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Speaker 1: twenty plus times a game, and part of it is

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Speaker 1: if my defense sucks. Now, this is also on Sirianne

434
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Speaker 1: to kind of map out overall big picture game plans

435
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Speaker 1: for an opponent. Well, for our defense sucks, what's the

436
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: easiest way to make them better? Keep them off the field,

437
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: what's the easiest way to shorten the game? Run the ball,

438
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: run the clock? Because right now Jalen isn't exactly Drew Brees,

439
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: so you're having, incompletions obviously turnovers coming from him. I

440
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: am writing Saquon Barkley like Secretariat, and he's shown that

441
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: you can't write him like that. So if he asked me,

442
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, whatever your game plan is to run

443
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Speaker 1: it this week at seven eight of them. I was

444
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: wondering if the Chiefs could go and sign Michael Thomas.

445
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Speaker 1: If they did, do you think he could make a

446
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Speaker 1: fraction of the player? No, absolutely not. I think Michael

447
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: Thomas is clearly kind of untouchable for a lot of teams.

448
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: That thing got weird, and that thing got weird fast,

449
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Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas went from like, God, this guy's a

450
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Speaker 1: ball or two kind of toxic. Who do you think

451
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: is leading the race for Rookie of the Year Jaden

452
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Speaker 1: Daniels or Malik Neighbors. Would they give it to a

453
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: non court I think it's a little like the Heisman,

454
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Speaker 1: a little like the MVP. If Jade has sixty seventy

455
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Speaker 1: percent of the season, which he's having moving forward, and

456
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Speaker 1: has some moments against the Cowboys and Eagles.

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Speaker 2: He would feel like a pretty big lock.

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Speaker 1: I would say, like, if this is a mile, right,

459
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Speaker 1: you're running a mile in every lap is like a

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Speaker 1: quarter of the season. You know, we're headed to week five,

461
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Speaker 1: so it's about quarter of the season. I know seventeen

462
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: games is not a flush four four four four, but

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Speaker 1: let's just call this quarter of the season. He's definitely

464
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Speaker 1: up a lap on Caleb like he ran, and Caleb

465
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: hasn't even taken off yet. Malik Naghbors now is concussed,

466
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Speaker 1: which is not I mean, obviously he didn't choose to

467
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Speaker 1: be concussed, but he's gonna miss a game. I think

468
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Speaker 1: if Jalen plays seventeen games, it's I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: win it. And I just think we're just so inclined quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's not really a fair fight. Question for the mailbag,

471
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: any chance the Chargers trade for Tyreek Killer Devonte Adams

472
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: or any trades mid season that you think could dramatically

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Speaker 1: improve the team. I know you said before that the

474
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Chargers don't value wide receiver, but I feel like how

475
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: awful their offense has been and how fantastic their defense is,

476
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: they have a real chance to make a run if

477
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Speaker 1: they can get a boost to their offense and give

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Speaker 1: it some juice.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your.

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Speaker 1: Time, I would say there is no way unless the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs or the Chargers would give up a first round pick,

482
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Speaker 1: that Mark Davis would allow Tom to LESCo to trade

483
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: DeVante to Andy Reid Er Jim Harbaugh, It's just a

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Speaker 1: non starter. It's not gonna happen. I also think they

485
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Speaker 1: would not be inclined to trade a lot of draft

486
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Speaker 1: capital for these players. Like ultimately Harbaugh once he leaves Michigan.

487
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to put absolutes on things, but it's hard

488
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Speaker 1: to see him like this is his last job, like

489
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Speaker 1: this is where he's gonna be. So those that draft

490
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Speaker 1: capital a second and third round pick, we'll see. How

491
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: you know they have a bye this week. I just

492
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna utilize those picks, and they've got.

493
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Some cap issues, so to trade for a player?

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Speaker 1: To me, when has Jim Harbai ever had a player

495
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill? Not that he doesn't think he's good,

496
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't see it. I'm an

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Speaker 1: American living in Austria, and it helps keep me connected

498
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Speaker 1: to the American culture.

499
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Speaker 2: He's talking about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I used to root for the Raiders, but have recently

501
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: decided until they can win ten games consistently.

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Speaker 2: I'll just watch football.

503
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I used to wait for Al Davis to pass, and

504
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: now I'm waiting for Mark Davis to do the same.

505
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel like nothing will change until A Davis doesn't

506
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Speaker 1: own the team. Since Mark has no offspring and has

507
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: never and he never sold the team. How would new

508
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Speaker 1: ownership be established. That's a question for the league, and.

509
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I think Mark. I think Al's wife, Carol, I'm pretty

511
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: sure she's still around. I think she's still alive. So

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00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: obviously Mark is the controlling owner. Once Al passed away,

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Speaker 1: she just lets him run it. You know, Mark's Mark's

514
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: not forty. I think Mark Davis is close to seventy.

515
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know what would he's sixty nine years old.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the answer to that. I know this,

517
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Speaker 1: if Mark Davis would ever sell the team, which he won't,

518
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and if the team were to be sold, you know,

519
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: one day when the Davis there are no Davis family

520
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: members around, Las Vegas Raiders would go for a lot,

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00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: no state income tax, stadium, the city, the money that's there.

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Speaker 1: I think, what did the Commanders go for?

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Speaker 2: Six five?

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Speaker 1: I think the Vegas Raiders would go would go for

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think they would get a have an

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Speaker 1: astronomical asking price, and I think people would be lined

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Speaker 1: up to buy that thing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not rooting for Mark to pass away here,

530
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Speaker 1: but I hear your pain. I mean, it's been a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Since he's on the team and it's it's had a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a feel it's been less crazy because

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Speaker 1: he is not like the patriarch of a guy that

534
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Speaker 1: knows a bunch of football in the sense of Al

535
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Speaker 1: who was a Hall of Fame legend, who was a

536
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Speaker 1: huge part of just the ethos and the sport of

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Speaker 1: the NFL and just pro football. He was a larger

538
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: than life character. I mean, he's on the short list

539
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: in like NFL history.

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00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: Of just famous names, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, when you just

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00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: close your eyes, if you think football, Vince Lombardi, pro football.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Vince Lombardi is kind of the Babe

544
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Ruth of football. But when you talk coaches, owners, people

545
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: that non players, I think it'd be hard to make

546
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: it past five or six without Al Davis. I mean

547
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you're talking Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, Jerry Jones, Al Davis.

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00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a short list, and Mark is obviously

549
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: a lot different than his father. But the one thing

550
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: that happened towards the end of ours life is it

551
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: got really chaotic, and it feels like the Raiders are

552
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: consistently more chaotic despite now moving to Vegas having way

553
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: more money than they've ever had. Nothing has really changed, really,

554
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: nothing has really changed, which is which sucks if you're

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00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: a Raider fan, because you're just looking at like it's

556
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: different because Al Davis comparing him to Dan Snyder is not.

557
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: It's not, you cannot do that. But the last four

558
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: or five years of Al Davis with the Projectors, with

559
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and just how embarrassing post the Gruden trade

560
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: was Dan Snyder like. And it still kind of feels

561
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: like it's rolling over. And you look at Washington who

562
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: got a new ownership, and just feels like people just

563
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: know what they're doing and it's way less chaotic. So

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Speaker 1: I gave Mark a lot of credit for attempting to

565
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on guys that other people wanted.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people wanted John Gruden for a decade,

567
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: and he was the guy that gave him ten years,

568
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, and then Gruden got fired on

569
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: that Monday night football game, I think it was the

570
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Ravens and the Colts. I remember sitting on my couch

571
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Speaker 1: watching the game when the story broke, and even the

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00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels Ziegler thing the forty nine Ers wanted Josh

573
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: McDaniels in twenty seventeen, he said no, and they got

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to fault him on that.

576
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Speaker 1: And I give him credit for like, we got to

577
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy. But for whatever reason, he

578
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: just can't make a right move.

579
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Speaker 2: He just can't.

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Speaker 1: And it just feels like the same thing over and

581
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: over again. And the problem is you have the new

582
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: dynasty in your division with Andy Mahomes. You add Jim Harbaugh,

583
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: who's all he does throughout his coaching life is win,

584
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: and then Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos, which clearly

585
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: are going to be better than they've been post Payton

586
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: right over the next two or three years. Like Google

587
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's resume, it's pretty good. So now you've got

588
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce who's liking things on Instagram.

589
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: It's just it's just very Raiders.

590
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders are gonna raider. Do you think

591
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: NFL players should get suspended for off the field issues

592
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: such as duys and such. I totally get suspensions for pedes,

593
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: But why can't we just let the legal system deal

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00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: with these punishments? And justice instead of having basically prosecute

595
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: a player. I think it depends for those of you

596
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: listening in like a corporate job. If you got a

597
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: duy right on a just whatever on any given night

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00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and you didn't miss any work, do you get in trouble?

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00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: Like let's say I got a duy tonight. I won't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna drink and drive, but let's just say

601
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Speaker 2: I did.

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00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: How would anyone ever know? And nothing would ever change

603
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: even if it got pub like nothing. I would still

604
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: do a podcast Sunday with Colin and I recorded another

605
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: one Sunday Night Football. So I think if we use

606
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: duy specifically, you could argue you're getting fined, You're getting

607
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: in trouble, like with the law.

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00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: Do you need to.

609
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Get just like a basic dui? Obviously if someone's injured, listen,

610
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: it's it's the reality of the result of the dui.

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: You know, if there's a crash and I'm not I'm

612
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: not trying to defend duys here. I've never got one.

613
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, should have got one.

614
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: I happened to get pulled over right in front of

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Speaker 1: my house.

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00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: It was it was a tough scene.

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Speaker 1: It really was and for whatever reason, you know, my

618
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: parents used to go to bed relatively early, so in

619
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Speaker 1: high school I didn't really have a curfew, but I

620
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Speaker 1: mean I wasn't coming home at the.

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Speaker 2: Crack of dawn.

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Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, that night, my dad was just

623
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Speaker 1: wearing me out and he was waiting up for me.

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: And then I get pulled over over and he comes

625
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: out and it was a scene. So the cop is

626
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna pull a gun on him, and fair as the cop,

627
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: he didn't quite know what was going on. And it

628
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: was bad, it really was, and we kind of had

629
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Speaker 1: a pow wow.

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Speaker 2: Luckily I don't there.

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Speaker 1: He didn't call for backup, because once the second cop comes,

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00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you're getting the DUI. And this is my senior year

633
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: in high school. During Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving break, you know,

634
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: usually in high school you get like Wednesday through the

635
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: rest of the weekend off. And yeah, it was bad,

636
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Speaker 1: but I ended up not getting one.

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Speaker 2: Cop obviously.

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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: He's like I told the cop, I said, take me,

639
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: do not give me to my dad. I'll go to

640
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: jail with you. Will you just take me to jail

641
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: and I'll spend the night in the drunk tank or

642
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: wherever you're gonna take me. I don't want to go

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00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: with him. I could see the look in his I like,

644
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be bad. And it was not good.

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00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: It was really bad, but obviously better than getting a DUI,

646
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Speaker 1: which I don't even know I was.

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Speaker 2: Was I eighteen, I think might have been seventeen at

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Speaker 2: the time.

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money, so it would have come

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Speaker 1: out of his pocket anyway. But I think it all

651
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Speaker 1: stems back to when the league was going through having

652
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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys get in trouble in the two

653
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Speaker 1: thousands that they've just they just kind of have a

654
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Speaker 1: universal policy, like if you get in trouble, they just

655
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Speaker 1: come at you. And I think we could nitpick it,

656
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Speaker 1: but I think they're.

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Speaker 2: Just like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna change.

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Speaker 1: Been a huge fan of the pod. Listening to the

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Speaker 1: previous day's podcast has become part of my routine. I'm

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: a feeling native living in New York while witnessing sa

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00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Quan's early success has been sweet. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of the same, a lot of the

665
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: same between this year's Eagle Squad and last year's. The

666
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Speaker 1: optimist in me feels like the offense will eventually figure

667
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Speaker 1: it out, but the defense remains a concern. This may

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Speaker 1: be a reach. Do you think Fangio being in the

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Speaker 1: skybox during the game has an impact on the defense?

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Speaker 1: On one end, I understand that being up there provides

671
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Speaker 1: a perspective that you simply won't get on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I do wonder if a more hands

673
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: on approach is needed in working speaking with specific players,

674
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Speaker 1: especially given Sirianni's CEO. I don't know wtf you even

675
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Speaker 1: do a role. I know it's likely he's in the

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Speaker 1: locker room at halftime. He is any coach you see

677
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Speaker 1: in the skybox takes the elevator down and goes in

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Speaker 1: the locker room at half time. I remember when Fangio

679
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Speaker 1: got hired for the Denver game, or excuting not the

680
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Speaker 1: Denver game, but for the Denver head coaching job. I

681
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Speaker 1: remember in his introductory press conference or early on his

682
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Speaker 1: career said, one of the biggest changes going to be

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Speaker 1: my entire career has been up in the box.

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Speaker 2: So as a defensive.

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Speaker 1: Coordinator with Harball with the Bears last year with my

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Speaker 1: like he's a box guy.

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Speaker 2: That's where he is.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, the downfall, Like, if your corner can't cover, if

689
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Darius Lay can't cover anybody, there is nothing Fangio can

690
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Speaker 1: tell him on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Nothing, So I.

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Speaker 1: Hear what you're saying. In last year with the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers, who Warner and Bosa made a big deal

694
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Speaker 1: of their coordinator being in the box because Sala and

695
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: Demico were on the sidelines. So middle of the year

696
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan made Steve Wilkes come to the sideline. That's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen here. It's just not I think as

698
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: of right now, their players are just not playing very well.

699
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: So if your DB's specifically your corners can't cover, and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis is not a good player, there is not

701
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Speaker 1: much Fanjo can do beside benching him. So I guess

702
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is now we can argue if that

703
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Speaker 1: scheme is right for the personnel, but he's not coming

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Speaker 1: down to the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Would be my guess.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be a change that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome that you're heading to the Red River for

708
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Speaker 1: the first time. I challenge you to come back next

709
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: week and say it's not the coolest college football atmosphere

710
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: you've ever experienced, Texas and know you fans love to

711
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: laugh at other rivalry comparisons. You mentioned having some doubts

712
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Speaker 1: about Sark's ability to build a tough, hard nosed team.

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Speaker 1: Could you elaborate on that and those doubts rooted in

714
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Speaker 1: his demeanor or more about the style of offense defense

715
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Speaker 1: he runs. It's been rooted in his teams. So you

716
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Speaker 1: go to Washington and then at USC when I watched

717
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Speaker 1: him as a head coach, and then he got to Texas,

718
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Speaker 1: they were just really soft. So it's not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: scheme things specific. It's like Lincoln Riley. His teams up

720
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Speaker 1: until this year have just always been kind of soft.

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Speaker 1: Now you can relate that to is it because of

722
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: his offensive style and practicing against that offensive style isn't

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Speaker 1: conducive to creating a physical defense. But I can just

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Speaker 1: judge you what I see on Saturdays or Sundays. Now,

725
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: once nil comes into play, you can just purchase the

726
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: best players, and that's a huge advantage for SIRK. So

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Speaker 1: if I can just purchase sweet players on defense, even

728
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Speaker 1: if my practice styles like part of the reason Harbaugh's

729
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Speaker 1: teams and Saban's teams I'd use Kirby as well, historically

730
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Speaker 1: have been so physical. Is because of the way they

731
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Speaker 1: practice and because of their offensive You know, historically Saban

732
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Speaker 1: was a run the ball up the middle, same thing

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Speaker 1: with Harball.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's changed a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And that just creates a physical culture and passing oriented teams,

736
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Speaker 1: especially in college. It's just it's why why is Texas Tech?

737
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: And that style of offense always had hideous defenses. Obviously

738
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Speaker 1: they've never recruited five.

739
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Speaker 2: Star guys, but look what you practice against every day.

740
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Speaker 1: Like, even when you split up and you go scout

741
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: team for offensive defense, you still end up practicing ones

742
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: versus ones in practice, and when you see that offense,

743
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: it just is not conducive. Now, one thing about Sark,

744
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Speaker 1: I remember two years ago he had John Robinson and

745
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: I forget what game he lost, a bad game. It's

746
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: like he just got pass happy down the stretch because

747
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: at his core he kind of wants to pass the ball.

748
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Speaker 2: Which I'm not opposed to, right.

749
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Speaker 1: I mean, Andy Reid loves to pass the ball, but

750
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Speaker 1: you can't really argue most of his career like defense

751
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: means a lot to him. He's a very defensive oriented

752
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: guy now in pro football because you can sign guys

753
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: draft certain players. You know, in college football up until

754
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: the transfer portal nil. Even when you're getting the best

755
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: of the best, you still need to develop them heavily

756
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: once they get on campus. And no one did a

757
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: better job of that over the years than Save It Right,

758
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Dabbo did a good job of that, and so did

759
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Speaker 1: Kirby with a lot of big time defensive players, and

760
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, go into the Red River grame. I mean,

761
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance to Texas be's

762
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: to piss out of them just because they're way better,

763
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: especially on offense. Now, look at Oklahoma this year. Their

764
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: offenses and shambles. They've benched the starting quarterback, they've gone

765
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: to the true freshmen, they have a bunch of injuries.

766
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: But one thing they're hanging their hat on a couple

767
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: of years into Venibles, who is a defensive guy who

768
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Speaker 1: became the highest paid defensive coordinator for most of his

769
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: career when he went to Clemson, is now.

770
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Speaker 2: Their defense is good.

771
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: That's just not random. Ultimately, you are what you preach

772
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: and you care about you just are, I would say,

773
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: in any walk of life, right, whatever, you do for

774
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: a living, the things you put emphasis on in that industry,

775
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: in your business, in your position, you probably are pretty

776
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: good at it, and things that you avoid or don't

777
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: care that much about, Like it's hard to be good

778
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: at that. So it's clear when you watch Venables, Like

779
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: when you think of Texas, what do you think of

780
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: dynamic offensive team? Same Ryan Day offensive guy, what have

781
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: they been most of his career since Urban left? Incredible

782
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: passing offensive team? When I think Venables one thing we're

783
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: learning now, it's hard to totally judge because like they're

784
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: going to be able to recruit offensive players, but they're

785
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: good on defense. When's the last time Oklahoma's been good

786
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: on defense? They were terrible in the twenty tens under

787
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops, Under Lincoln it was always their downfall, and

788
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: now then a Bowls a couple years in, they're excellent

789
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: on defense. If they had one of Lincoln's offensive or

790
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: Sark's offenses with their defense, they'd be like a national

791
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: championship contender.

792
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: In same thing.

793
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: You know Sark in Ohio State, like Ohio State got

794
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: bad on defense relative to their elite teams over the

795
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: last twenty five years under Ryan Day, well, what now

796
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: changed nil transfer portal. I can buy sweet players.

797
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: So what do they do?

798
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Alabama? One of their best players, Saving Leaves, puts his

799
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: name in the portal.

800
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: What do they do they buy him?

801
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Which again I'm pro buying guys. If I was Sark,

802
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: if I was Ryan Day, like, I can't change who

803
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: I am most of us once you hit a certain

804
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: age and both those guys are forty five fifty years old.

805
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: Ryan Days might be like forty four forty five, Sark

806
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: probably close.

807
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: To fifty now, like you are who you are, so

808
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: once you have a floor, and luckily as a coach,

809
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to see like what my flaw is.

810
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe we're never gonna develop incredible dominant defense.

811
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Speaker 1: We're never gonna look like the two thousand and one

812
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes. Well we can add to the personnel. You

813
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: give me a ten million dollar budget on defense, boom,

814
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll buy three or four of the best defensive players.

815
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: So and that's a huge advantage that they have. My

816
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: name is John in Portuguese. I'm from Rio, Brazil. I

817
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: guess his name is jow jo Ao. Is that how

818
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: you say it?

819
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: Jow?

820
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Is how we say our name in Portuguese, big fan

821
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Speaker 1: of your work. Do you think DeVante's comments about Washington

822
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: fans stadium could affect a potential trade? Honestly, never saw it,

823
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: but some of these story you're coming at me with

824
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan story a DeVante comment on Washington, I would

825
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: say about the stadium. I don't know exactly what he said,

826
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: but I do think it's fair to say that there

827
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: are certain stadiums you're not getting judged for what you say.

828
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: Right if you want to rip on where the Raiders

829
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and As used to play like, no one's holding that

830
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: against you. Washington's current stadium is a complete shittle. I

831
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: think we would I don't have to really think, but

832
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: probably worse in the NFL, probably one of the worst

833
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: in the three major sports. I don't know what he

834
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: said about the fans. That's always an easy one you

835
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: can run back. I don't think that's a deal breaker. Okay,

836
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: last question, lifelong Wisconsin football fan. In my thirty three

837
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: years on this planet, I don't remember seeing a Badger

838
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: team looking this awful and inconsistent. I know Fickle and

839
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: his coaching staff or trying to implement a completely new offense,

840
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: and I know that takes time, But when is it

841
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: time to say it isn't working in the head coaching direction.

842
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. What game was I watching? Well,

843
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: they got their ass kicked by Bama? Did they just

844
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: play USC? Yeah, they play USC and they were up

845
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: in the first half and then USC just beat the

846
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: brakes out of him the last like thirty minutes of

847
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: the game. And I was texting with someone I don't

848
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: know if he works in college football. Who was I

849
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Texan with was the NFL scout and we were just

850
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: kind of talking about the Wisconsin situation, and I do

851
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: wonder it's one of those that, you know, you leave

852
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati for Wisconsin, you say that out loud, You're like,

853
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: of course, Wisconsin football, and you say it out loud again,

854
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, what do you regret that? Is that

855
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: one of those situations where if he could have a

856
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: do over, he just would have stayed at Cincinnati, because

857
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I do think Wisconsin's a pretty unique job. And I

858
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: do wonder if he's trying to play in his mind

859
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the style of Big Ten football that he grew up

860
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: on playing at Ohio State, and it's the world's kind

861
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: of changed, you know, like Michigan would not be able

862
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: to do what they are doing and even sniff nine

863
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: wins if they weren't recruiting the best players. Like it's

864
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I was talking to Stucky about this a little bit

865
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: off air. How could you be Michigan and not have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback on the roster. I'm not saying Michael Pennix

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Speaker 1: or you know, to a tongaai looa like it's that

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Speaker 1: version of college player, but not have a guy that's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this guy's just a credible starter and you know what,

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Speaker 1: best case will be like a fifth round pick. Worst

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Speaker 1: case he'll be an undrafted free agent, but he's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate college starter for a.

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Speaker 2: Year or two. Like they don't have that. How's that possible?

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Speaker 1: And you watch Wisconsin offensively, they're just a knemic and

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Speaker 1: one issue they've had is just quarterbacks, like they're quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Graham Merch was their guy. What was that was Graham

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Speaker 1: Merch like a huge, huge recruit if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: And it just didn't work. So they're gonna be We

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Speaker 1: had a disadvantage that Ohio State has an unlimited budget.

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Speaker 1: Michigan is just gonna recruit better players than so is

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Speaker 1: penn State. So how can you find a niche of

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Speaker 1: something you do well where financially you can't keep up

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Speaker 1: with those guys? And to me, part of hanging your

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Speaker 1: hat would be for example, Utah, Utah was never gonna

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Speaker 1: have the budget of Oregon or USC back when the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve existed, but their coach created this niche. Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: our offense is never gonna look like Lincoln rileyes. It's

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Speaker 1: never gonna be like lang Kiffin and Sarks was at Alabama. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's never gonna look like Texas. But we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: NFL players all over our defense. And even if our

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Speaker 1: quarterback can't throw it backwards, you're gonna be in for

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Speaker 1: a fistfight every time you play us. And if we

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Speaker 1: just get a solid quarterback, we're going to be a

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Speaker 1: mother Well, Fickles a defensive guy, so shouldn't their defense

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Speaker 1: be just be dominant? Look at Beilama and this, you

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Speaker 1: know the the tiers when we talk about coaching. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy because a couple of years ago you thought fickle,

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Speaker 1: this guy's shooting star does feel a little over his head.

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Speaker 1: Beilama goes to Illinois, which has way less recent history

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Speaker 1: of being good than Wisconsin, and they're just good. You

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Speaker 1: just watch them, it's like, yeah, they kind of just

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're just a solid, solid team,

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Speaker 1: and Wisconsin is like, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's our direction here?

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Speaker 1: So obviously it's never it's gonna be more difficult in

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Speaker 1: this new era, especially in your conference.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I also I forgot USC and Oregon are in that

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Speaker 1: conference too. They're gonna have big budgets, But how can

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Speaker 1: you not hang your hat? Like to me, when I

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Speaker 1: think Luke Fickle like closed my eyes. I think they

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Speaker 1: want to play like Utah football, and you watch them,

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Speaker 1: they just I don't think, you know, USC was kind

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Speaker 1: of shredding them down the stretch and offensively. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can rely on when Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: was good, when Michigan State was good, they kind of

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Speaker 1: just ran the pro style offense and the pro style offense.

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Speaker 1: And when I was at Fresno State, we ran the

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Speaker 1: pro style offense. A tight end, a full back, a

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Speaker 1: running back, a quarterback who was truly kind of ideally

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Speaker 1: a game manager, a couple of receivers. I was kind

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Speaker 1: of boring, ran power a lot. You know, now worked

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Speaker 1: when we had Ryan Matthews. But I just I think

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Speaker 1: the world has dramatically changed. And I'm not saying I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what offense you're running, but maybe Jesus

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Speaker 1: a little over his head and maybe it's just a

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Speaker 1: bad fit for whatever reason. But to me, when I

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Speaker 1: think Luke fickle, I would think that he would want

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Speaker 1: to kind of be like Kyle whitting him, Like that's

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Speaker 1: what he would want to operate like, and it's just

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