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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Giants it out on the Giants Bubbling give me some

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Speaker 1: jum part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's row.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants, a

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Speaker 3: special Baldi's Breakdown edition and joining us coming off the

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Speaker 3: giants big thirty four to seventeen win against the Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: Eagles on Thursday night football, Getting up bright early with

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Speaker 3: me on this Friday morning is the one and only

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Speaker 3: Brian Balding or Baldi.

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Speaker 1: What's up buddy?

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Speaker 2: Hey? John? Uh, you know, good Friday morning. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what a what a performance, what a performance last night

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Speaker 2: from the opening drive really to the very end of

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Speaker 2: the game and in between. You know, they scored touchdowns

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Speaker 2: on five of their ten possessions. John, five touchdowns and

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Speaker 2: ten possessions. And you can't say enough about what Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Dart and Cam Scattaboo are doing to the team, the organization,

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Speaker 2: to the city, to the fans. It's really something to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Baldy And that's where I kind of want

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Speaker 3: to start, because look, the Giants have beaten teams and

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Speaker 3: they've surprised teams over the course of the last few years,

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Speaker 3: even when they have not played very good football overall.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you had some al right, Well, they

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Speaker 3: had a kickoff for tour. You know, they had a

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Speaker 3: bunch of takeaways. The other team didn't show up and

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Speaker 3: they just played poorly. This was just the Giants out

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Speaker 3: playing the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles put up seventeen points

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Speaker 3: in the first half. The Giants scored five touchdowns on

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Speaker 3: a short week with a rookie quarterback against the Vic

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Speaker 3: Fangio defense. Now, I know they had some of their

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Speaker 3: guys hard, I get all that, but I don't remember

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Speaker 3: the last time I really just saw a Giants team

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Speaker 3: outplay legitimately in many facets, a good team like the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they won the game in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations the offensive line, your slotman goes in their at

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Speaker 2: center and you know, no drop off whatsoever. I thought

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Speaker 2: they played really well up front. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: whether it was Kaelon Burnsey continues to play just outstanding.

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Speaker 2: But o'karakee Dame Belt the big play by float. But

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Speaker 2: like Honestly, Jackson. Dart just has this incredible skill John

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Speaker 2: of being able to maneuver in the pocket without sacking himself,

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Speaker 2: to keep plays alive and to find the open receiver.

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Speaker 2: He did it time and time again on the opening

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Speaker 2: two drives to convert third downs and then throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just pull the trigger and throw it one Dale,

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Speaker 2: you know Robinson on third and two in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the field between you know, two defenders right in

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Speaker 2: the middle, and just to a perfect ball. Like He's

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Speaker 2: got great touch, great feel, and he just you know,

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Speaker 2: just the way. You know you're around him every day,

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Speaker 2: but you know he has such a like a like

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Speaker 2: just a joy about the game and it comes through

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Speaker 2: the way he plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's kind of zero in on Dart here

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Speaker 3: because I think you hit a lot of it, Baldy.

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Speaker 3: And look, we're recording this at nine am on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I have not a chance to watch the tape yet.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Baldy slept last. He's already sent in

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Speaker 3: his breakdowns. He broke everything down. So we're gonna lean

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Speaker 3: on in here. So you know, Dable talked about it

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Speaker 3: after the game the and he calls them loose plays, right,

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Speaker 3: you can call them at a structure plays if you

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Speaker 3: want to every want to reference them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, he's just a playmaker.

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Speaker 3: And I think we talked about this two weeks ago

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Speaker 3: where you're right, there are a couple plays where he

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Speaker 3: holding it. I forget which play was, but an eagle

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Speaker 3: defender kind of went around the edge and he was

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Speaker 3: getting stripped from behind. Somehow he feels it, steps up

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Speaker 3: turning what could have been a huge negative play into

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Speaker 3: think pocket feeling, pocket presence.

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Speaker 1: Baldy to create extra time.

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Speaker 3: And then he doesn't drop his eyes as much he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that you can coach it, John, Like,

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Speaker 2: I just think he's got great for this because we've

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Speaker 2: seen it in every game now that he's started. We've

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Speaker 2: seen examples of it. But you know, the week before

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Speaker 2: in the Loston, New Orleans, they didn't have any explosive plays.

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Speaker 2: They had one run of twenty yards. Last they had

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Speaker 2: four four john in the first eleven plays. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have the big throat to little Jordan Humphrey. He

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Speaker 2: and he throws a perfect go ball down the field

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Speaker 2: on the play against Keeley, Ringo comes down with a

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Speaker 2: huge play. But they had four explosive plays in the

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Speaker 3: Had Baldy we taught you know last week we were

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Speaker 3: texting back and forth after the Saints game. When Giants

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Speaker 3: They made plays for.

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Speaker 1: Him early in this game, right.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the little Jordan Humphrey play, which was basically

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Speaker 3: just toss it up, jump ball, see if my guy

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Speaker 3: it was the following drive he completes again one of

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Speaker 3: these off schedule plays. He scrambles, he finds Wando Robinson

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown. And again, for a rookie quarterback, you

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Speaker 2: And so they did, all of them, you know, whether

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Speaker 2: it was THEO, you know, they all helped. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was scat to be on a third and eight

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Speaker 2: know they were eleven of sixteen on third down. John

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Speaker 2: eleven of sixteen into eighty by any metric, is off

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Speaker 2: the charge like you're possessing the ball, but the off

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Speaker 2: scheduled throws of loose plays of the way coach describes

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Speaker 2: I like that term. I just thought that his ability

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Speaker 2: to see the whole field is just it's a special

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Speaker 2: it's a special quality right now to see it.

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Speaker 1: When you say see the whole field, what do you

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Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you know, they blitzed quite a bit

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Speaker 2: blitz zero, uh, you know, and he had had an

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna scramble my way out of this thing,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't. He had He made the right throw

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Speaker 3: And look and and let's get to the running game now, Baldi.

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Speaker 3: But actually, before you let me bring this up, you

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Speaker 3: mentioned the third downs, which was amazing. The other part

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Speaker 3: Three of three in the red zone, three appearances, three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: you have to be inside the twenty. But again they

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Speaker 3: settle for field goals, and especially in those gold to

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Speaker 3: gold situations, Baldy, to me, the difference is Camp's kataboo.

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Speaker 3: He's always gonna get you two yards. He's never gonna

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Speaker 3: forward to gain extra yard or two. He has just

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Speaker 3: been a complete game changer when the Giants get the

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Speaker 2: He's got unbelievable power, you know, and you see it

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Speaker 2: you know, in this business, John like you do it

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Speaker 2: every single time. You never put the ball in harm's way.

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Speaker 2: And so that's that's what allows them to do when

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Speaker 2: you go three for three like that didn't even you know,

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Speaker 2: the touchdown run by Jackson Dart, I mean, Zach Bonn

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Speaker 2: his job. On the play, he mugs the a gap,

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Speaker 2: he drops and out they're anticipating maybe Dart takes off,

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Speaker 2: and he puts a little move on him, little you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he dead legged him.

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Speaker 3: He did a little fake to the left and then

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a great run.

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Speaker 3: And I think you know, I knew Dart was a

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Speaker 3: it's look, I don't know how sustainable it is with

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Speaker 3: the amount of fits he's taken. He was in concussion

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Speaker 3: protocol again in this game. He cleared it luckily and

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Speaker 3: he was back on the field. But these plays with

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Speaker 3: his legs, it reminds me, frankly, Baldy of what the

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Speaker 3: Giants did with Daniel Jones in twenty twenty two when

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Speaker 3: they were winning these games. And they're doing the same

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Speaker 3: type of things. A lot of design stuff, a lot

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Speaker 3: A lot depend on your running game that it will

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Speaker 3: say called Barkley, now it's camps Kataboo. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: I agree. You know, Daniel Jones had a great year

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Speaker 2: that year running, but he ran thirteen times for fifty

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Speaker 2: eight yards last night. That's probably too many. But you

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Speaker 2: know there was a third and three now where he

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Speaker 2: takes off on the right side. He knows exactly where

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Speaker 2: the sticks are. That's when he just launched himself right

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Speaker 2: into the defender, pick up the first down. Like you

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Speaker 2: love the aggressiveness. At the same time, you know there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of football left to play, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's still eleven more games, so he's got a I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the coaches, I'm sure you know, Brian obviously loves him.

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Speaker 2: Everybody does. But there is a concern there that they

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Speaker 2: Thought they were I thought they were outstanding. You know,

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Speaker 2: they ran two plays last night, john uh just toss crack.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen them lean in to more two tight

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Speaker 2: Lil Jordan stepped up. Wandale had a really great game.

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Speaker 2: It was a great throw. John, It was a great throw.

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Speaker 3: And Bald the final one on the offense here before

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the best compliment you could tell Andrews

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Speaker 3: lets jump to the defensive side of the ball, and

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Speaker 3: Cordo Flott appears to have seized in one the starting

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Speaker 1: He played across from Paulson Todebo.

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Speaker 2: But that individual play probably the biggest individual play of

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then later in the game, Dame belt on

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean you win the turnover battle, Okay,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna win it. Now. You can always score thirty

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Speaker 2: But you know, but that's you know, Dave Belton was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I don't think there's any coincidence.

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Speaker 2: And then I thought they were good on third downs.

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Speaker 1: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,

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Speaker 1: you should talk to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk

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Speaker 1: long care. I'd like to learn about a million team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I knew it could help make sense of your money

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Speaker 1: with Citizens.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the run defense, Baldi, and I think I

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Speaker 3: can speak for all Giant fans when on the first

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Speaker 3: run of the game, Saquon Barkley has his longest run

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Speaker 3: of the season, and we're.

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Speaker 1: All like, oh my god, you gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 3: This guy hasn't done anything all year, and now he's

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Speaker 3: gonna come out on a primetime game. He's gonna run

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Speaker 3: for a billion yards. Baldi is thirty one yards on

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Speaker 3: his first two carries. On his next ten, he just

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Speaker 3: has twenty seven. Why the Giants run defense gets so

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Speaker 3: much better?

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Speaker 2: Uh well, I think a couple of things. One, they

450
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Speaker 2: defeated blocks and they didn't stay blocked, they got off blocks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the first thing. And then I thought they did

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Speaker 2: a good job of attacking the line of scrimmage. They

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Speaker 2: weren't playing a lot of reduced fronts, putting a lot

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Speaker 2: of extra bodies up there, you know. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: one way to stop the running this business. They didn't

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Speaker 2: sell out to do it. They just played better at

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Speaker 2: the point, you know. And and I thought Roy Robinson, Harrison,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to think of not well Dexter obviously,

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Speaker 2: but not Nacho was in there.

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Speaker 1: DJ Davidson, Davidson.

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Speaker 2: Before he got hurt, you know, But I thought they

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Speaker 2: were really good at the point of attack inside and

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's that's where it starts right there.

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Speaker 2: But I thought they got could penetration. I thought they

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Speaker 2: bubbled the offensive line a few times. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there was some of the reason why he had ten

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven was he had probably three of those

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Speaker 2: or maybe four were negative runs.

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Speaker 1: What was the key on those third downs?

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Speaker 3: Then you kind of mentioned earlier, Baldi, what did you

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Speaker 3: really like about what the Giants were doing on third downs,

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Speaker 3: whether from a blitzer perspective, a coverage perspective, some of

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Speaker 3: the stuff that Shane Baulin was dying up in those situations, Well.

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Speaker 2: You know, they died up a couple of pressures. But

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Speaker 2: you know, for the post war I thought they sat

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Speaker 2: on top of the routes. They weren't getting beat on

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Speaker 2: the routes. I mean, whether it's agent, you know, the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks holding the ball a long time. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 2: kind of the Eagles kind of had a simplified approach.

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Speaker 2: They ran a lot of mirrored routes. So it's really okay, Jayalen,

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Speaker 2: you pick a side, one side or the other, and

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Speaker 2: so his eyes are only going to one side. I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, they really saw that, and I think they

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Speaker 2: played some of those inside routes on third down. They

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Speaker 2: ran like third and seven. They're running these five yard

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Speaker 2: stops and Jalen just wasn't going to throw it into

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Speaker 2: the zone look right there, you know, and so they

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Speaker 2: just squeezed it and they sort of deterred him from

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Speaker 2: making the throw. And once he started getting outside the pocket,

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Speaker 2: the chase was.

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Speaker 1: On anything else on defense balling that you want to

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Speaker 1: hit here that I missed.

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Speaker 2: I thought the tackling was good. Thought tackling was was good.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got a j Brown, de Devonte Smith

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Speaker 2: out there. They had, you know, their share catches in

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Speaker 2: the first half. But you didn't see what Wandale did,

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Speaker 2: you know after his catch where you you know, you

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Speaker 2: end up you know, scoring a touchdown or you know,

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Speaker 2: making a long one. I thought they tackled the catch

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Speaker 2: pretty well. Those are two really talented receivers. They pay

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Speaker 2: those guys a lot of money to be to be

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Speaker 2: talented receivers. I thought they did a good job of

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Speaker 2: tackling the catch once they did catch it.

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Speaker 1: Did you see a halftime adjustment? Baldi?

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Speaker 3: Because the Giants give up seventeen points in the first half,

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Speaker 3: and then they pitched a shutout in the second.

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Speaker 1: Hand did they do anything differently or did they just

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Speaker 1: execute back?

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they. I thought they just uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought they got jailing to hold the ball quite

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Speaker 2: a bit, and you know, they got the two turnovers

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Speaker 2: and they got off the field and third down. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think they did a lot differently because there really

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Speaker 2: wasn't a whole lot to change. I mean, they had

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Speaker 2: the drives, they had the one, you know, really good

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Speaker 2: drive where they just completed past down the field, right,

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Speaker 2: But I didn't think they had to like change their

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Speaker 2: coverage or change their front or do anything. A whole

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Speaker 2: lot different is how to play.

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Speaker 1: It better, all right?

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Speaker 3: And then finally, Baldy, before we look ahead real briefly,

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Speaker 3: here ten more days with their Giants at the play again.

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Speaker 3: I want to give the Giants coaching staff some credit

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Speaker 3: because you could tell offensively and I'll swip back to there,

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Speaker 3: because you brought up the secondary and made me think

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Speaker 3: about it. They basically, I think, put a virtual gigantic

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Speaker 3: like bullseye on tie Lee Ringos jersey to start that game.

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Speaker 3: And while Quinney on Mitchell was in and again. Then

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Speaker 3: Adarri Jackson had the coming once Mitchell went out, and

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Speaker 3: you can attack wherever you want.

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Speaker 1: But I thought early in this game.

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Speaker 3: They knew where the weak point of this Eagle defense was,

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Speaker 3: and they didn't care who was on him on any

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Speaker 3: given play. They just attacked that Eagle second cornerback spot

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Speaker 3: again and again and again, knowing that's where their weakness

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Speaker 3: and coverage was.

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Speaker 2: I agree, you had the big throw on the first

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Speaker 2: third down to little Jordan Humphrey. You had one one

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Speaker 2: day beat him across the field, cleanly beat him across

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Speaker 2: the field. Then late in again on the third down

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Speaker 2: to throw into the end zone would set up the

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Speaker 2: final touchdown on the pass interference call right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was on a Dory, I think, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that was that was oh you know.

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Speaker 1: What that was Ringo. You're right, I apologize it was

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Speaker 1: on Ringo.

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Speaker 2: They went after him, you know, in the end zone

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Speaker 2: right there. I thought that it was. They're probably not

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Speaker 2: gonna say anything is they got to play me, of course,

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Speaker 2: in two weeks, but I think they I think it

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Speaker 2: was a big part of the game plan this war.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go, especially early the game, but even

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Speaker 2: late in the game, you know, with the interference in

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Speaker 2: the end zone.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bolo was wrapping up here.

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Speaker 3: Giants now with two and four, I'm sure they're kicking

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Speaker 3: themselves for that late loss of the Cowboys, the five

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Speaker 3: K turnovers. So the Saints you can be sending here

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Speaker 3: at five hundred with with the world in front of you,

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Speaker 3: but two and four, you know, you got tough games

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Speaker 3: coming up as a tough schedule, but you got to

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Speaker 3: feel good about yourself. You got the Broncos coming up

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Speaker 3: next week. They have to travel to London, I believe,

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Speaker 3: to take on the Jets on Sunday morning. I know

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Speaker 3: a long way to go before that game is played,

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Speaker 3: but I know you've watched the Broncos this year. What

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Speaker 3: kind of challenges are they going to pose the Giants

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Speaker 3: when they play them in ten days?

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Speaker 2: Well, they have a They lead the league right now

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Speaker 2: in sacks.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They led the league in sacks a year ago. They've

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Speaker 2: got two guys in uh, you know, in Jonathan Cooper

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Speaker 2: and Nick Benito. They're excellent inside. They play a five

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Speaker 2: man front. They've got a bunch of good covered guys.

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Speaker 2: They mixed, they play a lot of different coverages in

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Speaker 2: the back, and they can confuse quarterbacks, but it all

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Speaker 2: starts with the pressure up front.

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Speaker 3: And Brandon Allen, by the way, is probably one of

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Speaker 3: the better defensive lineman. Nobody talks about.

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Speaker 2: Well Zach Allen. You know, I think he led to

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Speaker 2: Zach Allen kids, sorry ninety nine, you know where he is.

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Speaker 2: But they they gave the Eagles a really hard time.

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Speaker 2: They shut him out in the fourth quarter last week,

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Speaker 2: and and then bow Knicks got hot. And Courtland Sutton's

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Speaker 2: the number one receiver, like you know, when they're when

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Speaker 2: they need a third down converse and they need a

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Speaker 2: big play, it's going to Courtland Sutton. They they know

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Speaker 2: that they have started the same five offensive lineman John

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Speaker 2: eighteen games last year, including the playoffs, in every game

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Speaker 2: this year, so they have had stability up front and

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Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback. JK. Dobbins has given him a good

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Speaker 2: punch and good lift, you know at the tailback position.

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Speaker 2: And bo Knicks is you know, he's a lot like

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dark. He's very mobile. He really creates a lot

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Speaker 2: of things on the move. He does create his share

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Speaker 2: of loose plays. He got hot in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: against the Eagles, you know, and they grove that wave,

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Speaker 2: but they kind of I think offensively, they kind of

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Speaker 2: mirror each other a little bit. The young quarterbacks, good

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Speaker 2: good offensive lines, and then they r on the quarterback

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Speaker 2: to make a lot of plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that Bronco offensive one. I think they've

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Speaker 3: allowed the lowest pressure rate in the league so far

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Speaker 3: this year, and they did the same last year. They've

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Speaker 3: been wonderful. And then guys like Patrick Shirtan in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: They have some really really good players.

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Speaker 1: Baldy, enjoy your weekend the football. What game they have

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Speaker 1: this weekend? Where are you going?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing Texas OU tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Only the red River game.

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Speaker 2: Red River Rivalry tomorrow, kind of get an advanced look

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Speaker 2: at some of the talent in that game. And then

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Speaker 2: I'm doing the Raiders game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Wow combination. Baldi, Enjoy your ball filled weekend. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun, man.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a lot of fun. John looking forward

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Speaker 2: to it, man.

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Speaker 3: you set your videos, they'll be there check them out,

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