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Speaker 2: He and Sharvarius Ward fighting for the ball, and this

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Speaker 1: It's at one big game this season, that was at.

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Speaker 2: Home against Dallas. Here's McCaffrey, he's gone touchdown forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Purdy steps through floats at his pack and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Playing him gets another. This season is hammered. This season

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Speaker 2: needs to be put in a cab and send home

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Speaker 2: before it says something it can't take back. This season

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Speaker 2: needs to take advil and drink four glasses of water

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Speaker 2: before they go to sleep. Preventative, because when we wake

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Speaker 2: make sense of the NFL. That was pretty good. Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins led the way for the Minnesota Vikings in just

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Speaker 2: a tremendous primetime performance. I don't think that's a thing anymore,

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Speaker 2: going thirty five to forty five for three seventy eight

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Speaker 2: the suddenly vulnerable San Francisco forty nine ers. His counterpart

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Speaker 2: including a moonball over the middle to clinch the second

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Speaker 2: straight defeat for the Niners after their five to zero

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Speaker 2: head start. I am Dan hansis coming to you virtually

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Speaker 2: a room filled with heroes, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Greg,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with Cousins here because you know,

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Speaker 2: like is he good? Is he very good? Is he mediocre? Man?

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is a really good quarterback and he's proving

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Speaker 3: I love that he had this performance in primetime because

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Speaker 3: it shouldn't feel like it it means more because it's

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Speaker 3: at night and it's in an island game, But it does,

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Speaker 3: especially because of the team he was going against. Look,

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Speaker 3: I give the Vikings offensive line a silver medal in

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Speaker 3: this game. I did not think that they could dominate

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Speaker 2: Early in this game.

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Speaker 3: I thought Kirk Cousins held the ball like a half

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Speaker 3: second longer on a lot of these plays that he

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Speaker 3: he held it and he waited till the last second,

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Speaker 3: till his receivers were getting opened down the field when

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Speaker 3: he needed to. At one point in this game, he

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Speaker 3: was eight for eight for one eighty eight on passes

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Speaker 3: over ten yards, and I think that number got even

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Speaker 3: better in the fourth quarter. Wasn't updated. You're absolutely right, Dan,

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Speaker 3: like he was the absolute difference in this game. And

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Speaker 3: if you're just waking up in London or you're watching

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Speaker 3: be like, Wow, the Vikings got out of there with

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Speaker 3: a win. They could have won this game by fifteen points.

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad the result was how it finished Mark

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Speaker 3: because he was the better quarterback and they were the

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Speaker 3: much better team on the day. It actually felt a

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And I have a bit of a Niners fetish, and

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I thought that it was Minnesota's night.

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Speaker 4: We got the best version of Kirk Cousins in primetime.

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Speaker 4: Both teams missing their star wide receiver. You don't have

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Speaker 4: was the opposite. It was Jordan Addison tonight. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I thought he played spectacularly and they got production from

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Speaker 4: I think they've came into the game with eleven rushes

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins played really, I think the best game of

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Speaker 4: the entire season for himself, and like their offensive line,

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Speaker 4: there's no sacks for the Niners. I thought they found

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Speaker 1: And this was the Vikings team.

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Speaker 4: you've lost two games. You're in a strange spot. I'm

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Speaker 4: not really like worried about them, but they're a little

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Speaker 4: but this is not where we thought we'd be with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, you mentioned Cousins was not sacked.

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Speaker 2: He had forty five pass attempts in this game and

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Speaker 2: that's the most attempts for a player this season without

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Speaker 2: He had eleven catches in the game. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: It took one big victory to kind of change our

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Speaker 2: On the San Francisco side of things, you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: another one of those years where he's just banged up

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Speaker 3: Well, I think this was very similar to last week

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Speaker 2: He obviously didn't. Tonight.

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Speaker 4: Niners defense that's been dominant for long stretches for a

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Speaker 3: It was one of the best offensive performances by any

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Speaker 2: They only had eight drives.

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Speaker 3: Dan they put up four hundred and was it four

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Speaker 4: I as a party, I like, I really love what

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Speaker 4: Like if they're five and two the Niners, I would

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Speaker 4: not be surprised that they're ten and four when you

435
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Speaker 4: double the record, not be surprised that the Vikings, who

436
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Speaker 4: are three and four are six and eight.

437
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Speaker 1: Like it's it's one night in the season.

438
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Speaker 4: It was a return to normalcy in terms of like

439
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: the Vikings are better than the record, I think a

440
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Speaker 4: little bit like especially an offense, they've been productive, but

441
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Speaker 4: like I'm not, I just I refuse to It was.

442
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Speaker 3: If nothing else happens this season, he had this night.

443
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Speaker 3: This was a nice nights.

444
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Speaker 2: Uh, And now you're trying to take the wind out

445
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Speaker 2: of their sales in this segment.

446
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Speaker 4: Now, No, not, don't try to straw man me into

447
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Speaker 4: some corner like I'm happy for that.

448
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Speaker 2: Not, I'm just saying what you're saying. I'm just it's more.

449
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Speaker 4: Like I'm not going to panic about brock Party. To

450
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Speaker 4: your point, this is what your argument was. I'm not

451
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Speaker 4: talking about fourteen regional like local shows that you are

452
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Speaker 4: talking about like that.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be ten and four and be fine at

454
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Speaker 1: some point.

455
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Speaker 2: So like, cool, nobody. I don't think anybody's disagreeing with that.

456
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Speaker 2: I don't think I don't see a tailspin for the

457
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Speaker 2: Niners here, right, Although they haven't lost two games in

458
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Speaker 2: a row the Niners in like a couple of years,

459
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Speaker 2: and they have.

460
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Speaker 1: It's been strange, like ten days. It's been a weird

461
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Speaker 1: ten days.

462
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Speaker 2: But what are they learn from it? They got the

463
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Speaker 2: Bengals next week. That's they got one a resurgent Bengals

464
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: team next week at home. That that's gonna be a

465
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Speaker 2: lot of fun. And last thing is to ties it

466
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Speaker 2: all together. Kyle Shanahan, Kirk Cousins is like his white whale, right,

467
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Speaker 2: you know, Kirk Cousins is heading towards free agency. I

468
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Speaker 2: don't know that feels like six years too late, but

469
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Speaker 2: just saying, and Brock Perdy probably is there for you know,

470
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Speaker 2: a long time. I think Kyle Shannon loves him. I'm

471
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Speaker 2: just saying Kirk Cousins is headed toward free agency. I'll

472
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Speaker 2: never forget that.

473
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Speaker 3: It's like a Mike Silver report on NFL dot com

474
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Speaker 3: how he was like desperately trying to get Kirk Cousins.

475
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Speaker 2: I forget. I think it was twenty seventeen. You could

476
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Speaker 2: look it up.

477
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Speaker 3: We're like doing podcasts and writing newsers and you know

478
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Speaker 3: sometimes when it was a hot newser you'd even and

479
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Speaker 3: write an analysis off the news.

480
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Speaker 2: There we're double news aer in it.

481
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Speaker 4: People wanted Mike Lennon for a couple of years too.

482
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Speaker 4: I mean, people are strange.

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Speaker 2: Mark. Can you say that it's possible also that the

484
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Speaker 2: Vikings are eight and six after fourteen games?

485
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Speaker 1: I do think it is.

486
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Speaker 4: I'm not that was more of a like a not

487
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Speaker 4: panic about the Niners take than me trying to like

488
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Speaker 4: cut Vikings fans off of the knees.

489
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Speaker 1: They're wicked sensitive. I get it, like I wish well

490
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Speaker 1: for them.

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Speaker 3: I think it was more just like it was a

492
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Speaker 3: nice night in the Kirk cousin's career arc.

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Speaker 2: It was just yes for him to beat it the

494
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Speaker 2: star they're playing better show. Yeah, the difference between the

495
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Speaker 2: thirteen and four vikings and this three and fourteen. They

496
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Speaker 2: can get hot in that division. They can get hot.

497
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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll do

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Speaker 2: some news. All right, welcome back. Yes, as we mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: we had Mike Garfolo on the program from Chris Wesling

500
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Speaker 2: podcast studio earlier today in Englewood and where Greg is

501
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Speaker 2: sitting right now as a matter of fact, and we

502
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Speaker 2: did our trade deadline primer, digging into the potential storylines

503
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Speaker 2: as we look ahead to next Tuesday's October thirty first

504
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Speaker 2: deadline to acquire a team, acquire players some other teams.

505
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Speaker 2: So make sure you check that out also. And this

506
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Speaker 2: is I mean, jeez, it's back. I mean check your socials.

507
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: This guy gets it with Mark Sessler and Mark, this

508
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: guy gets it the season premiere. And this is very

509
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Speaker 2: in line with how you know, big time TV shows

510
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Speaker 2: operate through the years and you come back with your premiere.

511
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Speaker 2: You're looking to do a big number with the Nielsen's

512
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Speaker 2: and like this idea that you ran with was so

513
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Speaker 2: hot that we could couldn't even reference really what it

514
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Speaker 2: was exactly in our social media teas. The people will

515
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Speaker 2: have to hit it up on the audio podcast to

516
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Speaker 2: find out.

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Speaker 1: I think they will, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think when you i'd take the model that I

519
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Speaker 4: know of a couple shows that have a big sort

520
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Speaker 4: of launch and announcement and say we're here to stay,

521
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Speaker 4: you know, and they put out one episode a year,

522
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Speaker 4: and like I kind of learned from that. We did

523
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Speaker 4: one last year, We've got one this year. But I

524
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Speaker 4: waited this long. I didn't want to rush.

525
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to.

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Speaker 4: Be superfluous like the topic I found to be honest,

527
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Speaker 4: because I think no one of you know, importance higher

528
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Speaker 4: up in the companies listening to this. We kind of

529
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Speaker 4: like snuck it by the NFL. We snuck it by

530
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Speaker 4: the company because it's a topic that's a little too hot.

531
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Speaker 4: You couldn't put an NFL dot Com story out there

532
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Speaker 4: about it the way you'd want to. You've got to

533
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Speaker 4: find a way to, you know, shove it in there.

534
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Speaker 4: And that's what we did. This topic. What we've done,

535
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 4: I think people will see exactly what we're talking about.

536
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Speaker 4: It is hot to the touch, it's electric and I

537
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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be succinnct in the sense that the

538
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: episode is about an hour, like a minute and forty

539
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: one seconds long. But why waste words, It's time to

540
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Speaker 4: be succinct.

541
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Speaker 3: That explanation was almost as long as the actual episode.

542
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Speaker 2: It was longer than the episode.

543
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Speaker 3: It reminds me of you know, when a big feature

544
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Speaker 3: drops and you're like in, you in the art and

545
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 3: the authors like I have been working on this feature

546
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: for seventeen months. You've been working on this. This guy

547
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Speaker 3: gets it for twelve months.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's my the Killer Moon. I think you

549
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Speaker 1: know if you.

550
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Speaker 2: If you saw the write up in the Hollywood Reporter,

551
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: Mark was referred to as a more carnally furious, morally safer.

552
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: So I mean, if that doesn't get you plugged in,

553
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Uh And finally, before

554
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: we get to the news, NFL Plus Game of the

555
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: Week is back. We absolutely just killed it with our breakdown.

556
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: I thought of Brown's Cults thirty nine to thirty eight.

557
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Uh so check that out for some deep discourse.

558
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Speaker 4: We might have included some elements of the game that

559
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: we probably should have included in the Sunday Night recaps,

560
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Speaker 4: so like you know, we find a way to match

561
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Speaker 4: it up in the end.

562
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: So what does that mean? What do you mean?

563
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm a journalist and I like what.

564
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Speaker 4: I don't need to get into it on this show,

565
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: but like, there there are elements of that game that

566
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: maybe if you know, there's been a little more robust

567
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Speaker 4: Uh are you some.

568
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: Colts fans are angry at the sas dog about it.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't too well with that, so they can stick it.

570
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Speaker 2: So if those first of all kickrocks, I mean we

571
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Speaker 2: do literally a trillion shows and we don't all hit

572
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Speaker 2: home runs every single time.

573
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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: If you were looking for some deep discourse on the

575
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Speaker 2: end of that game. As an addendum, check out the

576
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Speaker 2: NFL Plus breakdown of that game. All right, now, let's

577
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Speaker 2: get into the news bringing kick Rocks back.

578
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Speaker 1: Yah, kick Rocks.

579
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's get into it starting with a trade.

580
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: And it actually is something that came down when we

581
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Speaker 2: were doing our trade deadline primer with Mike Garrafolo. The

582
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: Eagles added some reinforcements to their banked up secondary. They

583
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Speaker 2: get Kevin Byard in a trade with the Tennessee Titans

584
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Speaker 2: on Monday. The Eagles sent back Tel Edmunds plus two

585
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: draft picks to the Titans. It's a homecoming for Bayard,

586
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Speaker 2: who was born in Philly named after Brian Dawkins. How

587
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: cool is that? And now he joins a new team.

588
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: Is anything else you wanted to add there, either of

589
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: you boys?

590
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Speaker 3: Well, no, just I think it speaks to where they

591
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: know their week on their team and it could work

592
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: out really well.

593
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: It might not.

594
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Speaker 3: Like he's a little older that you know, he's an

595
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: aging player. He might be on this team next year.

596
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: It's more about this season. He's a player I always

597
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: remember first became famous because Deon Sanders didn't know his

598
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: name as he was headed towards an All Pro season,

599
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: and he was upset about that and Dion took offense.

600
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Speaker 3: And now he's gonna be much more in the spotlight.

601
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: And they they needed it, Like I think they know

602
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: they are not right in the secondary. But I don't

603
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: think it's like some sort of game changing move. It's

604
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: just one that makes me think, Man, the Titans might

605
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: be selling and Derek Henry might be somewhere else, and

606
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Speaker 3: that's gonna give us some fun stuff to talk about

607
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Speaker 3: in the next week.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I'd add is that there are like

609
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Speaker 4: I've seen Titans fans out on X and other platforms

610
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Speaker 4: a little annoyed that they've become this sort of you know,

611
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Speaker 4: pipeline to recreate the Eagles and position groups where they're

612
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: a struggling you need a wide receiver. Let us just

613
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Speaker 4: sell you Aj Brown and have our head coach march

614
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: out of the draft room. Oh you need a safety.

615
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: Oh you're struggling, you might be a little vulnerable. Just

616
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: give you Kevin Bayer, no problem. It's like, I don't know.

617
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Speaker 4: At some point, it's like, when do we stop just

618
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: feeding force feeding and pink ponying the Philadelphi Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Forgot about ping pony.

620
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Speaker 3: Aj Brown has more receiving yards than the entire Titans

621
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Speaker 3: wide receivers group.

622
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Speaker 2: By the way, Woolf and who would know more about

623
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: pink Pony, the operation connected to the Patriots during their

624
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: glory years than Mike Rabel, head coach of the Titans.

625
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: So tough Stitch Justin Fields in injury news unlikely to

626
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: be back in the lineup in Week eight against the Chargers.

627
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: That from head coach Matt Ibrafluss, who said he is

628
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: doubtful doubtful to play, so that means another start for

629
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Speaker 2: rookie Tyson Beagent, who had some big moments and flashed

630
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: some really impressive ink along his breastplate and when he

631
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: had his shirt off during game ball. And also Eric

632
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: Rabbits producer who is inked up so hardcore that he

633
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: will travel like to San Diego for instance, to go

634
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: to tattoo festivals and competitions. That's neither here nor there,

635
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: but Beijent has it on his back as well. So

636
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Speaker 2: I just I'm just into Bigent. He's an interesting guy

637
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: and he gets another start.

638
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if Beijen beats the Chargers, that's a that's a

639
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: fascinating draft. Picked of a game between two two win

640
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: teams this week just because there's a lot of chaos possible.

641
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: If the Bears win that game, I'm interested their Their

642
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: offense will look completely different with them, and it certainly

643
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: wasn't bad.

644
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Speaker 4: It's also happening on Sunday night. Like if you're Tyson Beigent, like,

645
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, you were anonymous, You were anonymous two

646
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: weeks ago, and now you're gonna be playing on Sunday

647
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: night football Chicago Bears Chargers.

648
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Speaker 1: This is just really we'll preview it during the week.

649
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Speaker 3: But man, Brandon Staley, I would rat if I was

650
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: Brandon Staley, I do Fason beige It is the last

651
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: guy I want to be facing on Sunday Night Football.

652
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: It's potential to not make it to week nine for

653
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Speaker 3: Brandon Staley.

654
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: What an indictment of the entire Brandon Staley enterprise that

655
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: he's shaking his boots because Beigeent's getting another start. But

656
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: it's a weird situation there. In other injury news, the

657
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: NFL is asking injury report compliance questions to the Atlanta

658
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: Falcons about when they knew rookie running back Bejon Rockrobinson

659
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: was not physically well and why it wasn't reported per

660
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: league policy. Adam Schefter reported on Monday, this is standard

661
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: practice when a player day of game suddenly is not available.

662
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: There are a lot of reasons why it's very important

663
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: that teams comply with the injury things. In terms of

664
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: things that happen in the desert, it's a very serious thing.

665
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean, as you know from basically forty eight percent

666
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: of commercials connected to the NFL now. So, the Falcons

667
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: declined comment Monday and evening from I covered that game

668
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: for the podcast yesterday, and it like the stench was

669
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: in the air, just how weird it all smelled, not

670
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: because it's so strange that a player would wake up

671
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: and I guess was a reported as headaches after the fact.

672
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was all the way it was

673
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: all reported, the way that he was in the he

674
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: was active and dressed and on the field for some

675
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: snaps and then getting a carry in the final minute.

676
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: Everything about it were just I mean, it had Lady

677
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: Smith's fingerprints all over it for starters, but you know whatever.

678
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he also like I mean, he was not

679
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: feeling well on Saturday, so it was the day before.

680
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: And I think that we all are if you're in

681
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: a fantasy league.

682
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: Everyone had the group thread where one of the friends

683
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 4: who had Jon Robinson is, you know, writing the text

684
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 4: where he's annoyed that the Falcons did this. He's probably

685
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: annoyed with the Falcons in general, but this happened. But

686
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: then on top of it, like it made me think

687
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: a little bit back to the like four billion like

688
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: NFL dot com posts written about Percy Harvin with migraines,

689
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, just like yesterday when like I

690
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: wonder if this was like, I don't know what it was.

691
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it was just a headache, but like a

692
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: migraine kind of thing could come and go. You might

693
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: be better the next day. But I don't know if

694
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: you're the Falcons, but that.

695
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: If he would have woken up with migraines, Mark and

696
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: they come on in the telecast and after he doesn't

697
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: play in the first half, we'd come out at halftime

698
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 2: and Christina Pink does that interview and the head coach says, yeah,

699
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: he woke up, he had some head issues, he had

700
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: some migrants. No one does batteran an eyelash because the

701
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: league takes it very seriously brain trauma and things of

702
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: that nature. And yet the wording around it was just odd.

703
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: He just wasn't feeling like himself or wasn't feeling great. Odd.

704
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: The whole season over there has been odd, and yet

705
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: the Falcons are in first place, also in first place

706
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: of the Kansas City Chiefs, but they will be it

707
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: without one of their most important defenders, Nick Bolton, the linebacker.

708
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: He had a wrist injury. This was kind of a

709
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: harrowing report from the CBS telecast. I think Wolfson reported

710
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: that he was screaming in pain as he headed back

711
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: to the locker room. And that's typically what happens to

712
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: people when they dislocate their god wrist and he needs

713
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: surgery and it's going to cost them approximately two months

714
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: according to Pell Raiser, And we mentioned that briefly on

715
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: the Trade Deadline show as well, because in an underhanded way,

716
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Pallisero snowed under the old rap sheet and you know,

717
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: rap sheet won't forget.

718
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: He won't and I won't forget Brett Veitch, their general manager,

719
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: for signing one of my favorite off ball linebackers that

720
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: I always thought could do a little bit everything, Drew

721
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Chank will and when he's come in for Bolton this

722
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: year has really looked great. So I think they're fine

723
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: with Tranquil and Gay, but it's in Willie Gays the

724
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: other one, but Bolton's was playing at a Pro Bowl level,

725
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: so it's a big time disappointment for them.

726
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: In other injury news, the Bills are losing a big

727
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: part of their offense. Dawson Knox, their tight end, also

728
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: had a risk issue that required surgery. He's been dealing

729
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: with that for a couple of weeks and they decided

730
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: to shut him down. Get the surgery done, they don't

731
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: have a timeline on when he'll be back. He played

732
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: sixty three percent of their snaps on Sunday. Dalton Kincaid,

733
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: their rookie tight end, saw more work in that game,

734
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: and you imagine he will continue to see more work

735
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: after that.

736
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: And I on the Bills during the trade deadline thing,

737
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: because like remember we talked this whole offseason, it's like, oh,

738
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: who's gonna step up for being a weapon? Oh, they're

739
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: going to do the two tight end thing, and they did.

740
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: They were playing two tight ends more than anyone in

741
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: the league until this week against the Patriots when they

742
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: started to back off it. And it's just like they

743
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: where's the third receiver? Where's even the second receiver? Gabe

744
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: Davis comes and goes. He's been fine, but they feel

745
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: like a team, especially after this injury. I think that

746
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: might try to make make a move.

747
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: That really showed up in the Patriots game. I think

748
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 4: we mentioned that on Sunday night, was just like, where

749
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: was the other weapon that they could have used when

750
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: it's not stuff on digs? And like I know with

751
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: Kinkaid and Knox, they were doing what you know, not

752
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: the twelve personnel, but the eleven and a half personnel

753
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: where they they're using two tight ends all the time,

754
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: and like I think Kinkaid maybe a little bit less

755
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: as a blocker, but if anything, it might the one

756
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: like blessing disguise is if you get Kinkaid in there,

757
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: like one hundred percent of the time, I think he

758
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: is that weapon, and like he's sort of shown that

759
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: and like maybe they come out of it with him growing.

760
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Bill's got problems. Keep an eye on the Bills here.

761
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Broncos safety Kareem Jackson suspended four games for multiple violations

762
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: of unnecessary roughness. Well, if the suspension comes after Jackson

763
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: was disqualified from Sunday's win over Green Bay after delivering

764
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: a hit to Packers tight end Luke Musgrave, who was

765
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: deemed a defenseless receiver. He was flagged for a personal

766
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: foul penalty in addition to his disqualification from the game,

767
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: and you do the math. I'm not sure what his

768
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: salary is Kream Jackson, but essentially a four game suspension

769
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: that's without pay, so whatever is game day check times

770
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: for that is a huge penalty and you take him

771
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: off the field for essentially a quarter of the season,

772
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: trying to send the message to Jackson and others, just

773
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: like with the gambling policy, Hey, don't do this because

774
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: we're gonna come for you and it's gonna hurt in

775
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: the wallet as well as your reputation.

776
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: One of West's favorite players because he's a throwback, like

777
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: a Bob Sanders type. I mean, he loves, he loves

778
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: hitting guys in the head. Just keeps keeps happening over over.

779
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: I thought he might get traded, but that's not gonna

780
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: happen now.

781
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 4: I know you're concerned about his reputee that his reputation

782
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: is going to take a huge hit.

783
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, could not care less. But I do like that

784
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: West liked him. But I also like being a like

785
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: I'm a throwback, I'm a hard nosed guy. I'm gonna

786
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: knock this guy's head off. He won't know where he

787
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: is after the game, Like, we don't do that anymore.

788
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: So you gotta you gotta adjust, gottadjust. I'm sure he

789
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: might now that he's lost, I don't know, like two

790
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: million dollars or whatever. It's gonna be finally in the news.

791
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Give me that iconic Mark Robudeo theme, Little Hard Knocks

792
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: all right, we're coming off the New York Jets Hard

793
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Knocks season this summer, but unless you've been under a rock,

794
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: you should know that they've been doing a in season

795
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: version for three years now, and this is a pretty

796
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: good get I thought for the Hard Knocks and HBO team,

797
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins will be the featured in

798
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: season team this season, the team and HBO and NFL

799
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: Films announced in a joint statement. Last year we tracked

800
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. I could not have cared less about that

801
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: team or season, so I did not watch that. The

802
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: previous year was what Colts Colts Colts, and I guess

803
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: there was some palace intrigue because they collapse horrendously down

804
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the stretch. But the Dolphins are a bonafide AFC contender

805
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: that have all this kind of buzz around them, and

806
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: crucially Mike McDaniel, who is a hugely compelling figure. So

807
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: this one might be one that I'm checking out.

808
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: I feel like these shows depend on the coaches so

809
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: much and Mike McDaniel being the leader of this team

810
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: and this team, and we'll see where they go. They

811
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: got the Patriots this week, and who knows what their

812
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: story will be, but they feel like the one of

813
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: the freshest, most interesting stories of this season. So for

814
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks to have the Jets in training camp and

815
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: then the Dolphins, now nice season for Hard Knocks. I

816
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: will be watching this because of my spiritual brother Mike McDaniel.

817
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an invisible string mark that ties Mike McDaniel

818
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: to Greg Rosenthal. And if anybody can unlock Greg, which

819
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: we certainly have not been able to do in the

820
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: last twelve years or so, it would be McDaniel. So

821
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: in general, I would love I mean, I would love

822
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: for us to talk to Mike McDaniel and maybe that's

823
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: what that we could work on because I think we're

824
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: all all of us are kind of super into the personality.

825
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: And then it's this guy that's an innovator in the league,

826
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: and I feel like he would be I feel like

827
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: he'd be good on the show. I think if we

828
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: could get him on the program, that would be fun.

829
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: So maybe watching this show will give us some good background.

830
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: If we can make that happen.

831
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: He would be great on the show.

832
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how, and Greg, I understand where you're

833
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 4: coming from, Like, I don't know how you co opted

834
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel. I think that there's a fascination.

835
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: This is my theory. Actually, yeah, I have to say,

836
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: like I just the way kind of the mannerisms and

837
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: the some it's like, you can't tell is he being

838
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: purposely obtuse but he's obviously there's some deep thinking going on.

839
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: But why is he trying to annoy me right now?

840
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. There's a lot of layers

841
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: to McDaniel and Greg that I just see parallels. I know.

842
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: I think, like, like Greg, do you call it like

843
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: a fresh choice or whatever? Like I mean, the last

844
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: two years of the show, it was like, first of all,

845
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: we have football happening like literally every second of every day,

846
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: whether it's news or games, and it's like it's just this,

847
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 4: but this for this choice, I don't know how they can't.

848
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 4: Maybe they've updated how they decide what team to pick,

849
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: and maybe it's a little bit let's find out where

850
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: we are a couple weeks into this season, but.

851
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Like, I'll watch this. I'm interested in this.

852
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: If if you pick twenty five other teams hard out,

853
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: don't care.

854
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: Like I'll survive without it. I'll watch this.

855
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: And I think Mike McDaniel is an Absolutely, it's for

856
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: a reason why it's.

857
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: The it's the bi annual Mark Sessler caveat filled Hard

858
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Knocks endorsement.

859
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: No, but you know, but listen. But like that's because

860
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: they made the right choice.

861
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: Like there was a period where like we got either

862
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 4: the Rams or the Chargers on like the summer and

863
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: the autumn version and all this other business.

864
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: So they live or die a show or whatever it's called.

865
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: Like all in like it's just like I don't need

866
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: to see anymore, like Jeff Fisher Rams not all or.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, this this.

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Speaker 1: This, I'm in for this, I'm info probably in case

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Speaker 1: you got two episodes.

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Speaker 2: We're curious. The invisible strain connects Greg to McDaniel. My

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Speaker 2: invisible string connects to Jim Tomsula, and Mark's invisible string

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Speaker 2: connects to Frank r. So there, that's that's everything for you.

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Speaker 1: It's not accurate.

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Speaker 3: Mark connects to Kate Winslet.

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Speaker 1: That is accurate.

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Speaker 2: He wishes all right, Uh that's it. Okay, So uh again,

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Speaker 2: this guy gets it lands in your feed on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: so do not miss that because it's trenchant and like

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Speaker 2: I said, the Hollywood Reporter called Mark a more carnally furious,

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Speaker 2: morally safer. So if that doesn't get you to tune it,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what will. Uh. And we'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Wednesday with Colleen Wolf in a very very

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Speaker 2: special holiday episode in a way, so it is kind

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Speaker 2: of a holiday in our show for this particular episode.

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Speaker 2: Until then, Heat the Call.