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Speaker 1: episode on but for you listeners, it's Wednesday, twenty twenty four. Yes, yes, yes, man,

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Speaker 1: what a shitty there is.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, there's only one day hat like National Holiday Animal Day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's National Indian Pudding Day.

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Speaker 2: to the description of this. In the seventeenth century, English

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, AKA, what's this? What's this? There's natsies everywhere?

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Speaker 1: courtesy of Helseion Solid on the Discord. It's Nightmare before

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Speaker 1: Christmas Season, probably the spookiest Nightmare before Christmas season we've

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Speaker 1: Fascism is spooky. I've always said it. I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host mister Miles

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Speaker 1: Gradkay macgu Chodes Madca Chodes. Don't get how terriffs would work.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful to have you. So, I'm so relieved that

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Speaker 3: But yeah, ectoplasm was this this trick that mediums would

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Speaker 3: Sounces were a lot weirder and more sexual than we

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Speaker 1: And you're and you'll be able to like exercise this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's sexual liberation definitely. The show is cheese cloth,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like really thin and you use it.

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Speaker 3: There are no rules when it comes to cheese cloth.

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Speaker 2: so angry and been like this place is fucking cooked.

432
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Speaker 2: It's not like, oh I'm so afraid from it's like this,

433
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: holy shit, dude, this this thing is cooked fully. And

434
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Speaker 2: they thought it was going to be like the crying

435
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: like liberal meme from you know, twenty sixteen outside like

436
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: a Trump protest, and they just seem to be totally

437
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 2: caught off guard that people are just telling them. Their

438
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: response is like, hey, Trump won.

439
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, good, I hope you get a front

440
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: row seat to all the bullshit that's going to inevitably

441
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: hit everyone. They're like huh huh, whoa. And I think,

442
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of the true MAGA supporters,

443
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: all they all they know is like the sadistic pursuit

444
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Speaker 1: of inflicting pain on your political rivals. That's it. They

445
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: know nothing of actual governance. The whole thing is pain

446
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: is pain, and now people so like so when people

447
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: don't offer up the face water and instead they're just

448
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: like saying stuff like yeah, do you know what the

449
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: fuck you've done? Now, they're like confused and doing.

450
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Stuff like like like searching tariffs or you know what

451
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: is denaturalization And they're just kind of now acting like

452
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Speaker 2: a confused dog that has been scolded for like shitting

453
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Speaker 2: all over the house. No, yeah, yeah, And I think

454
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just interesting to see this

455
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Speaker 2: sort of energetic exchange happen because I think it really

456
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: does reveal what it's like again that this was purely

457
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: about being like, yeah, man, but like let's get Trump

458
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: all wins, just to see how like how shit goes

459
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Speaker 2: for everyone else, completely ignoring the fact that this is

460
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Speaker 2: everyone is on the same is in the same but

461
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Speaker 2: well most of it, aside from like the top like

462
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: one percent are in the same boat here.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was definitely I think added to that of

464
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: fuck the system, like haha, look at the trip the

465
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: triggered mainstream media, look at the triggered libs, Like whenever

466
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Speaker 1: Trump says something that makes people like laughing point and

467
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of quiet right now, and it

468
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: does feel and the mainstream media has just gone into

469
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: a mode where they're like, we're wrong, We're sorry, we

470
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: actually think he's smart now, and so yeah, I feel

471
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Speaker 1: like they don't quite know what to do with it

472
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: until he starts fucking shit up again, but right till

473
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Speaker 1: the pain is really tangible in that way.

474
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Speaker 3: What a weird thing to go through your life just

475
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Speaker 3: being like, oh, I hope I see someone fucking cry today.

476
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: I just desire that so much. It's just such a

477
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: like it must be it must feel really bad to

478
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: be in that body of like a person that is

479
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: just hoping for tears every day, like.

480
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Speaker 1: If like yeah, if your like life force is restored

481
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Speaker 1: by watching others suffer, like purely for like the sport

482
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Speaker 1: of it. Like we're just in such a bad way.

483
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: We're in a bad yeah, how our society is working

484
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: and where empathy goes or just doesn't even come up

485
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: at all. Jesse Waters on his show, admitted that his

486
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: Trump support has also affected him too, And this is

487
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Speaker 1: him on his show on Jesse Yeah, people.

488
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Speaker 4: Are taking some space in the Water's household. I'll have

489
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: you know that I was not invited to my mother's

490
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Speaker 4: house for Thanksgiving. Apparently there wasn't enough room. She said

491
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Speaker 4: it was a scheduling situation. And then at the last

492
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Speaker 4: second invited me to come over on Black Friday. I

493
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Speaker 4: told him, no, thanks, I'll be a best Buy, all right.

494
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Speaker 1: At least he got that, you know, at least he

495
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Speaker 1: got that in he'll be at best Buy? Will you?

496
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Speaker 1: Will you? That's cool that he gets to like go

497
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Speaker 1: on and say the insult he wished he had thought

498
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Speaker 1: of to his mother, Yeah about it, like I And

499
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Speaker 1: then I told my mom like, actually, you know what,

500
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Speaker 1: fuck you, mom, Like that's thanks for nothing. Giving let

501
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Speaker 1: me a Best Buy buying a Nintendo switch, like maybe

502
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Speaker 1: two of them.

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Speaker 2: Mom, I don't even care. That's what I'm gonna do.

504
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna by iPad fuck you. Uh yeah, I mean

505
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Speaker 2: I think it's again. So many conservatives just clearly thought

506
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: that there there are consequences of of electuring Trump were

507
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: merely that just saying Trump won and not again the

508
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: raft of policies that this brings, and it's just a

509
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Speaker 2: very I don't know. I mean, like I guess, like

510
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: you know, a part of me has always wondered, like

511
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Speaker 2: what is it gonna take for most American people to

512
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: understand like shit is bad and it needs to change,

513
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: and like whatever insulation you think is protecting you is

514
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: very tenuous.

515
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Speaker 1: It is not. It is not gonna hold forever. And

516
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Speaker 1: part of me is like I think, just.

517
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Speaker 2: Like anything, especially American people, it's like we don't know

518
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: until we've fully just fucking burned ourselves on the fucking

519
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: fire that were like.

520
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh fire's bad. Oh everybody said fire's bad. I'm like,

521
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

522
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Man, my dad he was he's a fire guy, so

523
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 2: I thought I could touch it, and now I'm burned.

524
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Speaker 1: That maybe that like, I don't know, Like, it's also

525
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Speaker 1: it's just also fucked up to think them like, well,

526
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Speaker 1: I guess maybe if enough of us suffer that we

527
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Speaker 1: can move past it. But I think that's what also

528
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Speaker 1: makes me a little bit weary when you see people

529
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Speaker 1: gloating over the fact that people are about to suffer

530
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Speaker 1: for the ill informed decisions or fully informed decisions they've made,

531
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: because that is just fully like when all bets are

532
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: off like that, that's truly when the system won't change

533
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: at all, and people are going to just fully go

534
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Speaker 1: to their corners and be like, well, if I have

535
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Speaker 1: to kind of change my beliefs in this way to

536
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Speaker 1: protect myself from that, as long as I'm not those

537
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: fuckers getting completely beat down, then I'm fine.

538
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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's a very i don't know, yeah, very

539
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: delicate balance that we have right now. And I totally

540
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: get why people are fucking so angry because so many

541
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: people have been talking. But again, I think this also

542
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: speaks to the kinds of like who watches the news

543
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: who doesn't, and just because it's being said over and

544
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Speaker 2: over on MSNBC or maybe sixty percent of the time

545
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: on CNN or something like that, that doesn't mean everyone

546
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: is hearing that message either, and just but I get

547
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: the anger that because this is going to bring so

548
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: much suffering to many people that you want to be

549
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: able to sort of singularly be like, yeah, well fuck you,

550
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: and it's going to be all you, or it's all

551
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: going to be the people who decided to vote in

552
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: solidarity with Palestinian people, or it's all the fault of

553
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: people who just felt that trans rights were actually human

554
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: rights and those kinds of things. It's completely ignores like

555
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: the real the damage that has already been done that

556
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: we're not continuing to acknowledge. So I don't know, it's

557
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: just precarious at the moment, and I hope that we're

558
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: able to sort of, yeah, fully understand that, like the

559
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: options aren't going to be let's point and laugh, but

560
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: we actually are going to have to like resist in

561
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Speaker 2: a way and not the twenty sixteen way of resisting.

562
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Speaker 1: Like count the mainstream media to do, yeah, to be

563
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Speaker 1: like such a big part of it, because they are

564
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Speaker 1: badly weakened and also seem to be very easy to

565
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Speaker 1: knock off the message and just be like wait, what, Oh,

566
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: I guess he's right yeaheah, Like I mean one of

567
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Speaker 1: the historical presidents that what like was going through my

568
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: head is like should this give me hope? Is that

569
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: Richard Nixon was had just run for president for the

570
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Speaker 1: third time in nineteen seventy two, his last election, he

571
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: won five hundred and twenty electoral votes out of five

572
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight. He won five hundred and twenty

573
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Speaker 1: electoral votes, sixty percent of the popular vote, and like

574
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Speaker 1: just an all time like destruction. He was running on

575
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Speaker 1: like a racist message like back then he called it

576
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Speaker 1: the Silent Majority, but it was just very racist messaging.

577
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: But people like also he was very like kind of personally.

578
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: People were suspicious of him. He resigned in disgrace about

579
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Speaker 1: like two years after being sworn at like less than

580
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Speaker 1: two years, about a year and a half. I think

581
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: things are much different now because we don't have a

582
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Speaker 1: strong media and we don't have a media that anyone's

583
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: going to listen to. I've also been thinking about two

584
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Speaker 1: thousand and four and just how demoralizing it was to

585
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Speaker 1: have George W. Bush re elected after like the Iraq

586
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: War was happening. We knew there were no w we

587
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Speaker 1: knew like that it was a disaster and he had

588
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: lied to get in, and like the fact that he

589
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: still won like fairly decisively was incredibly demoralizing. I just it.

590
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: I think if this loss can be clarifying to people

591
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Speaker 1: who aren't Republicans, I think that's the only thing that's

592
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: actually because those historical precedents I think we're are just

593
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: two different. Things are too kind of fucked right now,

594
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Speaker 1: the information economy, like how people are getting their information,

595
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: who like the weakness of the mainstream media. But like

596
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: just the Democratic Party completely cratered in this election, and

597
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: like maybe it needed to, and like it it feels

598
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: like there are clear and learnable lessons for whoever is

599
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: going to come next, whether it be the Democratic leadership

600
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: or not. But I and like one of the lessons is,

601
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: like you need to target, not like Trump can't just

602
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: be the target. In fact, like it might be helpful

603
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: to not make Trump the main target and instead focus

604
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Speaker 1: on the mainstream Democratic Party, the billionaires who fund it,

605
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: the mainstream media, because like those are all, truthfully the

606
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: structural things that are standing in the way of getting

607
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Speaker 1: like making any progress.

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Speaker 3: Right, all things that have kind of started to swing

609
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Speaker 3: right anyway, Yes, exactly, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's just it's really bad right now.

611
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Speaker 1: I've heard people say it's been bad before. I don't

612
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: think it's ever been this bad. But you know, when

613
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: things are bad, like things can swing in a hurry.

614
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: And I think this party, like this Trump presidency is

615
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: going to be an absolute shit show, you know of

616
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: like billionaires like just grabbing everything that they possibly can,

617
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: and we just need people who are willing to stay

618
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: focused and what work locally. But also I don't think

619
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Speaker 1: it's like and we give up now because Trump won

620
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: this one election kind of convincingly. I think there are

621
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: just like very a handful of very clear messages that

622
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: you could run on, and like the Democratic Party completely

623
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: fucking up in this last election might actually have like

624
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: lit the way for like a future of like what

625
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: not to do if anybody's willing to learn that lesson.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like looking at the historical pressens is

627
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: really comforting, even though it's you can't really draw a

628
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: conclusion decisively, but like that's I think on American hysteria.

629
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Speaker 3: That's kind of what we do as we go in

630
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: the past and we say, okay, how is the past?

631
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: How these through lines, continued on how do we then

632
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: take these through lines and try to understand how they

633
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: affect the present moment? And I mean what comes to

634
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: mind too, is like Nixon and Bush, is that so

635
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: much of their platform was like against protesting and against

636
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: Vietnam protesters, student protesters, and Bush against Iraq war protesters

637
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: and just using that. And now of course we're seeing

638
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: that obviously with pro Palestine protests. And I think that

639
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: that's like just that just came to mind as like

640
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: a very clear thing that was happening in each of

641
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: those elections, and it's just that's demoralizing.

642
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Cool, yeah, right, but again that was the Democrats this

643
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: past Yeah, that was running the most clear like quote

644
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: the quote that they were fucking putting on T shirts

645
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: is talking now or like whatever she said when somebody

646
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: tried to interrupt speech, Like, yeah, that was what they

647
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: were fucking rallying around. I mean the Cheney like focusing

648
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Speaker 1: on having like a Cheney endorsement was not like an accident.

649
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. It was part of their overall thing,

650
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: which was, you know that they were going to be

651
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Speaker 1: what neo conservatives were. They're like, yeah, we're going to

652
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Speaker 1: be the old your grand you know, Trump swept to

653
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: power on this not your grandpa's Republican party. We're going

654
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Speaker 1: to be your grandpa's Republican Party. And it just again

655
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Speaker 1: like seems like very learnable, huge swings and misses that

656
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Speaker 1: in like retrospect of a week a week and a

657
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Speaker 1: half are like, what the fuck were you good thinking? Yeah, yeah,

658
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Speaker 1: so well.

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Speaker 3: And Democrats did the same thing. Was the you know,

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Speaker 3: with Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam. It's like there it's a

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Speaker 3: more as a bipartisan issue, I think, And so it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like just not.

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Speaker 2: Right because yeah, the people who are objecting to the

664
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Speaker 2: Iraq war fair few and far between you and those

665
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Speaker 2: few people who have been like I actually knew that

666
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: back then this was some bullshit. But again, the ye,

667
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Speaker 2: it's when you're you're going against machines that have been

668
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: fully in like just running at full tilt for decades now,

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Speaker 2: and to just like one person is just going to

670
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Speaker 2: get crushed by it unless you know, we have a

671
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Speaker 2: more of a plurality of people that first of all,

672
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Speaker 2: can articulate. I think that's the biggest thing, is being

673
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Speaker 2: able to articulate what the danger is what the evil

674
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Speaker 2: is because right now you have a lot of these

675
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: establishment liberals offering all kinds of different explanations that are

676
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: avoiding clearly articulating what where the rot is coming from.

677
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Speaker 2: And it's a lot of stuff like, I mean, do

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Speaker 2: we acknowledge that sex is a biological truth, but we

679
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Speaker 2: also respect how other people want to like no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: like get off that shit.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't like we don't need to be so bothered

682
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Speaker 1: by these kinds of things, or not that I'm bothered,

683
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Speaker 1: but like the idea to think that other people are

684
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna be so bothered because guess what if your bills

685
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: are paid and if your grandma doesn't have to toil

686
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: till she's nobody five fucking years old, they're not gonna

687
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: give a fuck if other people have their rights like

688
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: or getting gender affirming care. That won't matter to one person.

689
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Speaker 1: But when you are, when you are lacking so much,

690
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: you start looking at what other people. Why are they

691
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: talking about these people? What are we talking about my

692
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: grandma has to work till she's eighty, Like how often

693
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: are we seeing elderly people working so much? And you're

694
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Speaker 1: this happens all the time. You see this everywhere you go.

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Speaker 2: In to strangle Oh my god, I cannot like I

696
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: can't believe this person is working, Like I can't believe

697
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Speaker 2: that this person has to work, and we don't we're

698
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: not taking care of our people.

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Speaker 1: These kinds of these are the things that people see

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Speaker 1: and reinforce these ideas that there's something has to change.

701
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Speaker 1: But if you're coming in and because in this vacuum,

702
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Speaker 1: because clearly the parties on its knees, you have these

703
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: people trying to either prop up the same neoliberal nonsense

704
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Speaker 1: that doesn't get to the heart of the matter, or

705
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Speaker 1: trying to dismiss people who are actually clearly trying to

706
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Speaker 1: articulate it, because that's truly gonna upset the balance of power.

707
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Speaker 1: And in terms of what is the quote like left

708
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Speaker 1: or whatever you want to describe this, And that's kind

709
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: of the stage rat because you see you have like

710
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Speaker 1: the Matthew Iglesiases of the world who are like these

711
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: reporters who are all in on this centrist shit and

712
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Speaker 1: they're like, I have a new I've behold my new

713
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: manifesto that's like that's like so broad, but still filled

714
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Speaker 1: with these things like still kind of like you know,

715
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Speaker 1: bowing to the things that irk conservatives, and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to thread the needle without like properly getting like to

717
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Speaker 1: the heart of the matter, because so much of the

718
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Speaker 1: stuff is about, like we need to have like a

719
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Speaker 1: better social safety net, but not one of these points

720
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Speaker 1: says that we need to tax the fuck out of

721
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Speaker 1: the wealthy, right like exactly, that's fine, that's fine as

722
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Speaker 1: an idea, But if we're not, if we don't actually

723
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Speaker 1: buy in on how we get there, then that shit

724
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: is just words. Yeah, it needs to be. You need

725
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: to have a villain, you need to That's what I'm saying.

726
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Like the thing that trust like the first villain that

727
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Speaker 1: Trump like killed, And I think it's the base that

728
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: his entire movement is built on was the mainstream Republican

729
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Speaker 1: Party as it existed in twenty sixteen. He talked about Cheney,

730
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Speaker 1: he talked about Bush. He did he went against the

731
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Speaker 1: mainstream Republican orthodoxy, and then from there was able to

732
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Speaker 1: build his movement. Like the Democrats' brand right now is

733
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Speaker 1: to change what they say based on what they think

734
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Speaker 1: is going to be popular, Like that is what their

735
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Speaker 1: brand is. Somebody needs to come forward and say that

736
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Speaker 1: and fucking at attack, attack, and be the person who

737
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Speaker 1: is opposing tru who is built on like you know,

738
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Speaker 1: tearing the Democratic Party as it exists to the ground.

739
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Like they change their position on whether racism is bad,

740
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Speaker 1: they change their position on whether immigration is bad, like

741
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: based on what they think people are going to think

742
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: about that, And that sends the exact opposite message from

743
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: what people are responding to with Trump, which is like

744
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: with Trump, the thing, like the free media that everybody

745
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: talks about is the mainstream media saying how could he

746
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: say that? Saying that is against the rules, but by god,

747
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: he's saying it anyways, and that makes him look like

748
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: principled and like he believes in something. The thing he

749
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: believes in is fucking horrifying, But it does send a

750
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: message of like authenticity at a time when like politics

751
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: prior to this was defined by just like bullshit and

752
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: obfuscation and like playing this game that everybody knew was

753
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: a game, but they were playing it like they like

754
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: we didn't know it was a game, so like it

755
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: just there can't be like we we It's not just

756
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like we need somebody who focuses on economic populism. We

757
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: also need somebody who focuses on how broken the Democratic

758
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Party has been up to this point and is willing

759
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: to like say that out loud. The Democrats are still

760
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: suffering from the fact that, like the last time they

761
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: had a successful candidate who actually like touched on economic populism,

762
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: that candidate then went and like bailed out the Wall

763
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Speaker 1: Street banks in like during the financial crisis. That's like

764
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: a people remember that shit too. People remember that and

765
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: like you can't just come out and be like, well,

766
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: this this policy here, it reflects like we could you know,

767
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: and like come forward with more. It's complicated policies. You

768
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: need a central message that is fuck what those people

769
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: were talking about. Yes, Like fuck what Obama is talking about,

770
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Speaker 1: because what he did was said hope and change and

771
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: then poisoned the words hope and change by bailing out

772
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Speaker 1: Wall Street and like doing the same shit that Clinton

773
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Speaker 1: was doing. Like you need somebody who's willing to fucking

774
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Speaker 1: stand on that.

775
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because right now everyone who's been like you know,

776
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Speaker 2: holding the banner up for the Democratic Party, they are

777
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: not gonna they're not gonna let go. No, So they're

778
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna do whatever they can to say the right

779
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: mix of words to make it seem like they're like, well, look,

780
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Speaker 2: I'm Chris, I'm Senator Chris Murphy, right, you know, like

781
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Speaker 2: I I and I do get what's happening, and I'm

782
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: gonna say I get what's happening. But it's like, no, motherfucker,

783
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: you are a fucking ghoul. You are also a creature

784
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: of this political machinery that operates in DC, and you've

785
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: done it faithfully, and there's no way that we can

786
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: trust you because you've already compromised that like any values

787
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: you've had. Because the thing is, any if you have,

788
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: if your values are negotiable, you have no values.

789
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Speaker 1: Right, That's plain and simple. If they're negotiable, you have none.

790
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: You have none then.

791
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: Because anyway, so I think I'm I'm looking forward to

792
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: whatever this fight is going to be within the Democratic

793
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Party because it will be because that's also going to

794
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: say a lot about what our future, like what our

795
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: stakes are for the future.

796
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Speaker 1: But if it's someone coming with that weak ass shit again,

797
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh boy, yeah, just something that I find

798
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: myself wanting to say. Like Democrats tried with Bernie, they

799
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't let Bernie win. Yeah, that was a start, But

800
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: like it's like we need to do better, we need

801
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: to learn from that and move forward, Like it can't

802
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: just be and that's the end. Sorry, Chelsea.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just going to say, it's like I

804
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: love all of this, and I just don't know how

805
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: anyone breaks through the brick wall of the Democratic Party

806
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: to actually run. Yeah, I don't know, and that's hope.

807
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Speaker 3: Like maybe that's four years of whatever we're going to

808
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: try to figure out.

809
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's I mean, at this point, it's

810
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: like you just have to outright be like I'm not

811
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: going to fucking buy whatever the fuck you put in

812
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Speaker 2: front of me.

813
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Speaker 1: I don't get fuck what it says. If it's if

814
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: it's coming from the same fucking place, I don't give up. No, No,

815
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: I think it needs to come from outside, like I do,

816
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: and I know it seems unlikely at this time, but

817
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: so has so did you know the strength of the

818
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Sanders campaign, so did the strength of the Trump campaign.

819
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: Like people like the system. The people are like begging

820
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: for this message, and it might be that the Democratic

821
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: Party is not gonna be willing to deliver it, but

822
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: somebody needs to and I should be someone younger. I mean,

823
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: like you know, Bernie definitely helped crack the door open.

824
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he also did the thing

825
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: that people do on Capitol Hill, which is like, let

826
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: me duck low real quick. What was Biden doing? Okay,

827
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna really speak up too much. Okay, oh

828
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: y'all took an l I got something to say. No,

829
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: Like that is just how shit moves in DC.

830
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Speaker 2: And but at the same time, I think that the other,

831
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: the other disconnect really comes generationally where it's like people

832
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: need to really understand what people have been through and

833
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: seen and what their prospects look like on the horizon,

834
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: rather than octogenarians who are like, I don't know, I'm

835
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: probably gonna die in five years anyway, so whatever that

836
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: that doesn't help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, part of the thing that is making

838
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: me like giving me not even a glimmer of hope,

839
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: like a shard, like a little like a sparkle, a

840
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: single sparkle of hope, is how weak the Democratic Party

841
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: is right now and how definitive and clarifying this loss

842
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: could be two people if like the messaging just starts

843
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: coming consistently like this is what the people are saying,

844
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: this is what the Democratic party isn't as currently constitute,

845
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: isn't willing to say, and I don't know, hopefully hopefully

846
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: something catches, but yeah, we should make a break and

847
00:47:53,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: come back and make fun of Wheel of Fortune. And

848
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: we're back, and at least we can laugh at this

849
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: dumb asshole on we all fortune, all of our angers

850
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: like this fun. I'm sorry, sir, you know I would.

851
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: I did thee my one game show experience. I went

852
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: on Jacquise's comedian feud like family feud with you know.

853
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: My episode was like comedians and improvisers versus podcast hosts,

854
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: and I got up there and did not I did

855
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: not like have my I was like just fucked up.

856
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: So like I get it, Okay, I get it. Ain't like, look,

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00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: I love Wheel of Fortune because it's precisely one of

858
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: these shows that you watch and you easily start pumping

859
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: your own ego up and you're like, I am way

860
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: fucking smarter than this motherfucker, are you for real? And

861
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: there are those moments are like I got it and

862
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: you say it out loud and then you've clearly used

863
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: a totally like incorrect spelling that just only exists in

864
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: your mind, and then you immediately take a seat because

865
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, yeah, yeah, that was before problematic things

866
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: about Italian people. Have you seen the one that happened

867
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: in May where the guy was talking about the butt.

868
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Does this real? I don't think so. Okay, I just

869
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: want to I just want to highlight some wheel fortune

870
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: people being very bad. I just want to make sure.

871
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: I just want to get this out of the way,

872
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: so we we realized that this is a thing that

873
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: happens all the time. This is this is from May

874
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: where a guy was trying to solve a puzzle again

875
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: a phrase, and this is how he decided to solve

876
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: the phrase tomorrows right in the butt.

877
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean.

878
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: Shocked they aired it this maybe blob.

879
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: They write a number of letters in the first no,

880
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: right the butt. Right, that's five letters right in the butt.

881
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: I just love again. It's also like this weird rors

882
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: test too. Right in the butt. I saw button. I'm

883
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: not gonna lie next to exclamation exclamation point, but just

884
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: that this is something in the butt. The way this

885
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: man's face fell, but he says it, no, wait, are

886
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: you telling me it's not? Yeah, that's yeah. This is

887
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the best, great, great great.

888
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: I love watching people catch up, like catch up with

889
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: themselves after they've spoken, and you can see like hold.

890
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: On right five, Like the shot it's like the shockwave

891
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: from an explosion. It's like you saw it and then

892
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: you're like huh and then it's like, oh, exactly right,

893
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: yeah that was maybe that wasn't just the audio TV right.

894
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: The audience is like, oh, I think the Wheel Fortune

895
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: audience does tend to be even older than Jeopardy, right,

896
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: Like it's the way I mean people who used to

897
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: be able to keep up on Jeopardy and now they're like,

898
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: I like my crush words right right.

899
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: So Monday, there was a contestant that again in the

900
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: time honor tradition of just taking liberties with a very

901
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: well known phrase. This was what the board looked like,

902
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: and again apologies for those of you listening to it,

903
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: but it looks like a one, two, three, four, five

904
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: six word phrase.

905
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: And you're like, Okay, I'm starting to maybe figure out

906
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: what the first is blank except for the E at

907
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: the end. Second word is obviously yourself. Yeah, next a

908
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: round of and then the next one a U S E. Ending.

909
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: So this is how this puzzle was solved. I like

910
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: to buy you well you're gonna get three u uk. Okay,

911
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: he's feeling good and he's like, I think I know

912
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: what this is. Okay, well let's hear it. Treat yourself

913
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: a round of sausage. That's not it over to, okay,

914
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: give yourself a round of a plause yourself a round

915
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: of sausage. Like you hear him lose the confidence. I

916
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: think he said no immediately to himself. Is that him?

917
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: That was Seacrest? But I was like, Seacrest does too

918
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: much of a professional to be like, oh, okay, this

919
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: you get. I just love hearing going no. I like

920
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: to solve a problem. Okay, well let's hear it. Treat

921
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: yourself a round of sausage. No to say, treat yourself

922
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: a round of a sausage.

923
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm so furious that Ryan Seacrest is the new host. Also,

924
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: it's just there's gotta be someone out there.

925
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: There's even hates doing this job.

926
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: And he's been doing it for forty years now.

927
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: Is he addicted to hosting? Like this man has just

928
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: fuck you money? But you're still I mean, that's probably

929
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: how What was that phrase from the documentary that Crofton

930
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: Wassonis about was like a thirst like a starvation of

931
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: popularity or something like that, that that that maybe encapsulates

932
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: Seacrest thinking where he's.

933
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Like, dude, if I if I'm not hosting, I'll die

934
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: more night numbers on the board. I was cursed by

935
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: a warlock, I said, the moment I host less than

936
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: five things. Well, that's why I'm here. Fuck, treat yourself

937
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: around of sausage.

938
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: I've been watching Celebrity Jeopardy or sorry, Celebrity Wheel Fortune

939
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: with my granny every week when I visit her. Such

940
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: an angel and yeah, we like I've grown to like

941
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: Pat Sajack because it was his last like stint, and

942
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: I never liked him. I was he always found like,

943
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: I always found him very annoying, and but this time

944
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: I was like, I love him. And now he's gone

945
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: and it's Ryan Seacrest and he just doesn't have He

946
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: doesn't seem human to me. He doesn't actually like interact

947
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: with the subject in front of him really in a

948
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: way that is meaningful to me. But maybe maybe I

949
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: don't know Seacrest as well as I think. Do we

950
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: have seacrest defenders in the house.

951
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Kind of floating through the world in a bubble of

952
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: just like slick, you know, like it's just like everything

953
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: nothing touches him. Maybe by design, but yeah, I don't know.

954
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't. You do not have a Seacrest defender in

955
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: the house. You do have a pat say Jack hater

956
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: in the house. I would recommend if if the feeling

957
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: of missing him ever gets too hard, I would recommend

958
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: just like googling some of his political.

959
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: Oh good, Okay, I didn't know about if.

960
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: You ever miss him too much. I remember getting so

961
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: fucking triggered by seeing him in the behind home plate

962
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: in the World series.

963
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, alright, I didn't know ship like, like.

964
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I think Johnny Carson had good politics, like these are

965
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: just people who, like we didn't have to think about.

966
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why I went Carson. I'm not eighty

967
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: years unlovable. You think Ed McMahon, I think my boy,

968
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Ed McMahon. Oh, you think you thought Bob Hope was

969
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: doing it for the troops, doing it for the imperialism.

970
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: I got one more good Wheel of Fortune mistake, and

971
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: that was a friend of mine whose sister was on

972
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: Wheel of Fortune and the puzzle was up. She tried

973
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: to solve it, and she said salmon and wafers, but

974
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: it was salmon and capers. It's not a great one,

975
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: but it is like it was pretty devastating and we

976
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 3: were all just watching it too, like, wow.

977
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh you know, just having my Sunday salmon and wafers.

978
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, delicious.

979
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I love those cookies, the ones that are like the

980
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: little wafers and then they just filled with salmon in between.

981
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: I just thin slice and you're like, are these strawberry?

982
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: What is the fuck? And that's why they're fun. It's

983
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: like the gum that turns your mouth black and great

984
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: aff I do want too quickly. So we talked yesterday

985
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: about how the Hairs campaign blew through a bunch of money.

986
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: This being the video episode I do. We just have

987
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: to watch this video briefly of the New York Fashion

988
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: Week event that the Hairs campaign spent. Do we know

989
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: how much money they I don't know how much money

990
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: they spent on this, but it's it ain't cheap to

991
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: throw an event during fashion Week, and this based on

992
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: the amount of infrastructure that it wasn't just like hey,

993
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: let's set up some tables at this other event like

994
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: this was like, oh, you're invited to the Kamala HQ

995
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Fashion Week party. Generally, they spent one billion dollars and

996
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: ended up twenty million in debt. I believe where we

997
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: closed out, where'd that money go? We're about to see

998
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: one of the places we talked yesterday there was like

999
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of like paid celebrity appearances. Like not necessarily

1000
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: they weren't like here's a briefcase of cash Oprah claimed

1001
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: that you vote blue, but more like we're going to

1002
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: pay for like to throw a concert or to like

1003
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: have a Oprah like show, like a livestream. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1004
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: basically like doing all the production for these massive media

1005
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: events with huge celebrities. And then they were also throwing

1006
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: sick parties like the one. You're about to see a

1007
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of activations, a lot of activations.

1008
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 2: As we're like saying that these are called activations, Jack, Yeah,

1009
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: and this is a an activation this marketing speak right now.

1010
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, this like tech talker, who I think is

1011
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: from France based on his accent, is just kind of

1012
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: like completely gobsmacked at like whatever this is. And you know,

1013
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: it's just so again, this I think fully underlines how

1014
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: bad the decision making was and how over the top

1015
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: and out of touch.

1016
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: Jen O'Malley Dylan is one of those names that if

1017
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: they are attached in any way to the political cause

1018
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: that you are hoping get some tailwinds behind it, you

1019
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: might want to freak out because that's who ran the

1020
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Hairs campaign. And let's see, let's see how that went party.

1021
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: This dude is so fashionable though, I just have to

1022
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: say that hat is I'm like, man, I never look

1023
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: like I'll never have that kind of sweat.

1024
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: It's like a little page boycotta how dystopian this. So

1025
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: there's a graphic on a dj boot.

1026
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: Abortion rights are hot the loads or whatever. This is

1027
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: a Jenga set where the Jenga pieces. The pieces are

1028
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: labeled national Abortion Band, far right, authoritarianism, cut medicare, no

1029
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: abortion ei in alls okay. And so it's a Djenga

1030
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: tower and each Jenga blode has a different right that

1031
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: might tumble to the ground. Yes, Donald Trump wins.

1032
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: It's precarious our situation, and we don't know if we

1033
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: remove one of these things, how the rest could tumbled.

1034
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: So on the nose and just fucking weird, and you

1035
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: can play. It's actual. It's a real thing. And so

1036
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: we'll go skip ahead a little bit. Oh yeah. Then

1037
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: there's the bar, the themed bar. There's also the cocktail

1038
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Madam President, what is American forty seventh forty seventh president?

1039
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: But those are weak aster botties for Harristies for Harris.

1040
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: Then they're like, oh, then there's this one, the grab

1041
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: them by the dot dot dot like claw grabber game.

1042
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. And it's a bunch of cats in there.

1043
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: It's cats in there.

1044
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: Okay, this is good. Was that I just said?

1045
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: I was just asking if they were cats.

1046
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: In the Yeah, of course, of course it has to be,

1047
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: because it's a it's that we're talking about.

1048
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: I have to say, I.

1049
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: Think that's where I would I would have been parked.

1050
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: I would have been parked there all night. I love

1051
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: claw machines.

1052
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: Turning the whole thing into like a Disneyland attraction. It's like,

1053
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: what what if the Simpsons had a theme park? What

1054
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: if then there's like property of J. D Vance Couch

1055
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: and I will never make another jd Vance Couch And

1056
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: like because all of the hotties what dude, who what?

1057
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: Who the fuck are what? Anyway, It's like one of

1058
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: those things too, where you can tell just by this

1059
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: setup that they are so flippant about the right center

1060
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: at Steak that they clearly didn't have. They the Steaks

1061
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: weren't even clear enough to them.

1062
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: But they're like, what if we memifi your lack of

1063
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: access to healthcare or having agency over your body?

1064
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what if those are games? Because that's how

1065
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: we look at it. I mean that's like what's revealing

1066
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: is that I think it goes into the fact that

1067
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: they think this was the this was the fucking wave. No, no,

1068
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: I do just want to take back. Earlier I was

1069
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: saying that, like the thing that was really off putting

1070
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: about the Democratic Party was that they made it seem

1071
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: like they were playing a game with like our rights

1072
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: and like you said, of like having actual convictions. But

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Speaker 1: after I see the blue state red state plinko game,

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Speaker 1: I have to take that back. They seem real serious

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Speaker 1: about this. Yeah. Yeah, and I get like trying to

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Speaker 1: make things fun or whatever, but again, who are these

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Speaker 1: events for and who are you talking to? Because this

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Speaker 1: is some this is some just echo chamber nonsense, like

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Speaker 1: who's going to that and be like, oh my god, dude,

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Speaker 1: I went to the commum of fashion Week part already,

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Speaker 1: I'm at fashion Yeah. So fucking nukes like ninety nine

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Speaker 1: percent of the electorate. And then then you're like you

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Speaker 1: expect them to be like, oh, then they they grab

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Speaker 1: them by the dot dot dot little kiddie grabber game.

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Speaker 1: I just like, oh my, I'm like I get it now,

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Speaker 1: I get it thanks to this fucking whatever this event cost.

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Speaker 1: And that's just so infuriating. Where this is like, let's

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Speaker 1: just talk to ourselves, and the people that are running

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Speaker 1: the campaign are like, yep, this is where we need

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Speaker 1: to be, this is where the markets to go boom.

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Speaker 1: We are the last ten people to read Malcolm Gladwell's

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Speaker 1: Tipping Point fifteen years after it's been debunked, and so

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Speaker 1: we're actually trying to persuade the taste makers here and

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Speaker 1: you will some maven some connectors, and we think the

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Speaker 1: way to do that is with hotties. For Harris and

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Speaker 1: what was the one abortion writes our hot spinning on

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Speaker 1: an LED screen with like ms paint level like flames

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Speaker 1: underneath it.

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Speaker 2: This was definitely some power point ass like three D graphics,

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Speaker 2: which I get. I know that's the like esthetic you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean for like merch or like other stuff,

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Speaker 2: but not sucks like this actually looks like abortion rights

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Speaker 2: are burning up in flames.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, abortion, and maybe that's what they meant. Did you

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Speaker 1: ever think that about that, Miles? But yeah, they like that.

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Speaker 1: They just have an innate capacity to take everything that

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be representing and like make it seem

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Speaker 1: uncool and alien and inauthentic. Right, these things that are

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Speaker 1: just like very straightforward, like these are things that matter

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Speaker 1: to people, and it's like, well do they matter to you? Now?

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Speaker 1: You know that I've turned them into a spinning graphic

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Speaker 1: over fucking cartoon flames at a party with like people

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Speaker 1: who all look like the bad guys from the Hunger Games, Like, now,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel We're terrible? You've made the Seal

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Speaker 1: terrible about all these things? I found.

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Speaker 2: At first, I wasn't sure if this event was real,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, this surely has seem kind of like

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: a piece of ass propaganda or something. And then like

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Speaker 2: I looked because I saw reporting on it. But then

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Speaker 2: I found like the website of a creative director who

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Speaker 2: worked on this event and it was part of their portfolio,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, yeah, this is real. This is

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Speaker 2: how they described it.

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Speaker 1: Quote in addition to our love slash rules, pop up

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Speaker 1: wall of Weirdos and Hall of Hotti's activations from the

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Speaker 1: previous event. We added in some new creator moments. Creator

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Speaker 1: moments okay, just photo ops for influencers, like a tattoo

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Speaker 1: parlor with temp tattoos. I designed a reading nook with models,

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Speaker 1: reading band books, phone booths where people could call and

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Speaker 1: write to friends to encourage them to register to vote.

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Speaker 1: Games including Your Rights Are Tumbling Project twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Jenga corn hole where the bags are votes for Harris

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Speaker 1: Wall's football toss, Wacko weird policy, grab them by the

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Speaker 1: claw machine, and loads of little moments around the space

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Speaker 1: to encourage voting. We also created a whole slew of

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Speaker 1: new merch for the men, including jumpsuits, hat, sweatshirts, match

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Speaker 1: boxes and more. Yay yay, yay yay.

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Speaker 2: This was everything's on the line, but you still decided

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Speaker 2: to do this ship of like what if we Like

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Speaker 2: the people who did this were like, I want to.

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Speaker 1: Be a fashion week. You know how we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw a campaign there and that's it. That's that,

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Speaker 1: that's it. The only person who thought this was good.

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Speaker 2: Was because they wanted to stunt a fashion week and

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Speaker 2: that's where the fucking money went. So like and then

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Speaker 2: they and they're still asking for people for money.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys notice that the model is reading bell Hooks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's a guy.

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Speaker 1: Guy? Was he shirtless? Shirtless guy? Shirtless shirtless guy? It

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Speaker 1: was a woman? Was it? No? Could you imagine reading

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Speaker 1: like the bellill woman for the guy the male model?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, wow, yeah, can you get that?

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: We we do probably need to see the male model reading. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: the guy can't even He doesn't even look like. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to fucking disparagus me, he doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: he knows how to read. He does have a shirt,

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Speaker 1: he does have a shirt top, and.

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Speaker 2: He's got his little Clark Kent glasses on, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: all about love Bell Hooks.

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Speaker 3: He's even got he's even got his finger on his chin,

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Speaker 3: like hmmm mmmmm.

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Speaker 1: Because he is an actor, he is a professional. He

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Speaker 1: knows how to sell. Yeah, and then you asked the model,

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Speaker 1: all right, so what was that book about? I had

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Speaker 1: my I had a I had my glass eyes. The

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Speaker 1: joke's on you. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to say other than like this is the most illuminating

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Speaker 1: thing about the campaign that I wish we had seen

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Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, Like this actually looks

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Speaker 1: worse than in that Maga fashion show. We were laughing. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, because it costs because

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Speaker 1: so much much and you got way worse. Also, shout

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Speaker 1: out to that the dude who was singing there like

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Speaker 1: it started dming me. He's like, I heard you talk

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Speaker 1: about me on your podcast about my performance. I will

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Speaker 1: see Yeah. I was like, all right, man, good for you. Bro.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely like on some like hey, I'll take the

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Speaker 1: attention and yeah yeah right that looked like that was

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Speaker 1: up there with Fat Joe at the World Series. It's

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Speaker 1: just like uncomfortable performances. Yeah, you're just like, now you

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01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: got this guy reading bellhooks right and people he's seen

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Speaker 1: his comfy Yeah yeah he's not he's not sweating. Yeah, Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: what a pleasure of having you as always on the

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Speaker 1: Daily's eye geist. Where can people find you? Follow you

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: Well, you can listen to American Hysteria anywhere. And uh,

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Speaker 3: I only have Instagram at this point, none of the others,

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Speaker 3: And that is at Americansteria podcast. So come in, come in, like,

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Speaker 3: swipe through our catalog. You'll probably find an episode that

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Speaker 3: interests you.

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Speaker 1: Check it out for sure. It's a great show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Well, hmmm, I've been really liking. I saw every horror

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about horror movies as always, but I

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Speaker 3: saw every horror movie this that was in theaters, this, uh,

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Speaker 3: this good October. Yeah, I'm doing important work. And Smile too.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout out Smile Too as one of the

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Speaker 3: best horn theater, which I never would have thought. No,

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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic, So take my word for it.

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Speaker 1: All right. And then best horror movie of the past

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Speaker 1: like five years? What's Her? Not? Not like definitively but

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Speaker 1: like just first one my opinion. Barbarian Barbarian, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no one broke through those good one miles. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you their working media you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, find me where they got at symbols, Miles of

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Speaker 2: Gray also on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: I think that's miles of Gray dot Besky dot Social

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Speaker 1: I think that work. I don't know it just fine.

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Speaker 1: Find me over there.

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Speaker 2: I did one tweet or one one sky sky Blue

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Speaker 2: one Sky Anyway, I just do appreciate that the feed

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Speaker 2: looks normal, like you actually get stuff from the people

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Speaker 2: you follow and people that might be relevant rather than

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Speaker 2: like suddenly weird hacks on how to whatever.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. You can also find Jack and I on

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Speaker 1: the basketball podcast Myles and Jack on man Boost. You

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Speaker 1: can also find me U dissociating on four to twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance with Sofia Alexander, where we talk about ninety

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Speaker 1: day fiance.

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Speaker 2: So check that show out. I do like a couple

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Speaker 2: of tweets because they are just super dumb and funny.

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Speaker 2: At user Moose on.

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Speaker 1: Twt tweeted white people be like, yeah, just come in

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Speaker 1: through the garage. A coming in through the garage. Come.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Hey it's great, it's different. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love coming into the garage. I'm not gonna learn

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Speaker 1: garage based people. We like. That was just so much.

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Speaker 1: We fana size that all the best companies were made

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Speaker 1: tweeted Fisherman Kendrick Lamar Me and I rider trying to

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Speaker 1: get you you fish, you fish just I appreciated that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, I don't think I've been enjoying much on

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Speaker 1: social media. I did just go sign up for a

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Speaker 1: blue Sky account. Jack ob one oh j C kob

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Speaker 1: the number one. Okay, it's an obi wan reference. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obi wan o D. But I couldn't that that one

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Speaker 1: looks weird and so that's where I might change that later,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see. You can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist, at d daily Zeitgeist, on Instagram. We have

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Speaker 1: a Facebook fan page and a website, daily zeikeist dot com,

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnote where we

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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you

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Speaker 1: think people mind? Yeah, it's by the artist Kendreza q

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Speaker 1: E and d R E s A.

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Speaker 5: And her music's like kind of fusiony R and B

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Speaker 5: sort of throwback kind of energy. It feels very like

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Speaker 5: eighties R and B kind of stuff this and very

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Speaker 5: like breathy vocals.

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Speaker 2: Again, one of those songs where you hear it and

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Speaker 2: it's like not so modern that it roots you in

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Speaker 2: our world now, but maybe takes you back a couple decades,

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Speaker 2: or you can pretend that you're.

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Speaker 1: Not here right now. So this is too much The

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Speaker 1: number two muc H by Kendreza. All right, we will

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Speaker 1: link off to that in the footnote Daily I Guess

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from my

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio ap Apple podcast or

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your favorite shows. That'll do it for

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Speaker 1: us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what's

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Speaker 1: trying to thing, and we will talk to you all.

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