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Speaker 1: To walk second Students Turing Snow pushas t Minor Snow.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Oh oh, what is this show we

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Speaker 2: have here?

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Speaker 3: It's a new intro. Friday is upon us. You know,

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Speaker 3: last year we did a show called The tues Cruise

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Speaker 3: conveniently on a Tuesday today, though, Dan, As we've been

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Speaker 3: teasing all throughout the long, cold, dark off season. That

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Speaker 3: was amid the coronavirus in this pandemic and uncertainty. We

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Speaker 3: always had this in the back of.

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Speaker 1: Our minds, Dan, Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: What about a space themed college football show each and

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Speaker 3: every week? How does that work for you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's been working for me since we

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Speaker 1: discussed it in probably January, we think. So plotting this

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Speaker 1: out for a while, I actually remember hitching you on

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Speaker 1: a transition from twos Cruise to whatever. I mean we're

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Speaker 1: calling it UFO. But I think what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: is change with the U stands for because we didn't

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Speaker 1: come up with anything that we really loved.

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Speaker 3: What does the season Friday.

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Speaker 1: Or Football Friday? I think Friday, Yeah, because we have

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Speaker 1: the twos, so let's also go with the Friday Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Friday Orbit yeah is where we're going with the

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Speaker 3: F and the oh. It is, of course Week two,

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Speaker 3: but week one really for the Power five teams that

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Speaker 3: are going to be playing this weekend. So what is

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Speaker 3: the you gonna stand for this week?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say underway. I'm going to say underway because

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Speaker 1: it's the only real chance. Well, I guess maybe before

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Speaker 1: the SEC and Big twelve teams play conference games. But

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say right now, because the season is

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Speaker 1: underway and is continuing to get underway. It feels like

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Speaker 1: the right move to say it's the underway Friday Orbit

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Speaker 1: because it's also the start of the UFO. Right, I

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Speaker 1: think that's good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a better space or cosmic

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Speaker 3: themed words starting with a you that doesn't need to

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Speaker 3: be that we could do right. It doesn't matter because

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Speaker 3: it's our show. We can do whatever we want. We're

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Speaker 3: excited to have our our bawlers here as we get

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Speaker 3: ready for this new season, and again, whatever format it

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Speaker 2: Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you are listening to this now, this

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Speaker 1: UFO show. The newsletter of intent is in the mailboxes

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Speaker 1: of people who have already subscribed. And it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: fun one, I think, right it's I got some updates

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Speaker 3: I know a guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a.

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Speaker 3: Sneak pink and oh yeah, it's good. It's not bad,

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Speaker 3: it's good.

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Speaker 1: I like to hear that. Also I'm very excited to

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Speaker 1: Friday Orbit at some point this year. I don't know

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Speaker 1: when it's going to be, but that's in the Quiver's

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Speaker 1: a vocabulary. Unkempt is wonderful. Yeah, So we've got a

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Speaker 1: UFO show each week is going to be a very

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Speaker 1: perhaps sip in some libations time. My working title for

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Speaker 1: that is the Bruine, but it's not finalized. It's not finalized.

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Speaker 1: So I really wanted to focus and drill down today

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Speaker 1: like the movie Armaged and drilling on a celestial body.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know they you know that, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Why did JJ Abrams lie to us?

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Speaker 3: It's an operative question. Yeah. By the way, the reason

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Speaker 3: this whole thing. Two's cruse just rhymed. This is more

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Speaker 3: some just weird sp themed things on you. There will

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Speaker 3: five questions that we're gonna ask you, just to we

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Speaker 3: out there on outer space as we're going on this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say good transition type because it's

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Speaker 1: No, no, it does not. So you have a name

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Speaker 3: This is the group of three Voyager Dan. This is

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Speaker 3: in honor of the famed NASA Voyager one and two

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Speaker 3: missions that are currently still in operation to some extent

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Speaker 3: exploring interstellar space. So they have left the Solar system, right,

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Speaker 3: Now as we talk about teams in the Group of three,

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy that you did not make a I

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Speaker 3: Here we are. So when we look around the group

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Speaker 3: at you? You know, I'll throw a few out there

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Speaker 3: Deeric King won't be there this year either. But SMU

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've seen it from Navy, you know,

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Speaker 3: When you look at a team like a Cincinnati, I

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Speaker 3: think they're my answer here. By the way, if you

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Speaker 3: it out there, we're going to play the sound.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to communicate it. But okay, that's communicating

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Speaker 3: with the voyager satellite. Yeah, not a lot of people

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Speaker 3: know I'm just making this up.

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Speaker 1: No, no, No, that's good, Tyle. Let's sell it.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the signal. HM, we can hear it.

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Speaker 3: But Cincinnati to me is very intriguing because they bring

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Speaker 3: very good. And I remember previewing some Cincinnati games last year,

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Speaker 3: Luke Fickle's building something there might not be the most exciting,

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Speaker 3: but we know the defense is going to be rock solid.

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Speaker 1: They were supposed to play in Nebraska this season, and

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Speaker 1: I would go as far as saying this is abo tie.

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Speaker 3: Tulane is an interesting name as well, for sure. Willi

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Speaker 1: New quarterback, interesting talent on offense, really intriguing front, and

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Speaker 3: The one wild card for me, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, they're going to be maybe the most entertaining

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Speaker 1: Houston's interesting to me because of Dana Holgerson's plan to

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for it because there are what six seven

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Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I would say non zero and usually it's zero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying it's a great chance, but I'm saying,

434
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Speaker 3: in a ready odd year, what will be odder than

435
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Speaker 3: a team like Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

437
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: Well, the good news for probably the team with the

438
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Speaker 1: best shot in UCF, just because they have built thanks

439
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Speaker 1: to the win over Auburn and what was it the

440
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Speaker 1: Peach Bowl a couple of years ago. They have the

441
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Speaker 1: cachet built, right, they have the cachet. They've said, okay,

442
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Speaker 1: we've gone toe to toe with a top level SEC

443
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: team and beating them on a neutral field. Now, I know,

444
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Speaker 1: obviously everybody's going to say to defend Auburn when they

445
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: were motivated whatever but still we're talking about even they

446
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: held strong against LSU until LSU pulled away near the

447
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: end of the game in their bowl game against the Tigers.

448
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Speaker 1: But the thing is with UCF is they also get

449
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Speaker 1: Georgia ten early. They get a Power five team, a

450
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Speaker 1: great one, No, sir or madam, absolutely not. But they

451
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: do have an opportunity if UCF goes out and beats

452
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech thirty eight to three, and say, I don't

453
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: know a pretty good ACC team. A Louisville beats Georgia

454
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Speaker 1: Tech twenty eight to seventeen. At least that's a data

455
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Speaker 1: point that becomes a little bit interesting if we're evaluating

456
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Speaker 1: UCF on the national level, a little bit interesting.

457
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Speaker 3: It's another data point. And I think that's a fair yeah,

458
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Speaker 3: a fair statement.

459
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Speaker 1: We don't have much this year, No, we don't do,

460
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Speaker 1: not have much.

461
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Speaker 3: We got to take what we can get.

462
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Speaker 1: But it's something.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who is your answer then? Who separates themselves from

464
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Speaker 3: that field?

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Speaker 1: It's the teams with the quarterbacks I trust, and so

466
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Speaker 1: it's basically Memphis and UCF. Okay, Neil and Gabriel healthy

467
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: and that is best. And I trust Brady White, I do,

468
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: but I at least need an okay defense, and I

469
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Speaker 1: think I trust Memphis defense more than SMU's defense. So

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Speaker 1: with look, I like SMU because they returned Sunny Dike's

471
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Speaker 1: and I doubt you know, I don't love the Memphis schedule,

472
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Speaker 1: and I don't love having a new head coach, but

473
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Speaker 1: I just I've seen Memphis win some squeaker shootouts and

474
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Speaker 1: play pretty well against Penn State last year, whereas I'm

475
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Speaker 1: just not there with SMU.

476
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Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to go Cincinnati. Cincinnati was my

477
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Speaker 3: initial reaas like Cincinnati a lot. I like them a lot.

478
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Speaker 3: I like their coach, Luke Fickle, I like their defense.

479
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Speaker 3: Anytime you bring ten guys back, I'm one of the

480
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Speaker 3: things I'm very interested in. And I don't know if

481
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Speaker 3: we talked about this much on the preview, but my

482
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Speaker 3: guess is that one of the observations after the twenty

483
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Speaker 3: twenty year is going to be the weird little odd

484
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Speaker 3: roster tweaks or schemes or just something logistical that served

485
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Speaker 3: as a competitive advantage for some programs. I think it

486
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: goes without saying that a team like a note, like

487
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Speaker 3: a Notre Dame, let's sew them out there. Notre Dame

488
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: brings a lot back not only a quarterback with them book,

489
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Speaker 3: but along the lines, both lines. They're going to win

490
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Speaker 3: the trenches against most of the teams that they play,

491
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Speaker 3: with the exception of Clemson probably, But having that veteran

492
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Speaker 3: leadership at such a fundamental level in your starting roster,

493
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Speaker 3: I think is imperative. It's always imperative, but I think now,

494
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Speaker 3: given state of affairs, it's even going to have greater effect.

495
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Speaker 3: What other things now more than what other things are

496
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Speaker 3: going to rise to that level. What other things Wi'll

497
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Speaker 3: be talking about come January or come February, I don't

498
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Speaker 3: know the answer to that. I do think though, that

499
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: experience for right now, given what we know, is going

500
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Speaker 3: to be huge. It's going to have an outsized impact,

501
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: especially when you've got a unit of ten guys that

502
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Speaker 3: have already played together on defense the way these guys

503
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Speaker 3: for Cincinnati have. So from my mind, I think that

504
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: goes a much much longer way than it would even

505
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Speaker 3: under normal circumstances.

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Speaker 1: I think starting the season well is going to be

507
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Speaker 1: even more important because if a team starts one in three,

508
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Speaker 1: one and four, given the sort of unusual circumstances and

509
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: shortened schedule, it could be kind of easy to see

510
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: teams and players letting up and saying, what are we doing?

511
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: Why are we even playing? Like that kind of thing

512
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me come late October. You know,

513
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Speaker 1: if a team starts poorly, I think the ability to

514
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: bounce back becomes very different. This year, I think experience

515
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: is quite important. And culture, I mean it's one of

516
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: those terms that we use that's vague, but just how

517
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: well a job the coaching staff has done in terms

518
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Speaker 1: of getting players to buy into systems and to buy

519
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: into each other given the extraordinary or extraordinarily strange circumstances

520
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: of the season. So that's where a team like Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: with you know, Luke Fickle has been there. He has

522
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: built up depth. He's recruited extremely well, by the way,

523
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Speaker 1: with a team like Cincinnati, maybe more than most of

524
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Speaker 1: the other teams we're talking about, because as you remember,

525
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati was in the Big East. They were a power

526
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Speaker 1: quote power six team, and now they're not, even though

527
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Speaker 1: the American is essentially a power six if there is

528
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Speaker 1: going to be a power six, and so Cincinnati is

529
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Speaker 1: one of the big losers. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: if you're a high level three star, mid level three

531
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Speaker 1: star who's promising and gets like low level big ten

532
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Speaker 1: attention in a world in which you can in a

533
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Speaker 1: world in a world in which you can get attention

534
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Speaker 1: pretty much, if you're playing FBS football and you are excellent,

535
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Speaker 1: you develop into something excellent. If you are an amazing

536
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Speaker 1: right tackle at Cincinnati, an amazing edddresser at Cincinnati, NFL

537
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Speaker 1: is gonna find you. You're gonna be on national TV

538
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Speaker 1: a lot. Whereas if you're playing at I don't know,

539
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: Purdue or Indiana in an non twenty nineteen Indiana type

540
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Speaker 1: year where you're going five and seven and you just

541
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Speaker 1: you don't want to lose. I kind of think you

542
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: just go to Cincinnati, right if you're from Ohio, you're

543
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Speaker 1: from the Ohio area. Yeah, you want to win, and

544
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Speaker 1: you want to be discovered, and you want to play

545
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Speaker 1: in a really good defense, especially given.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a really good it's a good place

547
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Speaker 3: to be. Yeah, my answer is Cincinnati's all okay? And

548
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: your answer is what UCF or Memphis?

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably take UF Hi you see up in Memphis,

550
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Speaker 1: but yeah, you see Do.

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Speaker 3: You want me to play that again? Or are we

552
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Speaker 3: good with two.

553
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're good. I sounded wonderful.

554
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: Though, thank you, thank you. I pulled that off YouTube.

555
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Speaker 3: Where do we want to go next? Here on our

556
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Speaker 3: underway in the football orbit Friday orbit?

557
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Speaker 1: Excuse me? Uh, we can just talk about Willie Taggert

558
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Speaker 1: if you want Fau we can.

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Speaker 2: No.

560
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Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm gonna talk about because somehow

561
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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this to Bruce Bouchie.

562
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Speaker 3: Tie, Bruce Bochi in his size eight head.

563
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Speaker 1: That's exactly why, Tie. I don't know. If you've looked

564
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: at a picture of new app State coach Sean Clark,

565
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: former app State offensive coordinator and offensive line coach, Okay,

566
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: he might need to fall under that category of special

567
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: ordering hats size of Jupiter. It's like an abnormal canalope. Okay,

568
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: is where Sean Clark is, which I respect that as

569
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: somebody with a pretty large dome. So app State is

570
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Speaker 1: very very interesting to me, especially with how they've been

571
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: able to just continue excellence no matter who's the coach.

572
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: If it's Scott Sadderfield, if it's Eli Drinkwitz, now if

573
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Speaker 1: it's Sean Clark, I expect very little to change. They

574
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Speaker 1: still have talent on defense they're still going to run

575
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Speaker 1: the ball. We saw what they did. I think they

576
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: The Sunbelt Championship game has exclusively, exclusively been Louisiana in

577
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Speaker 1: app State. I'm just fascinated by that level of consistency.

578
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Speaker 1: So even like on a one week bowl schedule, if

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Speaker 1: APP State were playing Memphis or SMU or Cincinnati, it's

580
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Speaker 1: fascinating to me. APP State has distanced themselves pretty much

581
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Speaker 1: from the entire conference. So I just want to tip

582
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Speaker 1: my cap to the Mountaineers. They're just amazing.

583
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Speaker 3: And you want to talk about Sean Clark's hat size.

584
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you've had time to google

585
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Speaker 1: since I brought it up, but if you haven't in

586
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Speaker 1: your listening, if you haven't, and your tie hilden Brandt,

587
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Speaker 1: I would do.

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Speaker 3: So let's take a look here. Oh yeah, that's a

589
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: big dome. That is a big r. Yeah there's a

590
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: little bit of Brett Beilima in that dome. But yeah,

591
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: little Bert, that's a big head. Okay, we're gonna have

592
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: to find out an official hat size there and see

593
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Speaker 3: if we can see if they make a soliverable dad

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Speaker 3: hat big enough that we could send to the app

595
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Speaker 3: State program and Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the rage and cagns with what they were able

597
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: to do last year interesting to me for sure.

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Speaker 3: There any players, coaches, staff member besides Sean Clark and

599
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: his dome besides Sean Clark and is in his dome.

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Speaker 3: But you know, one of the requests that we got

601
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Speaker 3: here in the build up to the season was that

602
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: we should focus more on the Group of three because

603
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Speaker 3: we only got a Power three. Group of three is

604
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Speaker 3: hopefully going to take advantage of this safely and in

605
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: a healthy way to highlight what they do well as

606
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Speaker 3: a conference and some of their some of their players

607
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Speaker 3: I mentioned Shane Michelle, Desmond Ritter, who maybe I should

608
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Speaker 3: or shouldn't be as high on as I am. Are

609
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Speaker 3: any of any other names maybe outside of Dylan Gabriel,

610
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Speaker 3: who I think you mentioned, that really rise when you

611
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Speaker 3: start thinking about the.

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Speaker 1: The group of three specifically, I mean Zach Thomas has

613
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Speaker 1: been under center or taking shotgun snaps for app State

614
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Speaker 1: for a while now, and that that is interesting to me.

615
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I like a lot of guys on Louisiana's offense.

616
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Speaker 1: Obviously Levi I got Levi. One name Levi is uh

617
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: is somebody I like a lot watching, especially because he's

618
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a lefty. I mentioned a Holton Naylor's I don't know.

619
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Speaker 1: I think up front for the the Tulane Green Wave,

620
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Speaker 1: I believe it's Patrick Johnson. He's been there forever. That's

621
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Speaker 1: somebody who's just if you're if you happen to be

622
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Speaker 1: watching American football, that you should zero in on.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a shame that we can't use Kenny Gainwell

624
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: for Memphis, but he's opted out. Yeah, given circumstances, he's

625
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Speaker 3: poised I think to be a draft pick a really

626
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: productive campaign. Another guy from Cincinnati. I'm not just gonna

627
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Speaker 3: list off all of Cincinnati's players, I promise, even though

628
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: I could along the line, but a mod Gardner. Yeah,

629
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Speaker 3: in their secondary, I think is is really on his

630
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Speaker 3: way up. Had three interceptions last year in his very

631
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Speaker 3: first season. Scored on two of the interceptions. So he's

632
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: an electric player that they've got out there at cornerback

633
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: who just adds another dimension to this defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to shout out Laane Hatcher, who

635
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: may have had the most productive season as a freshman

636
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Speaker 1: for Arkansas State. Now, obviously the Red Wolves have already

637
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: played and lost a game against Memphis. But Laane Hatcher

638
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: really interesting to me. When you're able to come in

639
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: as a freshman and show yourself to be ready to

640
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: roll on the FBS level, no matter the position, but

641
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: especially quarterback, that excites me. That gets me going. And

642
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Layne Hatcher with how efficient he was as a freshman,

643
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Speaker 1: it's sort of unheard of. I just I like that

644
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: a whole lot. There are a couple coaches who were playing

645
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: in that coaching carousel together, and Will Healey and Mike Houston.

646
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Mike Houston and East Carolina came over from James Madison.

647
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a national championship winning coach time. And

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Speaker 1: then with what Will Heally was able to do at

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Speaker 1: previous stops on the FCS level, now coming into Charlotte

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Speaker 1: takes them to a bowl almost unexpectedly. You know, those

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Speaker 1: are just ascending programs, especially Charlotte that I just have

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Speaker 1: my eye on, Tie, I just have my eye on.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little disappointed, Dan that you didn't mention Demonte Cosey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so am I But there's only so

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Speaker 1: many players I can name on Memphis because.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty three targets last year as a

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Speaker 3: junior nine touchdowns, almost thirteen hundred yards. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be Brady White's primary target again. Looking for big things there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to talk about specific matchups? I

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Speaker 1: have a list here, gimme him. I wrote down a

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Speaker 1: list here of some specific matchups. Just as you're looking

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Speaker 1: over your season and you're saying, well, there's no real

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Speaker 1: good I don't know SEC game this week. There's no

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Speaker 1: real good Big twelve game this week. Saturday, October third,

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Speaker 1: is that rematch of Memphis SMU that I mentioned, And

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Speaker 1: that's at SMU this season.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Mountaineers of app State and Louisiana October seventh.

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Speaker 1: That's in Moon tie UCF Memphis in Memphis October seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: You know UAB the last time they lost at home

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Speaker 1: tie twenty seventeen for Orald Different World. Yeah, Houly Casch.

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Speaker 1: So they're they're on the road against Louisiana text so

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Speaker 1: at least Tech gets them at home. Memphis Cincinnati is Halloween.

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Speaker 1: That is a Halloween or tie and game on Arkansas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Arkansas State at the Rageingcaguns of Louisiana on November seventh

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Speaker 1: and then Western Kentucky, who we actually talked about on

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Speaker 1: our preview show a little bit as being dangerous, and

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Speaker 1: we mentioned why do you hear like a giant lawnmower

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Speaker 1: or something outside of my way?

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Speaker 3: We had this issue with your recording last time with

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Speaker 3: a giant machine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there is some sort of machine. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: timing has worked out, but they're at FAU on the

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Speaker 1: seventh of November. So and then Cincinnati Use, which we've

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Speaker 1: mentioned before, November twenty First, okay, pretty good, not bad, not.

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Speaker 3: Bad, Dan, are you ready for some space trivia?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What are we calling it? Is this?

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Speaker 3: Hmm Jetpard Trivial per space space.

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Speaker 1: I like that too. Let's do Jeopard Deep Space.

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Speaker 3: Five questions you can answer along at home if you

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Speaker 3: want to. After this, we'll let to fine people go.

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Speaker 3: We're going to continue bolting on goofy segments here. That's

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Speaker 3: what we do, Dan, what is the hottest planet in

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Speaker 3: the Solar System?

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Speaker 1: The hottest planet is actually Venus, I think because of

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Speaker 1: the cloud cover, even though Mercury is closer to the Sun.

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Speaker 3: You are correct one for one, because I remember.

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Speaker 1: I had a planetary place Matt growing up.

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Speaker 2: Tie.

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Speaker 1: So my my space facts they're okay, they're okay, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, one for one. All right, what is the name

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Speaker 3: of the North Star?

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Speaker 1: I know the I think the effect is called the

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Speaker 1: Aurora borealis. That's perfect. But oh, it's okay. That's the fact.

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Speaker 1: That's not the name of the star.

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Speaker 3: That's the effect that the North Pole. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's got much to do with.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, the colors, okay, the North Star, Dog Star,

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Speaker 1: dog Star, No, it's Polaris, Polaris. Okay, dog Star knows.

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Speaker 1: Keanu reeves his old band. Yes, was just a guess.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Keano.

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Speaker 3: One out of tude.

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Speaker 1: All right. Next, here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 3: There is a tough one, Dan. The distance across the

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Speaker 3: United States is around twenty nine hundred miles see to

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Speaker 3: Shining Sea. Twenty hundred miles. Is that greater than or

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Speaker 3: less than the diameter of Pluto?

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: Less than, it is greater than Actually.

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Speaker 1: It's greater solo. Pluto's diameter is less than that of

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Speaker 1: the United States.

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Speaker 3: Again, from seat a shining seat, around twenty nine hundred miles.

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Speaker 3: Pluto's diameter is around fourteen hundred and fifteen hundred miles.

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Speaker 3: According to the New hotazons spacecraft.

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Speaker 1: It's a dwarf star. Is that what it's called? Our

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Speaker 1: a dwarf planet.

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Speaker 3: It's not even really a planet. Depends you talk. If

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Speaker 3: you're talking to Neil de Gresson.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's it's called a dwarf planet, alleg I

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Speaker 1: believe categorized as such. I believe.

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Speaker 3: Next question, which planet has the biggest ocean.

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Speaker 1: In the Sour System? We're talking about a water ocean.

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Speaker 3: Which planet has the biggest ocean?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just going to guess Jupiter. Jupiter is correct,

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Speaker 1: it's a big one tie. That must mean it has

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Speaker 1: a big ocean. What is the ocean filled with?

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Speaker 3: Though metallic hydrogen? It is twenty five thous miles deep,

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Speaker 3: which is coincidentally enough, the same as the diameter of Earth.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, there's You look at the surface of Jupiter.

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Speaker 1: Tie elite elite happenings. Hasn't there been a Was it

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Speaker 1: a hurricane that's been like going for the Big Red Spot?

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Speaker 1: I got a ton of d time. Yeah, the Big

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Speaker 1: Red Spot is a hurricane that's been happening for god

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Speaker 1: knows how long.

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, he's one am I now two

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Speaker 1: of four.

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Speaker 3: You are two of four.

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Speaker 1: That is correct. I'm already happy with this result. All right,

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Speaker 1: final question.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready? I'm ready, Daniel. Which planet is

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Speaker 3: bigger Venus or Mars?

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at my blaze man air in terms of

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Speaker 1: what measurement in terms of diameter? Okay, Mars?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm sorry. The answer is Venus.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Venus is? How much bigger is Venus

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Speaker 1: than Mars?

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Speaker 3: Venus is sizeably bigger than Mars, much bigger than Wow,

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Speaker 3: almost twice as big as Mars. And Earth is just

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Speaker 3: a shade bigger than Venus. They're around the same size.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it. Is What

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Speaker 1: is it that you would say fascinates you most about space?

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Speaker 1: Is it the discovery of new universes, galaxies, dimensions, whatever,

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Speaker 1: black holes, novas that are what star is exploding? Is

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Speaker 1: it events? Is it discoveries? Is it spacecraft? Is it

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Speaker 1: all of the above? Which is non answer? What is

768
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Speaker 1: it that if you see a news story involving this

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Speaker 1: with space, you're clicking and you're diving in.

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Speaker 3: Anything about new means of propulsion?

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is a big matter.

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Speaker 3: It's there's a there are several Google alerts set up, right,

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Speaker 3: not gonna lie, this is so good a Google alert

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Speaker 3: coming in about an impossible engine or something of that. Ilk. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in baby.

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Speaker 1: So in the way that some people have sporting events

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Speaker 1: that are bucket lists, like I gotta get to the

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby, got to get to the dayton of five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I got to get to Wimbledon, or I have to

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Speaker 1: I want to stay in one of those tropical hotels

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Speaker 1: that's like on a pier, right, the room is on

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Speaker 1: a pier overlooking the water. Would it be accurate to

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Speaker 1: say you have a bucket list experience of like a

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes tour of jpl NO in California.

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Speaker 3: Because I want to understand what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, you could just ask it's just an AMA, a

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Speaker 1: private AMA for you at JABS.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't. I wouldn't know what task. I would

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Speaker 3: honestly not know what task. And it's not from being starstruck.

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Speaker 3: It's just from being dumb struck in a sense, I

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Speaker 3: don't know the right questions to ask. I enjoy the

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Speaker 3: confines of my office chair seeing a Google alert come

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Speaker 3: in and feeling like somebody has unlocked the keys to

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 1: What about going to Hawaii for the giant telescope at

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Speaker 1: the top of Mona Kea.

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Speaker 3: We have folks who are very familiar with that telescope

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Speaker 3: who listen to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent true. Who I'll tell you after

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Speaker 3: the show. WHOA do you have a telescope in? I

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Speaker 3: believe the solid verbal as a whole has a telescope in?

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Speaker 1: Would you take advantage of that in a new world.

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Speaker 3: In a new world where you can actually interact with people, yes.

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Speaker 1: Or you can interact with people like you would fly

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Speaker 1: to Hawaii. Let's say you found yourself in Hawaii for

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Speaker 1: a wedding.

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Speaker 3: If I found myself to make it, I would consider it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: absolutely interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the telescope, the TWINKEC telescopes in Hawaii more

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Speaker 1: attractive to you than JPL.

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Speaker 3: I would say, so. Yes, I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think we got to make this happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: look twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen thousand, six hundred feet above sea level. If

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Speaker 1: you can get there, we will be moderately entertaining. About

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty ones. How about that?

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Speaker 3: All right? So, look, this is a work in progress,

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Speaker 3: much the way the Twos Cruise was a year ago. Dan,

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Speaker 3: Right now, we've got an intro in a couple funny sounds.

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Speaker 3: But if you're listening at home and wondering where is

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Speaker 3: this going to go next, you maybe don't even want

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Speaker 3: to ask that question. Because we got real weird with

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Speaker 3: the twos crews. We made shirts. Will have to come

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Speaker 3: up with something UFO themed this year. This was our

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Speaker 3: underway Friday Orbit.

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Speaker 1: We need more you words. We want people to submit

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Speaker 1: you words that might make sense over the course of

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Speaker 1: the season. I am going to jam unctious in there

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Speaker 1: one way or the other, but otherwise I'm open.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, that guy over there is my good

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Speaker 3: friend Dan Rubinstein. My name I am Ty Hilton Brand.

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Speaker 3: We're going to play them on our Sunday recap show.

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Speaker 3: Do tune in to that show. We will go through

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Speaker 3: all of the activity from week two as it were,

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Speaker 3: as we now embark upon voyage upon this college football

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Speaker 3: season in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, we got football tomorrow. We have a college

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Speaker 1: football Saturday tomorrow if you're listening to this on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and then we got football. We might have Levi Lewis

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Speaker 1: shredding Iowa State. I don't know. We got something.

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Speaker 3: We got something, all right, for that guy over there,

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Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilton Brand,

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Speaker 3: thanks again for stopping on by, for downloading the show,

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Speaker 3: for giving us your ear for the better part of

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Speaker 3: an hour. We will be back on Sunday to talk

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Speaker 3: about all the action that was in this new college

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Speaker 3: football season. In the meantime, stay safe, stay healthy, and

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Speaker 3: by all means stay solid.

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Speaker 1: Peace.