WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Rucker Bullish On Jones and Watt Combo 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.480 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:10.440 He got jack. This is the Big Red Rain presented 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.760 by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown, Hen's up 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.360 for bets, goes up and makes the game. When it 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:22.880 cast Flarry Luncheon does it again. The Rage is brought 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.680 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.400 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:37.200 State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit acy Cardinals 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:45.400 dot com, Slash podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.640 Flurry Rage, take it over. Here's Paul kel VC. Get 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.720 the popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show and Ron 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.840 will flip. It doesn't get any better than that horn. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:03.600 Unleash the far keep your head on a swivel. Here 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.440 this evening on the Big Red Rage presented by santan 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.040 Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, um always fully 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.600 you know it could be maybe there's a tight end. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.080 Perhaps you might sign on the line that has dotted. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.480 Maybe a veteran running back. But no, that's not what 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.200 I'm talking about. What I'm talking about, ladies and gentlemen, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.720 is that nobody, and I mean nobody puts more thought 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:31.840 into and gets more enjoyment out of April fools than 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.200 our own ron wolf lay. Oh my goodness, So Thirddag, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.039 just keep your out on a swivel. Who knows what 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.560 wolf has in store on this April Fool's Day. It's 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.919 not officially over yet, and we're hoping the wolf doesn't 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.440 doesn't take advantage over the next hour because we might 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.280 be a little susceptible here, still socially distanced on big 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.920 red rage. All right, Polly, listen, anyone who listens to 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.720 big Red rage or has listened to Big Red rage 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.840 over the years, of course, you know, and they know, Polly, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.160 there was no way in the world I engage in 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:08.040 the April fools. Yeah, fools, Paul. Did you know in England? 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.799 Though it's very interesting? Did you know over in England? Paul? 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:15.799 Have you ever been to England? As a matter of fact, yes, traveling, 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.600 I spent an inordinate amount of time looking at the 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.720 desk of Charles Dickens. Put it out way with some 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.440 guy who took about four hundred some photos of Charles 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.280 dickens desk. You know what's interesting about it is the 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.959 fact that over in England they actually play the prank 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.960 on you and then they point at you in say 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:43.359 April Fool, not April Fools. They make it personal over 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.880 in England, a person instead of instead of plural or 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.160 maybe possessive like we own it. No, it's strictly on you. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:56.560 You you are the April fool. Paul. Interesting, So I'd 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.640 ask you right now for a Laria Showed update, but 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.120 that would be April Fool and there'd be absolutely no wolf. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.760 I was thinking about this though, and we got a 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.400 big show. I mean, we're the original Thursday night football 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.760 here on the Big Red Rage. Oh yeah, and we 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.280 have Frosty Rucker who is going to be our guest. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.040 If you want some football IQ and just wisdom in 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.120 life in general, you go to Frosty Rucker, the former 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.640 Cardinals defensive lineman. Do you not about it? So there's 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.720 that out there. But I was thinking about this when 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.079 it comes to Larry Fitzgerald. Maybe he's made his decision 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.880 yet hasn't made the announcement and has no plans to 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:38.480 make an announcement. We all know Larry. If he's done, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.320 we'll fade into fade into black. If you will, you know, 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.760 like the end of Sopranos or what happened, and you 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.680 won't hear from him again. You know, we're all thinking, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.160 maybe it'll be a tweet something, you know, maybe it'll 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.720 be a player's tribune article. I don't know what if 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.240 he just decides that he's done and doesn't necessarily share 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.360 it with anyone other than the decision makers in the 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.920 Cardinals front office. Wo that is really really interesting. I 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.440 did not even consider that. I've always thought that Larry 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.680 was waiting, that he was waiting for something. I don't 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.960 know what that something might be, but I don't see 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.200 Larry being that conflicted guy. We've talked about this before, 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.359 back and forth, Should I go, should I stay? No, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.280 that's not Larry. He's waiting for something, and that's something 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.279 will make up his mind for him. That's what I believe. Well, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.760 they created a little more cap room Wolf, which we'll 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:33.920 get into next. Could it be just the business of football. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.440 Maybe it's a final offer, a final salary figure that 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.240 he's been waiting on, what's plausible, feasible, doable, and after 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.200 the Cardinals made some moves to get further under the cap. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.280 We'll get into that next maybe that because honestly, well 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.640 if that's just a theory, I truly think that he's 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.080 gonna play next year. I really do. We'll get into 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.160 that next in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:03.680 four in Gilbert, the poll is hit the Patriot one 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.440 the quarterback. Wilson is in the shotgun formation. Lynch will 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.160 flank into a left two Wine to the nearside, one 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.960 to the fog. In the shutt gun, there's the snappets 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:19.480 felt high prick Frowsters, but's intercepted by Fulcol Butler. Welcome 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:24.479 Butler is intercepted Russell Wilson at the goal line. Twenty 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:29.560 second trift. Butler does an unbelievable job getting inside and 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.760 I'm surprised that Russell Wilson through it here. Butler read 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.200 the play perfectly, one behind the pick and ran right 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.800 to where the slam was going to be. Throne. Butler 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.000 did it all right. That was Super Bowl forty nine 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.000 at State Farm Stadium, and he sealed that Super Bowl 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.120 win from the New England Patriots, stealing it away from 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.760 Russell Wilson, Marshawn Lynch who never got the football, and 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.719 the Seattle Seahawks not only was at the end of 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.200 the Seahawks chances to repeat his Super Bowl champion. A 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.279 lot of people think that was the end of the 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:07.000 Seahawks dynasty at that time, and even Malcolm Butler himself 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.039 this week called it one of the best plays in 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.200 Super Bowl history. It is the big red range Power 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.560 presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.960 Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and the Cardinals new CB one 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.240 top cornerback, Malcolm Butler. Your reaction there, wolf Well, First 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.000 of all, let me just say I think it's the 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.359 greatest defensive play in Super Bowl history. I really do. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.159 When you go back and you break it down as well, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.880 and just watch the way that Malcolm Butler read the 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.920 play and then broke on the ball and picked off 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.520 Russell Wilson. I have to tell you, Bali, I think 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.200 it's one of the most notorious plays, infamous plays, if 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.400 you will, in Super Bowl history, and a lot of 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.520 it speaks to the player that the Arizona Cardinals got. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.160 It's not just Malcolm Butler, a tough guy, a tough corner, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.480 but it's Malcolm Butler the guy that understands the game. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.240 His knowledge of the game, Polly, and his experience allows 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.719 him to make plays that maybe his physical abilities no 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.640 longer can abide. You know, he said he just had 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.880 his quote best year at the age of thirty. Interesting 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.040 when he made that play. He was a rookie out 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.520 of West Alabama, an undrafted rookie out of a smaller school. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.920 So it's been quite a run for a two time 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.720 pro bowler and a guy coming off what he says 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.040 was his best year ever, a guy who could have 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.400 made ten million plus if he had stayed with the Titans. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.440 They needed to make a salary cap decision. He became available. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.119 He's now an Arizona car. Knowing he was asked about 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.920 twenty twenty one, I almost definitely think we can make 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.440 him push. Guys get older than things like that. But 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.840 if you're doing the right thing with your body, you 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.800 staying focused, you committed to the game, you committed to 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.160 one goal, and that's just winning, you know what I mean. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.400 If everyone had the same mindset, that's what we're gonna do, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.520 and our ball harder this year. You know, I was 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.160 what had my best year at the age of thirty 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.000 age and number at a number here there you go. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.880 Maler by the way, he said he had dinner the 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.520 night before with defensive coordinator Advanced Joseph some of the assistants, 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.120 and he said, in a quote, Wolf, we talked about 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.480 how if we want to win, this team has got 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.480 to be led by the players and not always the coaches. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.119 Ding ding ding ding ding. We've got a winner, Paully. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:25.480 We've got a theme this offseason, don't we. Yes? Oh so, Paul, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.040 can you see it? Paul, you're the sideline guy. I 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.760 understand that I'm the analyst. Of course, it's so easy 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.040 for me to see. But Paul, even you the sideline guy, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.640 can you actually see this? Pay can you? Paul? Can 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.920 you see exactly what Steve Kim in the Arizona Cardinals 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.280 have done this offseason? We saw it for ourselves in 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.840 Week sixteen with the playoffs on the line. Where was 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.920 the energy and the intensity and the focus. And so 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.440 you just saw wild variation some performance last year. And 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.719 Steve Kim Wolf use the term self policing of the 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.320 lit room. Yes, from Afar, looks like he brought in 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.720 a lot of guys with that sort of DNA. Oh listen, Polly, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.840 you know what I've been talking about and you and 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.200 I have been talking about this for a long time now, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.240 but since the season has ended, this team needed to 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.959 get more physical, and it needed to create a culture. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.679 Maybe you want to call it more leadership, whatever it 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.120 may be, those two things to me, I think you 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.240 had to develop a culture in the offseason. And anytime 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.000 you talk culture, you're talking leadership, and you need models. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.640 You need men to walk around and model that culture. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.880 But the physicality of this team, everybody they have signed, Polly, 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.680 everybody Steve Kim has brought in right now, it blows 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.840 my mind how physical they are. J. J. Watts, Rodney Hudson, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.840 A J. Green is a big wide receiver and a 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:53.640 physical Malcolm Butler is a cornerback. In his physical Polly. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.640 You can go down the list. Every one of these 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:01.560 guys alpha males. Even Matt Prador, a kicker, is over 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.720 two hundred pounds as a kicker. It is an alphabet, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.600 a guy that's been around a long time. Everybody they 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.360 brought in fits the mold of being physical, Polly. And 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.040 then also these are leaders. All right, let me ask 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.880 you real quick about a guy they sign who might 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.000 end up being the most important acquisition in the offseason. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.960 And we're talking about the backup quarterback, the new guy 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:28.400 in town. Tuesday night, they agreed to terms with Colt McCoy. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.719 Your reaction, the gritty called McCoy right here, Polly, I 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.679 I it is. It's part of the transformation this offseason. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.120 I wonder what it poured tens in terms of the offense, Polly, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.040 I do. I'm sorry. Is the offense going to be 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.160 more under center? Are they gonna take Kyler Murray and 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.400 stick him under center and run some more traditional plays 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.480 like the tackle zone to either side and the play 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.760 action plays that come off that tackle zone. You see 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.240 the Green Bay Packers doing it all the time. You 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.160 saw you saw the Rams do it all last year. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.880 It's their entire offense. The Seattle Seahawks even incorporated. I 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.920 wonder if the Cardinals are going to do that, and 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.960 if they are going to incorporate more traditional elements, more 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.440 traditional schemes into their offense. I think that's a perfect 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:21.240 fit for McCoy. He played in four games last year. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.360 I had a couple of starts, and I think that 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.960 when the Cardinals did all that study going into their 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.840 game against the Giants. Remember, Daniel Jones was fifty fifty 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.320 and so they studied both quarterbacks. I'm guessing they liked 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.040 what they saw in film when they were getting a 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.960 glance and game planning for the potential of Coote McCoy 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.840 getting the start. So there you go, he figures to 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.640 be the backup. What does that mean about Straveler? Right, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.320 Chris Streveler. We'll talk about that, and we're gonna hear 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.640 from Frosty Rucker coming up, and next we'll talk about 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.440 the safeties and what that defensive backfield looks like. On 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:57.440 the big red rage black out of the gun, We're 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.679 rolling to and right the moving blocket flack. It's hamnered 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.240 from behind. Sean Williams nuts and free. The ball is 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.880 loose ball team trying to pounce on it. Sitcinnati's cut 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:13.720 it a safety blint from Shawn Williams and Blacko got balled. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.080 Shaun Williams was shot out of a cannon. Roethlisberger drows 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.760 over the mental intercepted by Shawn Williams. Night running to 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.160 the fifty, down the fire sideline to the forty on 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:29.120 his feet. The party cut twenty but ten by five touchdown. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:36.000 Sean Williams intercepting Ben Roethlisberger and sprinting fifty nine yards 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.240 to put the Bengals on the scoreboard. Birch and the 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.800 Bengals radio all fired up right there. Previously we heard 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.600 Westwood one little montage there Shawn Williams, the Cardinals brand 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.719 new safety. Another guy thirty years of age, brings the experience. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.600 He has the knowledge of advanced Joseph's system. He goes 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.560 way back to his Bengals days with a Cardinals defensive 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.480 coordinator that was key in him signing. The line that 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.640 has dotted it is the Big Red Rage presented by 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.760 Santan Ford and Gilbert Frosty Ruckers still on deck in 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.200 this edition. The former Cardinals defensive lineman but Wolf give me, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.160 give me your thoughts right now on where the Cardinals 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.360 stand in the secondary. We talked about Malcolm Butler and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.520 now Sean Williams as some depth at safety. Yeah, Polly, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.320 you know, obviously, with the corner situation being what it 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.600 is right now, I'm loving what I'm seeing with Malcolm 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.920 Butler on one side and then Robert Alfred. You know 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.280 how I feel about Robert Alfred. Hopefully he's going to 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.440 stay healthy somehow, some way. That got a great deal 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.880 on Robert Alfred, brought him back on a one year deal, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.280 and now all of a sudden, if he could stay healthy, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.080 you've got two really good corners on the outside corners 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.760 that I like, and then obviously Byron Murphy lining up 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.600 in the slot Polly, so I like the corner position. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.200 But man, the safety depth right now is drastically improved 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.360 on this team because Jalen Thompson, of course in Buddha 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.319 Baker should be your starters out there, and I really 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.640 really hope that Jayleen Thompson, somehow, some way PAULI is 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.360 gonna stay healthy because if he stays healthy, he's going 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.680 to continue to grow. But when you look at the 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.160 depth that Steve Kim and the Arizona Cardinals have put 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.120 behind these two starting safeties, it speaks to the disaster 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.760 that was last year. Remember all the safeties that were 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.960 dropping Paul last year and could not play. I mean 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.880 that Carolina game, which was the Cardinals worst defensive performance 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.640 by far in my opinion, just the eyeball test. I 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.920 don't care what the numbers say. Remember you were missing 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.040 Buddha Baker and Jayalen Thompson in that game, and that 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.960 hurt I mean, those guys are so dynamic, they account 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.520 for being such the pulse of the defense in so 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.400 many ways. But they're not the biggest guys, and if 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.240 they're prone to injury, you need that depth at safety. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.160 And in Sean Williams, you're talking about a guy who 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.560 two years ago one hundred fourteen tackles in a pick. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.600 In twenty eighteen, he had one hundred ten tackles and 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.720 five interceptions. Last year relegated to a backup role. Oh 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.040 what does he have left? You know, he's playing at 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.680 the almighty age of thirty. So we'll see if the 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.960 Cardinals fight out. But well, if you tell me Vance 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.640 Joseph loves to use multiple safeties a lot of his schemes. Right, yeah, no, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.920 there's no doubt about it, PAULI. He really is. And 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.560 then you've got tweeners like Zeke right, Zeke Turner. You've 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.720 got tweeners that are out there right now, Sean Williams, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.920 Chris Banjo, Charles Washington. Think of the depth right now. Listen. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.200 Charles Washington flat out a ball on special teams. He 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.280 and when given the opportunity, he's played very very well. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.200 Chris Banjo is another guy that is just going to 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.200 go out there and ball. I look at the safety 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.560 depth and there's no doubt you're right on it. Pauli Vans. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.040 Joseph likes to use a lot of the safeties. But 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.840 you know what, you also need those guys to be 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.880 your your special teams players and some of your best 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.240 special teams players. And that's exactly what they've done. Do 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.640 you think the Cardinals need to sign another veteran corner 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.120 between now and the trap? And I bring that up 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.800 because Quentin Dunbar reportedly is going to visit the Arizona 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.960 Cardinals in the near future. Played last year with Seattle, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.800 was plagued by a knee injury from day one. Really, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.960 he had a knee injury in camp in August. Never 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.880 got past it. He only played in six games. And 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.840 so you know his rating, the passer rating he gave 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.400 up when targeted one eleven. Not good. Year before when 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.640 he was playing for Washington and had a career year. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.640 The passer rating he gave up when targeted sixty one 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.560 point two and he's a six two corner. And I'll 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.960 tell you from field level, the dude is imposing. Quentin Dunbar. Yeah, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.120 you've seen a lot of Quentin Dunbar right there, Paully, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.000 I would say, you can never have enough corners. You 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.960 can never have enough veteran corners that can get you 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.000 out of a game. And I think Quentin Dunbar, I 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.640 think the Cardinals have answered your question if in fact 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.120 they are gonna host him, if that report is accurate, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.800 they're gonna bring him in. They think they need to 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.080 sign a veteran corner, But I don't think it's gonna 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.600 have any influence on who they're gonna take at sixteen, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.960 because if there is a corner, one of the top 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.560 three corners that are there, I think they're gonna go 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.840 with a corner. That's just my gut feeling, yeah, And 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.359 I think if that is still their desire, well, that 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.520 they don't want it to be too much of a 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.919 need going round one, right, They don't want it to 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.439 be a tell correct yep? Or absolutely you're risking teams 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.240 trading in front of you. So if you signed yet 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.000 another corner, not only for depth, but it maybe it 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.479 throws people off the scent of what direction you might 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.919 go at number sixteen. Overall, right, we don't have to 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.520 do what do you think we have to take a corner. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.919 We don't have to take a corner. Just watch us, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.119 all right. Frosty Rucker coming up in this edition of 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.760 the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:53.240 we Are. Satan Ford drops back, throws over the middle, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.359 fatted down. Frosty Rucker got a piece of the football 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.760 with the right paw oh man class and try to 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.600 hand it off and he got tackled by Frosty Rutner 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.280 as he dropped back and look at the veteran attack 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.760 to agap. How about that for some get off handed 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.639 off the height off the right side and he has 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:14.119 spun down in the backfield. Frosty Rucker was there for Arizona, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.280 handed off to cumming him off the right side and 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.680 he is ripped down at the eighteen by Rutger. Wow, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.800 Frosty Rucker. Frosty such a wildly veteran. Kaepernick takes the 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.280 shotgun snap short set and steps up man sec by 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.919 Frosty Rutcker. Man, Rucker, such an underrated player. And they 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.960 wouldn't be where they are defensively without that guy. And 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.800 that's a double ding. Dave passed Ron Wolfley on the 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:43.159 Arizona Cardinals Radio Network talking about a guy who I 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.399 still remember, Wolf Heep and I verify this. It was 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.320 a Cardinals Chronicles episode of video biography of sorts, and 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.000 he wrote a little essay, Frosty Rutcker, and he said 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:55.800 when he was done, he wanted to know that he 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.800 was trusted and respected by his team mates and he 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.200 knew that he left it all out on that field 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.480 during NFL career that lasted five years with the Cardinals, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.280 well more than a decade in the league. Do you 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.440 think Frosty Rutger checked those boxes right? There's no doubt 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.080 about it, Paulie. Frosty Rucker. Wherever he goes, he gets 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.760 the well met handshake from people he played against. And 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.040 it is all about you, presented by Santanford and Gilbert 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.720 our special guests, former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker, joining 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.520 us from the East Coast, staying up a little later. Frosty, 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.280 how are you doing. I'm good man, and thanks for 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.720 the kind words man. That means a lot. Frosty one 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.480 of my favorites, buddy, just the consummate pro man. Thank 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.760 you so much for coming on the air tonight. We 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.760 appreciate it. Buddy. No, absolutely, I missed you guys. What's 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.399 going on? You guys and away were yet you know 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.359 we're still socially distanced. Okay, so we're remote locations. We 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.480 loved having you in person. Oh man. That seems like 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.240 a lifetime ago, doesn't it. And we're up there on 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.960 stage where you know, there's Frosty Rutger and we're chopping 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.040 it up and visiting frost I've got to ask you 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.639 this though, one career interception, I'm trying to remember you 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.879 didn't get that as a cardinal. Tell us about that 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.600 one interception. Well, you know, I remember it like it 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:17.359 was yesterday. So I was playing for Cincinnati and we 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.840 were playing versus Pittsburgh Steelers, and Big Ben tried to 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.120 throw the ball. He tried to throw a dart at 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.240 someone over the middle and then actually hit off the 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.920 guy's helmet and it found its way into my big 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.119 mits and I rumbled and stumbled twenty six yards and 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.280 I was caught by the running back. So it wasn't 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.480 a big Ben. It wasn't a big Ben. Was caught 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.880 by the running back. That's important, Frosty, it was very important. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.159 And he had a nice angle on me. So you know, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.400 everything played a factor into why I didn't score, But 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:48.679 I made a big play for my team, and I 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.840 was pumped up. Were you a former tight end or 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:53.920 anything in your younger days, you know, did you play 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:58.920 any of those skill positions? I was a running back. Actually, yeah, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.399 I was pretty good too. That doesn't surprise me, Wolf, 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.359 because if you're in the NFL, you have size and 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.960 you can move, so that doesn't surprise. By the way, Frosty, 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:12.119 your USC team all was just Gonzaga away from making 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.840 the final four, you know, but heck of a season. Nonetheless, 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.480 Oh my god, those guys played their tails off Gonzaga. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.920 Just I mean, they looks like they can compete in 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.520 the league right now, the way they move and cut 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.160 to the ball and defend and make points. I wouldn't 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:30.760 be surprised if they go and defeat it through this 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.480 whole season. And Frosty, when you look at defensive football 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.760 in the National Football League, I know you've been out 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.200 a couple of seasons right now, but when you look 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.560 at defensive football in the NFL, what is the first 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.440 thing you think of? What an attribute do you absolutely 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.160 have to have in order to be a good defense 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.679 in today's NFL, you gotta be able to run, and 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.199 you got to be able to defend the pass. I 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.760 think the way the league has continue to shift, it's 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.600 a more offensive league. People are going, you know, over 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.159 the top, and your defenders on the back and have 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.040 to be not only smart, but they got to be 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.960 able to cover guys. So I think that that's the 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.639 element that you just have to have. You have to 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:16.520 have defenders. You know, you played a couple of years 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.440 with Chandler Jones, and the Cardinals had to go without 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:23.359 Chandler Jones for most of last season. Your thoughts on 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.439