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Speaker 1: Welcome to a special breaking news episode of Forties and

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Speaker 1: Free Agents. I am here Greg Rosenthal with my friend

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah just minutes after one of the biggest trades

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. We can call it that, Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: is going to the Green Bay Packers in exchange for

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Speaker 1: two first round picks and veteran Kenny Clark. On top

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Speaker 1: of that, he signed a four year, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty eight million dollar contract with one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: six million dollars guaranteed. It is good to be Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: and it is good to be Daniel Jeremiah who gets

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Speaker 1: to do a breaking news podcast with yours. Truly, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. Like what was your first reaction?

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Speaker 1: Where were you when you saw this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I just got back from lunch and

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Speaker 2: I was in the family room and I got on

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Speaker 2: my phone. This is what's This is the scale I

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Speaker 2: we'll use for how big of a story it is.

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Speaker 2: It was an at wrap sheet tweet and I did

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Speaker 2: a triple It was a triple check of is this

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Speaker 2: am I getting fooled here? I don't want to retweet

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Speaker 2: this if this is not authentic and it was like, oh, yeah, this,

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Speaker 2: this really happened. So that was my first reaction. My

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Speaker 2: second reaction was I was on an interview yesterday and

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Speaker 2: was asked about this, and I said, you know, I

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Speaker 2: kind of perked up a little bit when they asked

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Speaker 2: Brian gudakinst at the press conference yesterday about it. I speak,

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Speaker 2: I'm fluent in GM. I speak fluent GM. I know

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Speaker 2: exactly how they handle and answer every single question, and

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Speaker 2: it's all right out of a playbook. And anytime anybody

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Speaker 2: ever asked you about a player on another team or

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Speaker 2: opportunity or potential trade, the stock GM answer you get

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Speaker 2: every single time is you know what, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna comment on any other players, you know,

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Speaker 2: worried about the guys we have in our room. Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. That's standard stock answer. You never

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Speaker 2: give it any any light whatsoever. And he said, and

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Speaker 2: he's quoted even I think before this what we saw yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which was, hey, if we have an opportunity, we're willing

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Speaker 2: to you know, we're willing to part with picks and

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Speaker 2: we're willing to live. And I'm like, that is far

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Speaker 2: from what the normal answer is in that situation, my

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Speaker 2: ears perked up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were right to perk up, because Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: who Yeah put the news out, said that the terms

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Speaker 1: of the deal I believe between Parsons and the Packers

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Speaker 1: were done two days ago, and I think they were

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Speaker 1: figuring out the compensation in the meantime. I ultimately think

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Speaker 1: it's bad business to trade a player that I believe

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Speaker 1: is the best pure pass rusher of the last twenty

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Speaker 1: years to enter the league.

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Speaker 3: You could make an argument for.

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Speaker 1: Von Miller or Miles Garrett, and that's fine, but just

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Speaker 1: in terms of came into the league and was immediately

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Speaker 1: a complete difference maker as a pass rusher. He finished

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Speaker 1: second in Defensive Player of the Year, not Rookie the

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Speaker 1: Year Player of the Year as a rookie and has

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Speaker 1: maintained that high level for three seasons. I would say

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Speaker 1: Room was at one hundred percent healthy. I think it

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Speaker 1: is bad business not to just get the deal done

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Speaker 1: with Micah Parsons and avoid all that, because if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, DJ the Packers were not only willing

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Speaker 1: to give him that contract, he was worth enough to

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Speaker 1: I think that says something about the type of player

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Speaker 1: that he is. And I think it's bad business for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But for the Packers, we've been asking for

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Speaker 1: them to add a little more juice. This.

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Speaker 3: This is a little more juice. This is a lot

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Speaker 2: There's so many different angles to hit this on. So

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll try and narrow my thoughts. So let's

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Speaker 2: do Packers and then we'll get the Cowboys. So I'll

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Speaker 2: Star games, combine phone calls before the draft, you know

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Speaker 2: what are your team needs, what are you looking for?

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Speaker 2: You know, you know kind of where you are in

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of young guys. We have We've

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Speaker 2: We think we've got some really really good football players.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that we have that blue level player,

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Speaker 2: we have to game plan and scheme around this player.

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Speaker 2: So we really want to get an impact player. We

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Speaker 2: but we have to be real with ourselves that they're

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're trying to get from okay to good phase,

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Speaker 2: Like let's be a little bit smart and savvy with

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Speaker 2: we got to go down to go back up, or

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Speaker 2: is this We're this close, Greg, and let's be bold

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Speaker 2: and let's be aggressive and let's go for it. And

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Speaker 2: I feel like with Jordan Love where he is in

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Speaker 2: his ascension with a system and coaching staff offensive with

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Speaker 2: it's in place. They're looking at all these young defensive

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Speaker 2: that because I think that's the proper I think that

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Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: why are we doing the breaking news episode.

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Speaker 3: Look, we taped a couple episodes earlier.

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Speaker 1: Today you're going to hear forties of free agents where

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Speaker 1: we draft who could be the Super Bowl champion. Well

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Speaker 1: the breaking news. And one of the points I thought

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Speaker 1: like that was a move that teams make when they

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Speaker 1: think they're really close. But this is like another level

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Speaker 1: Rashan Gary is in a more supplementary role. Lucas van

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people that are helped out

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Speaker 2: All right, Can I give Eric homework?

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Speaker 3: By the way, that's our producer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a lot of your producer Eric homework. Just

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Speaker 2: little conversation, can we get Micah Parsons career numbers against

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. I'd be curious about that because this

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Speaker 2: also does feel like you went out and got Aaron

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Speaker 2: who's going to be extremely familiar with with Philly and

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Speaker 2: obviously he's a great player. An elite player at elite

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I'll do respect to the players

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Speaker 1: DeVante Whyett is one of them. Solid players. But you're

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Speaker 2: You're not fine Michah Parsons in the late twenties, I

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Speaker 1: Even the fact he slipped as far as he did,

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Speaker 1: the terms are not crazy different to the Khalil Mack

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Speaker 1: more complicated with Kenny Clark involved, but essentially to first

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Speaker 1: was I couldn't quite get there imagining this defense run

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Speaker 1: by Jeff Haffley, who I think did a goo job

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Speaker 1: like it's it's easier to see the vision.

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Speaker 2: How about the speed? Just just look at three guys.

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Speaker 2: Look at Micah Parsons, Edrin Cooper, Koy Walker, Like, first

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Speaker 2: of all, Rashan Gary, if I have to go back through,

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Speaker 2: I think he ran in the four high, four fives

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Speaker 2: coming out like he's stupid athletic. Devonte Wyatt ran incredibly

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Speaker 2: have the fastest front seven in the NFL. Now throwing

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons into that mix. And by the way, Eric

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Speaker 2: did his homework Parsons and how many games against the

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about Micah. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad you you bring that up, and

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one to have on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I give you one other comparison, because

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I think, how do you? I think it's

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Speaker 1: If there is one team that could survive losing Michael

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not nearly the same now, but you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just pulling up some numbers from last year.

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Speaker 1: I still think they're going to go over I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think offensively that they have enough to be a

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Speaker 3: You know, it is.

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Speaker 2: Weird to have grown up a child of the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that they have Edrian Cooper back there

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Speaker 1: and he's really good if kway Walker, like, if nothing else,

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Speaker 1: he has a fireball and he will be you're talking

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Speaker 1: about team speed.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there there are any teams that are

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Speaker 1: more explosive in the front seven. I think the Vikings

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Speaker 1: are very interesting and tough to prepare for, but they

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Speaker 1: don't have the juice and the Texans they don't quite

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Speaker 1: have the guys.

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Speaker 3: On the interior in terms of their defensive line. And man,

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Speaker 3: the Packers did it.

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Speaker 1: I you know one thing I love about this too

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Speaker 1: is Ted Thompson and Gouda Kuntz. You're right, like it's

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Speaker 1: a it's just consistently hitting those singles, hitting those doubles.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to spend too much in free agency,

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Speaker 1: although they have started to so we're not.

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Speaker 2: Going to draft a receiver in the front everybody want.

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Speaker 2: We're not. It's like that should have been our that

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Speaker 2: should have been our alarm clock. They're spending money in

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Speaker 2: free agency. They're announcing to the world that they're taking

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Speaker 2: a receiver in the in the drafts. In Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: the whole town goes nuts. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 2: new Packers.

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Speaker 3: They they have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're replacing the Cowboys as an America's team.

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Speaker 4: It would it would be fun to see, you know, oh, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know it's a sidebar that I just thought of.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I told you this, but I

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Speaker 4: was at UH. I went on a little one day

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Speaker 4: getaway with the wife and we went up to the UH,

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Speaker 4: up to the Ritz Carlton and Laguna Degel for one night.

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Speaker 4: And we're staying there and I go out on the

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Speaker 4: balcony and I see just a bunch of NFL looking

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Speaker 4: players walking around.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on here? Like? And then

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Speaker 2: I see, oh, they're all dressed up nice, like must

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Speaker 2: be a wedding. Uh, And so I all then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I see walking down from the wedding,

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Speaker 2: I see a sign and I go, what is it?

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Speaker 2: I can't quite make it out. And then I see

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Speaker 2: David Mulgeta, the agent, walk right by and he looks

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Speaker 2: up at me on the balcony. I'm only on the

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Speaker 2: second floor, so you can could have seen me. He goes,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing here? And I go, I'm just

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Speaker 2: here like a little getaway with my wife. What's going on? So? Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's Jordan Love's wedding. So now I'm putting the wheels

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Speaker 2: in motion. David Mulgetta, Micah Parson's agent, was at Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love's wedding. Lafleur was there the whole darn near Packers

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Speaker 2: team wo. So my question is did I see the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the makings of the this whole thing coming

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Speaker 2: together at Jordan Love's wedding at the Ritz Carlton and

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Speaker 2: Lagoon and a gel. Now my mind is like exploding

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Speaker 2: as I'm figuring this out in real time.

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Speaker 3: You did it.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to go to Reddit and find the

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists who, by the way, we're we're right on

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Speaker 1: about this trade. You've got Daniel Jeremiah months ahead in

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Speaker 1: actual real life. That's that's pretty bizarre quality reporting. And

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Speaker 1: not too different from how that Dared Goff and Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: You know, trade all happened when John McVay and Stafford,

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Speaker 1: they just happened to be vacationing at the same hotel

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. Oh man, that is awesome. I'm glad the

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Speaker 1: time worked out for us to get this in before

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Speaker 1: the holiday weekend and before you hear back from us

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Speaker 1: in the Forties and Free Agent Feed. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to be playing a couple episodes Monday and Tuesday where

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Speaker 1: we draft the most likely Super Bowl champions and I

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Speaker 1: think the Packers have to move on.

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Speaker 2: I got a value pick there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're They're looking good.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you, DJ, and yes, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: in the feed in just a couple of days. Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: I mean with the photoshop, he looks good in a pass.

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Speaker 2: How about a bonus Forties and Free Agents that America.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. You got a yellow bonus