WEBVTT - From Hollywood to the Senate: The Fight for Change

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship Boy my Son in general.

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<v Speaker 1>We are your host of t M.

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<v Speaker 2>I Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration,

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<v Speaker 2>name New Energy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's good my son Lennon?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, life, life be life, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just putting up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, Like my thoughts about what we've been discussed today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so different from last week to what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the world today. It's really just everything. Every

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<v Speaker 1>America is like the gift that keeps on giving. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. I don't know about the gifts,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gives all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, America is very strange, man. I just try to

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<v Speaker 2>find the little joy man that I can. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my my son won his championship. Shout out to Caston.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he plays with the Red Bulls young team

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a tournament this weekend that was draining.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like one hundred degrees out there. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how those kids play in these soccer games,

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<v Speaker 2>but they was undefeated. They looked like a professional team

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<v Speaker 2>out there. So I want to shout out them. Shout

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<v Speaker 2>out all the soccer parents who are out there cheering

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, doing what we do. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a dope event, you know, just watching him, just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>him just grow like when you you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you play sports, because I played sports my whole

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<v Speaker 2>life and I played basketball, and you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really see or you don't know how you and you

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<v Speaker 2>know how you getting better. But I'm just watching him,

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<v Speaker 2>like he started at five years old and he's now

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<v Speaker 2>ten and for the last five years, just watching him

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<v Speaker 2>grow and his skill level just increase so much because

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<v Speaker 2>he really loves the sports. So just shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>him and shout out to the team. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I find my joy and this stuff. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>got to come back to the real world. We're all

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, the nonsense is happening. It's just like, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>have much we can't get. We can't get it. Broke

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<v Speaker 2>a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, no, I mean, it's it's a lot. Put

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. But I also had a great weekend

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<v Speaker 1>of spending time with my family. It was my family reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>I have terrible allergies that I'm dealing with as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of being in that whatever they call it, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the heat in Alabama and I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>hot everywhere across the country, but the heat in Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>was like nothing I've ever felt in my life before,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as I was leaving on the last day. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the hottest day. And oh man, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even stand outside to put your suitcase in the

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<v Speaker 1>car without sweating all over. It was so hot. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was hot and it was fun. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time. My family. Every two years we get together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I notice. I was just thinking, like how

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<v Speaker 1>important it is to try to bring family together. I

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<v Speaker 1>notice that in my family, like all the generations, even

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<v Speaker 1>the little kids are excited because they know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get an award for who graduated and you know

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<v Speaker 1>who's done this and that and the best you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reading scores and whatever. Ethic is so important. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>we don't reward our children and let them feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they are, like they're being celebrated from their family and

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<v Speaker 1>from their community, that's like where do they go? So

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<v Speaker 1>I love that about my family reunion. Every two years

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<v Speaker 1>we get together in a different state and moves around.

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<v Speaker 1>And that also gives a young person or a person

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<v Speaker 1>period who may not ever go out of town anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The opportunity to, you know, get to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>see things that's happening in the world. So I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>happy about it. I get really really excited, and I

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<v Speaker 1>make it a priority. But yes, hot is an understatement

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what's been going on. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>get to my thought of the day. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a topic that I think some people will. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people always coming after me like, oh, we have to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be careful what we say right now, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't we don't want to excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to offer Donald Trump any chips. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get that. So of course, you know, I'm anti

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<v Speaker 1>Trump becoming president all the way. But you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>has been giving me like a cringey feeling, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make it my thought of the day for

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<v Speaker 1>others and for you to chime in. I keep seeing

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<v Speaker 1>people say that Donald Trump is a convicted FELA, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are like using it as you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like when they say it, they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>it with a certain level of disdain. Right, and granted

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<v Speaker 1>his charges, his his his consistent, consistent illegal activity that

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<v Speaker 1>has been going on before he even ran for president,

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<v Speaker 1>This is stuff that people didn't necessarily know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been uncovered, the lies and his racist behavior and just

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<v Speaker 1>just his his what I'm looking for the right word

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<v Speaker 1>criminal activity period. He's just that's it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so clear. And so I understand. I completely understand that

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<v Speaker 1>in his case, or in the case of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>when people say he's a convicted felon, they're really speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the rate charges. And you know, the colossal, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, of findings by the courts, jury, of his

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<v Speaker 1>peers and others who know that he has been criminal

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<v Speaker 1>mind criminal activity for a long time. Got it. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is something about me hearing people say, oh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want a convicted felon to be your president, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a convicted felon, and it's being used a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way that just gives me a cringy feeling, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever want us to get into the habit of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at people who have felonies, right, everybody who has

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<v Speaker 1>a felony and being able to say they are not

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<v Speaker 1>qualified for xyz thing because they have a felony. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to figure out how to balance those

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<v Speaker 1>two conversations, because I understand all the dangers of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that he should not become president again of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. I understand how dangerous, problematic, and the

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<v Speaker 1>type of energy that he brings up in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of energy that he creates, the toxicness of

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<v Speaker 1>his participation in the society that we live in, being

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<v Speaker 1>on TV throwing out there, you know, just constantly every

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<v Speaker 1>time you hear from him, there's something that he says

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<v Speaker 1>that absolutely one hundred percent make lets me know and

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me and confirms for me that this man is

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<v Speaker 1>not fit to be president. So I get that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also understand those people who say, well, in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to that, if you have a felony and you can

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<v Speaker 1>still run for president, then we need to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the laws that act everyday people live under and how

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<v Speaker 1>their lives are being impacted by having a felony conviction. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that those things are very clear. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump dangerous, bad for the country as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are a convicted felon and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has one set of rules, then there's to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same rules for others. And in fact, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>look at we need to review how people living with

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<v Speaker 1>felonies are existing in the world in general, because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is the what is it the collateral

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<v Speaker 1>consequences that our brother Jay Jordan talks about to a

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<v Speaker 1>person coming home with a felony. So that's those things

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. But I still cringe when I see certain people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially white folks, writing convicted fela, convicted felon, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that does not just stop at Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and all the truths around him. It extends to a

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<v Speaker 1>community of people who, to be quite clear, I would

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to have some of my friends that had felonies

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<v Speaker 1>to lead me any day over certain people who have none,

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<v Speaker 1>no felony, and I don't trust them. So I just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know that for some people it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like what the fuck we're talking about, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you know why we're saying what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still feel a little cringey when I hear it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, you know, and you know, being a convicted

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<v Speaker 2>feeling you know, I'm definitely advocating for rehabilitation right for

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to show that I can be a productive

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<v Speaker 2>member of society. I think it's about actions, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's less about words than actions. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's situation is multifaceted. Right, when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>him being a convicted felon, there's never been any rehabilitation

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<v Speaker 2>or retribution from Donald Trump. He's consistently had a lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>a way in which he lived his life that is

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<v Speaker 2>criminal rights. That's who he is. So when people say

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<v Speaker 2>he's a convicted felam and he just got convicted yesterday, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so what has he done to show that. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>just got convicted of a crime yesterday that I did

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<v Speaker 2>three or four years ago, and I'm still living the

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<v Speaker 2>same way. So when we're sitting there having this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about Donald Trump, it's not like the average person who

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<v Speaker 2>has sat and done their time in prison, and during

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<v Speaker 2>the time them during their time in prison, you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>them grow. You've watched the evolution of that individual. They've

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<v Speaker 2>written books, they've they've created programs within the prison system.

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<v Speaker 2>For ten years straight, they lived their lives in a

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<v Speaker 2>different manner outside of the criminal activity that it was

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<v Speaker 2>convicted of. Right, So they're showing you that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be rehability, they have been rehabilitated, and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a productive member of society. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>both of those things are right. I think, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to also look at, you know, how these collateral

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<v Speaker 2>damages affect felons and people who have been convicted of crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're gonna say that what Donald Trump did is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and he can still run for president if you can

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<v Speaker 2>run for the highest position in the land. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be a barber, right, but you can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>help at the basketball at the school. Right, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do none of these things. But you can run for

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<v Speaker 2>where you could get the codes to the bombs, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can raise World War. You can do anything you

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<v Speaker 2>want to. You can rewrite the constitution, you can put

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<v Speaker 2>justices in office. Right when you telling me that you

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<v Speaker 2>can do all those things as a as not just

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<v Speaker 2>a felon, but a recently convicted individual of crimes. Right

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<v Speaker 2>where your whole cabinet, pretty much everybody who ran in

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<v Speaker 2>your cabinet, who is a part of your administration is

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<v Speaker 2>locked up. Right, you use the presidency as a criminal enterprise,

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<v Speaker 2>like U reco charge stem from being the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually in New York, what he was found guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>is like inflating his business numbers and work his net

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<v Speaker 1>worth or his value rather so that they get loans

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. He's been doing that for decades now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So these are continuous crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the point that I'm making. It's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>person to choose to make the point on, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's Donald Trump, and we already know again this man

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<v Speaker 1>is a he's criminal minds like the TV show right

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<v Speaker 1>he like you said, that was the word I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, a lifestyle of crime and racism, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I already I understand that. What I'm saying, though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that when I hear people or I see people, especially

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<v Speaker 1>white folks, writing I don't want to convicted felon that's

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<v Speaker 1>my president, you know, convicted fell in this and convicted

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<v Speaker 1>felling that, I just feel a little bit of cringing

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<v Speaker 1>because if that applies to a white man, then it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like it's very possible that it could

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<v Speaker 1>also apply to black folks, brown folks and other people.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is, and it does, and it does.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Yeah, that's for My thing is like I

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<v Speaker 2>came on from prison and I couldn't even travel. I

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<v Speaker 2>was on. I came on for prison from a crime

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<v Speaker 2>that I was convicted that supposedly happened, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety seven, in two thousand and six, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to travel and do just do life.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to travel to do business. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to get my life back on you look at Bg.

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<v Speaker 2>BG was convicted of a crime years ago, spent about

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen years in prison to come home to something to

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<v Speaker 2>tell him that he can't even go perform that They

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<v Speaker 2>got to look at the songs, right, So this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to look at Meek Mill, he was

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<v Speaker 2>on paper for eleven years for a problem that he

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<v Speaker 2>committed as a teenager. So these collateral damages have altered

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<v Speaker 2>meant a bunch of our lives. So how can somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who just got convicted of a crime just be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the highest court of the land and

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<v Speaker 2>be it, I mean the highest position in the land

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to write laws and write.

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<v Speaker 3>Into practice laws well not really right, get laws.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the ability to influence the laws that can

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much wipe out what he did wrong, and he

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<v Speaker 2>can influence it to say that no one did it.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Supreme court he did it. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>now have made the decision that if he if if

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<v Speaker 1>his actions were committed as president, then more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>they are not seen as illegal, and you know it

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<v Speaker 1>is permitted or permissible, and you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the bottom line to what I was thinking is

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<v Speaker 1>that there has to be a like America in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself. The layers have to be pulled open at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in order for us to continue. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep like sweeping all of these things up, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>push it in the corner, stick it under the rug,

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the closet so people can come by

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<v Speaker 1>and see us and think we're so beautiful and great.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely a country that I love, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you have parts about this country that you

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<v Speaker 1>love as well. Right, But there is some deep rooted

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that has not been addressed that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the heart of. Because again, when I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to people talk about Donald Trump being a convicted felon,

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<v Speaker 1>right and them not wanting him to be president, what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand is that what they're saying is one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent right. But I also know that there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't want pool to get a job because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a convicted felon, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to he said it, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is for me, and I want to know what the

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<v Speaker 1>standards are I wanted. I'm hoping that this opens up

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to look at the standards that we're holding

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<v Speaker 1>because if one is true, which is like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>Poky's always been impacted and unable to work and unable.

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<v Speaker 1>But here is a man that people are having to

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<v Speaker 1>try to use the fact that he's a convicted felon

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to deter folks from voting for him. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what they're trying to use. And meanwhile, he

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<v Speaker 1>just was a bad president. So listen everyone, today we

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<v Speaker 1>are interrupting our entire show, our regularly scheduled programming, to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a guest that is so important to us, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is a friend, a friend to us personally, a

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<v Speaker 1>friend to TMI. The last time he was on, we

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<v Speaker 1>were street Politicians, and he's here now under our new branding,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a friend to the community, a friend to

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<v Speaker 1>the people, and you all know him from your TV

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<v Speaker 1>screens over many, many, many many years. His track record

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<v Speaker 1>and his portfolio is extensive, and so you can go

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<v Speaker 1>and do all the research and the reminders on the

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<v Speaker 1>great Hill Harper and all of the entertainment that he's

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<v Speaker 1>bought us over the years. Serious entertainment, real entertainment, fun entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he's doing right now is not entertainment. It

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<v Speaker 1>is serious. And we want to make sure that all

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners at every part of this country that

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<v Speaker 1>you are aware that Hill Harper is a candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>United States Senate, but especially if you are in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Mission, it is important that you all know

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<v Speaker 1>that your vote is necessary. I believe it's first of August,

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<v Speaker 1>think it's August six, but we're gonna hear that directly

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<v Speaker 1>from Hill in a moment. There is a lot at

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<v Speaker 1>stake in this election, and there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>big money interest groups that are attempting to snuff out

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<v Speaker 1>the will of the people and to stop us from

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<v Speaker 1>being able to put people in office that we have

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<v Speaker 1>all said very clearly we want to see leading this country.

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<v Speaker 1>We are trying to go in a new direction. But

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<v Speaker 1>as we work hard to turn the tide, there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who will work just as hard, if not harder,

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it back or to keep it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that is not beneficial to our communities. And so today,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, we've interrupted our entire show to bring

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<v Speaker 1>Hill Harper on and allow him to talk about what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in his race and just why is this even important?

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<v Speaker 1>Why even run for Senate knowing that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>so much, so much to come against him as he

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to uh to to become the United States Senator

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. So, Hill Harper, thank you so very much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining TMI today. We appreciate you so much and

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you both for having me on this. These types

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<v Speaker 4>of conversations is so important, and it's so important to

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<v Speaker 4>spread the word. So you are offering this platform for

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<v Speaker 4>us to have this discussion is huge. So thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know, you know, just being a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of yours and just watching you as an artist,

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<v Speaker 2>as an actor, and just just knowing you you know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more personally, I want to know what made

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<v Speaker 2>you take the lead from that to this.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so many people are hurting and and and

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<v Speaker 5>and you're talking about in every level, I mean almost

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<v Speaker 5>every categgory, particularly when it comes to communities that have

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<v Speaker 5>experienced generational poverty, under education, hyper mass incarceration, violence, crime, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 4>All of the ills that we talk about. It's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And folks know and.

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<v Speaker 4>Can feel that there's a fix in that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have a partner in government that's actually helping. And so

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<v Speaker 4>when we think about the United States Senate, it is

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<v Speaker 4>the most powerful deliberative body in the world. It determines

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<v Speaker 4>the distribution annually. One thing about this. One hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>in this country determine how seven point two trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>are allocated annually. And folks don't break it down like that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Senate is the most powerful body in all the politics.

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<v Speaker 4>The President does not decide where the money goes. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>be very clear about this. And so if we want

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<v Speaker 4>to start to get reeces back to our communities that

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<v Speaker 4>have been really beaten down, traumatized, choked out from multiple levels,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to have a seat at the table. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Shirley Chisham said, I you don't have a seat the table,

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<v Speaker 4>bring a folding chair.

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you have to have a seat at the table,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have it. We've only had twelve black senators

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<v Speaker 4>in over two hundred and fifty years. If we had

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<v Speaker 4>twelve right now, we still would be underrepresented. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>attending to become the thirteenth black center in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of this country is something that's vitally important, particularly now

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<v Speaker 4>given the we're a decade and a half into what

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing happen with Citizens United, Citizens United. For those

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<v Speaker 4>who are listening, you just understand many people think the

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<v Speaker 4>reaction to the Obama presidency was the Tea Party. I personally

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<v Speaker 4>believe the reaction the Obama presidency with Citizens United, which

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<v Speaker 4>allows for unfettered, unlimited dark money to come into our politics.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we can talk about we can talk

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<v Speaker 4>about all of that, but the point is is that

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<v Speaker 4>if we don't get seats at the table, in in

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<v Speaker 4>bodies like the US Senate, things were going to continue

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<v Speaker 4>to get worse. We're seeing we're seeing that happen. And

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<v Speaker 4>so this is an open US Senate seed in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>the first truly open Senate seed in twenty four years,

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<v Speaker 4>and so this is a this may not come again

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<v Speaker 4>in our lifetime, So this was the time to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the time to represent folks. It's the time that

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<v Speaker 4>common sense, good people have to run for office. If

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<v Speaker 4>we keep getting letting crazies occupy these seats, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to continue to get these crazy outcomes that we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, tell me, what are some of the major issues

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<v Speaker 1>that you see in the state of Michigan. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know our audience, and I know there's a lot of issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are obviously well versed in many of the

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<v Speaker 1>different types of the diversity of issues and challenges. But

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<v Speaker 1>our folks that are listening here are mainly black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown people, and we also have a high concentration of

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<v Speaker 1>black men who follow my son, who listen to my son.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what are some of the issues

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<v Speaker 1>that really are concerning to you that made you say

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do this because I see.

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<v Speaker 4>My people absolutely well. So first of all, let's just say,

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<v Speaker 4>I want folks to be very clear. The United States

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<v Speaker 4>setting is a federal seat, so anything I'm able to

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<v Speaker 4>pass will apply to folks no matter where you are

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<v Speaker 4>federally equally as far as Michigan. So I see this

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<v Speaker 4>seat as a as a national seat, to be quite clear.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about national representation, and and yes, I would

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<v Speaker 4>be the center for Michigan and focused on issues relating

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<v Speaker 4>to Michiganders, but that applies to everybody when we pass

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<v Speaker 4>something federally, and so so when we talk about issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Number One, healthcare, we have a healthcare cristis, particularly in

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<v Speaker 4>our community. When we talk about high blood pressure, heart disease.

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<v Speaker 4>When we talk about the impact of COVID and our community,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk about the fact that that there are many

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<v Speaker 4>of our communities are experiencing food apartheid. Some people refer

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<v Speaker 4>to as a food desert, but I choose to use

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<v Speaker 4>the other word because I believe it's systemic and not

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<v Speaker 4>naturally a current. When we talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>we are living in a time when resources are being

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<v Speaker 4>pulled out of our community, we have mass incarceration. So

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<v Speaker 4>what are the things that we want to do. We

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<v Speaker 4>want to provide universal health care if you get sicky,

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<v Speaker 4>deserve to doctor right now, mental health care, vision, dental,

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<v Speaker 4>all of these included. We also want to reduce mass incarceration.

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<v Speaker 4>And how do you do that? You do that in

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<v Speaker 4>multiple ways. Number One greatest and most efficient any government

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<v Speaker 4>to make is spending on early childhood education and childcare, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>Right it pays you back eight dollars on the backside

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<v Speaker 4>for every dollar you spend on the front side. We

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<v Speaker 4>also know that there's a clear tide between education rates,

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<v Speaker 4>education achievement, and incarceration rates. Right, we know that it's there.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're five percent of the world's population, we hold

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five percent of the world's incarcerated peoples. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>right and it needs to be addressed, and we have

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. Michigan is the epicenter for taking money

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<v Speaker 4>out of public educate. We underspend in Michigan along four

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars under spent on public education, in part because

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<v Speaker 4>of the Devas family in the history that they were

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<v Speaker 4>and so they're out of the west side of the

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<v Speaker 4>state where I am right now, Grand Rapids, And so

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<v Speaker 4>when we talk about these issues, we can go down

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<v Speaker 4>to violence and common sense gun laws. And wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure. I was just at the corner of Redoing

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<v Speaker 4>and Rossini on the east side of Detroit where two

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<v Speaker 4>young people were killed this past week, nineteen people shot.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a mass shooting that happened on the east

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<v Speaker 4>side of Detroit, two blocks from you know, I did

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<v Speaker 4>a block party. Came to a block party on the

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<v Speaker 4>east side for four two dougs, four two doug asked

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<v Speaker 4>me to come over there meet with the people. I

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<v Speaker 4>was talking to three four hundred young men, and none

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<v Speaker 4>of whom were planning on voting until I spoke with them,

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<v Speaker 4>and I broke down why it was so important, and

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<v Speaker 4>it blew me away how so many of these young men.

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<v Speaker 4>Even one young guy said to me, I tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>I got emotional. He said, man, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>feel stupid. I said, well, you mean you go kill

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<v Speaker 4>study said, man, when I get in there, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to know what names to write or how to

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<v Speaker 4>spell them. And I was like, man, no one's ever

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<v Speaker 4>showed you a ballot. He's like no, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just like when you take a standardized test, you're

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<v Speaker 4>just feel in a bubble. He's like, for real? And

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<v Speaker 4>I was like yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to question my assumptions because I'm like, we're asking

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<v Speaker 4>people to vote and we never even caught them how

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<v Speaker 4>to vote. How does that make sense? And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's so frustrating. No one, no one's going

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<v Speaker 4>to walk into some clerk's office not even knowing what

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<v Speaker 4>to do when. So we have to check all of

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<v Speaker 4>our assumptions about this and communicate to folks about why

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<v Speaker 4>this matters. And so at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>investment in community, letting entrepreneurs get capital so they can

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<v Speaker 4>create businesses in our neighbors, in our communities. Detroit is

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<v Speaker 4>an epicenter for right now, a ton of investment downtown,

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<v Speaker 4>but the neighborhoods and the communities come complete under investment.

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<v Speaker 4>Would folks want to open up businesses? So capital flow.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a small business owner. All of these things, raising

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<v Speaker 4>the minimum wage, all of these things to a living wage,

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<v Speaker 4>all of these things are part of it. And we

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<v Speaker 4>can do this work, but we need representation to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've always been a motivation. You know, you're a cancer survivor.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>You know you are a father, you adopted a son,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>and we right now the political climate is very heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And what do you think that you can

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<v Speaker 2>do to motivate and inspire to kind of like bridge

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<v Speaker 2>the gap in what's going on right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We got to remind each other of our power. And

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 4>that's critical. If we actually showed up as an organized

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 4>community in certainly the state of Michigan and across the country,

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 4>we can control the outcome of almost every election and

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 4>put people in office that will represent our communities in it.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is is that we've been convinced that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have the power, and we also don't have the

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 4>systems in place to organize turnout. And as an example,

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<v Speaker 4>the last Democratic primary in Michigan, African American turnout was

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<v Speaker 4>less than ten percent. If afric American turnout on August

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.959
<v Speaker 4>sixth for my race is less than ten percent, I

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<v Speaker 4>will not win. It's just impossible. But if we just

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 4>ratchet that up to twenty twenty five percent, meaning two

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 4>and a half out of ten, we're not talking like

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 4>incredible numbers, right, two and a half people out of

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>ten voted, I win. Imagine that we got to understand

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 4>our power, understand how powerful we are. And it doesn't

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 4>take you know, during the call Maan Young years in Detroit,

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 4>turnout was like sixty percent. At sixty percent, we would

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<v Speaker 4>control everything and then therefore everyone would have to come

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 4>through our community to make decisions. Right now, people aren't

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 4>truly checking with us and they're not coming through our

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 4>community because we haven't. We haven't exercised our muscle. And

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 4>we can do that, but that's I mean a lot

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 4>of factors go into that, and so part of its

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 4>education part of it. I blame the Democratic Party to

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<v Speaker 4>be quite honest, because they do not do they don't

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 4>spend GOTV money for primaries because the establishment wants to

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 4>pick the winner and then they want to split our

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>community with tons of tons of money to say, get

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 4>out and vote and save the country. And so we

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 4>have to understand that that's that's the fix that's going on,

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 4>even within the party. And then the way we get

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 4>the power is to is to win. If we don't win,

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 4>if we don't start winning elections, we'll never have the

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 4>power at the end of the day. And we can

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 4>talk about it all we want, we can be angry

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 4>about it, but winning is what dictates a voice and power.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there are people who will be like

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this guy was on TV. This is a ga, he's

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<v Speaker 1>an actor. How all of a sudden did he transition

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<v Speaker 1>into politics? Because they you know, you know, sometimes we

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>could be a little skeptical. But I want people to know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you have a successful Korean law as well,

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and you were a union organizer, weren't you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. I was elected to the national board of

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<v Speaker 4>my union where our far forfare contracts negotiated contracts against

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 4>the executives. You know, as a pointed by President Obama,

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 4>the President's Cancer Panel where we worked the National Institute

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.479
<v Speaker 4>of Health make them recommendations for cancer funding and research.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was a national Spokespersonal Lawyers Committee for

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 4>Civil Rights under Law, where we did vote to protection work.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I was a national spokesperson for the Yeah waiting to

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<v Speaker 4>raise the minimum wage fifteen dollars an hour floor. You know,

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 4>the work. The receipts are there, but that doesn't even matter.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know that at the end of the day,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>it's about what are you willing to fight for? And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that in this moment we can be sometimes

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 4>our own worst enemy. It's like, you know, we want.

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<v Speaker 4>All I say is this, I say to people, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>just look at my opponent. You don't even need to

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 4>like me. Just I'm running against somebody who didn't co

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 4>sponsor George Floyd Justice and Policing. I'm unning Againt, somebody

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 4>who didn't co sponsor Cannabis and Sponge Act. I'm runing

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 4>against somebody who didn't co sponsor Medicare for All. I'm

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 4>runing against somebody who who just ten days ago voted

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 4>to not fund the State Department to confirm and the

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 4>gods of health ministries death and injury injury totals, and

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 4>the week before that voted in favor of sanctioning the

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<v Speaker 4>the i c C. When they called nen Yahu's actions

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 4>of war crimes and crimes against humanity. She's funded by

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 4>a pack. I'm not taking one cent from a pack.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not taking one send in corporate pack money. At

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, you don't even need to

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 4>like me. Just do research on my opponent and decide

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 4>who would you like to be in the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said a lot of times. The information that we know

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't understand. So unless they listen

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to programs like this, because the media is often it's

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to get a clear, full, true examination of

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>all the facts and everything that's happening. And because so

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>many in the media support, whether they want to or not,

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the war or the attack on Gaza, they will never

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>really explain how serious it is that, like you said,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the ICC, which is supposed to be an independent body,

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>which is supposed to have the power to sanction those

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that they feel are committing a crime, and in this

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>particular moment they are attempting to do that, and there

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>are people who are elected officials. So we got black folks,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>brown folks and others who say we want to see

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a cease fire immediately. We need to be able to

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>draw the connection between those people who are working in

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction and people like you who have been

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>willing to one call for a ceasefire, which is not

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>an easy thing to do in this political climate. And

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>then also to put or to I want to say,

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>put your money where your mouth is, but it's really

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the other way around is to not take money from

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>people who would who would therefore try to influence you

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to support something that you have been so you know,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>clearly against.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean to your point, the same organization that

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<v Speaker 4>just took Jamal Bowman out and spent twenty million dollars

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 4>to do that, they offered me the same deal to

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 4>try to target Rashida to leave here in Michigan, and

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I said absolutely not. They wanted me to drop out

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 4>of the center race and target Rashita. They offered ten

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 4>million and hard dollars and ten million and dark dollars

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>soft money, and that's exactly what they spent to take

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 4>out Jamal Bowman. They're trying to take out Corey Bush

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 4>in the same way down Missouri in summerly, et cetera.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 4>And so know that this is real. The system is

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 4>allowing its citizens united is allowing the system to be

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 4>worked that way. And so if even if you think

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 4>about who and what your support, just the fact that

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm not taking one cent from a pack, nor would

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 4>I fall for their deal, that shows we got to

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 4>have more more folks that won't be bought, won't be bossed,

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 4>won't be bullying.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely, absolutely, I know that you Yeah, my son,

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to, because I want to ask one

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>more question, but go ahead.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask one real quick. You know, we

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>were just having a discussion prior to you coming on

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<v Speaker 2>here about you know, convicted felons and running for president,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about Donald Trump. I want to know,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>do you think as a convicted feeling he should be

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>allowed to run for presidency and a convicted sex offen

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>And if so, what do you think a second Donald

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Trump president would mean? Even if you were incentive, would

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you think it would empower you? Would you think that

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>it would make it a lot harder for you like,

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>what do you.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Think I have to stay consistent? You know, I was

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 4>just speaking in jail and the gen Z count of

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 4>jail on third day talking to here in Michigan. If

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 4>you're in jail awaiting trial, you can vote. If you

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 4>have on probation parole, you can vote fell any conviction

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 4>you vote. So it's wide open voting, uh, for for

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, being involved in the system here. And so

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't believe conviction should ever inhibit you from participating

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 4>fully in all things that are that that that are

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 4>in this country. And I also believe that once you

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 4>serve your time, that that that your record should be sealed.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 4>We should ban the box and and sure it can

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 4>be uncovered if a future situation happens. But at the

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 4>end of the day, once you've done your time, no

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 4>one has any business of what your history should be.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>And so so that's my feeling about all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's what I preserve.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I said, okay here, So so the firewall

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 3>has to be the US Senate, you know, and that's

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>why being a senator, uh, we control the money.

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 4>The president can can sign executive orders and attempt to

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 4>do things at the margins. But at the end of

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 4>the day, the United States Senate controls the budget, you know,

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 4>the House of Representatives, all those House members. They send

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 4>a bill to the Senate. The Senate can amend it,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 4>send it back, change the title, do all sorts of things.

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, one hundred people control

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 4>two really important things. The lifetime appointment of federal judges,

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 4>and we see how that affects us every day. And

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 4>then also how the money's gone. My grandmam used to say, baby,

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>follow the money. You won't to anything about somebody. Look

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 4>at how they spend their money. Look at our country.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Now we spend our money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 4>To represent increases in the National Defense Authorization Act, even

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 4>if the President wants to do that. So we have

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 4>to have a firewall to fight back. And I would

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 4>be able to fight back from the United States Senate,

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 4>And that to me is the key. We were going

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 4>to fight and represent the values of the people who

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 4>send me there and and what the history is. And

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 4>so no matter who's in the presidency, I'm going to

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 4>be fighting. I'm going to hold both parties accountable. I'm

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 4>just to be honest with you, you know, both parties

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 4>have been derelict in certain ways to our community, and

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 4>so I'm going to be there holding both parties accountable

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 4>for sure or who is in the executive branch.

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, you took my next question and answered it,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and that is a testament to your brilliance and to

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>your finger being on the post, because the question I

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 1>was going to ask you is will you be a Democratic?

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Go get along, to go along whatever the Democrats say

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>with the president says, because you know that was one

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of the things that they used against Jamal Bowman and

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in fact, Jamaal Bowman's election. What was that June twenty fifth,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe June twenty fifth, the same day I was

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>in Saint Louis, Missouri, sitting in a sports bar looking

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>at seven screens above my head, and each one of

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 1>them was it was all sports news, some Latino, different

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>languages every few minutes. The commercial that they ran in

0:37:55.680 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis was against Cory Bush with the same exact

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>language that they used against Jamal Bowman, and the main

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>point was that she does not and of course that

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Jamal does not support the president, has voted against the president,

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and it is harming us when our Democrats don't work

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>with the president. And yet when you listen to Congressman

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Bowmen and Congresswoman Bush explain what's loaded into these bills

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and how sometimes either you can lose things that are

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>important in our communities and sometimes there can be things

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>in the bills that are harmful for our communities. And

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>therefore they have used their vote as leverage in for

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats and Republicans and whoever else. So just as

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a final word on that, and you can close it up,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>give us a vote tide on whether we can depend

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on you to be a thinker and a person who

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>will be for the people and not just for partner.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolute and.

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<v Speaker 4>The establishment doesn't want me in this seed, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, because they know I'll be independent thinker.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 4>They understand that I'm going to fight for people. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to fight you. Remember the first three words

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<v Speaker 4>of both the Michigan Constitution and the US constitutions are

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<v Speaker 4>saying we the people. It doesn't say we the party.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't say we the politician. It doesn't say we

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<v Speaker 4>the super pac doesn't say we the big donor. It

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<v Speaker 4>says we the people. I'm going to fight for people

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why I'm running. And so at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, if something's coming down that doesn't fit

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<v Speaker 4>for people, then I'm not going forward and I won't

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So you know, I hope folks will go

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<v Speaker 4>to the website Hill Harper dot com or two dollars

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<v Speaker 4>makes the difference. We're trying to run ads, We're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get the word out to get people to vote.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So many people don't even know what a primary is,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're having to educate our community about August sixth

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<v Speaker 4>and the primary. There's nine days of early in person

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<v Speaker 4>voting July twenty seven, August fourth. There's absentee voting going

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<v Speaker 4>on right now, and so this is the moment where

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<v Speaker 4>we really need people's help. Dave Chappelle just helped me

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<v Speaker 4>out a lot by doing a big fundraiser for me

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<v Speaker 4>this past Thursday in Detroiting, which was huge because you

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<v Speaker 4>know him to stand up and you know he's selling

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<v Speaker 4>out arenas and for him to come and do something

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<v Speaker 4>for me meant so much. And so any anybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I need both of y'all to come on up. We

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<v Speaker 4>need to do during early voting. We need to do

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<v Speaker 4>an event. We could we could do the show live

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<v Speaker 4>from Detroit or live from Grand Rapid. So just any help, folks,

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<v Speaker 4>please please, please, God bless you, and let's let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an opportunity that we can't miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Hill, We appreciate you.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Hell great, we got your back. And if you need

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<v Speaker 2>us out there and were coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, I need you. Say let's say, let's come on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm praying for Hill. You know, I'm praying for him.

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm praying for him because I know from the years

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and years and years of being Hill's friend and seeing

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>him the world, that he really has a passion for

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>black folks.

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>He has everything that's necessary to leave like he.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Really should absolutely be the senator. The problem, though, is

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that when I think about what happened to Jamaal Bowman,

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think about how so many black people lined

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>up behind the white man, even though the white man

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is one hundred percent a supporter of you know, Israel,

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and look at what's happening right now. And guess what.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.919
<v Speaker 1>These same black people claim that they don't that they

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>want to cease fire and they are against what's happening

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in Israel, and yet they supported the candidate who with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent fund and back the assault on the

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>people of gossip, these black folks. So it gives me,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes away, It kind of reduces my hope for

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hell because I don't know about our people sometimes.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, unfortunately. All we can do is fight, man,

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and just stand on the right side of history, stand

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>on the right side of morality and integrity, you know.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And Hill has always represented that, you know, and I

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>just believe that we just have to convince there. Like

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>he said, twenty percent of the people, we get twenty percent,

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and we know that two out of ten people want

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the right candidate to be in office, right. We just

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.240
<v Speaker 2>got to make sure that they understand what's at state.

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>We got to make sure that they understand when it's

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 2>time to go out to vote, you know. And that's

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 2>what the opposition is is very good at doing. They're

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:51.439
<v Speaker 2>good at making making their base understand that we need

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you to come out. We making sure that their base

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 2>knows when it's time to vote, you know, And we

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 2>have we have not been all the time. We have

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>not done that the best. So I think, you know, hopefully, yeah,

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, like black voters matter. Melanie Campbell on the National

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Coalition of Black Civic Participation got Mary pat Hector and

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>those that you know are down in Georgia. I mean

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>there are groups around the nation, but I understand what

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. The Republicans send out like a back call

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>when they need people to support them, and then their

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>people are and unfortunately not all Republicans, but so many

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of them are motivated by ham and on on.

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 2>The niggas that they're doing. They're not just the Republicans,

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>are funding the Democrats that lean Republican now, right, So

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. They got a double strategy like

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<v Speaker 2>they Democrats. Is not fun to say, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get the best Republican person that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>we can lean a little bit, and we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>money behind them so that we're on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't advanced. I was that's their new strategy. Now

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>they're pretty much putting people in our party that lean

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<v Speaker 2>more towards them.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And it might not be new because how did Christian

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Cinema and Joe Manchin get there? Who are people who

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>are older. I don't know how long Christian Cinema was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate, but I know Joe Manchin was around

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and so you know, this is this

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 1>is a strategy they've probably been using for a long time.

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Not to mention when you think about somebody like APAC.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>APAC also funds both sides, right, So you know it

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is a very it's a strategy that they use. And

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some people will listen to us and be like, oh,

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats do similar. Well, who just get me the

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>name of the Republican that is constantly or not so

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>much constantly, but has a good track record of leaning

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<v Speaker 1>in the more progressive direction or more of a liberal direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him either.

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean in the end of his you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his time in office, I guess Mitt

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Romney became a little bit because Romney was like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those Republicans that's like, y'all is MAGA is not

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>my faith. I'm not with MAGA. But I mean when

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you look back over Mitt Romney's record, he also has

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 1>some questionable shit. So it's like, I just don't know.

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway, moving right along.

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Moving right along, which brings me to my I don't

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 2>get it. There was a tenth on Donald Trump life

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days ago, and there's a lot of

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>speculation of why who this, and that, you know, what

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 2>party did it? Who did it? You know, I've seen

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>so many different things. I've heard so many different allegations,

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I wrote on my page, you know

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the day that it happened is that you know, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is a result in my in my position,

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>this is a result of the last eight years of

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the climate that the MAGA, the whole MAGA campaign has created.

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what, the level of intense and division. I

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen this much since slavery, before, since before civil rights.

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people say, oh, America is and

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not saying that it hasn't. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying to the level that I have seen it in

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<v Speaker 2>the last eight years. In my personal experience, I've never

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>had more encounters and personal encounters with family friends, had

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the same personal encounters with levels of racism, levels of hate.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've never seen blatant, you know, unabridged, you know,

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>boasted hate that I've seen. And I've never seen the

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Proud Boys like I've read about the KKK and and

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that they existed, but I never seen them

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>outside like I was seeing in the last eight years,

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.360
<v Speaker 2>you know. And unfortunately, when you create that level of hate,

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>when you foster that when you talk about beating up protesters,

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>and when you when you talk about when you when

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you you incite the insurrection, you know, when you constantly

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 2>talk about violence, and when you talk about the police

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>should be able to do what they want to people,

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 2>when you create.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>That energy, they'll say they never said police should be

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>able to do whatever they want.

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you're saying that they have when they should

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>have community, that means that if your immunity then you can't.

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Then that means you can kill her or do whatever

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 2>to someone with impunity. So this is the reality of

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>what this is. This is the energy. I've watched Donald

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Trump sit there and say, yeah, you should punch him

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a little harder, get him off the state. Yeah, just

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 2>rough them up a little bit. Like I've literally watched

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>him these things. This is not what I think he said,

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, these are things that we watch. So the

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>energy that he him and MAGA has created over the

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>eight years led to this. And the reality is you

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 2>don't want to see anybody get shot. You don't want

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>anybody to be hung, but you cannot ignore that when

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 2>someone creates an energy and it comes back to them

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>how it started and where it comes from, you know,

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 2>And I don't. What I don't get is how people

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 2>don't get that. You know, millions of people, I mean

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of people on my page talking about all what

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? Youth? What are you talking about?

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Trump's never done any of this. This is not And

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm trying to figure out am I in

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the twilight zone because I don't know where someone has

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>to be to not be able to see what the

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>climate is. I say this all the time. Every Trump

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 2>supporter is not a racist, right, but every racist is

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>a Trump supporter. You can't explain to me how all

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the racists follow one person and that you're saying is

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>unifying us, but they don't follow anybody else. You can't.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 2>You can't act like when Obama was president he wasn't

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and Trump wasn't even a candidate, that the level of

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 2>racism and division that he caused during Obama's presidency wasn't crazy.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 2>You can't say that he didn't try to create a

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 2>climent to actually have Obama hurt you. He questioned the

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>men's legitimacy, he questioned everything about and this was a

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>black candidate and he ran as an opposition as a result,

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, to Obama's presidency. The whole Maga campaign was saying,

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 2>y'all really let a black man run this country, and

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 2>we're going to we're gonna change that ship. If we're

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 2>not gonna allow shit like that to happen again. It was,

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a backlash. So if you if

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>people are blind to that, if you if you sitting

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 2>there trying to act like you don't realize that you

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>know that. I don't know what what you're watching. I

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know what part of you know, the show that

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you tuned into. But this has been the rhetoric and

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I can say it's been for over eight years because he,

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 2>like I said, he did it during Obama's presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, I agree with you one

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. I mean, anybody who's acting like they don't

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>know either they're dumb or they're just trying to act

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 1>like they're dumb. We know. Donald Trump has said the

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>most inciting things ever, Like some of the stuff that

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>he says, people are like, oh my god, I can't

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>believe it. And in fact, some of the very people

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>who probably are telling you that he didn't you know,

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't he didn't do anything to deserve to be shot,

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>which he didn't. We're not gonna We're not gonna say

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that he deserved to be shot.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying. But at the end of the day,

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, those same people will

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.919
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, he just did some mean to It's

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>just mean tweets. So if you know about the mean tweets,

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>what we've been saying is we didn't consider them to

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>be mean tweets. We consider them to be dangerous tweets.

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>So you word mean, we're saying they were dangerous, and

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that that was our issue in the first place. Okay,

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>when he told the police officers, like you said, you know,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>when you pick him up, rub them up, you know,

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 1>put him in the car, bang them up a little bit,

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.399
<v Speaker 1>this is what he said. So of course that he's

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>giving people a boldness. You and and and at the

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, my son, let's get to the

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:41.160
<v Speaker 1>simple fact so that we can stop going rigging him around.

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>The Rosie the Man led an insurrection against the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the government. The man had people that he knew. He

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in his office in the White House, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were begging him to call and make a tweet,

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<v Speaker 1>do something to stop people from running up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the Capitol, from running inside the building,

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<v Speaker 1>chasing looking for Nancy Pelosi, going into the office of

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<v Speaker 1>these folks, hooping on their desks, taking their equipment, going

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<v Speaker 1>to looking for chasing Mike Pence. Somebody got killed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this happened under Donald Trump. And he's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that said we're gonna walk down here. He's these

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<v Speaker 1>were his words. He led the people. He led the people.

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<v Speaker 1>At Clarence Thomas, who is on the Supreme Court, he

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<v Speaker 1>votes against everything everything, almost everything that we consider to

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<v Speaker 1>be progressive. Uh, you know, policy and or law that

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<v Speaker 1>needs that we need for our communities. Okay. He has

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<v Speaker 1>been an adversary for a long time. His wife helped

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for the insurrection. So I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>when people sit there and try to act like they

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<v Speaker 1>have not created this environment, it's crap not to mention.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just talk about the Central Park five and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. Okay, Donald Trump took a full page add

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<v Speaker 1>out against young boys who did not commit the crime

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<v Speaker 1>that they were accused of, that they went to prison

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<v Speaker 1>for for years. Okay, when asked about it recently after

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that those young men or those men now

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<v Speaker 1>had been cleared, he still doubled down and did not say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I apologize or you know this, I was

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<v Speaker 1>misinformed or misled, right, which is what you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody who's not trying to incite violence, who is

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<v Speaker 1>this you know, stellar individual that people keep trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the one thing about us. We don't sit

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<v Speaker 1>up here and say that that Joe Biden is this

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<v Speaker 1>great individual who's done like That's some people who do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't do that, right So Donald Trump ain't shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So say that. And then when you say that, then

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, but I still fuck with him on

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<v Speaker 1>I rock with him on this policy, that policy to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that, give me a policy, and I respect that

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<v Speaker 2>if you give me a policy that you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that this benefits me, I don't really fuck with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I can acknowledge all the bullshit he's done, but I

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<v Speaker 2>still this policy right here is gonna benefit me in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, and so that's why, and I think everything

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<v Speaker 2>else is irrelevant to me. I can respect that for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to say that this right here, that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>saying this was trying to tell people to kill or

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<v Speaker 2>shoot Trump. He said, he said, I have a job,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's to beat Donald Trump. I'm absolutely certain I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the best person to be able to do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're done talking about the debate. It's trying to put

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in the bullseye. And they said that meant to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot him.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get this straight. A Republican king heard Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic president, say that and then say, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the one to go do it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, beat him in an election.

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<v Speaker 2>But none of the ship that Trump been saying about

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<v Speaker 2>literal violence, speaking on violence and saying that violence should happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and saying do it a little harder, and saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all these things that were pertaining to the

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<v Speaker 2>exact violence that was going on, he didn't really mean it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just mean tweets. As you said, like, we

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<v Speaker 2>just got to stop the bullshit. Man. At some point,

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit gotta stop. And with that, we've come to the

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