Speaker 1: I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the.
Speaker 2: Ship Boy my Son in general.
Speaker 1: We are your host of t M.
Speaker 2: I Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration,
Speaker 2: name New Energy.
Speaker 1: What's good my son Lennon?
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, life, life be life, and so I'm
Speaker 2: just putting up with it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like my thoughts about what we've been discussed today,
Speaker 1: it's so different from last week to what is going
Speaker 1: on in the world today. It's really just everything. Every
Speaker 1: America is like the gift that keeps on giving. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know about the gifts,
Speaker 1: but it gives all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, America is very strange, man. I just try to
Speaker 2: find the little joy man that I can. You know,
Speaker 2: my my son won his championship. Shout out to Caston.
Speaker 2: You know, he plays with the Red Bulls young team
Speaker 2: and they had a tournament this weekend that was draining.
Speaker 2: It was like one hundred degrees out there. I don't
Speaker 2: even know how those kids play in these soccer games,
Speaker 2: but they was undefeated. They looked like a professional team
Speaker 2: out there. So I want to shout out them. Shout
Speaker 2: out all the soccer parents who are out there cheering
Speaker 2: and you know, doing what we do. So it was
Speaker 2: a dope event, you know, just watching him, just seeing
Speaker 2: him just grow like when you you know, when you
Speaker 2: when you play sports, because I played sports my whole
Speaker 2: life and I played basketball, and you don't you don't
Speaker 2: really see or you don't know how you and you
Speaker 2: know how you getting better. But I'm just watching him,
Speaker 2: like he started at five years old and he's now
Speaker 2: ten and for the last five years, just watching him
Speaker 2: grow and his skill level just increase so much because
Speaker 2: he really loves the sports. So just shout out to
Speaker 2: him and shout out to the team. So that's why
Speaker 2: I find my joy and this stuff. And then you
Speaker 2: got to come back to the real world. We're all
Speaker 2: of you know, the nonsense is happening. It's just like, Lord,
Speaker 2: have much we can't get. We can't get it. Broke
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, no, I mean, it's it's a lot. Put
Speaker 1: it that way. But I also had a great weekend
Speaker 1: of spending time with my family. It was my family reunion.
Speaker 1: I have terrible allergies that I'm dealing with as a
Speaker 1: result of being in that whatever they call it, I
Speaker 1: mean the heat in Alabama and I know it was
Speaker 1: hot everywhere across the country, but the heat in Alabama
Speaker 1: was like nothing I've ever felt in my life before,
Speaker 1: especially as I was leaving on the last day. It
Speaker 1: was the hottest day. And oh man, I mean you
Speaker 1: couldn't even stand outside to put your suitcase in the
Speaker 1: car without sweating all over. It was so hot. But
Speaker 1: it was hot and it was fun. We had a
Speaker 1: great time. My family. Every two years we get together,
Speaker 1: you know, I notice. I was just thinking, like how
Speaker 1: important it is to try to bring family together. I
Speaker 1: notice that in my family, like all the generations, even
Speaker 1: the little kids are excited because they know they're going
Speaker 1: to get an award for who graduated and you know
Speaker 1: who's done this and that and the best you know,
Speaker 1: reading scores and whatever. Ethic is so important. Like if
Speaker 1: we don't reward our children and let them feel like
Speaker 1: they are, like they're being celebrated from their family and
Speaker 1: from their community, that's like where do they go? So
Speaker 1: I love that about my family reunion. Every two years
Speaker 1: we get together in a different state and moves around.
Speaker 1: And that also gives a young person or a person
Speaker 1: period who may not ever go out of town anywhere.
Speaker 1: The opportunity to, you know, get to go out and
Speaker 1: see things that's happening in the world. So I'll be
Speaker 1: happy about it. I get really really excited, and I
Speaker 1: make it a priority. But yes, hot is an understatement
Speaker 1: in terms of what's been going on. But let me
Speaker 1: get to my thought of the day. So this is
Speaker 1: a topic that I think some people will. You know,
Speaker 1: people always coming after me like, oh, we have to,
Speaker 1: you know, be careful what we say right now, because
Speaker 1: you know, we don't we don't want to excuse me.
Speaker 1: We don't want to offer Donald Trump any chips. And
Speaker 1: I get that. So of course, you know, I'm anti
Speaker 1: Trump becoming president all the way. But you know, something
Speaker 1: has been giving me like a cringey feeling, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to make it my thought of the day for
Speaker 1: others and for you to chime in. I keep seeing
Speaker 1: people say that Donald Trump is a convicted FELA, and
Speaker 1: they are like using it as you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like it's like when they say it, they're saying
Speaker 1: it with a certain level of disdain. Right, and granted
Speaker 1: his charges, his his his consistent, consistent illegal activity that
Speaker 1: has been going on before he even ran for president,
Speaker 1: This is stuff that people didn't necessarily know, but it's
Speaker 1: been uncovered, the lies and his racist behavior and just
Speaker 1: just his his what I'm looking for the right word
Speaker 1: criminal activity period. He's just that's it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so clear. And so I understand. I completely understand that
Speaker 1: in his case, or in the case of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: when people say he's a convicted felon, they're really speaking
Speaker 1: to the rate charges. And you know, the colossal, if
Speaker 1: you will, of findings by the courts, jury, of his
Speaker 1: peers and others who know that he has been criminal
Speaker 1: mind criminal activity for a long time. Got it. But
Speaker 1: there is something about me hearing people say, oh, if
Speaker 1: you want a convicted felon to be your president, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a convicted felon, and it's being used a certain
Speaker 1: way that just gives me a cringy feeling, because I
Speaker 1: don't ever want us to get into the habit of
Speaker 1: looking at people who have felonies, right, everybody who has
Speaker 1: a felony and being able to say they are not
Speaker 1: qualified for xyz thing because they have a felony. So
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how to balance those
Speaker 1: two conversations, because I understand all the dangers of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I understand that he should not become president again of
Speaker 1: the United States. I understand how dangerous, problematic, and the
Speaker 1: type of energy that he brings up in the country,
Speaker 1: the type of energy that he creates, the toxicness of
Speaker 1: his participation in the society that we live in, being
Speaker 1: on TV throwing out there, you know, just constantly every
Speaker 1: time you hear from him, there's something that he says
Speaker 1: that absolutely one hundred percent make lets me know and
Speaker 1: reminds me and confirms for me that this man is
Speaker 1: not fit to be president. So I get that, and
Speaker 1: I also understand those people who say, well, in addition
Speaker 1: to that, if you have a felony and you can
Speaker 1: still run for president, then we need to look at
Speaker 1: the laws that act everyday people live under and how
Speaker 1: their lives are being impacted by having a felony conviction. Right.
Speaker 1: So I think that those things are very clear. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump dangerous, bad for the country as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: And if you are a convicted felon and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has one set of rules, then there's to be the
Speaker 1: same rules for others. And in fact, we need to
Speaker 1: look at we need to review how people living with
Speaker 1: felonies are existing in the world in general, because we
Speaker 1: know that there is the what is it the collateral
Speaker 1: consequences that our brother Jay Jordan talks about to a
Speaker 1: person coming home with a felony. So that's those things
Speaker 1: I understand. But I still cringe when I see certain people,
Speaker 1: especially white folks, writing convicted fela, convicted felon, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that does not just stop at Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and all the truths around him. It extends to a
Speaker 1: community of people who, to be quite clear, I would
Speaker 1: prefer to have some of my friends that had felonies
Speaker 1: to lead me any day over certain people who have none,
Speaker 1: no felony, and I don't trust them. So I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that for some people it's kind
Speaker 1: of like what the fuck we're talking about, because you
Speaker 1: know what, you know why we're saying what we're saying.
Speaker 1: But I still feel a little cringey when I hear it, and.
Speaker 2: I understand, you know, and you know, being a convicted
Speaker 2: feeling you know, I'm definitely advocating for rehabilitation right for
Speaker 2: the opportunity to show that I can be a productive
Speaker 2: member of society. I think it's about actions, right, I
Speaker 2: think it's less about words than actions. I think in
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's situation is multifaceted. Right, when we talk about
Speaker 2: him being a convicted felon, there's never been any rehabilitation
Speaker 2: or retribution from Donald Trump. He's consistently had a lifestyle,
Speaker 2: a way in which he lived his life that is
Speaker 2: criminal rights. That's who he is. So when people say
Speaker 2: he's a convicted felam and he just got convicted yesterday, right,
Speaker 2: so what has he done to show that. Okay, I
Speaker 2: just got convicted of a crime yesterday that I did
Speaker 2: three or four years ago, and I'm still living the
Speaker 2: same way. So when we're sitting there having this conversation
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump, it's not like the average person who
Speaker 2: has sat and done their time in prison, and during
Speaker 2: the time them during their time in prison, you've seen
Speaker 2: them grow. You've watched the evolution of that individual. They've
Speaker 2: written books, they've they've created programs within the prison system.
Speaker 2: For ten years straight, they lived their lives in a
Speaker 2: different manner outside of the criminal activity that it was
Speaker 2: convicted of. Right, So they're showing you that they want
Speaker 2: to be rehability, they have been rehabilitated, and they want
Speaker 2: to be a productive member of society. So I think
Speaker 2: both of those things are right. I think, yeah, we
Speaker 2: need to also look at, you know, how these collateral
Speaker 2: damages affect felons and people who have been convicted of crimes.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna say that what Donald Trump did is okay,
Speaker 2: and he can still run for president if you can
Speaker 2: run for the highest position in the land. But you
Speaker 2: can't be a barber, right, but you can't. You can't
Speaker 2: help at the basketball at the school. Right, you can't
Speaker 2: do none of these things. But you can run for
Speaker 2: where you could get the codes to the bombs, and
Speaker 2: you can raise World War. You can do anything you
Speaker 2: want to. You can rewrite the constitution, you can put
Speaker 2: justices in office. Right when you telling me that you
Speaker 2: can do all those things as a as not just
Speaker 2: a felon, but a recently convicted individual of crimes. Right
Speaker 2: where your whole cabinet, pretty much everybody who ran in
Speaker 2: your cabinet, who is a part of your administration is
Speaker 2: locked up. Right, you use the presidency as a criminal enterprise,
Speaker 2: like U reco charge stem from being the president.
Speaker 1: Actually in New York, what he was found guilty of
Speaker 1: is like inflating his business numbers and work his net
Speaker 1: worth or his value rather so that they get loans
Speaker 1: and all that. He's been doing that for decades now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So these are continuous crimes.
Speaker 1: And that's the point that I'm making. It's a hard
Speaker 1: person to choose to make the point on, right, because
Speaker 1: it's Donald Trump, and we already know again this man
Speaker 1: is a he's criminal minds like the TV show right
Speaker 1: he like you said, that was the word I was
Speaker 1: looking for, a lifestyle of crime and racism, right, So
Speaker 1: I already I understand that. What I'm saying, though, is
Speaker 1: that when I hear people or I see people, especially
Speaker 1: white folks, writing I don't want to convicted felon that's
Speaker 1: my president, you know, convicted fell in this and convicted
Speaker 1: felling that, I just feel a little bit of cringing
Speaker 1: because if that applies to a white man, then it
Speaker 1: makes me feel like it's very possible that it could
Speaker 1: also apply to black folks, brown folks and other people.
Speaker 1: The problem is, and it does, and it does.
Speaker 2: That's what Yeah, that's for My thing is like I
Speaker 2: came on from prison and I couldn't even travel. I
Speaker 2: was on. I came on for prison from a crime
Speaker 2: that I was convicted that supposedly happened, you know, in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven, in two thousand and six, right, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to travel and do just do life.
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to travel to do business. I wasn't
Speaker 2: able to get my life back on you look at Bg.
Speaker 2: BG was convicted of a crime years ago, spent about
Speaker 2: thirteen years in prison to come home to something to
Speaker 2: tell him that he can't even go perform that They
Speaker 2: got to look at the songs, right, So this is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to look at Meek Mill, he was
Speaker 2: on paper for eleven years for a problem that he
Speaker 2: committed as a teenager. So these collateral damages have altered
Speaker 2: meant a bunch of our lives. So how can somebody
Speaker 2: who just got convicted of a crime just be able
Speaker 2: to go to the highest court of the land and
Speaker 2: be it, I mean the highest position in the land
Speaker 2: and be able to write laws and write.
Speaker 3: Into practice laws well not really right, get laws.
Speaker 2: He has the ability to influence the laws that can
Speaker 2: pretty much wipe out what he did wrong, and he
Speaker 2: can influence it to say that no one did it.
Speaker 1: With the Supreme court he did it. I mean, they
Speaker 1: now have made the decision that if he if if
Speaker 1: his actions were committed as president, then more than likely
Speaker 1: they are not seen as illegal, and you know it
Speaker 1: is permitted or permissible, and you know, and I think
Speaker 1: that the bottom line to what I was thinking is
Speaker 1: that there has to be a like America in and
Speaker 1: of itself. The layers have to be pulled open at
Speaker 1: some point in order for us to continue. We can't
Speaker 1: keep like sweeping all of these things up, trying to
Speaker 1: push it in the corner, stick it under the rug,
Speaker 1: put it in the closet so people can come by
Speaker 1: and see us and think we're so beautiful and great.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely a country that I love, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure that you have parts about this country that you
Speaker 1: love as well. Right, But there is some deep rooted
Speaker 1: stuff that has not been addressed that we have to
Speaker 1: get to the heart of. Because again, when I listen
Speaker 1: to people talk about Donald Trump being a convicted felon,
Speaker 1: right and them not wanting him to be president, what
Speaker 1: I understand is that what they're saying is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. But I also know that there are people
Speaker 1: who don't want pool to get a job because he's
Speaker 1: a convicted felon, and.
Speaker 2: I do want to he said it, and that's that's
Speaker 2: what the thing.
Speaker 1: Is for me, and I want to know what the
Speaker 1: standards are I wanted. I'm hoping that this opens up
Speaker 1: an opportunity to look at the standards that we're holding
Speaker 1: because if one is true, which is like you said,
Speaker 1: Poky's always been impacted and unable to work and unable.
Speaker 1: But here is a man that people are having to
Speaker 1: try to use the fact that he's a convicted felon
Speaker 1: as a way to deter folks from voting for him. Right,
Speaker 1: That's that's what they're trying to use. And meanwhile, he
Speaker 1: just was a bad president. So listen everyone, today we
Speaker 1: are interrupting our entire show, our regularly scheduled programming, to
Speaker 1: bring a guest that is so important to us, someone
Speaker 1: who is a friend, a friend to us personally, a
Speaker 1: friend to TMI. The last time he was on, we
Speaker 1: were street Politicians, and he's here now under our new branding,
Speaker 1: but also a friend to the community, a friend to
Speaker 1: the people, and you all know him from your TV
Speaker 1: screens over many, many, many many years. His track record
Speaker 1: and his portfolio is extensive, and so you can go
Speaker 1: and do all the research and the reminders on the
Speaker 1: great Hill Harper and all of the entertainment that he's
Speaker 1: bought us over the years. Serious entertainment, real entertainment, fun entertainment.
Speaker 1: But what he's doing right now is not entertainment. It
Speaker 1: is serious. And we want to make sure that all
Speaker 1: of our listeners at every part of this country that
Speaker 1: you are aware that Hill Harper is a candidate for
Speaker 1: United States Senate, but especially if you are in the
Speaker 1: state of Mission, it is important that you all know
Speaker 1: that your vote is necessary. I believe it's first of August,
Speaker 1: think it's August six, but we're gonna hear that directly
Speaker 1: from Hill in a moment. There is a lot at
Speaker 1: stake in this election, and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: big money interest groups that are attempting to snuff out
Speaker 1: the will of the people and to stop us from
Speaker 1: being able to put people in office that we have
Speaker 1: all said very clearly we want to see leading this country.
Speaker 1: We are trying to go in a new direction. But
Speaker 1: as we work hard to turn the tide, there are
Speaker 1: people who will work just as hard, if not harder,
Speaker 1: to turn it back or to keep it in a
Speaker 1: way that is not beneficial to our communities. And so today,
Speaker 1: as I said, we've interrupted our entire show to bring
Speaker 1: Hill Harper on and allow him to talk about what's
Speaker 1: happening in his race and just why is this even important?
Speaker 1: Why even run for Senate knowing that there would be
Speaker 1: so much, so much to come against him as he
Speaker 1: attempts to uh to to become the United States Senator
Speaker 1: from Michigan. So, Hill Harper, thank you so very much
Speaker 1: for joining TMI today. We appreciate you so much and
Speaker 1: it's good to see you.
Speaker 4: Thank you both for having me on this. These types
Speaker 4: of conversations is so important, and it's so important to
Speaker 4: spread the word. So you are offering this platform for
Speaker 4: us to have this discussion is huge. So thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Hill.
Speaker 2: I just want to know, you know, just being a
Speaker 2: fan of yours and just watching you as an artist,
Speaker 2: as an actor, and just just knowing you you know
Speaker 2: a lot more personally, I want to know what made
Speaker 2: you take the lead from that to this.
Speaker 5: You know, so many people are hurting and and and
Speaker 5: and you're talking about in every level, I mean almost
Speaker 5: every categgory, particularly when it comes to communities that have
Speaker 5: experienced generational poverty, under education, hyper mass incarceration, violence, crime, etcetera.
Speaker 4: All of the ills that we talk about. It's getting worse.
Speaker 2: And folks know and.
Speaker 4: Can feel that there's a fix in that they don't
Speaker 4: have a partner in government that's actually helping. And so
Speaker 4: when we think about the United States Senate, it is
Speaker 4: the most powerful deliberative body in the world. It determines
Speaker 4: the distribution annually. One thing about this. One hundred people
Speaker 4: in this country determine how seven point two trillion dollars
Speaker 4: are allocated annually. And folks don't break it down like that.
Speaker 4: The Senate is the most powerful body in all the politics.
Speaker 4: The President does not decide where the money goes. Let's
Speaker 4: be very clear about this. And so if we want
Speaker 4: to start to get reeces back to our communities that
Speaker 4: have been really beaten down, traumatized, choked out from multiple levels,
Speaker 4: we have to have a seat at the table. I mean,
Speaker 4: Shirley Chisham said, I you don't have a seat the table,
Speaker 4: bring a folding chair.
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: Because you have to have a seat at the table,
Speaker 4: and we have it. We've only had twelve black senators
Speaker 4: in over two hundred and fifty years. If we had
Speaker 4: twelve right now, we still would be underrepresented. So, you know,
Speaker 4: attending to become the thirteenth black center in the history
Speaker 4: of this country is something that's vitally important, particularly now
Speaker 4: given the we're a decade and a half into what
Speaker 4: we're seeing happen with Citizens United, Citizens United. For those
Speaker 4: who are listening, you just understand many people think the
Speaker 4: reaction to the Obama presidency was the Tea Party. I personally
Speaker 4: believe the reaction the Obama presidency with Citizens United, which
Speaker 4: allows for unfettered, unlimited dark money to come into our politics.
Speaker 4: And you know, we can talk about we can talk
Speaker 4: about all of that, but the point is is that
Speaker 4: if we don't get seats at the table, in in
Speaker 4: bodies like the US Senate, things were going to continue
Speaker 4: to get worse. We're seeing we're seeing that happen. And
Speaker 4: so this is an open US Senate seed in Michigan,
Speaker 4: the first truly open Senate seed in twenty four years,
Speaker 4: and so this is a this may not come again
Speaker 4: in our lifetime, So this was the time to do it.
Speaker 4: It's the time to represent folks. It's the time that
Speaker 4: common sense, good people have to run for office. If
Speaker 4: we keep getting letting crazies occupy these seats, we're going
Speaker 4: to continue to get these crazy outcomes that we're seeing.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, tell me, what are some of the major issues
Speaker 1: that you see in the state of Michigan. And you
Speaker 1: know our audience, and I know there's a lot of issues,
Speaker 1: and you are obviously well versed in many of the
Speaker 1: different types of the diversity of issues and challenges. But
Speaker 1: our folks that are listening here are mainly black and
Speaker 1: brown people, and we also have a high concentration of
Speaker 1: black men who follow my son, who listen to my son.
Speaker 1: I want to know what are some of the issues
Speaker 1: that really are concerning to you that made you say
Speaker 1: I need to do this because I see.
Speaker 4: My people absolutely well. So first of all, let's just say,
Speaker 4: I want folks to be very clear. The United States
Speaker 4: setting is a federal seat, so anything I'm able to
Speaker 4: pass will apply to folks no matter where you are
Speaker 4: federally equally as far as Michigan. So I see this
Speaker 4: seat as a as a national seat, to be quite clear.
Speaker 4: This is about national representation, and and yes, I would
Speaker 4: be the center for Michigan and focused on issues relating
Speaker 4: to Michiganders, but that applies to everybody when we pass
Speaker 4: something federally, and so so when we talk about issues.
Speaker 4: Number One, healthcare, we have a healthcare cristis, particularly in
Speaker 4: our community. When we talk about high blood pressure, heart disease.
Speaker 4: When we talk about the impact of COVID and our community,
Speaker 4: we talk about the fact that that there are many
Speaker 4: of our communities are experiencing food apartheid. Some people refer
Speaker 4: to as a food desert, but I choose to use
Speaker 4: the other word because I believe it's systemic and not
Speaker 4: naturally a current. When we talk about the fact that
Speaker 4: we are living in a time when resources are being
Speaker 4: pulled out of our community, we have mass incarceration. So
Speaker 4: what are the things that we want to do. We
Speaker 4: want to provide universal health care if you get sicky,
Speaker 4: deserve to doctor right now, mental health care, vision, dental,
Speaker 4: all of these included. We also want to reduce mass incarceration.
Speaker 4: And how do you do that? You do that in
Speaker 4: multiple ways. Number One greatest and most efficient any government
Speaker 4: to make is spending on early childhood education and childcare, etc.
Speaker 4: Right it pays you back eight dollars on the backside
Speaker 4: for every dollar you spend on the front side. We
Speaker 4: also know that there's a clear tide between education rates,
Speaker 4: education achievement, and incarceration rates. Right, we know that it's there.
Speaker 4: So we're five percent of the world's population, we hold
Speaker 4: twenty five percent of the world's incarcerated peoples. It's not
Speaker 4: right and it needs to be addressed, and we have
Speaker 4: to do that. Michigan is the epicenter for taking money
Speaker 4: out of public educate. We underspend in Michigan along four
Speaker 4: billion dollars under spent on public education, in part because
Speaker 4: of the Devas family in the history that they were
Speaker 4: and so they're out of the west side of the
Speaker 4: state where I am right now, Grand Rapids, And so
Speaker 4: when we talk about these issues, we can go down
Speaker 4: to violence and common sense gun laws. And wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure. I was just at the corner of Redoing
Speaker 4: and Rossini on the east side of Detroit where two
Speaker 4: young people were killed this past week, nineteen people shot.
Speaker 4: It was a mass shooting that happened on the east
Speaker 4: side of Detroit, two blocks from you know, I did
Speaker 4: a block party. Came to a block party on the
Speaker 4: east side for four two dougs, four two doug asked
Speaker 4: me to come over there meet with the people. I
Speaker 4: was talking to three four hundred young men, and none
Speaker 4: of whom were planning on voting until I spoke with them,
Speaker 4: and I broke down why it was so important, and
Speaker 4: it blew me away how so many of these young men.
Speaker 4: Even one young guy said to me, I tell you,
Speaker 4: I got emotional. He said, man, I don't want to
Speaker 4: feel stupid. I said, well, you mean you go kill
Speaker 4: study said, man, when I get in there, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to know what names to write or how to
Speaker 4: spell them. And I was like, man, no one's ever
Speaker 4: showed you a ballot. He's like no, I said, man,
Speaker 4: it's just like when you take a standardized test, you're
Speaker 4: just feel in a bubble. He's like, for real? And
Speaker 4: I was like yeah, man.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 4: Had to question my assumptions because I'm like, we're asking
Speaker 4: people to vote and we never even caught them how
Speaker 4: to vote. How does that make sense? And so, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, it's so frustrating. No one, no one's going
Speaker 4: to walk into some clerk's office not even knowing what
Speaker 4: to do when. So we have to check all of
Speaker 4: our assumptions about this and communicate to folks about why
Speaker 4: this matters. And so at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: investment in community, letting entrepreneurs get capital so they can
Speaker 4: create businesses in our neighbors, in our communities. Detroit is
Speaker 4: an epicenter for right now, a ton of investment downtown,
Speaker 4: but the neighborhoods and the communities come complete under investment.
Speaker 4: Would folks want to open up businesses? So capital flow.
Speaker 4: I'm a small business owner. All of these things, raising
Speaker 4: the minimum wage, all of these things to a living wage,
Speaker 4: all of these things are part of it. And we
Speaker 4: can do this work, but we need representation to do it.
Speaker 2: You've always been a motivation. You know, you're a cancer survivor.
Speaker 2: You know you are a father, you adopted a son,
Speaker 2: and we right now the political climate is very heavy,
Speaker 2: you know, And what do you think that you can
Speaker 2: do to motivate and inspire to kind of like bridge
Speaker 2: the gap in what's going on right now?
Speaker 4: We got to remind each other of our power. And
Speaker 4: that's critical. If we actually showed up as an organized
Speaker 4: community in certainly the state of Michigan and across the country,
Speaker 4: we can control the outcome of almost every election and
Speaker 4: put people in office that will represent our communities in it.
Speaker 4: The thing is is that we've been convinced that we
Speaker 4: don't have the power, and we also don't have the
Speaker 4: systems in place to organize turnout. And as an example,
Speaker 4: the last Democratic primary in Michigan, African American turnout was
Speaker 4: less than ten percent. If afric American turnout on August
Speaker 4: sixth for my race is less than ten percent, I
Speaker 4: will not win. It's just impossible. But if we just
Speaker 4: ratchet that up to twenty twenty five percent, meaning two
Speaker 4: and a half out of ten, we're not talking like
Speaker 4: incredible numbers, right, two and a half people out of
Speaker 4: ten voted, I win. Imagine that we got to understand
Speaker 4: our power, understand how powerful we are. And it doesn't
Speaker 4: take you know, during the call Maan Young years in Detroit,
Speaker 4: turnout was like sixty percent. At sixty percent, we would
Speaker 4: control everything and then therefore everyone would have to come
Speaker 4: through our community to make decisions. Right now, people aren't
Speaker 4: truly checking with us and they're not coming through our
Speaker 4: community because we haven't. We haven't exercised our muscle. And
Speaker 4: we can do that, but that's I mean a lot
Speaker 4: of factors go into that, and so part of its
Speaker 4: education part of it. I blame the Democratic Party to
Speaker 4: be quite honest, because they do not do they don't
Speaker 4: spend GOTV money for primaries because the establishment wants to
Speaker 4: pick the winner and then they want to split our
Speaker 4: community with tons of tons of money to say, get
Speaker 4: out and vote and save the country. And so we
Speaker 4: have to understand that that's that's the fix that's going on,
Speaker 4: even within the party. And then the way we get
Speaker 4: the power is to is to win. If we don't win,
Speaker 4: if we don't start winning elections, we'll never have the
Speaker 4: power at the end of the day. And we can
Speaker 4: talk about it all we want, we can be angry
Speaker 4: about it, but winning is what dictates a voice and power.
Speaker 1: So you know, there are people who will be like
Speaker 1: this guy was on TV. This is a ga, he's
Speaker 1: an actor. How all of a sudden did he transition
Speaker 1: into politics? Because they you know, you know, sometimes we
Speaker 1: could be a little skeptical. But I want people to know,
Speaker 1: first of all, you have a successful Korean law as well,
Speaker 1: and you were a union organizer, weren't you.
Speaker 4: That's right. I was elected to the national board of
Speaker 4: my union where our far forfare contracts negotiated contracts against
Speaker 4: the executives. You know, as a pointed by President Obama,
Speaker 4: the President's Cancer Panel where we worked the National Institute
Speaker 4: of Health make them recommendations for cancer funding and research.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was a national Spokespersonal Lawyers Committee for
Speaker 4: Civil Rights under Law, where we did vote to protection work.
Speaker 4: I was a national spokesperson for the Yeah waiting to
Speaker 4: raise the minimum wage fifteen dollars an hour floor. You know,
Speaker 4: the work. The receipts are there, but that doesn't even matter.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know that at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it's about what are you willing to fight for? And
Speaker 4: I think that in this moment we can be sometimes
Speaker 4: our own worst enemy. It's like, you know, we want.
Speaker 4: All I say is this, I say to people, listen,
Speaker 4: just look at my opponent. You don't even need to
Speaker 4: like me. Just I'm running against somebody who didn't co
Speaker 4: sponsor George Floyd Justice and Policing. I'm unning Againt, somebody
Speaker 4: who didn't co sponsor Cannabis and Sponge Act. I'm runing
Speaker 4: against somebody who didn't co sponsor Medicare for All. I'm
Speaker 4: runing against somebody who who just ten days ago voted
Speaker 4: to not fund the State Department to confirm and the
Speaker 4: gods of health ministries death and injury injury totals, and
Speaker 4: the week before that voted in favor of sanctioning the
Speaker 4: the i c C. When they called nen Yahu's actions
Speaker 4: of war crimes and crimes against humanity. She's funded by
Speaker 4: a pack. I'm not taking one cent from a pack.
Speaker 4: I'm not taking one send in corporate pack money. At
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you don't even need to
Speaker 4: like me. Just do research on my opponent and decide
Speaker 4: who would you like to be in the US Senate.
Speaker 2: That's what I.
Speaker 1: Said a lot of times. The information that we know
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand. So unless they listen
Speaker 1: to programs like this, because the media is often it's
Speaker 1: very difficult to get a clear, full, true examination of
Speaker 1: all the facts and everything that's happening. And because so
Speaker 1: many in the media support, whether they want to or not,
Speaker 1: the war or the attack on Gaza, they will never
Speaker 1: really explain how serious it is that, like you said,
Speaker 1: the ICC, which is supposed to be an independent body,
Speaker 1: which is supposed to have the power to sanction those
Speaker 1: that they feel are committing a crime, and in this
Speaker 1: particular moment they are attempting to do that, and there
Speaker 1: are people who are elected officials. So we got black folks,
Speaker 1: brown folks and others who say we want to see
Speaker 1: a cease fire immediately. We need to be able to
Speaker 1: draw the connection between those people who are working in
Speaker 1: the opposite direction and people like you who have been
Speaker 1: willing to one call for a ceasefire, which is not
Speaker 1: an easy thing to do in this political climate. And
Speaker 1: then also to put or to I want to say,
Speaker 1: put your money where your mouth is, but it's really
Speaker 1: the other way around is to not take money from
Speaker 1: people who would who would therefore try to influence you
Speaker 1: to support something that you have been so you know,
Speaker 1: clearly against.
Speaker 4: So I mean to your point, the same organization that
Speaker 4: just took Jamal Bowman out and spent twenty million dollars
Speaker 4: to do that, they offered me the same deal to
Speaker 4: try to target Rashida to leave here in Michigan, and
Speaker 4: I said absolutely not. They wanted me to drop out
Speaker 4: of the center race and target Rashita. They offered ten
Speaker 4: million and hard dollars and ten million and dark dollars
Speaker 4: soft money, and that's exactly what they spent to take
Speaker 4: out Jamal Bowman. They're trying to take out Corey Bush
Speaker 4: in the same way down Missouri in summerly, et cetera.
Speaker 4: And so know that this is real. The system is
Speaker 4: allowing its citizens united is allowing the system to be
Speaker 4: worked that way. And so if even if you think
Speaker 4: about who and what your support, just the fact that
Speaker 4: I'm not taking one cent from a pack, nor would
Speaker 4: I fall for their deal, that shows we got to
Speaker 4: have more more folks that won't be bought, won't be bossed,
Speaker 4: won't be bullying.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I know that you Yeah, my son,
Speaker 1: if you want to, because I want to ask one
Speaker 1: more question, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask one real quick. You know, we
Speaker 2: were just having a discussion prior to you coming on
Speaker 2: here about you know, convicted felons and running for president,
Speaker 2: and we're talking about Donald Trump. I want to know,
Speaker 2: do you think as a convicted feeling he should be
Speaker 2: allowed to run for presidency and a convicted sex offen
Speaker 2: And if so, what do you think a second Donald
Speaker 2: Trump president would mean? Even if you were incentive, would
Speaker 2: you think it would empower you? Would you think that
Speaker 2: it would make it a lot harder for you like,
Speaker 2: what do you.
Speaker 4: Think I have to stay consistent? You know, I was
Speaker 4: just speaking in jail and the gen Z count of
Speaker 4: jail on third day talking to here in Michigan. If
Speaker 4: you're in jail awaiting trial, you can vote. If you
Speaker 4: have on probation parole, you can vote fell any conviction
Speaker 4: you vote. So it's wide open voting, uh, for for
Speaker 4: you know, being involved in the system here. And so
Speaker 4: I don't believe conviction should ever inhibit you from participating
Speaker 4: fully in all things that are that that that are
Speaker 4: in this country. And I also believe that once you
Speaker 4: serve your time, that that that your record should be sealed.
Speaker 4: We should ban the box and and sure it can
Speaker 4: be uncovered if a future situation happens. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, once you've done your time, no
Speaker 4: one has any business of what your history should be.
Speaker 4: And so so that's my feeling about all of those things.
Speaker 1: Now, that's what I preserve.
Speaker 3: That's what I said, okay here, So so the firewall
Speaker 3: has to be the US Senate, you know, and that's
Speaker 3: why being a senator, uh, we control the money.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: The president can can sign executive orders and attempt to
Speaker 4: do things at the margins. But at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, the United States Senate controls the budget, you know,
Speaker 4: the House of Representatives, all those House members. They send
Speaker 4: a bill to the Senate. The Senate can amend it,
Speaker 4: send it back, change the title, do all sorts of things.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, one hundred people control
Speaker 4: two really important things. The lifetime appointment of federal judges,
Speaker 4: and we see how that affects us every day. And
Speaker 4: then also how the money's gone. My grandmam used to say, baby,
Speaker 4: follow the money. You won't to anything about somebody. Look
Speaker 4: at how they spend their money. Look at our country.
Speaker 4: Now we spend our money.
Speaker 2: I'm not going.
Speaker 4: To represent increases in the National Defense Authorization Act, even
Speaker 4: if the President wants to do that. So we have
Speaker 4: to have a firewall to fight back. And I would
Speaker 4: be able to fight back from the United States Senate,
Speaker 4: And that to me is the key. We were going
Speaker 4: to fight and represent the values of the people who
Speaker 4: send me there and and what the history is. And
Speaker 4: so no matter who's in the presidency, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be fighting. I'm going to hold both parties accountable. I'm
Speaker 4: just to be honest with you, you know, both parties
Speaker 4: have been derelict in certain ways to our community, and
Speaker 4: so I'm going to be there holding both parties accountable
Speaker 4: for sure or who is in the executive branch.
Speaker 1: You know, you took my next question and answered it,
Speaker 1: and that is a testament to your brilliance and to
Speaker 1: your finger being on the post, because the question I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you is will you be a Democratic?
Speaker 1: Go get along, to go along whatever the Democrats say
Speaker 1: with the president says, because you know that was one
Speaker 1: of the things that they used against Jamal Bowman and
Speaker 1: in fact, Jamaal Bowman's election. What was that June twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: I believe June twenty fifth, the same day I was
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, Missouri, sitting in a sports bar looking
Speaker 1: at seven screens above my head, and each one of
Speaker 1: them was it was all sports news, some Latino, different
Speaker 1: languages every few minutes. The commercial that they ran in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis was against Cory Bush with the same exact
Speaker 1: language that they used against Jamal Bowman, and the main
Speaker 1: point was that she does not and of course that
Speaker 1: Jamal does not support the president, has voted against the president,
Speaker 1: and it is harming us when our Democrats don't work
Speaker 1: with the president. And yet when you listen to Congressman
Speaker 1: Bowmen and Congresswoman Bush explain what's loaded into these bills
Speaker 1: and how sometimes either you can lose things that are
Speaker 1: important in our communities and sometimes there can be things
Speaker 1: in the bills that are harmful for our communities. And
Speaker 1: therefore they have used their vote as leverage in for
Speaker 1: the Democrats and Republicans and whoever else. So just as
Speaker 1: a final word on that, and you can close it up,
Speaker 1: give us a vote tide on whether we can depend
Speaker 1: on you to be a thinker and a person who
Speaker 1: will be for the people and not just for partner.
Speaker 2: Absolute and.
Speaker 4: The establishment doesn't want me in this seed, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because they know I'll be independent thinker.
Speaker 4: They understand that I'm going to fight for people. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to fight you. Remember the first three words
Speaker 4: of both the Michigan Constitution and the US constitutions are
Speaker 4: saying we the people. It doesn't say we the party.
Speaker 4: It doesn't say we the politician. It doesn't say we
Speaker 4: the super pac doesn't say we the big donor. It
Speaker 4: says we the people. I'm going to fight for people
Speaker 4: and that's why I'm running. And so at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, if something's coming down that doesn't fit
Speaker 4: for people, then I'm not going forward and I won't
Speaker 4: do it. So you know, I hope folks will go
Speaker 4: to the website Hill Harper dot com or two dollars
Speaker 4: makes the difference. We're trying to run ads, We're trying
Speaker 4: to get the word out to get people to vote.
Speaker 4: So many people don't even know what a primary is,
Speaker 4: so we're having to educate our community about August sixth
Speaker 4: and the primary. There's nine days of early in person
Speaker 4: voting July twenty seven, August fourth. There's absentee voting going
Speaker 4: on right now, and so this is the moment where
Speaker 4: we really need people's help. Dave Chappelle just helped me
Speaker 4: out a lot by doing a big fundraiser for me
Speaker 4: this past Thursday in Detroiting, which was huge because you
Speaker 4: know him to stand up and you know he's selling
Speaker 4: out arenas and for him to come and do something
Speaker 4: for me meant so much. And so any anybody, you know,
Speaker 4: I need both of y'all to come on up. We
Speaker 4: need to do during early voting. We need to do
Speaker 4: an event. We could we could do the show live
Speaker 4: from Detroit or live from Grand Rapid. So just any help, folks,
Speaker 4: please please, please, God bless you, and let's let's go.
Speaker 4: This is an opportunity that we can't miss.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Hill, We appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Hell great, we got your back. And if you need
Speaker 2: us out there and were coming.
Speaker 4: Thank you, I need you. Say let's say, let's come on.
Speaker 1: I'm praying for Hill. You know, I'm praying for him.
Speaker 1: I'm praying for him because I know from the years
Speaker 1: and years and years of being Hill's friend and seeing
Speaker 1: him the world, that he really has a passion for
Speaker 1: black folks.
Speaker 2: He has everything that's necessary to leave like he.
Speaker 1: Really should absolutely be the senator. The problem, though, is
Speaker 1: that when I think about what happened to Jamaal Bowman,
Speaker 1: and I think about how so many black people lined
Speaker 1: up behind the white man, even though the white man
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent a supporter of you know, Israel,
Speaker 1: and look at what's happening right now. And guess what.
Speaker 1: These same black people claim that they don't that they
Speaker 1: want to cease fire and they are against what's happening
Speaker 1: in Israel, and yet they supported the candidate who with
Speaker 1: one hundred percent fund and back the assault on the
Speaker 1: people of gossip, these black folks. So it gives me,
Speaker 1: it takes away, It kind of reduces my hope for
Speaker 1: hell because I don't know about our people sometimes.
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately. All we can do is fight, man,
Speaker 2: and just stand on the right side of history, stand
Speaker 2: on the right side of morality and integrity, you know.
Speaker 2: And Hill has always represented that, you know, and I
Speaker 2: just believe that we just have to convince there. Like
Speaker 2: he said, twenty percent of the people, we get twenty percent,
Speaker 2: and we know that two out of ten people want
Speaker 2: the right candidate to be in office, right. We just
Speaker 2: got to make sure that they understand what's at state.
Speaker 2: We got to make sure that they understand when it's
Speaker 2: time to go out to vote, you know. And that's
Speaker 2: what the opposition is is very good at doing. They're
Speaker 2: good at making making their base understand that we need
Speaker 2: you to come out. We making sure that their base
Speaker 2: knows when it's time to vote, you know, And we
Speaker 2: have we have not been all the time. We have
Speaker 2: not done that the best. So I think, you know, hopefully, yeah,
Speaker 2: some people.
Speaker 1: Do, like black voters matter. Melanie Campbell on the National
Speaker 1: Coalition of Black Civic Participation got Mary pat Hector and
Speaker 1: those that you know are down in Georgia. I mean
Speaker 1: there are groups around the nation, but I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. The Republicans send out like a back call
Speaker 1: when they need people to support them, and then their
Speaker 1: people are and unfortunately not all Republicans, but so many
Speaker 1: of them are motivated by ham and on on.
Speaker 2: The niggas that they're doing. They're not just the Republicans,
Speaker 2: are funding the Democrats that lean Republican now, right, So
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. They got a double strategy like
Speaker 2: they Democrats. Is not fun to say, you know, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get the best Republican person that you know that
Speaker 2: we can lean a little bit, and we're gonna put
Speaker 2: money behind them so that we're on the same page.
Speaker 2: We haven't advanced. I was that's their new strategy. Now
Speaker 2: they're pretty much putting people in our party that lean
Speaker 2: more towards them.
Speaker 1: And it might not be new because how did Christian
Speaker 1: Cinema and Joe Manchin get there? Who are people who
Speaker 1: are older. I don't know how long Christian Cinema was
Speaker 1: in the Senate, but I know Joe Manchin was around
Speaker 1: for a while, and so you know, this is this
Speaker 1: is a strategy they've probably been using for a long time.
Speaker 1: Not to mention when you think about somebody like APAC.
Speaker 1: APAC also funds both sides, right, So you know it
Speaker 1: is a very it's a strategy that they use. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people will listen to us and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Democrats do similar. Well, who just get me the
Speaker 1: name of the Republican that is constantly or not so
Speaker 1: much constantly, but has a good track record of leaning
Speaker 1: in the more progressive direction or more of a liberal direction.
Speaker 1: I don't know him.
Speaker 2: I don't know him either.
Speaker 1: I mean in the end of his you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of his time in office, I guess Mitt
Speaker 1: Romney became a little bit because Romney was like one
Speaker 1: of those Republicans that's like, y'all is MAGA is not
Speaker 1: my faith. I'm not with MAGA. But I mean when
Speaker 1: you look back over Mitt Romney's record, he also has
Speaker 1: some questionable shit. So it's like, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, moving right along.
Speaker 2: Moving right along, which brings me to my I don't
Speaker 2: get it. There was a tenth on Donald Trump life
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: speculation of why who this, and that, you know, what
Speaker 2: party did it? Who did it? You know, I've seen
Speaker 2: so many different things. I've heard so many different allegations,
Speaker 2: you know, And I wrote on my page, you know
Speaker 2: the day that it happened is that you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a result in my in my position,
Speaker 2: this is a result of the last eight years of
Speaker 2: the climate that the MAGA, the whole MAGA campaign has created.
Speaker 2: You know what, the level of intense and division. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen this much since slavery, before, since before civil rights.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people say, oh, America is and
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not saying that it hasn't. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying to the level that I have seen it in
Speaker 2: the last eight years. In my personal experience, I've never
Speaker 2: had more encounters and personal encounters with family friends, had
Speaker 2: the same personal encounters with levels of racism, levels of hate.
Speaker 2: You know, I've never seen blatant, you know, unabridged, you know,
Speaker 2: boasted hate that I've seen. And I've never seen the
Speaker 2: Proud Boys like I've read about the KKK and and
Speaker 2: I've heard that they existed, but I never seen them
Speaker 2: outside like I was seeing in the last eight years,
Speaker 2: you know. And unfortunately, when you create that level of hate,
Speaker 2: when you foster that when you talk about beating up protesters,
Speaker 2: and when you when you talk about when you when
Speaker 2: you you incite the insurrection, you know, when you constantly
Speaker 2: talk about violence, and when you talk about the police
Speaker 2: should be able to do what they want to people,
Speaker 2: when you create.
Speaker 1: That energy, they'll say they never said police should be
Speaker 1: able to do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: Well, when you're saying that they have when they should
Speaker 2: have community, that means that if your immunity then you can't.
Speaker 2: Then that means you can kill her or do whatever
Speaker 2: to someone with impunity. So this is the reality of
Speaker 2: what this is. This is the energy. I've watched Donald
Speaker 2: Trump sit there and say, yeah, you should punch him
Speaker 2: a little harder, get him off the state. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: rough them up a little bit. Like I've literally watched
Speaker 2: him these things. This is not what I think he said,
Speaker 2: you know, these are things that we watch. So the
Speaker 2: energy that he him and MAGA has created over the
Speaker 2: eight years led to this. And the reality is you
Speaker 2: don't want to see anybody get shot. You don't want
Speaker 2: anybody to be hung, but you cannot ignore that when
Speaker 2: someone creates an energy and it comes back to them
Speaker 2: how it started and where it comes from, you know,
Speaker 2: And I don't. What I don't get is how people
Speaker 2: don't get that. You know, millions of people, I mean
Speaker 2: hundreds of people on my page talking about all what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Youth? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Trump's never done any of this. This is not And
Speaker 2: it's like I'm trying to figure out am I in
Speaker 2: the twilight zone because I don't know where someone has
Speaker 2: to be to not be able to see what the
Speaker 2: climate is. I say this all the time. Every Trump
Speaker 2: supporter is not a racist, right, but every racist is
Speaker 2: a Trump supporter. You can't explain to me how all
Speaker 2: the racists follow one person and that you're saying is
Speaker 2: unifying us, but they don't follow anybody else. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't act like when Obama was president he wasn't
Speaker 2: and Trump wasn't even a candidate, that the level of
Speaker 2: racism and division that he caused during Obama's presidency wasn't crazy.
Speaker 2: You can't say that he didn't try to create a
Speaker 2: climent to actually have Obama hurt you. He questioned the
Speaker 2: men's legitimacy, he questioned everything about and this was a
Speaker 2: black candidate and he ran as an opposition as a result,
Speaker 2: you know, to Obama's presidency. The whole Maga campaign was saying,
Speaker 2: y'all really let a black man run this country, and
Speaker 2: we're going to we're gonna change that ship. If we're
Speaker 2: not gonna allow shit like that to happen again. It was,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a backlash. So if you if
Speaker 2: people are blind to that, if you if you sitting
Speaker 2: there trying to act like you don't realize that you
Speaker 2: know that. I don't know what what you're watching. I
Speaker 2: don't know what part of you know, the show that
Speaker 2: you tuned into. But this has been the rhetoric and
Speaker 2: I can say it's been for over eight years because he,
Speaker 2: like I said, he did it during Obama's presidency.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I agree with you one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I mean, anybody who's acting like they don't
Speaker 1: know either they're dumb or they're just trying to act
Speaker 1: like they're dumb. We know. Donald Trump has said the
Speaker 1: most inciting things ever, Like some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: he says, people are like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. And in fact, some of the very people
Speaker 1: who probably are telling you that he didn't you know,
Speaker 1: he hasn't he didn't do anything to deserve to be shot,
Speaker 1: which he didn't. We're not gonna We're not gonna say
Speaker 1: that he deserved to be shot.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, those same people will
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he just did some mean to It's
Speaker 1: just mean tweets. So if you know about the mean tweets,
Speaker 1: what we've been saying is we didn't consider them to
Speaker 1: be mean tweets. We consider them to be dangerous tweets.
Speaker 1: So you word mean, we're saying they were dangerous, and
Speaker 1: that that was our issue in the first place. Okay,
Speaker 1: when he told the police officers, like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: when you pick him up, rub them up, you know,
Speaker 1: put him in the car, bang them up a little bit,
Speaker 1: this is what he said. So of course that he's
Speaker 1: giving people a boldness. You and and and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, my son, let's get to the
Speaker 1: simple fact so that we can stop going rigging him around.
Speaker 1: The Rosie the Man led an insurrection against the country,
Speaker 1: the government. The man had people that he knew. He
Speaker 1: was sitting in his office in the White House, and
Speaker 1: they were begging him to call and make a tweet,
Speaker 1: do something to stop people from running up and down
Speaker 1: the side of the Capitol, from running inside the building,
Speaker 1: chasing looking for Nancy Pelosi, going into the office of
Speaker 1: these folks, hooping on their desks, taking their equipment, going
Speaker 1: to looking for chasing Mike Pence. Somebody got killed. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of this happened under Donald Trump. And he's the
Speaker 1: one that said we're gonna walk down here. He's these
Speaker 1: were his words. He led the people. He led the people.
Speaker 1: At Clarence Thomas, who is on the Supreme Court, he
Speaker 1: votes against everything everything, almost everything that we consider to
Speaker 1: be progressive. Uh, you know, policy and or law that
Speaker 1: needs that we need for our communities. Okay. He has
Speaker 1: been an adversary for a long time. His wife helped
Speaker 1: to pay for the insurrection. So I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: when people sit there and try to act like they
Speaker 1: have not created this environment, it's crap not to mention.
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the Central Park five and then
Speaker 1: I'm done. Okay, Donald Trump took a full page add
Speaker 1: out against young boys who did not commit the crime
Speaker 1: that they were accused of, that they went to prison
Speaker 1: for for years. Okay, when asked about it recently after
Speaker 1: he knew that those young men or those men now
Speaker 1: had been cleared, he still doubled down and did not say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I apologize or you know this, I was
Speaker 1: misinformed or misled, right, which is what you would think
Speaker 1: that somebody who's not trying to incite violence, who is
Speaker 1: this you know, stellar individual that people keep trying to say,
Speaker 1: Because that's the one thing about us. We don't sit
Speaker 1: up here and say that that Joe Biden is this
Speaker 1: great individual who's done like That's some people who do that,
Speaker 1: but we don't do that, right So Donald Trump ain't shit.
Speaker 1: So say that. And then when you say that, then
Speaker 1: you can say, but I still fuck with him on
Speaker 1: I rock with him on this policy, that policy to.
Speaker 2: Say that, give me a policy, and I respect that
Speaker 2: if you give me a policy that you're telling me
Speaker 2: that this benefits me, I don't really fuck with him.
Speaker 2: I can acknowledge all the bullshit he's done, but I
Speaker 2: still this policy right here is gonna benefit me in
Speaker 2: my life, and so that's why, and I think everything
Speaker 2: else is irrelevant to me. I can respect that for
Speaker 2: somebody to say that this right here, that Joe Biden
Speaker 2: saying this was trying to tell people to kill or
Speaker 2: shoot Trump. He said, he said, I have a job,
Speaker 2: and that's to beat Donald Trump. I'm absolutely certain I'm
Speaker 2: the best person to be able to do that. So
Speaker 2: we're done talking about the debate. It's trying to put
Speaker 2: Trump in the bullseye. And they said that meant to
Speaker 2: shoot him.
Speaker 1: Let me get this straight. A Republican king heard Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: the Democratic president, say that and then say, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the one to go do it for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, beat him in an election.
Speaker 2: But none of the ship that Trump been saying about
Speaker 2: literal violence, speaking on violence and saying that violence should happen,
Speaker 2: and saying do it a little harder, and saying that,
Speaker 2: you know, all these things that were pertaining to the
Speaker 2: exact violence that was going on, he didn't really mean it.
Speaker 2: It was just mean tweets. As you said, like, we
Speaker 2: just got to stop the bullshit. Man. At some point,
Speaker 2: bullshit gotta stop. And with that, we've come to the
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