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Speaker 1: It turns out, guys that if we want to be

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Speaker 1: if we want to experience less burnout and we want

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Speaker 1: to feel completely and totally fulfilled in our lives, the

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Speaker 1: kind of job that we have would dictate whether that

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Speaker 1: we can do that. And I think we're just in

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Speaker 1: a wrong kind of job. I think that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: so burnt out. I'm burnt out. It's not because this

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Speaker 1: place is full of skitz and lies.

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Speaker 2: It's not that at all.

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the skits and lies

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Speaker 1: of going around here all the time well and then

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Speaker 1: nothing happens. It has to do with the fact that

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Speaker 1: we need a more physically demanding or dirty job to

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Speaker 1: feel less burnout.

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Speaker 2: Sanitation construction.

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Speaker 1: Even exotic dancers may experience less burnout than those in

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Speaker 1: office roles. This could be because they have clear, more

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Speaker 1: tangible tasks and feel less self conscious about their work.

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Speaker 2: So this is the problem.

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Speaker 1: What we need is a dirty job, like apparently dirty

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Speaker 1: meaning dirty physically dirty, morally, we need a dirty job.

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Speaker 2: Take it off.

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Speaker 1: But I can I can kind of see how this

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Speaker 1: is true. I agree with that too, because, like I suppose,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing a job and it's like here's the

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Speaker 1: here's the like, build this, Yes, this is the task

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Speaker 1: in hand, right exactly exactly, stack these bricks, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: Build this wall?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make this, make this person give you a hundred bucks?

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Speaker 2: Build this? But why is it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Why why here? You go back on his schedule? You

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Speaker 2: know what?

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to spend that. Okay, you know exactly

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Speaker 1: what I meant. All right, don't build that wall, build

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Speaker 1: another kind of hole. Your constructing job. I didn't say

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Speaker 1: you construction job in Arizona. I always say that. I

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Speaker 1: remember said that. Okay, do not miss you, enjoy the

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Speaker 1: soft I hate you. I'm no longer looking at you admiringly.

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Speaker 1: And that took three minutes whatever, whatever the thing is.

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Speaker 1: But do you have one I'm gonna have? Do you

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Speaker 1: have one of these jobs?

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Speaker 2: Eight?

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Speaker 1: Five, five, five, nine one oh three five? Do you

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Speaker 1: have one of these jobs? And do you think that's true?

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Speaker 1: Because you know around here it can be a little obscure.

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Speaker 1: You know, we come in here, we do a good job.

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Speaker 1: We think we do a good job. Some people tell

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Speaker 1: us that we suck, but it's okay. That will always happen.

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Speaker 1: And then and then we kind of cross our fingers

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Speaker 1: and we wait, we wait to see what the what

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Speaker 1: the writings people will tell us, and.

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Speaker 2: Usually it's it's decent news.

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Speaker 1: And then every now and again, it's all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: You guys are a bunch of morons.

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Speaker 2: But we have no idea. We have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Office workers, though, have unclear tasks and are always getting

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Speaker 1: interrupted by emails, messages, notifications, which can lead to stress

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Speaker 1: and exhaustion. Apparently having a straightforward, hands on job might

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Speaker 2: Is also true.

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Speaker 1: I see that if I'm constructing a roof that's part

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Speaker 1: I'm doing drywall. I mean it's like cleaning though, Like

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Speaker 1: think about when you clean your house or vacuuming especially,

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Speaker 1: it's a very very fulfilling activity because when you're mowing

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Speaker 1: the lawn, when you're done, look I just did that,

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Speaker 1: I can see my work as where if I write

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Speaker 1: a thousand emails, I don't necessarily walk away feeling like

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Speaker 1: I did something, I really did something right. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't feel completion because it never ends, you know, exactly,

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Speaker 1: like with this type of job, like our brains are

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Speaker 1: always on. Now it's not like we just get to

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Speaker 1: clock out. Like when I used to dance a labar

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Speaker 2: And then when you got home, the work was done.

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Speaker 1: The work was done, and nobody was eating. There were

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Speaker 1: no emails from labart No, no, mainly because we didn't

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Speaker 2: Their house phone occasionally, yeah, no, they did.

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Speaker 1: They did just to tell me to come in because

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Speaker 3: I've had this argument in my house before where I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know, your job, you get to turn it off

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Speaker 3: when you come home. It's yes, And he's like, girls,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's so much more than that. You

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Speaker 3: But he will argue that his job is much more

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Speaker 3: and I'm just like, yeah, so people I don't know this.

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Speaker 3: It has been a hot button in my house before.

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Speaker 2: Same here, like first responder life. Yeah, because like he

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Speaker 1: Around the house the fireman for the record, he's a fireman,

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Speaker 1: fireman actually saving lives. Maybe I just feel like, you know,

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Speaker 2: But with me, it's not like that. I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people can relate, you know.

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Speaker 1: No, I remember in college, I get a job before

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Speaker 1: radio at a sports internship at a sports marketing firm.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a sports marketing Oh wow, I'm fancy. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, they had a side business.

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Speaker 1: They sold bobbleheads of like sports figures in sets. And

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Speaker 1: So I was essentially a manual worker. I did not

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Speaker 1: it's literally a warehouse as big as you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: then someone else shipped them. But the reason I bring

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Speaker 1: felt very good. I haven't really felt that feeling in

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Speaker 1: you and tell you that you didn't you know, probably

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Speaker 1: that you didn't do it right. Maybe they will if

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Speaker 1: you really screwed it up. But I mean, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, it's if I show up and I do

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Speaker 1: of knowing that I completed the task.

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Speaker 2: It hand Yep, Yeah, I like that. I missed that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it never we never feel done.

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Speaker 2: You go, all right, well, there it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm a carpenter, finished carpenter, and I still get burnt town.

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Speaker 1: Someone said, yeah, I guess. So my husband to teamster

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Speaker 1: and delivers beer in the summer. They're working like fourteen

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Speaker 1: hour days union iron worker here. There's definitely burnt out

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Speaker 1: the end of a hard day. But you get the

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Speaker 1: satisfaction of driving on bridges and going in buildings that

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Speaker 1: you helped build. That's what I mean. Like if you

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Speaker 1: and then when the thing's done, you like look at

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Speaker 1: the skyline, like I helped build that. Yeah. They hell

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Speaker 1: am I going to walk away with? And you know,

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Speaker 1: whenever this is over right and they get a pension