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Speaker 2: You know, episode four forty eight co Wetzel. I took

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Speaker 2: I don't know, weeks ago, a few weeks ago. Ye,

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Speaker 2: first one, like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Why this can be posted too?

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Speaker 2: Hey you're gonna post that Co Wetzel to like, you

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Speaker 2: better post a co Wetzel, I want to come and

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Speaker 2: burn your house down.

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Speaker 3: Like we were refusing to post. We were holding it hostage.

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Speaker 2: No, no, in due time, friends, co Wetzel just released

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Speaker 3: He's releasing a lot of new music this spring.

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Speaker 1: He has.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at tickets l it was about three

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand tickets so far on this tour. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guys has blown up in a way of the

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Speaker 2: organic growth guys, if that makes sense, like on the

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Speaker 2: grows and it grows, and the guy is I won't

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Speaker 2: to say underground because now he's like blowing up. But

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Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that he has a passionate

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Speaker 3: Would that be a fair statement. Yeah, definitely. That's why

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Speaker 3: everybody was hitting this up so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like his people are hardcore, but now as people

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I like co I mean listen in one

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Speaker 2: of those guys where I thought, really, if this turns

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Speaker 2: into a bar fight in my house, I don't have

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Speaker 2: a bar, but it's not gonna look good for me.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we're ready for if somebody had

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Speaker 2: Coo Wetzel's coming over.

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Speaker 3: Be careful. He got here early. Everything about him was

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Speaker 3: super nice, nicest guy.

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Speaker 2: I was expecting to like spit on me halfway through

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Speaker 3: But then he was like nice and plied and super thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: But here he is, and I hope that doesn't kill

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Speaker 3: You can follow my on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: think about that, only thought about that right now. Dang

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Speaker 2: missed that question. Cowetzel music dot com and here we go.

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Speaker 2: Here is Co Wetzel Co.

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Speaker 3: Good to meet you.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's the first first time we met, right, I

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Speaker 1: People don't expect to hear my voice kind of like

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Speaker 3: That's probably getting older. I'm not how old you are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're old enough now for it to last.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me and my buddies, we get drunk, just fight

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, Like I would think just physically

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Speaker 3: But I've never been punched. And I'm it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you wake up the next morning and go,

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Speaker 3: That that life for me. It's gonna be not be

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Speaker 3: I don't have two in me for life that.

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Speaker 1: I'm saving up. Like I can do a little, you know,

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Speaker 2: So are you usually on the bus on the road

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Speaker 1: Whenever I'm at home, I'm usually resting or you know,

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Speaker 2: I come from a family of crazy drug addiction. I

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Speaker 3: Just to watch your growth, your organic growth.

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Speaker 2: It's really one of those stories that you would like

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the trouble. That's just when people, I think, first.

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Speaker 2: Learn about you like that ude is crazy, right, and

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's fun to say now because you hear

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Speaker 1: It was all us. Yeah, And that was just us

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Speaker 2: You get lost at times and where you were? No,

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Speaker 1: Just show up at a show? Like you come out

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00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,760
Speaker 1: of the bush, like where the hell are type ship?

442
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Speaker 2: Did you do the or do you have the thing

443
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,639
Speaker 2: happened to you? Where your friends go? Because this is

444
00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,720
Speaker 2: what happened to me some man. You go everywhere. It's

445
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,080
Speaker 2: so cool to see all these places. And I'm like,

446
00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,520
Speaker 2: I see the back doors of theaters like I sleep

447
00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,440
Speaker 2: and then I get up, I see the back door

448
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,600
Speaker 2: of the theater. I might go back to sleep in

449
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 2: the hotel room. And that's it. It's not like I'm

450
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,000
Speaker 2: in Boston checking out the Sam Adams factory. It's hard

451
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 2: to be a tourist when you're working.

452
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,720
Speaker 1: And and as as the tour goes on, you get

453
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,120
Speaker 1: more war out, you get more tired, so the days

454
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 1: would come shorter. You know, you're you're up till you

455
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 1: know you don't get off stage till.

456
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,560
Speaker 3: Fighting all night.

457
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah up, I mean, well, hell, you played till you

458
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 1: played till midnight. You know, you get done on midnight.

459
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,920
Speaker 1: Now you cool down for another hour, so it's one o'clock,

460
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,080
Speaker 1: you go out, you drink till two with barclos, and

461
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,199
Speaker 1: then you know, like you said, you fighting and doing

462
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 1: whatever till three or four in the morning, not going

463
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,760
Speaker 1: to sleep till five, and then you're waking up around lunch,

464
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 1: sound check, probably going back, taking another nap, waking up,

465
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,960
Speaker 1: going to dinner and meet and greet show, and then

466
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Speaker 1: all over again.

467
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,199
Speaker 2: The pre show is actually hours long because again you

468
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,199
Speaker 2: have a sound check, probably a meet and greet you

469
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 2: got and then.

470
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Speaker 3: It's not like there's a gap big enough to do anything.

471
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 2: If there is a gap, it's like forty minutes and

472
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,479
Speaker 2: you can't really go and do anything in forty minutes

473
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 2: and come back. So yeah, it's a grind, especially looking

474
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 2: at how you travel and tour and people could look

475
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,120
Speaker 2: at you now be like man Co's got it made

476
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 2: like he's killing.

477
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Speaker 1: It, but they don't see the backside of it.

478
00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 3: They didn't see on the early part of it. It

479
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 3: was just a constant, constant grind.

480
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 1: But we were talking the other day, and everybody was like,

481
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of crazy that somebody'd say that

482
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 1: we were overnight success because they didn't see the first

483
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: ten years of it, you know. And you know, we

484
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,880
Speaker 1: started in twenty eleven, twenty twelve playing college parties and

485
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, whatever we could for free beer, you know,

486
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 1: and so you know nobody saw that.

487
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 4: Come up, Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

488
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

489
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Speaker 3: What's Pittsburgh, Texas?

490
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: Like? Very small, very small town. Vibe East Texas, Vibe

491
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Speaker 1: Country Hill.

492
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: What's well, we would go to town, which meant we

493
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 2: went to Hot Springs with city. I think Pittsburgh has

494
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: like Walmarts and stuffough, right doesn't it?

495
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't have Walmart. Now what's town then?

496
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: For you?

497
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 3: If you guys were gonna go to town, I.

498
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Speaker 1: Mean Pittsburgh had I mean it has like a Brookshire Brothers.

499
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: It has like a grocer store and stuff. But if

500
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: we were to go to like a city that would

501
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: be Texta Kana or long viewer Toller.

502
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 2: So where would concerts come that that were ones that

503
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 2: would be national acts?

504
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Probably like Longview Tyler, Texta Kana.

505
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: How was textakana from.

506
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: You ply forty five minutes an? How?

507
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh that's not bad. I always hated the arc Latex.

508
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like, yeah, it's all right, so compact and

509
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: you're crossing state lines like crazy on in that area. Yeah,

510
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: we're like you're an arch. Me tell you, I studied

511
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: the fifty States arc le Texas.

512
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Speaker 1: But people around there don't say that.

513
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: So I will though, because I'm from Arkansas. If I

514
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 2: can't from a different place over, why not?

515
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

516
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: So growing up? What was Are your parents still alive

517
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 3: right now?

518
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: They are?

519
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 3: Okay? Are they still together? Are you close to them? Okay?

520
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: But what was home like with your parents? And were

521
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: they musical? I know you have a bit of a bull.

522
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: Tell everybody that doesn't know you what that's about.

523
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so growing up, I mean they were they

524
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: were young, young parents. They had me. I think they

525
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: got married in nineteen and had me at twenty, So

526
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean they were young parents, and you know, I

527
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: mean there was always a fight going on whatever.

528
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: You know.

529
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine raising the kid that young. But I

530
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: had a great, great childhood coming up. My mom she

531
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 1: was a bank teller and uh an account for the school,

532
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: and she would go around to uh old opry houses

533
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: and play music. So I was always around music on.

534
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: That side saying she.

535
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: Was just saying. And then on my dad's side, you know,

536
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: they were all Southern Baptists and stuff, so study church,

537
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, go sing in the choir and all stuff

538
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, I just grew up, Like I said,

539
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: going back to my mom's side, I grew up in

540
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: old opry houses. And I don't even know if they

541
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: have opery houses anymore, like.

542
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: I haven't seen them.

543
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: But even back in the nineties, it was like old

544
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: pet like old folks that came to and I was

545
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: that little shithead kid that was just like running up

546
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: and down the house because I go with my mom

547
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: and like nobody would look after me. So I was

548
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: still in popcorn from old people and shit. And my

549
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: mom be up there saying tame, why that you know

550
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

551
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: So did you think it was cool that your mama singing.

552
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I love the sound of a live band because I

553
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: always practice like tapes and stuff and always listen to her,

554
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: So whenever I got to hear her with a live band,

555
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: I love the sound of the drums and uh and

556
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: the old telecaster. Dude, it was blew my mind.

557
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Do you think that your interest in music a bit

558
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: was to pursue a connection with your mom? She did

559
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: it and even if you even if you can't go,

560
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: yeah for sure. But when you think about it, do

561
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: you think.

562
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: A little bit, Yeah, because I think she kind of

563
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: lives vocation through me now, you know, a little bit,

564
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: because she loves she loves coming to the shows. She

565
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: loves everything about it. You know, she's fully invested. So

566
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: whenever she gets to come, it's always great. She's she's

567
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: more of the star of the show than I give

568
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: he a.

569
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: Let her up on stage.

570
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: She ever sing with you, so we haven't yet. She

571
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: wants to cut a song with me, and I need

572
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: to do it.

573
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

574
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we should do that, But dude, that would be

575
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: that would be awesome.

576
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: That's the cool because you are so you just do

577
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: not care. It's an awesome thing about you. You just

578
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: do not care. And then doing something with me mom

579
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: is like so the opposite of what you are. That

580
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: also shows you just don't care what any it thinks

581
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: and like you just love what you love. Made the

582
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 2: right song man, You let me know when you do that,

583
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't even care what it is, as long as

584
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: it's not like here we are mom and son banging.

585
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything like that. Yeah, let me know.

586
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 2: I'll play it like, because I can't imagine your mom

587
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: is gonna be on something that's like crazy hard.

588
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah no it's yeah, it'll be. I don't know what

589
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: it'll be. She wants to, so maybe we'll make it happen.

590
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: I am I vote yet one hundred times, because who

591
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: else who has done that?

592
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: Mike? Can you think of anybody that sang a song

593
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: with their mom. Nothing comes to mind that they.

594
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: Weren't putting their mom on a record because their mom

595
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: is Fanny.

596
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: Don't even think. I mean we've been on stage together,

597
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think we've actually I don't think.

598
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: Mom angle works so good with you, because again, you're

599
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: not the guy that people associate being a mom, and

600
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: so it's almost even more of what you stand for,

601
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: like you do not care, You're just gonna do you period.

602
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't even know what song is, but it's a hit.

603
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: It's number one song. I'm declaring it.

604
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah, tell you tell your mom?

605
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: I said what I call her after this?

606
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she still lives the same.

607
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, she lives in Pittsburgh, same house, same house.

608
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: Uh that same house. We moved. They built a house.

609
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: Whenever I was like.

610
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 2: Twelve, whenever you really sell out, I felt like it

611
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: was obviously the name of record, but it's also kind

612
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 2: of a message to folks for Metallica. And I don't know,

613
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: I was not really a Metallica fan. It was a

614
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: little before me, but I remember people said Metallica, you're

615
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: sellout and they're like, yeah, we sell out every freaking show.

616
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And so I got a bit of that

617
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 3: vibe whenever.

618
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: I saw that's what it was, because you're still doing

619
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: things exactly like you were doing them. It's just now, hey,

620
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: let's use the people's money a little bit because they

621
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: believe that the you know, like, I got it, But

622
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: do you feel like some of your people didn't?

623
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a lot of them actually, But for the

624
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: people who didn't get it, we gained a lot more

625
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: people who did get it. Yeah, So I mean it

626
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of even everything out, and uh, it just it

627
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: took from it took us from us being kind of

628
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: those those road bandits that didn't give a shit to

629
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: actually caring a lot more and realizing that, man, this

630
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: is on a bigger skill than just Texas bars and

631
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: places that we've been playing.

632
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like it was affecting your art anything.

633
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: It was helping your heart.

634
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: Because you weren't You didn't have to spend as much

635
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 2: time just straight struggle, and you had good advice to

636
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: do because if they hadn't believed it, they didn't believe

637
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: in what you were doing to begin with, they wouldn't

638
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: have put any money into Yeah, it wasn't like they're

639
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: putting a boy band together.

640
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and I think whenever we you know, with

641
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: the skits and everything, it was kind of a it

642
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: was a very ballsy move on my end, and I

643
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't really know how to go about it.

644
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: So I just thought it was like, hey, uh, y'all,

645
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: don't take this wrong way, but here's the skits and stuff, like, oh.

646
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: We love it.

647
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: You know they know who they signed, yeah, exactly. And

648
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: and and that's the reason I signed with Columbia is because,

649
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to a lot of other labels

650
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, and Columbia were like, hey, we know what

651
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: you're doing. We don't want to change anything. We want

652
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: you to be you was like awesome, so and they

653
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: and they did. They let us do whatever we wanted

654
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: to do this day.

655
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: How often are you here in town Nashville.

656
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Uh, we're probably ten times a year, maybe just in

657
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: and out.

658
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: And so when you do come, it's actually for a reason,

659
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: like you're coming to meet yeah, or age or just

660
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: something that the business related a part of it.

661
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: How do you? How do you like this town?

662
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: I love Nashville.

663
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: Good for to do it for you. I think if

664
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: you lived here, you wouldn't And.

665
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: That's like, but but Nashville's becoming like a Vegueas for me,

666
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: it's like a three nights more than three nights. I

667
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: don't think I can do it.

668
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: Same for me and I live here three nights, I'm like,

669
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm over hate it. They're great, they're great humans here.

670
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: It's the I was talking to h uh, don't hold

671
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: on Cole Cody, Cody. Cody and I just met a

672
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: minute ago. That's working to Cody because Cody's like Florida

673
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: moving around and we were talking about Nashville and I

674
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: was like, man, I can see why people that make

675
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: it leave because they have the resources to go and

676
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: say like I'm not going to stay here, but it's amazing.

677
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: The people are amazing. But sometimes the industry, if you

678
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: live in it gets to be a bit toxic and

679
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: like un unhealthily competitive. But you're not competitive with anybody else,

680
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: just yourself. Yeah, and it starts to like eat at

681
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: you and it's stupid and I hate it ninety.

682
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: Of the time, except for like the people I know.

683
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good to like, like, you know, I

684
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: live in Texas still and you know, I'm always going

685
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: to be that Texas country kid, you know, and uh,

686
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: but it's always good to come back to Nashville and

687
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: see people that you haven't seen in you know, three

688
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: or four months, you know.

689
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's probably like an in law, like good

690
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: to see you again. Bye, Yeah, we go.

691
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: That's pretty much how it is here. It's like, hey, man,

692
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: how you've been. You know? All the type of drinks

693
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: all right, man, we'll see it.

694
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: You don't got to fight them, just a couple of drinks.

695
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

696
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: When I find where are you living, like upset the

697
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: small town if it's a small town, but I'm assuming it's.

698
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Not so a group of Pittsburgh. I live in Weatherford.

699
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: It's just like forty five minutes west of for Worth.

700
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: They proud of you in Weatherford, they know you live there.

701
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: They kind of yeah, Walmart after five can get a

702
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: little crazy, but uh, that's that's why I like door

703
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Dash or whatever. That's good little grocery shop.

704
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good because but you look like you. Yeah,

705
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to hide.

706
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: I know who you are. If they know who you.

707
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: Are, it's crazy. Just ran on mask. Dudes will come

708
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: up be like, man, I get totally look like you

709
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm like, god, damn, I hope not.

710
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: You know, I'm telling you.

711
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: People will say, hey, do you know you look like

712
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: my cousin and they'll show me a picture of their cousin.

713
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Nothing.

714
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: I like, well, if I do look like them, I'm

715
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: judging myself completely wrong. Like I don't think I'm a

716
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: beauty queen. And I'm like, if you think I look

717
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: or they'll type it on Instagram, Hey look I'm here

718
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: with this guy looks just like Bobby.

719
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's seventy man. He said, yeah, so like

720
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I felt.

721
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: But you couldn't even hide in a mask really, you know,

722
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: were a lot of artists here could put on a

723
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: mask d on COVID if they did, like you couldn't

724
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: get into place on a mask with your hair and like,

725
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: yeah tattoos.

726
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah in text is a yeah, it's fun. I love

727
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: it though, you know, like I don't mind taking pictures

728
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, so that's cool. No, yeah, that's joy.

729
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: I agree, it's part of it.

730
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: It's absolutely part of it, and it's awesome. The only

731
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: role that I would have that I tell people and

732
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: not for me, because I'm grateful. I'm not that talented,

733
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: so I feel like I've used a lot of Tanazi

734
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: to get this point, and so I'm I'm never gonna

735
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: be the person to say nah. But if people are

736
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: with their kids or if people are with food in

737
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: front of them eating, those are the two places. Like

738
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 2: if somebody's eating you want a picture, just wait till

739
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: they finish eating. But don't go up when someone's at dinner.

740
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: And I tell people all the time, if you see

741
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: your favorite celebrity, they know they're a celebrity, they know

742
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: they're in public. But if they're eating, wait till it's over,

743
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: then you can do. So beating's tough.

744
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was we were in Corpus Christy not too

745
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: long ago. I guess towards the end of the tour

746
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: and a bunch of these high high school kids came

747
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: up and a couple of me know, I didn't mine,

748
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: and then they kept coming and kept coming, and then

749
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: tours that I was like, hey, listen, guys, let me

750
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: just finish dinner and then I'll meet you out outside.

751
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: We walked outside and there's probably one hundred of them

752
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: out there. I was like, all right, just one big group,

753
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: pick and we get it. I got to meet. But

754
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: it all works out.

755
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: We were talking about it went sell out, comes out,

756
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: and Columbia knew what they were signing. That's why they

757
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: wanted you. It wasn't like they were going to sign

758
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: you then change you. And so you had mentioned how

759
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: they just let you be you. What about your peers

760
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: and music that are still either Texas Oklahoma in that

761
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: scene when not your fans, but your peers, maybe not

762
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: even your friends, did any of them voice to you

763
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 2: that they were Manko, that sucks that you really let

764
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: us down.

765
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: No, not really, man, everybody's always been super supportive, especially

766
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: in the music saying Man that music saying Texas music

767
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: saying is so it's such a tight knit family pretty much.

768
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: So if anybody makes it out, it's more or less

769
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: they're they're you know, cheering, sharing you on to go

770
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: because the more that we get out and you know,

771
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: it's just helping the Texas Texas music community out more,

772
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, sharing, you know what we're putting out from Texas.

773
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: So who are your Texas ogs that you would see

774
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: as a kid and us living in Texas forever too?

775
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: For us, it's like Rogers, Pat Green og Og.

776
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Randy Rodgers, Wade Bowen, Whiskey Myrs. They're they're East Texas boys.

777
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: So I grew up watching them in high school. You know,

778
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Stony LaRue guys like that, A bunch of the red

779
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: dirt guys in Oklahoma. So it's kind of I mean,

780
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: honestly it was. It was red dirt and Texas music

781
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: all the way through.

782
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: Man, So you listen to Turnpike at all growing up?

783
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I did? I love Turnpike. Yeah, A lot of a

784
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: lot of those bands like the Damn Quills, Steven Birds,

785
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: probably bands that you that you're not more familiar with.

786
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: But the smaller bands didn't really hit it as big,

787
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: but have just phenomenal music.

788
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, what's the difference then in them and you

789
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: and nobody specifically, but like, what's the difference in these?

790
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: I just think there was I think there was a wave.

791
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: There was certain waves that came through Tim. Yeah, just

792
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: like whenever you had Randy and Wade and you had

793
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, Pat Green and Jack Ingram. You know, those

794
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: are those two different waves, you know, me and Parker

795
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and that wave that came through, and then after that

796
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Giovanni and all those guys. So I think it was

797
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: just they got caught in the middle of that way maybe,

798
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: and it just didn't get as much love as you

799
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: should have. You and Parker cool, Yeah, for sure. Man.

800
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: I did not want to like that dude. Really.

801
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to not like I wanted it like because

802
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: I and obviously knew his music. He was like, he's

803
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: good looking, he's tall, abs got a gold chain, Like

804
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: it's the flat brick.

805
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to not like the dude sweetish, shoot gat awesome.

806
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: And the first time I met him and I told him,

807
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: and he was also like so kind and polite, and

808
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: he was like, I used to listen to your show.

809
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm nervous as an honor and I'm

810
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: like dude, you just run everything. I wanted to have

811
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: it hold against you, and so I didn't know if

812
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: you guys, if you got the FO because it's we talk.

813
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: We talk pretty much every day. Man, He's uh, it's

814
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: really cool because it was it was fun to have

815
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: somebody on the come up that was doing the same thing,

816
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, like because it's I mean, being on the

817
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: road and do what we do is really hard to

818
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: have somebody to talk to and be able to share

819
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: that with.

820
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: So it's good to have somebody like that and that

821
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: experience that you guys have being Texas artists that have

822
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: now achieved a level of success that have boosted you

823
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: from just that title because now, I mean, but even

824
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Texas artists are known outside of Texas. But just for

825
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: the sake of that title, there's not a lot of

826
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: people that you could talk with about mainstream accepting you

827
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: because you weren't begging for mainstream to accept you, but

828
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: mainstream going, hey, we like you enough, come on over

829
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: here a little bit like Parker's like the guy now

830
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: in this generation you could tell Eli, Yeah, you know,

831
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: those guys could do it, but they're ten years ago.

832
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Pat Green, that's twenty but it's cool to have somebody

833
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: like Parker. I would imagine you're kind of going through

834
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: it at the same time.

835
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: And I mean the times are different too, Like it's

836
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: not like it used to be when you talk about

837
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Pat Green, Like I feel like back then it was

838
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: more or less you had to come to Nashville to

839
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: get to get a label and all that stuff, you know.

840
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: And nowadays the way music is was streaming, streaming and everything,

841
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot more you know, accepted, and I mean

842
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's easier to find music and people like

843
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: these days.

844
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: We were still living in Austin and I remember Wave

845
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: on Wave was a big hit and it turned it

846
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: was the mainstream hit and you could feel the centiment

847
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: like that's gonna meant yeah, but then it kind of

848
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: went away after it was just successful for a while.

849
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: People don't they're too lazy to be hateful for a

850
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: long time.

851
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, People, they can't help grudges that that down all,

852
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: especially with past music. Man, Like it's just timeless for

853
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: especially people from Texas, you know. I mean, people are

854
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: never going to forget about.

855
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: He's one of the Texas great Yeah, he's like the

856
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: governor of Texas music. You spent time with him.

857
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: I do. We we got to do a couple of

858
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: hunts this year together, and uh, I mean the we

859
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: got we got pretty pretty deep into music and he's

860
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: got some new stuff coming out and I got some

861
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: new new music coming out. So uh, we got to

862
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, share share some music and thoughts and laughed

863
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: and cried and everything else. It was cool because you know,

864
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, he's one of my heroes

865
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: in the in the Texas Saint.

866
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm about to ask you who your heroes were.

867
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: It's it was, and you know it, and him being like,

868
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's It's really cool because I see a

869
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: lot of myself and you and and I was at

870
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: where you were at at one point, and it's just

871
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: really cool to see you know where you're at, what

872
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: you're doing with the music.

873
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: So are you having fun or are you more anxious,

874
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: like wondering how it's gonna turn out? I don't know

875
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: what you are, because it seems like that, but that

876
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: can be hidden pretty well.

877
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm having a great song man. I'm I have more

878
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: fun whenever whenever the tour starts, whenever I get back

879
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: on the road. I've been off the road for like

880
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: three or four months now, and I'm trying to buy

881
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: my hair off. Dude, I don't know what's going on.

882
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm head coach almost like like cabin fever almost.

883
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: Head football coaches will have whole back guys, you know

884
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: the So let's say you're on the road and you're

885
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: going to look, who's your whole back guy that you

886
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: would you would actually listen to if they're like you are.

887
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: You're always out of control, but you're a little too

888
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: out of control right now.

889
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Man, My boy Dre is always that guy. But it's

890
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of bad because most of the time he's almost

891
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: on my level, so he's he's like holding me back,

892
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: but he's also kind of like I want to see

893
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: how this turns out type.

894
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: But if he steps in and goes you got to chill.

895
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: Do you listen?

896
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: No?

897
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: Not really, I don't. I don't. I don't at all.

898
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: Actually, you don't have an appointed hold back guy by

899
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: somebody else?

900
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I do. I actually have a couple of them,

901
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: But like he said, I just don't. I don't listen.

902
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: If you don't want to listen, you're not gonna listen.

903
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: That's the deal. Once I get to that level. It's

904
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, I got that look in my

905
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: eye and everybody kind of knows not to. Yeah.

906
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: I mean you're also like, I wouldn't fight. I wouldn't

907
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: want to fight here, man, because you talk about fighting

908
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: because she's a bit. He's a big, strong guy that sucks.

909
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

910
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: Well, you get people challenging you just because.

911
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: No. Usually, I mean, I don't know, it's not I mean,

912
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: we don't go out looking for fights.

913
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 2: But guys, I know that would be like MMA fighters.

914
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: I won't even say people like challenge them because they'd.

915
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: Be like, oh that's hell. That's so.

916
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: I feel like people be like, oh, co what so

917
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: playing football, big star. It doesn't happen at all.

918
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: No, not really. It's it's always pretty much love man.

919
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: And And like I said, man, we don't. I haven't.

920
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I got to an

921
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: actual fight with uh, with somebody that wasn't yeah, somebody

922
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: that I just was, some random person. I mean, it's

923
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: usually I can't remember. It was a while back. We'll

924
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: say that it was.

925
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna mention any names, but I have

926
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: a friend, a very big country music star got in

927
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: a fight bar with somebody didn't know, beat the crap

928
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: out of the dude, and it was do everything possible

929
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: to make sure it doesn't get out.

930
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was all layers.

931
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: We we have those two because what he beat the

932
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: crap out of the dude, and you got to shut

933
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: that crap down quick because all of a sudden, there

934
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: we get a little money.

935
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, well it'll go back to that with us as well, though,

936
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: like people kind of expect that out of us, and

937
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: so it's kind of, oh, well, co got who gives

938
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: a ship?

939
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: That's true until someone, Yeah, until something, someone wants some

940
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: money or the Like my insurance, my car insurance is

941
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: higher because I'm.

942
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: A public profile because people will be like, oh that's

943
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: that dude.

944
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Oh my net Curt's a little more because they know

945
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: they could probably get a little more money out of somebody.

946
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: It's a weird reason to have high insurance. Uh, it's

947
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: a good reason. I'm happy. Yeah, for sure, I wouldn't

948
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: trade it.

949
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: But you know, being a it's like I've watched kind

950
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: of have I don't even know what fame is anymore

951
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: because it's so fractured, it's so splintered.

952
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: But I've watched to kind of get famous.

953
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Has your life changed at all because of the success

954
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: that you've had.

955
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 3: Have you had to alter, like you say, Walmart after dark?

956
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Do you make any decisions based on that?

957
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I'll do. And we kind of all do

958
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: as far as you know, going out to eat before

959
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: shows and things like that, you know.

960
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: Especially most of the venue. Yeah, that's it.

961
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: That's the word.

962
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: That's the word.

963
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: And well you know it will be in a sprinter

964
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: van that be beating on the windows, but uh, yeah,

965
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I have. And it's just a little minor ways though.

966
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: And my mom gets upset every time I come back home.

967
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: She always wants me to take her out to dinner.

968
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because she wants me to

969
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: wants to show me off or whatever, but it's usually

970
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm so tired and I just kind of want to

971
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: be with the family and hang out, watch movies and stuff,

972
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're not gonna take me out to dinner.

973
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if we go out, it's gonna be

974
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: an ordeal. And but she gets you know, so it's

975
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: it's cool. Why do you think people relate to the

976
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: lyrics so much because they're real and they're roll. It's

977
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: something that I think it's it's stuff that other people

978
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: are not afraid to say. It was just kind of

979
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I would rather not say for

980
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: fear of what it would do to their career.

981
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: Maybe the Bobby Cast will be right back.

982
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

983
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: This is the Bobby Cast.

984
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: Do you feel that your lyrics are so raw and real?

985
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna talk out this question after I say

986
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: it to you that sometimes you don't even relate to

987
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: it anymore because in a different part of your life,

988
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: your raw and real lyrics were true to you then.

989
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: But you've gotten older a bit, You've learned things where

990
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: you can listen back to be like, man, that's so

991
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 2: raw and real, but I don't even relate to that anymore.

992
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's kind of like the February twenty eighth

993
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: of stuff, and that's became just blown out of proportion,

994
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. But I mean, I wrote

995
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: that song whenever I was twenty two to twenty three

996
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: years old, and now that I'm thirty one, looking back

997
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: at it, it's like every night it's like, damn, we gonna.

998
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: Sing the song.

999
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: But people come to the show for that song. You know,

1000
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people come just to hear that song. So,

1001
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: but songs like that, you know, it's Yeah, I've grown

1002
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: up a little bit and I've gotten a little bit wiser,

1003
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: i'd say, And the songs that uh I wrote in

1004
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: college and how I was living my life back then

1005
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: are completely different than how I'm living my life now.

1006
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, like it's i know.

1007
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: Still raw and real and true to who that was.

1008
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely be a little weird to sing stuff that you

1009
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: don't feel anymore. It is your new record, though what

1010
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: is it? When? Tell me about that?

1011
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: So?

1012
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 3: What's what's that? And how has that changed?

1013
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: It's getting into more relationship like more raw and real

1014
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: about relationships and and uh, just life as you know,

1015
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: pretty much from what I just said, from growing up

1016
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: and in the scene and doing that kind of stuff

1017
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: and and uh making that type of music to now

1018
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: what I'm making, you know, and how my life has

1019
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: changed from that.

1020
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Any of these songs where they borderline, I don't know

1021
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: if I want to share that much. I don't know

1022
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: if I want to. I don't know if I feel

1023
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: like saying it right now. Is there any of that

1024
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: where it's not? You listen you're gonna say it if

1025
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: you feel it, but maybe you're like, maybe the time

1026
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: isn't right now to.

1027
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Go back on all a little bit of it. There

1028
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: was a couple of lines and songs that we had

1029
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: wrote and it was like, we really want to go there,

1030
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: and then we would record them, and then we would

1031
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: come back to them and be like, let's do them

1032
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, like maybe not, Let's let's

1033
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: hold off on it and just see how everybody takes

1034
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: his kind of newer sound that And.

1035
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: I think that makes you know less raw and real.

1036
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: But if there are other things that are so important

1037
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: to the record and that could distract from the things

1038
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: that you feel are the most important, absolutely understand going,

1039
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: maybe it's the time to, you know, admit I love

1040
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: the pound puppies and have a fetish, you know, because

1041
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: that would be what people would attach to and not

1042
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: the message of the real message of a lot of

1043
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: the body of work. And that's even pretty mature to

1044
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: say that as an answer a question, because a lot

1045
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: of people go like, oh, man, we give it to

1046
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: you straight, but you did give it straight. But there's

1047
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: sometimes that you want the to me straight.

1048
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: But now you're Jesus.

1049
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Wow, what's the what's the weirdest thing about

1050
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: having money?

1051
00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know. Amazon probably just get whatever

1052
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, pretty much. I don't know. I don't

1053
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: know people will. I think people were, I don't know.

1054
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: It's weird. That's a that's a good question as that before.

1055
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: I paid my phone bill last last week, so I

1056
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: mean I don't have a ship ton of money, so

1057
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I still got enough to live on.

1058
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna play that game because I'm not

1059
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: saying you're Bill Gates.

1060
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, success now feels to me.

1061
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: It's at a level that you haven't had yet, your

1062
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: your experience, and I went, I was a trailer park kid, right,

1063
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: So when I started to make money is what I

1064
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: didn't have anybody I could talk to about money. And

1065
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: then once I started making a lot of money, I

1066
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: didn't have any talked to about money on this level.

1067
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: And then I didn't know what I was supposed to

1068
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: be doing with it. So there were times where I

1069
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what to do, and it's

1070
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: a weird. Nobody feel sorry for you.

1071
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: Oh you got money now, it's could to be able

1072
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: to take care of like you no family members and

1073
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know. Like I was talking last

1074
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: night with a public system. We were kind of just

1075
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: going over just older things and getting ready for the

1076
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: new record and release and stuff, and we got talking

1077
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: about the house that I grew up in and there's

1078
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: a picture for it, and she was like, is that

1079
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: really is? Like yeah, and I grew up that there

1080
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: was one hundred and ten acres. My grandparents were about

1081
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: to had a lot of back taxes on the bank

1082
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: was about to take it. So I'm being able to

1083
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: come in and buy the family of land that's been

1084
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: in our name for over one hundred years. That really cool,

1085
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I mean being able to do

1086
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that is really awesome.

1087
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: You know.

1088
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: If if anybody needs something, it's good to be able to,

1089
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, holler at the account and be like yo, yeah.

1090
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: When people will ask me a similar question, we're like,

1091
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: what's the first thing you did? I bought my mama

1092
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: trailer and a few acres of land. We didn't have that,

1093
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: and I wanted to like remove that that fear of

1094
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: her losing it constantly. And for you to be able

1095
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: to do that at home, like that's like thing it

1096
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: was like it almost doesn't matter what else happens that

1097
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: and things could be having you get ten planes, but

1098
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: still like that that moment.

1099
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, relatively every.

1100
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Day it makes you feel better than damn the or

1101
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: anything else. You know that that you're able to do

1102
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: that you're financially able to do that, and that people

1103
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: actually give a shit and and enough in your music

1104
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: and stuff for you know, that's how you got that money.

1105
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1106
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel a bit of imposter syndrome where

1107
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm really not as good sometimes as people are,

1108
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: like like you're selling out rudes, I.

1109
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Think all the time, Like yeah, I'm a I'm like

1110
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm so hard on myself about everything.

1111
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: Like like what specifically are you hard on yourself about?

1112
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: The people wouldn't even.

1113
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: Well just a songwrite like songwriting vocally everything, Like I'm

1114
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: a I'm a hard ass on myself. Like, but I

1115
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: grew up like that. My dad was the same way.

1116
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: He was usually hard on me, and nowadays, whenever you know,

1117
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: we talk, he's like I was the way I was,

1118
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't you know have the life that I have?

1119
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: You know, I mean boy names suit type almost.

1120
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, legit and uh and you know, I thank him

1121
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: for that. I'm proud that he did that. That's how already.

1122
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: If I have a son or daughter, I'm gonna raise them,

1123
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna love them, and you know, and

1124
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: and do everything i can for him. But at the

1125
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: same time saw him that. You know, you know, you

1126
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: gotta keep gotta keep going. It's not all roses.

1127
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm surprised.

1128
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: I like you really, Yeah, damn you don't like nobody.

1129
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: I mostly am indifferent. Yeah, there are people I just

1130
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: don't lend their people out. And I thought, I don't know,

1131
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: if I like Coe, like he'll probably be a dude.

1132
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: I would probably like him.

1133
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: He's fine. And I didn't think I would dislike you.

1134
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: But I didn't expect to like you because people would have.

1135
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: They would be like, oh, hey, coch it's some people

1136
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: on my calendar. Be like, oh, coach, come over to

1137
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: the house, be like, yeah, do you know them?

1138
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: No?

1139
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: But that's the bad part, Like nobody really knows knows

1140
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot about me. Everything that they know is through

1141
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: social media or the Internet or stories that they've heard,

1142
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know.

1143
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: No, I like, like, I can just like look at you.

1144
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: Aside from all the performance stuff and even when you're

1145
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: talking about buying that land, like you can actually like

1146
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: feel like what matters, like at the core, what matters?

1147
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: You ever write a song and cry because of what

1148
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: you what you wrote?

1149
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: No. I got a music video back the other day though,

1150
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: for a new song, and it made me cry.

1151
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: It was it was crazy what triggered you? Like what

1152
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: you don't have to say anything you don't want to,

1153
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: but like what about it is what made it?

1154
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: We shot the music video back in my hometown. It

1155
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: was just like shots of you know, pictures growing up

1156
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: and uh, my buddy's headstone and video you know, I

1157
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: always go every time back home. I go and I

1158
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: sit there. I drank a beer with poor beer out

1159
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: for him and I sit there and it was a

1160
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: shot of that and something clicked and I was like, oh,

1161
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: I started kind of My buddy were sitting there watching

1162
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: TV and he was like, what the fuck's wrong? And

1163
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, bad, dude, I don't know. This

1164
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: truly got me and and I sent it to my

1165
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: folks and they were like it kind of pulls on

1166
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: the harsh trains the little be you know. And but

1167
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever wrote a song and cried.

1168
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: She was drunkenly cried and just don't remember it.

1169
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: How many phones do you have?

1170
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Phones?

1171
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: Phones?

1172
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: We got one phone? Okay, wow, is that what you're

1173
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: asking about the phone bill?

1174
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm just asking a question though. I just asked a

1175
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 3: question to see where it goes.

1176
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one phone.

1177
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: I was asking a question. That's what your name? Cod is?

1178
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: Like your third name? Huh?

1179
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got three names.

1180
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: I forget what it was, but.

1181
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: It's like I was nameless for three days. Dude, I

1182
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: didn't have a name for three days.

1183
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: Go ahead because they couldn't decide or they couldn't.

1184
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they said my mom was like super indecisive.

1185
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: My dad the same way. I'm the like the most

1186
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: indecisive person in the world. And so my dad always

1187
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: wanted to call me roper Co. And then whenever they

1188
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: had me, they were like, well, we're just naming roper

1189
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Madison because Madison is my granddad's bettle name. And then

1190
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell happened. They just I

1191
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: think they sent me home with this boy on the

1192
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: certificate and then I got there were like my grandma

1193
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: finally chied. She was like, well, so and so down

1194
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: the roads got three names. You know why I have

1195
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: three names? And so that's the roper Madison.

1196
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: Cots, Madison Cots.

1197
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: I always went by co though growing up, always went

1198
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: my co.

1199
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 3: So you were never roper.

1200
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: No. My teachers who caught me roper for like the

1201
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: first two days of school until they figured out yeah,

1202
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: and then it was like, why all the kids are

1203
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: calling them?

1204
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: Even the spelling of roper, it's not r O P

1205
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: E R Like they went full y Yeah, why was

1206
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: there a roper with?

1207
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: Why they the early nineties? Dude, I don't know what

1208
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: they were on back? Damn?

1209
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you ever do construction with your dad?

1210
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1211
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: What could you do now that?

1212
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: What's maybe surprise folks that don't know about you already?

1213
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: Meaning and I'll give you, I'll give you a second

1214
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: to think about it. I went on and did running

1215
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: while with better Girls on a couple of shows, and

1216
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: we went to Norway and I can I can skin

1217
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 2: a deer and I can I can gut whatever because

1218
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 2: I did that, But nobody knows me. Is that because

1219
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't do it anymore? But it was like we

1220
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: found this rotted goat and some of it was out

1221
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: of the water rest was frozen, so it's preserved just fine,

1222
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: and we're gonna eat it. And it was like, now

1223
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: we got to clean the ad no more and what

1224
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: And I am awkward and you know, I don't know

1225
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: too my hands.

1226
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm like just but I was like, oh yeah, no,

1227
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: but take it down. And he's like, wait, what is hat?

1228
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: Like?

1229
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I did this, I'm good here.

1230
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: What what is that for you?

1231
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: Just like some random ass ship?

1232
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Like sure, like if you did construction, you had to

1233
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: learn uh cement?

1234
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Like I mean I can, I could tie steel,

1235
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: poor concrete?

1236
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 3: Could you still kind of carve?

1237
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah, tie everything? Uh So I still have

1238
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: a construction company and love it.

1239
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: What do you mean you have it at yours?

1240
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Me and my buddy own a construction company and

1241
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: lovely Texas. My pops was Yellow Bush Construction, and my

1242
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: dad he was kind of going back and forth from

1243
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: construction jobs. He's been and concrete business for like twenty

1244
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: years and uh he was just kind of getting upset

1245
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: with it and tired of it. And so my buddy

1246
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, why don't we I already have this

1247
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: company kind of going why don't you come in with me,

1248
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, your dad can come up here

1249
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: and run it. And so he goes back and forth

1250
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh to Lubbock and runs it for me. And

1251
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of my gift to him, Like, you know, man,

1252
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: you've done all this for for me growing up. Won't

1253
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you stop for you to relax and just you know,

1254
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: watch over it and there you go again, like being

1255
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: a good dude, dude like I like to I like

1256
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: to please people.

1257
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: People get caught up and like the pictures and like

1258
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: you're good, You're gonna slow down a little bit, and

1259
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: you have emotions, not just one gear.

1260
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: No, let's take a quick pause for a message from

1261
00:51:51,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 4: our sponsor. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1262
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Gabe Simon. He told me whenever we were starting the record,

1263
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not a very emotional dude. And

1264
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: then after like the first or second, right, he was like,

1265
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: you're the most emotional dude I've ever met.

1266
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, and I think probably in creating

1267
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: your art, I can definitely hear emotion. I can feel

1268
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: emotion just from what you're singing about, right, But it's like,

1269
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: as a human, anything that I've consumed that you've done

1270
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: social media anything, which is why people are like, I

1271
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: don't know about that, dude. It's not like you're pouring

1272
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: your heart out talking just doing a selfie video, you

1273
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: know about how tough.

1274
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: The morning's been. Yeah, it's just soap opera. You know.

1275
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: He did in a way you didn't like. So, you know,

1276
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: that's again I didn't expect to like you.

1277
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1278
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: Do you believe in aliens?

1279
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: Fuck? Yeah? Absolutely?

1280
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 3: What what version?

1281
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1282
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: Well, there could be aliens from another planet, there could

1283
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: be different frequencies.

1284
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: That we I've watched all the Men in Black, so

1285
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, like all the those are.

1286
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: Like the little Green Men. Yeah. Yeah, you ever see

1287
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: and you ever see anything you can't explain.

1288
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: I've seen. I've seen ghosts before. I've seen uh, I've

1289
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: seen the Death Angel before. That was really weird.

1290
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear more about that.

1291
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, my my uncle had cancer, right and it

1292
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: was kind of getting towards the end of that and

1293
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: they had him Uh what is it is it hospice?

1294
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1295
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, uh, the night before he passed away,

1296
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: we were sitting in the loving room and there was

1297
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: a hallway. Uh in a doorway and I kept seeing

1298
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: like this figure come out and it's like really weird,

1299
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the light just gets really

1300
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: bright and shatters, So what the hell? And so we

1301
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it. I kept seeing that, so

1302
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, where's Grandma And they're like, she's

1303
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. I said, well, who's in the hallway.

1304
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: They were like, what are you talking about? Freaking everybody out?

1305
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: So night goes on and me and my dad are

1306
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: walked to the truck. He goes, what did you see?

1307
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: And I told him. He goes, I didn't want to

1308
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: freak anybody out, but I saw a shadow and then

1309
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: image of a person walk in and out of that

1310
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: room like two or three times, and he said, I

1311
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: just didn't say anything. I don't want to freaking money out.

1312
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: And next morning my uncle passed away and so we

1313
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: call it the death. Things were coming to get him.

1314
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: And I think, had you told me that story five

1315
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: years ago, i'd have been like, I don't know, man,

1316
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: maybe you had you had anything, I think I've just

1317
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: now started to allow myself because I nor anybody else

1318
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: can can prove that you're not telling the truth. There's

1319
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: no way to prove you're not telling truth. However, I

1320
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: have a friend who's got a cousin and she's she

1321
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: didn't say she's a psychic. It's not like I can

1322
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: predict the score a football game or but there are

1323
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: people with certain talents even like discernment, even toward like

1324
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: I have friends that can are great at telling if

1325
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: somebody's a liar, no, and like that's some sort of

1326
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: skill they have, it's something they've developed and so, and

1327
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: we were talking to a girl yesterday as an artist,

1328
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: but she's like, you know, I I feel like I

1329
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: can see like aura, and most i'd be like, you're

1330
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: so full of crap, But why what I say? I

1331
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: can't I can't tell she's lying. And two people are

1332
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: able to do some things other people just can't do

1333
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: and understand. And so I've started to kind of go,

1334
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: maybe there's some stuff happening, and it's way larger than

1335
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: I am, even around me. And so when I'm like aliens,

1336
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: it's like a ghost, for example, could be another dimension.

1337
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: This is totally weird, right, totally weird, but it could

1338
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: be like an alien, but that's just from another here.

1339
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 2: It's here, but we can't see them unless they actually

1340
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: cross over and have to go and take your uncle's sick.

1341
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: So that that stuff really is it's.

1342
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's whenever you really start thinking about it,

1343
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: it gets it keeps getting crazier and crazier because it's

1344
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: it's so everything's so vast, you know, and so big.

1345
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, wow, man, but aliens, aliens like

1346
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: little green men, we're talking about what it.

1347
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be a little green men, especially whenever

1348
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: you find out that we are basically one grain our universe,

1349
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: not even our planet. Yeah, our universe is one grain

1350
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: of sand on a massive beach. Like you're telling me

1351
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: all the.

1352
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: Other sand there ain't nothing.

1353
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: Government come out.

1354
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1355
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: Ups, So they're starting to slow slow release this stuff,

1356
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: like I guess we'll let you know. We can't explain this.

1357
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 2: We can't explain Yes, yeah, y'all known about it forever. Yes,

1358
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: And there I get I'll get on TikTok sometimes. And

1359
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm not alien guy. I'm not anti alien guy. Now,

1360
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in, but I'm not I'm not out on

1361
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: a street corner going they're coming for it. I'm not

1362
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: known as alien guy. But yeah, I will get on

1363
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: TikTok and I'll get down some I'll go down some

1364
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: of these rabbit holes with like these scientists and Air

1365
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: Force former air heads that have been flying around. Yes,

1366
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: and they're like, I know what I've seen and it's

1367
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: unlike anything that I've ever supposed to have seen. And

1368
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: people say I'm crazy, but it's not. This is what's happened.

1369
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: And have they been talking about anything else? We believe them,

1370
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: but because it's like something we can't explain, Like, nah,

1371
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: I got it's crazy now that there.

1372
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: Was running the freaking Air Force like entire military brand.

1373
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: It's it's it's out there man, They're they're definitely.

1374
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: You get a lot of places send in your free guitars.

1375
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: Free guitars. Yeah, I think I've only been given like

1376
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: two or three free guitars, and it's been like Deans

1377
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: or Indianas or something.

1378
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: What do you what do people want you to do

1379
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: for them?

1380
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: Like, what's the most requested thing that people are like,

1381
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: we'd like for code to play. It's obviously like guitars.

1382
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: What would it be like inment wise? It could be

1383
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 3: any kind of endoor.

1384
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: It could be freaking beer, it could be shoes, it

1385
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: could be a guitar and instrument.

1386
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Like pretty much anything that you can think, like fishing gear.

1387
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: I got like a troller motor and some ship put

1388
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: on my boat the other day. Like you know, you know,

1389
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: we'llknock the price out a little bit if you just

1390
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: post about this or do a video for us, you know,

1391
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: like got this new fishing fishing pole, shut out fun

1392
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: and son and heir sexes. That wasn't a plug by

1393
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: the way either. Yeah, but no, like stuff like.

1394
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: That, do you ever feel like you don't want to

1395
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: say yes, because then you feel like you'll owe them

1396
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: and there they'll never like.

1397
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't like to take a whole

1398
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: lot of free stuff just because I don't. I don't

1399
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: want to feel like it's bizarre.

1400
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: We always want all the free stuff until we get

1401
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: to the point where then we start to get it.

1402
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: We're like, I don't want any more because they're home

1403
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: the whole time. Yeah, uh okay, well you got this

1404
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: all this music about to come out. I don't know,

1405
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: are you gonna be different to some people in their

1406
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: eyes by what you're about to tell us about who

1407
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: you are? And not completely, but are you about to

1408
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: do some stuff musically sonically, even they're gonna feel differently

1409
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: about you.

1410
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about feel differently about me. I think

1411
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: they'll accept uh kind of where my where my music's going,

1412
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: because I've said from day one, like, I want to

1413
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: be diverse. Hell, I don't want to be that artist

1414
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: that you know, nothing against artists that have the same

1415
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: sound for thirty years, but I don't want to be

1416
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: that guy. And so I've always I've always took chances

1417
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: with sounds and and different genres, try to blend other genres.

1418
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that that's what's coming with this

1419
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: new record. I think people are gonna accept it, especially

1420
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: my fans. You know. I'm sure that they're gonna be

1421
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: some of the die hards that are pretty pissed off

1422
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: at what it is, But for the most part, I

1423
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: think they're they're gonna be all right.

1424
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Is it all done mixed?

1425
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean no, I actually I just got some of

1426
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: mixes in a day. It's not completely done.

1427
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 2: But have you heard any of the songs where you're like, man,

1428
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: that this this? I know, we spend a bunch of

1429
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: time on it, we tracked it, we mixed it. It's

1430
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: just not where it is let's just start it over.

1431
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, I have really good that well, and that

1432
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: was that was one of the things that we talked

1433
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: about is how crazy it was for us to go

1434
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: in and write and cut these songs so quick, you know,

1435
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: especially after just leaning one another, you know, me and

1436
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: Gabe Simon and Amy Allen, uh Sam Harris. So it

1437
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: was really it was really cool to go in there

1438
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: that fast and make music like that and put it out.

1439
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: I know you haven't been on the you say body

1440
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: cabin fever right before you get to go back out

1441
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: and just do a lot of shows.

1442
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: Have you been playing at all? And have you played

1443
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: any new stuff.

1444
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: Out besides like dear Cam, campfires and ship.

1445
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: But know where where people could buy tickets and record it?

1446
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Would you? Would you?

1447
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: Are you putting it out new stuff yet of you

1448
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: just playing? Or have you in the past and before

1449
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: you decided to actually cut the song? Is there anything

1450
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: out like a work to know? You don't even tell

1451
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: me if there was. I figured you were that's all right,

1452
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: that's all right. Well, look, yeah I enjoyed this. I

1453
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: don't know how you felt before you came over here.

1454
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: Well you're about to get into because I never know

1455
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: how people feel about me, nor do I really care

1456
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: because I always feel like, once they're here, it'll have

1457
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: to be good or it'll be fine. It's never going

1458
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: to be bad because everybody's professionals. What did they How

1459
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: did you feel about coming over here to do this?

1460
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Honestly, this is probably like the first interview that I've

1461
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: done in two years. I don't really do interviews.

1462
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: There was nothing for me to see, like because I'm

1463
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: looking because I don't want to go to the same

1464
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: place as other people have been, and so yeah, there

1465
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: was there was almost nothing of recent memory.

1466
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: So I appreciate you doing by the way. I appreciate

1467
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: you coming that.

1468
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Having me in. I know I was, I don't know,

1469
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I was kind of sweating

1470
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: a little bit just because I haven't done one in

1471
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: so long.

1472
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: And so it's more about you than me being a douchebag.

1473
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't worried about you if you'd have been

1474
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: a douchebag and I'd said fuck off and left, so and.

1475
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: The op here's a story. I almost don't like telling

1476
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: the story anymore. Okay, there's a certain person I'm like,

1477
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who it is off here and some

1478
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: of my heart of my old school people will know

1479
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: who it is. It was an interview I was doing.

1480
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: She was getting a little test I shouldn't said she

1481
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: the person was. The person was getting a little testy.

1482
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: And I've been known to just pop off like I'm

1483
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: a nice guy. I'm a carrying guy, but I'm also

1484
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: I have a quick trigger at times, super competitive, and

1485
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: I just if we're both working towards something, you're disrespectful,

1486
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: just go I'm.

1487
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: Not gonna tall I'm not gonna hollerrate it.

1488
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: And she was being quite disrespectful in the interview, and

1489
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: she had a book, and then I just asked her

1490
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: a question from her book and it was hey, x

1491
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: y Z. She said, I don't know why you'd asked

1492
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: me that you'll never be me. So she said to me,

1493
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: you'll never.

1494
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: Be me live.

1495
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: So here I am, and I go, you know what,

1496
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be you. You need to you

1497
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: need to leave on the air. So I told her

1498
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: she she must leave the studio. Not the first person

1499
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: I've kicked out live, but I definitely it's not my

1500
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do because we're coming to accomplish something.

1501
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: Be compelling, so people will listen to me and then

1502
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: check out yours.

1503
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: Understand. Understand.

1504
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: Yes, So she's terrible and her.

1505
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: Person was waiting for me outside the building to beat

1506
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: me up like her her husband, And that was bizarre

1507
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: for me, and I didn't like it, but I was

1508
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: proud that I was just like, yeah, I gotta go because.

1509
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: Like, that's not a vibe I want to put out.

1510
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you get as much respect as you.

1511
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: But I also felt like I would do it now too,

1512
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: like in the same way we'd have Mike do it,

1513
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, like Mike take him out of here. Well, look,

1514
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: congratulations on all your success. Man, appreciate you've done it

1515
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: the hard way, and that's that's extremely respectable.

1516
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: And just don't don't don't get hurt.

1517
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. Don't worry.

1518
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: No, just don't be so bad. You're not gonna be

1519
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: good now. I'm never like school kid going to college.

1520
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: As soon as you get back down on the road,

1521
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: it's like we're let's go crazy.

1522
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: Just don't make you it's just got like a half

1523
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: leg or something.

1524
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: You almost had that today You're like, yeah.

1525
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: I'll be I got a lot of good people around

1526
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: men good. Good.

1527
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: Uh, I appreciate your time, and I'm rooting for you.

1528
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't. Yeah, now I am. I'm glad. Yeah yeah,

1529
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't not rooting for you.

1530
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, who cares, I'm going to get

1531
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: a call from him or something that He's like, Man,

1532
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: this music is bullshit. We're even talking about.

1533
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: All right, So everybody, so you can follow co. It's

1534
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: in our notes. It's on the notes of here. You

1535
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: can see it. But it's AoE underscore Wetzel and Co

1536
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: Wetzel music.

1537
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1538
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: What was the Morgan shows? How were they any Morgan?

1539
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: That's coming up?

1540
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: Because I saw that on an image I saw you.

1541
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: It was like Morgan walling. I didn't follow up. I

1542
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: don't read the body.

1543
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 3: I just saw the image. So you're going out with him?

1544
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I think we're doing We're just a one show right

1545
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: at and T Stadium and the Capital Stadium. Yeah, that's

1546
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: a that's gonna be crazy. That's that's gonna be a

1547
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: highlight for me.

1548
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be well, great to

1549
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: meet you. And I don't know, maybe I should drink

1550
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: That's what I felt.

1551
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. Man, this sounds good.

1552
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I had a couple of cocktails before I came over

1553
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: hanging what what is?

1554
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: What is your non beer drink of choice right now?

1555
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: It's it's a vocaso. Usually it's like an old fashion

1556
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, Like a bourbon whiskey. Yeah,

1557
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: whiskey whiskey.

1558
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a palette enough to tell a expensive bourbon?

1559
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: You do?

1560
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big bourbon guay.

1561
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: Are you a bit of a knob in that air?

1562
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a snob. So you'll drink yeah, yeah,

1563
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: I'll drink it. I'll drink alcohol, just straight up yeah, alcohols, alcohols.

1564
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man, Good luck, man.

1565
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 4: Thank you so everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby

1566
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 4: Cast production.