WEBVTT - NBA Free Agency Preview (Feat. Keith Smith And Dan Favale)

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, It's our free

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<v Speaker 2>agency preview show.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only do I catch you up.

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<v Speaker 2>On what you need to know when I'm joined on

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<v Speaker 2>this episode by two special guests, Keith Smith, friend of

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<v Speaker 2>show from Spoke Track, and a legend Tam Favalli. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why I said, Tan Dan Favlli of Bleacher

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<v Speaker 2>Report and the Hardwood Knocks podcast. Get it, Hardwood Knocks

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of information that you need to know

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<v Speaker 2>heading into free agency weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>So Nick, do me a favor and drop that motherfucking beat.

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<v Speaker 4>They should be Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 2>So the new CBA is officially out, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>nearly six hundred pages of glory and folks, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Call player friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>There are punitive measures in place to make sure two

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<v Speaker 2>Hammer owners pause who repeatedly surpassed the luxury tax, which

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<v Speaker 2>is now tiered.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, going over the second apron will not only.

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<v Speaker 2>Cost you as much as seven dollars per dollar you spend,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't sign buyout players, you lose your mid level exception,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't even have some of your draft picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like the Warriors and Clippers would hate that even

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<v Speaker 2>the richest NBA owners.

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<v Speaker 4>Are now filling the crunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a TikTok on how Joe lacub cut ties

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<v Speaker 2>with Jordan Poole and made him the first victim of

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<v Speaker 2>the CBA because that was a salary dump, and now

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Bomber has done it again. By far the richest

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<v Speaker 2>owner decides Eric Gordon, you baby have to go, because

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<v Speaker 2>we are not spending one hundred and ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on a three and D shooter who can really only

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<v Speaker 2>shoot threes from the corner. When a guy is that's

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<v Speaker 2>worth one hundred billion says.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're just not.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the end of the era of folks.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're gonna now see are teams, even rich teams,

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<v Speaker 2>very reluctant to sign these long term contracts over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred MILLI and those teams like Phoenix, even the young players,

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<v Speaker 2>and those teams like Phoenix who have multiple bloated contracts

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<v Speaker 2>with older more we'll call it soft tissue injury prone players.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna now live and die by checks notes veteran

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<v Speaker 2>minimum contracts from players just chasing the rings sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers change isn't just coming.

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<v Speaker 4>It's here.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out social I did an explainer of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know about the CBA. It's worth checking out.

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<v Speaker 2>It will dictate what's happening forward in the league. So

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<v Speaker 2>free agency is here tonight at five pm. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up. I want to get a little few

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts down before it happens.

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<v Speaker 4>To get us prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, there's already been some extensions that have

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<v Speaker 2>removed big names from the marketplace. We know that nas

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<v Speaker 2>Reed sign a three year, forty two million dollar deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 4>Great signing.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked last episode about how that meant that the

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<v Speaker 2>Wolves had ninety million dollars tied up in three centers,

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<v Speaker 2>and what that really meant was that key Cat had

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<v Speaker 2>to go. But after that we had another one. Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Barnes returns to the Kings on the three year, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollar deal, which I think is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing for both sides. Harrison Barnes very steady,

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<v Speaker 2>could play great defense, can shoot threes unless he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>against the Warriors, and it's pretty cheap three years, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollar deal, way cheaper than say somebody like

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Poole for the Kings that helps them continue to

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<v Speaker 2>evolve and get better, and I think both sides are

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<v Speaker 2>probably happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Nikola Vucevich signed for three years and sixty million.

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<v Speaker 3>With the Bulls, and you could say he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not worth that much money.

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<v Speaker 2>And I could understand why you would think that, because

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<v Speaker 2>even though he had his statistically or actually what you

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<v Speaker 2>might think was statistically his best year, it was identical

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<v Speaker 2>to the year before that, where he was in many

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<v Speaker 2>people's minds, absolute trash. But if you were to lose

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<v Speaker 2>Vusovich and you're the Bulls, you have no one else

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<v Speaker 2>that you can sign. You can't replace that money with

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<v Speaker 2>a serviceable player of his caliber. You would have to

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<v Speaker 2>find someone for much less money who wouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 2>close to the type of player the Vusevich was.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the CBA biting teams in.

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<v Speaker 2>The ass and makes you make decisions that you really

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to make, which is, listen, we only have

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<v Speaker 2>so much to spend and sometimes you can only spend

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<v Speaker 2>it on certain players. Goga but Tatzi remember him. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who got in a fight during the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he got his ass whooped.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, he got his option picked up by Orlando, as

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<v Speaker 2>did Miles McBride with the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 4>Jared Vanderbilt with the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for Vando, Xavier Tillman with the grizz Alec Burks

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<v Speaker 2>with the Pistons. Good for Alec Burks. I guess his

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<v Speaker 2>option was ten and a half million dollars. Does seem

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot for Alec Burks. How do I know

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Alec and not Alex?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean only only.

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<v Speaker 5>The deep of the deep know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Clarkson, That's how Kiloki and niche is.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Clarkson exercised his.

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<v Speaker 2>Player option to stay with the Utah Jazz. Kelly, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just crazy, that's crazy. Remember we thought Jordan clarks would go.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's gonna wait till free agency. Kelly, Olynox and

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Horton Tucker. Not Taylor Horton Tucker, like some other

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<v Speaker 2>people might think his name is meaning three players are

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<v Speaker 2>returning to the Jazz. Now three players I did not

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<v Speaker 2>see returning. Josh Hart picked up his option Joshua Hart.

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<v Speaker 2>That is twelve point nine million dollars with the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>An additional Villanova of Wildcat Dante DiVincenzo may also be

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<v Speaker 2>coming to the garden.

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<v Speaker 3>Oladipo picks up his.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine point four million dollar option.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, uh, that is not news. This man has no knees,

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<v Speaker 2>He has no ligaments anywhere in his lower extremities. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you can pick up nine point four million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>from anyone, you better take it, baby, and you better

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<v Speaker 2>run because you were getting the vet minimum anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of players that had their options

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<v Speaker 2>declined as well, making them free agents. Portland passed on

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Knox in part because he was the admin out.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers declining ten point five million dollars on Mobamba, sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>and a half million dollars on Maligue Beasley, just too

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<v Speaker 2>much for the Lakers to pick up. May bring him

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<v Speaker 2>back for less, but we'll see. We'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people thought that maybe Herb Jones would test things out.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pelicans declined the one point eight million dollar option

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<v Speaker 2>on him, So what happens next. Nothing. They declined it

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<v Speaker 2>so that they could lock him up long term. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they want him, probably for the rest of his career there. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 2>Torrian Prince had his option declined by the Wolves and

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<v Speaker 2>found out on Twitter from woj pretty much like all

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<v Speaker 2>of us. But they also want to bring him back.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a fun, cute, adorable story. Three high draft picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Former eleven pick Michael Corter, Carter Williams so I barely

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<v Speaker 2>remembers in the league, Former number eight pick Jackson Hayes.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Jackson Hayes had a moment when he tried to

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<v Speaker 2>knock that door down in a domestic dispute, and former

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<v Speaker 2>number seventeen pick Nikaile Alexander Walker from Minnesota all waived.

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<v Speaker 2>I think two of those players actually were drafted by

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, so good job, David Griffin. So now that

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<v Speaker 2>we're up to date, I'm gonna go over ten free

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<v Speaker 2>agents that I'm interested in and what they might actually

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<v Speaker 2>do in the next twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 4>James Harden first up.

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<v Speaker 2>We all thought maybe James Harden would either go to

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<v Speaker 2>Houston and they would pay him an ungodly amount of

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<v Speaker 2>money to sell tickets for Tillman Fertita, a man who

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<v Speaker 2>only cares about the shrimp fourt and the Dalla dollar bills,

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<v Speaker 2>or he would go back with Darryl Morey and his

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<v Speaker 2>love affair to Philadelphia in the bombshell move.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like neither are gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Harden and Sixers were so far apart on a contract

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<v Speaker 2>that they are now looking to trade him as he

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<v Speaker 2>has exercised his player option. Everyone is now speculating where

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<v Speaker 2>will Harden land. We know it's not gonna be Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they have sixty one million dollars in cap space.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not happening. They're gonna probably go after someone like Kuzma,

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<v Speaker 2>Van Fleet, Dylan Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not both.

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<v Speaker 4>Ima Udoka can't make it more clear that.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not want James Harden messing with the team

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<v Speaker 2>chemistry on a young team.

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<v Speaker 4>So where does he end up? The rumors are getting hot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clippers seem to be the leaders in the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Heat are also interested. Apparently the Knicks are interested.

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<v Speaker 2>But once again, for the third straight year, James Harden

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<v Speaker 2>has hijacked our off season.

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<v Speaker 6>Why why?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why he does it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, did not see it coming, but hey,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the NBA. That's what makes it exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie Irving another exhausting, exasperating former teammate of James Harden

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<v Speaker 2>is also hijake jacking the moment full spin cycle, pretending

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<v Speaker 2>that other teams are interested in him for anything more

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<v Speaker 2>than the veteran minimum. Kyrie Irving, you continue to peddle

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<v Speaker 2>those lies, you are going back to Dallas. Everyone knows it,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you are out of your mind and you take

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute minimum to play for the Suns. Apparently he

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<v Speaker 2>has been having mutual interest with Phoenix. Okay, if Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Eshbia does that deal, someone needs to take the team

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<v Speaker 2>away from him. Would that be the shortest tenure of

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<v Speaker 2>a freaking NBA owner we've ever seen. It's just him

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<v Speaker 2>and Isaiah Thomas out on the street after nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Months of owning an NBA team. I mean, there's just

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<v Speaker 4>no chance that happens. There's just no chance.

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<v Speaker 3>PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington, aka the victim of Brittany Renner, has been offered

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<v Speaker 2>four years and fifty two million dollars, but he's looking

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<v Speaker 2>for more. He's a nice little four or five small five,

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<v Speaker 2>big four, pretty inconsistent, but he plays for Charlotte, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're not even really sure what he could do. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably get as much as said tventy five million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>from someone looking for a wing and guess what he

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<v Speaker 2>needs it because he's been paying all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Money to Brittany Renner.

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<v Speaker 2>Max Truce is loose to the tune of three years

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight from the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that true? That's the rumor. There's no way that

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<v Speaker 4>Heat can match that. He don't have any money.

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<v Speaker 2>The Heater over the luxury text. The Heat can barely

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<v Speaker 2>afford to keep Gabe Vincent let alone. This streuce is loose,

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<v Speaker 2>very strange player, very tall, can play a little defense, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot from forty percent from three. No one goes one

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<v Speaker 2>for eleven and then eleven for eleven from three and

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<v Speaker 2>back to back games more than Max s Truce. But

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be missed in Miami, and I'm sure the girls

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<v Speaker 2>will miss him there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Brown?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any more hot commodity on the market than

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve point five million dollar Bruce Brown after winning

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<v Speaker 2>an NBA Finals, after being completely misused by Steve Nash,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just the most Steve Nash move.

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<v Speaker 4>He is the bell the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers are prepared to offer him twelve point three million,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the mid level exception, more than the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>can give him.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If he runs it back with the Nugs, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that will make him sad. But he's earned every penny

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<v Speaker 2>and six million dollars. If you're in the in that

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<v Speaker 2>range where it's either six or twelve, let me say this,

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<v Speaker 2>it matters to you. It matters Cam Reddish. What a

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<v Speaker 2>sad story Cam Reddish has become. I hope he sticks

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<v Speaker 2>and fits somewhere, because he's gone from Atlanta to New

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<v Speaker 2>York to Portland and everyone is chewed him in and

0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.600
<v Speaker 2>spit him out. The Blazers declined his option, and on

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's literally looking for six seven to six

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<v Speaker 2>nine guys that can play, defense, shoot and score at

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<v Speaker 2>all three levels, he'd think they would maybe want Cam Reddish,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do not. They let him go for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the most confusing players in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Even his Duke teammates like Zion and RJ. Barrett said, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna be the best one of our class. They

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<v Speaker 4>were fucking lying. They were lying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not I mean, listen, it's closer than

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<v Speaker 2>you think. And that's more to do with Ion an RJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Barrett than that has to do with Cam Reddish.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone's gonna take a flyer on him.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he's I hope he like thrives in a

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<v Speaker 2>place like OKC or Orlando, or a place with no pressure,

0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a place that loves length and athleticism in a place

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<v Speaker 2>will probably be like the eighth man off the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>just scoring buckets. Up next is Christian Wood. He was

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<v Speaker 2>seen as maybe coming back to Dallas. They do not

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<v Speaker 2>want him. His agent's annoying, he's annoying. He was not

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<v Speaker 2>well liked by Jason Kidd. He's an unrestricted free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now rumors were that the Miami Heat want him, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lie. We know that he doesn't play a

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<v Speaker 2>liquor defense. And let's be real, do you think he

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<v Speaker 2>fits into the Heat culture?

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<v Speaker 4>Pause?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, no, you know he doesn't. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of talent. He can score, but he seems to

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<v Speaker 2>wear hell. He's welcome fucking fast, even with Detroit. When

0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Troit tells you you gotta go, baby, you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Middleton, he declines his option. But he's probably coming

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<v Speaker 4>back to the Bucks. Let's be honest, Like, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>chance he could be on the move, but it's a

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<v Speaker 4>very small chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Is his knee fixing like itself, Is it regenerating?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he gonna be healthy next year?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see, because when he's healthy and he's

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible compliment to Giannis, I tell you what, they

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<v Speaker 2>are really hard to beat. Another Milwaukee Buck that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to figure out. What's happening to him? Is brook

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<v Speaker 2>Lopez coming off his best year defensive Player of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year candidate. The demand for centers would seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>quite low, but again, everyone wants a little Bruce Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone wants a little Brook Lopez on their roster. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a small number of teams who will sign him if

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<v Speaker 2>they can't, even though he's getting a little long in

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<v Speaker 2>the tooth now. I would love him in Portland, but

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<v Speaker 2>it appears the Bucks want to bring him back as well.

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<v Speaker 2>A d Rose, very sad. D Rose is coming to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the road, like boys to men. The

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<v Speaker 2>last of my ten interesting free agents is Derick Rose.

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<v Speaker 4>He got his option declined.

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<v Speaker 2>In New York after being basically defade designated free agents,

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<v Speaker 2>designated for arrival, whatever you want to call it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball term. Most of the second half of the

0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.840
<v Speaker 2>year he was unusable. He didn't complain, He just kept chilling,

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<v Speaker 2>which only makes his value higher on the market than

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<v Speaker 2>it probably would have been.

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<v Speaker 4>I could see him coming on the Sun, going to

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<v Speaker 4>the Suns, a team team.

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<v Speaker 2>That needs a little veteran depth, somebody who can bring

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<v Speaker 2>the ball up. A lot of teams could use a

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<v Speaker 2>little ten to fifteen minutes of Derick Rose. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>team like the Lakers or the Jazz, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>team like who knows, maybe Orlando wants a tenth point guard.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, we bring on Keith Smith spotrack who is.

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<v Speaker 7>We could not have asked for a better day to

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<v Speaker 7>have you on at a better time. And I actually

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<v Speaker 7>want to start with a tweet that you put out

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<v Speaker 7>which I think is really interesting. With the James Harden

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<v Speaker 7>picking up the option and then possibly being traded, they're

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<v Speaker 7>going to look to move him. You brought up something

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's really important, where this is going to

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<v Speaker 7>be a short term deal with whoever it's actually trades

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<v Speaker 7>for Harden, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>He's not extension eligible, so this is not going to

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<v Speaker 8>be an extended trade or one of those deals where

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<v Speaker 8>he gets traded and then extends because he only did

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<v Speaker 8>a two year contract with Philadelphia last offseason.

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<v Speaker 9>That doesn't allow him to extend, so he's.

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<v Speaker 8>Gonna go where he is play out the year and

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<v Speaker 8>then being unrestricted free agent in the summer of twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's obviously interesting to see how things fell apart

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<v Speaker 2>between Harden and the Sixers, given Keith the love affair

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<v Speaker 2>that Daryl Mori and Harden have had for so long, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you thought maybe James and Daryl Morey would end their

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<v Speaker 2>careers together. So what do the Sixers do now? Say

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<v Speaker 2>it is a Clippers deal? Is it just for picks?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they rebuilding? Are they retooling?

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<v Speaker 2>Could we see EMBIID maybe be another Domino down the road.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't think we'll see anything with EMBIID. I

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<v Speaker 8>think you kind of refocus around EMBIID. You get Tyrese

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<v Speaker 8>Maxi extended, you still have Tobias Harris there, and you

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<v Speaker 8>move forward with the best deal you can and try

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<v Speaker 8>to rebalance your roster a little bit and maybe add

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit of depth. You hopefully can turn James

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<v Speaker 8>Harden into two, maybe even three guys who're going to

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<v Speaker 8>move it forward from there around Really, what's an EMBIID

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<v Speaker 8>Maxie core of guys who we signed long term and

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<v Speaker 8>you put the ball in Maxie's hands more and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>let's go, young fellow, this is kind of your show

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<v Speaker 8>to run.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, Keith, when you look at these potential landing spots

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<v Speaker 6>for James Harden, if he even does end up getting

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<v Speaker 6>moved here, where do you think the best fit at

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<v Speaker 6>this point of his career would be.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think the Clippers probably. It seems like they're

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<v Speaker 8>a team that makes a lot of sense for him.

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<v Speaker 8>They need another ballhand or Harden up until the last

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<v Speaker 8>couple of years, had been remarkably durable. He's a guy

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<v Speaker 8>who hadn't missed much time, so hopefully, you know, he

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<v Speaker 8>could come in and bring at least some level of

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<v Speaker 8>stability to a team that you know, their star guys

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<v Speaker 8>miss a lot of time, so so you hope for that,

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<v Speaker 8>and they're they're what was interesting when they waived Derek Gordon,

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<v Speaker 8>it was all right, maybe we finally found the limit

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<v Speaker 8>to how much Steve Balmer is willing to pay. But

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<v Speaker 8>if he's willing to take on Harden, now, you know

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<v Speaker 8>when maybe he's just saying, hey, we're gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 8>clear out a little bit of room and then we'll

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<v Speaker 8>take Harden on there. Obviously, gonna have to trade matching

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<v Speaker 8>salary to get him. But we'll bring him in and

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<v Speaker 8>we we'll just kind of keep doing what we've been doing,

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<v Speaker 8>which is pile up contracts for players, and we'll let

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<v Speaker 8>it all play out on the court.

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<v Speaker 7>Given the fact that it would only be a one

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<v Speaker 7>year commitment that a team would have with him, and

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<v Speaker 7>he's thirty three and we've seen a little regression certainly there,

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<v Speaker 7>what would the price actually be for a team to

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<v Speaker 7>trade for James Harden.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this is not gonna be one of those like

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<v Speaker 8>overwhelming superstar returns. I think people you got to come

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<v Speaker 8>away from what happened last summer with like Rudy Gobert

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<v Speaker 8>and Donovan Mitchell and those kind of things and think more,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, in between the Bradley Beal trade and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>those kind of monster type trades. So what we'll probably see,

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<v Speaker 8>my guess is Philly will take back two three players

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<v Speaker 8>that are good players, rotation guys. You know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of starters, but nobody who's really an all star

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<v Speaker 8>level player. I don't know that they're gonna get young

0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.919
<v Speaker 8>talent back. I don't even know that they'll get a

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<v Speaker 8>draft pick back. I think it's mostly gonna be Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we're we're taking on hard and he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 8>be here. We're gonna give you a couple of good

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<v Speaker 8>players and we'll go from there. That that's probably likely

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<v Speaker 8>how this will play out, as opposed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>one of those ones where you come away like, man,

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<v Speaker 8>they they what a haul they got for James Harden.

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<v Speaker 8>I just don't know that it's gonna play out that way,

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<v Speaker 8>given the age concerns and potential injury concerns and the

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<v Speaker 8>fact that it is you know, could turn into a

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<v Speaker 8>one year rental.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk me through what the Clippers mindset is right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are both extension

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<v Speaker 2>eligible in the next month.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, I think Jerry West just.

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<v Speaker 2>Went on Paul George's podcast and said, like, it's unacceptable

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<v Speaker 2>how little you guys all play together. You can't be

0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 2>only playing sixty games combined. Where are they at in

0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.399
<v Speaker 2>the process of building this roster. Are they ready to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild or are they looking to add pieces for like

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<v Speaker 2>one more last dance kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the interesting thing is both Georgia and Leonard or

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<v Speaker 8>extension eligible or they can play it out and be

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<v Speaker 8>free agents next summer. So what I think you're looking

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<v Speaker 8>for with the Clippers is can we have one year

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<v Speaker 8>where we all play a lot and we finally see

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<v Speaker 8>what maybe this team was a vision to be. And

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's likely where this is headed for them

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<v Speaker 8>is let's go get whether it's James Harden or maybe

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<v Speaker 8>another player you know, becomes available via trade that we're

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<v Speaker 8>not you know, we don't know anything about right now,

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<v Speaker 8>and let's go get that guy. Put him in there

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.359
<v Speaker 8>to fill a point guard spot. I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>see I don't want to use the word push guys

0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 8>to play more the term push guys play, but I

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 8>think you're gonna see them be a little bit more of, Hey,

0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 8>we really took it easy this entire season. You got

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<v Speaker 8>to the playoffs and you still weren't here, right, we

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.879
<v Speaker 8>still had injuries. I think they're gonna value the regular

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<v Speaker 8>season a little bit more this year, try to kind

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<v Speaker 8>of let's have one all in, go after it type

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<v Speaker 8>of year, and then we'll see where it goes from there.

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<v Speaker 6>Keith, we also found out that Kyrie Irving is gonna

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<v Speaker 6>meet with the Suns, you know, in free agency officially

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<v Speaker 6>begins on June thirtieth. Do you think it's more likely

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<v Speaker 6>that he's back in Dallas or do you think that

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<v Speaker 6>he does end up somewhere with Phoenix? And also, not

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 6>to ask a loaded question here, why would Kevin Durant?

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<v Speaker 6>I know they're friends and whatnot off the court, but

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<v Speaker 6>why would he want to attach himself to Kyrie again?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we'll see. You know, I don't know the answer

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 8>to that last part. I have no no sense of

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 8>that situation. Hit hit Kevin Durant up on two. You

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<v Speaker 8>may get an actual answer on it. He's pretty good

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 8>about replying. But I think the Sun's saying this is

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<v Speaker 8>what I do, right is the salary cap? Like, this

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<v Speaker 8>is what I cover and run. I have no idea

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 8>how this would even be a thing. You know now,

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<v Speaker 8>I have said repeatedly. If I woke up one morning

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<v Speaker 8>you told me, Hey, an NBA superstar took the veteran

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<v Speaker 8>minimum to sign with a team and passed up one

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<v Speaker 8>hundreds of million, you wouldn't even have to give me

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<v Speaker 8>two guesses.

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<v Speaker 9>I'd be, oh, where did Kyrie go? Right?

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<v Speaker 6>That?

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<v Speaker 9>That would be where I would go with that.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think the thing with him is this is

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<v Speaker 8>probably more of a Hey, Dallas, I have other options.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, let's make sure you know you don't get

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<v Speaker 8>cute with your offerst to me and these kind of things.

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<v Speaker 8>I just it's very, very hard to envision any path

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 8>for Kyrie to get to Phoenix on any kind of

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.400
<v Speaker 8>realistic trade because of just where they're at salary wise

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<v Speaker 8>already after making the Bradley Beal deal.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so at this point, now when you look at

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<v Speaker 7>that Big Three, I mean, this is what we've talked

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 7>about since they made that Kevin Durant trade was Sons

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.880
<v Speaker 7>have no depth whatsoever. Now they add Beal, what type

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<v Speaker 7>of restrictions there?

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<v Speaker 9>Really?

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<v Speaker 7>Just what type of movement do they even have to

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<v Speaker 7>add to this team to make them not just a contender,

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:12.959
<v Speaker 7>but like, you know, somebody that has depth that can

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<v Speaker 7>play out an entire season.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean we're we're in like day two of them

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<v Speaker 8>keeping DeAndre Aiden, So that means probably tomorrow it'll be

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.640
<v Speaker 8>that they're shopping him. It seems like that's how that

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 8>cycle spins. They're in Phoenix, so I think you know what,

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 8>we'll find out. You know, again, they might be able

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.119
<v Speaker 8>to turn DeAndre Ayton into one or two or three

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 8>players if they could to replenish some depth, but mostly

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.919
<v Speaker 8>they're down to re signing guys and then signing players

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 8>to the veteran minimum. I think what you're gonna see

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 8>them do is, don't be surprised if we all you'll

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 8>get news maybe even tomorrow night when negotiations open at

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 8>six pm Eastern, the Sons are signing Tory Craig to

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 8>something like a ten million dollar contract, whichever w be Like, wow,

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 8>that's a lot for Tory Craig. But what that does

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.880
<v Speaker 8>is that makes him a tradable salary down the line,

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 8>because it's not so much that it's a bad contract.

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 8>Jock Landale, who is you know, one of their backup

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 8>centers is a restricted for agent. They could bring him

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 8>back and say, yeah, we can bring him back on

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 8>the minimum, but let's bring him back in like two,

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 8>you know, three, four, five million dollars. Again, remains a

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 8>tradable contract and you could move him down the line.

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 8>So I think that's the kind of things you're going

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 8>to see with them. Then veterans, when they first couple

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 8>waves of free agency go through all the cap spaces gone.

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 8>Most of the exceptions have been used by contenders. They're

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 8>going to look around and say, you know what, Phoenix

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 8>has a really good chance to win, and they have

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 8>rotation roles available. Those are the two things those guys

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 8>prize when they're in that position if they're chasing a ring.

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 8>So hey, why not, you know, I'll sign up, come there.

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 8>I can play, you know, fifteen to twenty minutes a

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 8>night and try to help that team win a title.

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>So I guess let's talk about Dallas and if they

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 2>do sign Kyrie Irving, what is their cap situation looking like,

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>because their cap holds are enormous.

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so what they're They did some maneuvering at the

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 8>draft to move around some money.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 9>They get off of.

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 8>Davas Berton's contract and brought in Rashaun Holmes. That saved

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 8>them a little bit of money. They can get into

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 8>range again depending on how much Kyrie Irving resigns for.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 8>And that's what I assume is gonna happen, is that

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 8>he resigns to Dallas if he gives them even a

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 8>little bit of a break and doesn't take the full

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 8>max that he can get, and that may be one

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.360
<v Speaker 8>more Dallas says, hey, we'll give you an extra year

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 8>on the contract. If you'll bring the overall number down

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 8>a little bit and bring that first year salary down,

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 8>what you could see is they could get in a

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 8>range to use the non taxpayer mL Now would be tight,

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 8>but they could probably pull that off. And at that

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 8>point they're gonna be in on all kinds of guys.

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 8>There was reporting today that they want to meet with

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.239
<v Speaker 8>Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown, I think he's gonna have one

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 8>hundred meetings tomorrow. It sounds like, you know, it sounds

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 8>like everybody wants a meeting with Bruce Brown, including the

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 8>Denver Nuggets. But those are the kind of guys you

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.719
<v Speaker 8>be looking at those level target guys to come in

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 8>you'll play again. That's another team that can you can

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 8>tell a player, hey, come here for twelve million, We've

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 8>got twenty five, maybe even thirty minutes a night available

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 8>for you, because we do they do have some rotation

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 8>holes to fill there in Dallas.

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 6>When you look at the bucks cap situation, what do

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 6>you think they end up doing here with Chris Middleton

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 6>and Brook Lopez and how creative and what really could

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 6>they do this offseason? You know, because you look out

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 6>east and it's really Boston we'll see what Philadelphia looks like.

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 6>We don't even talk about Miami, even though they were

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 6>just in the finals. So what do you think Milwaukee

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 6>could do here?

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think you're gonna see Milwaukee kind of run

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 8>it back for the most part with their guys. I

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 8>think you'll see them try to get Chris Middleton add

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 8>years on to he declined like a forty million dollar

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 8>player option, so add years but bring that number down some,

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 8>you know, maybe try to get him thirty to thirty

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 8>five million, bring that number down, but give him an

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 8>extra year or so. I think they're gonna do everything

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 8>they can to resign brook Lopez. I know there's been

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 8>all kinds of rumors out there. Houston maybe wanted him,

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 8>and at one point the Lakers are supposedly in on him,

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 8>and all these teams didn't make sense because he's really good.

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 8>He's coming off one of the best years of his career,

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 8>even despite his advanced age. But I think at the

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 8>end of the day, he'll probably look around and say,

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, I'm playing next to Giannis on a team

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 8>that's really good for an organization that's been really good

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 8>to me. I think he'll probably resign and then from

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 8>there it's just about filling out the bench as best

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 8>they can with you'll probably try to resign guys like

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 8>Javon Carter, Joe Ingles, bring those guys back into the fold,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 8>and they'll probably look pretty similar with a handful of

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 8>moves around the edges. But that's not a bad thing,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 8>right they. I know their failure in the playoffs, and

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 8>I'll call it a failure even if you're honest, well

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 8>is you know that that was you know, leftist hour

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 8>tasting everybody's mouth. But that's still a very good basketball team.

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 7>Talking to Keith Smith bet MGM tonight, I just saw

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 7>that we had Christaps Porzingis get introduced and seeing him

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 7>where the Celtics and all that, it's a little bit

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 7>it's a little weird, but then again, he was a

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 7>wizard for a short period of time. What what do

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 7>you think of the one the upside and the ceiling

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 7>for the Celtics team and two can they afford this

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 7>entire roster with some of the big deals that could

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 7>be coming up down the road?

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think to answer the last part of your

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 8>question first, for them, I think for the Celtics there's

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 8>a little bit of a sense of let's let tomorrow's

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 8>problems be tomorrow's problems. We're a contender right now. It's

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 8>almost an NFL type of mindset where it's like, hey,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 8>we'll load up and go for it when we can,

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 8>and then you know, if we're we're not a contender.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 8>Who cares if our cap sheets a mess, you know

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 8>a few years down the line, Well, we'll let that

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 8>all sort itself out. And I think they also have

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 8>belief of, hey, if this really goes sideways on us,

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 8>all these guys are so good enough that we can

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 8>make trades and get out from under these deals if

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 8>we need to. So to that point, I think, you know,

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 8>I'm not locking it in that they're not gonna get rid,

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 8>not going to resign Grant Williams.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 9>I think a lot of people have gone there.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 8>I think there's a good chance they resign him when

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 8>things get really weird for the Celtics is next year

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 8>and the years beyond to Jalen Brown will likely be

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 8>on a Supermax, followed by Jason Tatum a year later.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 8>Kristaphs Porzingis sounds like there's gonna be some kind of extension,

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 8>So we'll see on the court Their big thing is

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 8>what are they going to do with point guard?

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 8>Marcus Smaher, for all his flaws, was the heart and

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 8>soul of that team.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 9>Right. He was the guy who made a play.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 8>Whenever he needed to play made he would hit the floor,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 8>he'd get the crowd fired up, he'd get everybody going.

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 8>So you're in a position if he's not there, you

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 8>may have to do something different. So what you're ultimately

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 8>looking at is you're going to be a different team

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 8>with porzingis in the fold. You hope, a better offensive team,

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 8>a different kind of defensive team, but maybe not a

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 8>bad one. He's a better defender than he gets credit for.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 8>But it's going to be a different look in Boston

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.239
<v Speaker 8>for sure. With bigger lineups, you'll try to maybe, you know,

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 8>hurt teams a little bit more with size than playing

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 8>so much perimeter base, which became a little bit of

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 8>a failing as the season went along.

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>See do you think middle of the road players still

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>end up getting these big max contracts now that we're

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing them be traded for chips.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, not middle of the road guys. I think teams

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 8>are gonna be a little bit more conservative and save

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 8>those for the best of the best superstars while also

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 8>pitching those superstars. Hey, if you take a little bit less,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 8>we might be able to do X, Y and Z

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 8>down the line that that's gonna be a thing that

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 8>teams are gonna start to pitch because of the restrictions

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 8>in the new CBA on those very very expensive teams.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 9>You're the best.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 7>Keith appreciate giving us the time. You know, it's a

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 7>busy time of year for you.

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 9>I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 7>Tan Favali jumps on with us, bleach your reports. I

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 7>guess it's pretty obvious what we're gonna start with here,

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 7>James Harden opting into his deal, and then he's gonna

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 7>probably get traded. I mean, first we hear the Clippers

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 7>and Knicks. Okay, so those are possibilities. How did we

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 7>get to this point and what makes the most sense

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 7>for him now?

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we got to this point in part because

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the way that the NBA is now structured. I don't

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>think stars of James Harden's age are going to get

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>as much money later on in their careers, and so

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>if he was going to opt out, his list of

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>suitors was just so finite that it made more sense

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>once Houston apparently pivoted to looking at guys who are

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>more plug and play or maybe just younger guys to

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>opt in, and you could dictate your destination that way.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think for him, the most sense to me

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>would clearly make if you can go to the Clippers

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to have to trade Kawhi or PG.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It puts you in Los Angeles, where we know that

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>he would definitely want to be, and you form a

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>very expensive big three and not a very durable big three.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think that team makes the most sense for him,

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>especially because the only other two that we're kind of

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned are Miami in New York. The Nicks don't make

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>any sense to me, and the Heat. I know he

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>would love Miami and the club scene there, but I

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think him and Jimmy Butler and his practice dmen

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>were meshed too well together.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Dan, you wrote about the ten most intriguing free agents

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 2>that nobody is talking about. I'm particularly interested in your

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>take on three of them. Javon Carter, who I think

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>if Budenholzer would have played in the playoffs more two

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>years ago, maybe they wouldn't have lost that playoff series,

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Io des Soon MoU and Johnny Utah Utah Watt Nabe, Like,

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>what do you like about these three and where do

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>you see them going?

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Javon Carter, I do expect to stay put just because

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks can't afford to lose him. But he's just

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>so plug and play, like when you look at his defense,

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and just a point guard who's not really a point guard.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 9>He'll play off the ball.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm probably most intrigued by Iyo Desson Mu.

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people see him down on him because

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>he didn't shoot the three ball.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 9>Two.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, this year we're talking about someone who can pass

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>keep the ball moving. Is six' five and The bulls

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>had him guarding through his first two years in THE

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>nba positions one through, four and now there's talk that

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they might just let him walk if he gets more

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>than like five million bucks a year or. Something so

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>if you can get him that, number even if it's

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>more than that, NUMBER i would absolutely take a. Flyer

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know you tell want. Then abby almost seems

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like he's become a mainstream free agent because of how

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>many teams without any money are just looking at him

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and he makes a ton of sense as a guy

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that's six' nine can shoot the ball really well from

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>three even if he won't take a ton. Of THEM

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>and i think he's become a really a good or

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>at least reliable help defender from both the inside. And

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>out and so if you're a team everyone wants winnings,

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>In general but if you're a team that just doesn't

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>have any money to spend and he's still got a

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>fall in that sort of minimum, CONTRACT range i don't

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>know how he's on. Your list and at this point

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<v Speaker 1>it really wouldn't shock me if some of these teams with,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you know THE bigger mls or cap space are, just, like,

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>well hey here's a two year deal that's gonna pay

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you noticeably more because we think that you're that plug

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and play into.

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<v Speaker 9>Our rotation do.

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<v Speaker 6>You think chicago ends up Moving zach levine here? This

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 6>offseason and what do you think even a package would

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 6>look like For zach levine and, you know a potential fit.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>AS well i, do think to answer your second, question

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>first That zach levine would net more than people are kind.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>OF expecting i feel like his deal has been viewed

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>as this net negative all of, a SUDDEN and i just.

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't agree he's like one of the most valuable off

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the balance scores IN, the NBA and i think if you,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>moved him you would probably get the equivalent of at

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>least three first round picks. OR prospects i think he's

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>been linked To, the knicks WHICH which i do believe

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot, of sense even though. They're fans don't

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>seem to THINK that i Could see miami.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 9>Maybe getting in. On him if they do make, HIM available.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I will say they Just, Paid VOUCH so i have

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>no idea why you would Move. Zach, LAVINE now i

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what type of message that sends about. Your

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>direction if You give vouch twenty million dollars a year

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed and then you go and Move, ZACH lavine i

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>just don't know where that. Leaves you and so i'd

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>expect them to run.

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 9>It, back.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah zach lavine linked To, The Knicks james harden link To.

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 7>The knicks As a, KNICKS fan i don't want to,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 7>see it but, YOU know i guess at, this point

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 7>a team that made it to the, Second round i'll

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 7>take it at. This point if not either one of,

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 7>THOSE guys i mean we saw Obviously the knicks take that,

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 7>next step and they've got a good young core and they've,

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 7>got assets they've. Got picks will they be aggressive this

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 7>offseason or are they going to be more in a

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 7>position where it's, all right let's kind of pick and choose,

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 7>our spot because they're really starting to build.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>SOMETHING here i think it will probably be, the latter

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>JUST because i think you look at a lot of

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the names that are, out there, and like Let's Use

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>james harden as. An example they got to get past

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>being involved with these guys who are past. Their Prime

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>and harden's about to turn. Thirty four how many great

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>years do you have left? In him and so you're

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to hold out for probably someone who's In

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>The donovan, mitchell age. RANGER younger i will say it

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me if they wounded up acting, more quickly

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>just because they're not as strong from an asset perspective as.

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 9>They were even a.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Year Ago Em manual Quickly And obi toppin are going

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to need a new. Deals soon you still Do Have,

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 1>quentin grimes but you've ALREADY. Paid, rj barrett who's probably

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit less valuable than he was on his.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Current contract your own draft picks are not as valuable

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>now because people actually think and believe you might, remain

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>good and then you have all these extra first rounders

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that are kind of fake, first, rounders, like Yeah the

0:34:58.239 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>dallas pick might convey with The W.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 9>Ohington, detroit picks those might.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Never convey AND so i know they're mentioned a lot,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>with stars but they actually don't have as strong of

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>an asset base right NOW as i think a lot of.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>People believe i'm curious your thoughts on What The cleveland cavaliers.

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Are Doing darius garland is now rumored to be in

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Trade Discussions, ryan windhore so that there's some sort of

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>outlandish rumors going on in terms of maybe players going To,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>The cavs like what's their game Plan Because jared Allen

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And evan mobley clearly. Didn't work they were favored in

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the series Against, the nets are Against, the knicks, excuse

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>me and it just really didn't vibe in the.

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 5>Playoff, ENVIRONMENT.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah I Would. Darius garland noise is.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>SO weird I think i'd be flabberg acid if They

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>moved Hamm Or donovan mitchell THIS summer i think you

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>look At The mobley allen pairing and it, works defensively

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>but they rebounded really poorly for having that size on,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>the court and then it does shrink the. Floor offensively

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and so when we're talking about, outlandish things it's clearly

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>not going to Be mobili and so are they Gonna

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Move jared allen and other stuff and maybe bring a wing.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>IN there i do, think though that they're not obligated to,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>go nuclear like if they could just sign a wing

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Like A josh richardson with their mid, level exception this

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>is a TEAM that i think just becomes infinitely more

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of a threat In. The east but when windhors sends

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>up those, cryptic signals you have to stop. And listen

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>AND so i really wouldn't expect it To. Be garland

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it Could Be, jared allen or if it's gonna be,

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>super nuclear Just The donovan. Mitchell stuff if he really

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>wants to Get To new yorker has, already, said HEY

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>when i get the free agency in a couple, Of

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>years i'm not. Coming Back the cows are gonna want

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to recoup as much of the first round equity as

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they gave up to. Get him as, they can and

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the way to do that would be to move him

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>with as much time as possible left on, his deal

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>which would be.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 7>Right now Talking To, Dan Favali, bleacher report Hosts Of

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 7>The hardwood, knocks podcast, you Know the spurs are obviously

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 7>an interesting spot Now with Victor wimber, yama there and

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 7>they were really bad. LAST year i think we, know

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 7>that but they were trying to. Lose games is there

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 7>a chance now we don't have win totals out yet FOR, the,

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 7>nba obviously but there a chance that this is a

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 7>team that maybe pulls in a couple of surprise free,

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.439
<v Speaker 7>agent moves or maybe a couple of decently, aggressive trades

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 7>or just something that takes them from, you know the

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 7>team last year that was obviously trying to LOSE to i,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 7>don't know maybe even just somewhere you win thirty four thirty.

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 9>Five, GAMES.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I think i think there's a chance they just

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>get there because Wen min yama is. That good we

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of saw It when lugadancic comes into the league

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's just immediately ready and if you're gonna play him,

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>HEAVY minutes i don't know what they anticipate his workload,

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to be and he's as transformative specifically on defense as

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed. TO be i think you immediately vault, into

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>hey maybe thirty eight plus. Win territory it's interesting, to

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>consider why not go out and try and sign even one.

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Impact veteran maybe It's a Fred van fleet to organize

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>your offense Or A. Brook lopez just give him the

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>short term win fall to pair him Next. To wemby

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>that would see significantly elevate. Their Ceiling if wemby is

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>who he think, he is he would just be so

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>out of character for. The organization and it's almost a

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit upsetting from a basketball fans perspective because it

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>feels like they're in a position to be good. RIGHT

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>away i, would, expect however them to probably use their

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>cap space kind of like WE'VE seen OKC and utah

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>use there, so far where they're soaking up some unwanted

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>contracts that are either attached to something or they're taking

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a flyer on a player who's considered a distressed asset

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>himself at.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 5>This, point yeah You.

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Mentioned okase i'm curious your thoughts about the JUMP for okc. This,

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 2>year obviously chet'sman with, the team the entire year recovering.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 5>From injury They draft Case and wallace Out.

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Of kentucky kentucky guards outperform their draft stock a lot IN, the.

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 5>Nba but they have now a ton.

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Of guards are they maybe going to be looking to

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 2>move some, guys out Like is Case and wallace kind

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of at the end of, The bench like what's their

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>strategy to think for?

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 6>This, SEASON yeah i honestly.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't know and your point about the guards is just.

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>SO salient i Wouldn't expect Case and wallace to play

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that much, right now Just, with Gidea lou DORT and.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Sga there they do have like sixteen players, under contracts

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna have to trim. That down maybe they're

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>right for a. CONSOLIDATION trade i honestly don't know what's

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>IN store a name long term for THEM that i would.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Just monitor and it's sacrilegious to Suggest In oklahoma city

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>is Just.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 9>Lu dort he's on a.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Great contract he's just, Massive defensively and if they're ever

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>looking to one make a consolidation trade or just open up,

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>more time if they don't want to, pay him or

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if they just want to make themselves more flexible in the.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Back court that's just sort of the name the larger

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>salary on their books that they could. Potentially Move and

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>i'm sure there are teams right now that would give

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>up at least two first round picks.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 6>For, him, wow damn we still got about. Two minutes

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 6>where are you at With? The pelicans because we pop

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 6>Up The western conference odds right now and they're twenty two,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 6>to one which is kind of hard to believe because

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 6>they look so. Good, before Obviously like zion got hurt

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 6>again and you worry about. His HEALTH but i Like,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 6>BRANDON ingram i like a Guy Like, trey murphy and

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 6>they're still. Really deep they got a bunch. Of talent

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 6>where are you at With?

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>The?

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 6>Pelicans though, you think, you know maybe they could bounce

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 6>back next season to be a. Playoff, team yeah.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>FOR sure, i, mean look they're dark. Horse contenders zion's gonna,

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say. Sixty games it's just we've yet to really

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>see him, do that and so how do you bank

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>on it and how do you plan? Around it they're

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do anything in. Free agency can you make

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a trade that gives you something someone

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that Works? With zion but also helps you while. He's

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>out it's a very tough line. To STRADDLE but i

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>think if they can go out on the trade market

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>or maybe free agency and add either a shooter or

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>rim protector to Pair, with zion presumably you'd want both

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>in the same Player Hashtag miles, turner still but if

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>they can add that type of skill set to their

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>rotation and they're able to stell you even, Relatively healthy

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>i'm talking like fifty eight sixty two Games, from zion

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they're absolutely a threat to finish at or near the

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>top Of.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>THE west i just wanted.

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:41.959
<v Speaker 2>To you You Mentioned, miles TURNER so i just wanted

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to like jump, on THAT like i saw That The

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>charlotte hornets extended a qualifying offer.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>To him do you think there's gonna be a big market.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>For him from other teams or do you think the

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 2>history will hold teams back from him because he's.

0:40:55.640 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>So, Talented yeah miles bridges with that felony domestic violence

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff just for lack of a, BETTER word i think

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>teams are gonna steer clear Outside, Of CHARLOTTE and i

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>would argue that this is a very callous way to look.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>At it but from a pure, BASKETBALL standpoint i think

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>it's worse for an outside team to come in with

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.399
<v Speaker 1>one of these bigger money offers now than it would

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>be For a charlotte team where, it's, like, well hey

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 1>he was, our player he didn't play. Last season he's

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna serve the balance of his thirty. Game suspension but

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he is a Name that i've heard people say that

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>some really, just weird egregious things. Could happen nobody's talking

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>about him because they assume he'll Stay, In charlotte but

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>if teams with money want to float offers, his way

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely someone who can on the basketball court move

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the needle.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 7>For you, all right still got about a, Minute here

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 7>so before, you go We Take james harden out of. The,

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 7>equation HERE this nba star that's most likely to be traded,

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 7>this offseason who would it be?

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 9>Right now, oh man that's a. Great question.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Say It's Karl. Anthony towns There's Just rudy gobert.

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