1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The great Adam Amen is with us. He is back 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: from Germany. Israel was very upset with him, as was I, 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: because he was making us do math on a Sunday, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: telling us there's like seventy four seconds remaining in the game. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Listen math on a Tuesday. I can handle is why 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: are you objecting to this? You were the one who 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: brought it up yesterday, Adam. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Let me clarify. Okay, it's the early game out here. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Obviously it's the afternoon where you are. But the brilliant 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: game down here starts at nine thirty. I'm awake, I'm 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: ready to go. I'm watching it from the opening tip, 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: and I don't have a problem with it necessarily, Adam, 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: but I am torn between being impressed with the quick 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: math and asking myself, who is this for me? 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: Because I think. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: It's I think it's for like you and so like 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: just be in presd look at my math. 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: But honestly, I could be wrong. 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Maybe You've got a group of friend that it's just 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna do this every game. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: So we say ninety seconds all the time, ninety seconds, 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: minute and a half. We know it's ninety seconds. Nice 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: round number, Yeah, nice round easy number. 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 5: And to me, it's like, well, we get to seventy five, 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 5: that's you know, it's a minute fifteen. Seventy is a 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 5: minute ten. 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: And so I just started I started calculating it in 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: my head. And then I heard Mike Tarico and again, 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: all of us who do this job, all of us 30 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: who do this job, it's it's a crib noting job. Right. 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: If you're a writer, when you first start out, you 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: crib note from the people that you like or hear 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: or read or respect out of the gidea and you go, 34 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: all right, well then, and then how do I mold 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: that into whatever it is my style? What is the 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: amalgamation of whatever I become as a writer, a broadcaster, 37 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: or a chef or whatever. So like I heard Mike 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: Tico say hundred seconds when there was a minute forty, 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: and I was like, that's such. 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: A nerd thing that appeals to the nerd math guy 41 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 5: in me. 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm gonna I don't care who else, 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: nobody else does that. I'm see the asshole who decides 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: he's gonna say one hundred seconds when you get to 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: a minute forty, Yeah, and from and from down from 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: minute forty down. 47 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 5: I just go, I just go whole numbers. At that point. 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: The two that you did in this game where one 49 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: hundred and four seconds. 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: Where I just blew my mind. 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, that's more than nineties 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: that we're at it. I did the math real quick. 53 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: And then the other one was seventy seven seconds, and 54 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: now that was. 55 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 6: A tough one. 56 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I just I just think seventy seven sounds good. 57 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: One hundred and four is pushing it. One hundred and 58 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: four is pushing it a little bit. 59 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: I got to show off with the triple figures. I think, 60 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: why not? 61 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 5: You know, why not? Why not? 62 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 6: I'm not. 63 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you trying to cater to the math nerds 64 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: out there, but you're not appealing to the masses. 65 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 6: We're not. 66 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: We're not We're not here to sit at the bar. 67 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: We're here to raise the bar whatever. That's such a pretentious, 68 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: bullshit thing to say. 69 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: It's it's all now, it's more so just like it's 70 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 4: ingrained in my head and it just becomes the thing 71 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: to get out and it's I do appreciate you saying 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: that because it will make me more aware of this, 73 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: Like I'm not the person. 74 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: Who's gonna be like screw whatever. 75 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: Anybody else saying no, I want to know, Like, if 76 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: this is a weird thing to hear, I do want 77 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: to hear that, because it always not weird. 78 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: It wakes me up. 79 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: It's like I'm watching a game, Like, if you're just 80 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: going to tell me the time. 81 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: That's on the screen, I'm like, I can see the screen. 82 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: But when you're doing that. 83 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I got the graphics. But when 84 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: you're doing that, I'm like, this guy, he's playing. 85 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: A different game, and I appreciate that. Do you do 86 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: your color? 87 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: People anybody ever. 88 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Look at you and be like that was unnecessary? You're 89 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: showing off. 90 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 91 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm not. You know, in those moments, I may not 92 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: always be looking at him. There's no doubt in my 93 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: mind that at some point somebody heard that and goes, yes, guy, 94 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: what are we what are we doing? What are you 95 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: doing over there? Let's it's right, gear, keep it simple. 96 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: You don't have to do this anymore. 97 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: Right. 98 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I think you should sink into it and push it 99 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: out even further. 100 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: Just see how much you can piss off. Two seconds. 101 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 6: I don't know how many seconds I give. 102 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: If there's if there's three twenty left, we'll go two 103 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: hundred seconds, all right, So from here on out, three minutes, 104 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: twenty seconds, two hundred seconds left in this one. 105 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: Dude, please do what I'm begging to do it. I'll 106 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 6: feel like you're speaking to us if you do it again. 107 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: This is just three you guys. 108 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: If you hear that during any one of these games 109 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: I'm doing in the next couple of weeks, understand that 110 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: it is just for. 111 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: The three people, the four people that are on this call. 112 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: Right, we should remind everybody Adam is a play by 113 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: play announcer for Fox and does the Bulls play by play. Adam, 114 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: I will be listening to every Bulls game for the 115 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: rest of the season. 116 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: If you start doing that, but then just keep adding 117 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: to it. 118 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Five minutes left, a minute thirty left in the third quarter. 119 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Do the math on that. 120 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 5: Then we're gonna have to write stuff down, like, all right, 121 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 5: so it's twelve minutes, that means there are sixty seconds. 122 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 5: We'll figure that out for you. 123 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: You got a whole chart right in front of you. 124 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: It would be the most entertaining thing in all of 125 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: sports commentary. 126 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: It's so interesting what you said, just from a broadcasting standpoint, 127 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: kind of getting inside the industry here where you take 128 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: things from different people that you grew up watching, that 129 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: you respect, that you appreciate. I'm certain is he did 130 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the same thing for me. It was Christopher maddalber so period. 131 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 5: That was the only guy. 132 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: But what other broadcasters have you kind of taken stuff 133 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: from it, weaved it into your own broadcast. 134 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: I mean, anybody who listened to growing up so. 135 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: Like you know in Chicago it's Pat Hughes, you know, 136 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: doing the play by play for the Cubs down radio. 137 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: Wayne Lairvie was one of the Bulls' voices. Jim Durham, 138 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: you know, I did as he knows. I did ESPN 139 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: Radio NBA for years and. 140 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: That's right, jumped off the ship you and me booked. 141 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: You know, those are the guys that I modeled myself 142 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: after when I first started doing this, and then when 143 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: I really became a student of it, it was Mike Turico, 144 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: Iron Eagle. I was doing a very poor Sean mcdonnoy 145 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: imitation when I first started doing college basketball. Yes, it's 146 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: like and I didn't sound anywhere near like him. Like 147 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: my first minor league baseball season I did in like 148 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: two thousand and nine. I was doing a horrible Matt 149 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: mess Courgeon imitation, and it's just what, like you, you're 150 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: just trying to go, all right, what's the skeleton? What's 151 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: the blueprint for this? Because unless you're like watching critically 152 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: when you're seven years old, and I know there are 153 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: people out there that did, I didn't really start watching 154 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: this stuff critically until I was like eighteen nineteen years 155 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: old in college. I have a lot of friends, a 156 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: lot of people in the industry I'm sure you guys 157 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: do too, that were like six years old. They were 158 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: writing down how they were going to say, you know, 159 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: how a three pointer was going to sound when they 160 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: got their chance to do a you know, their first game. 161 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: I've never had that. So for me, it was who 162 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: are the best people? Who are the people that I 163 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: hear the most on the sports that I like the most? 164 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: But who can I imitate just to get a start 165 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: and then realize, all right, that's out of my realm, 166 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: you know. Like I love Kevin Harlan. He's one of 167 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: my favorite people, one of my favorite broadcasters. He's phenomenal 168 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: on the radio. But I can't do what he does 169 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: on the radio. His level of description is almost too 170 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: much for me to keep track of and to keep 171 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: up with. So my version if I do if you 172 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: hear ever hear me do a football game on radio, 173 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: it's like a smaller version or a less extreme version 174 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: of that along with all the other people I listened 175 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: to growing up. So all of this is an amalgamation 176 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: of a lot of different influences, a lot of different 177 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: people and listening and watching critically. 178 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 7: Adam, you're calling NFL games now you're calling games. 179 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: For the Bulls. 180 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 7: What's the furthest away you ever felt from that? Like, 181 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: what was the sporting event where you're like, man, I 182 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 7: am not even close to where I want to get 183 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 7: to right now. 184 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so I could say the Nathan's Hot Dog getting contest, 185 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 4: But that's such a novelty that that's like, that's just 186 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: kind of a fun thing to do. I think it 187 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: was doing like high school football in Council Bluffs, Iowa. 188 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: In the winter of two thousand and nine, my first 189 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: full time job after college in Spirit Lake, Iowa. Drove 190 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: four hours down listen listen to Kevin Harlan on the 191 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: way because it was a Monday night. It happened to 192 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: be a Monday night when this playoff gives me in. 193 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: It was on Westwood One and I was on the 194 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: roof of a press box standing next to this guy, Aaron, 195 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: who was welcoming me to the radio group, and like 196 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: just all of a sudden said and here's Adam, I 197 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: mean with the play by play, and I go, oh god, 198 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: I forgot that this is my job now. So that 199 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: felt like a long ways away from standing you know, 200 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: at Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany that was you know, 201 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: built ninety years ago and has this incredible history and 202 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: watching an overtime NFL game, like that's a long distance away. 203 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, right, you're questioning everything, all the decisions you've made, 204 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: but armed with hindsight now you realize, like those moments 205 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: make what you're doing now, it makes it special. 206 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: Rights eight. 207 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: They are all building blocks for like, all of this 208 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: is a you're building foundational pieces and sticking them together 209 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 4: and you know, the brick and mortar of actually learning 210 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: how to do the job. Yeah, and then when you 211 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: finally turn around and maybe you've built the house and 212 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: you go, oh my god, that this is great, this 213 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: is awesome. 214 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: I can't believe I get to do this. 215 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: And now the biggest thing that those same people that 216 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: I talked about as being influenced is I'm fortunate to 217 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: call a lot of them friends or colleagues and mentors 218 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. Their whole philosophy is the 219 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: same thing of you're only as good as the next 220 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 4: one that you do. You know, the last one was great. 221 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: We had a blast in Berlin. I had a blast 222 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: doing a bunch of games in this last month. You know, 223 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: we had some really thrilled, thrilling events that we got 224 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 4: to cover. But you're only as good as the next one, 225 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: and that's got to be the focus in that regard 226 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: to you. 227 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: Know, it's funny, Adam, because you said you're doing like 228 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: invitations of other announcers early on. When I listen to you, 229 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: it always takes me a second to realize it's you, 230 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: because your voice is like almost like perfect, Like there's 231 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: no distinguished like accent, there's no like hoarseness, there's like 232 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: it just sounds great and super smooth. When did you 233 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: start to realize, hey, I can do this, Like I've 234 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: got the pipes for this. This is exactly what I 235 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: can what I can. 236 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: Be I think I didn't really know for sure until 237 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: I got to college, because you're like, you know and 238 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: again and how much of this is is real? How 239 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: much of this is just the people that you're around, 240 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: the environment you're in. 241 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: But I was like, oh, for a college kid, I'm 242 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 5: decent at this. 243 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: I won some awards, and that gives you a little 244 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: boost of confidence. It makes you feel like you got 245 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: a real future in this. You get people like, you know, 246 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: the Iron Eagles and the Mike Tourricos of the world 247 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: and say, hey, I heard you do this. Keep it up, 248 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: you know, those those things keep you going. That gives 249 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: you a little bit more gasoline, you know, you know, 250 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 4: a thimble of gas to throw on this this small. 251 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: Fire that you have. And then I think over the years. 252 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: It took a long time, like I've done this at 253 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: a high level quote unquote for fifteen years almost at 254 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: this point, like I started on National TV at twenty four. 255 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: I'm going to be thirty nine next month, and I've 256 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: done this a long time. Only recently, within the last 257 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: few years has it even like dawned on me that like, oh, 258 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: you're you should be confident in yourself, in your ability 259 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: and your preparation all that, and again that doesn't mean 260 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: it's going to be perfect every time, but the baseline 261 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: level of quality should continue to go up and up 262 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: and up. 263 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: And that's when I. 264 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: Finally felt in the last few years, like, Okay, you're 265 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: you're doing fine. Let's just keep fine tuning this. 266 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 6: Do you get nervous before you call games? 267 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: Not nervous in the sense of, oh my god, please 268 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: don't let me screw this up. 269 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: It's more nervous excitement. 270 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 5: It's now it's holy shit. I can't believe we get 271 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: to do this. 272 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: This is so cool, right, and I'm getting paid for it, 273 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: right and then like, this is my livelihood. 274 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: This is what I get to do for a living. 275 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: And it never it never dawns on me, like unless 276 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: I have to like pay physically pay bills like in 277 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: my office right now, I don't. 278 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: I never think about that, like as a job. 279 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: It's a job when I have to think of the 280 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: math of it all coinciddenly enough. 281 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 5: Otherwise this is not a job. This is a joke. 282 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: This is amazing that we get writers. 283 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm working right now, right, go ahead. 284 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: I have a question about your partner with the Chicago 285 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: Bulls Stacy King, But I wanted to give it to 286 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: Taylor first because we were talking about the Germany game 287 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: and we weren't talking about your time in Germany yet. 288 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: But Taylor had a question about the Falcons with that game, 289 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to keep it in order here 290 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: so that you're not jumping all over the place. 291 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a ridiculous question. 292 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: I apologize in advance for this question, but I'll also 293 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: say I am so fucking proud of Taylor for asking 294 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: said question. 295 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Taylor Adam. 296 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 7: I liked how you called the game because a lot 297 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 7: of it felt like you were speaking to the fans 298 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 7: and what they were thinking with some of Raheem Morris's 299 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 7: decisions in that Do you think the Falcons should have 300 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 7: just left him in Berlin? 301 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: Great question, It's a tremendously which the answer is going 302 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: to be the same that I would probably say if 303 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: it was worded in a different fashion. It is there. 304 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: The criticism of him for two seasons now has been 305 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: what are you doing with the clock? And it's surprising 306 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: to me that he's had the type of issues that 307 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: he's had that have been so magnified and on display. 308 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 4: And I know they's justification. There's always a coach's justification. 309 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's wrong, but in a modern NFL, 310 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: when you're playing the number one scoring team in the league, like, 311 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: I've asked a lot of coordinators and quarterbacks and coaches 312 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: similar questions this season during all of our production meetings, 313 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 4: especially the head coaches. 314 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: That are play callers. 315 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: I know Rahiem's not the play caller offensively, but I've 316 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: asked a lot of head coaches that are coordinators, how 317 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: is I have the kickoff rules, the touchback rules, field position, 318 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: aggressiveness of other teams on fourth down? How has that 319 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: affected you as a play caller? And to a t 320 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: all of like the progressive, more modern, forward thinking coaches, 321 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: which again I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but 322 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: most of them, to a tee, say I need to 323 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: be more aggressive because I know that that team's going 324 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: to have more chances to score there I know who 325 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: I'm playing on the other side. So I think a 326 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: lot of that has to go in to decision making. 327 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: And when you're the head coach, you may not be 328 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: calling the plays, but it's still you telling the coordinator, Hey, 329 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 4: I want to do X Y and Z. If we 330 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: get a stop on second down, let's call time out 331 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: with forty seconds, thirty eight seconds, whatever there is. And 332 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: if we get to stop, great, and if we don't, 333 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: all right, that was the risk and that's on me. 334 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: I maybe you know, had I not called the time out, 335 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: maybe the half would have closed and the Colts don't score. 336 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: I understand there's always a different permutation about where this 337 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: decision could go. Choose your own adventure style. But when 338 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: you're playing the numbers, when you're thinking about the numbers 339 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: and you're thinking about who your opponent is and what 340 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: the game flow is, like, I'm surprised that Raheem has 341 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: had this type of issue because he's been an offensive 342 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: coach and a defensive coach, and he's coached special teams before. 343 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 4: Like he's one of the things I loved about the 344 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: hire was that he's so well rounded it and I 345 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: do like him as a person, Like I've always appreciated 346 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: his his candor and meetings and things like that. 347 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: But you would have liked this Tarmac, but I would. 348 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: I mean, if if if I'm Arthur Blank, I'm going, hey, 349 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: you know, you know, Munich is wonderful. 350 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: This time get you out there if you. 351 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 6: Want, like, don't make them say these things, all right? 352 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: I like I like RA a lot, but I'm I've 353 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: seen three or four situations like this in his two 354 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: seasons as head coach, which I understand Falcons fans do 355 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: not appreciate. 356 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: So I'll move to something a little bit more comfortable 357 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: for you to speak about Stacey King coming again. 358 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: Just so you know, earlier we had we were having 359 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: a Kid. 360 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Cunningham discussion and Steve Goatts accidentally called them Kate Cumming 361 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: hands and says the natural segue when Stacey. 362 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: King has loved the dog. 363 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 6: I told you. 364 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been. 365 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: Doing the Sandford and Son I'm coming Elizabeth having a 366 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: heart attack, you know. But you know a lot of 367 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: young people in the world don't know Sandford and Son. 368 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: And he also threw a word in there time I'm 369 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: coming again Elizabeth, and everybody just took attention to it. 370 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: Did you know that that one in particular would get 371 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: more attention or because it was Stacey or like I 372 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: says this all the time. 373 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: No big deal. 374 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like to me, And again I to be uh 375 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: for for clarification, I did not call that Sixers game 376 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: because I was again, I had left for Berlin at 377 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: that point because I was last Tuesday. But trust me, 378 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: I watch all these games, even when it's two o'clock morning. 379 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Did I listen to the wrong highlight? 380 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: Because I he's so he So what's what's interesting is 381 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: my one of my one of the guys that fills 382 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 4: in for me is one of my close friends, Wayne N. Dazways, 383 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: the voice of the Angels. He does Apple TV baseball 384 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: and for years. We've been friends for for years and 385 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: he's been doing National TV and all that stuff for 386 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: a long time. He and I have more than on 387 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: a dozen occasions have been confused for one another. So 388 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: if that's the case, no no problem. 389 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: If you get I think somebody else wrote it. I 390 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: think maybe. 391 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Because that may have been looking up a story and 392 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: it said. 393 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: Totally funny, totally fine that that that happen. There's no problem. 394 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: But like I was there for the Laker game, you 395 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: know the last year when Josh Kiddy had had the 396 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: buzzer beater the first time he uh, he brought out 397 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: the Sanford and Sun reference and used it on a 398 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: couple of occasions in that game and certainly was worthy 399 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: of it. And then I'm sitting there having trouble sleeping. 400 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: Is I'm jet lagged and I'm trying to adjust the time, 401 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: and I'm I'm listening to the game, and I hear 402 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: that final call and I brought it out again and 403 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: adjusted it for the next generation of it. So I 404 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: was like, well, there's only a matter of time before 405 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: they start talking about this one. I knew from the 406 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: get go. I texted Wayne and Stacey immediately. 407 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: I was like, this one's gonna go. I think this 408 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 5: one's gonna go viral to thank Taylor. 409 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm from I'm in a slump now now I'm pissed. 410 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Especially she said, you always know it's at and what 411 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: he's calling a game. 412 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: Seriously, it's all good. I don't get that. 413 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 6: But you see how quickly I bailed on you. 414 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: Is he. 415 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: Don't there's no reason to bail trust me. I I 416 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: appreciate that that that you consider my our our our 417 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: broadcast depth at a high quality too. 418 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: But I knew. I knew from this from the start. 419 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, this is this one's he's going 420 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: right back to the well and I know this one's. 421 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: The literal slump. Look at him. 422 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, chance. 423 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 6: Coming hands before. 424 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that got him out of it. That got 425 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 5: him out of it. 426 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: No slumps here, There are no slumps here. 427 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: That this is the slumpbuster for you right there. That 428 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: that's do got just gave. 429 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: The sporting event you haven't called that you most want 430 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: to call. 431 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean, the easiest answer is the super Bowl, obviously, 432 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: like that's the biggest thing that we have in this country. 433 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 4: That's that's the thing that I would love to do. 434 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: So that, but that's the obvious answer. Wimbledon is the 435 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: thing that I badly want to get a chance to 436 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: go cover. 437 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 5: I I love tennis. I've always been a huge tennis fan. 438 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: It never really came to fruition. 439 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: To to get a chance to do it at ESPN, 440 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: and I always wanted it, wanted a chance to do 441 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 4: it at some point in my career. I've always appreciated 442 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: the sport that my dad and I really my late 443 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: father really loved. He was immigrant from Pakistan, and between 444 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: baseball and tennis, those are the two things that he 445 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: loved the most. He was a huge Roger Federer fan, 446 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: loved Pete Sampras before that, and we would just watch 447 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: I mean we would watch matches during the during the 448 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: Australian Open because he worked weird hours and I had 449 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: a weird sleep. 450 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 5: Schedule, and like we would just be up at two. 451 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 4: O'clock in the morning for you know, three o'clock in 452 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: the morning some nights, just watching matches that were on 453 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: tape delay or whatever. 454 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 5: And we'd be up on. 455 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: Breakfast at Wimbledon on you know, on Championship Sunday, and 456 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: that was like a big deal. 457 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: I used to skip school to watch big matches. 458 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, all the time. 459 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean, that's it's it's stuff that we just loved 460 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: watching together and I always wanted a chance to cover it. 461 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: So at some point I'd like to go to. 462 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 6: Wimbled Me and you tennis podcast. What do you think 463 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: you think you want to do? 464 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: Just you and me on a pod? I think would 465 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 5: would would blow some people's minds at some point. 466 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: All right, let's do this, Okay, yes, no, we have 467 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: to do this. 468 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 6: Okay, for the majors, Okay. 469 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: You know, honestly, let's do it. I would love to 470 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: do anything, any project with you. I'm I'm I'm willing 471 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: to do addressing. 472 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Can I make another confession here, because this is what 473 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: really has me so depressed. 474 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 6: I did this. 475 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: Recently with another pair of people, and this one wasn't 476 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: with voice situations with with with looks, remember that time. 477 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 5: Where is that worse? Is that worse? 478 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: With the it's way way worse. Yeah, way worse, way worse. 479 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see what's together after he tells us that. 480 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 5: You can ask you. 481 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: You had a very similar situation at ESPN, where the 482 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: guys on the show had a lot of fun with him. 483 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: But I once saw a clip of Adam lefgo I 484 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: guess freestyle wrapping right on the set of Inside the 485 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: NBA or something like that. And then I was at 486 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: the I believe the All Star Game weekend where I 487 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: congratulated Jared Greenberg on such freestyle rapping in studio. 488 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: And those are two different people. 489 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: Here here's here, and Jared did not Jared was not 490 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: cool about it by the way that was left go 491 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: and he just turned away. 492 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: It would have been would have it would have been 493 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 4: weirder if it had been Mark Jones or something like that. Yeah, 494 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: I here's the thing. And you guys know, you guys 495 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: are close with that nan Burg. You guys know Kevin A. Gandhi, 496 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: you guys know any shrow like Dari Noka. We all 497 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 4: have a as we colloquially like to say, bron Boys 498 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: group chat and on. I can't count how many times, 499 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 4: especially when we were all at ESPN together, how many 500 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: times we've been confused for one another. I was in 501 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: the Birmingham, Alabama Airport, lying back from like a college 502 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: softball game or something, and this fan came up to 503 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: me and said, hey, sorry about it. You work at ESPN, right, 504 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: And I was like, uh yeah, sure. He goes, I 505 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: just want to tell you I'm a huge fan of yours, 506 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: Like I love the work that you do. And again, 507 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 4: these are little boosts of confidence when like you're a 508 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: young broadcaster coming up. 509 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 5: Wow, that's so cool. 510 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: And he goes, when you fill in on ESPN Radio 511 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: for Scott Van Pelt and when you do baseball tonight, 512 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: I just think you do such a good job. 513 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 5: You elevate your partners. And I didn't have the heart nor. 514 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: Did I have the like the ego at that point, 515 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: so Bruce to be able to say, actually, that's my 516 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: friend ad nan Burg I was like thank you someone 517 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: like with like a soft gestion in my heart. 518 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: I was like, thank you so much. 519 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: I really appreciate you telling taking the time to tell 520 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: me that he goes, can we take. 521 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: A picture together? 522 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 8: Oh no, oh, no, so somewhere and Alabama or me. 523 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 8: I don't know where this guy is flying to. Somewhere 524 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 8: on this guy's mantle is a photo of him and 525 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 8: somebody he thinks is ad nan Vert. And he tells 526 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 8: that story to somebody that has come into his own 527 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 8: and said, yes, this guy ran into ad nan. 528 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 5: Vert at the airport, and that person may or may not. 529 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 5: I'm gone. 530 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 531 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: I don't know why that makes me feel better than 532 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: I did it to white guys. It's the same thing, 533 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: but it makes me feel better. 534 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: Four hundred year heads start and everything else. I think 535 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: they could deal with one, you know, they could do. 536 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 6: What Wait, so, what's the name of this group? Text? 537 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 6: What is it? Again? 538 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 5: We don't. 539 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: We don't have a group, an official name for it. 540 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: I colloquially call in. I think some of us do 541 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: as well when we tell all our friends about it. 542 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: Is the Brown Boy group chat? 543 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: Okay, complete coincidence. 544 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: You know who was standing right next to me when 545 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: I said that to Jared Greenberg A me and al Hassen. 546 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: I just I just talked. I just talked to him 547 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: on Sunday when when he was doing his NBA show. 548 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were chat about the Bulls excellent start, which 549 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: is a flamed out a little bit in the last 550 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: we have. 551 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: Can we still talk about their start then? Like was 552 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: that realized? 553 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: Your flame out? More real? Which one's more real? 554 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: I just think it's I think it's a marathon, not 555 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: a sprint. And I do think that this is still 556 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 4: a team that has doesn't have a star, like a 557 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: star of stars the way like the last few games 558 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: they've struggled against you know, Cleveland, which has stars on 559 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: their team. 560 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: That is an alien. He is a star in this league. 561 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: Karl Anthony Towns has been considered and certainly gets paid 562 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: like a star in this league. And they had struggles 563 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: in those last you know, handful of games against really 564 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 4: good teams, and they. 565 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: Might still be like a five to six type of team. 566 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: They still may be good enough to avoid the play 567 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 4: in which has been the you know, their their death 568 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 4: trap for the last three seasons. But I still think 569 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: this is not like anybody who was like, oh, this 570 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: team's gonna be number two in the East or whatever, 571 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: like you still have to prove it first before you 572 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: start buying into it, and this has been a playing 573 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: team for a while. I think they're deeper, which means 574 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: they have an opportunity in a relatively weak quote unquote 575 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Eastern Conference to be a five or six seed, but 576 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: that would be I still think the best case scenario, 577 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 4: over an eighty two game schedule. 578 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 6: We'll get you out of here in seventy four seconds. 579 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: Out of the mean. 580 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: But I am wondering are the Bears excited about Caleb 581 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Williams of Ben Johnson? Do they think they have the 582 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: quarterback and the coach? Finally in Chicago? 583 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: They do? They do? 584 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: And fans here I've I've again kind of been dealing 585 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 4: with it away for a while, but even like the 586 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: last few weeks, there's I haven't I haven't remembered this 587 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: much buzz in probably seven years, which is something like 588 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: twenty two hundred days or something like that. 589 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 5: I don't know. 590 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, just to be an asshole about it, I know, 591 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: like probably since Matt Nagy's first year with defense, when 592 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: Big Fangio's defense was just elite and Trubisky was like, 593 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: oh okay, he's a solid game manager and they have 594 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: talent in the backfield, they have a couple of decent receivers, 595 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: but their defense is a leade. That was the last 596 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: time I thought that there was this level of buzz. 597 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: Even when they made the playoffs a couple of years 598 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: after that, I think they lost to New Orleans in 599 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: like a wild card game. Like, there hasn't been this 600 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 4: much buzz around the Bears team in a while, and 601 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: for a different reason. Right for forty years, this has 602 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: been a franchise in an organization that lived off defense. 603 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: And for the first time in a long time, and again, 604 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 4: he's probably going to bust most of these passing marks 605 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 4: in Bears history just by I think that speaks more 606 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 4: to the lack of quality quarterbacks in Chicago Bears franchise 607 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: history than anything else. But this guy's going to break 608 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: through most of the Bears passing records by either at 609 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: the end of this year or maybe if he has 610 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: another solid season next year, he'll do it next year. 611 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: This is the first time in a long time that 612 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: people actually feel confidence in the grouping along with you know, 613 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: a decent defense, an okay defense with some talented players 614 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: and skill position depth. 615 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: I think across the board, I. 616 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: Was going to concuse you on time stuff. But now 617 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: I'm just going to one question. You're definitely doing the 618 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: Pistons game tomorrow, right, because that's when I'm listening in 619 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: at every quarter. If there's two minutes, it's a possibilit 620 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: or two hundred seconds. If there's a possibility to say 621 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: that I'm listening it. 622 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: Here's the thing now, Now I'm more worried about saying 623 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 4: Kate coming hands than that's. 624 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: Right, that's the right team. 625 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 6: Leave that to me. 626 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 5: Man, all right, we'll say is that. 627 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: We'll save it for Fuzzy Balls, our our popular tennis 628 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: podcast coming up soon. 629 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: Yes, Fuzzy Balls. 630 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 6: I'm very exciting we're doing this. Okay. 631 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I would like to go to do this more often 632 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: because you're great and we appreciate your time. 633 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 6: Man. 634 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, boys, appreciate you a lot. Man, all of 635 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 5: you guys, see you Wimbledon.