1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, January thirteenth, twenty 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: twenty two, Season seventeen, episode number ninety seven. Welcome to 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break, live from s WBC 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star. We've got a lot to 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: get into. We're getting you guys ready for Cowboys versus 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. That happens this Sunday, three thirty pm 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: at AT and T STADI will be joined in a 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: little bit in the second segment by Bucky Brooks NFL Network. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: He'll help us break down the San Francisco defense versus 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Dallas offense. But let's get this thing started, and it 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: give me a ninety seven. Let's get this thing started. No, 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Roy Glover, don't do that. Glover was a great football player. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, I mean he I think he was 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: the first guy to have four straight Pro Bowls in 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: his first four years. Zach Martin has since done that, 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: but he was announced standing player on some bad teams. 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised he doesn't get more, doesn't get 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: at least to being a finalist for the Hall of Fame. 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: He was one of those players. I was so good 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: and he was so underrated, and he was on bad 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: teams at the Cowboys. I assume I don't know what 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the Saints were like while he was there. Roy that 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: stung that I hated. I hated the Cowboys for because 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: he was one of the saints best players at a 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: time when I mean the Dome Patrol obviously, but they 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: were always second fiddle to the Niners. Those teams, they weren't. 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: They never like commanded their division, and so like late nineties, 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: early two thousands, it was like the first taste of 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the Saints being like a playoff type team. And Leroy 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: left in free agency, and I think it was like 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: the first time the Saints had a player than anybody 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: else wanted. And I just I was probably like twelve, 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: and I just like damn count He used to piss 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: off the TV cameras too, because he would sit in 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: his locker and we'd go to interview him a couple 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: of riders, and then the cameras you would show up 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: late and h after you do the work, and then 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: he had this big dip in his mouth and he'd 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: be like, no cameras, just just you know, writers only, 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: and they were like they were getting pissed about it. 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Was like, because they had this big dip, want to 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: show what's my kind of guy? Screw the TV people 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: didn't It didn't It didn't matter if we're doing it. 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, He's like, well, they're a good team. That 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, so you know you don't, but you don't 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: translate that. He was such a good player. I mean, 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and that's the other thing about it. Sometimes when you 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: talk about interior defensive lineman, they don't get all the shine. 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: But that guy was a really, really good player. And 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: you could see it on a bad team, which is 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: sometimes even harder to do. But he was really really 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: a good player. All right, Nick, I want to also 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: take a little moment and i'll Amber and Dave. I'm 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: not sure if you guys have any but I'll open 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: it up to you if you if you do, but 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: i'd like to start to show off today getting just 63 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: some memories of Cowboys forty nine ers, because there are 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: this is one of the most storied rivalries probably in 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Um and Nick, I know because I've had 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: some conversations with you and you have lots of memories 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: from that. But let's let's just kind of see if 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: you have something, if you guys to have some by 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: by by all means jump in. My favorite play of 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: all time is in this series. I mean, and we're 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna do a video here in a little bit about 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: my favorite moments from the Cowboys forty nine ers. But 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Alvin Harper Catch to me was the play it was. 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: It was, It's my favorite play of all time because 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: that is what the catch was for the forty nine ers. 76 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: Was what that was for the Cowboys. It kind of 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: propelled them for the entire dynasty, and it was more 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: of um, you know, yeah, nice comeback. Crowds into it. 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Four minutes to go. We've been in these games, we've 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: seen them, were like, how do you get rid of this? 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Four minutes? You're gonna run the ball, they're gonna call timeouts, 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna put They just said, we're gonna throw it 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: over to Alvin Harper and he's gonna break away, and 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this thing right here, right now. It 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: was a mentality that they had with Jimmy Johnson that 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: right there. There's a lot of great ones. I got more, 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: but that play right there symbolized more than just the play, 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: symbolize kind of what they were about to be in 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: taking control over the dynasty there from the Niners. I 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: let Nick have the shine there, Like, I mean, my 91 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: answers just aren't gonna be that good. I really, I'm 92 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: old enough to remember that stretch of time, but not vividly. 93 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Especially I wasn't a Cowboy fan so I or a 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: forty nine er fan, so I wasn't invested in it. 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: But I just remember those two teams there. They were 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: just always on, like you were just always aware that 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: that was a big deal and like the winner was 98 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: probably gonna win the super Bowl. For me, my most 99 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: vivid Cowboys Niners memory, other than games I've actually covered, 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: is again, probably I don't know, thirteen or fourteen, watching 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: whatever Saints game was happening that day, and you know 102 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: that Jim Brown does the break in. He's like, let's 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: see what's going on in Tio's standing on the star 104 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, okay, that's interesting, Like what the hell? 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: And then they were like and then you're like, JB, 106 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: something else is happening in Dallas. Let's cut away from 107 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the Saints ray oh my god, like Emmitt Smith, Tio's 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: doing it. Like I vividly remember that. It was like 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 1: they just kept cutting into that game, and like Dallas 110 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: wasn't good that year, right, and so you didn't really 111 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: have a reason to be paying attention to it until 112 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: all of that started, and it was like riveting and 113 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: by the time George Tigue finally hit him, I feel 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: like I was more interested in that than whatever the 115 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Saints were doing. Yeah, that was that kind of game, 116 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: And to be honesty, that was probably my most vivid 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: memory of Cowboys forty nine ers as well, just because 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: of the craziness of the game. Again, this was not 119 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: a good team that year, but the way that game transpired, 120 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: it just there was just all these moments where it 121 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: was kind of like TiO goes to the Star, then 122 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Emmett goes to the Star, then it TiO goes to 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: the Star again. It was just kind of kept going, 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: and it was like, Okay, this is probably the most 125 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: excitement we're gonna see all season, so let's just lean 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: into it. That's fun. That's a very unique NFL thing 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: because I mean it sucks, but like the way that 128 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: they still broadcast the league is so outdated. You know, 129 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: like if unless you have NFL package, you get two 130 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: games even in twenty twenty two, which is insane, but um, 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: but every now and then you'll have a moment like 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: that where there's like drama playing out in the other 133 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: game and they're like, let's get you back to Texas 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Stadium where all hell has broken loose, you know. So 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: we had a game and it turned into something else. Yeah, 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, I I never no one's ever really said this, 137 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: And I asked he know this, and he kind of 138 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: just smiled or and didn't really answer it. But I 139 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: always believe that he did that because he recently, right 140 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: before that, had filmed the movie Any Given Sunday, which 141 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: was filmed at the stadium, and he was on the 142 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: other team, and he I think he did that in 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the movie or you know, like a 144 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: play or something like that. So I think, you know, 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: he'd just been there and he'd done. I think that 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: was part of it too, I asked him once again. 147 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: He didn't really answer, or you're just kind of like whatever, 148 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, well, obviously it was perceived as 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: much more than that, and it's you've seen it over 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: the years. It's continued to play out, you know, teams 151 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: that go out to the logo of the other team 152 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: on the fifty and during their warm up and they're 153 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: jumping around on it, and it turned into this whole 154 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: level of disrespect that then they feel like they have to, 155 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, do something to to show it. I mean, 156 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: it's just like it has become a thing. And I 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: don't know if before that i'd really seen it be 158 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: a thing, but it certainly became a thing. That day 159 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: was Oh, I'm not that old, Sorry to be honest, 160 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: and this is gonna sound ridiculous, but I am just 161 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: now this week finding out how big this game is 162 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: as far as like rivalry and this being a classic 163 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: game and going back to those times, like to me, 164 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the times that I've been working here and covering this team, 165 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have never been like such a 166 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: big deal. You know. You you talked about the opponent, 167 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: the week you're playing them and all that, but never 168 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: like this. I didn't know that there was this kind 169 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: of history behind the Cowboys and forty which And don't 170 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: let anybody call you silly for that, by the way, 171 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: because I mean, if you've been a fan of the 172 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: game for years and years, you know. But but I mean, 173 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: I've worked here since thirteen, and so they played here 174 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: in fourteen. We've been out to Levi's a bunch, like 175 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: I've lost track of it all. And they even at 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: one of those games, I think I think the Cowboys 177 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: kicked their ass because they've the last few times they've 178 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: gone out there, the forty nine ers haven't been a 179 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: very good team, but they honored Dwight Clark at halftime 180 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: and one of those games it was when he was 181 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: still alive, and I remember kind of not being surprised, 182 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: but I was like, oh yeah, Like I guess this 183 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: did used to be a big deal, because even the 184 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: four or five times that they've played in the regular 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: season while I've been here, it hasn't felt like that 186 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: to me, Like it hasn't been like it's nine Ers week. 187 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: So it's been very fun to have all of this 188 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of rekindled this week and have everybody sharing all 189 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: of these memories, and you know that's the thing too. 190 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: You think about this forty nine ers matchup, like even 191 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: recently when there hasn't been as much consequence to the game, 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: there's still drama. Like you think about Jesse Holly's game 193 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: like that. We did a documentary on Jesse Holly and 194 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: it was all built around that game because there was 195 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: so much in that game for him that was, you know, 196 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of this crowning moment. Obviously he makes the game 197 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: winning play in overtime, and so it's there have been 198 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: those kind of moments. This is that kind of drama 199 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: that tends to happen when these two teams match up, 200 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: and there's history that goes back even before the nineties, 201 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: obviously the catch that we talked about. So there's so 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: many dramatic wonder because we know there are a lot 203 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of young players here on the roster. So it makes 204 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: me wonder when you have older coaches, people like Dan Quinn. 205 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: He mentioned that how big this game is and all 206 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: that people that know the history that are passionate about 207 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: it that I want to go out there and compete 208 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: with everything, Like how do they transmit that kind of 209 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: passion a message to the younger players and get them 210 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: pumped up the same type of I mean, they're gonna 211 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: be pumped either way. They're gonna go out there play 212 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: playoff game. But you know, just I'm curious to see 213 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: what those meetings look like and what kind of like 214 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: fiery message they take. It matters. I think that does matter, 215 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: even though they don't know it. I think that they 216 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: just kind of understand how big the moment is. It 217 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: is bigger than they even thought, you know, and we'll 218 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: see if they rise to it. But they've said something about, 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, just you always knew that these two teams 220 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: were good and all that. I wrote this in the 221 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: mail bag this morning, and on a question like that. 222 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: The greatest line ever said to me, I mean you 223 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: ever said was in about this Robert was Pat Somemer 224 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: all in then open for the ninety four game, ninety 225 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: four NFC Championship. They've played ninety three. Here they are 226 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: again and that was when the Pro Bowl was after um, 227 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I think they had twelve and thirteen players each team. 228 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: And he says at the end of this whole intro, 229 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: he says, he says in two weeks. The super Bowl 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: will be played after that, the Pro Bowl today, we'll 231 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: play both. And I just thought that that right there, 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: because it's like it is, it was the super Bowl. 233 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: The charges weren't gonna be any of them. Oh yeah, 234 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: for those years, it was everybody knew the NFC Championship 235 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: game was the super Bowl for those years. I thought 236 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: it was cool Troy. Troy talks to thirteen ten the 237 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: ticket here every week, He's done that forever, and they 238 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: asked him about being part of that, and it was 239 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: cool how candid he was, because I mean he went 240 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: through the whole stretch of all of those years and 241 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I mean, it definitely hurt because 242 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: we knew that we would have treated San Diego the 243 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: same way they did like we we would have won 244 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: that game, There's no question about it. Just it just 245 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: speaks to the level that those two teams were on. 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: He said that they would win four straight because they 247 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't win that year, but then they 248 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: came back, and I don't know that it's true. I mean, 249 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: because I don't know if if Jerry breaks the bank 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: for Dion after that, because they you know, I don't 251 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: if you don't have the on that fourth year. Maybe 252 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe I mean, does he 253 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: go kind of all in in ninety five if he 254 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: won three in a row, did they lose more guys? 255 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but they certainly would have competed 256 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, it's kind of thing we talk 257 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: about with games all the time, like one thing kind 258 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: of precipitates another, so you can't really say good, no, no, no, 259 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: you didn't really say what it's gonna be. Yeah, if 260 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: those things don't happen before that. I just he said 261 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: another really interesting thing to me, which was that he 262 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: said losing the ninety four game, which like any Cowboy 263 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: fan that remembers that game, it's like they go to 264 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: a different place when you bring it up like it 265 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: without fail. See Nick, it hurts every fan I've ever 266 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: talked to who remembers that game. They just their eyes, 267 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: They just go to a dark place. I was a 268 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: freshman college and man that that I mean, crying wouldn't 269 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: have helped, but I could have. But Troy, Troy said 270 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: something that I thought was interesting. He's like, he was 271 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: like that, That's one of the proudest feelings I've ever 272 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: had leaving a football field, and I got it when 273 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: he explained it made a lot of sense. He was like, 274 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, by then, we had just become associated with dominance, 275 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Like you know, we killed the Bills in two Super Bowls, 276 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Like every time we play a big game, we just 277 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: show up and kick ass. And for us to get 278 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: down big like that and look vulnerable and not look 279 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: our best and still fight back, he was like, I 280 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: was proud to show America like what we were really 281 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: about that, like we wouldn't go down without a fight 282 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. I have two rewind moments in my life 283 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, two that I would just want to 284 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: rewind and replay it and see what happens. One of 285 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: them is twenty fourteen in Green Bay. I don't know 286 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: if they would have won, but I just would have 287 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: liked to seeing a touchdown there. See if they go 288 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: for two ye see what Rogers does. And we're talking 289 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: obviously the Desk game. Then the other one is the 290 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: ninety four game. I think Dion Sanders definitely had a 291 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: past interference on Urban. They call that at the five, 292 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: they're gonna go score. It's gonna be thirty eight thirty 293 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: five with five minutes to go. I want to see 294 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: that because I think they could have stopped up in won, 295 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, and that don't even remember all that five 296 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: minutes ago. There are the thirty five like, oh my god, 297 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: because I just rose my hand like that one hurt. 298 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Those moments, those moments turn into your brain, they really do. 299 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: Everyone's got a moment like that. And you're right, I 300 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: mean you went too straight. This is the game and 301 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: it's their down twenty one to nothing before you can 302 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: even get get through the first beer. I mean it 303 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: was twenty one nothing, you know, and not to go 304 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: too off the rails. I'm sure you want to take 305 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: a break. I've been thinking about this all week though, 306 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: because it got like this is what I said when 307 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: they hired McCarthy. Obviously, right now, in this moment, their 308 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: goal is to win the Super Bowl. It will be 309 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: very disappointing if they don't win this game. All that 310 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: good stuff, but like, that is the goal when you 311 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: hire Mike McCarthy, I said it. Then it's like year 312 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: after year being in the playoffs, like Huhet three was great, 313 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: but ninety four was heartbreaking, Whereas around here recently it's 314 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: been more like it's been three years since they've been 315 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Like, I hope these guys remember what 316 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: it takes, Like that's what needs to change, like they 317 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: need to success for Mike McCarthy is getting back to 318 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: a standard of like every year you're in the playoffs 319 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's going to go really well and sometimes 320 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: it's not. But you're there every year. And you know, 321 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: something that's interesting. I actually was thinking about this this morning. 322 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how many fans out there. Started to 323 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: see this word victory that's on a lot of the 324 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: stuff that we do, and it came actually from coach McCarthy. 325 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: It's something he's been preaching to the team all season. 326 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: It's been talking about this word victory, and for the 327 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: first time it kind of hit me. He basically took 328 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: away their safety net. You know, you have a lot 329 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: of the thing back to when Garrett was here. He 330 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: talked about what's important is the process, what's important is 331 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: the fight, Like it's all these things that you can control, 332 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: right and so, but it does leave that that little 333 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: gray area that even if you don't win, you should 334 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: be happy for the fight, you should be happy for 335 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: the process. If you do those things, that's enough. I 336 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy took away that safety net. There is 337 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: nothing else other than victory. There is nothing else other 338 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: than winning. That's a really scary way to kind of 339 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: put everything because that means you either are successful or 340 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: not and it's all dependent on the end of the day, 341 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: did you get the W and A. That's a pretty 342 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: bold thing to do, and it also can be a 343 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: very scary thing to do. But it goes to what 344 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Dave's talking about. Being a coach and creating the standard 345 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: of our standard is not necessarily just the process. Yeah, 346 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: we want you to do the same things and be 347 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: good at doing the same things and even preparing. But 348 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're judged by did 349 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: you win or did you lose? There is no moral victory. 350 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: You either one of you didn't. And I think that, 351 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I know, I think that to me is one of 352 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the things I look at. I'm like, that's kind of 353 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: that tells you a little bit about his mentality and 354 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: what he wants, how he wants his team to think. 355 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: That's a little bit different than maybe the previous regime. 356 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: All Right, were gonna take our first recon we co back. 357 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be John by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. 358 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this San Francisco defense versus the 359 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. We'll be right back. This is Dallas Cowboys 360 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. At ATNT, everyone new and existing customers 361 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: get our best deals on every smartphone. 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When you sign up to receive 398 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: text messages from the team text Cowboys to NFL da 399 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: L that's six three five three two five. Message and 400 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: date rates may apply. Welcome back. It is the second 401 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: segment of the Break Life s w BC Morriage Studios 402 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: at the Star. We are joined right now our guy 403 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, NFL Network. Bucky. Let's start. Let's talk about 404 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: the San Francisco defense. First of all, tell me what 405 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: is it that they do best and where are they 406 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: most vulnerable. The thing that they do well is they 407 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: dominated the point of attack. They are a team that 408 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: has always put their premium and invested in the defensive line, 409 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: and the defensive line allows them to control of the game. 410 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: The most notable guy is Nick Bolson. He has sixteen 411 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: and a half sacks coming off in Ato, which is remarkable. 412 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: But he's joined by two guys on the inside. Eric Olmstead, 413 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: who's done a great job I think six and a 414 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: half sacks, and then you have Art and t who's 415 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: the situational pass rusher that has given them some help. 416 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: So this is a team that wants to rush for 417 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: They want to drop seven and they believe that they 418 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: can whip you upfront with the D line and then 419 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: they can protect the back end and coverage. Their secondary 420 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: is their weakest part. But a lot of times you 421 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: can't get to attack the back end because Nick Won 422 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: the company are knocking you around and making you leave 423 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the pocket before you can really attack. Bucky. How we 424 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: talked yesterday about the running game. They're the forty nine 425 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: ers defense. Is it good because of those guys you said? 426 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: Or are they even better when their offense is actually 427 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: running the ball, getting the clock and kind of controlling 428 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: the game and allowing them to kind of take advantage 429 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, it's a complimentary approach. I mean they're good. 430 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that they're necessarily like top five good 431 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: on their own accord. I would say that it's the 432 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: way that they play that helps them when you're running 433 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: the ball. Then the forty nine hasn't done this in 434 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: a couple of games where the first drive is fifteen play, 435 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: they make you punted and they get it and go 436 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: another fifteen plays and before you know a year, I 437 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: mean midway in the second quarter and you have no 438 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: rhythm of field on the offense and you're chasing point. 439 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: And so that allows them to play the kind of 440 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: style of defense that they want to play because they 441 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: want to rush the pass that they don't really want 442 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: to have to go straight up and deal with the 443 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: running game and stuff like that. And so as much 444 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: as we talk the forty nine ers running game, making 445 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: opponents with and fear them, they also don't want to 446 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: face a steady data run because that's not necessarily what 447 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: they're built for. They're built to rush to pass. Bucky, 448 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: speaking of which you just talked about him, imagine my 449 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: surprise when I turn on this tape and my old 450 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: friend from LSU arden Key is not just playing well 451 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: for them, but doing it at a new position Like 452 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: it seems like they use him a lot as a 453 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: d tackle. Just what I mean, what have they found 454 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: in this guy? And how much of a problem is 455 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: that for the interior alignment on the Cowboys. Well, what 456 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: they have wanted to build line coaches in pullball and 457 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: Chris cons and he is unlocked. Arden Key arden keyed 458 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: is found at home by playing on the inside, and 459 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: they are a team to use a lot of movement 460 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, slamming, stunning, getting them on 461 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: the move by whether the ball goes jumping in guests. 462 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's skilled, and you're seeing when you put 463 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: a defensive in a guy who's a natural two hungere 464 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: and forty pounder on the inside, he's working the edges 465 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. So he wins with quickness and 466 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: hand skills as opposed to like sheer strength and power. 467 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: And it's working for them. And if they get you 468 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: in those situations where they're able to unleash him, he 469 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about the run. Well, then it 470 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: becomes a problem. And so you see an art and 471 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: he kind of playing the way that maybe some imagine 472 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: him being a disruptive force. He's just doing it at 473 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: a different position. Man, I don't really even know what 474 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: to ask because I feel like every week it's like, Okay, 475 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: we'll always have one more week, but then this week 476 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: it's like this is it. They're all in with this. 477 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: So I guess what I want to ask you, Bucky, 478 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: is after seeing the way that they played last week, 479 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: even though it was with an opponent that didn't have 480 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: many of their starters or anything like that. What are 481 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: some of the things that you think that the Cowboys 482 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: might still struggle with this fight of the kind of 483 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: performance they put out last week. This game comes down 484 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: to the offensive line. It comes down to how well 485 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: they play at the point of attack. If Sen Smith 486 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: play all Colin Zach more in time betters and kind 487 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: of willing to play well, then the Cowboys win. If 488 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: they have any problems, then it's gonna be a long day. 489 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: And that's just what it comes down to. And so 490 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: if the ability to control the guys upfront, and if 491 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: you can do that and slow down Bosa and Aunstead 492 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: and contain Fred Warner and those guys at the second level, 493 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: then you dominate the game and you do it the 494 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: way that you've done it for most of the season. 495 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: But if you have issues and it cracks up front, 496 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: it's going to make it very uncomfortable because you won't 497 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: be able to run the football. And in death, you 498 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: have to maybe do too much in terms of like 499 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: having to make more players, because I wouldn't want to 500 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: see him have to throw it forty plus times, even 501 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: though he's more than paple of being able to do that. 502 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: That's not the game that the Cowboys should want to 503 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: be able to get into and the pole season. So 504 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: it's all about the trenches. Whoever wins the trenches often 505 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: is gonna win the game. Bucky, I'm gonna ask you 506 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: a bigger picture question. We actually got this question from 507 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: one of our listeners, Colin Brennan. He says, he asked, 508 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: what areas on offense and defense? Does Dallas have the 509 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: advantage over San Francisco Because I think all week listening 510 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: to our show and listening to a lot of media, 511 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, man, this is a tough matchup for Dallas. 512 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Where's it a tough matchup for San Francisco? I mean 513 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: defending the Cowboys. I mean, let's be honest, like the 514 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: star power is real and it We do play these 515 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: narratives in the media like, oh, you never want to 516 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: face the Niners, get the hottest team, but look, they 517 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: got seven losses on their legends, so they have issues too. 518 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: And the big thing with the Niners is you have 519 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're attacking. What you want to 520 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: do is you want to play from in front and 521 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: put the game on Jimmy Garoppolo. So the advantage is 522 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys quarterback, wide receiver. Even though Dego saying 523 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: is legit, the wide receivers still go that way. The 524 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, I would say, is almost a bit of 525 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: a push defended upon, like which version of Trent will 526 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: you comes back? Because he's played it at a great level. 527 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: The defensive line, I would say it's fairly even. Linebackers. 528 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of even. The defensive backs would 529 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: go to the Cowboys, and so it's kind of an 530 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: even matchup. The really style, it's who's able to impose 531 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: their style early in the game and make the game 532 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: be played out a certain way. If the Cowboys jump 533 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: in front and are able to play the game from 534 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: their front dinners, it's an easier game for them. If 535 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: it's one of those games where the Niners shorten the 536 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: game and they run it, then it becomes an all 537 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: day affair. But now we have overblown it and maybe 538 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: where the forty nine or the forty nine is from 539 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: the nineties and the nine that yeah, So that being 540 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: said about playing in the lead, when when the referee 541 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: announces before the kickoff that the Cowboys have won the toss. 542 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: What's your decision? What do you think it should be? Well, 543 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm always always want to defer because the reason why 544 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: I want to deferge because at the end of half, 545 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: there is what we call a double score opportunity. Right, 546 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: So if you score at the end of the half 547 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: and then you get the ball back, you get a 548 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: chance to really separate and explode from the opponent. So 549 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I would rather play it that way, even though I 550 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. If you feel like your offense 551 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: is debt potent that you want to go ahead and 552 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: jump on him, I steal with out for that. Even 553 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: though I know if the Niners getting the opening kick, 554 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna sit on the ball. Now. I mean, it's 555 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: gonna be like watching Wisconsin play basketball. It's half court, 556 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: it's the cloud. I mean, it's the cloud draining and 557 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: all that. So that's why it's gonna be really important 558 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: for them to jump on the running game early and 559 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: get them out of that. Because if you can force 560 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo to pass, I would say more than twenty 561 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: seven times the Cowboys winning. He's not gonna throw that 562 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: much and be effective. Do you think that they? I mean, 563 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: if they try this because it seems like there's there 564 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: should be a lot of plays to be made against 565 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: their secondary. Do you trust the Dallas offensive line to 566 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: keep Dak on his feet long enough to take advantage 567 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: of that? Basically, I would say they can do that, 568 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: But I said the ball needs to come out quick. 569 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I say I would say that looking at how they 570 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: want to play, because they want to drop seven and coverage. 571 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: They're not necessarily a Tampa two or a Cover two team. 572 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: They kind of play single high safety or some quarters. 573 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: You want to get the ball out quickly. Let him 574 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Maury Cooper and CD Lamb. You want them to go 575 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: to work on run after the catch plays you can 576 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: attempt to kind of push you down the field, but 577 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: you have to set those up. We saw how the 578 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Rams struggle when they just got grief for no reason 579 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: because they're gonna play over the top because just like 580 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: we can see it, let me go it runs. No, 581 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: a man, my corners are not the best. Let's keep 582 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: everything in front. Let's not let it flow over ahead. 583 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: And so you have to be patient. So it's gonna 584 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: take some patience, some discipline. And I heard you guys 585 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: talking before about the playoffs. And like it's been three years. 586 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: The people that I'm really looking at are not the players, 587 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: it's Kellen Moore and Dan Quinn and how they handle 588 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: calling the game in the postseason. Kellen More in particular, 589 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: as a young play caller, when the game is very emotional, 590 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: you can deviate and leave the running game when it's 591 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: not successful early. How patient is he going to be 592 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: with taking a balance approach that might be the deciding 593 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: fact in whether the Cowboys win or not. How Killing 594 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: Moore handles the playoff environment and atmosphere, having never called 595 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: the game in the Vosseas, Hey Bucky real quick. As 596 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: a follow up to that, how much do you put 597 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: on the head coach though he has a lot of experience, 598 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: knowing that he has a young play caller, is it 599 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: his responsibility to also be able to get in Kellen's 600 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: ear if he feels like he's not being patient enough 601 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: and say, hey, let's remember, let's stick to our plan, 602 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: let's continue to run the ball even if it's not 603 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: necessarily working. I would say this, if we're looking at 604 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: the game, you guys will be there. But if you're 605 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: looking at the game on TV, if you don't see 606 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy doing a lot of talking. He is doing 607 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: his job at disservice. This is a game where a 608 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning head coach has to put his imprint 609 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: on the game. He needs to be more active, more 610 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: involved in the stuff. And I'm not saying take to 611 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: play card from killing Moore, but this game has to 612 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: go according to the script that Mike McCarthy has. That's 613 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: why he was hired. He was hired because he's been 614 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: the one to win super Bowls, not those other guys. 615 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: He has to lead this team until. Yeah, he has 616 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: to play a bigger role in managing the game. And 617 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: I know for some of us that makes the squeamish 618 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: based on what we've seen, but he has won it. 619 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: He needs to play and perform and make sure the 620 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: game looks like a championship level game. Bucky, And then 621 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, how good is their kicker. 622 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: I think the thing about Robbie Gold is you kind 623 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: of just know what you're getting. Look, he's made some 624 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: big kicks throughout this time. He has some This is 625 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: this year. I think if we're comparing the two, he's 626 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: been more consistent this year. But look, man, in the game, 627 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: it's a fifty to fifty proposition when you're dealing with 628 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: kickers of all levels. So you know, you just hope 629 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: that Grigs is on if he's called upon to make kicks. 630 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: But Rod, oh the solid you know. And so it's 631 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: just one of those things where you just hope that 632 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Gregg V is on his game. If he's on his game, 633 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: then you don't worry about Man, they squeamish because I 634 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: heard you guys talking about two point conversions or whatever yesterday. 635 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: You don't want it. You don't want it to get 636 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: to that, and you can't. And that's the thing, because 637 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to say it. But in 638 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs, the one thing that you can't do is 639 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: you cannot change if you've done things a certain way 640 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: the entire time. You cannot decide in the playoffs we're 641 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: switching it up. We're more aggressive, we're going for it 642 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: on fourth downs. That's not I am up. You still 643 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: got to play the way that you've always played it 644 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: because players would look around, like coaches trip and why 645 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: do you panicking? So you just gotta player straight. If 646 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: Greggs teams you got, you gotta trust them. You just 647 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: gotta live with it all right, give us a prediction. 648 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen this Sunday. I 649 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: think the couple was gonna win. I think the couple 650 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: was an a better team. I think it has to playoff. 651 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: I think it would be tight, just because I worry 652 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: about the inexperienced um for some of their guys Micah 653 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: and Trey Vine and some of those guys. But if 654 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: they can get through the first quarter and the game 655 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: is either even or they're up, I think they begin 656 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: to separate away from them late. All right, we appreciate that, Bucky. 657 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: We will talk to you hopefully next weekend as we're 658 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: getting your heady for round two. We'll see about that. 659 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. 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Slash 699 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys Back to the break all right, Sunday three thirty 700 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, It's time to white out 701 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: the stadium at AT and T Stadium, where You're white. 702 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com. Slash twenty twenty one playoffs 703 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: for more details. If you need more, it's really just 704 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: where white. Pretty simple. It's gonna look end zones are 705 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna look like, you know, like a little I'm not worried. 706 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this. There will be red in 707 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: the stadium, but it won't it won't be like last 708 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: week when they come close to looking like that. It's 709 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna stand out a lot more snap it will. It's 710 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: gonna stand out because it's red. I think that's the 711 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: big thing. It's just it's the easiest color to notice 712 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: of any but just if you're white, if you've got 713 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: a white out. I don't remember if I said this 714 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: here or on something else, but like they played Green 715 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: Bay in the playoffs, and then nobody said did Ley 716 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: about this? And Green Bay's just like San Francisco, like 717 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: they've got fans in every building in the league. I 718 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: just playoffs are different. Yeah, and it ain't gonna be 719 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. We will see. It'll be interesting. 720 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: And I do think that they're better on the road anyways. 721 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it really matters the Cowboys 722 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: are a better football team on the road, or do 723 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: they have a better record on the road than I 724 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: don't like that, which it won't happen. But like Matt 725 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Stafford had to go to a silent count in his 726 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: own building last week. You don't want that. But that's 727 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: also the thing about at and T Stadium. It's and 728 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: Jerry talked about this on the Fan earlier this week. 729 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: It's such as it's one of the largest stadiums from 730 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: the standpoint of number of seats that it accommodates or 731 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: number of people that it accommodates, And so by the 732 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: nature of that, you're going to have more visiting fans 733 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: that will be at the stadium than you typically see 734 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: all around the league. So I think there's gonna be some. 735 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think there'll be a ton of Cowboys 736 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: fans or wearing cell tickets for a playoff game. And also, 737 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: I think you got to remember that game was all 738 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: obviously on the schedule. That's the first time the forty 739 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: nine ers have ever played in so far where the 740 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: fans could come in. Yeah, so you know they didn't. 741 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: They weren't allowed last year, So that one's probably been 742 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: marked on calendars for a long time to go see 743 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: the stadium and go watch them play the Rams and 744 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: all that. So that was probably a lot of that. 745 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: All right, real goad Ama can I ask a question. 746 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: I didn't ask Bucky because we were already finishing up. 747 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: But when one of the last things he said he 748 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: mentioned was inexperience and how they might struggle with that 749 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: with the younger players. But I'm wondering, like, how, like 750 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: how does that really change at a playoff game with 751 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: guys For example, he mentioned Mica, how would his quote 752 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: unquote inexperience effect in a playoff game the first week 753 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: because you get into the playoffs and it's not like 754 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: you instantly got ten times better as the opposing team, 755 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, So you know what I'm trying, Well, yeah, 756 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: it's just to me, it's it's how are they mentally? 757 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, how do they how do they 758 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: handle the pressure all this talk and now especially with 759 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: the historical significance if that even matters. I mean, it's 760 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: just you're just putting a lot of pressure in there. 761 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: Are they focused on what they need to do? Can 762 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: they block all that and still perform? Some players do it, 763 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: some players don't. And the idea, I mean, it's over, 764 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: it's over if you lose this, and that's so the 765 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: stakes are higher. You're you're not only you're one loss 766 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: away from eight months of whatever, and you're only three 767 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: wins away from the Super Bowl. So I mean that 768 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: that way, and it ratchets up each time you advance. 769 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: You're like, if we win two more games, like we're 770 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl champs. I mean that, that's only human nature 771 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: that that would get to you. I don't I don't 772 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: worry about it, especially with Mica. Mica hasn't been phased 773 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: by anything that's happened to him this entire time. I 774 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he's not up for that challenge. 775 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: But it is a mental challenge, yeah, And a lot 776 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: of that mental I think also goes to the fact 777 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: of the intensity of the game. I remember first time 778 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: I just started working for the Cowboys, Nick, you might remember, 779 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: it was that that playoff game against Minnesota, and I 780 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: was standing on the sideline watching the teams come out 781 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: and you could just feel it. It's a different feeling. 782 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: It's a different level of intensity. And again, once the 783 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: whistle blows, is still a football game. But for every round, 784 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: that intensity ratchets up because all week you got friends 785 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: and family like, oh, it's the playoffs, Like it's it's 786 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: just that, Like Day said, it is that mental of 787 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: being able to get rid of the noise and the 788 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: distractions and the thoughts of how big and the magnitude 789 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: of the game, and being able to settle in and 790 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: play football. So when you're experienced, you have a little 791 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: bit more to rely on, like, Okay, this is still 792 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: just the football game. When you're less experienced, it's like 793 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you can get caught up in that and it 794 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: can take you a while to settle down into the 795 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: game and just play football. You know Brett Farve had, 796 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: you know that that was a big problem for him. 797 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: He's one of the best quarterbacks of all time, and 798 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, he was an MVP, and he would go 799 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: in to the Cowboy games and it take him a 800 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: second quarter before he could set it up, before he 801 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: realized that there is an actual crown on the stadium 802 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: and you got to throw those out routes. He's throwing 803 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: him in the stands because he's so jacked up. So 804 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: even some of the best players, it kind of gets 805 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: to him. Well, and you'll see it. Watch every game 806 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: of this magnitude. Whoever makes like the first few plays 807 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: of the game, the first guy that makes a big 808 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: hit or a nice catch, it's gonna be over the top, 809 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: like if Mica gets a tackle for loss on like 810 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: the first series of the I mean the flexing and 811 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: the scream. I mean, it's just it's a different level 812 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: of intensity. And Bucky's right, I mean getting through like 813 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: the first quarter, once you get into the flow of 814 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: the game and you're just kind of in the zone 815 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: and not worrying about it. That's that's really important in 816 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: these types of games. And to give you an indication. 817 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: I've heard players talk about this in Super Bowls. It 818 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: will just tell you the magnitude. When the magnitude goes up, 819 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: sometimes feeling like they're hyperventilating when the game's starting because 820 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: they're so hyped up, they're so ampt there's so much 821 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: juice flowing through them that it just it can get 822 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: you and you can take you away a little bit 823 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: and you you kind of have to settle back into 824 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: playing football. So yeah, I think when you talk about 825 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs, it is an increased level of intensity and 826 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: it gets a little bit tougher mentally. I think the 827 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: game's still going to be the game, though, and once 828 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: they settle in, I think they're fine. I do think, 829 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: I really do think a lot of the key guys 830 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: on this team are well suited for it, though. I agree. 831 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of guys on this 832 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: team where I just don't think things get to them 833 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: very easily. Yeah, and Nick, I remember we were in 834 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: Carolina and that pre game and we were both standing 835 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: down there and every fan's going crazy. The teams are 836 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: like seething at each other and it's just and Nick 837 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: turn to me. He said, we're not winning this game. 838 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: That's just where the white towel theories started. Yeah, it 839 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: was like when they introduced Stephen Davis, They're running back 840 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: and it was like and they had just beating them 841 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: like a thanksgivings, just beating them and it was a 842 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: big win, and you're it just felt different. Well, you're 843 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: that was went out of the game when nine and seven. Yeah, 844 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: well Steve Smith hit him with the let he say. 845 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: He said something pretty pretty crazy after the game. I 846 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: couln't even remember what he said, but he said something 847 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: like we whipped as Yeah, but it was it was, Yeah, 848 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty clear that Steve Smith, now right, 849 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like him, but that you could just 850 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: you feel it like you go down on the sideline 851 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: for a regular season game. For all the regular season games, 852 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: and then you go down for one for postseason game. 853 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: It is a very very different feeling. It is a 854 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: very high level. I'm so ready for this game, cannot 855 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: wait play to play. Yeah, I do not want all 856 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: brought us like, let's play. Let's go play the game. 857 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: That's a wrap. We got another show to do tomorrow, 858 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: so we do. And when we come in tomorrow, our 859 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: goal will be to get these guys, these listeners ready 860 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: for this game. Will have lots of thoughts about what 861 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: we think is going to happen, what we think is 862 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: going to have a good and bad for the Cowboys 863 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Till then for Nick Even, Dave helm and 864 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagletons. We've been The Break live 865 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been production 866 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.