1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian, the guy at the Susuho ended up 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: saying to me, Hey, you know, I guess I gotta 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: go find a mechanic that can work on it. And 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I said, well, I can work on it. I just 5 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: can't get works. You can always get what the Car 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Doctor and the last mechanic he took it to two 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: years ago. Somehow finnailed it through inspection, and I kind 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: of think I know what he did. He probably cleared 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the coach man. He was able to take it the 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: state inspection in New Jersey. Yeah, it's a workaround. You 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: can cheat the system and it happens. It works. Welcome 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: call in the garage. Orders are open, but I am 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: here to take your quels at eight five, five six, 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: and now he Ronny, Hey, hey, Ronning inning in the 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here just wound up and ready to go 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: this hour. You know, our our first guests, and we're 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna hit it right at the top. Of the hour 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: here because we've got a lot to cover this hour. 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of information for you today about 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: cars and diagnostics, and we were trying to drive home 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: the point about diagnosing cars and what it takes and 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: some of the different avenues and some of the different 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: techniques and some of the different things that are available 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: both the consumers and professional repair shops out there. And 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: our our first guest right here at the top is 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: I have to tell you how this story came about. 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: I went to a seminar three weeks ago. Yep, still 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: go to seminar. Still think it's part of the process. 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: You've got to do it, um every month. It's just 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: you know, ongoing training, like like the A s C 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: certification says, and um, you know you've got to go 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: and get your training every month. And there's always something 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: new to learn. No matter how much you think you know, 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: you don't know everything. And the subject of this month's 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: seminar that I took locally was about computer flash and 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it I've seen and I always learned 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: something new here in there. And there was some new 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: equipment I needed to purchase to keep the shop up 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: to date and I reached out to the company that 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: provides that equipment, the mongoose cables and flashing equipment, Drew 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Technologies out in um uh An Arbor, Michigan. And a 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: funny story when I when I called the one night, 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: it was the end of the day and I found 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: some five minutes carve out of my day. And I 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: talked to this next gentleman by the name of Hugh 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Atkins from Drew Technologies, and um, I said, you know 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: this guy just Drew, I said, I said, Hugh, I'm sorry. 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I said, Hugh, you just you've got a lot of 53 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: information in your head and the back of my mind, 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know what, Let's put this guy on 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: radio because I bet he can just really tell a 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: good tale of what it takes to fixed cars. And 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: I said, do you ever listen to radio? And he 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: said yeah, And I said you ever hear the car doctor? 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: He goes sure, And I said, well guess what, and 60 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: here we are, So let me get this guy in 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: the door, real equipment. Let's get this interview rolling. Hugh Atkins, 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Drew Technologies, welcome to boards are. UM, let's talk a 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: little bit like it was our phone conversation and Tuesday 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: this week passed about four. You know, Drew Technologies is 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: known for a lot of things, and we can cover 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: what you guys were all about. Maybe we should start 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: it there. You what is Drew Technologies? Tell us a 68 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: little bit about that and what do you guys knowing 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: what do you bring to the industry which is an 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: awful lot. It's hard to condense and just one interview, 71 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure sure. Yeah. Drew Tech started as a vehicle 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: communication cult and consultancy back in the day. And this 73 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: was back in the say X and just prior timeframe 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: when o b D was coming on board. So there 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of um that there were you know, 76 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: modules already in the car. That the direction was obviously 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: that that there were going to be more and more 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: modules in the car and how to get them to 79 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: talk and then talking the right way so that O 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: b D, you know, with satisfy the O b D 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: requirements was a big topic and UM four came up. 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: It was actually a derivative of what's called r P 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: twelve ten UM which is for the heavy truck industry 84 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: and it's it's what it really is is a way 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: for a computer to talk to the device a device, 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: and the device act only acts like a translator. So 87 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the application that's on the computer which says diagnostics are reprogramming, 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: talks in the same way to the device. That way, 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: you can have one device and work with all the 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: O E N applications and then that device knows how 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: to translate what the application said to the car. So 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: it basically, you guys are providing the means for the 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: auto repair industry at O E O E M you know, 94 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: dealer and independent repair shop level, so that we can 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: talk to car computers and either do diagnostics or reflashing, 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: installing new software. Correct. That's right, and that's really all 97 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: the devices. It's a translator device. The e PA back 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: in the day wanted a shop to be able to 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: UH to reprogram cars. They didn't think it was fair 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: that only the O E could do that, so it 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: should be an independent repair functions. So it had to 102 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: be cheap, so they couldn't have independent replace independent repair 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: shop many times can't afford you know, UH, custom device 104 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: from every O E M. So if they had one 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: device and all the applications could speak to that device 106 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: and it could translate their on wow, that could be done. 107 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: That's something that's accessible by the independent repair and that's 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: really the heart of right. You're you're you're helping provide 109 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: and give capability for an independent shop. If they have 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: a J four tool that meets proper protocol, they can 111 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: they can do what the dealer of the choice does 112 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: at that point correct, exactly right. And Drew Tech was 113 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: around in those days and it was a part of 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: the J Committee at Society of Automotive Engineers and still 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: is by the way, and um so so we were there, 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: we could you know, we knew the rules right. And 117 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: it was also I don't know if you ever heard 118 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: of card act, but the back the back end of 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: that is data acquisition. So we could also make a 120 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: box where engineers at the o e M could actually 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: make their own little program and take a ton of 122 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: data in the car, which you know, back in the 123 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: day you have had to have many computers to do that. 124 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: To have one thing that did that that was nice too. 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: So um and and so so we we know the rules, 126 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: we know the protocols, and we know a lot about 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: the o e M s because we worked with them, 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: we worked them as a consultancy. And still do we 129 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: we make dealer tools for some of them, and write 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: spects for some others, etcetera, etcetera. Now, now J thirty four, 131 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: that is a correct me if I'm wrong, A standard 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: written by the Society of Automotive Engineers say that says 133 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: we need a device that will do this whatever that 134 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: protocol is, and it has to be available to the independence. 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Is the J four tool the same as the car 136 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: deck or the two separate test devices, But the car 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: deck is is a version. It's a universal J nothing 138 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: more than the lane which that the computer talks to 139 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: the device in right, and then the device acts like 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: a translator and it translates whatever the computer told it. 141 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: And you know translator is it's important to know that language. 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: And that's the same no matter what that's that's in 143 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: a specification and you know it either is or is 144 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: not that. But then your device has to know how 145 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: to talk to a car and since they all do 146 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: that a little bit differently. So it's it if I 147 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: if the computer asked you to go get a glass 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: of water, right, um, you might go to the to 149 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: the tab water. You might go to the faucet, poured 150 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: glass of water and bring it back. Be real happy. 151 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: On the other hand, you can also obey the command 152 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: by going to the lake scooping up some water and 153 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: bringing a glass of lake water, and then you really 154 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't want it, right, So so that you know, different 155 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: devices will have different behaviors. And because we've been around 156 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: a long time, we've learned from the stakes we've maybe 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: we've learned from the stakes the o eas made or 158 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the o ees have made, and we we work with UH, 159 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the Society of Automotive Engineers, we can really bring a 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: very good, solid device. So the j protocol standardizes everything. 161 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: It makes sure that that glass of water always comes 162 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: from the tap and it's recognizable as tap water. To 163 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: to to create a standard, we've created a UH we've 164 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: leveled the playing field, so to speak, kind of it 165 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: what the level of the playing field in the way 166 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: which the computer will talk to the device. But the 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: device misunderstands that and it goes to the lake instead, 168 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: then you're getting kind of a different product, and you've 169 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: and you've got problems. So let me paint the scenario. 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: Suppose a repair shop does a lot of Ford vehicles, 171 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: and their choice is they want to purchase either the 172 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: Ford factory tool the dealer level tool, the Ford v 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: C M two or they want to do it via 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: J four. Can they substitute one for the other. Is 175 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: that how this works? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. The 176 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: only thing that's federally required right now, and all oms 177 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: do do this. They have engine and transmission reprogramming available 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: now because of some right to repair movements and also 179 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: laws that have already passed UM, all the o ums 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: will have will be required to you to deliver their diagnostics. 181 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Bi directional controls are actuators and and and the same 182 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: diagnostics as the dealers use, as well as other information 183 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: to I t sp s and so forth. Right now, 184 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: you're finding some o ems do it, and some o 185 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: ms are still waiting till the end. Right, It depends 186 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: on the personality of that open and it's it's it's 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting to note that I think one of the 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: manufacturers that provides a very good and fair amount of 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: information easily is Toyota, right. I mean, they seem to 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: do and you know what their car sales are through 191 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the roof. So isn't that interesting that if independent repair 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: shops have an easier time to work on it, they 193 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: sell more cars. What a concept? Um, well, I think 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: what one of the things they found and they they 195 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: entered into this pretty leon believe it or not, asked 196 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: BMW and I think, what, Well, you know what the 197 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: theory is is, Hey, if a ten year old car 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: looks good people and people are looking for a new car, 199 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: people aren't going to substitute an old car with a 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: new car. They're gonna look around and say, you know what, 201 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I want my car to last like that one did, 202 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: and they're going to go to that O E M. 203 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a really smart move on their part 204 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: and it keeps it keeps them in business, and it 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: keeps return customers coming back. Hey, Drew, the clock is 206 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna take us. But let me just ask real quick. 207 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: There's so much to cover here. Is there a place 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: the listeners, repair shops, consumers, just you know, regular folks 209 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: or maybe d I wires. Is there a website you 210 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: guys have they can go and learn more about JO 211 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: and what's involved there as well as Drew Technologies product. Yeah, 212 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: there is. They're our website and it has all has 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: one oh one you can learn about it. You can 214 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: also call us, but we're at www Drew Tech d 215 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: R W E t E c H dot com. And 216 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: another thing that's really important when you when you're looking 217 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: for a device is the education to use it because 218 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: you're using GMS application and that's different from say BMW is, 219 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: which is different from Toyota's right, Um, we have that's 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: on your website, right, it's on our website and also 221 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: in an application that we have that it's easy to navigate, 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: but it will tell you about the OE site. It 223 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: will tell you about their subscription, what does it have 224 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: for you, how much it costs, how long it left. 225 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: That way you can make that value judgment about keeping 226 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: that job that's in front of you in your shop, 227 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: which is gives you the profit and job control, right? 228 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Or should you send it out? And should you you know, 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: really put your your time and effort into things that 230 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: you can affect. Is that available as a link? Q? 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Is there a way you can email me that link 232 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: and I can post it on our Facebook page for 233 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: the listeners so they can find it easier. Yeah, I 234 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: can do that. You've got my email? Right? If not, 235 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: you know, you know, shoot shoot me that link via 236 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: email and I'll post it up on the Facebook page 237 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: and um, that way they can find information because, like 238 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I said, there's so much here. We're gonna have you back, 239 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: um again. I think we're gonna make a radio star 240 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: out of your buddy, because there's there's an awful lot 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: of information here and we just can't cover it in 242 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: one segment. So um, let's yeah, and it's car stuff too, Yeah, 243 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: it's so let's leave it there, Drew tech dot com 244 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: that's the website, correct, yea cool beans. Hey here, listen, 245 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: you gotta have a good rest of the afternoon. Send 246 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: me that link and we'll be talking again real soon. 247 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm run an any in the Car Doctor. We are 248 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: back right after this. 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There's a messaging service hooked up to that. 257 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: And asked Harry, our executive producer, we'll call you back 258 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: and talk to you and get you up here on 259 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: cue so we can discuss your problem and solve it 260 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: for you, because that's what this radio shows all about. 261 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of solving problems, Let's get over and talk to 262 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: Brad from Pennsylvania GMC and some questions about trans fluid. Brad, 263 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? 264 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Thanks n welcome. I listened to you on podcast and 265 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: great service you provide. Thank you, sir. How can I 266 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: help you? My wife and I have a thirty one 267 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: ft camper and UH we bought two thousand ten g 268 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: MC Savannah one time got about he's got ninety seven 269 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it solid UH frame um based off 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: the last vehicle I bought, the TOE. I learned from 271 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: my mistakes, so I went over this one with pretty 272 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: to comb at least the best I could. And now, 273 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: my previous vehicle was a seven point three UH Diesel 274 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: F two fifty, and I had some transmission overheating problems 275 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: and I was going to put synthetic transmission fluid and that, 276 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and I was told not to do that because it 277 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: would clean the transmission and cause problems. But somebody else 278 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: told me that that's not necessarily the case, and I 279 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: was thinking about doing that with h with the Savannah 280 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: um and I'm not sure. I'm not sure what to do. 281 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: One out of parts Guy tells me one thing, and 282 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: one out of parts Sky tells me something else. Okay, 283 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: let's let's let's look at it like this. Trans fluid 284 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: is a very high detergent fluid. Okay. A matter of fact. 285 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: In the old days, back when when when I first 286 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: started repairing cars, when dirt was invented, when we used 287 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: to do re rings in the shop, where we would 288 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: strip the engine blocked down, bear into in the frame 289 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: and you know, pull the crank, pull the pistons and 290 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: take a dingle Berry hone and I'm dating myself here, 291 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: and and honing the block and breaking the glaze and 292 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: all the crazy things we used to do. When we 293 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: used to have to wash the cylinder walls, we would 294 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: take a rag, soak it and trans fluid and scrub 295 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: it inside the cylinder walls and we would wipe all 296 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the grid away, and then we would do a final 297 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: clean up with just soap and water because that's what 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: you did. But trans fluid really helps clean away contaminate. 299 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: It's it's a very high detergent type of fluid. So 300 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the problem is is transmissions age and operate, they build 301 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: up a varnish. They build it. You can think of 302 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: it as a shellac or or or a varnish. It's 303 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: it's it's just a crusty formation in areas of the transmission. 304 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: So now you take out the old tired fluid and 305 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: you put in this fresh fluid that's got a very 306 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: good detergency to it, and the problem becomes they can 307 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: break down that varnish and cause particulate to go where 308 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: it's not supposed to and cause a trans problem. And 309 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: that's regardless of whether it's synthetic or conventional or anything 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: in between. So the first question is has the fluid 311 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: ever been changed in this d mile transmission? Yeah? It was. 312 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: It was the amazoned by a beer distributor before UM 313 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: and it had all the service records, so it was 314 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: changed at the mark. Okay, So then I would change 315 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: it again and as long as the fluid condition is good. 316 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Here's my way of thinking, all right, is I want 317 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: to know if this trans is gonna fail before I 318 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: hook up the thirty one ft motor home or trailer 319 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: to it and tow and I'm somewhere between here and 320 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: and and east jibib All right, I would change the fluid. 321 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Be mindful of the transmission, be aware of what it does, 322 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: see how it reacts. Whether you do conventional or synthetic 323 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Synthetic is gonna help control heat better, but 324 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: it's also much more pricey. But I'm still going to 325 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: tell you to change it on a regular basis because 326 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: it's cheaper to change fluid than a transmission. And when 327 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: you're towing a motor home, there is no margin of error. Heck, 328 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: getting a flat tire when you're towing the motor home 329 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: is a major undertaking. So a trans failure and you're 330 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere, that's a whole another animal. 331 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you to change the fluid. Drive 332 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle around town for a month or so, use 333 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: it as an everyday vehicle if you can. And if 334 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: you have no problem, hey, I think you're good and 335 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: you're a step ahead of the curve. If you do 336 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: have a problem, let's deal with it now. While you're 337 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: home at home base. You can find a mechanic. You 338 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: can find your guy, get him to fix it for you. 339 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: When you're not out in the middle of the woods 340 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: trying to find somebody to you know, piece me a 341 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: transmission together from my from my GMC Savannah. And then 342 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: if you want to use synthetic, if you want to 343 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: change it again, hey, I'm on all for that. You know. 344 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: One funny thought, bread is we make all these synthetic 345 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: oils and we can make engines go three four hundred 346 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Transmissions are still the weak link in the 347 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: majority of cars. And you know, unless you're changing fluid 348 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: on a regular basis and taking care of it a 349 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: hundred hundred and twenty thousand, hundred thirty thousand, and every 350 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: once in a while somebody will get two hundred thousand 351 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: out of it and you'll ask him do you ever 352 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: change the fluid, and they'll say no, Well, you know what, 353 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: that's the exception, because the majority of time studies show 354 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: that if you maintain the transmission, you're gonna get longer 355 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: out of it. My point is, transits are still the 356 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: fragile component, and it's just so much easier to service 357 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: fluid and keep an eye on it then wait for 358 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: the problem to happen. So in your case, if it 359 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: was changed once I say change it again, and let's 360 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: just uh and by the way, do a complete exchange. 361 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Do some kind of a fluid exchange. Get it all 362 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: out so that you're putting all fresh and conventional, you know, 363 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: all fresh convention. We're synthetic in there, and you're not 364 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: leaving any dirty contaminant behind it. And let's let's watch it. 365 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Good lucky Brad, I mean, I, hey, 366 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: make out and I'm here if you need me, I'll 367 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: be glad to do what I can for you. Hey. 368 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Coming up next Parlan Siegel, some answers to what scancel 369 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: should I buy myself? Or perhaps you're looking for something 370 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: for the holidays. Coming up, all that and so much more, 371 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm modinating in the card offer. Don't go away. We're 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: back right after this. Back we're on any of the 373 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: car doctor here. You know, it's it's an ongoing conversation. 374 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: It seems one of the hottest topics that we always 375 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: talk about here on the car doctors that have scan tools, 376 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: both for professionals consumers, and you know, everybody just needs 377 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: a scan tool. I think it's become the case where 378 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: it should be one in every glove compartment, Chicken in 379 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: every pot and a scan tool and every glove compartment. 380 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: It really has come down to that. And we recently 381 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: received a letter, uh an email from Ken and he 382 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: wanted to know he specifically he was asking about the 383 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: X four thirty one launch, about bidirectional controls and versus 384 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: one of the competitors. And you know, we started talking 385 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: about it, Harlan Siegel and I that's what we've got 386 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: on the phone obviously, and UM, I said, you know what, Harlan, 387 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: just come on upon Aaron, let's talk about this because, uh, 388 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: it's You've always got so much information. And I have 389 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: to say that about him, This next gentleman just always 390 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: has so much information. I'm amazed that, uh, you know, 391 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: we can squeeze it all in and not run out 392 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: of things. And he's always got something to say and 393 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: it always makes sense to him. So, without any further Ado, 394 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: Harland Siegel launch launch tech dot Com. Welcome, sir, How 395 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: are you good? Ron, glad to be here. How are 396 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: you all right? Sir? Actually should say it's launched tech 397 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: USA dot com. Yeah, let me correct myself. UM, let's 398 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the X four the pad, 399 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: one of the pad to pick up preference and talk 400 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: about bi directional controls. What is the what are those? 401 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: You know? Tell us the process there? What are those 402 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: for the listeners? And uh, why are they so important? Yeah, 403 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a'sually a great question. We get that an 404 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: awful lot. So when you go into the pro line 405 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: scan tool professional line scan tool, that is a capability 406 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: that has added called bidirectional additional additionally also relearns, resets 407 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: and so forth, And I'm bidirectional. It's when you're actually 408 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: making a a actual way to do its action through 409 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: the skin tool versus through the vehicle. For example, you 410 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: know you're in the vehicle, you want to make the 411 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: driver's window go up and down. You simply press the 412 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: switch up or down. But oftentimes if that doesn't work, 413 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: the technician is unaware. Is that the motor, is that 414 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the switch, is that the wiring? Is it something on 415 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: the network? Is that the body control module? So with 416 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: a bidirectional capable scan tool, we're able to manipulate and 417 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: make and drive that window motor going up or down, 418 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: and bypassing that switch and all of its wiring by 419 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: direct communication to the body control module. In this particular case, 420 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: or door module. So it's it's a it's a it's 421 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: truly a diagnostic tool that's required at all levels today. 422 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's it's really, you know, part 423 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: of the process now that you have to have this. 424 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: I'll go one step further. You've got a vehicle evaporative 425 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: emissions leak. Let's take a four or forty two small 426 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: evapp leak. I mean, it's as common as the sun 427 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: is gonna come up tomorrow. What happens everywhere, and part 428 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: of that diagnostic is inducing smoke into the system. And 429 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: you need a scan tool that can close the vent 430 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: and that's a bidirectional control. You would bring it up 431 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: on the launch she would you know, close the vent 432 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: and smoke it and is the system leaking and so forth. 433 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: It's it's part of the process. It's it's just part 434 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: of the diagnostics. And that's what I think a lot 435 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: of the scan tool manufacturers other than Launch are failing 436 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: to see, because I have to say that so far, 437 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: the launch tools have not let me down in anything 438 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: I've tried to they I'll tell you a quick story. 439 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: We we you know, we're using the Launch some of 440 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: the others and we're we're always testing and checking for manufacturers. 441 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: And one of the guys across the tracks from US 442 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: has the new snap on. He just changed the oil 443 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: on a two thousand and eleven out and it was 444 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: time to do the oil light reset. You couldn't do it. 445 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: And I'm asking what I'm saying, why is the guy 446 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: with the ten thousand dollar tool incapable of resetting the 447 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: oil change light? And he's got to come to the 448 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: guy with the I don't know what's the four thirty 449 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: one Harlan three grand right, and you know why, why 450 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: are you coming to the guy with the tool to 451 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: cost a third of the price to do an oil 452 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: light reset? And it works? And you know, one of 453 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: the things that really annoys me is the industry looks 454 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: at price and says the most expensive has to work, 455 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and it doesn't. And maybe that's the way we're brought 456 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: up in this country. I'm not sure, but it seems 457 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: that launch to a large degree. Um. I don't know 458 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: if I'm saying this right and if it's fair, but 459 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: I think you're kind of like the Rodney danger Field 460 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: of scan tools. Nobody respects you, yet everybody misses over 461 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: the fact that your stuff works all the time. UM, 462 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: fair statement. Uh yeah, Uh, well, you know I can 463 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: say that over the years, uh we we certainly have 464 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: gained gained that reputation and recognition by by the mere 465 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: fact of of success, uh success in terms of experiences 466 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: by the technician, just like it simply worked for you. Right. 467 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: I caught somebody, I'll tell you a quick story. I 468 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: cut somebody at a seminar and they were doing a 469 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: scan tool shootout and they're talking about individual scan tools. 470 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: And all the companies got up and everybody talked about 471 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: their product, and you know, all of them. It was 472 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: it was OTC, it was snap On. Uh. There was 473 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: a couple other manufacturers there, and they all kind of 474 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: went through their drill and I raised my hand at 475 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: the end and I said, so, who can do a 476 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: throttle body minimum ideal relearn on a two thousand five 477 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: accurate m d X. Nobody could do it? And I 478 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: said why not? And they said, well, that's you know, 479 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: that's proprietary. Yeah, launch does it? Um, you know, And 480 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: I kind of caught everybody with their jaws on the 481 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: ground and and to that point, how are you guys 482 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: doing that, harlan? You know, tell us the backstory because 483 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: you're going through licensing, you're going through a lot of 484 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: things to bring that information up to maintain the tool 485 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: and and you know there's there's a process there isn't there. Yeah, yeah, 486 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: there is and and and I must say some of 487 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: that processes uh let's call it the magic sauce. It's 488 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Grandma's recipe, you know. Yeah, sure, but yeah, but but 489 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: it will say you know, just if you listen, it's 490 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: a little bit on on what goes on. You know, 491 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's an organization called E t I. 492 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Uh you know that that that makes some of the 493 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: data available and so forth. And but still you know 494 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it at the end of the day. 495 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, we have engineers here in this country that 496 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: we actually go to the auctions and we actually grabbed 497 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle and map it on out. It's quite amazing 498 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: when you see this being done where we uh we 499 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: we take a look at the data that comes out 500 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: that's actually the code. You know. It's funny you were 501 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: talking earlier about a hundred million lines of code in 502 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: the in the vehicle, right, Well, I mean so you 503 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: could be there a while so uh so, so we 504 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: have our engineers have developed a method and where we 505 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: look at that data and then we we do what's 506 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: called creation of a handshake. So for example, if we 507 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: if we know that you know, of that hundred million 508 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: lines of data and code which one is you know 509 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: makes the fuel gauge go from empty to full, well 510 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: we will throw what well a request to it, and 511 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: we may fail a couple of times, do we get 512 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: it right? And then we'll go, oh, there it is, 513 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: and we and it's all in hexadecimal, so maybe you know, 514 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: you know alfha, you know Hotel zero one one, you know, right, yeah, yeah, 515 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: and we'll throw the code at it and then and 516 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: then there the gauge will sweep and then we simply documented. 517 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of this stuff is you know, it's 518 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: very time consuming and and and also I must say 519 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: ron as a result, you know what, there's nothing perfect. 520 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: There isn't any scan pool perfect out there, you know, 521 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: and and and and and uh and that's why you 522 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: know on all of them they have holes today, but 523 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: we have ways which we fill the holes through feedback 524 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: and these sources of things. Well, you know what your 525 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: your tool to that point, let's spend a minute on 526 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: this real quick, um, one of the things I've noticed 527 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: when because you know, it's no secret we're field testing 528 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and looking at your tools all the time. For you, Um, 529 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: if I have a problem, you know what it's. It's 530 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody on the phone. It gets documented 531 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: and a very short period of time, depending on the problem. Heck, 532 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: I've had cases where I've called up, this doesn't work. 533 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Did you do the latest download today? No? You know, 534 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: I forgot to. It's in the download and I download 535 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: is standing there in the shop, and now the tool 536 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: works on that particular component, on that particular problem whatever 537 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: I was trying to solve. And you know, you guys 538 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: make it look easy, which is mind boggling to me 539 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: because I haven't figured out why everybody else doesn't pick 540 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: up on it. You know, you just downloaded it, we 541 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: download it off the net, you send it to us 542 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: and and we're done. And you know that really just 543 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: makes it simple. And that's one of the things I 544 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: really enjoy about the product. Talk about, real quick, the 545 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: feedback button. I want you to just real quick, give 546 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: me a minute on that, Harland, talk about the feedback 547 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: button on the on the pad too, so so ron 548 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: like like an experience, so that you may have had 549 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: that maybe I mean or any technician you want it. 550 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: You're looking for this on a particular vehicle and it 551 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: may not be there, or you try to do an 552 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: activation or bidirectional and for whatever reason on that your make, 553 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: model and size, it just it just doesn't work. I mean, 554 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: it happened on ol toos even O E level tools, 555 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: but how we address it is quite different. So what 556 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: we do is we have a feature on all of 557 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: our Android pro line tools called Feedback, and what it 558 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: does is it captures all of the code UH and 559 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: all of the processes that you that you went that 560 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: day to hook up to that car, and then it 561 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: has a text box where you simply type in Windows 562 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: didn't go up and down or wherever, or it didn't 563 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: commute here, whatever the experience may be, and it actually 564 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: goes to engineering. You simply hit the submit button. It 565 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: goes to engineering, and we journally will have a fix 566 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: UH in less than thirty days. And that's why you know, 567 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: we had weekly updates on on our scantl lots of 568 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: them every week as a result. Tell me about Golo 569 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: real quick, dirty seconds, what's and then I gotta go Yeah. 570 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: The latest thing with GOLO is it's it's it's uh, 571 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: it's going leaps and bounds and it's going crazy out there. Uh. 572 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Listeners want to check it on out by going to 573 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: uh www dot GOL g O l O car Care 574 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: dot com or one word that's a video there. But 575 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: it's telematics for the aftermarket. It's great for the car 576 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: owner where the car owner gets to save money by 577 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: not always happen to go back to the shop for 578 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, reading codes, clearing codes and looking at data. 579 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: And it's also can save the money in terms of 580 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: getting specials and announcements on discounts and promotions. And for 581 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: the shop it gives them a connected car experience. Right, Okay, 582 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: listen to seconds. I want to buy a handheld scan 583 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: tool for Christmas. What do I want? Well, you know, 584 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: if you look for a stocking stuffer. One of the 585 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: nice cool things that we just came out with, it's 586 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: called the Easy Diet two point oh. We have two 587 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: versions with generic O B D two and then a 588 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: D with any two car lines. One device now works 589 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: with Apple or Android. Easy Diet is downloadable today on 590 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Google Play and on the Apple Store. Great stocking stuffers 591 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: and it's it actually does too much on the vehicle. Uh. 592 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: And then you can go from there from our CRP 593 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: that you've mentioned so many times before and up from there. 594 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Perfect And they can find all of this at launch 595 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: tech USA dot com. Right. Absolutely, absolutely, we just we did. 596 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Our website is easy to navigate. You can have fun 597 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: with it. Perfect, Harlan, Always a pleasure, sir. We're gonna 598 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: get you back again real soon. Good luck in your travels, 599 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking again in the near in the 600 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: near future. I'm Marnading the car doctor. We are back 601 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back. We're knee of the 602 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: card Ocrate zero nine zero zero here to take your calls. 603 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Julie Kansas City for 604 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Focus in some trans issues. Julie, how can I help 605 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: you today? Hi? Thanks for talking to me. Um So. 606 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: I bought a brand new off a Lot two thousand 607 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: fourteen Ford Focus last September, and within the last month 608 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: or so, it kind of feels like the training flipping 609 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in my car a little. So it's just when I 610 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: come to a complete stop and then I start to accelerate, 611 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: it kind of stutters a little bit. So I took 612 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: it back to the other ship and they were like, well, 613 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: you need a new clutch, and I'm like, well, I 614 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: have a it's it's an automatic car. But he was 615 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: telling me that the way they build the transmissions now 616 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: is that it's technically manual on the inside and in 617 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: the car kind of shifts itself. I guess what you 618 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: actually have is you actually have the DPS six six 619 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: speed transmission. Um And there's a campaign out there for 620 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Clutch Shutter where they're having issues with the transmission, and 621 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: it's it's not so much that it's a clutch, but 622 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: it's just the design of the trans and the material 623 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: they used the first go around had their issues and 624 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: it's just chattering and shuttering and not making for a 625 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: smooth operation. But it's it's it's all under warranty right there, 626 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: not charging you for anything. Yeah, No, it's just you know, 627 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: I just thought I had a ninety camera before this 628 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: and with three miles, and I did a lot of 629 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: the work myself on it. So I was just like, 630 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: all right, I'll get this new car, you know, I 631 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: don't got to worry about anything for a while. And 632 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: now the guy is telling me, well, this is a 633 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: reoccurring problem, and you know it could happen again, if 634 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: not a number of times. So I just kind of 635 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: wanted to know what you think about that, and then 636 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think that yeah, oh yeah, And I 637 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: think the straight answer is I think it's a problem 638 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: they didn't see coming. Fortunately, you know, was the last 639 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: model year that it's involved. It's actually two thousand eleven 640 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: through fourteen. Did you get the dealer level? Did you 641 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: dealer letter? Did you get the information from Ford? Um that? 642 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: All right? I would tell you to call Ford Motor Company, 643 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: go over the dealer's head. Uh, there is a letter 644 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: out there that you should be receiving if you haven't 645 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: received it already, and uh, it's gonna come to you, 646 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna talk about a S M T clutch 647 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: shutter and extended warranty on all of this and just 648 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing to make the problem correct. And it's 649 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the vehicles, a lot of the focuses 650 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: are having this particular problem with that particular trans It's unfortunate. 651 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: I can't I can't sugarcoat it. Uh, you know what, 652 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: it's the roll of the dice. I can tell you 653 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: that the difference though between that camera. You know what, 654 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: you might have had this, You might have had like 655 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: problem with issues like this just as well. So uh uh, 656 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, just don't blame it on that you bought 657 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: a Ford. It just happens to be something you got 658 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: stuck with on a newer car. Keep me posted, Julie, 659 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: let me know how you make up. But by all means, 660 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: get your hands on that letter. I'm running any in 661 00:33:38,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back 662 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: right needing in the car doctor here, let me do 663 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of housekeeping. 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There's 673 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: more information about this show at Car Doctors show dot com, 674 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: as well as if you go down the left side 675 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: of Car Doctors Show dot com. That page you'll find 676 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: tune in dot com, which has a list of affiliates 677 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: or a partial list of affiliates. You can also find 678 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: podcasts and the ability to subscribe to podcast at iHeart 679 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: dot com and iTunes dot com. And you know, obviously 680 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: you can click on you can go to our podcast 681 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: page and download podcasts right from there if you want 682 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: to do it manually as well. If need me during 683 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: the week, it's Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. 684 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: Sam an email, I'll be glad to talk to you. 685 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: Will help solve your problem, just like this gentleman here. 686 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Dave right In writes in Hey Ron, Love the Show, 687 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Toyota rav four. I've got an oil 688 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: consumption problem. Had Toyota test that. They say it doesn't 689 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: meet the requirement or the amount for any action, but 690 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: it's not good. I just did an oil change and 691 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: it's down two and a half quarts. I checked the 692 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: oil more now than I do in any of my 693 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: other vehicles, because I know there's a potential problem. What 694 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: can I do? Dave listen, I know it's not good, 695 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: and it's funny that Toyota can't come up with a 696 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: better solution for this. They do have a speck. I 697 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: think it's a court in a thousand miles is acceptable, 698 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: So you know how far off that mark were you? 699 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: If it's a court, I think they've got to look 700 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: at that and say, you know, come on, guys, uh, 701 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm so close to the line. Where can 702 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: you help me here? Because the fix for this is 703 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: also not really a great one, in that they're pulling 704 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: pistons out of the cylinders in the in the dealership. 705 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: Engine block stays in the bay in the in the vehicle, 706 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: and they're doing a rering right there in the bed, 707 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: and um, that's the fix, and it's it's kind of interesting. 708 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: I think part of it is that they've got such 709 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: a problem, so widespread over so many vehicles that there 710 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: isn't a better solution available at this particular point. So 711 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: the best thing I can tell you to do is 712 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the oil level. Talk to Toyota, 713 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: see if there's any leeway, tell him make make me happy. 714 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm a Toyota customer. And if not, well there's always Ford' 715 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: Chevy or Chrysler. Maybe not the christ that we'll talk 716 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: about that in the future. I'm not anating the car 717 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: doctor until the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 718 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: See you