1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January twenty second, and we have been 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: riveted by this O pair affair murders trial and the 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: defense of Brendan Banfield has begun. The prosecution rested its 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: case earlier this week, and we just wanted to get 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: you updated on all of the latest happenings inside that 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Fairfax County courthouse. We've been watching it pretty much NonStop. 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: There's a live stream that's just going on in this apartment, 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and his defense has been rigorous. Now we should get 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: you updated just in case you're a little bit behind 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: on this case. We've been covering it, but for those 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: of you just tuning in. Brendan Banfield is a former 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: IRIS agent. He's charged with the aggravated murders of his wife, 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Christine Banfield, and another man, his name is Joe Ryan, 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: who prosecutors say he lured along with his O pair 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: to the home believing that he was participating in a 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: mutually agreed upon fantasy rape sexual encounter. But the idea was, 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: according to the prosecutors and according to the old pair 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: who was testified, that they were setting Joe Ryan up 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to make it look like he was killing his wife 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: and that Brendan would then shoot Joe Ryan and be 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the hero. All of that is now playing out in court, 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: and the defense now has it's shot at trying to 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: poke some holes into that prosecution's narrative. And yesterday was fascinating. 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: The defense seemed a little rattled, would you not say, TJ. 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the guy the defense attory. We've been giving a 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: lot of credit for how he's performed and how he 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: handled himself and how he handled a bunch of prosecution witnesses. 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: He has seemed to be thrown quite a bit by 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: objections from the prosecution and from the reaction from the judge, 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: who has been very even throughout the trial. 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And so they began, as most defense 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: attorneys began with emotion to dismiss, saying that prosecutors failed 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to provide enough evidence and from the trial we were watching, 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: it almost seemed silly that he went through this, but 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: its standard stuff, and the judge did deny that request 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: for a motion to dismiss. But they brought on that 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: much anticipated digital forensic's officer. His name is Detective Brendan Miller. 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: What did you make of his testimony. 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: I haven't made anything of any of their testimony. I've 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: been waiting for something, and they tease things in the 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: opening statement about what we might see, but at least 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: so far haven't necessarily seen anything that landed. 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So Brendan Miller is the detective, and 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about him before. Who Well, he testified that 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: it was Christine's phone, that's Brendan Banfield's wife, that was 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: used to create the fet life account that was used 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: to lure Joe Ryan. The defense is trying to say, hey, 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: it could have been Christine who did it. It certainly 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: wasn't our client, it wasn't Brendan, and so that was 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: important to the defense and we were really anticipating this 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: testimony because we thought, hey, this might be the thing, 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: because if they can convince jury the jury that Brendan 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: did not lure this man, but that it was in 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: fact Christine who was into this fet life account. And 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: by the way, fetlife dot com we've been learning as 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: we go along here, this is a fetish website that 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: was used to communicate between someone. The prosecutors say it 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: was Brendan and the O pair and Joe Ryan. So 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: this testimony fell flat in my opinion, because the cross 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: was pretty dramatic. The prosecutor was able to get Miller 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: to admit that he could not say who is behind 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the screen of that phone. He only knew it was 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Christine's phone. And with now hearing the O Pairs testimony, 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: Juliana magales that she is admitting to and testified that 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: she and Brendan used that phone. It kind of did nothing, 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: would you not say? I mean, it was a meh moment. Unfortunately, 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: he wanted a Perry Mason moment. 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Didn't happen, I know, And they set us up for that. 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: They told us we would hear something different, and the 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: big moment came where the big person that was supposed 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: to say yes. Essentially, this guy's forensics showed that it 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: was her that was on the phone, given that she 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: was the one at that time that should have been 75 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: in possession of the phone. So he said, as far 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: as forensics goes, yes, she was logged in and it 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: showed him on that end, and he believed that she 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: was on the phone. However, he couldn't. No one can 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: say one hundred percent unless they were sitting right there. Yeah, 80 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: if she. 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: Was unless you have visual corroboration, I believe is what 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: they were saying. The only thing that was interesting. And 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: I don't know where this goes and what the defense 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: does with it, but that same detective did acknowledge and 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: did testify that he was reassigned against his will, that 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: he was taken out of the investigation and he was 87 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: the lead digital forensics guy, and he said this. He 88 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: finally admitted it took a while, it was related to 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: my work in the Banfield case. Does that raise enough 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: questions for the jury? Does that create any sort of 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: win for the defense to get that detective to acknowledge 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: that he was reassigned because of his opinions? 93 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: The bar is low, So if you have to point 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: to that is maybe a win that they scored or 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: a point they scored. That doesn't say a whole lot. 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: We don't know why he was reassigned. It's here, it's 97 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: his word versus somebody else's word. I just says a juror. 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't take that into the jury room and think 99 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: a whole lot of it. 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: And there were so many objections by the prosecution. It 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: felt like every question the defense attorney asked there was 102 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: objection and it really rattled him. 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she was on point. I give her 104 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: a credit. The prosecutor, she had to be paying very 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: close attention. But it was going on every every I mean, damn, 106 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: it felt like every question for a little while. 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: It did, and it was effective because you could just 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: see him and you pointed out when we were watching 109 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: it that the defense already kept looking up like he 110 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: was trying to find words. He was trying to find 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: a reason or a new way to ask a question 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: to get what he wanted out of this witness. But 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: it really it was not a good day, and in fact, 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: you could see the stress even on Brendan Banfield's face 115 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: as he was watching this all go on. Now, the 116 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: defense did move on trying to undermine the blood evidence 117 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: that the prosecution had. They had their own blood expert 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: who said, and you liked this woman, she was actually 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: a great witness, but testifying how blood basically works and 120 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: how you can get a lot of information. And the 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: point was the prosecution is saying Brendan Banfield moved the 122 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: body of Joe Ryan to make it look like Joe 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: Ryan stabbed Christine. And so they were talking about where 124 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: the blood flowed and how they could tell whether or 125 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: not the body was moved. So the defense brings up 126 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: its own blood spatter analyst who said that there was 127 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: not enough evidence to determine that blood drops were dripped 128 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: from above, because that's what the prosecution says Brian Banfield did, 129 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: and that is what Juliana testified to as well. So 130 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how effective that was, but it did 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: cast some doubt. 132 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: Not enough, I mean, just not enough. You gotta okay, 133 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: just fine, they'll cancel each other out. If they're both credible, 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: they cancel each other out, and it still leaves you 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: with this other mountain of evidence. A key eyewitness in 136 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: the AH pair. No, I mean they just didn't score 137 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: big enough points to go into that jury room in 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: my opinion and question, what is a hell of a story. 139 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on cross examination we should point out. So, yes, 140 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: they had their blood spatter experts say yeah, there's definitely 141 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: not enough evidence to be able to say if someone 142 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: dripped that blood onto Joe Ryan's body, But on cross examination, 143 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: she then had to concede it was possible that the 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: blood droplets on Joe Ryan did get dripped onto him, 145 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: even if she didn't agree with the prosecution's experts, so 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: it really was kind of a tough day for the defense. 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Now when we come back, we are going to talk 148 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: about why Brendan Banfield got very emotional in court as 149 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: his defense began, and it wasn't because he was upset 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: with his attorney or how things were going. He was 151 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: wiping away tears for quite a while. Welcome back everyone, 152 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: as we go over the defense of Brendan Banfield. They 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: have now been in court now for the second day 154 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: of the defense portion of this trial. We were expecting 155 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more. We were expecting at least some 156 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: moments where you're thinking to yourself, Wow, this is really 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: throwing the prosecution's narrative into question, and as a juror, 158 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that could be true. None of that 159 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: happened yesterday. Maybe we had too high of an expectation, 160 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It wasn't the defense we were promised, 161 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: at least so far in opening arguments. 162 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: It's the one where you could expect when there's as 163 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: much evidence against you, this is they're doing the best 164 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: they can. And our favorite attorney tells us, Alison Triesel, 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: there's a stinker of a case, and this is a 166 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: stinker and they're doing the best they can, and it's 167 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: kind of making the point that they got nothing. 168 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Yes, And so the defense, in addition to bringing up 169 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: this digital forensics officer who we were hoping to hear 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot more from, and then this blood spatter expert, 171 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: they have been bringing up detectives who were there on 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the scene, and notably, they brought up one of the 173 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: detectives who was basically with Brendan Banfield throughout, even accompanying 174 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: him to the hospital. And so they played the body 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: cam video for jurors, and their focus, the defense's focus 176 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: was trying to get the officer to talk about Brendan's 177 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: emotional reaction that day, but we could only hear the audio. 178 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: The jurors saw the video, and certainly Brendan saw the 179 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: video as well, and while this was being played out, 180 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: Brendan was very emotional. He was wiping away tears. And notably, 181 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: we should point out there are family members of Brendan 182 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: and Christine in that courtroom, as you might imagine, and 183 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: several folks who were there, Reporters who were in the 184 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: courtroom said everybody was crying and that's a tough thing 185 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: to have to watch and to relive for jurors, for 186 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the victims' family members. But Brendan himself was emotional. I 187 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: don't know what kind of weight that carries with the jury. 188 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: They're certainly watching the defendant in these moments. 189 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, sitting and we always say we put 190 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: ourselves in the position of the jurors and sitting in 191 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: that jury box. If I had seen him doing that, 192 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought much of it because of the 193 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: way Again, you can't interpret I don't know what's going 194 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: on as his head or his heart, but just looking 195 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: at it as a juror, I didn't buy it. 196 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a moment in court that really threw 197 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: me the and this worked against the defense. But the 198 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: defense attorney was asking the police officer, hey, wasn't he 199 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: on his knees over his wife's body when you came in? 200 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: And the prosecution was able to come back and say, 201 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: when you saw him there on his knees over his 202 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: wife's body, was he applying pressure to the wounds? Did 203 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: he use a blanket, did he use any of the sheets, 204 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: did he use anything available to him? Did he look 205 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: like he was trying to stop the bleeding, and the 206 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: officer said, no, that was damaging. That was damning. All right. 207 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: I didn't, don't get me wrong, and that I didn't 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: for me, I didn't think that much of it in 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: a panic situation like that, And who knows what to do? 210 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: Have you been trained in first aid? You see all 211 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: that blood? You know, I actually didn't think too terribly 212 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: much of that, But I get your point. 213 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: So they are now today calling several more witnesses throughout 214 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: the day to day, and by the way, we want 215 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: to you know, we are following this, We are continuing 216 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: to watch this, but this is expected to be a 217 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: very long day in court today and normally this trial, 218 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: the jurors get Friday off. But we heard the judge say, 219 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: because of this impending snowstorm, this massive snowstorm that's hitting 220 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: pretty much all of the country, but the mid Atlantic 221 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: and the Northeast are going to get walloped with snow 222 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: we expect, so they say today is going to be 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: a very long day to make up for any potential 224 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: absences because of this incoming weather. But throughout the day 225 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: to day they're continuing right now to call detectives and 226 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: it's unclear. I can't really see where the defense is 227 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: going right now, but they do have a ton of 228 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: witnesses that they are expecting to testify today and into tomorrow. 229 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I can't think of what more they could do or say, 230 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: because the two things we were promised by the defense 231 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: and opening arguments was this forensic, this digital forensic officer 232 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: who was going to just blow the theory that Brendan 233 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: was behind the cat fishing that didn't happen. Then they 234 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: said they were going to be able to show the 235 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: blood efforts, was going to show that Brendan took no 236 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: part in staging a crime scene that fell flat. I 237 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: can't think of what else more this defense can possibly 238 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: do to try and swaye the jury. 239 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: And that's why we have a trial, right We'll see 240 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: what the judge said, clear this thing is going to 241 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: wrap up. She said they'll have this case soon, certainly 242 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: by next week. So this is coming down to it. 243 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how much more. They don't have a 244 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: lot more time. So if they are waiting for their 245 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: big moment, they are waiting until the very end. 246 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Well we will be watching so you don't have to 247 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: because we have these trials. We have multiple trials we've 248 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: been watching and have live stream throughout the apartment as 249 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: we're monitoring all of the events. But this again is 250 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: supposed to go a little bit later into tonight. If 251 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: anything significant happens, of course we will hop back on 252 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: and we will bring you the very latest in this 253 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: compelling trial that the at least the nation is watching. 254 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: All eyes on Fairfax County will continue to monitor it 255 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and bring you all the latest. But as always, we 256 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside my 257 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: partner t J. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.