you, and you
Speaker 1: don't see that this far in the season. Quite often,
Speaker 1: I would say the first four weeks are like survival
Speaker 1: of the fittest, like just try to stay around, and
Speaker 1: then after that you really do start to know the
Speaker 1: other people or the people within the group. And I
Speaker 1: think she was speaking to something like every cocktail party,
Speaker 1: every group date, every time, like there is a moment
Speaker 1: for us to get together, there's something that pulls you away,
Speaker 1: something else on your mind, something else that you're trying
Speaker 1: to work through. Because this whole thing is so chaotic.
Speaker 1: There's so many different storylines going on of drama right
Speaker 1: now that I don't know, to go back to your
Speaker 1: question if he's had the chance to judge character or
Speaker 1: even get to start those questions that point to who
Speaker 1: somebody is, because there's never like getting to we don't
Speaker 1: know one person from this show very well, yet not
Speaker 1: one I would argue that we haven't had one like
Speaker 1: contestant that we are like all rooting for right now
Speaker 1: after someone on once. But can't you say that that
Speaker 1: means that he's kind of not a good judge because
Speaker 1: he is keeping the drama around, like he can't get
Speaker 1: to the root of it, of the person who could
Speaker 1: potentially be his wife, because he is keeping these people around.
Speaker 1: Like if I'm a female in that house, I would
Speaker 1: be questioning Peter at this point like why are they here? Oh?
Speaker 1: Why is she here? It's, you know the same way
Speaker 1: people did with Hannah Bright and Luke pe why is
Speaker 1: he here? I'm starting to look at you and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe you're not the best judge of
Speaker 1: the character. Yeah, And I would question and and we've
Speaker 1: seen the girls like, well, he's keeping so and so around,
Speaker 1: But she's completely different from I am. She's immature, she's
Speaker 1: fixated on some sort of drama. I would question, like
Speaker 1: what is he looking for? Like what is his type?
Speaker 1: What does he wanting a partner right now? It's confusing
Speaker 1: for us viewers. Kelly said it, That's why I'm like,
Speaker 1: I am Kelly, Kelly is me? Kelly's like listen I'm
Speaker 1: different from the women that are you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: in a different space in my life. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's why she seems so disinterested, because there's just
Speaker 1: such a disconnect with her and the other women in
Speaker 1: the household versus how she is in real life, which
Speaker 1: makes me think of this been when it comes to
Speaker 1: the franchise. I'm gonna get real general, big picture here,
Speaker 1: looking at the past few seasons and seeing where we
Speaker 1: are now. I know Becca and I've talked about this,
Speaker 1: and I bet you and Becca have too. We feel
Speaker 1: so far removed. Things just seem so different than when
Speaker 1: we were on the show. And the only thing that
Speaker 1: I can attribute that to are the people that are
Speaker 1: coming on this show. So do you are you fearful
Speaker 1: for the franchise? I think the longevity of cable television
Speaker 1: in general, we should be a little bit. Ben. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to let you that is the most politically
Speaker 1: correct answer. You are a politician. You are you are
Speaker 1: let me know when you're running for office, because you
Speaker 1: are good. Let me start there. So, um, two things.
Speaker 1: Am I fearful for the for the franchise? No? Here's why,
Speaker 1: because they've always adjusted. Well, if you look back in
Speaker 1: the history of this show, it is I don't know
Speaker 1: who's pulling those strings and who's making these decisions, but
Speaker 1: it is when I was the Bachelor, and I think
Speaker 1: your producers that are in that room who know the
Speaker 1: show well could speak to this. It was not an
Speaker 1: uncommon fear that this show wasn't going to be around
Speaker 1: a lot longer. They had had some really like rough moments.
Speaker 1: Social media still really didn't exist, like Instagram when I
Speaker 1: was on The Bachelor at was just coming out. That
Speaker 1: was six years ago at this point, So there were
Speaker 1: some huge hurdles and transitions that had to be made,
Speaker 1: and they made them. Like the show had never been
Speaker 1: bigger than ever over the last four seasons, and now
Speaker 1: you're getting to that point where it's at its peak,
Speaker 1: which ultimately it's cyclical. It's going to start dropping down again.
Speaker 1: So what a judge, Adjustments are going to be made
Speaker 1: to keep the show around. Now, I don't know what
Speaker 1: those are, but I do The Bachelor out of any
Speaker 1: show on television, and I don't get it has made
Speaker 1: adjustments to keep this thing going, and it's huge. It's
Speaker 1: never been bigger. So that's my first that's my first thing.
Speaker 1: The second thing is back to the show a little bit.
Speaker 1: Is I'm with you on you got to cut out
Speaker 1: the drama. But when we look at this show in general,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that dramas coming from. I don't
Speaker 1: know the route, and so I don't know where you
Speaker 1: take it out at unless you just send six of
Speaker 1: them home in one night. So anyways, am I fearful
Speaker 1: of the show? No, I'm not. Yeah, not the success
Speaker 1: of the show. The show is going to be successful.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. It has taken over a
Speaker 1: day of the week. I'm not concerned about that. I
Speaker 1: just more, maybe I should say the quality, because a
Speaker 1: lot of people seem to be so upset because like
Speaker 1: you want drama, like you said Survival of the Fitness,
Speaker 1: you want drama first night week one, two, three, or five.
Speaker 1: You usually get that two on one, and you start
Speaker 1: to see things changing and there is like no end
Speaker 1: to it at this point, what we're saying, and so
Speaker 1: that I guess that's what I mean. I hear I
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people even Super Bowl weekend,
Speaker 1: people want to come up to me and talk to
Speaker 1: me about the show and the general consensus as people
Speaker 1: are tired of the drama, and maybe more so also
Speaker 1: what we said at the beginning of this podcast, how
Speaker 1: Peter is handling it. Maybe that so it's frustrating. It's
Speaker 1: frustrating on both ends. I wonder, though, then, okay, with that,
Speaker 1: I can fully agree with you. I wonder if the
Speaker 1: secret sauce this whole show has always been and the drama, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: end in love, and yes, we are looking for a
Speaker 1: really cool ending that we can all celebrate and forget
Speaker 1: about all the drama together. We're quick, really quick to
Speaker 1: forget the negatives. I told Becca last week, it's not
Speaker 1: how you start, it's how you finish. And if Peter
Speaker 1: finishes in a love story, we're all going to forget
Speaker 1: all these little arguments and go, Wow, what a beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful thing that happened. Yet, the drama keeps us engaged.
Speaker 1: It does in all of our lives no matter what
Speaker 1: we're doing, if we're watching TV or we're at you
Speaker 1: out for cocktails with friends, drama keeps us interested, and
Speaker 1: drama will keep us around. Even if we want to
Speaker 1: complain about it, we still want to watch it well.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. We can complain week after a
Speaker 1: week and be like, oh my gosh, it's so hard
Speaker 1: to watch. These girls are crazy, like poor Peter. But
Speaker 1: we're still watching and everyone out there is still watching,
Speaker 1: so clearly it's doing something right. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. I feel like, once you get this like
Speaker 1: dose of this drama, you kind of have to keep
Speaker 1: it up now season by season, which makes me a
Speaker 1: little nervous for the future Boucher and Boucherrettes. But but
Speaker 1: once you have that and like you can't come down,
Speaker 1: I feel like everything after that's going to seem boring. Well,
Speaker 1: it is reality TV, right, Like we need a little
Speaker 1: bit of it, right, But I think what you said,
Speaker 1: Ben is so on point too about short term memory.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they'll just you just
Speaker 1: want to see a love story. It's just taken a
Speaker 1: little bit longer to get to than that. So Ben,
Speaker 1: do you even have a favorite lady on this season? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's tough, right, really really tough. I will say that's
Speaker 1: the hardest, Like this is the hardest season for me, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really went into this when we're just
Speaker 1: looking at pictures and being like, oh, this girl's beautiful,
Speaker 1: this girl's beautiful, and it's true beautiful season of people.
Speaker 1: But I do think the one that has has shown
Speaker 1: themselves to have the best like interactions just based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen is Victoria. I think Storia who Victoria?
Speaker 1: F Oh, let me make some notes while you're talking.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, Ben, I would disagree so wholeheartedly with you
Speaker 1: on that one. Right, Why we got to hear the why?
Speaker 1: Because we have to hear why we have to hear why? Well,
Speaker 1: I will get into it. I just every time I
Speaker 1: feel like they're together, there's no doubt about it. Like
Speaker 1: Peter is very drawn to her, he's very attracted. But
Speaker 1: I feel like she just in a way she handles
Speaker 1: and approaches situations, whether it's with him or the date,
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing, she just seems very very over the top,
Speaker 1: like she either is like all in or freaking out
Speaker 1: and there's like no, she just seems kind of exhausting.
Speaker 1: But I also think there's always an issue when she's
Speaker 1: with Peter. She's always upset about something. She starts to cry,
Speaker 1: she gets upset and walks away and leaves him, And
Speaker 1: I like, this is your right, the one that went
Speaker 1: on the uh that went on the date? Listen boyfriend? Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, Ben, I want to hear your
Speaker 1: logic as to how you see Victoria as the one,
Speaker 1: because Becca and I'm on the same age, Becca, so
Speaker 1: please please do case. Well, here's my case is. I
Speaker 1: do feel like Peter is the most comfortable with her.
Speaker 1: I do feel like he's attracted to her. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like we've had anybody kind of make his world
Speaker 1: stop at this point. I said it a little bit
Speaker 1: ago and I still stick to it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's even one right now that I've seen Peter
Speaker 1: just fully like be engaged with yet. I mean Madison
Speaker 1: kind of like week one, which is easy to do,
Speaker 1: and Hannah Ann has kind of walked on the perimeter
Speaker 1: through the whole show. I'm just saying, if there is
Speaker 1: one person that I've seen him have interaction with that
Speaker 1: could point to any type of future relationship, it seems
Speaker 1: like Victoria is it? Yet I don't hesitate to say
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a one, like I don't.
Speaker 1: I have yet to see it. Ben, I want to
Speaker 1: know if you were Peter right now, what girl would
Speaker 1: you have as as your top girl? If I was Peter, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's gone. I said, it was Sarah. See I think
Speaker 1: seemed like cool. She was like funny in a moment
Speaker 1: that we saw her, and then she was beautiful. I
Speaker 1: think just like at the very first night she was
Speaker 1: like at least somewhat like this is okay. This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about the men. You picked her because
Speaker 1: she's pretty. I mean, the girl didn't. We didn't see
Speaker 1: anything of her on the show. She's It's the same
Speaker 1: thing with Joe, grocery Store Joe, who I adore, But
Speaker 1: grocery Store Joe, you saw nothing of him and people
Speaker 1: went wild about him because they thought he was attractive.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Sarah. She's a beautiful girl.
Speaker 1: You saw nothing of her personality. Store Joe ended up
Speaker 1: being awesome and you're like, well this guy could You're right,
Speaker 1: but that's what we know now after the fact. At
Speaker 1: the time, what I'm saying is with Sarah, you can't
Speaker 1: point to anything outside of her being pretty. That's it.
Speaker 1: I said before the show even started, that was like
Speaker 1: who I went into this season like, she's just pretty
Speaker 1: like pumped up about so like now that be like
Speaker 1: who he's left and who he's captain, who's still around
Speaker 1: I don't think there is one person that would match
Speaker 1: me at all. It would be tough. Maybe well after
Speaker 1: you have the catch like Jessica. Of course no one can.
Speaker 1: Oh nobody even compares. And that's the closest thing that
Speaker 1: I've from what I've seen is Madison. Maybe you brought
Speaker 1: it up. I think Madison has shown to be like sweet.
Speaker 1: She was met his family and was like cool with it.
Speaker 1: She hasn't been involved in the other drama. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen her freaking out yet. I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: about her. We haven't got to know her too well.
Speaker 1: So I would say the one person right now that
Speaker 1: sits there, that's still on the show that would feel
Speaker 1: like the best fit for somebody like Peter would probably
Speaker 1: be a Madam. Just shocked that you said, well, I'm
Speaker 1: over Sarah, even though I'm still shocked at that. But
Speaker 1: Victoria f for you to be say that Peter can't
Speaker 1: handle conflict. She can't either. When he tries to have
Speaker 1: a conversation with her, she runs off and starts crying
Speaker 1: in a corner. I mean literally, she can't warm sentences
Speaker 1: to express how she feels unless she's confronting one of
Speaker 1: the girls in the house and then she's ripping them apart.
Speaker 1: That's what I don't understand the contradiction with her. You
Speaker 1: can tell a girl off and call her out, and
Speaker 1: then you become this meek, shy I can't express how
Speaker 1: I feel person in front of Peter, like, which one
Speaker 1: are you to me that the girl isn't? Honestly, I
Speaker 1: hope we find out who she is. Rachel. The truth
Speaker 1: to all this is, I don't think there's a favorite
Speaker 1: for me. Ben. You know you've mentioned do you and
Speaker 1: Peter have talked quite a bit. You gave him some
Speaker 1: advice in the beginning now halfway through, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you've talked to him recently within the past
Speaker 1: week or so. You know, it's different when you start
Speaker 1: the season and you're in the middle of it. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure Peter's in a very unique position right now
Speaker 1: where he's watching half of the season back and he's
Speaker 1: getting the world, the world's reaction about everything he's saying,
Speaker 1: everything he's doing, all of these girls like, he's getting
Speaker 1: a lot at this point. And if there's any advice
Speaker 1: from here on out for him to expect, what would
Speaker 1: it be Because he's he's in for a whild, right,
Speaker 1: I mean this is only halfway through and we haven't
Speaker 1: even gotten to see like the love stories unfold. So
Speaker 1: what would you say to him if he called you up? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'd say hold tight. I mean he's already done with this, right,
Speaker 1: so I would say, hold on tight. It's gonna get better,
Speaker 1: no matter what it was my you know, it's my
Speaker 1: same advice for anybody it's been on the show that's
Speaker 1: going through turmoil. I mean there's a couple of characters
Speaker 1: that we've seen last year, we spent or Hannah b season,
Speaker 1: We spent all year talking about Luke, and I thought
Speaker 1: that could get pretty ugly for him. I thought that
Speaker 1: would last a little bit outside the show. Most of
Speaker 1: the time, nobody unless your character is really, really really
Speaker 1: really be in question. If you make it to the end,
Speaker 1: which I'm hoping Peter does, he's gonna be fine. I
Speaker 1: would just say, hold on tight and continue to be
Speaker 1: who he is, continue to be kind, continue to answer
Speaker 1: the questions that he's doing. But on the show, what
Speaker 1: I really hope he does is he starts to really
Speaker 1: try to dive into who these women are and how
Speaker 1: they fit him and how he fits them and what
Speaker 1: relationships can be made because I don't I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that yet. I mean, we can sit here and we
Speaker 1: can argue about Victorian, we can argue about Madison and
Speaker 1: all these girls. The truth of it is, I don't
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you have a really strong opinion on
Speaker 1: who he should be with. Right now, I think most
Speaker 1: of the fans are going, I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: anybody like not that these women are bad, just like
Speaker 1: nobody seems to fit Peter that well. Right. I think
Speaker 1: that's very well said, Ben, and I think we all
Speaker 1: we are all you right now. We share your sentiments.
Speaker 1: And I remember Beck and I'm both talking about at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this season that we're so excited for Peter,
Speaker 1: even talking with Peter, talking to Peter's parents, were so
Speaker 1: excited for him. We feel like it's the thing that
Speaker 1: he's missing. He's got his job, he's got his family,
Speaker 1: his friends, all of that. He wants this, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as any lead I've ever seen. So I
Speaker 1: hope it ends in a love story. Hope it works out.
Speaker 1: Hope the tide is changing when it comes to how
Speaker 1: we're seeing his relationships play out this season. But we'll
Speaker 1: just have to wait until the next week to see
Speaker 1: how it goes. But I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to say except for Ben for governor. If I
Speaker 1: can bypass questions about the Bachelor, I think politics will
Speaker 1: be a lot easier. Can I switch roles here for
Speaker 1: a second and ask you too, who are you fans of? Like?
Speaker 1: Who should I be looking at and watching and going
Speaker 1: this could work? Well? Okay, yeah, I have I have
Speaker 1: my people that I like just for the comedic relief,
Speaker 1: and then I have the girls who I think are
Speaker 1: top contenders. I mean right now, and we've talked about Madison.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen very much of her other than the
Speaker 1: very first one on one date, But in a weird way,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can kind of relate to Madison.
Speaker 1: I feel like she is me in that scenario because
Speaker 1: I had on our season the very first one on
Speaker 1: one date, and then it was kind of I was
Speaker 1: kind of out of the picture. I wasn't part of
Speaker 1: the drama. I knew I had this strong connection, but
Speaker 1: it was a little bit removed. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's how she is. I do think that when they
Speaker 1: have their interactions. From what we've seen, she's one that
Speaker 1: he has a stronger one with. And maybe that's just
Speaker 1: given to the fact that she met his family and
Speaker 1: that just bonded them in a way that he hasn't
Speaker 1: bonded with these other girls. But I do. I am
Speaker 1: excited to see more of her. And in terms of Kelsey,
Speaker 1: I'm always up and down with Kelsey. I think that
Speaker 1: there's really something there, and I think that as we
Speaker 1: get to know her, she's unpeeling these layers and we're
Speaker 1: getting to know a deeper level aside from just the
Speaker 1: whole champagne Champagne gate and that drama. I think he's
Speaker 1: from what I've seen with her though, I think he's
Speaker 1: drawn to her, and I'm trying to. I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: When I watched their interactions, I try to pick it
Speaker 1: apart a little bit more and really like focus on
Speaker 1: what it is. I will say I'm intrigued by her
Speaker 1: and Pete's relationship. Yeah. For me, I like Tasha the best.
Speaker 1: I think she's funny, she's level headed, the girls seem
Speaker 1: to like her in the house, no drama. She's like
Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air to me. And then for Peter,
Speaker 1: I like Madison. I mean for the obvious. She seems
Speaker 1: to be no drama. I mean, I guess I could
Speaker 1: throw Hannah in in there, but Madison, I think there's
Speaker 1: a there's a spark there, and it seems very effortless
Speaker 1: when they're together. And this is just me going on
Speaker 1: the first off the first day, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. It seems very obvious he's in a Madison.
Speaker 1: So it makes me think that something's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Oh right, because it's so to me, it's so obvious
Speaker 1: it's Madison. Yeah, I can't take any more of this.
Speaker 1: Like Peter being happy, dancing around, smiling, like doing his
Speaker 1: goofy little dance thing, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: out of nowhere comes some young lady walking up, say Peter,
Speaker 1: you've got to talk right. It's like, Peter, is that
Speaker 1: a smile? Let me turn that? Let me turn that
Speaker 1: upside down? Because we've been As you're saying this, I
Speaker 1: have that image of in my head of him dancing
Speaker 1: on stage with Victoria f and he's got you know,
Speaker 1: he's doing this hands in the air thing, smile on
Speaker 1: his face, and it's like they pan out and it
Speaker 1: shows Chase Rice, just like in Victoria's singing the words
Speaker 1: I mean, it's poor. We we like to title each episode,
Speaker 1: and during that episode we titled that one poor Peter. Okay, Ben,
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Love having you on the podcast. But
Speaker 1: before we let you go, we like to play a
Speaker 1: game with our guests. Even though I felt like you're
Speaker 1: not you haven't really been a guest today. You've kind
Speaker 1: of been the fourth co host because obviously the third
Speaker 1: one is men. Oh. I don't want to say not
Speaker 1: acknowledge her again and have her star barking, but um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been fantastic. It's great to get your opinions and
Speaker 1: your take on the show, even though they were politically correct.
Speaker 1: We tried to poke you, but you were good. Whatever.
Speaker 1: We'll try again with this game. So here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this game with you and Becca because
Speaker 1: you guys, you know you got Bachelor Alive coming up
Speaker 1: so soon. I can't wait to catch it. But you
Speaker 1: are the perfect duo, well other than Becca and I
Speaker 1: of course, obviously, So okay, here we go. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw out questions and then you're gonna say, who's going
Speaker 1: to be doing this when I throw this out? Either
Speaker 1: Becca or Ben. All right. First up, who is going
Speaker 1: to sleep better on the tour bus? You? Becca? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh oh? I would say you, Ben, I can't sleep,
Speaker 1: Hey me, neither one of you can. Is that because
Speaker 1: you real tired after three months? It's because of the
Speaker 1: excitement of Bachelor Live on stage. You just can't wait
Speaker 1: to get to the next city. I actually heard the
Speaker 1: buses are super dry, and it's like the one thing
Speaker 1: I can't sleep in even though I live in Denver,
Speaker 1: but I have a huge humidifier in my house. That
Speaker 1: buses are super dry, So I'm worried that I'm going
Speaker 1: to always wake up like with the sore throw. Is
Speaker 1: it a portable humidifier, I'm bringing it with me. Yes. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, sponsor, Ben, I will let you.
Speaker 1: I will let you borrow my facial steamer so you
Speaker 1: can just shove your face in that every day. Thanks,
Speaker 1: You're welcome. I was gonna say something really inappropriate, Okay. Next,
Speaker 1: whose partner? Whose partner is going to be on the
Speaker 1: tour bus more often? Becca's or Bins, Jessica or Garrett?
Speaker 1: I think Garrett, right, I would say Jessica, Ja there,
Speaker 1: Jessica's there for a third of the tours. She's coming
Speaker 1: in and out, so she'll be in for a week
Speaker 1: out for two, in for a week out for two.
Speaker 1: So that sounds like a lot. I honestly think Jessica
Speaker 1: because Garrett right now is so scattered all over the place,
Speaker 1: so he'll he you know what, Jessica might be there more.
Speaker 1: But of course we'll have Minno consoling, and she's also
Speaker 1: my partner, so she'll she'll take the lead as Minno
Speaker 1: going to be there the whole time. We don't stop
Speaker 1: licking that. You know, dogs like to get in that booty, doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're not on camera right now. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: what is going on over there. This sounds sounds like
Speaker 1: a good time. Okay, who's gonna be the bigger hype man?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I want to explain myself as part
Speaker 1: of the show. Okay, that's gonna be Ben Well. I
Speaker 1: and when I when like getting the crowd pumped up, um,
Speaker 1: I lose myself in the adrenaline. But I feel like Becca.
Speaker 1: Becca is really going to come through as the closer
Speaker 1: and keep everything like consistently hyped. But like I'll come
Speaker 1: out like a rocket and I'll slow down and then
Speaker 1: I'll end pretty excited too. If love love exist on stage,
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna need the rain Ben in It sounds
Speaker 1: like No I competed against Ben on the lip sync battle.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I've seen firsthand him lose himself on stage.
Speaker 1: So my vote is for Been on this show. I'm
Speaker 1: just picturing Ben fall into the mosh pit? What is
Speaker 1: it where they But I'll start the crowd, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be crowdsurfing everyone. Oh yeah, by tickets. Now I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I mean listen. If that's not selling Bachelor Live on
Speaker 1: stage for you guys, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I want to see it. Okay, who's more likely to
Speaker 1: trip on stage? Becca or Ben? I can answer this one. Ben,
Speaker 1: who's your hands? And you know it's it's gotta be Becca. Yeah,
Speaker 1: totally lock upstairs. Becca has her hands and her feet
Speaker 1: in the air on this one. She knows it's her
Speaker 1: minno raised a paw. I will for sure trip probably. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're doing what sixty six shows? I will probably trip
Speaker 1: in at least twenty seven of them. It's not more
Speaker 1: to say it, but yeah, yeah, definitely she owns it.
Speaker 1: She owns it's gonna happen. People, Just bear with me, please, Okay,
Speaker 1: last one who's going to take longer in hair and makeup?
Speaker 1: Ben or Becca Minno, that's easy? Are kidding me? That's
Speaker 1: definitely Beccat. I have this theory that I don't understand
Speaker 1: why I have to wear makeup at any point ever. Again,
Speaker 1: it just makes my I don't know how you all
Speaker 1: do it. It It makes my skin feel all sorts of weird.
Speaker 1: So that way, you don't need makeup. You got a
Speaker 1: fresh face ready for camera all the time. Everybody's not able.
Speaker 1: We don't all wake up like this, Thanks Rachel. Ben's
Speaker 1: only bringing two suits for the entire show. Yeah, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: don't care you know about this? Yeah, I'm pack and
Speaker 1: light team. Here's my thing. As long as I have
Speaker 1: enough golf shirts to play golf in the morning. I'm
Speaker 1: happy about this tour. I don't care about the night portion.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to hit the links. Ben's gonna have more
Speaker 1: polos than ties on this tour. All right, Well, Ben,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Always a pleasure. Loved having
Speaker 1: you on the show. Can't wait to catch Batchel live
Speaker 1: on stage and everything else that you're doing. It's going
Speaker 1: to be. Thanks guys, you guys are crushing it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me on. Thanks Benalty very soon, see y'all
Speaker 1: all right, listeners, thank you so much for tuning in.