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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: hot pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have really got a special guest today,

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Speaker 2: Jason Chennuck. He is the North American CEO for Dukatti.

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Speaker 3: And it's no secret, Hannah that I'm a pretty big

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Speaker 3: Ducatti fan obsessed. Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm about to get my twentieth Dukati. So

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Speaker 2: and I've known Jason since he worked at Lamborghini. He

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Speaker 2: was the marketing director at Lamborghini. I still remember the

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Speaker 2: first day that I met you at the New Jersey

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Speaker 2: Motorsports Park, when you were teaching me how to drift

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Speaker 2: an event a door.

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh yes, which is definitely an art in itself.

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Speaker 3: Which I means so much fun.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me set up the topics that we

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Speaker 2: have today, because there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Going on in the world of automotive, Hannah.

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Speaker 2: As you pointed out, we're waiting for an auction on Monday,

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Speaker 2: and we're expecting a Ferrari a gto to set another

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Speaker 2: world record for ferraris. Plus, I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: old cars because you have a couple yourself. It's a

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Speaker 2: love affair that has its downsides.

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Speaker 5: Dysfunctional.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I also want to talk about a Remac.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jason's Dukati is a member of the Volkswagen Group,

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Speaker 2: and Remac is also very closely connected in that the

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Speaker 2: founder is now running Bugatti. And I don't know the

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Speaker 2: whole structure, but Remac recently had another world record set.

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Speaker 2: They've set so many that we're going to discuss. And

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the my Box that you're

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Speaker 2: driving this week. And then finally, I want to get

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Speaker 2: to all the new Ducati's that Jason and everybody at

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Speaker 2: the motor company is launching, talking about the new Panagalis,

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Speaker 2: the new multi Strata, the new supermano Is, which I'm

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Speaker 2: most excited about. So we'll get to everything that Ducatti's

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Speaker 2: putting out. They have one still to reveal in December,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think he's going to tell us what

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Speaker 2: it is, but.

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Speaker 6: You can tell us give you a hint, but I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna neither confirm nor to from DENI all right,

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Speaker 6: let's kick it off with the world of Ferraris, the

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Speaker 6: world of auctions, the world of collector cars.

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Speaker 3: Hannah.

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Speaker 2: I still remember when I was in high school having

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Speaker 2: seen Ferris Bueller's day off, I became obsessed with the

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Speaker 2: California Spider Cameron's dad had, and he that at the

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Speaker 2: time one of those fetched a world record price at

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Speaker 2: the time of fourteen million dollars.

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Speaker 3: What are we looking for?

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Speaker 1: Fourteen million probably won't crack the top, It might crack

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen these days on Monday, we're looking at

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Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty two Ferrari two fifty gto that. Arm

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Speaker 1: Sotheby's is saying they hope to get sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: For now, I'm hearing from sixty million dollars million six

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Speaker 5: to zero.

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing from my sources fifty million may be more realistic.

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Speaker 1: But arm Southeby's certainly is billing this car as a

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Speaker 1: sixty million dollar Ferrari. That would be the most expensive

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Speaker 1: Ferrari sold publicly this year, although there has been another

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Speaker 1: Ferrari sold that was closer to fifty million. It was

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Speaker 1: forty eight, so this may not be the most expensive

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Speaker 1: Ferrari sold ever publicly, but certainly for this year, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. It's the only this is

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Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty two raising Ferrari. It did race in

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Speaker 1: the Nurber Graing in sixty two and it won its class.

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Speaker 1: But it's the only one of those V twelve racing

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Speaker 1: Ferraris that got a four leter engine straight from the factory.

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Speaker 1: And they basically did that because they found some racing

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Speaker 1: loopholes that particular year. They knew they wanted to race it,

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Speaker 1: and they figured we can put in this four liter

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Speaker 1: engine and qualify for certain different races. And the car

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Speaker 1: did well. It did race Lamon and actually didn't end

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Speaker 1: up finishing. But it's been owned by the same guy

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Speaker 1: for almost four decades, so it sort of checks every

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Speaker 1: single box. And yeah, they're thinking fifty to sixty million.

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Speaker 1: We'll see sales on Monday.

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Speaker 3: You know who has a GTO? I think is what's

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Speaker 3: the name of the drummer for Pink Floyd.

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Speaker 2: He's got a big car collection, he's got a big

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Speaker 2: because I saw Mason Nick Mason, right, Yeah, I saw

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Speaker 2: him go on a Spanish talk show to explain why

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Speaker 2: I heard today from a car collector. I was talking

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Speaker 2: to Philip Richter here in New York. He runs Hollowbrook

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Speaker 2: Wealth Management, but also the Turtle Invitational is his car

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Speaker 2: show here in Bedford. He said that Enzo started building

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Speaker 2: V twelves he loved the twelve cylinder engine because he

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Speaker 2: was such a huge fan of the Packard V twelves

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Speaker 5: Wow, I have not heard that.

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Speaker 3: That is yeah wild.

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Speaker 2: Apparently like Packard had at the time, they were the

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Speaker 2: amazing V twelve And Enzo was obsessed with the Packard

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Speaker 2: with those.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obsession does lead you to good places,

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Speaker 1: I have to say. And whatever Enzo was obsessed with

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Speaker 1: really worked out for him because if you look at

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Speaker 1: the car market, Ferrari are the standard. They are the

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Speaker 1: blue chip vehicles. They hold their value. I mean this

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Speaker 1: year is actually it was actually a bit of a

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Speaker 1: cooling year for collector cars. The sales in Monterey we're down,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing some cooling, but Ferraris in particular are really

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Speaker 1: staying very solid. I can't remember if I told you

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Speaker 1: this before, but eleven of the fifteen top individual sales

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Speaker 5: We're Ferraris so it's kind of a sure thing. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was, I know, you love you know, your muscle cars, Matt,

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Speaker 1: and I was talking to Craig Jackson yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: from Barrett Jackson, and I was like, under what circumstances

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Speaker 1: would we have a muscle car like a Challenger, you

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Speaker 1: know in this really really rarefied error, because we have

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Speaker 1: had a few over a million yeah, completely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: We've had some Shelby, you know, some Shelby Cobras in

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Speaker 5: It's like Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari. It's almost boring.

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Speaker 2: What was that like, Jason, you worked at Lamborghini, I

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Speaker 2: think you were a head of marketing for North America.

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Speaker 2: What was it like being always compared to Ferrari.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, inevitably, there's a long shadow that they

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Speaker 4: cast and so and we and we're part of our

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Speaker 4: story is part of Ferrari story. It's that challenge. I

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Speaker 4: a point that we don't need to be that we

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Speaker 4: can be something else. We can be something that more accessible, approachable,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more let's got it loose and fun

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Speaker 4: when you look at the founders of both of those companies,

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Speaker 4: the other one was a little bit more polished. And

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Speaker 4: that itself, I think really led to the type of

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Speaker 4: loved about that time that I had there, because there's

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Speaker 4: a misperception of the type of client that owns a Lamborghini,

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Speaker 4: and then when you get in to really learn who

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Speaker 4: these people are, they're amazing. They're self made. They're people

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Speaker 4: that are let's say that maybe work their lives to

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Speaker 4: death to the point where they like, Okay, I'm finally

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Speaker 4: going to go do something nice for myself and the

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Speaker 4: reward themselves with this dream card that they saw in

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Speaker 4: you know, a seventies movie. It's nice, it's actually it's

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Speaker 4: it's fun to have let's call it something that challenges

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Speaker 4: you instead of just riding your own path.

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Speaker 2: Do you see, Hannah, the old Lamborghini's going for anywhere

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Speaker 2: close to older ferraris well.

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Speaker 3: Not yet.

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Speaker 1: But I have to say some of the coon Tashes, especially,

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Speaker 1: we wrote about one recently that was just sold.

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Speaker 5: It was in the Wolf of Wall.

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Speaker 3: Street, the white one.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Doug DeMuro, Doug DeMuro just bought a

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Speaker 2: white coon Tash, which is.

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Speaker 5: Kind of insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're holding their value. They're slowly getting

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Speaker 1: up there. They're certainly over a million dollars in value,

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Speaker 1: and I see that continuing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what you think, chazy, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Matt Farah bought one, and I thought, like,

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Speaker 2: first of all, how is Matt Farah?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, no dig at him because I'm

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Speaker 3: about the same size. How's he going to fit into

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Speaker 3: a coon Tash? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Jason, you would have trouble fitting into

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Speaker 2: an old Coune tash as well, right, And I.

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Speaker 3: Heard they drive horribly, but Doug says, well.

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Speaker 1: They are tractors. Let's not forget. I mean, they are tractors.

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Speaker 1: This is a classic case I think of you never

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Speaker 1: sometimes never want to meet your car heroes and buy

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Speaker 1: poster on your bedroom wall. Yes, sometimes you don't actually

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Speaker 1: want to drive them because they drive like a truck

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Speaker 5: And that's just the truth.

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Speaker 4: Keep it a dream, keep it a dream, keep it that.

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Speaker 4: I mean absolutely. I can tell you that I spent

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Speaker 4: some time in those cars, and they do drive like

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Speaker 2: I will tell you something really cool happened to me

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Speaker 2: so famously, Ferruccio Lamborghini got into a fight with Enzo

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Speaker 2: about the clutch in the Ferraris that kept breaking. And

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Speaker 2: then Ferruccio found out that Enzo was using the same

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Speaker 2: he made his own car. So a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: I was in the Motor Valley and Mota No. They

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Speaker 2: do this Motor Valley thing where they bring together all

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Speaker 2: the car makers and they have dinners and they have

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Speaker 2: a car show and stuff. And I saw Tamaso Lambghini

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Speaker 2: standing by an old, like nineteen fifties Ferrari, and I

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Speaker 3: To him and I said, yeah, I heard the clutches

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Speaker 3: in these things suck. He found it amusing.

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Speaker 4: I'd hope you would provoke a smile.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, in terms of old cars, I've never been one

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Speaker 2: to buy like I always wanted to have an old

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Speaker 2: collector car, and I've never pulled the trigger because I thought,

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Speaker 2: I'm into muscle cars really, so I might as well

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Speaker 2: buy a new muscle car that has the crash protection.

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Speaker 2: I'm a dad, you know, so I want safety and

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Speaker 2: stuff and the driveability of it. But Hannah, you you

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Speaker 2: have succumb and bought a couple. You have what a

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Speaker 2: C three corvette and have an old Rolls Royce like

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Speaker 2: seventies early seventies Rolls Royce.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and got access to quite a few.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it like deadly expensive to get these things fixed?

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Speaker 2: Certainly the Rolls Royce must be prohibitively.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, there's that famous saying there's nothing as expensive

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Speaker 1: as a cheap Rolls, by which they mean you can

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Speaker 5: An old silver Shadow. I've got a silver Shadow.

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Speaker 1: You can old pick up an old Silver Shadow for

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Speaker 1: fixing the hydraulic brakes and you know the alternator continually

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Speaker 2: That was where I feel like, bring a Trailer has

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't have to drive a car to buy it.

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Speaker 2: So I like the the retro releases, Like my favorite

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants one of those. Why why don't you guys

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Speaker 4: I mean, simply put, we're that that is a bike

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Speaker 5: Do you want to guess what the top speed was?

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Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy one miles per hour in reverse,

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Speaker 3: Just don't love electric cars.

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Speaker 5: So Rimac actually has their hands in a lot of some.

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Speaker 1: I think rim Mac is you know, they're having fun.

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Speaker 5: He's a family man who leads a quiet life.

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Speaker 2: Well, because I was wondering if if you've got him

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Speaker 4: Him Ah, not that I'm aware of, but it could

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Speaker 4: That's the million dollar question, isn't it. It's a really

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Speaker 4: Good news as we have in Moto GP or MotoE.

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Speaker 4: You're going up. And we did this analysis a couple

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Speaker 2: I also liked, you know, the acceleration. I love the breaking,

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Speaker 5: Is there anything you don't love that?

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Speaker 2: Jason Channa, you are the CEO of Ducati North America.

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Speaker 2: You guys have released a string of bikes, some of

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Speaker 4: of our motorcycles that we lobbed one of the cylinders off.

438
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Speaker 3: I keep calling it Supermano, but you have a different

439
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 3: name for it.

440
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: Back then it was the Supermano, but we actually the

441
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 4: model itself is the it's basically the super Mono, the

442
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 4: super quadr Mono, and the reason why is because the

443
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: olver square engine. What we did is we took half

444
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 4: of a Pentagley twelve ninety nine, which was the pinnacle

445
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 4: of the V two engines for us, and once again

446
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 4: we took a cylinder off. We took the horizontal cylinder

447
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 4: off of the motorcycle and kept the vertical and then

448
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 4: made sure to balance it out right. And we have

449
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 4: a motorcycle that when the engine is mounted into the

450
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 4: chassis's three hundred and thirty three pounds and it will

451
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 4: be delivering almost seventy five horsepower seventy four point five

452
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 4: and with a full race exhaust system that you're only

453
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 4: going to use for the track, of course, of course.

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jason, I'm curious you said earlier that you

455
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: know it's inevitable that you guys will do an electric bike.

456
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 5: But why? My question is why?

457
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 4: Why? Because that's part of it is to do with

458
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 4: our requirements as a manufacturer being part of this larger group.

459
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 4: But we're not specifically set on electric just so to

460
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: be clear, like, our objective here isn't to build an

461
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: electric motorcycle. That's not the box that we're checking. We're

462
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: checking the box of how do we reduce our carbon

463
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: footprint simply, how do we be a responsible sustainable company

464
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: in terms of what product we're bringing to market, and

465
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: electric is one of the boxes. It's one of the

466
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 4: areas for us to look. It seems to be the

467
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 4: one that's getting the most attention, so we have to

468
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: pay attention to it.

469
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Speaker 1: Are people asking for it absolutely? Customers?

470
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: No?

471
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: No, yeah, they're not. They're not. They're not. And that's

472
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 4: that's that's actually a point that seems to be not wanting.

473
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 4: People don't want to discuss that point.

474
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: But maybe they will after moto E, you know, because

475
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 2: the Desmo Sudichi was only in raise form until people

476
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: ask for it for so many for so long that

477
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: you had to finally put it.

478
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: Out well, and that's part of our strategy in terms

479
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: of moto E, is like, if we're going to do this,

480
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 4: we're going to do it at the highest level, and

481
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: we're going to use that as an opportunity to be

482
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 4: a real world R and D lab. I mean, that's

483
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 4: and that's what we're getting out of it. We're starting

484
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: to set times that are actually in line with what

485
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: we used to do in World Superbike, and so we're

486
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 4: closing the gap, But what better lab to be able

487
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 4: to experience that and find a way for it to

488
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 4: trickle down to the final consumer. But to your point,

489
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: kind of like, we're also looking at other technologies. For example,

490
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: simple things that have been done in automotive for years,

491
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: but it's never been applied to motorcycling, like cylinder deactivation

492
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 4: like the V four the rear bank of cylinders. You know,

493
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: whether you're at low RPMs when you're riding in town

494
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: or you're at low RPMs when you're out on the

495
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: open highway and you're just not cracking on the motor,

496
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: the bank of real cylinders will deactivate and actually it's

497
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: definitely good for a heat transfer for fuel reduction. So

498
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: there's those sorts of things we're looking at. Also alternative fuels,

499
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: which we know Modo GP is going to be going

500
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: to one hundred percent alternative fuels in a couple of years,

501
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: and so that's an area that we're looking at as well.

502
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 4: So I think there is that area of us being

503
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: a big company, let's say big in terms of our world,

504
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: and trying to find a way to be responsible in

505
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: actually what we're doing and bringing new product to market

506
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: and so this is something that this is why E

507
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: is definitely one of the solutions.

508
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: There's, by the way, the cylinder bank activate deactivation, which

509
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: happens on most of the multi stratas I think, does

510
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 2: not happen on the new multi strata on the RS,

511
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 2: the V four RS, because that goes back to the

512
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: Desmo Dramaic valves, which I'm so pumped about. And I

513
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 2: have had three multi stratas twins, and I was waiting

514
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: to get the V four until they put a smaller

515
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: front tire on it, which they did at the Pike's

516
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: Peak last year. And then I told Jason at one point, like,

517
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: but I want Desmo Drama valves on it, and he

518
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: was like, wait till next year.

519
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so now there are some little party.

520
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, and I'm pretty excited about that.

521
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 4: And you know, of course it's not I'm not a

522
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 4: sales prevention officer. I'm not going to tell somebody to

523
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: not buy a motorcycle. But I also know that I

524
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: will be hearing it for a long time if he

525
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: went out and got the Pike's Peak and then and

526
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: then the RS came a couple months later.

527
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: So tell us about the new Panagali that you put

528
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: out as an homage to the nine sixteen. And a

529
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: lot of people will say that the nine sixteen is

530
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever penned. But I

531
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: think it didn't even have a hundred horse power, right,

532
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: and this one's going to have basically two.

533
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: Well, the original nine sixteen was just bumping right about

534
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 4: above a hundred, just barely. Yeah. But this thing, it is,

535
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 4: it is perfectly put as an homage to the original

536
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 4: nine sixteen for a matter of recognizing its let's say,

537
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 4: it's place and history for Jakati, one of the most

538
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: iconic motorcycle designs ever. In fact, if you ever typed

539
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 4: google the word superbike, usually the nine sixteen is what

540
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 4: comes to mind right away. And it was important for

541
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: us to celebrate that because part of our heritage is

542
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 4: actually a really important part of who we are and

543
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: what we've done, and especially as we look at the

544
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: current design of the motorcycle that we have today with

545
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: the Pentagali V four series, I mean, the ability to

546
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: find that livery and to be able to connect it

547
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: with that model and then speck it out with all

548
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: of the best stuff, I mean from the carbon fiber

549
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: wheels to the dry clutch, but things that are actually

550
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 4: a real world. I had actually a client texting me

551
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 4: last night as I was flying into New York, asking

552
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: me should I get it? Should I get it? Should

553
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: I like, do you love it? Yes? Okay, then you

554
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: get it. And that's what it inspires those people that

555
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: are serious collectors to get it. And actually, right now

556
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: I could say, as of today, because I checked my

557
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: sales team, we've sold out of a North American production

558
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: of this motorcycle or allocation gone in one day.

559
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: That's good for you, but depressing for those of us

560
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: who haven't ordered one yet.

561
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, Matt, I'll get you on the list, all right.

562
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: So I'm very excited about all that. There's a new

563
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: bike coming. There's one more new bike that you guys

564
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: had to premiere in December, and I don't know what

565
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: it is, but I remember one time when I met

566
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: Magnus Walker. I think we were in Geneva or maybe

567
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: in Frankfort at a Lamborghini unveiling. You had put a

568
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: bike out that was like unveiled at the same time

569
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: as a Lamborghini, and they had kind of the same

570
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: livery and it was so cool. And that partnership makes

571
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me because Italian, Yeah, it's Italian.

572
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: They're both like in Bologna basically, and I just get it.

573
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: But this next bike you're gonna put out as a

574
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: collab and what it is not with Lamborghini.

575
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 4: It's not with Lamborghini, and it's definitely a departure from

576
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: what people would maybe normally expect. There's some collaborations where

577
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: you it's an obvious, right, it's a gimme. This one

578
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: is a bit of a stretch for us. But it's actually,

579
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: like I said, I've to you earlier, I've seen the

580
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 4: bike in person. It's just beautiful, elegant, the perfect collaboration.

581
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: We're going to be hosting it at Art Basel in

582
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: Miami the first week of December, so that's where we're

583
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: going to unveil this motorcycle. And I think that there's

584
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: a great opportunity for us to be able to reach

585
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: actually a little bit of a different audience with this.

586
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 4: And that's the one thing that is a brand we're

587
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: always trying to do, how do we stretch but stay

588
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: true to who we are And part of it is

589
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: the design. And I can tell you that our design team,

590
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 4: Andrea Ferrasi, along with the other designers from the other company,

591
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: worked very closely on the details of this motorcycle to

592
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: bring something to market that I think will be a

593
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: bit unexpected.

594
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 5: You mentioned reaching an audience.

595
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: This is a self serving question, because I'm going to

596
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: get a Scrambler full throttle in a couple weeks to try.

597
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I have to imagine that the Scrambler is your best

598
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: selling bike.

599
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 5: Is that true? I mean, Matt has all.

600
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: Of his fancy, expensive, extremely powerful bikes, but honestly, I

601
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: love the Scrambler.

602
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: Agreed, totally agree.

603
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Is that actually your best selling model? Is that when

604
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: people think of Ducatti, is that what they actually think about?

605
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 4: Actually, No, the Scrambler had when it first came out.

606
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: It was part of this kind of on the tail

607
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 4: end of this trend of postmodern heritage influenced motorcycles, and

608
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: it did very very well for us, and consistently it

609
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: does well. But it's very interesting to see that since

610
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: the shift of the pandemic and the motorcycling market, we've

611
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: really seen a lot of our growth in terms of

612
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: our volumes and improfit going to our higher end product,

613
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 4: and the Scrambler has been great because it allows access

614
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: and entry to Dukati, into the entire world of Ducati,

615
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: but through let's say, something that's unintimidating and fun. I

616
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: personally still have my Scrambler desert sled I've had for

617
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: five years now, and I get on it and I

618
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: ride it, and I love it. Eight hundred cc air cooled,

619
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's seventy something horse power. It's just fun

620
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: and fun. Yeah, and that simplicity of riding is it

621
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: reminds me what got me into motorcycling in the first place.

622
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: But then of course I like to get on a

623
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: multi strata before rally and crack the throttle triple digits

624
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: on open roads. So it's great that we have that

625
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: that broad breadth of product that allows people to find

626
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: their way into Doukati as well. So and the next

627
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: these current versions of the next gen Scrambler have been

628
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: spectacular for us because we've been able to add a

629
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: lot of the technology to the motorcycles, making them i'd

630
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: say definitely safer, more easily accessibly, more approachable, writing modes

631
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: and all of this stuff, but still have that kind

632
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: of classic design that's been a little bit more modernized.

633
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 5: I love that.

634
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say, really, your business is showing

635
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: growth in the more expensive things, because that's the same

636
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: exact with automakers. I mean, they are just it's like,

637
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: price isn't really a consideration. If you're over a certain

638
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: threshold of what the MSRP is, it doesn't really matter

639
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: to the people who are I mean it does, but

640
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: that's not going to be the prohibiting factor for the metal.

641
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. In fact, this is something that we

642
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: have engineered by design in North America as well, because

643
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: we see the opportunity. We see that as being a

644
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: differentiator for us and as a brand. When we do that,

645
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 4: we actually are more profitable and we get to make

646
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: investments back into the client experiences. And at the end

647
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: of the day, there's a lot of great motorcycles out there,

648
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: but what do people want. They want stuff to do

649
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: with their motorcycles, right, Like, Okay, I'm biased, Matt, You're

650
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: probably a little biased about the greatest motorcycles in the world.

651
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean anything unless you have something to

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Speaker 4: do with it. So we have been really investing on

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Speaker 4: creating experiences for these for these clients that go beyond

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Speaker 4: of the garage, which is definitely an ownership experience system. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jason has been great having you here with us in

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Speaker 2: the studio. Thanks so much for joining us. Jason Chennik

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Ducati North America. And we didn't

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Speaker 2: some point you're going to write a story about it, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have the review in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: So look forward to that in a couple of weeks.

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