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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. God

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Speaker 1: it's Friday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown seeds tasker with you as we are. We

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Speaker 3: have motored through the week.

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Speaker 4: We have made it and uh you know here we

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Speaker 4: are so boom boom. It's Friday, and Friday. You know

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Speaker 4: it's the best day of the week, the work week anyway.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, day and Sunday.

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Speaker 3: One word, I said, work.

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Speaker 4: Week, So yeah, that's right, although Saturdays and Sundays can

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Speaker 4: somehow morph into the work week once we get to

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Speaker 4: the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Once you get to the nice weather. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I got a mountain of stuff I gotta do.

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Speaker 3: Oh you got yard work to do?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, it's never ending. But it s all right though.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of funny, like you finally get everything to

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Speaker 4: a place where you can kind of stay ahead of

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Speaker 4: it for the rest of the summer, and then then we're.

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Speaker 3: Camp right, and then you fall behind again because you're

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Speaker 3: not whole.

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Speaker 1: We got a few sprinkles around the region, just really live.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get anything where I live. But it's been

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Speaker 1: like three weeks since it's train right, So all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, dry now my grass had been grown.

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Speaker 3: How bad is the How bad is the pollen on

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Speaker 3: your car in your area?

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Speaker 1: That's bad?

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Speaker 3: It's bad, right, I have this film of yellow.

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Speaker 1: That's bad. I thought I thought it was like maple

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Speaker 1: wood ash from Canada.

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Speaker 4: No, it's because it's been so dry. When it gets dry,

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Speaker 4: the pollen really flies. Fortunately for me, I don't. I

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Speaker 4: don't have a ton of out like.

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Speaker 3: Some other people do.

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Speaker 4: Like our producer Jay, when it's this dry and the

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Speaker 4: pollens flying, he better be hopped up on his allergy mediciner.

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Speaker 1: He's in trouble right.

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Speaker 3: Fortunately that's not me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I've got stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm a busy week for me. I've been all over

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Speaker 1: the place. But it's been good. This good stuff. We

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Speaker 1: everybody knows this. Here in Buffalo and in this western

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Speaker 1: kind of thrive in it. I mean, especially even this

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Speaker 1: last winter where you kind of all kind of put

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Speaker 1: generational storms that we had, two snowstorms and an ice storm.

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Speaker 1: And then we get to this point and it seems

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Speaker 1: like every single fun thing that we've wanted to do

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Speaker 1: for months and months is now all plopped onto every

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Speaker 1: single weekend of the summer season.

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Speaker 3: Short. Oh my gosh, so you have it has to happen.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, it's the best though. It's making

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Speaker 1: choices like that and doing some I got, you know,

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Speaker 1: I got two soccer games. I gotta go tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: got a farmer's market. I'm gonna hit up. I got

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Speaker 1: Then I got there's a huge thing going on in

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Speaker 1: my village tomorrow. Music fest is over in East Row tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, ten fifteen thousand people be over

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Speaker 1: there walking around. We'll listen to live music. There's fifty

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Speaker 1: you know. It's just one of those things, right, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is up. Then I got to finish it off.

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Speaker 1: Got a buddy who's got a place to invite us

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Speaker 1: up for, you know, dinner at night. And that's just

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean we've gott into Sunday, right.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta and you feel I mean, certainly starting

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Speaker 1: with the two grandkids who well, actually the four grandkids

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Speaker 1: that are in playing soccer. I gotta be there for

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Speaker 1: it's managing your your blessings. I guess, yeah, awesome, it is.

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Speaker 1: But that's where we're all at right here.

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Speaker 3: You got a full weekend in.

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Speaker 1: Western New York. We kind of do that though, right

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Speaker 1: we pile it is correct, let's go. The football season

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Speaker 4: Summer in summer here in Buffalo is like a compressed accordion.

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Speaker 4: It's all sprunged in together.

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Speaker 1: It is. But it is spectacular.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, as you said, it hasn't rained

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Speaker 4: And early June here have been almost the exact opposite last.

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Speaker 1: Couple of days with the fires in Canada. It's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: Because wind is finally coming out of the west now

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Speaker 4: like it usually does, and it's blown everything to the

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Speaker 1: Is it maybe you know, I don't know. I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: We might have talked about this the other day. We've

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Speaker 1: Seems very unusual. I did recall, I want to. I

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Speaker 4: Friend of the show, who tweeted, who tweeted that this

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Speaker 4: has happened before, but he had to go all the

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Speaker 4: way back to the late fifties to find it, when

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Speaker 4: there were forest fires in Canada that were impacting Western

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Speaker 1: But like, do they happen every year and it's just

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Speaker 1: because the wind was wrong? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh question, California wildfires kind of happen every year, every

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Speaker 1: other year, you know, on a regular basis, because of

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Speaker 1: that they've had. But I don't remember the wildfires in

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Speaker 1: the wind was never right, because the prevailing wind takes

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to do a quick Google Search how often.

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Speaker 1: I guess we could have shown up to the show

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Speaker 1: a little prepared for the conversations.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, it makes the show more organic this way, right, right,

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Speaker 4: But Canadian wildfires are worsening. It's been a brutal wildfire

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Speaker 4: I do know that a lot of the elected leaders,

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Speaker 4: the California wildfires have been more numerous each year and

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that's that gets better? Like everything's getting worse,

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Speaker 1: pollutions getting worse, the economy is always getting The economy

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Speaker 4: If climate change keeps going the wrong way, we'll have more.

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Speaker 3: Water, is that. I don't know if that's better.

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Speaker 1: It's more water where we don't want it, in our cities,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's better.

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Speaker 1: We'll have six We'll have six cities in America that

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Speaker 1: are like Venice, Italy, get.

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Speaker 3: Right, floating cities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're not smart enough to know that. We haven't

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Speaker 1: That is correct, So and it's a good thing we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just God bless them.

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Speaker 4: I do hope things get better, you know, because you're

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Speaker 1: I would imagine up there, Well, they said that the fire,

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Speaker 1: these fires are gonna they're gonna last weeks because there's

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Speaker 1: themselves out there. There's like four hundred fires up there.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty of them are out of control.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: And that's just because of how remote the area is

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Speaker 1: But for most of us, and I hate to, you know,

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Speaker 1: be this kind of cynical. Most of us now don't

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Speaker 1: think won't give it an there's twenty thousand people up

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Speaker 1: there that is placed, we won't. Most of us won't

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Speaker 1: give it another thought because it's not blown in our face.

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Speaker 1: It'll be off our radar, and it's for somebody else's problem. Now,

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the way we are, right. We

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Speaker 3: What's you know, what's the headline this week?

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Speaker 1: Like I gotta go to soccer games tomorrow, right, That's

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the I'm like, well, that impots you

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Speaker 1: Ten seconds crazy.

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Speaker 4: Let's go around the NFL brought to you by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 4: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. We know that

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Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins Steve will be visiting the Tennessee Titans on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: He now has a second team on his schedule, the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots, who he will visit next week now.

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Speaker 4: Some national reporters have noted that hopkins visit to the

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Speaker 4: Patriots makes sense because he played for Patriots offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien to start his career in Houston. Was an

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Speaker 4: All Pro three times in his offensive system, so a reunion.

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Speaker 3: Would make sense.

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Speaker 4: I think people are forgetting He also traded him unceremoniously.

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Speaker 4: I gotta ask you, Steve, and he's been in You've

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Speaker 4: he steps in the room with Bill O'Brien, who traded

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Speaker 3: When he was the head coach in Houston, And I'm

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Speaker 3: how does that go?

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Speaker 1: I got a little bit of a remembrance. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like this, Wow, he's a great player, but were our

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Speaker 1: team's not in the position to get no peop? Yes?

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Speaker 1: They well yeah, And plus it was like Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: kicked him out like he took a bag of donuts

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Speaker 1: for DeAndre hop.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't acrimonied it, but it certainly was unceremonious.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it was they didn't want to pay him too.

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Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think there was that in there too,

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Speaker 1: so that that goes along with everything. And I'll say

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Speaker 1: this though, DeAndre Hopkins has a reputation for like not

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Speaker 1: being one of those guys who goes out in practice

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Speaker 1: and gives it his all. In fact, in fact, some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, won't press.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna sit there and stand and watch. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how that goes in New England. I get the.

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Speaker 3: Feeling that in New England it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: They expect you to show up and like in game

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Speaker 1: day mentality on praft, you have.

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Speaker 4: To wonder if that's why he wore out his welcome

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Speaker 4: in Houston, right, Brian, Right, I mean he subscribes to

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Speaker 4: the same kind of approach.

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Speaker 1: Well Brian has to know that. Yeah, but maybe too.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this for Indiana in defensive DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury did not run a tight ship in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: No, and so if you're but how does he operate

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Speaker 3: That he isn't.

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Speaker 3: There are now five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Nobody in the NFL has a base

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Speaker 4: If you have if you have cap space and your

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Speaker 3: I would do it. I would do it.

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Speaker 4: that that number that is associated with a running back

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Speaker 4: And don't think for a second that the analytics department

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Speaker 1: He had eleven hundred yards last year, no question. But

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Speaker 1: He's a creature man. He's different, he's different, one of

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Speaker 1: He says the right things, he lives the right kind

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Speaker 1: of life. His family's great. He you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: nice to see good things happen to people who you

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Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for, and this is certainly

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Speaker 1: one of those moments. And it's bills fans are Bill's

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Speaker 1: fans are going crazy over yeah, and they should.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: We want to remind you that with it being Friday,

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Speaker 4: as always, it's the obl Fan Friday Mailbag that is

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Speaker 4: open for you to submit your questions and queries about

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Speaker 4: the bills, the league, get large anything, salary cap, free agency,

449
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Speaker 4: you name it, we try to answer it. So if

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Speaker 4: you have any questions, you can call his it EIGHTO

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Speaker 4: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 4: two five fifty to get on the phone lines. Ask

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Speaker 4: us a question about the Bills or the league, and

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Speaker 4: as we said, free agency, the draft, whatever it is

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Speaker 4: that's on your mind, you can ask us and we'll

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Speaker 4: try to give you as intelligent an answer as we can.

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Speaker 4: So get on the lines now if you want, we

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Speaker 4: got open lines for you there at eight o three

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Speaker 4: oh five fifty. Also on the tweets sheet if you

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Speaker 4: don't have time to call, but you want to fire

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Speaker 4: off a question there, you can do that at one

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Speaker 4: Bills Live on Twitter. Steve I found we had Jeffrey

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Speaker 4: Chadia on last week from NFL dot com and he

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Speaker 4: had an interesting write up this week, ten mini camp questions,

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Speaker 4: and I want to bounce some of these off of

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Speaker 4: you because he had some good ones just going around

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Speaker 4: the league, some pressing questions, you know, about new pieces

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Speaker 4: and new places, that kind of thing. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: read five. I'm gonna read the first five off to you.

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Speaker 4: I want you to pick which one you think is

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Speaker 4: the most interesting, right, and then I want you to

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Speaker 4: pick the one that you think think is the most

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Speaker 4: difficult to answer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here are the first five. Are the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: better off with Mike.

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Speaker 4: McCarthy calling the plays. Will brock Purdy be magical for

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Speaker 4: an entire season? Will Vic Fangio turn around the Dolphins defense?

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Speaker 4: How much help do the Lions get from their rookie

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Speaker 4: class which is Jamiir Gibbs and Jack Campbell? And is

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Speaker 4: there already too much drama around the Raiders? Those are

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Speaker 4: the first five Cowboys, McCarthy, brock Purdy, Magical, Vic Fangio, defense, Lions, rookies,

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Speaker 4: Drama Raiders?

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Speaker 1: Which one do you want most interesting?

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Speaker 3: Which is the most interesting?

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Speaker 1: I think the most interesting to me is Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: in Dallas because they got a shot to win that division.

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Speaker 1: I know Philly's good, but the NFC as a whole

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Speaker 1: is an afterthought this year. Their whole conference stinks for Philly,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and then maybe Dallas and maybe the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seahawks might be decent this year.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks could be there, you go, and that's it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: else is yeah, fourth place, fing rereading water right, So

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have a real shot to do

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Speaker 1: some damage this year. Okay, So I think that and

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Speaker 1: him calling the plays, I think is because that's really

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Speaker 1: how he made his bones in the league.

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Speaker 4: I find the brock Purty thing very interesting. He had

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Speaker 4: a great debut performance last year once he got on

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Speaker 4: the field for them, and it continued. I'm wondering, though,

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Speaker 4: if there's enough tape out there that they've got a

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Speaker 4: book on him. We know Shanahan's scheme is very difficult

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Speaker 4: to decipher and defend against, which certainly helps Purdy. But

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Speaker 4: is there a book on Purdy now where maybe the

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Speaker 4: stats aren't as sexy as they were last year.

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Speaker 3: That's what I wonder about.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, you know what I worry about, Shanahan's offense being

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Speaker 1: such that quarterbacks can't stay healthy in it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean you got, yeah, like nine guys go down with

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Speaker 1: that position and three and Garoppolo couldn't stay healthy his

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Speaker 1: entire career there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm I suspect it's not all just the wrong guy

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Speaker 1: taking snaps. The design of that offense and all it

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Speaker 1: takes is like one play a game to go wrong.

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Speaker 1: But that offense seems to be just invite quarterback injury.

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Speaker 1: And I know everything's different and all that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just so many ways that you

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Speaker 1: can get hurt out there running around with big, strong,

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Speaker 1: nasty dudes. Somehow, some way, it seems to me that

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Speaker 1: that offense, if it has a flaw, that's it. That

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Speaker 1: guy's exposed a little bit too often to awkward physical contact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting take. I hadn't thought of that,

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Speaker 4: and maybe it's something's messed up with the protection.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody says, well, we're gonna run our we're

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Speaker 1: gonna run the Kyle Shanahan offense. Well who does Who

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Speaker 1: runs it?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: You know Miami does, and their quarterback can't stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know. That's probably an over generalization,

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Speaker 1: but I think about it a lot, particularly when they

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Speaker 1: got the same position every year gets nicked.

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Speaker 4: We'll ask the second set of five questions a little

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Speaker 4: bit later on in the show and pick from that list,

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Speaker 4: which is just as interesting. But we got to get

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Speaker 4: to the phones at eight oh three zero five fifty

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Speaker 4: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty since

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Speaker 4: we do have the Friday fan mail bag open, and

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Speaker 4: we lead off with Dave in Florida.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Dave? You're on one Bill's.

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Speaker 7: Life, Real good how your follows doing up there? To

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Speaker 7: smoke clear?

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Speaker 3: Yet it's better today? Thanks, better today?

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right. What I'm calling about is I want

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Speaker 7: to graduate, uh being in the whole staff are putting

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Speaker 7: together a solid tune this year. And the other thing

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Speaker 7: I don't like, and I'm skeptical, I guess is the

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Speaker 7: date of our first game, nine to eleven. And it

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Speaker 7: just brings back bad memories for me. I just want

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Speaker 7: to put that in there, that's all. And you guys

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Speaker 7: have a good weekend. I'm gonna be up there in July.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna come visit y'all. Won't come see you guys

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Speaker 7: in person. And Steve, I watched you, and say I

554
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Speaker 7: watched you. I was a Bills fan in the sixties,

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Speaker 7: season ticket holder in the seventies until I moved down here.

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Speaker 7: Now I'm coming back home, all right, nice one, all right.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, travel safe man, look forward to seeing you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think there are there are people that have a

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Speaker 4: little bit of trepidation about the season opener for a

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Speaker 4: few reasons. Number one, it's on the road, and it's

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Speaker 4: a division game against a team that's expected to be

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Speaker 4: significantly improved because of the quarterback they have and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: But on a secondary level, to Dave's point, I think

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Speaker 4: knowing that the hype, how the hype can build in

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Speaker 4: New York, especially when a team is expected to be good,

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Speaker 4: like the Jets have been by all the national media pundits.

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Speaker 4: And then you roll in the emotion of nine to eleven,

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Speaker 4: which is the date of the game, Monday night, September eleventh,

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Speaker 4: knowing it's going to be the twenty second anniversary of

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Speaker 4: nine to eleven. You know, the pomp and circumstance before

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Speaker 4: the game is going to get everything to a fevered

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Speaker 4: pitch one way.

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Speaker 3: Or the other.

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Speaker 4: Dave, it's a little bit more personal for him, apparently

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Speaker 4: based on what he was saying. He didn't even mention

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Speaker 4: the game. It will hit some people and be difficult

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Speaker 4: even twenty some odd years later. It's hard for some

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Speaker 4: people to deal with. And I totally get it, you know,

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Speaker 4: originally being from downstate when I watch that happen and

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Speaker 4: it shook me. So yeah, I get it, and it

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Speaker 4: is a thing, and it's going to be something that

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Speaker 4: the Bills are going to have to work around because

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Speaker 4: the bottom line is you got to play when they

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Speaker 4: tell you that when the game starts, and the game

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Speaker 4: is going to be kicking off at you know, a

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Speaker 4: twenty something on September eleventh in New Jersey and right

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Speaker 4: across the river from Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not lost. But I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things, Dave, if you want to do, if you

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Speaker 1: do want to if it does mean something you that's

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Speaker 1: on nine to eleven, just know this, and they're going

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Speaker 1: to commemorate that. It won't go unnoticed. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it will be a moment where our country remembers and

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Speaker 1: so they will pay tribute to those people who lost

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Speaker 1: their lives. And you can bet that they will do

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Speaker 1: a very nice job of commemorating that. So don't think

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Speaker 1: that it is being disrespectful in any way, shape or

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Speaker 1: form having the game on that day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have to take a break here. The OBL

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Speaker 4: Friday mail bag is open though for your questions at

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Speaker 4: eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight eight five

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Speaker 4: fifty two five fifty the number to call open lines

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Speaker 4: for you there and we will get to those phone calls.

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Speaker 4: Kevin and Hamburg will lead us off when we return

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Speaker 4: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on one Bill's

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Speaker 4: Live on a Friday obl Fan Friday mail Bag. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 4: Steve Tasker with you, and we are going to go

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Speaker 4: back to the phones for your questions and queries about

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Speaker 4: the Bills or the league. Get large, whatever's on your mind,

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Speaker 4: open line for you at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 4: point fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 3: But we lead off with Kevin and Hamburg. What do

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Speaker 3: you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 8: You're doing okay today and Friday? Yeah, yeah, great, yeah good.

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Speaker 8: When I saw the beginning of the program before you

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Speaker 8: talked about Alvin Cookie, he said about DeAndre visiting Tennessee

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Speaker 8: and then of all people, the Patriots. When he's in

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Speaker 8: the Patriots, I got like my mom would say the

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Speaker 8: heavy gv's or some people say the Willies. I thought,

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Speaker 8: that is like the scariest thought. I mean, the Patriots

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Speaker 8: are finally not as wonderful as they used to be,

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Speaker 8: the last thing we need of all people being Bills fans,

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Speaker 8: is see something to make them better. Not wonderful like

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Speaker 8: they were with number twelve, but a little better. Than

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Speaker 8: what they've been in the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 8: that bought is just like nauseyly, like a bad case

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Speaker 8: of food poisoning or something. It's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 8: I'd rather seem if he's not in the Bill's helmet,

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Speaker 8: I'd rather see him going to the NFC, even if

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Speaker 8: the Seattle or help out Detroit get better or whatever.

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Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna let you yea comment after that.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm sorry your stomach's turning over that, Jevin.

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Speaker 3: I think Steve could talk you.

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Speaker 4: Off the ledge though, because I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: heard him yesterday on the show, he's he's kind of

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Speaker 4: wondering the more he investigates the DeAndre Hopkins situation, if

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Speaker 4: he's on the decline, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I'm certainly he's more further down closer

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Speaker 1: to the end of his career than he is to

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Speaker 1: the beginning. But you know he hasn't You know? He

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Speaker 1: had a six game suspension last year and then he

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Speaker 1: missed Week seventeen and eighteen at the end of a

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Speaker 1: six game losing streak. Whether he shut it down or

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Speaker 1: they shut him down, don't know, don't care, but he did.

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Speaker 1: He only played nine games last year. He was hurt

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Speaker 1: the year before that. Perhaps the ped thing was to

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Speaker 1: recover from whatever injury he had in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Don't know he did not, he has been. It was

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Speaker 1: reported to us on this show that you know, he

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Speaker 1: didn't like to practice all that much, and that could

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Speaker 1: have been, as we said, a function of what he

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Speaker 1: was allowed to do by Cliff Kingsbury, the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there were some other guys who were like that.

657
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Maybe it comes from I have a hard time thinking

658
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is a grinder, but you know, it just

659
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the vibe there. Now, if he goes to New England,

660
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: you know that organization is notoriously a grind weekend week out.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a joyless existence.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if you'd say it's fun either.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's all of that in there. I don't and

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Speaker 1: I don't know that DeAndre Hopkins at this point of

665
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Speaker 1: his career is ready to jump in and go one

666
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: thousand miles an hour for eighteen weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a valid point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see does he take the money or does

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Speaker 4: he go to a contender for below market value? That's

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Speaker 4: the decision we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About that it's one of two things. He's going to

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Speaker 1: take the money or he's gonna go to a contender.

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Speaker 1: He's best. Guess to me, most of those guys take

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Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, because even if you go to the

675
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Speaker 1: best team, it's the best best team in May or

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Speaker 1: June or July. When you choose that, it may not

677
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: be the best team in February, right, And that's a

678
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: that's a roll of the dice always because the best,

679
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, the best teams get a sh shot at it,

680
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: they don't always win it.

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Speaker 4: And there's thirty one teams that are going to finish

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Speaker 4: this season unhappy. Back to the phones and to Tony

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Speaker 4: in Lancaster.

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Speaker 3: What do you got first, Tony.

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Speaker 9: Gentlemen, I'd like to know if it's a possibility to

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Speaker 9: Bills bring in DeAndre Hopkins as a safety valve, just

687
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Speaker 9: in case Stefan Diggs decides not to show up for

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Speaker 9: mini camp and starts the drama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those I don't think those things are linked.

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Speaker 3: To be quite honest with you, Tony, I think.

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Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs is being a little bit misconstrued here. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've talked to a bunch of people about you know,

693
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Speaker 4: people that have asked me about Digs and him, you know,

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00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: mouthing off on the sidelines at the end of the

695
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: Cincinnati playoff game, and more than one of his teammates

696
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: have said that this is a guy that when he's frustrated,

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Speaker 4: he just has to.

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00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: Get it all out, he has to get it all

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Speaker 3: off his chest.

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Speaker 4: He's got to spout off and just say everything, and

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Speaker 4: then after that he's fine. It just so happened that

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Speaker 4: television cameras caught that at the end of the Cincinnati game,

703
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: and people believe because they saw that there's obviously a problem.

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Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs is a very smart man. He knows how

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Speaker 4: good he has it here.

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Speaker 3: That's number one.

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Speaker 4: Number two, his dead cap hit is forty five point

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Speaker 4: four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: That also.

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Speaker 4: Makes you know, any kind of thing like you're suggesting,

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Speaker 4: essentially untenable.

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Speaker 1: So do I mean? Steph Diggs is the same wide

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: receiver today as he was when everybody said when he

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Speaker 1: left Minnesota that he was gonna blow it up. He

715
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: was gonna be and you can't. He won't be able

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Speaker 1: to live with Josh Allen. He'll be so fussy. He's

717
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a Davas step He has been nothing but

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00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: stellar with Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: And they made him a team captain, which they don't

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Speaker 4: hand out just willy nilly.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't think now that he's gonna change. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to He's the same guy today as he was

723
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Speaker 1: when they got him and when he was catching touchdowns

724
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: and and all of that stuff. Don't He's the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's not. Nothing's changed for him. He's like

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Speaker 1: it's like Brownie said, you make the camp cameras or whatever,

727
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: make catch him yelling on the sidelines or screaming or whatever.

728
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Speaker 1: But I know this. He and Josh Allen are buddies,

729
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: close friends, and they don't want to play on the

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Speaker 1: team without each other. I mean they you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So don't I mean this this drama that

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Speaker 1: you always hear about from Steph digg it and I

733
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Speaker 1: just don't. I'm with you, brown I just don't think

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Speaker 1: it exists. He's not that kind of guy artificially when

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Speaker 1: people when people see him yelling on the sidelines, even

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Speaker 1: if he's yelling in Josh's face, don't worry about that.

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Speaker 3: Steve can tell you how many times that.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. That's that's that is group dynamics.

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Speaker 1: And everybody on the sideline when they hear Steph doing that,

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: all the players they're like, okay, they they they know

741
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: exactly what context to put that into the relationship with

742
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Josh and Steph and all of us.

743
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Speaker 3: And the context is just let him finish.

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00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, we we had guys like that on the teams

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Speaker 1: I played with. Every team has guys where if they

746
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: do something like that, all the guys are gonna that's

747
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: just that's just Steph being Steph. That's just him being him.

748
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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, and that It really is that way.

749
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Speaker 1: So I don't care if Steph Digg shows up to

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Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp next week or not. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna, he's gonna show up in training camp, he's

752
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: gonna show up during the season. The guys the guy

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: can go and he's gonna and he's gonna go. Yea.

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Speaker 1: So it's voluntary. It wasn't widely publicized. There's a ton

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: of guys that didn't show up yesterday because there was

756
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Speaker 1: a wedding. I mean, it's voluntary, bro.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's mandatory. Next week though, and that's what people

758
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Speaker 4: are concerned about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be I don't think they even if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't show up, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and to Chris

762
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Speaker 4: and Elman.

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Speaker 3: Next. What do you got for us, Chris?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice to talk to you guys. And two questions

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Speaker 2: about the quarterback situation. I was always wondering whether in

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Speaker 2: the old days they talked about whether the way a

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00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: quarterback through whether it was easy to catch or it

768
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Speaker 2: was hard to catch. And also what the Bill's backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback situation is.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, I'm not going to pretend to know, because

771
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Speaker 4: he hasn't been around long enough. If Kyle Allen's ball

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Speaker 4: is an easy ball to catch, we'll have to ask

773
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Speaker 4: some receivers as we get him on the show or

774
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Speaker 4: talk to them after practices in the coming days. Are

775
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Speaker 4: in training camp. But Kyle Allen is essentially here to

776
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Speaker 4: be the backup QB. Matt Barkley is also here. He

777
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: spent most of last season on the practice squad when

778
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Speaker 4: case Keenum was the backup. I would anticipate the plan

779
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: anyway is to probably move in that same direction. I

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Speaker 4: suppose you know, Barkley and Allen are battling for the

781
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Speaker 4: backup quarterback job. Both are good friends of Josh as well.

782
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Speaker 4: But I've got to see a little more of Kyle

783
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Speaker 4: Allen before I can kind of weigh in on his

784
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: skill set and his blend with receiver.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether Chris is talking about Josh throwing

786
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Speaker 1: easy to catch football or not. It's easy enough, and

787
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Speaker 1: in this day and age, I think it's become less

788
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: of a talking point because quarterbacks, the elite ones like Josh, Mahomes, Burrow,

789
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: Herbert Lawrence, all these guys, they throw the ball in

790
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: so many different ways, like touch passes, darts, long balls,

791
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: three three quarter arm off platform stuff, So the ball

792
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: comes out a lot of different ways. But back in

793
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: the day, when they caught, when they threw an easy

794
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: to catch ball, it was the way they spun it.

795
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: Some guys spun it really fast, and it was like

796
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: catching a cheese grater, and it was really hard. That

797
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: ceased to be a big talking point when players started

798
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: wearing gloves. The gloves allow the receivers to attack the

799
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: ball and not worry about getting the skin on their

800
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: hands taking off or its stinging so bad it won't sting.

801
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: So they now with guys wearing gloves, you don't hear

802
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: so much about easy ball to catch, hard ball to catch,

803
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And and this about Kyle Allen.

804
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I don't care if Kyle Allen

805
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: can play quarterback, and I don't care if Mac Barkley can

806
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: play quarterback. That's not what they're here for. They're not

807
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: here to play. They're here to get Josh to play

808
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: better during the week, during the games, during the practices,

809
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: during meetings, and on the sidelines during games. Those guys

810
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: are there to support Josh and get him ready. It's

811
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: not about getting two guys or three guys ready to play.

812
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: It's about getting one guy ready to play his best.

813
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: That's why the other quarterbacks are here in Buffalo. It's

814
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: Barkley and Out and Kyle Allen's job to get Josh

815
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Allen to play his best. Help him do that. Help

816
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: be the quarterback coach, Help the quarterback coach, help the

817
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Be a creative voice, be a sounding board,

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00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: Be a voice in Josh's ear that he can trust.

819
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Be a voice in Josh's ear that holds him accountable.

820
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Be a voice in Josh's ear that gives him trouble

821
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Speaker 1: when he does the wrong, Like, hey, bro, you can't

822
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: do that. Somebody who he can trust to tell him

823
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: the truth and still be his best bud. So don't

824
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: worry if Kyle Allen can't play or whether he can,

825
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: nobody cares. All you care about is as Kyle Allen

826
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: and Matt Barkley and Ken Dorsey and the quarterbacks coach

827
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Speaker 1: get him, get Josh ready to play. That's all they're

828
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: here for. Joe Brady, Joe Brady, I'm sorry, sorry, Joe,

829
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: Joe Brady. That's why they're there. So that's remember that

830
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: when you talk about the quarterback and backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Break time for us here fred In Rochester, Jeff and

832
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: Amherst will lead us off when we come back. As

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Speaker 4: we have more of your phone calls. Next here on

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Speaker 4: One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 4: It's an OBL fan Friday mailbag. Right back to the

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Speaker 4: phones and to fred In Rochester, what do you got

838
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Speaker 4: for his Fred You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 10: Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call. I got a question. Well,

840
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 10: first of all, I wonder what was going on with

841
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 10: Cole Beasley. Is he has he retired or is he

842
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 10: out in the you know, is he still available at

843
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 10: what's going on with him? I'm kind of interested, but

844
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 10: kind of off on a tangent here. I noticed that

845
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 10: the uniform colors on the Bills, they never have a

846
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 10: uniform with the red over the white or the white

847
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 10: over the red. And I often wondered why that they

848
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 10: have every other combination of colors with the red, white,

849
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 10: and blue, but they don't have a red jersey over

850
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 10: white pants or white jersey over red pants. That's kind

851
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 10: of a little that's a little off in a tangent,

852
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Speaker 10: but I wonder why that is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're wide open for those questions for had no problem,

854
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: Thanks for the yeah, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 3: I would say the first.

856
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: The first thing Cole Beasley. He was brought back last

857
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: season out of necessity when the Bills weren't getting the

858
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: product in the passing game that they wanted in the

859
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: second half of the season from the likes of Isaiah McKenzie,

860
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Gabriel Davis and others, so they brought back players that

861
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 4: they thought could maybe provide more reliability in the passing game.

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00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: Cole Beasley was one. John Brown was the other. Coleb

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: Easley's now thirty four years old. I'm not going to

864
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: say he's lost a step, but I think the Bills

865
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: know they're not in a position where they can run

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00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: it back again. They have to give the time to

867
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: this youth that's, you know, growing into larger roles. And

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00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: they shuffle the deck in free agency as well with

869
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Speaker 4: Trent Sherfield and Deontay Hardy. But I think Khalil Shakir

870
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: is going to grow into a little bit bigger role

871
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 4: this year, and I think Dalton kin Kate is going

872
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: to grow into a role this year as well, And

873
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 4: I would guess by the end of the season those

874
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: two are contributing significantly more than even in September or

875
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: October if things go well. So that, I don't think

876
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: Beasley's in the cars. He is a free agent. He

877
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: is still out there, but yeah, his his career could

878
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: very well be over.

879
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: We'll see.

880
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's officially retired, if that's right. No,

881
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: you do have to fill out retirement papers when you're

882
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so that he I don't think he's

883
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: done that yet. And I simply think, as Brownie and

884
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I have mentioned, without mentioning Cole Beasley, and specifically the

885
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: receiving corps of the Bills is going to be vastly

886
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: different and much younger than it was a year ago.

887
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: There's only three guys coming back who were on the

888
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: roster last year for games, and it's Shaki Davison and

889
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, the three of those guys. That's the only

890
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: three guys back. And they there were times when they

891
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: had six guys active and plus like eight guys or

892
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: nine guys on the roster or at least in the building.

893
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: So all those guys are all going to be new

894
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: and for the most part, obviously they're younger, and secondly

895
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: they're much bigger physically that I think that's a trend.

896
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: Back to the phones into Jeff and Amherst here, what do.

897
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 11: You got for his Jeff, Hey, Stephen Chris, thanks for

898
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 11: protecting my call.

899
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

900
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 11: I love your show.

901
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh, thanks, appreciate it.

902
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, no problem. I wanted to talk about protecting Josh Allen,

903
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 11: specifically when he's in the pocket making his throws, because

904
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 11: when I look back at last year in that Jets

905
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 11: game when he injured his elbow, he was not the

906
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 11: same after that. I think it's absolutely paramount especially through

907
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 11: the pocket, that we protect him because we know when

908
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 11: he gets outside of the pocket, Josh can make things happen,

909
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 11: and I, you know, I think that's where it all starts.

910
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 11: I'm worried about our offensive line because I read a

911
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 11: stat the other day that we ranked twenty fifth in

912
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 11: the league as far as protecting our quarterback.

913
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they have made investments there, Jeff. That's the

914
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: good news. Their largest free agent contract in terms of

915
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: total value was given to Connor McGovern who's going to

916
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: probably be a starter on that line, presumably at left guard,

917
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: where he also played in Dallas, and then the right

918
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: guard position. I think Ryan Bates is going to have

919
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 4: stiff competition in the form of second round picko Cyrus

920
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: Torrance and three year starter out of LA and David Edwards,

921
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: who both play the guard position. So your point about

922
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: the pocket is well noted, and I think the Bill's

923
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: personnel department and the coaching staff saw it the same way.

924
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: All three of those men are over three hundred and

925
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: twenty pounds, and I think it's it's with the aim

926
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: of the integrity of the pocket and making it better

927
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: for Josh to operate, not to just keep people off

928
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: of him, but to protect it and keep the integrity

929
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: of the pocket in such a way that he can

930
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: step into more throws in the pocket.

931
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: Not that he owe his needs to.

932
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: We've seen him make plays off his back foot falling

933
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: away and he's still throwing at forty yards. But there

934
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: has been a heavy investment up front this offseason, particularly

935
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: at the guard position, and I think it's with what

936
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: you're talking about in mind.

937
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, and I'll read you you know

938
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: the just the guys that are listed only at guard

939
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: or maybe center guard. Uh, you've got Ike Butker, Nick Broker,

940
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: David Edwards, Connor McGovern, Osiris, Torrents, Ryan Bates. Uh, those

941
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: guys are guys that just guard. Now there's some guys

942
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: that are guard slash tackles later on. But you know,

943
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: Ike Butcker's sixty six three thirteen, Nick Broker sixty four

944
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: to three oh five, David Edwards is six six three

945
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: oh eight, Connor McGovern sixty five three eighteen, Osiris is

946
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: sixty five three forty seven, and Ryan Bates is sixty

947
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: four three oh two. Now I know that you know,

948
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: three bills is a big number, and I know that

949
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: it's not just the size down there, that makes a difference.

950
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: But the athleticism, I agree with you. And Jay, our producer,

951
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: tweeted out a couple of weeks ago about a rant

952
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: about me going off on why I don't care if

953
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Josh runs it more or whatever. God, I don't worry

954
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: about him when he runs the ball. I worry about

955
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: him in the pocket. I'm exactly like you, Jeff. That's

956
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: when Josh gets hurt is when he's standing in the pocket,

957
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: and I think the Bills know it, and they're trying

958
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: to find a way, find ways and get guys who

959
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: can stone people at the line of scrimmage and give

960
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: chance Josh a chance to throw a little bit. It's

961
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: always going to be on Josh because, as we know,

962
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: when it's not there, he pulls it down and takes off.

963
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: But if he can drop back and get rid of

964
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: it in two and a half seconds, he will be

965
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: safe back there with these guys up in front of him.

966
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: And the Bills have made, like Brownie said, a huge

967
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: effort to make sure the guys in front of him

968
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: stand are up to it. And not only then, but

969
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: the guys behind them, the backups. They're gonna have good

970
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: depth as well.

971
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: Even in the lake going. They added Brandon Shells just

972
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. This is a guy who's

973
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: been a four year starter in the league at the

974
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 4: tackle position, primarily right tackle. He's gonna be even more

975
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: competition for Spencer Brown. So yeah, they're not resting on

976
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: their laurels up front for sure. Break time for us,

977
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 4: But when we come back, we're going to talk about

978
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: a little scheming and where it's headed in this league

979
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: in terms of offense versus defense with NFL writer for

980
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: The Ringer Stephen Ruiz, who charted five games last year

981
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: and has an idea on where scheming is heading. We'll

982
00:51:30,719 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: talk to him next here on One Bill's Live. This

983
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: these one Bills Live presented by Calledlida Health.

984
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Friday.

985
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and happy to be

986
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 4: joined now by NFL writer for The Ringer Stephen Ruiz,

987
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: who recently put together a lengthy column about where scheming

988
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: is headed in twenty twenty three and cited five specific games,

989
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: one of which included the Bills, to kind of point

990
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: us in that direction. Steven, thanks for joining us first

991
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: and foremost, if there is a general overview, because we

992
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: will get into some of these games that you referenced

993
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: in your story. If there's a general overview that you

994
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: pull out of this, what would you say is the

995
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 4: headline from where for where scheme wars are headed.

996
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 12: I think it's being able to do more or stematically,

997
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 12: being able to have more variation on both sides of

998
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 12: the ball. I think we've seen this with the Bills

999
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 12: over the past couple of years. Though the offense has

1000
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 12: been super productive, there have been times in the playoffs

1001
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 12: where not being able to run the ball has hamstring

1002
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 12: them a little bit, and it allows defenses to sit

1003
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 12: on certain concepts and make the things that the Bills

1004
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 12: do well, for instance, it makes it harder to do so.

1005
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 12: I think that's where the league is going, and that

1006
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 12: Bills Rams game that was the game I highlighted At first.

1007
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 12: I thought that was the first time we saw this

1008
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 12: Bill's offense, the potential of what it could be if

1009
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 12: you do have a run game, if you are able

1010
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 12: to go under center and run the ball and call

1011
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 12: play action or go.

1012
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 6: Into the gun and call a little quick game.

1013
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 12: I thought it showed the full breadth of not only

1014
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 12: the skill set of Josh Allen, who I think is

1015
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 12: like the focal point of the offense, but the skill

1016
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 12: players on a team, and I think the more that

1017
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 12: they lean into that diversity, the more you're gonna see

1018
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 12: players like Dawson Knox or Gabe Davis kind of break

1019
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 12: out and start to produce as we're expecting them to

1020
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 12: produce as young players.

1021
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about being under center, and then you

1022
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: know so many teams are exclusively shotgun, and we see

1023
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: team coaches like Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan vacillate between

1024
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: under center one year and then getting away from it

1025
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: the next year. What to do to the defense? Why

1026
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: under center? Why shotgun? Explain the differences and what it

1027
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: does to the defense, because I.

1028
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 12: Just think you have to respect the run game and

1029
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 12: the different types of concepts you see from under center.

1030
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 12: It's hard to run an exotic scheme from shotgun unless

1031
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 12: we hit the quarterback involved. And now there are teams

1032
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 12: that are able to do that, Like the Eagles were

1033
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 12: not afraid of zenied On Jalen Hurts in the run game.

1034
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 12: The Bills, I feel like, have been reluctant at times

1035
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 12: just because of the value Josh Allen presents to this franchise.

1036
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 6: I mean, he is the franchise. They're paying him like it.

1037
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 6: You can't have that guy on the sideline heard.

1038
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 12: And we saw what happened to that offense when he

1039
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 12: got a little banged up last year when he heard

1040
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 12: the elbow. We saw the offense kind of regress to

1041
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 12: where it had been the past couple of years. And

1042
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 12: you saw the progress they had made over September, in

1043
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 12: the first part of October kind of dwindle away, and

1044
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 12: by the end of the year the offense was kind

1045
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 12: of a little too reliant on the big play, a

1046
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 12: little too reliant on Josh Allen being able to create.

1047
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 12: And that's what happens when you're in the gun. I

1048
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 12: think it's easier, like I said earlier, for teams to

1049
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 12: sit on what you're doing. You can only run a

1050
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 12: certain amount of concepts, especially if that quarterback isn't a

1051
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 12: threat to pull the ball. Now you're really only running

1052
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 12: like inside zone, maybe outside zone. Even that's kind of weird.

1053
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 12: To run from the gun, it's really hard, and I

1054
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 12: thought cam Dorsey did a really good job down the

1055
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 12: stretch of figuring out ways to still run the football

1056
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 12: even though the defense and the interior line wasn't necessarily

1057
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 12: set up the block and the defense was able to

1058
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 12: sit on other stuff around the run game.

1059
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you did astutely point out and you're write up that,

1060
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, the elbow injury to Josh impacted the short throws, which,

1061
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: as you outlined in the season opener, really diversified Buffalo's attack,

1062
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: and that is why it's probably a big reason why

1063
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: the offense looked like such a heavy lift at times

1064
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: in the second half of the season because that element

1065
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: we call him the easy button throws for Josh that

1066
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: Cole Beasley made so popular when he was here, you know,

1067
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: his first three seasons in a Bill's uniform. That kind

1068
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 4: of went away last year for a number of reasons.

1069
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: But I think because with that elbow injury, it was

1070
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: harder for Josh to put proper touch on the underneath throws,

1071
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: and I think it's part of the reason why we

1072
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: saw more long throws down the field. So that's one element.

1073
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 4: But I want to spin it forward to this year,

1074
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: Steven and get your thoughts on this. I don't think

1075
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: there's any question that the Bills have upgraded the guard

1076
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: position with Connor McGovern Osiris Torrance and David Edwards from

1077
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: the Rams, big men who can move the pile number one,

1078
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: and then number two. They upgraded the running back position

1079
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: with Damian Harris and Latavius Murray with a second year

1080
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 4: James Cook who figures to be the feature.

1081
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: Guy, so in a committee backfield.

1082
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Speaker 4: For what it's worth, my point is those two elements

1083
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: plus Dalton kincaid makes me think that we're probably gonna

1084
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: be looking at a lot more under center pre snap.

1085
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, that's what you would think. And it seems

1086
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 12: like the Bills have kind of been a year behind

1087
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 12: the Chiefs. The Chiefs kind of went through the same

1088
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 12: evolution last year, and I think the running backs, the

1089
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 12: running back signings like bring in Murray, bring in Harris,

1090
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 12: two guys that they're not gonna get you, you know,

1091
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 12: twenty five thirty yard games, but they're gonna turn a

1092
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 12: two yard game into a three yard game. And though

1093
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 12: that yard matters, like second and six is way different

1094
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 12: in this league compared to like second and seven, second

1095
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 12: and eight. And I thought that's what the Chiefs realized.

1096
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 12: The Chiefs the past couple of years had kind of

1097
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 12: been like when they drafted h Clyde Edwards Hilaire was

1098
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 12: he was a receiving back.

1099
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 6: He wasn't really a runner.

1100
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 12: And I thought that was an example of them trying

1101
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 12: to build upon what they already did well the passing

1102
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 12: game and not getting bring in like a physical runner

1103
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 12: a plan be, so to speak, like a guy that

1104
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 12: gives you a different pitch, a different an off speed pitch.

1105
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 12: And I think bringing in Damien Harris, you're gonna be

1106
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 12: able to run like these physical run concepts that maybe

1107
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 12: you weren't able to run with a Devin Singletary because

1108
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 12: he's just not that type of runner.

1109
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 6: And then you add in the tight ends.

1110
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 12: And then like you said, now you can run a

1111
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 12: little more under center because you do have these these

1112
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 12: movable pieces in the backgard Like you can line up

1113
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 12: Dawson Knox as an H backer or now that you

1114
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 12: have Dalton and Kade, you can have him do that

1115
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 12: instead of Dawson Knocks and have him play his typical role.

1116
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 12: And I think that just makes it easier to diversify things. So,

1117
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 12: and that's the theme, diversify things.

1118
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Damien Harris is kind of like Buffalo's version

1119
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: of Isaiah Pacheco a downhill runner.

1120
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, how much did Christian McCaffrey change things for

1121
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers last year? They were kind of

1122
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: criticized at the beginning, and then they just said they

1123
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: just thought that guy might unlock what they wanted to

1124
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: do offensively. How did he change things when the Niners

1125
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: got him last year? Because once he got into the game,

1126
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: as you said in your article, they didn't lose another

1127
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: regular season game when they got Christian McCaffrey on the field.

1128
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, they didn't lose again until they had a quarterback

1129
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 12: who literally couldn't throw the football in the NFC title game.

1130
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 12: I thought it just made we talked about the easier

1131
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 12: plays for Josh Allen. I thought it gave Jimmy Garoppolo

1132
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 12: and brock Perty eventually easier plays where Kyle Shanahan didn't

1133
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 12: necessarily have to set him up with the play call.

1134
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 12: Because this is a team that liked to go under center,

1135
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 12: liked to run the outside zone and then set up

1136
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 12: the play action off of that the bootleg get the

1137
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 12: quarterback outside of the pocket, and that was getting harder

1138
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 12: and harder to do because defenses were just you know,

1139
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 12: getting better at defending it, because that's become the most

1140
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 12: popular way to play. We've seen the McVay and the

1141
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 12: Shanahan guys kind of spread throughout the league. Those guys

1142
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 12: a couple of years ago, we're getting all the head

1143
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 12: coaching jobs, and that offense has spread well. When that

1144
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 12: offense spread, defensive coordinators started looking for answers, and I

1145
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 12: thought like the answer was that the Vic Fangio tree,

1146
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 12: which we've kind of seen we've seen grow.

1147
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: In popularity of the last couple of years.

1148
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 12: It grew in popularity because it was so good at

1149
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 12: defending the Shanahan and stuff. So you saw Shanahan kind

1150
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 12: of have to go away from his bread and butter

1151
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 12: and find a new way to make things easier on

1152
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 12: his quarterback. And I thought McCaffrey was a great addition

1153
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 12: because you can run him out of the backfield and

1154
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 12: it's not like those traditional running back routes where you're

1155
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 12: not going to get a lot of yards throwing like

1156
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 12: a swing pass to a running back as like your

1157
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 12: check down option. McCaffrey was like the focal point of

1158
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 12: the play, like he would run out of the backfield

1159
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 12: and run a little option route against a linebacker and

1160
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 12: after a while, like those six seven yard games on

1161
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 12: first down start to pile up, defensive coordinators get a

1162
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 12: little anty and they're like, we have to do something

1163
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 12: about this.

1164
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: We had to stop Christian McCaffrey.

1165
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 12: Whether that's like a bracket or a double team, but

1166
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 12: they had to stop something and that opened up the

1167
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 12: middle of the field like play action used to do.

1168
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 12: So it was like getting the same effect from play

1169
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 12: action without having to invest in the run game and

1170
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 12: run play action a lot.

1171
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 6: And you saw that in their numbers. They went to the.

1172
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 12: Gun a little bit more and they stopped calling play

1173
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 12: action as much we had.

1174
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: In your right up there were a couple of quarterbacks

1175
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 4: who I think we would all can to be rhythm throwers,

1176
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: Garoppolo Tua. I mean, these are guys that rely on

1177
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: the play design, drop back, let it fly. And you

1178
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: kind of pointed out how simulated pressures kind of defeated

1179
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: that timing and really force them to pat the ball,

1180
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: and now the timing of the play is off and

1181
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 4: you've got them. I remember watching the Dolphins Chargers game

1182
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 4: out in LA. I was fascinated by Staley's defensive game

1183
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 4: plan in that game. Brandon Staley the Chargers head coach,

1184
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: Bills fans will be interested, like, is there a blueprint

1185
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: to at least get off on the right foot against

1186
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 4: the Dolphins offense with the right kind of simulated pressure

1187
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: scheme or is that in the past now and McDaniel

1188
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: will have an answer for that, and you better come

1189
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: up with something else now.

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 12: I think it's just something you have to have now

1191
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 12: in your bag of tools. Like you look at the

1192
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 12: college level, and that's where the college game is going.

1193
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 12: And I've always thought the college game kind of is

1194
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 12: a year or two ahead of the pro game, and

1195
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 12: you start to see some concepts, and the more successful

1196
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 12: concepts trickle up, and I think that's one of them.

1197
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 12: And I think the more the better offenses get at

1198
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 12: doing a lot of different things, the more you're.

1199
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 6: Gonna have to get creative on defense.

1200
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 12: And the Bills have done simulated pressures in the past,

1201
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 12: like Sean McDermott Leslie Frasier when he was the defensive coordinator.

1202
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 12: They did the stuff, but they didn't really invest in it.

1203
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 12: And I think that's that's what makes it hard for

1204
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 12: a team like Buffalo, especially last year, and they had

1205
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 12: all the injuries, so the way they play defense. They

1206
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 12: kind of just lined up and played and like relied

1207
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 12: on execution, relied on good fundamentals. Quarterbacks are getting too

1208
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 12: good now, receivers are getting too good. Play college are

1209
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 12: getting too good. You have to have changeups, you can

1210
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 12: throw out them. You have to be able to keep

1211
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 12: the offense, you know, off their front foot. And I

1212
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 12: think that's just one way to do with the simulated pressures.

1213
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 12: And another thing simulated pressures do, and I think the

1214
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 12: reason why they're so effective is they force you to

1215
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 12: keep that backing and protect. You don't get that fifth

1216
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 12: receiver out into the route. Now, all of a sudden,

1217
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 12: the defense has fewer players to guard and they're not

1218
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 12: coming up to tackle the running back, you know. And

1219
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 12: I thought that was a big key for like Joe Burrow,

1220
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 12: for instance, his maturation last year. You saw him stop

1221
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 12: taking sacks because he started using his running back as

1222
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 12: an outlet more And I wrote about the Ravens game

1223
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 12: in the playoffs when they almost upset Cincinnati, and that

1224
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 12: was a big part of their game plan. Their defensive

1225
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 12: game plan was making sure that running back state in protection.

1226
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 12: And the way you do that is you just you

1227
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 12: send blitzers from each in every direction, so the offense

1228
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 12: doesn't know where it's coming from, and their only recource is, hey,

1229
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 12: let's just keep sixing to protect, and that's the only

1230
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 12: way we're gonna be saved.

1231
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: We're having conversations in Buffalo about Josh Allen, and certainly

1232
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: early in his career they used him as for called

1233
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: runs in the running game. They've gotten away from that

1234
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: now and they just you know, when he wants to run,

1235
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: he pulls it down in the passing game and makes

1236
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: it happen. We've seen other teams, like you mentioned it

1237
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game a year ago. The Niners

1238
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: are down to their fourth guy and now and then

1239
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: the emergency guy in that game is there's something in

1240
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers philosophy that gets quarterbacks nicked. Because

1241
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: Garoppolo couldn't stay healthy out there, then they went through

1242
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the entire roster. It seems to be a common problem

1243
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: every single years. And I don't think you can point

1244
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: at Jimmy Garoppolo and say it's his fault, not for

1245
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: what happened this last year. What is it? And we've

1246
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: had the conversation quarterbacks get hurt in the pocket, not

1247
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: when they're running around down the field. What's that conversation?

1248
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: Where's that take you?

1249
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's hard to ignore the pattern, right,

1250
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 12: Like you said, it's not just Jimmy, Like we've seen

1251
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 12: Rocket hurt.

1252
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 6: We saw Tree Lance get hurt. I mean, go back

1253
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 6: to Tyles days in Washington and saw Argie three get hurt.

1254
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 12: Do you think there's something about the offense about like

1255
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 12: getting the quarterback outside of the pocket.

1256
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 6: And I know, like traditionally.

1257
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 12: Injuries, like you said, don't happen outside of the pocket,

1258
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 12: but those are scrambles, those aren't like design rollouts, right,

1259
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 12: So I think just part of the scheme, you're kind

1260
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 12: of exposing quarterbacks to those hits.

1261
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 6: And then think about like a play action play like

1262
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 6: a bootleg.

1263
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 12: Whenever we see a sack happen on TV, when there's

1264
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 12: a tight end and protection on the defensive end, where

1265
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 12: always like why did they block in with a tight end?

1266
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 12: And it's usually because they're like running some type of

1267
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 12: boot and you have to have usually have you can

1268
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 12: keep that defensive end at bay because of the boot action,

1269
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 12: because of the run fake. But sometimes the defensive end

1270
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 12: guess is right, and that's kind of what happened against Perdy.

1271
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 12: You saw Hassan Reddik kind of take them out from

1272
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 12: behind it, and I just think it's the system just

1273
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 12: maybe exposes quarterbacks of those hits that other systems.

1274
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 6: Don't do it as often.

1275
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 12: And like, honestly, it's the same deal with the running backs, right,

1276
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 12: They've had a hard time keeping running backs healthy, and

1277
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 12: maybe there's some common denominator there between the running backs

1278
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 12: and the quarterbacks because they do ask both to kind

1279
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 12: of attack the edges of the defense.

1280
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 4: Steven, just a few minutes ago, you mentioned how last

1281
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: year the Bills, doing part to their injury situation, just

1282
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 4: had to line up and play and just try to

1283
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: play sound fundamental defense. You have a new play caller

1284
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 4: in Sean McDermott this year, number one, and then number two.

1285
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: They've added some chess pieces.

1286
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: Here like Leonard Floyd, Poon Afford Taylor Rap, I mean,

1287
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 4: proven starting caliber players to add to the defense. We

1288
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: know they roll them through up front. Do you think

1289
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: it affords McDermott to maybe be a little more exotic

1290
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 4: at times on the defensive side of the ball, maybe

1291
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 4: to your simulated pressure point and to just look a

1292
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: little bit different from week to week.

1293
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 6: I do. I mean, you think about Sean mcdermot's background.

1294
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 12: He coached under Jim Johnson, and Jim Johnson was like

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Speaker 12: the father of the double a gat blitz, which is

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Speaker 12: that's one of the tools teams go to when they

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Speaker 12: want to kind of like play with the quarterback's mind.

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Speaker 12: I do think we're gonna see a return of that,

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Speaker 12: and I think like the departure from Leslie Fraser, who

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Speaker 12: came from that like Tampa to basically we're gonna line

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Speaker 12: up and play, We're just gonna out execute your style

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Speaker 12: of defense. So maybe that's a sign that he is

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Speaker 12: going back more to his roots, which were more exotic.

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Speaker 12: I really think they need to. I thought, I mean,

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Speaker 12: it's so hard to judge last year is because of

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Speaker 12: the injuries, but those Bengals games, even the first one

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Speaker 12: where we only saw like a couple of drives, the

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Speaker 12: Bengals just march right down, score a touchdown. And then

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Speaker 12: the second the playoff game, they just did whatever they

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Speaker 12: want really and I thought it was because they were

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Speaker 12: giving Joe Burrow the answers to the test before he

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Speaker 12: took it. And with a quarterback like that, if he

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Speaker 12: knows what you're in good luck, Like, I don't know

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Speaker 12: how you survive that, And the same goes for all

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Speaker 12: the other top quarterbacks, and you're gonna have to beat

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Speaker 12: these guys in the playoffs. Like I thought, the way

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Speaker 12: the defense had been set up was great for the

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Speaker 12: regular season because you're not gonna play Patrick Mahomes. Some weeks,

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Speaker 12: you're gonna play Zach Wilson, some Leaks are gonna play

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Speaker 12: Mac Jones. So I think playing that style of defense

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Speaker 12: makes sense over like a larger sample size. But if

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Speaker 12: you need to win a game in January, I think

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Speaker 12: you have to have you Like I've been saying, you

1324
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 12: have to have change ups, you have to have curve balls.

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Speaker 12: I don't think the Bill's defense had that last year,

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Speaker 12: and you saw in the playoff game against the Bengals

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Speaker 12: they kind of tried to replicate what the Ravens did

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Speaker 12: and try to disguise coverages, but they when you don't

1329
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 12: practice it and now you're trying to roll it out

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Speaker 12: in the biggest game of the year, it's tough.

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Speaker 6: And we saw what happened.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about the New England Patriots. Last

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Speaker 1: year was a little bit of a debacle offensively, and

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Speaker 1: it that most of that information came from the inside.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those guys were struggling to get plays called

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Speaker 1: and have a cohesive plan. Mac Jones vented on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines a bunch of times. Now they've got Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: back in the building. What how did their offense change?

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Speaker 1: I mean tangent just from watching and how did it

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Speaker 1: change from twenty one to twenty two, and how do

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Speaker 1: you expect it to change from last year to this?

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Speaker 6: I thought they kind of threw Mac in the deepense.

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Speaker 12: And it's not just with like hiring a former defensive

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 12: coordinator to be his offensive coordinator. I just thought it

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Speaker 12: was a more grown up offense. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 12: belittle what he had done the year before, but when

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Speaker 12: Josh McDaniels was there, it was a lot of like

1348
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Speaker 12: under center play action, We're gonna run the ball, We're

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Speaker 12: gonna like do end a rounds, a lot of constraint

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Speaker 12: plays to like keep the defense on its toes, and

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Speaker 12: then Mac every now and then they would dial up

1352
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 12: a deep shot downfield out lat year. They try to

1353
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Speaker 12: put they try to give them more ownership of the offense.

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Speaker 12: They ran a lot of quick game that's usually the

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Speaker 12: type of style of offense you see from the field

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Speaker 12: general type of quarterbacks, which I feel like Mac has

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Speaker 12: to be in order to be a good player in

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Speaker 12: this league. He has to operate like a Drew Brees

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Speaker 12: and then Drew Brees is secret. I mean that was

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Speaker 12: his weapon was quick game. He took the hike, he.

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Speaker 6: Got the ball out on time, and it didn't really work.

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Speaker 6: And I think one of like.

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Speaker 12: The lasting images from last year was Mac Jones on

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Speaker 12: the sideline saying like quick game sucks, Like we got

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Speaker 12: to start throwing the ball downfield. They don't really have

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Speaker 12: the pieces to do that. They don't have the field stretchers.

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Speaker 12: I think they're trying to get to that point with

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Speaker 12: Taekwon Thornton. I think they want him to take a

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Speaker 12: step forward this year. But I think it's going to

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Speaker 12: be the same style of offense, just a little more professional.

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Speaker 12: I think it's the behind the scenes stuff is where

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Speaker 12: we're going to see the improvements, like the play calling,

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Speaker 12: pre snap operation, uh, just using your timeouts. They were

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 12: penalized a lot last year. Avoiding penalties. I think those

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01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 12: little things go a long way, and I think that

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 12: style of offense makes the most sense and I think

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Speaker 12: Bill O'Brien is more qualified. He has a more capacity

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 12: to kind of coach that we saw it in Houston,

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Speaker 12: even with limited quarterback talent. So I'm kind of higher

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 12: on the Patriots, and I think a lot of people

1381
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 12: there's a lot of doom and loom around the organization,

1382
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 12: a lot of people questioning Matt Jones.

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Speaker 6: I think the offense will be just fine.

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Speaker 12: I think they have some decent pieces and Bill O'Brien's

1385
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 12: a good, proven play caller in this league. So whatever

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 12: problems were there last year, I really think have been

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Speaker 12: eradicated just by bringing in a professional offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Steven, thanks much for the time. We appreciate it, especially

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01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 4: on a Friday. We'll catch up with you down the line.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy your summer.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Steven.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's Stephen Ruiz, NFL writer for The Ringer.

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Speaker 4: If you want to have an idea or get an

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 4: idea as to where the scheme competition is headed amongst

1396
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 4: coaches in this league, coordinators we're talking about, obviously, you

1397
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Speaker 4: can go to The Ringer dot com and his story there,

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 4: which just came out earlier this week. Five games from

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty two season that explain the next level

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Speaker 4: of NFL scheme wars. It's a long raad, but it's

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Speaker 4: really informative.

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Speaker 3: I liked it a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as I was talking to him, Steve, You've

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: got rhythm quarterbacks in your division like Tua and Mac.

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: These are guys that if you just mess up the

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: timing of the play, you can get them to pat

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01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 4: the ball and now your rush can get home. What

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Speaker 4: the Chargers did in that game, I want to say.

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Speaker 4: It was a Sunday night game between the Chargers in

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Speaker 4: Miami late in the season. They had just lost at

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: San fran and they had to go at LA and

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Speaker 4: they lost that game too. The Dolphins, who were rolling

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Speaker 4: to like four straight wins, they run into two buzzsaws

1414
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Speaker 4: of defensive scheming Demico Ryans and Brandon Saley San Francisco

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: and LA respectively, And they had him patting the ball

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Speaker 4: all day. And you know, if it wasn't for Tyreek

1417
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 4: Hill scoop and score touchdown, they would have held the

1418
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Speaker 4: Dolphins to one offensive touchdown in that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was. Anytime you can see Tua

1420
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: look and then look back the other direction and pat

1421
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 1: the ball. That's not the way their offense was designed.

1422
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: They did that all night and we're seeing we're watching

1423
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: highlights here now and Tua stepping up, hitching, hitching again,

1424
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: changing his eyes and trying to find somebody, just thrown

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Speaker 1: into a sea of Charger you know, defenders. It just

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, they got them. It was a great scheme

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Speaker 1: and it worked to perfection, and the Dolphins, who had

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Speaker 1: been at one point last year the hottest offense in

1429
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Speaker 1: the NFL, bar none for a stretch of about a month.

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Speaker 1: It just went away.

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Speaker 4: Staley had an answer for everything McDaniel was drawing up

1432
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Speaker 4: in that game, and I think that the main key

1433
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Speaker 4: of that approach was they completely took away the middle

1434
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: of the field. The middle of the field is where

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 4: to a thrits and with the speed guys that He's

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: got in that art, in that arsenal of receivers, it

1437
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: puts pressure on a defense so much so that almost

1438
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 4: nobody pressed the Dolphins. The Chargers did, and then they

1439
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 4: bracketed the inside passing lanes so that there was there

1440
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: was no open grass for those guys to run to

1441
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: They were pressing those wide receivers on the wise side.

1443
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: And think about it. If you're if you're already lined

1444
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: up wide and you're a fast, fast guy, and the

1445
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: guy that's pressing you takes inside leverage, so you got

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01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: to go to his outside down the sidelines, and then

1447
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: he stays in there, doesn't care if you go outside,

1448
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: because he's got help out there. You're you're stuck and

1449
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: your speed becomes negated because there's nowhere to run. You

1450
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: can run down the field, but you've got too high safety.

1451
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: That's you're you're running into the third guy, right, So uh,

1452
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: you do that, and it really puts the wide the

1453
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: wide outs in a bind, and you play kind of

1454
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: man but not man the corners. I remember you pointing

1455
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: this out to me. The corners would press the guy,

1456
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: but making sure the guy went to the took an

1457
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: outside release, and then just stay inside and kind of

1458
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: mirror him in.

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Speaker 3: Depth, knowing the help was outside, knowing.

1460
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Speaker 1: The help was outside and not letting him inside, and

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: Tua was not gonna throw it where there was a

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: defender stander right there, and it really was. It worked brilliantly.

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Speaker 1: You've got to if you're with dolphins, that's where you're

1464
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: looking and you're saying, listen, you better come up with

1465
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: answers to that. And maybe the Dolphins did have answers

1466
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: for it, Tua was not seeing it.

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: If that's the case, break time for us here, But

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Speaker 4: we're right back to the phone calls and the obl

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 4: Friday fan mail bag. When we return, John and Hamburg

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Speaker 4: is going to lead us off open line for you

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Speaker 4: at eight oh three oh five point fifty. Got a

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Speaker 4: question on your mind, Steve and I are here to

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Speaker 4: answer it on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 4: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Time to

1476
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 4: dive into the Friday fan mail bag. And first up

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Speaker 4: is Capose, who's asking any chance Latavius Murray will be

1478
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 4: running back one.

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: I think at this stage of his career he's a

1481
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 4: committee back. I think he will have a defined role

1482
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 4: if he's on the fifty three man roster, which I

1483
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 4: don't necessarily believe is a lock. We saw the Bills

1484
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 4: carry a veteran running back on their practice squad the

1485
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: entire year last season in Duke Johnson. I wouldn't put

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 4: it past them to do that again. And Latavius Murray

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 4: could be that guy if roster spots are hard to

1488
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 4: come by because maybe they're carrying an extra tight end,

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 4: or maybe they'd rather have Reggie Gilliam because of his

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01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 4: versatility in terms of where you could line him up,

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 4: or maybe they want to carry an extra receiver an

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 4: extra alignment.

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Speaker 1: I think three guys who are going to take rips

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: at running back is the limit on game day. So

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: right now it would be James Cook, Latavius Murray, and

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: Damien Harris non heinz if Naheem Hines is on the

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: rosters to return kicks at this point, and there's your

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 1: fourth that gives you one less than you had a

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Speaker 1: year ago. At times, then Reggie Gilliam, you could you

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Speaker 1: could fold him in with the tight ends and go Knox, Kinkaid, Gilliam, whoever. Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: that's about as many roster spots as you're gonna get

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: for those guys, and then the rest of them are

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: going to be whiteouts.

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01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: The expanded practice squad, you know that's come in since

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Speaker 4: the COVID rules first started and then became permanent in

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01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 4: terms of a sixteen man practice squad last year have

1507
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 4: kind of changed the dynamics of these roster decisions, where

1508
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: now gms and coaching staffs are deciding who can we

1509
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 4: afford to put on the practice squad without risk of

1510
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 4: losing them to another their team, knowing we can only

1511
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 4: protect four of the sixteen on the practice squad. That's

1512
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 4: that's kind of some of the dilemma that they deal

1513
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 4: with and try to accurately assess, and sometimes they're right

1514
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 4: and sometimes they're not, and sometimes you lose a player

1515
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: that you'd prefer to hold on to as a result.

1516
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: It's a tricky, tricky business.

1517
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: But also I've had conversations with Brandon Bean where he

1518
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: will say, this player, he goes, I talked this player

1519
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: out of taking a job on another team. They were

1520
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna bring him in. I go, listen, you're gonna go there,

1521
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: The gems are gonna lose his job. The new guy's

1522
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: not gonna have any tie to you at all, and

1523
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, you're just trading a spot where

1524
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: we want you around for a team of a plan.

1525
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: We have a plan for you, and and you're going

1526
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: to trade it for a shot at a team that's

1527
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna make a switch, and you're gonna be out of

1528
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: a job next year this time next year, and he's

1529
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: talked him out of it. The guy's still here and

1530
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: he's not the only one. It is a It is

1531
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: a sales job, not just in free agency where you

1532
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 1: got these guys coming in and he's settle them on

1533
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and the culture and Josh Allen, the offense

1534
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: and the contender that the team is. You got to

1535
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: sell guys at the bottom of the roster throughout the

1536
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: season to turn down an opportunity to go to another team.

1537
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: It's an ongoing process that you know, you got to

1538
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: have something to sell these guys at the bottom of

1539
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: the roster on this practice squad because you will lose

1540
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: guys that later on the season. You may be so

1541
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,440
Speaker 1: happy you have Brian.

1542
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 4: In the mailbag asks which nine defensive linemen make the

1543
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 4: final roster. This makeup has changed since the addition of

1544
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: Leonard Floyd, because Leonard Floyd, barring a catastrophe, is making

1545
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 4: this roster, so he has changed the dynamics there. But

1546
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 4: I think what you're looking at essentially is a defensive

1547
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 4: tackle position that's gonna have Daykwon Jones at Oliver Jordan

1548
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 4: phillips POONA four. I think those are your four locks

1549
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 4: at defensive tackle. And then do they keep a fifth

1550
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: and Tim Settle or somebody else.

1551
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: You may have one or two others that certainly you'll

1552
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: have him on the roster or on the practice squad

1553
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,480
Speaker 1: as backups.

1554
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, then on the edge you've got von Miller, Greg Rousseau.

1555
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd. Are your locks?

1556
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,440
Speaker 4: And then are you keeping four ends and five defensive

1557
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: tackles or are you keeping five ends and four defensive tackles?

1558
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 4: Last year they kept five ends. It was Basham Epinessa,

1559
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 4: von Miller, Greg Rousseau and Shaq Lawson. Do they go

1560
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: that way again and keep five ends and only four

1561
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 4: DT's or do they flip it? It's gonna be interesting

1562
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 4: to see what they do there. But after those top

1563
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 4: three that I mentioned at the end, Rousseau, Miller, and Floyd,

1564
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 4: now you got to pick two from Basham Epinessa, Cameron Kleine, Kingsley,

1565
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 4: Jonathan and Shack Loss and good luck.

1566
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 3: Good problem, but a problem nonetheless.

1567
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: And and there could be some room in there for

1568
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: to acquire another player and package those guys if you

1569
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: got too many of them, youre thinking Listen, I don't.

1570
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: There's just too many. I mean, like guys like Yeah,

1571
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: Boogie Shaq Ray epinesa for one spot the way you

1572
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: just laid it out. If they're gonna go with four yeah,

1573
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: or even they go with five, you got three for

1574
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: one spot. You're thinking, well, you could trade those guys.

1575
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: Could could trade them for draft picks or whatever if

1576
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: we get into a pint or whatever. It's a glut

1577
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: of good players they got a that's a tough roster

1578
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: to make. And all those guys are gonna play. If

1579
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: they're on the team, they're gonna rotate in. They keep

1580
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: them fresh. So it's not like none of those guys

1581
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: have any experienced playing or don't have tape where teams

1582
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: can look and say, yeah, you know what, that guy's

1583
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: better than the guy we got. And there are some

1584
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: of that yep.

1585
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 4: Mark in the mailbag asks how confident are you that

1586
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,919
Speaker 4: the old line will be better? I like the moves inside,

1587
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 4: but nervous about the tackles. All right, So let's take

1588
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 4: a look at the tackles and just kind of lay

1589
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 4: it out for you. So he's nervous knowing that your

1590
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 4: offensive tackles right now as it currently stands are Tommy

1591
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 4: Doyle who's coming back from ACL, Dion Dawkins, Ryan Vandermark

1592
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: who was on the practice squad last year, David Questenberry,

1593
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 4: Spencer Brown, and Brandon Shell. Shell is a proven starter

1594
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 4: in this league that they just added over the past

1595
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 4: ten days. He's going to compete with Spencer Brown at

1596
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 4: right tackle, make no mistake about it, and he'll push.

1597
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: Him, and I think that's good.

1598
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 4: We've talked about it a lot too. A lot of

1599
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 4: players in the third year here out of college blossom.

1600
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 4: There are plenty of examples, and this year Greg Russo

1601
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 4: and Spencer Brown are third year players that I expect

1602
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 4: to blossom and play considerably better. That is undoubtedly the

1603
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 4: hope of the coaching staff in the front office. But

1604
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 4: Brandon shell I think is some insurance for the right

1605
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 4: tackle position. So there are people here that I think

1606
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: make that position deeper at least heading into training camp,

1607
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 4: and we'll have to see how it plays out in

1608
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: an ideal world. Spencer Brown lights the world on fire

1609
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 4: in training camp. You know, you have to remember this

1610
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 4: guy was his first training camp was at a time

1611
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: when there were still COVID rules in place, and then

1612
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 4: last year he missed most of training camp due to

1613
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: off season back surgery. This is going to be the

1614
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,799
Speaker 4: first year he's going to go into training camp healthy,

1615
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: God willing.

1616
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 3: It makes a difference.

1617
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you and I have both sat

1618
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: there and looked at these guys, and wash Theman thought about,

1619
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, we were there at the roster last year

1620
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: and these this team, this offensive line not only seems better,

1621
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: it also seems a hair younger than it did a

1622
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: year ago. With McGovern and Osiris Torrance being two of

1623
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: the key components in there, that makes them significantly younger

1624
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: right off the top. And I just you know, it

1625
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 1: just seems to me that, yes, how confident are we?

1626
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: I think Brown and I are both one hundred percent confident.

1627
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: This offensive line is going to be much better than

1628
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: it was a year ago at not only at the

1629
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: front five. No matter who ends up being the tackles,

1630
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: the front five are all going to be better because

1631
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: the tackles are at least the right tackle is going

1632
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: to be healthier and have a better preseason, a longer

1633
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: run up to the season to get ready to play.

1634
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: But also the guys behind those front five are going

1635
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: to be better. So I'm yes, I'm one hundred percent,

1636
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: but more confident the offensive line is going to better

1637
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: this year than it was a year ago. I'm one

1638
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: hundred percent confident.

1639
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 4: Tony asks who is a surprise starter in your mind

1640
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 4: when preseason ends? A surprise starter.

1641
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of a surprise it is,

1642
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:21,839
Speaker 3: but I think there's going to be a new starting

1643
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: right guard this year.

1644
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1645
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 3: I think I think you're looking at Osyrus Torrance or

1646
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: David Edwards, right, That's.

1647
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: What I was. I was going to say David Edwards.

1648
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say David Edwards. He's six six three

1649
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: and eighties, twenty six years old, he's five year, five

1650
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 1: year veteran, came out of Wisconsin. The guy's a monster,

1651
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: big six ' six. He's listed at three to zero eight.

1652
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: He looks thick to me. I always it's just numbers.

1653
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's my call.

1654
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1655
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 4: I think the other one, which could largely be based

1656
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 4: on personnel grouping in a given week, might be Dalton Kincaid.

1657
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how surprised people would be to see

1658
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 4: James Cook as a starting running back.

1659
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 3: Maybe not at all.

1660
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: Trent Sherfield could be a dark horse in the slot

1661
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: out of three wide, there's a lot in there.

1662
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

1663
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like I said, like, I was surprised

1664
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: when Brownie told me this a couple of weeks ago,

1665
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: that there's only three guys from the receiving corps on

1666
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: the roster right now, digs Davis from Khalil Shakir.

1667
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did our whole podcast on it this past year.

1668
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: And I was shocked by it. So I think you

1669
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: got a real chance for one of these guys to

1670
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: step in and maybe be a massive have a if

1671
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: not a starter, a massive role in the philosophy of

1672
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: the offense.

1673
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 4: Last one here before the break, Andy asks will Leonard

1674
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: Floyd where this Spider Man under arms for his first

1675
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 4: home game would be a great tribute to Darryl Tally.

1676
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1677
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 4: Leonard Floyd is wearing jersey number fifty six. But unfortunately,

1678
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 4: I think that is now illegal by league uniform rules.

1679
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: There are might be sent off the field now.

1680
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are uniform officials at every game in the

1681
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,520
Speaker 4: league every week, and they find guys if their uniform

1682
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 4: isn't to code and things like that, which, granted do

1683
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 4: express originality, are frowned upon by the league, so I

1684
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 4: don't even think that's an option for him. I suppose

1685
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 4: he could do it in player warm ups, but beyond that,

1686
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 4: probably not. We have to take a break here, but

1687
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: some final questions from the mail bag. When we return

1688
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 4: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

1689
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills Radio.

1690
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 3: All right, some final thoughts.

1691
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: There are questions I should say in the mail bag,

1692
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: and we go back to it here and see who

1693
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 4: we're up too.

1694
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: We up to here.

1695
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 4: Let's see Sq asks new fan here started following football

1696
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 4: more closely last season, What, in your opinion are the

1697
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 4: main storylines and or players to pay close attention as

1698
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 4: the season starts. I think obviously the middle linebacker, whoever

1699
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 4: that starter becomes, will be somebody to look at.

1700
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 3: That is a storyline as well as.

1701
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Que To answer your question, listen to this show every day.

1702
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: There you go, you will another making sure all those questions.

1703
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 4: The main storyline is Sean mcdermocall in the plays on

1704
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 4: defense now as defensive coordinator in addition to his head

1705
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 4: coaching duties.

1706
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: Tho, there are just a couple, but Steve's got a

1707
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: good idea there.

1708
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 4: Travis asks Am I crazy for thinking the Chiefs should

1709
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 4: be concerned about the Bills. The Bills should be concerned

1710
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 4: about the Bengals, and the Bengal should be concerned about

1711
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

1712
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 1: That's rational, is it.

1713
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 3: It's a little circus. It's a little circular, I think.

1714
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are concerned about the Bengals and

1715
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are concerned about the Bills,

1716
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: and the Bengals, and the Bengals are concerned about the

1717
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah, I think all three of those teams

1718
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: are really good. The answer is yes to all Yeah.

1719
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: And there's more to it than that. I think all

1720
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: of them are concerned about teams in their own division

1721
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: that they got to beat twice, particularly Cincinnati. Look at

1722
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: the you know, Lamar Jackson in his new contract, in

1723
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 1: the new era that they're entering into in that offense.

1724
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers never have a losing season under Mike Tomlin,

1725
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: even when they should have, they didn't. And then they've

1726
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: got the Cleveland Browns, who who will by all accounts,

1727
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: be better than they were a year ago when they

1728
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: finished the season, and Deshaun Watson with another year nder

1729
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: his belt. So all these and you know the Chiefs

1730
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: in the AFC West. Okay, they're getting a break with

1731
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders this year, but Denver's going to be better

1732
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton in the helm, and the Chargers are

1733
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: never going to go anywhere. So all those three of

1734
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: those teams have more to worry about than just each other.

1735
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 1: The AFC is a gauntlet from Connor.

1736
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 4: He asked, with mandatory mini camp approaching, what do you

1737
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: think will still be the biggest unanswered question that we'll

1738
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 4: acquire training camp to answer. There's a lot of questions

1739
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 4: that you need training camp to answer. Who's your middle linebacker?

1740
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 4: Who are you starting five on the O line?

1741
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 1: That's just what I was going to say, those two things.

1742
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 4: And might even be D line who's starting there at

1743
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 4: the defensive tackle because there's some training camp battles there.

1744
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 4: Garvy asked, which position group do you think the Bills

1745
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 4: may see someone traded from? Maybe defensive end. It's super

1746
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 4: deep there. Now that's it for us. Have a great weekend, everybody.

1747
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 3: We'll see on Monday.