Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of not necessarily Busting with the Boys,
Speaker 1: but the Bustin's our first busting spring football tour. We
Speaker 1: have on Eric Chinander coach Chins. He's the decordinator for
Speaker 1: the Huskers and Shirts. Obviously your very own Scott Frost.
Speaker 1: Let's give a hand for the coaches coming on the show.
Speaker 2: You guys do little juice.
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Speaker 2: Care of you. All right.
Speaker 1: I busted my ass for that dude for years with
Speaker 1: the boys trailer hitch cover. We got you, We got you.
Speaker 1: But uh, I appreciate you guys for coming on. The
Speaker 1: show's baked time. Actually it really ispect time. I appreciate this.
Speaker 1: It's nice coming to a place like this, like Nebraska.
Speaker 1: You don't know a lot about it. You've only seen
Speaker 1: it a couple of times when you go to play,
Speaker 1: I got our ass beat here.
Speaker 2: Then you come in.
Speaker 3: Will, it takes me some bullshit place called Indian Village,
Speaker 3: and you really hope, like I hope you guys can
Speaker 3: tell me some places to go eat after this, because
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to tell us for a while, but
Speaker 3: I want to wait for you guys. I sit there,
Speaker 3: I look at Will in the eyes, and I say, Hey,
Speaker 3: take me somewhere that screams Nebrassic corner huskers, somewhere that
Speaker 3: I can feel like I'm a native. I'm in this place.
Speaker 3: I'm with these blue collar people live in the dream.
Speaker 5: He says.
Speaker 3: Say less drives me. We turned the corner because we're
Speaker 3: in the Indian Village. It does a registerage in What
Speaker 3: the fuck.
Speaker 2: Llage in?
Speaker 3: When I say Indian village, Yeah, that's a small little
Speaker 3: place that we gave Creek my back. We go to
Speaker 3: village in and he says village into me and I think, oh,
Speaker 3: that sounds like a small little mom and pop shop.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a little deal. We turned the corner.
Speaker 3: I see the brown octagon or whatever their fucking symbol
Speaker 3: is that sits on the side of the corner and
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's two dozen of these things in Arizona.
Speaker 2: What am I doing here? I walk in It's full
Speaker 2: of oxygen tanks and walkers. Dude, it's only old people everywhere.
Speaker 2: And Will's like, hey.
Speaker 5: Huh, looks at me like, hey, this is about to
Speaker 5: be a hitter bro.
Speaker 2: I'm so mad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is the place we sit down. The lady,
Speaker 3: the waiters, she's sweetest pie. The guys, the guys sitting
Speaker 3: behind us were assholes.
Speaker 2: Didn't like them one bit.
Speaker 3: The food was okay at best, and halfway through, Will goes,
Speaker 3: I fucked up.
Speaker 2: I should take you somewhere else. I'm like, no, no doubt.
Speaker 2: He's told it was a good time.
Speaker 3: We told the equipment guys where we went, and they're
Speaker 3: killing Will. And obviously you guys knew you guys walked
Speaker 3: right up here was giving Will hell for it.
Speaker 4: We'll get you set up with some good places, with
Speaker 4: some local spots, some places to get you a little lunch,
Speaker 4: a little dinner.
Speaker 2: Where should we be going around here? Do you not
Speaker 2: know that? Well?
Speaker 4: Putting it in there, I'm putting it in there. You know,
Speaker 4: no free shoutouts. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: Afterwards. Okay, I love that.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 1: Hey, did you see the postcards that they're making for recruits? Now,
Speaker 1: they got busts on the boys on there a little bit.
Speaker 1: Who knows how many they actually send out.
Speaker 3: If they send out one, we've made it right, one
Speaker 3: of the most historic programs in all of college football.
Speaker 3: Stating a postcard with our bus on it, with you
Speaker 3: in short shorts and Daisy Duke shorts cowboy boots.
Speaker 2: It's outstanding. What a recruiting pitch.
Speaker 4: I told them all we were going on here today,
Speaker 4: so they all wanted us to set the link. So
Speaker 4: we're gonna send the link to all the recruits. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know they want to see coach frost On busting
Speaker 4: with the boys.
Speaker 2: So were you they come back on a second time?
Speaker 5: I can't believe I got invited back first of all,
Speaker 5: but I had a great time. You were here for
Speaker 5: one of the games. Got to come on the by
Speaker 5: What game was that? By the way, which game wasn't
Speaker 5: Michigan Michigan? Yeah, absolutely dominant performance. What did you think
Speaker 5: about the atmosphere of Taylor?
Speaker 2: Oh? I when I played when I played here though,
Speaker 2: at the game, you were right, Oh you didn't you
Speaker 2: didn't come Okay, yeah no.
Speaker 3: But I will say about the atmosphere is it's insane.
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me because when you come to Nebraska,
Speaker 3: it's in Nebraska's Nebraska, and you go into the stadium
Speaker 3: and it's so loud, it's obnoxious, and everyone's screaming at you.
Speaker 3: But as soon as the game's over all the fans
Speaker 3: are like, hey, great job. It's like a nice little
Speaker 3: firm pat in the asses. I send you on your way.
Speaker 3: That's a great deal.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 4: When I when we first got here, everybody was like,
Speaker 4: wait till you come out on game day and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, listen, I've been you know, SEC stadiums packed,
Speaker 4: twelve NFL stadiums, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We came out for the spring game and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god. Yeah, I mean, these fans are the
Speaker 4: best in the country, hands down. It's it's a crazy atmosphere.
Speaker 4: And that night, will you were there, that Michigan game
Speaker 4: was out of control.
Speaker 1: Dude, it was man and it was such bullshit that
Speaker 1: they didn't blow the damn whistle when Adrian was stood up.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That that's you know, I won't put you guys on
Speaker 1: the spot, but wouldn't you agree.
Speaker 2: We just we just need to not fumble, first of all.
Speaker 5: But it was I got so much respect for them,
Speaker 5: and I was happy to see them in the playoff.
Speaker 5: And you know, that's that was kind of the story
Speaker 5: of our year. We were so against a playoff team.
Speaker 5: We had every chance to win the game at the
Speaker 5: end of the game. But to your point, between the
Speaker 5: third and fourth quarter, uh, they started playing music and
Speaker 5: the lights shut off, and then they had started going
Speaker 5: around the stadium and we were ahead at the time,
Speaker 5: and it maybe we even had one of the Michigan
Speaker 5: coaches tell us on the road it was the best
Speaker 5: environment they played in all years.
Speaker 2: So a lot of respect for them, and that was
Speaker 2: a heck of a game.
Speaker 3: To be fair to you guys, you're you're the best
Speaker 3: three and nine team of all time. If you guys
Speaker 3: would have played Georgia instead of Michigan playing Georgia, you
Speaker 3: guys would have lost.
Speaker 1: So funny coaches, the actual coaches then, but legit like that's.
Speaker 5: Kind of like one game you lost by more than seven.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like being the prettiest turd in the toilet,
Speaker 2: no question. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: But if he says, yeah, but listen, you're not talking
Speaker 1: to me anymore, I know, Like it's tough. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then he started telling like, oh, these are their actual jobs,
Speaker 1: Like you're trying, but if you can't, okay, back pedaling
Speaker 1: Nebraska three and nine, I know it's tough.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get passes in a second. How do you
Speaker 3: guys change where Nebraska is? Back to the ninety seven?
Speaker 3: It's betting mentioned with the top four.
Speaker 5: It's been a process, you know, and and I don't
Speaker 5: like to talk about what happened here before, but Nebraska
Speaker 5: was always one of the elite programs in the country.
Speaker 5: That's not where we found it when we came back,
Speaker 5: and it's been a process to try to build it back,
Speaker 5: you know. And that's culture, that's talent, that's a hundred things.
Speaker 5: And we had a good enough team last year to
Speaker 5: win every game we played. We didn't and that's on
Speaker 5: all of us to do a little bit better. But
Speaker 5: the progress is undeniable, and I think everybody that watched
Speaker 5: this last year can see how close we are to
Speaker 5: being a good team. And now it's up to us
Speaker 5: to put the little missing pieces and ingredients and to
Speaker 5: make sure it gets there.
Speaker 3: What have you seen on a spring practice this year
Speaker 3: to last year that's maybe shown that promise that you're
Speaker 3: looking forward to.
Speaker 5: There's so much enthusiasm excitement around this right now, and
Speaker 5: a lot of it is because, you know, there's a
Speaker 5: chip on our shoulders because of how it all went
Speaker 5: last year. The guys that are back, no, we were
Speaker 5: good enough to win those games, and so there's a
Speaker 5: real motivation there. We've also added some new coaches and
Speaker 5: new players. You know, you guys sat with Casey and
Speaker 5: there's been a just kind of an energizing movement from
Speaker 5: those guys. It's kind of invigorated all of us just
Speaker 5: to have new faces around here.
Speaker 2: And the guys are hungry.
Speaker 5: So the effort is awesome on the field, and we
Speaker 5: still got a long way to go, but we're seeing
Speaker 5: a lot of good.
Speaker 1: Things being Scott Frost in Nebraska. And it's such an
Speaker 1: easy asking question to say, you know, what's it gonna
Speaker 1: take to get back to the nineties and this and that?
Speaker 1: Do you fucking hate that question?
Speaker 2: By now?
Speaker 1: No, this is a great show to be honest on too.
Speaker 1: Like we have a little fun I.
Speaker 5: Mean, that's my job is to do that, and so
Speaker 5: that's what I think about all day long anyway, So
Speaker 5: if somebody asked me, they're just catching me mid thought,
Speaker 5: you know. But you know, this place wasn't what it
Speaker 5: was once coach Soltz left. Frankly, Coach Polini did an
Speaker 5: awesome job and he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's been on a downside for a while, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Will the every great program in the country has
Speaker 5: gone through a downturn and it's just hard to recapture.
Speaker 5: If you never lose it, it's a lot easier. It's
Speaker 5: like getting out of shape when you're old. Like if
Speaker 5: you never stop working out, you're fine. But coach Frost
Speaker 5: can't hurt squatting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hurt myself, Squad.
Speaker 5: That's a tough deal. So it's the down hill for you.
Speaker 5: Like I'm fighting back, You're fighting back. I'm fighting back.
Speaker 2: God, you know.
Speaker 5: But this has been a process and I think about
Speaker 5: it all the time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: For us to be a lead again, NIL has really
Speaker 5: got to take shape in Nebraska.
Speaker 2: We got to be able to recruit a little better.
Speaker 2: You got to catch.
Speaker 5: Momentum where you have a good year, and then you
Speaker 5: recruit better and have another good year.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: This is as good as college town as there is
Speaker 5: in the country. We have the best fan based in
Speaker 5: the country. Like he said, we have all the resources.
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of getting the wind in our
Speaker 5: sales again.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's not going to be a giant leap. It's
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna be a steady climb.
Speaker 1: Coach Chin's like when he talks about finding the advantages
Speaker 1: and like recruiting, whether it be an il like because
Speaker 1: being a player here, you know, the the shtick is
Speaker 1: always when you're in those recruiting meetings, right, like, if
Speaker 1: we can get the player here and they see the facilities,
Speaker 1: you guys are obviously building what is it a two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars facility out there?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: Like, what are the areas that you want to really
Speaker 1: dive into? It seems like it's gonna it's its facilities
Speaker 1: in an IL.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think those are two of the you know, major
Speaker 4: sticking points. But it's also the people at Nebraska and
Speaker 4: like Coach Frost said, the resources from nutrition to strength
Speaker 4: and conditioning, to academic support to life skills as you know,
Speaker 4: as a player here. Nil is going to be huge
Speaker 4: for us. The new facility is going to be huge,
Speaker 4: and then you know, it's as you've seen as the
Speaker 4: team's grown, like Coach Frost talked about, it's, you know,
Speaker 4: really taking care of that five hundred mile radius, getting
Speaker 4: those players here, starting with that base, and then adding
Speaker 4: some really good players from across the country. We've always
Speaker 4: been a national recruiting brand from back when coaches talking
Speaker 4: about the nineties to all the way until now. So
Speaker 4: it's really starting with those local guys. I would consider
Speaker 4: it all that five hundred mile area, that local guys,
Speaker 4: and then getting some pieces from across the country. And
Speaker 4: we want to target the best ones in the country
Speaker 4: that we can right now, especially with those those things
Speaker 4: you mentioned.
Speaker 2: How long how long until that new facility is all done?
Speaker 5: I think next summer, So we'll go through this entire
Speaker 5: the year and springball next year and move in before
Speaker 5: the twenty three.
Speaker 2: US are sharing those renditions with the new recruits and
Speaker 2: everything like that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they see them, and very soon we'll be
Speaker 5: able to walk them through it with hard hats on
Speaker 5: and explain where they're going to be living for the
Speaker 5: next four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's outstanding. The facilities are pretty unbelievable. I love
Speaker 3: the weight room, the locker room. It seems like a
Speaker 3: really close knit group like family. The equipment guys get
Speaker 3: along with the guys who are the trainers, and it
Speaker 3: just seems like everyone's kind of like put together around here.
Speaker 3: Everyone cares and is all pushing the cart towards the
Speaker 3: same direct.
Speaker 2: That's why we'll mentioned it.
Speaker 5: But when we get kids on campus and they come
Speaker 5: see it, we got a great chance to get them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And part of that is honestly just people's impression versus
Speaker 5: the reality of what Lincoln Nebraska's like. We get kids
Speaker 5: from Florida that they think they're going to come up
Speaker 5: and there's a stadium in the middle of a cornfield somewhere.
Speaker 5: I see Lincoln, and those kids sit on my couch
Speaker 5: and say, man, coach, this is awesome.
Speaker 2: I didn't always anything like this.
Speaker 5: But we're also far away from a lot of those
Speaker 5: recruiting pockets. So when we get the link and we
Speaker 5: got a great shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how like, what's the process like trying to
Speaker 3: get these kids? Like you've ver eye on somebody who's
Speaker 3: in Florida, Pokey Florida. How like, how do you pitch
Speaker 3: them to come to Pokey Flora's little little spot. Now
Speaker 3: the monk saying the muck, but yeah, that place is wild,
Speaker 3: But how do you get someone like from that area
Speaker 3: to come here? You know, like, how would you sell
Speaker 3: them on that? Because me, my first thought, just lie
Speaker 3: to them and whatever they want to hear, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I was a coach, I'm lying through my teeth.
Speaker 2: It's funny. When I sit down with kids.
Speaker 5: One of the first thing I tell them is gets
Speaker 5: your BS detector out, because you have to be able
Speaker 5: to tell the between the people that are telling you
Speaker 5: the truth and just telling you what you want to
Speaker 5: hear to get you to their school.
Speaker 3: Right, Because if somebody says, hey, you you'll play for us,
Speaker 3: and then another coach says, hey, you got to earn
Speaker 3: your spot to play, Like based on that kid's personality,
Speaker 3: he's gonna pick one way or the other.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you want the kid
Speaker 5: that's going to come that says you have to earn it.
Speaker 5: Because if a kid wants to come to your school
Speaker 5: just because you lie to them and tell them they're
Speaker 5: going to start early, probably not the right kid to
Speaker 5: have in your program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But there's also those kids that just started.
Speaker 1: I mean you so you heard Casey talking about he
Speaker 1: went in that transfer pool a little after his freshman
Speaker 1: year because he thought he was gonna be the man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he told that he was gonna start or something like
Speaker 1: that at Texas. Yeah, probably something like that. But you
Speaker 1: also have those kids that, like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: put a name out there. That's like you got with
Speaker 1: all the talent in the world, doesn't matter, He's just
Speaker 1: gonna be did no matter what. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the guys are crazy talent and that
Speaker 1: don't work very hard, but there's still gonna be like
Speaker 1: first round picks, right you guys.
Speaker 2: You don't want to soil the guys out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a couple.
Speaker 4: I think that's when why you have to get him
Speaker 4: here though, you know, we have to do a good
Speaker 4: job and get him here. And like you said, the
Speaker 4: same thing people, the same thing with the state of
Speaker 4: Nebraska right where you played Michigan. There's Michigan, Michigan State,
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. Right, there's nil money going three separate entities,
Speaker 4: there's fans going three separate ways, and in this state
Speaker 4: it bleeds Husker, that's it. And so you got a
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of resources, a lot of everything
Speaker 4: weren't into this program and it's unbelievable to be part
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: That's definitely a way for you guys to become like
Speaker 3: one of the household names in college football. Again, is
Speaker 3: that nil? You guys have said it a bunch already,
Speaker 3: But like.
Speaker 2: In case he was you know, Casey and Garrett were
Speaker 2: both alluding to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you have the best NIL programs, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't matter what the landscape looks like, if you
Speaker 3: made that kind of money, like, that's gonna that's gonna
Speaker 3: sell for sure, because I remember being, like I was
Speaker 3: telling you guys before we started the public I didn't
Speaker 3: gw up with a lot of money, Like the thought
Speaker 3: of like making six figures in college.
Speaker 2: It's it's mine where that money had gone.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there have been a lot of party going involved.
Speaker 3: My nose is a bit of a vacuum in college
Speaker 3: it was. It probably would have gone a lot of
Speaker 3: the wrong places. To be totally honest with you, I
Speaker 3: would not have been a guy you would have liked
Speaker 3: to have around too much in college, I would have
Speaker 3: worked hard though.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would I would have loved
Speaker 2: you in practice, I promise, Oh, no question. At Oregon.
Speaker 3: At Oregon, we would have slayed it together, it together,
Speaker 3: partied hard, come in. Yeah, I think a little bit
Speaker 3: of like alcohol, Well, we're going the entire practice, right, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't got the salt like that anymore. I can't
Speaker 2: be drinking all the time. How do you guys, how
Speaker 2: do you guys manage that?
Speaker 1: Obviously we're in like what is it like year two,
Speaker 1: the whole nil stuff when you've got kids coming in there,
Speaker 1: getting all these nil deals and everything else, Like, how
Speaker 1: do you kind of I guess mentor monitor, you know.
Speaker 2: Keep guys focused, keep amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep the main thing, the main thing, and kind
Speaker 1: of I guess navigate with them, like through this nil landscape.
Speaker 5: The great thing the state lawn in Nebraska is we
Speaker 5: can't as employees of University Nebraska, we can't have anything
Speaker 5: to do with NIOL and And honestly that's the best
Speaker 5: thing for us, because I don't want two guys complaining.
Speaker 2: To me that he's getting this and I'm not getting this.
Speaker 5: So it's run by another company in Lincoln, and that's
Speaker 5: the way it needs to stay opens. No, Well, they
Speaker 5: do a lot for us and they've been awesome. That's
Speaker 5: Nebraska guys that started that deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake and Audie shot out the boys.
Speaker 5: They're awesome. We have another company that helps helps our players. Really,
Speaker 5: football players, basketball players, women's basketball, volleyball are all take
Speaker 5: advantage of it. We have over eighty kids and just
Speaker 5: in football that have taken advantage of it, men's basketball, volleyball.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on like that.
Speaker 5: But having it in somewhere else, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: want to have to deal with that on a day
Speaker 5: to day basis.
Speaker 2: We just want to coach football.
Speaker 1: Right right, But knowing that that stuff goes on. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about you distributing anything or being involved in it,
Speaker 1: but knowing like kids are going through that shit now
Speaker 1: and where it's not like you're not coming to school
Speaker 1: just to be a student athlete anymore. You have this
Speaker 1: component of money and knowing that guys are coming in
Speaker 1: whether it's yeah, whether it's more ego or not. Like
Speaker 1: managing these players to stay focused on the task at
Speaker 1: hand and why they came to school here or why
Speaker 1: they came to school to play football.
Speaker 5: First, there are a thousand more distractions than when I played, several.
Speaker 2: Hundred more even than when you played.
Speaker 5: With everything going on in social media and all these
Speaker 5: opportunities for kids, and that's why we have to be
Speaker 5: selected and make sure we're getting the right kids that
Speaker 5: are here for the right reasons. And if they're getting
Speaker 5: all that on top of it, great, But the first
Speaker 5: thing needs to say, the first thing, and that's education
Speaker 5: and making yourself great on and off the field. And
Speaker 5: so we got to look for those type of guys
Speaker 5: and guys that aren't just here for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: See, I don't know, if I don't know.
Speaker 3: For me, it's like if you could sell the idea
Speaker 3: of the NFL dream to all these kids that they're
Speaker 3: all trying to do, that's like the best thing.
Speaker 2: The whole academic part. You know.
Speaker 3: Hey, right, you're a student athlete. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You're a you're a student first athlete. Second, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I think that's the move when you're trying
Speaker 3: to get guys. But hey, listen, obviously have different what's
Speaker 3: that Taylor?
Speaker 2: Did you graduate?
Speaker 3: Unfortunately? I did good for you unfortunately. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 3: used my degree once and what general studies. It was
Speaker 3: a jack of all trades, master of none, but I
Speaker 3: followed them. Yeah, I think I wish I would have
Speaker 3: took college more seriously when I was at Michigan, Like
Speaker 3: I was all football all the time. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, like I feel like there should be with
Speaker 3: all this new advancement and stuff it's going on, like
Speaker 3: people being more progressive, like an il you can pay
Speaker 3: guys now, there needs to be more of a focus
Speaker 3: on like financial literacy and teaching these guys like how
Speaker 3: to run a business and how to understand what you
Speaker 3: what your.
Speaker 2: Possibility of making the NFL is.
Speaker 3: Everyone always plays like that, oh it's less than one
Speaker 3: percent of guys that are in college, But like, if
Speaker 3: you got a chance and that's your dream, like why
Speaker 3: not help these kids be most prepared for that and
Speaker 3: then have like some sort of setup where you can
Speaker 3: always come back in your schools and be paid for
Speaker 3: no matter what, but you can focus full time on football.
Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, it's a total pipe dream, it's
Speaker 3: totally totally out there, but it's a thought. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough because not a lot of guys like,
Speaker 1: there's not. It's so rare for a lot of guys
Speaker 1: to say, like, I have used my degree in eight years,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're you're like.
Speaker 2: No, I'm super super probable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a good fucking player, right, Yeah, not everybody
Speaker 1: gets to like have longer careers. I feel like the
Speaker 1: majority is still kind of like would need to use
Speaker 1: their degree, right.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the great band of course.
Speaker 5: I mean what the only ones that graduate from college
Speaker 5: aren't using their degree are either stupid or their inmates
Speaker 5: or drug addicts.
Speaker 2: I think unless the Pro Bowl player, and then I
Speaker 2: definitely won that category, dude, and the still got to
Speaker 2: use your degree, right. I think coach does a great
Speaker 2: job with it.
Speaker 4: Do I've been in some of the you know, the
Speaker 4: closing meetings at the end of recruiting visits with him,
Speaker 4: and I know one thing that's important to him is
Speaker 4: making sure that these guys have a plan for life
Speaker 4: after football, whether that happens like you ten years down
Speaker 4: the road, fifteen years down the road, or after your
Speaker 4: last snap and Lincoln and so you know keys Zimmer
Speaker 4: life skills. They do a great job starting the financial
Speaker 4: literacy with these young guys and then also bridging that
Speaker 4: gap between the end of their education and when they
Speaker 4: start their civilian life. So I think that Nebraska does
Speaker 4: a really good job with that piece of it.
Speaker 1: And even like life skills you mentioned Keithan stuff, but
Speaker 1: like you you've coached in the league, Like you have
Speaker 1: life skills that players want to like look to for
Speaker 1: either mentorship or anything else, because you have an idea
Speaker 1: what it's like to coach guys in the league, Like
Speaker 1: how do you use how do you use that mentality
Speaker 1: and your experience to develop players or have or communicate
Speaker 1: with them or lead them.
Speaker 4: I think you try to use it from the time
Speaker 4: they're freshmen till the time their seniors. You know, when
Speaker 4: you're in we're in unit meetings, we show a lot
Speaker 4: of NFL film, right because guys don't want to watch
Speaker 4: other college guys. They want to watch the Pro Sunday League, right, Absolutely,
Speaker 4: they want to watch that stuff. And also they want
Speaker 4: to know how do I get there? Well, I'm going
Speaker 4: to tell you how to get there, and you might
Speaker 4: not want to hear the answer. You know, it might
Speaker 4: be you got to study film differently or more, you
Speaker 4: got to take care of your body. You got to
Speaker 4: eat better, you have to practice a different way. You
Speaker 4: might have to play special teams even though you're a starter.
Speaker 4: You know, things like that. And so I think having
Speaker 4: the experience in that league, those kids understand that we're
Speaker 4: not filling full a bunch of bullshit. We're telling them
Speaker 4: the truth and getting guys like you to come back
Speaker 4: and talk to the guys a little bit and having
Speaker 4: other resources come in to tell them.
Speaker 2: It's not what you see on television.
Speaker 4: It's not hard knocks, right, it is hard knocks, but
Speaker 4: it's it's a different deal. It's a it's a three
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five day process, and it's not just
Speaker 4: about what happens two hours down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: With uh, with last year and the way the progress
Speaker 1: that the defense made, I know you guys lost some
Speaker 1: pieces like uh, I want to say what I was
Speaker 1: reading is you speaking on the continuity of the defense
Speaker 1: and carrying it over to the next year, Like, what
Speaker 1: are some some jumps you've seen the defense make in springball?
Speaker 4: I think you know, outside the schemaddics in the film,
Speaker 4: it's the leadership. I know you guys talked to Garrett
Speaker 4: Nelson a little bit, and there's there's other leaders that
Speaker 4: are really developing. Some of those guys that you saw
Speaker 4: last year that were really good players that may not
Speaker 4: have been.
Speaker 2: The old guys.
Speaker 4: Those guys are developing to some really good leaders, which
Speaker 4: I'm really happy about. And then we've been able to
Speaker 4: tweak the schemes a little bit. You never want to
Speaker 4: start over, you know, we want to keep as much
Speaker 4: same as same as as you can. But we've been
Speaker 4: able to tweak a few things and makes some improvements
Speaker 4: maybe where we were defishing a little bit last year
Speaker 4: schematically wise, and now we just got to plug some
Speaker 4: plug some new players.
Speaker 3: As far as Garrett Nelson goes talking to him, he
Speaker 3: makes you want to run through a wall, like like
Speaker 3: the kid bleeds Nebraska, like he loves everything about it.
Speaker 3: Like what's his leadership done for you guys going into
Speaker 3: this next year? Because he's got he was confused at
Speaker 3: how many years he has left, but I'm assuming it's
Speaker 3: one or two.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think he might be able
Speaker 4: to have three after COVID, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure right there. But he's he literally he
Speaker 3: bleeds it, like he was explaining to me, what it's
Speaker 3: like to get a black shirt, that process and everything
Speaker 3: like that, Like what other other guys like him on
Speaker 3: that defense that that exemplify that type of leadership.
Speaker 5: Or it's funny he didn't know how many years he
Speaker 5: had left because he's a general study, got no problem.
Speaker 4: Still, that's awesome, you know it is now we're seeing
Speaker 4: we're seeing some definite growth. You know, the two inside
Speaker 4: backers were really good players for US, Luke Rymer and Nick.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was a little stud tackling machine. Yep.
Speaker 4: And then you know Ty Robinson, another defense defensive lineman
Speaker 4: from Arizona.
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's.
Speaker 4: He played a lot of good football for US last
Speaker 4: year as a young guy, and he stepped up his
Speaker 4: leadership game. And then in the back end, you know,
Speaker 4: returning Quentin Newsom and Miles Farmer, those guys have got
Speaker 4: some leadership in that back end too. So all those guys,
Speaker 4: it's been nice to see them step up and with
Speaker 4: us plugging new guys in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from a from an offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 3: like Casey watching what was her name? Martinez Martinez last
Speaker 3: year and Casey this year?
Speaker 2: How are they?
Speaker 3: How are the two different? How are they similar, and
Speaker 3: what do you look.
Speaker 5: Forward to it, Casey, Yeah, we spent four years with
Speaker 5: Adrian and I love him. Uh, just a great human being.
Speaker 5: I think he needed a fresh start and I think
Speaker 5: we did too, I'm being honest. And transfer portal gives
Speaker 5: you an opportunity to do that both ways. And uh,
Speaker 5: you know, we hunted in the portal hard for the
Speaker 5: right guy and coach whipplin I both agreed on him,
Speaker 5: and he's been a great leader since he's been here,
Speaker 5: and just his competitive spirit him along with some of
Speaker 5: the other guys that are new, it's really kind of
Speaker 5: lifted the energy on our team and just that that
Speaker 5: drive and focus on our team.
Speaker 2: So it's fun to watch a team that he's leading
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: When you when you say that you guys both kind
Speaker 3: of wanted a fresh start. Was that like talked about
Speaker 3: it all towards the end or was it kind of
Speaker 3: like he mentioned leaving and you guys are like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a good.
Speaker 5: Idea, you should go. No, you know it In some
Speaker 5: ways for me, I spend so much time with these guys.
Speaker 5: When somebody leaves, it's kind of like breaking up with
Speaker 5: a girlfriend you've invested so much time and effort into
Speaker 5: somebody and trying to help them be good, and you
Speaker 5: hate to see him go. He invested so much and
Speaker 5: gave so much to this university too, so much time,
Speaker 5: effort and playing through injury, and I got a ton
Speaker 5: of respect for him. I think at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, the decision he made was probably the right
Speaker 5: one for him. And uh, I think in the end
Speaker 5: they will land in a good place too.
Speaker 2: Do you hate dealing with that portal stuff?
Speaker 5: If you got a real answer from every coach, they
Speaker 5: hate all the changes that are having.
Speaker 1: Right right, right right, because you know, obviously you get
Speaker 1: Casey and you're you know, go, we're getting somebody.
Speaker 2: Right, Somebody are like, well the portal sucks right right right?
Speaker 2: People leave, But like, yeah, what's it like mess with
Speaker 2: that portal business. It's the game now, So it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what I think.
Speaker 5: That's the game. We got to be the best we
Speaker 5: can at playing that game.
Speaker 3: There's a level of free agency, right, Like, it's basically
Speaker 3: the free agency in the NFL, And where's the cap number?
Speaker 2: Well, how's that stuff work? How's it?
Speaker 4: And I mean it's it's free agency with no cap.
Speaker 4: So it's it's the wild West right now, you know.
Speaker 4: And the difference is like you know, in the UH,
Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL, if you guys need a
Speaker 4: you know, another tight end, right you guys may feel
Speaker 4: like you need somebody else, whether it's for depth or
Speaker 4: to be a starter.
Speaker 2: You bring somebody else in.
Speaker 4: Everybody else under contract, they ain't going anywhere in college football.
Speaker 4: You bring somebody else in, somebody else might feel jaded
Speaker 4: about it, and they can just leave. So it's a
Speaker 4: it's a very it's a very delicate balancing act. And
Speaker 4: I think coach coach has a lot of UH stuff
Speaker 4: on his plate that goes into every decision. It's not
Speaker 4: as easy as people think. We're just that guy's in
Speaker 4: the portal, go get him perfect.
Speaker 5: The smart programs out there have figured it out there.
Speaker 5: They know they need n I own money and they're
Speaker 5: taking their decordinator salary and cutting it in half and
Speaker 5: then giving that.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I did seein's got a raise. We might
Speaker 1: need a you might have a snippy guy. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: some guys here.
Speaker 3: What do you think are you willing to do that
Speaker 3: for Nebraska? I mean, are we live right now? Probably
Speaker 3: coach for free just to get a national championship. Ain't
Speaker 3: no doubt, there's no doubt about it. Would you cut
Speaker 3: your dick off for a national title?
Speaker 4: I don't know if I could go that far. That's
Speaker 4: probably going a little far. I didn't even work harder
Speaker 4: than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, like last year we were
Speaker 1: an az and we were I was busting Tailor's balls
Speaker 1: and say, hey, would you take a million dollar pay
Speaker 1: cut if if the Titans would bring me back on
Speaker 1: the team, like you'd give me the money? And he's like, fuck, no,
Speaker 1: I can't bro I earned that, Yeah, for sure. But Jesus,
Speaker 1: you're trying to win.
Speaker 2: Well did you win? Did you wind win?
Speaker 3: I told my cl no, no, no, this past year,
Speaker 3: Oh no, we didn't. Exactly. That's a tough deal. You
Speaker 3: think we would have beat the Bengals if you funk
Speaker 3: out of here? You're probably right, you know what, You're
Speaker 3: probably right?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I got a question for you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys ask questions.
Speaker 4: Man, you talked about Nellie Garrett talked about his black shirt, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: I asked all the guys that come back.
Speaker 2: Usually it's in front of the guys, but this will
Speaker 2: be on video forever. I'm excited, what.
Speaker 4: Cause, I'm just gonna tell you right now, the black
Speaker 4: shirts is hands down my favorite probably thing about college
Speaker 4: football of all time. I've been a part of a
Speaker 4: lot of great teams and a lot of locker rooms
Speaker 4: and all that kind of thing, but just consistent thing.
Speaker 2: What does being a black shirt mean to you?
Speaker 1: That's a good question, you know, a cliche answers like everything, right,
Speaker 1: Like when I was a player here and you earned
Speaker 1: your black shirt.
Speaker 2: You know, because you see the kids, You see the.
Speaker 1: Energy in the guys when they get a black shirt,
Speaker 1: or when you see somebody like Garrett sitting here and
Speaker 1: he's talking about how he was emotional, his mom was
Speaker 1: emotional when she called him, and it kind of takes
Speaker 1: you back to where all the stuff you wrote down
Speaker 1: and charted out, whether it be at six am show
Speaker 1: up time for speed six forty five, you're going in
Speaker 1: lifting at seven thirty, but all like the sacrifice that
Speaker 1: you poured that you think in your mind at times
Speaker 1: it's you're kind of being selfish because you want to
Speaker 1: go to the next level. But you start to understand
Speaker 1: when you're being a leader in front of the guys,
Speaker 1: you're teaching guys defense, because coaches can't be the offices
Speaker 1: with you, and.
Speaker 2: You're running all these little unit meetings.
Speaker 1: With each other, with your teammates, and you pour all
Speaker 1: of that sacrifice like into other guys, and you feel
Speaker 1: it around you too. And those those same guys, the
Speaker 1: black shirts, the starting defense that's with you. You know
Speaker 1: they're giving the same effort and the same energy every day,
Speaker 1: even on days that you might not want to. And
Speaker 1: it's like the whole quote like discipline, choosing what you
Speaker 1: want most of what you want now, like taking like
Speaker 1: that selflessness from yourself and pouring it again into your
Speaker 1: daily disciplines and routine and giving it to your teammates
Speaker 1: and knowing it comes back to you in a form
Speaker 1: of a black shirt, right, Like you walk out here
Speaker 1: and you're holding a black shirt and you know how
Speaker 1: coveted it is, and everyone thinks it's so great and
Speaker 1: glamorous and it is.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: Like you're stoked because you got this prestigious type award.
Speaker 1: But I think like Garrett embodies the emotion of Garrett,
Speaker 1: I thought embodies it because it reminds you of how
Speaker 1: much you put into something. So to me, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what. That's what like being a black shirt
Speaker 1: meant to me is like you wore you looked around, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel awesome walking around in it, but you're just like, yo,
Speaker 1: you fucking put everything on the line with your teammates
Speaker 1: in the off season, like you know, you guys are
Speaker 1: on your golf courses and shit, we're with our we're
Speaker 1: with our strength coaches. But again, like those dog days, man,
Speaker 1: those fridays, the GPP, the conditioning, just all of it,
Speaker 1: and it paying off in a form of like, yo,
Speaker 1: I fucking earned this.
Speaker 4: Well you said. I mean you said too. Everybody thinks
Speaker 4: being a black shirt so cool, which it is. You're
Speaker 4: you're a black shirt forever. But being a culture keeper
Speaker 4: is dirty, nasty work now, right, that's dirty work.
Speaker 1: Right, And like you learn as you got older, like
Speaker 1: coach Polini, but coach gyp Jompapucha's with somebody. He was
Speaker 1: our coordinator at the time, and you know he would
Speaker 1: talk to me at times when you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out more that you can do in the leadership role,
Speaker 1: and like you said, the culture keeping, the policing the
Speaker 1: players and stuff like that, you start to learn that
Speaker 1: not everything is just barking and being vocal on the field,
Speaker 1: Like you start to learn how to talk to your
Speaker 1: teammates because again, it's such a I was talking about
Speaker 1: it earlier with Garrett. It's such a melting pot in
Speaker 1: a locker room like Nebraska and everywhere all over the country.
Speaker 1: But you got to figure out how to communicate with
Speaker 1: your teammates because everybody doesn't see things the same way
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to. You're trying to be a guy
Speaker 1: that carries out a message that you guys have, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, you might hear some disgruntable bullshit
Speaker 1: that might be true in that dude's story, right, And
Speaker 1: you're trying to find the balance between how do I
Speaker 1: get to this guy now look like some kiss ass
Speaker 1: or the coaches, but at the same time you're trying
Speaker 1: to carry out at like a standard.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: That's kind of one of the hardest things to do,
Speaker 3: That last part though, right state like be a leader
Speaker 3: and also not seem like you're with the coaches, because
Speaker 3: a lot of times in programs you can be like
Speaker 3: with the boys or with the coaches, Like there's a
Speaker 3: rowing between. It's like how do you find that balance?
Speaker 3: And that's consistent leadership, but not just one guy, but
Speaker 3: multiple multiple guys doing that. It was just one guy,
Speaker 3: it's easier for the small group of those losers to
Speaker 3: be like, oh that guy's a kiss ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's doing X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But like if you can get leadership, we have
Speaker 3: like five, six, seven, eight guys preaching the same thing,
Speaker 3: doing the same thing, and makes it easier for this
Speaker 3: to be like more of like a molded unit between.
Speaker 2: Coaches and players.
Speaker 3: Right, So that a lot of time for me, especially
Speaker 3: like having coaches on an authoritative level, Like I never
Speaker 3: did well with authority, so I had an issue having
Speaker 3: to like work through that process. And I think the
Speaker 3: black shirt thing, the way you guys, the way it's
Speaker 3: talked about, Like right, I've been here for four hours
Speaker 3: and seeing the way it's talked about, that's a really
Speaker 3: cool way to see how guys are truly invested in
Speaker 3: the process. It's just a defensive thing, correct, yep, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just a defensive thing.
Speaker 2: What are we doing offense? No, just try to score
Speaker 2: points and get them back now.
Speaker 1: But it's like you feel responsibility too. It's like you
Speaker 1: know again, it just it goes into that sacrifice, like
Speaker 1: you you stand up in front of the team and
Speaker 1: guys talk about the black Shirt way and this and that.
Speaker 1: You build a standard on day one, right, Well, day
Speaker 1: you guys know how to is day twenty in training
Speaker 1: camp isn't the same as day one, and everyone's feeling
Speaker 1: a little more sorry for themselves. Everybody's a little more
Speaker 1: bang up sed. The loaves start to show up. The
Speaker 1: loaf start to show up a little bit more on
Speaker 1: film where you chart them. Maybe the grating gets a
Speaker 1: little bit easier because you start understanding it's the dog days.
Speaker 1: But it's like that standard you kind of uphold and
Speaker 1: build on day one, and you need those guys or
Speaker 1: the black Shirt way to carry out. Hey, this is
Speaker 1: how we do it, and this is how we're going
Speaker 1: to do it. You're in and ye're out all the
Speaker 1: way around.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I got a little fired up there. That was great.
Speaker 2: It's great. How many guys are black shirts right now? Zero? Oh?
Speaker 2: None of them? So how do you so? Once?
Speaker 3: If so Garrett earned his freshman year? Yep, Garrett turned
Speaker 3: one every year, so yes, so he has to continually
Speaker 3: earn it every single year. They get like, you just
Speaker 3: keep it and then you can get taken away and when.
Speaker 2: You walk out, when you walk out the door, you
Speaker 2: keep it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn. But then that's a wild deal. So when
Speaker 3: do you make decisions on guys having black shirts?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: What was about a week before the first game?
Speaker 3: Weak?
Speaker 2: Before the first game.
Speaker 5: We've been actually since it was his idea, but we
Speaker 5: started bringing some of the ex black shirts back to
Speaker 5: award the black shirts to the guys on the team.
Speaker 2: Now, that hard, That does go hard. So when you're
Speaker 2: where you got to come back and do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you come hand one out to one of the
Speaker 5: to one of the linebackers.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then there's some guys that earn't it over the
Speaker 5: course of the year. And it's not all just starters,
Speaker 5: it's not all best players. It's it's guys that do
Speaker 5: things the right way.
Speaker 3: Are there situations where your best players are black shirts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had those situations.
Speaker 5: You talk to the old guys about guys getting their
Speaker 5: black shirt taken away from them because they weren't doing
Speaker 5: things right off the field.
Speaker 2: There weren't weren't being good leaders. And it matters to
Speaker 2: the guys party and boozing, that type of thing.
Speaker 1: What's it like for you guys to see what's right,
Speaker 1: that's what that great? Yeah, what's it like for you
Speaker 1: guys to see I guess the black shirt standard be
Speaker 1: carried out when it does come to fruition, right, Like
Speaker 1: maybe there's sometimes where you're like, you know, we're doing
Speaker 1: this tradition, but you might not feel it, maybe in
Speaker 1: your first year, but maybe you did. Like there's there's
Speaker 1: things that people don't see. But when it does come together,
Speaker 1: what is it like for you to see that stuff
Speaker 1: being upheld?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's it's always been, like
Speaker 4: Coach Frost, it has been a process. But you know,
Speaker 4: the first couple of years, you know, I think it
Speaker 4: was hard because they didn't know necessarily his way or
Speaker 4: our way or what they exactly needed to do. Now,
Speaker 4: like last year, that group, like that was like a
Speaker 4: real black Shirt group, Like and not just because of
Speaker 4: the way they play in the field, but the way
Speaker 4: they practice, the way they worked, the way they carried themselves.
Speaker 4: We talk about all the time black Shirt you got
Speaker 4: to elevate yourself and everybody around you, and so those
Speaker 4: guys I think they embodied that and that was really
Speaker 4: cool to watch. And you know, it was really cool.
Speaker 4: Last year we had a couple guys we didn't. We
Speaker 4: didn't go into this game one with eleven no, And
Speaker 4: so to see those other guys that were starters. You
Speaker 4: don't get to be a black shirt by default. And
Speaker 4: to see those guys that earned it the next couple
Speaker 4: of weeks in or six weeks in or whatever, that
Speaker 4: was really cool too, because not only did they get better,
Speaker 4: but they saw how everybody else was working around them
Speaker 4: and they understood that my stuff's got to get up.
Speaker 2: It means something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how was it for you keeping the morale high
Speaker 1: and keeping the defense playing at a high level with
Speaker 1: all Obviously we alluded to it earlier, but you know,
Speaker 1: you have a point differential of zero, but when you're
Speaker 1: losing those tight games, how are you keeping the morale up?
Speaker 1: Versus Because we were even texting one time talking about
Speaker 1: you know, from a player perspective, you might feel shitty.
Speaker 1: Right a coach comes in, we got win, We gotta
Speaker 1: figure out how to win this game, and you get
Speaker 1: that much harder critique in the smaller things because you
Speaker 1: just you feel like, as a defense, you didn't get
Speaker 1: it done, versus highlighting the good shit, Hey guys, we're
Speaker 1: this fucking close and showing them positive stuff like what
Speaker 1: are you doing to keep the morale high to where
Speaker 1: they played at a high level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you always got to show the elite
Speaker 4: stuff and then the stuff we need to improve on.
Speaker 4: But to the kids credit, I thought there was going
Speaker 4: to be a couple games where I was going to
Speaker 4: go stand in front of them on Sunday or Monday
Speaker 4: and I was gonna be like, oh man, we have
Speaker 4: to pull some teeth to get practice going right now.
Speaker 2: To those kids credit, they were ready to roll.
Speaker 4: They never pointed a finger at anybody on the defense, offense,
Speaker 4: special teams. They just pointed the thumb back at themselves
Speaker 4: and they said what can we do, coach?
Speaker 2: How can we get better?
Speaker 4: And it was really really cool, and I think that
Speaker 4: was because of the leadership we had in that room.
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Speaker 3: He By the way, this is really cool, like talk
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, I think the world of you because it's
Speaker 5: not just because of how well you played here, but
Speaker 5: your attitude and and everything that you brought to Nebraska.
Speaker 5: And I think that's why people everywhere love you, but
Speaker 5: Nebraska fans there's a special place for you. And I
Speaker 5: told you that I've been watching you since Marcus Mariotta
Speaker 5: was my quarterback at Oregon and went played behind him,
Speaker 5: and I've been a fan of his. Uh watching every
Speaker 5: Titans game through that time.
Speaker 2: You see him get in the face of Richard Sherman,
Speaker 2: his coach.
Speaker 5: I get mad at some of the penalties sometimes, but
Speaker 5: you also want guys to play that way.
Speaker 3: So nasty, the double edged shorts the place of doing
Speaker 3: business times.
Speaker 6: But I appreciate that, No, dude, I do. If you
Speaker 6: want to say a nice thing, yeah, trust me. If
Speaker 6: you want to say, we're not gonna I'm fired up
Speaker 6: to be on here, man. I mean last time, I
Speaker 6: was a little bit jealous. I gotta tell you. I
Speaker 6: mean I thought we were boys.
Speaker 2: We're you know, that was a buttoned up situation. There,
Speaker 2: guilt trip. I like it. I give it to him, dude,
Speaker 2: give it to him, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's cool. It's cool you had the big
Speaker 4: weeks on. You know, you got the a d the
Speaker 4: head coach.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I was trying to get clicks. That's really
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, clickbait. Yeah, Scott Frost's clickbait. There's no doubt. Yeah, Scott.
Speaker 1: You know, last time, he's like, I'm surprised I got
Speaker 1: to come back on.
Speaker 2: Do you have some Garrett.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yeah, we'll get to the final segment
Speaker 1: versus question Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, I was ill.
Speaker 2: I asked the question. I think it'll get some clicking, but.
Speaker 1: Uh no, you're asking like you were, like, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: you want me to come on second tis like the
Speaker 1: first time. Dude, You're playing a game the next day
Speaker 1: and me personally, I'm like, you don't wanna, You're not
Speaker 1: trying to can catch nobody nothing, and here at spring ball,
Speaker 1: like you can let your hair down a little bit
Speaker 1: and chins. You know, obviously I would. I would rub
Speaker 1: it on your feet and put some Duke's cannon on,
Speaker 1: rub it on your feet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can't pass up Roberts thick body. While
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't. And I had it for like
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. It's tough. I was in there. I'm fired up.
Speaker 4: A lot of my friends and family watch you guys
Speaker 4: listen podcast. They're so fired I'm getting texted like you
Speaker 4: gonna be on the bus. You canna be on the bus.
Speaker 2: I'm fired up. Just pu Yeah, everybody everybody thinks. Everybody thinks.
Speaker 5: I'm like, uh, like you're one of the boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're one of the fucking boys. You're in a
Speaker 2: very prestigious group. This is like the black shirt of life.
Speaker 3: Like that, dude, Like, come on this bus, Like you
Speaker 3: officially got some of the YouTube with you for wherever
Speaker 3: you go for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big fucking deal. We should get people
Speaker 2: of black shirts. We should get people black dude.
Speaker 5: Really, you can only get it if you've been a guest.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 3: Hey, your question though you said you had tell Yeah,
Speaker 3: so obviously the record last year isn't what you guys wanted.
Speaker 3: And Scott, this is particularly for you. You guys made
Speaker 3: some changes. That's the special teams category. If your special
Speaker 3: teams was better, how many games do you guys think
Speaker 3: you would have probably.
Speaker 2: Won at least two more, at least because because oh
Speaker 2: come on, dude, we're going to a bowl game. Two.
Speaker 5: There was one special teams play that if it changed,
Speaker 5: the game probably would have changed.
Speaker 2: And the hands on that.
Speaker 5: And I'm not talking about games where we gave up
Speaker 5: a kick return and we missed a bunch of pats
Speaker 5: and field goals.
Speaker 3: So well, if you have a kick return in one
Speaker 3: game and you're not gonna mention that that's almost not
Speaker 3: fair because you guys never lost a game more than
Speaker 3: seven points.
Speaker 5: We got we got a pun blocked in one game
Speaker 5: that totally changed the game and we were in control
Speaker 5: of the game until that happened. And another one where
Speaker 5: I think his defense gave up fifteen yards in the
Speaker 5: entire second half and we and we punted it to
Speaker 5: the wrong sideline and gave up a kicker a punt
Speaker 5: return and lost in overtime. And that's been an issue
Speaker 5: on a thrown on our side for a while. And
Speaker 5: Bill Bush is our special quarter nine and out and
Speaker 5: doing a great job, and the players know how important
Speaker 5: it is, and so all the effort we're putting in
Speaker 5: right now in springball, special teams is probably getting the
Speaker 5: most attention and effort, and we all know that needs
Speaker 5: to get better.
Speaker 2: It could be the difference. The Big Ten is so good,
Speaker 2: every team is.
Speaker 5: There's this much difference between all these teams, and special
Speaker 5: teams can make the difference in those types of games.
Speaker 2: I love your intensity.
Speaker 3: Of all the coaches in the Big Ten, who would
Speaker 3: you lose a fight to lose? Who do you think
Speaker 3: you would lose a fight to If all all the
Speaker 3: coaches in the Bay ten got together in a ring
Speaker 3: and it was kind of a free for all.
Speaker 2: Who do you think you'd have the royal type situation? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like yeah, I get that close to well.
Speaker 5: I would hope that every coach in the league would
Speaker 5: say they wouldn't lose.
Speaker 1: Don't want to hear, but we can have the object
Speaker 1: the object state melt Tucker, he get his ass be probably.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what he looks like. He's younger.
Speaker 5: He could not just because you're from Michigan. But I'm
Speaker 5: just telling you, Jim was a professional athlete, and he's
Speaker 5: a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2: I love him. He's a little bit he's a little
Speaker 2: bit crazy. He's the he just strikes. He's the type
Speaker 2: of guy.
Speaker 5: That wouldn't give up no matter what in a fight.
Speaker 5: But I mean he'd probably enjoy that and I would too,
Speaker 5: and in a friendly bigger.
Speaker 2: Than you by busting with the boys. Yeah he's big.
Speaker 2: Now he's my size. Oh really, Yeah, I'm younger than
Speaker 2: he is. But oh so you think you take them
Speaker 2: hands with toss. But he's a tough He's a tough dude. Now,
Speaker 2: I had a lot of respect for him. Who's your
Speaker 2: the easiest time with anything. Is Chin's a head coach?
Speaker 2: Who you're not? Okay? He don't want you don't want
Speaker 2: to smoke. You don't want to smoke here though? Who
Speaker 2: that's a good one.
Speaker 5: Who would be the easiest, Uh, Bob Devanny would be
Speaker 5: pretty easy.
Speaker 2: Who's that Illinois? No? He used to coach here?
Speaker 5: I just assumed whoever the coach for Illinois was.
Speaker 2: Illinois? Illinois?
Speaker 3: Dude, I had something else on. Oh, we're going to
Speaker 3: Michigan next week. Maybe we get some people got to
Speaker 3: call me back. It's getting a little it's get a
Speaker 3: little dicey. But what do you guys think about this?
Speaker 3: Every year Nebraska and Michigan play in the fall and
Speaker 3: they're fighting for the bus trophy, and you guys hoist
Speaker 3: whoever wins. It's the battle of the bus and it's
Speaker 3: a giant gold bus with long horns.
Speaker 5: Promise to you if if you make the trophy and
Speaker 5: you get Harbaugh and they're a dy to sign off
Speaker 5: on it, I won't land.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what Nebraska does.
Speaker 5: Hey, if you guys legit fought for a trophy.
Speaker 3: Imagine I'm getting hyped up over a busting trophy bus
Speaker 3: and giving the bird to the other team, Well, whoever wins,
Speaker 3: and that that made my day.
Speaker 5: We got trophies in this league with pigs and buckets
Speaker 5: and everything else, we might as well have a bus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love love that idea. What a win, right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I uh my last question I asked like four. That's
Speaker 2: my bad. This is your oak. I loved your questions.
Speaker 2: I thought you did a great job.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a couple more we can get
Speaker 3: a Scott though, because I feel like that dude loves
Speaker 3: to throw hands.
Speaker 2: You look at him, it looks rugged.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look the way he's laying sitting, He's comfous. He's
Speaker 5: built like a Chevy.
Speaker 2: That means.
Speaker 1: But everyone talks about it like it's no secret that
Speaker 1: everyone feels like.
Speaker 2: Scott Frost is on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: And this last year, you know, I had this written
Speaker 1: down that one of the one of the definitions of insanity,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the same thing over and over and
Speaker 1: expecting different results. You've been so close, bro, you guys
Speaker 1: have been so close with this program with this last
Speaker 1: year zero point different. You know, I've been out spouting
Speaker 1: off about the best three and nine win, best three
Speaker 1: win team of all time, but being so close, and
Speaker 1: as you guys know, once you get removed from the season,
Speaker 1: you you ultimately just become what your record was and
Speaker 1: being fifteen and twenty nine, like going into twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: What were a couple of things that you guys get
Speaker 1: in the room about. You made coaching changes, you have
Speaker 1: a contract restructure, You're doing all these different things. What
Speaker 1: are a couple of things that you're in that room
Speaker 1: and you're like, yo, we got to tighten this shit up.
Speaker 1: Not because you actually feel the pressure or you're on
Speaker 1: the hot seat, but you're just like, I'm sick and
Speaker 1: tired of being just this fucking close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. First of all, every coach is on the hot
Speaker 2: seat every year. Essentially, it is what it is.
Speaker 5: I tell you, if we don't get it done here,
Speaker 5: it's not gonna be from lack of effort or knowing
Speaker 5: how to coach or doing things the right way. And
Speaker 5: we had a big hill to climb to catch. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of good teams this league, and to catch
Speaker 5: a lot of these teams in our league. But I
Speaker 5: agree with you that's some of the reason I made changes,
Speaker 5: not because we weren't doing things the right way, just
Speaker 5: you know, we needed to have a little bit different
Speaker 5: approach with some new energy, some new ideas, and some
Speaker 5: new enthusiasm. And I think we got that with some
Speaker 5: of the new players and coaches that we brought in.
Speaker 5: Our entire team is exciting because they know how close
Speaker 5: they are. And like I said, I think, I think
Speaker 5: there's a hunger there because because of the way we
Speaker 5: lost games and how close we were, and and also
Speaker 5: strangely through losing a lot of confidence in our team
Speaker 5: because we played, you know, again, a playoff team and
Speaker 5: had them on the ropes and had a chance to
Speaker 5: go ahead of Ohio State.
Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: And and I can go through the games, but there's
Speaker 5: a lot of confidence, frustration, but also confidence within our team.
Speaker 5: And we're gonna keep doing things the right way and
Speaker 5: keep trying to add to the roster and the talent
Speaker 5: and keep getting the culture better. And and then all
Speaker 5: you can do is go out on Saturday and give
Speaker 5: it everything you got.
Speaker 2: I love them, man, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I think too the heart like last year,
Speaker 3: Hardball was on the proverbial hot seat and we weren't
Speaker 3: even rate top twenty five and went to the playoffs
Speaker 3: like happens every year.
Speaker 2: The winning everything.
Speaker 3: And the thing people need to be more understanding of
Speaker 3: is when a coach comes in like, it's not the
Speaker 3: players he recruited, and so now you're going into the
Speaker 3: fifth year, right, this is like these are your players?
Speaker 2: Are your guys?
Speaker 3: Are the guys you guys came in and have had
Speaker 3: the whole entire time to develop, and so people just
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 5: You see coaches that get jobs where they're already on
Speaker 5: top of the mountain and they take over for somebody
Speaker 5: else that got it there. That's a lot easier, particularly
Speaker 5: coaches that inherit a team where they've been coaching, a
Speaker 5: coordinator gets promoted or whatever. Right, Usually the jobs you
Speaker 5: get as a head coach are the ones that aren't
Speaker 5: doing real well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a fix. And this has been a fix.
Speaker 5: And the great thing is I think the hard work
Speaker 5: is behind us and now it's just more fine tuning
Speaker 5: to make sure that some of these close results change.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We have outstanding fans that are behind you, and we
Speaker 5: walked down this place every single person, huge Nebraska fans
Speaker 5: that sold outs in sixty two.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see guys ball out this year except
Speaker 3: for one game. Yeah, I'm rood for you, guys man.
Speaker 3: Thanks obviously, thanks for what. Yeah, no, thank you for
Speaker 3: your guys's time. Like this has been a blast, and
Speaker 3: I'm pulling for you.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm ready to just pop off at the
Speaker 1: mouth anytime on that bus.
Speaker 3: No question, crazy thing. You should have had me and
Speaker 3: asked that last question. You're just because you're you went
Speaker 3: to Nebraska.
Speaker 2: I got no ties. I can make them upset.
Speaker 1: Sure well, I mean but still you see like you
Speaker 1: see a couple of Husker guys talking shop, like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're giving us the real ship.
Speaker 5: I mean, you made you made my man, Lena, I
Speaker 5: sit up.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we're fucking we're doing that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love the energy, dude. No, but thank you guys man.
Speaker 1: You guys got anything else for us?
Speaker 4: No, good luck to you, thank you, thank you, Appreciate
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, the battle for the bus is on its way.
Speaker 2: Love it.
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