1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Buck with you? Buck, what's going on? 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Man? Man? That's too much DJ just hanging in there. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to ask you about the experience. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: I saw the score, but I got to hear about 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: the championship. Oh yeah, we got our face kicked in. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: We played Bishop O'Dowd head coach Hardy Nickerson, and this 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: will be a great Then. I'm curious to get your 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: reaction on this because this was mine team felt I 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: think felt pretty confident from the tape, like watching the tape, like, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: oh yeah, we got a shot. We got a good 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: shot against this team. But when you're a Southern California 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: team playing a Northern California team, you don't know the 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: opponents that they're playing, so you don't know what that 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: looks like. And yeah, I think they might have got 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: some kid. I don't know if there are transfers or what, 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: but for the back half of the year that maybe 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: they didn't have in the early portion of season, which 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: kind of change the makeup. Anyways, I go out there 21 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: for warm ups and I'm watching them warm up, and 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: they're barking buck. There's a nice little little edge to them, 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: you know. 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Ok. 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: And I see a couple of white house. They got 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: some speed, they got a little edge. I thought, okay, 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: this is they're going to have their hands full here. 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: And then they go out for the coin toss. Now 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: I get a little sideline pass them on the far side. 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: I'd stay out of everybody's way out the far side 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: of the field. Coin toss at the fifty. I don't 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: hear them whatever team called it. I think we were 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: the home team, so they would have called it. I 34 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: don't hear anything. I don't hear the ref say anything. 35 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't hear them call it. But I heard loud 36 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: as day, we'll take the ball after they won the toss, 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: and I went, oh, no, that's not good. 38 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: They wanted to jump right into that. They did not 39 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: want to mess around. They said we will take the ball. 40 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: We ended up getting a stop on that one, and 41 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: then we marched the ball down and got stopped in 42 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: a fourth ounce. It just kind of a little back 43 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: and forth, and then once they scored, they did not stop. 44 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: It was thirty seven nothing. 45 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: So here's what's in and it wasn't too We had 46 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the conversation that I knew that you were playing Hardy's 47 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: team where Hardy and I go back to coaching on 48 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the Nike Tour, and my first experience, like as a coach, 49 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: like in the camp circuit, is against him, and he 50 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator of this also team that they 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: created for him. I think it was great Ion Kings 52 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: down in Orlando and DJ like he is the nicest 53 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: person away from the thing. But to no, Hardy, you 54 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: have to understand, this is Hardy Nickerson. They played for 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Buccaneers. Who's very edgy. Oh when 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: you told me they're playing I said, man, I've seen 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: his seven on seven teams take on his personality, I 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: can only imagine how physical and feisty his teams are. 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: So I expected it to be a physical affair, but 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: I did not know what it was going to look 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: like compared to like, Hey, I've seen their scores, I've 62 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: seen who they played there, but you can't understand it. 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: They were bigger. 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: They were bigger, and they had more speed and the 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: quarterback played good, which I don't think they were expecting that, 66 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: but I think they got a run back and he 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: was good like Sack State and some of those type 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: of offers, but they, yeah, they he had them well coached, 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: and it was just you know, with kids, you can 70 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: kind of see who the alphas are, like who the 71 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: aggressors are. 72 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: In those games, particularly when it's not known opponents, like 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I think the state championship games in California are hard. 74 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: So I remember when we went up to Sam Maren. 75 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: You can look at tape, but you don't have a 76 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: no contact nominal. You don't know. And so then we 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: get up there and I was like, oh, way different, 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: this is not what we signed up for. Yeah, it's 79 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: a different experience. And anyone who knows California will move 80 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: on to this. It was not not a great weekend 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: for southern California up a little bit, except for except 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer. 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Guards Palmer took care of business. I haven't talked to 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: Mauricey if we talked to m j D. 85 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: I have not, but I've listened to t J Ward 86 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: talking to podcasts about the disappointment in Dayla Seal. But 87 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: what I would say with Dayla sl Man Apple was 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: in Oranges. Those grown men now Santa Maria like like 89 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: down in Santa Margarita, that Trinity League, what they're doing 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: with I mean all of them, modern day sir, right, 91 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Orange Lutheran Bosco is just a different hustle. And look, 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: it comes down to, dudes. We can talk about X's 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and o's is, Jimmy's and Joe's, and those teams have 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the best Jimmis and Joe's that you can find. Do 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you think we're headed towards? 96 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: And then we'll get to the NFL stuff here in 97 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: just amount of I promise, But I'm curious on this front. 98 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Like the Trinity League, for those that don't know that 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Bucky's just talking about, is all the premier teams in 100 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: La Orange County. 101 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: So it's powerhouses. 102 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: They're bringing kids in from the Bay Area, from Arizona 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: from all time. Chris Henry came from Cincinnati, Chris Henry Jr. 104 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: So all the top talent is coalescing in these in 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: these schools. And this year was as an upset because 106 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Santa Margarita kind of crashed the party where you'd had 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: modern day and Saint John Bosco kind of in the 108 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: two powers and they end up with Carson Palmer as 109 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: their head coach. They win the whole thing, and I 110 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: know that. I'm sure that they're not number one ranked 111 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: in the country, but I don't think anybody's beating them. 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't care where they come from, what other teams, 113 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: all comers. I think they could handle it. But I'm 114 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: just wondering with the NIL stuff. We've gone from professional 115 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: football to nil, making college football professional football, to the 116 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: point where now colleges are announcing that they've resigned their players. 117 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: He's been putting those things out of the years resigned. 118 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: To I'm wondering if that, since all that talent's there, 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: is that going to end up dropping even down to 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: that where you've got kids in high school or getting 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: more money to go from one school to the next. 122 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's just the next thing that's 123 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: going to happen. Look, I'll say this, and it's not 124 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: supposed to happen, but it's happening. Man. You hear the 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: stories on the word on the street. This person got this, 126 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and this person has did or this roster's value that 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: this much money in terms of what they spent. And 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: it's unfair because you have what I call high school 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and you have elite club high school football which is 130 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: also our teams whatever, And I think we have to 131 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: kind of separate them because the playing fields aren't love 132 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: like what you witnessed, uh doing your championship game. That's 133 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: neighborhood kids like that. Oh yeah, hey, let's let's grab 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: the balls like what they're doing Santa Margareta and those 135 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: those are not your neighborhood kids. And so it's unfair 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: to kind of judge that kind of high school. Now, 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: it's great to watch. When I watch those teams, it's 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: like looking at small college well, because they're doing things 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: that you were doing college, because you have the personnel 140 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: that is going to play in college, which is different 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: than the high school that's around the corner. 142 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know there's people probably listening to us, going 143 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: to get onto the other stuff. We don't care about 144 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: high school fotball, but look, it's where the sport's going. 145 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: It's that's the grassroots we talk about all the time. 146 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's jump into some of these NFL games. But 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: because on this episode there's just so many good matchups 148 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: with playoff implications that I wanted to give that some 149 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: do this week. Let's start first of all, Seattle and 150 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: the LA Rams they are going to get together for 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: the second time. We've been talking about it from the 152 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: beginning the year about how much we were looking forward 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: to that. 154 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: The Rams. 155 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I thought they really kind of got out played by 156 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: Seattle in that first meeting, but they are able to 157 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: turn Sam Darnold over several times end up winning a 158 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: close ballgame this time. This one's up in Seattle as 159 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: they welcome the Rams on a short week on a 160 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: Thursday night. 161 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, DJ, this is about even a matchup as you 162 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: can find. When I look at both of these teams, 163 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: they are very complete. You don't see a glaring weakness. 164 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Both teams you can envision being in the Super Bowl, 165 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: just given how they constructed, how they've played, how they've 166 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: continued to get better throughout the season. In this game, uh, 167 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Seattle is the more motivated team obviously to even up 168 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: the series. But when I look at them coming in 169 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: JSN is a nightmare. What they've created the trade she 170 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: she that's oh he makes the difference. Yeah, that's paid 171 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: off handsomly from them. Their ability to run the ball 172 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: and all those things. The only thing that keeps that 173 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: is making me pause. Sam's Donald's last two games against 174 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: the Rams and not going well, can't he crack the 175 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: code in terms of just taking care of the ball 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: against that team or does that team have something on 177 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: him that he can't get past. 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought last week was a good 179 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: sign with Sam the way he finished that game when 180 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: they was. 181 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: A great finished. 182 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: There was a great finish and making those throws in. 183 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: You know, he brought up for Raheid Sheheed and the 184 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: role that he could play for this team. I actually 185 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: happened to watch the tape of the Rams Lions game, 186 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: and then after that I watched the Seattle Indie game 187 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: and I was struck bucking and I know they didn't 188 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: win the game, but Detroit scored a lot of points 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: and they moved up and down the field on them, 190 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: and I'm. 191 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: Sitting there watching it going Okay, well, who do we compare. 192 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: JSN too when he was coming out, I'm Aros Saint Brown, Okay, 193 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: Jamis and Williams and all that big big speed Okay, 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: sheet same exact guy. Like, they can duplicate a lot 195 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: of the pieces of that offense. And I think there's 196 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: gonna be opportunities for them against the Rams seconecondary or 197 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: they're going to be able to hit some plays. Now, 198 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: Crosses was getting nicked up a little bit at the 199 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: end of that game. We'll see, you know what his 200 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: status is for that game. As we're recording this, we 201 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: don't know that would be a big loss for them, 202 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: but I do think there's going to be some opportunities 203 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: there for Seattle's offense against the secondary and Sam just 204 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: needs to protect the ball better. But to me, I 205 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: think that's that's something I would be looking forward to. 206 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: And then you flip it over to the other side. 207 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: I was looking at all the explosives for the Rams offense. 208 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: One of the things that stood out to me is 209 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: just simple down and distance. If you were sitting, if 210 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: you're on defense and the Rams are second and four 211 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: and they've got and they got two or three tight 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: ends out there, better you better back up because they 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: are going to take their shots. 214 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, It's funny because you brought it up very 215 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: early in the season, what they've been able to do 216 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: out of thirteen personnel heavy sets in those things, and 217 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: going all the way back to my time around John 218 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Gruden and other coaches, they always wanted to use uh 219 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: he used to call it you personnel two tight ends 220 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: two backs, one wide receive, because what you're guaranteed is 221 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you get off coverage on the outside and if you 222 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: have a really good receiver. It's hard in this league 223 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: to play a really good receiver from off And what 224 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: the Rams have been able to do is they put 225 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: you in these snug alignments where it's almost like an 226 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: unbalanced run formation to create all these opportunities down the field, 227 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: either for the receiver or tight ends on layered crossing routes. 228 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: It's something that you better be ready to defend. And 229 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I looked up I think Matthew seven is like twenty 230 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: seven red zone touchdowns. A bunch of those are off 231 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: of those tight bunch, heavy set looks. That's first and foremost. 232 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: That has to be the top priority if you to 233 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: see ow to have a plan to deal with the 234 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: jumbo personnel. Yeah, I'll tell you what I would. 235 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: If you're going to get the core corps half look 236 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: that the Rams were given Detroit and that in the 237 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: red zone they hit them on skinny post twice. They're 238 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: working on the other side Bingham warm Ountain. 239 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, bang them. Uh it's called that Dino rank. Yeah. 240 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: One guy take the safety cross face and come the 241 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: corners out leverage. Yeah, it's it's a problem. This This 242 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great matchup. Now you have the 243 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: good fortune of not be in the studio. I am working. 244 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Oh you're in Thursday, you got me, so I'm in. 245 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun to talk about, fun to watch. 246 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: But look, man, we're talking about I'm gonna see it. 247 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: The difference between the first and the fifth. I mean, 248 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: Sam Donald's played in this game. Last year, you know, 249 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: it did not go their way. He didn't play. He 250 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: was probably his worst game. I know people point to 251 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: the playoff game against the Rams, but that was more 252 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: an o line. This year he did not play well 253 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: at Detroit and it was a one to five game. 254 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: The winners the one, the losers the five. Like that's 255 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: a massive game. And here he is right back the 256 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: next year, right back then another one to five game. 257 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Well, the experiences from last year child serving will this 258 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: year if he doesn't make the game bigger than it 259 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: needs to be. Just play the game, don't even worry 260 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: about the opponent. It's really up to Koob Yeah, to 261 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: make sure he accests him up for success, no doubt. 262 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some of these other games. 263 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: I want to get to your game, which is gonna 264 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: be a big one. Man, Jacksonville and Denver, a huge, 265 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: huge game. I know from the Chargers side of things, 266 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: as someone who calls their games, they'll be keeping an 267 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: eye on that score because that could put the AFC 268 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: West potentially back in play. 269 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's an interesting game and it's a big 270 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: one for the Jags. They won't see it outwardly, but 271 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: you know it's a big one. It's a measuring stick 272 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: thing because you talk about them flying up under the 273 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: radar for most of the season. Well, if you knock 274 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: off the Denver Broncos, who are in the middle of 275 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: eleven game win, street mail os begin to go to 276 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: you as a team that has a legitimate chance. Here's 277 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the challenge. The challenge is the Dinver's Broncos defense is outstanding. 278 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: They're terrific man match coverage what they're able to do. 279 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: And you know, Vance Joseph is funny because he used 280 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: to be a blitz blitz blitz, splitz splitz guy. Now 281 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: they're more simulated pressures, more four man rushes, sticky match coverage, 282 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: but it matching up and doing everything they can make 283 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: it very very difficult view to get open. This would 284 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: be the test for the Jaguars wideouts. Can they consistently 285 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: win They're one on ones against a really good defensive 286 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: backfield that is unafraid to lock up and play variations 287 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: of man and man on the outside. Yeah, that's gonna 288 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: be a challenge. 289 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: I think physicality wise, I think Jacksonville's going to match up. 290 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to match up on both sides. 291 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: From that standpoint, Well, that's what they want to do. 292 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: That's who they are. 293 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: You know. They want to talk about being a physical 294 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: team and the thing that you're going to see is 295 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna run the football. They can try and set 296 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: up the run, and it's another game for Trevor to 297 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: see if he's ready to take that next step. Now 298 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: we've been around with five years. We've been talking about 299 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Trevor even before then when we saw him at the opening. Look. 300 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: He has always shown flashes of being the guy. But 301 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity on a big stage to show 302 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: people that he's ready to kind of walk the walk 303 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: into that club. Is one of the top quarterbacks in 304 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: the league. Ignore the numbers, trust your eyes. The last 305 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: three weeks he's been terrific. Now it's gonna be a 306 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: little different against his pass us because they can hit 307 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: you up with three different guys coming, and that's going 308 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: to that's going to test the offensive line. But if 309 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Trevor is protected, then it comes a pitch and catch game. 310 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: And how did he do it? I will say this 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: if you're looking at this game Washton running backs the 312 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks for the Jaguars, Travistn Toutan is 313 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: not playing, but they've been using the running backs to 314 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: take advantage of matchups on backers that could be their 315 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: outlet against the tight coverage on the outside. Oh, we're 316 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna feed the pig and see if we can win 317 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: these matchups own backers to create opportunities in space and 318 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: first downs. I like that. 319 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: And on the defensive side of the ball, would say 320 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: for Jacksonvilley to somehow pull this thing off, I would 321 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: say the h's this week got to you gotta hold 322 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: get Bnex to hold the ball, but then you've got 323 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: to hem him in the pocket. So what you don't 324 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: want is his ability to get the ball out right 325 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: now from in the pocket or his ability to get 326 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: outside the pocket by time scramble and get big plays. 327 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: You want him to hold the ball, but you got 328 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: to hem him in. Man, it's got to be a 329 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: little more of a controlled rush this week. 330 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Look, man, let's talk about how good he's been. He's been. 331 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: He's just so good. Like he's been so good. I 332 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: think he has seven game winning drives or whatever that is, 333 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: six or seven game winning drives. He's been terrific pushing 334 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: the ball. People talk about, oh, he can't carry it. 335 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Last week they dared him. They took the way to 336 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: run a game. Three hundred yard day, three touchdowns. Man, 337 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: he had Michael Parson's running all over the place trying 338 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: to chase him. And you're right, if he gets outside 339 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: the pocket, man, that's when it's scary for opponents. He's 340 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: become a really, really good player that people don't talk 341 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: about enough in terms of his growth and maturation in 342 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: the second year as a quarterback, no doubt. All right, 343 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: take quick break, we'll come back. 344 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: We'll not got a couple more of these games, all right, 345 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: buckets the rematch. You know this matchup quite well, Green 346 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: Bay in Chicago. I don't know if you saw the 347 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: post game stuff in the Chicago locker room, but I 348 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: think it was DJ Moore. No, no, no, it's to 349 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: marcol Jackson, was my app state linebacker who they gave 350 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: a game ball to, who's been playing great for him, 351 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: and I think he made the comment like he still 352 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: had a bad taste in his mouth the Green Bay game. 353 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: And so they get a chance to try and get 354 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: that division on in a really good spot if they 355 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: could somehow knock off the Packers at home. 356 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: And they got a wounded Packers team coming into the building, 357 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: not only the jines of injury to Michael Parsons, but 358 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Christian Watson having the chest injury. So we don't know 359 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: what that looks like. And the Packers have lost so 360 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: many pieces along the way, thinking about the loss of 361 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Tucker Craft and just having to deal with so many 362 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: different things. You wonder how much is too much for 363 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: them to be able to sustain and continue to be 364 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the team they are. Coming off a frustrating loss to 365 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I think it's tough for the Packers. And 366 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: if we're honest, man, I know they knocked off the 367 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Bears two weeks ago. Feel like the Bears are just 368 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: playing better, Paul, You know, like they are. People will say, 369 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: well they want I said, yeah, but you just ayes. 370 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: You just look at how the Bears are playing. This 371 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be personal. It's gonna be a good one. 372 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for the Packers to win in 373 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the wind the city. A little bit of a short 374 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: week too. 375 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: It's a Saturday game and Chicago to meet their offensive line. 376 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: I mentioned it the other day. They've been able to 377 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: dent defensive lines. Man, They're getting a movement and it's 378 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: been physical. I think this is an offensive line day 379 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: for the Bears. Let's get to a couple more. Pittsburgh 380 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: had a big one the other night against the ugly, 381 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: ugly Miami team, especially offensively, but they have stepped up 382 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: and challenge here. 383 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: They've got to go to Detroit. Detroit fighting for their 384 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: playoff lives here. Yeah, there's something about Detroit. When I 385 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: watched him play against the Rams, I feel like, man, 386 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: they can just find their way into the tournament. They 387 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: can be a problem for opponents just because of the 388 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: explosiveness and they're know how. In terms of navigating the postseason, 389 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: I think they found their rhythm offensively. Dan Campbell has 390 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: unlocked some pieces. When you see Amamra Saint Brown and 391 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Jameson Williams get loose while they're still having the running game. 392 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot to handle. And Jerry Golf is playing 393 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: really well. It's a tough offense, man, it's a really 394 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: difficult offense to deal with. And Dan Campbell is beginning 395 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: to find his way as a play called. 396 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: I think this ends up being a shootout, and I 397 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: think you end up seeing you know, Rogers played pretty well. 398 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I think he has a big game. I think they're 399 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: going to be able to make some plays down the 400 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: field with DK and company. But I also worry about 401 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Corners holding up against this Detroit pass receiving 402 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: duo out there. So I think it's a high scoring game. 403 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't have a great feel. I would say Detroit 404 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: probably stick with them to win this game. But I 405 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: think it ends up being a really, really high scoring affair. 406 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: I think you'll see good Aaron Rodgerson to playing indoors. 407 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: He likes playing in there. I think you'll see a 408 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: good version of him in that passing attack man. 409 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Every time you count the Pittsburgh still is out. They 410 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: somehow found their way back into the conversation. The performance 411 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: they had on Monday night. There's probably one of the 412 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: best offensive performances we've seen from them in terms of 413 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: the rhythm in the passing game, DK Metcalf and others 414 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: getting involved. I just don't know if they can score 415 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: enough against Alliance. I always think about Pittsburgh like Man 416 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: twenty is like the cap on what they normally can do, 417 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: and on Monday they got past that, but it was 418 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: so hard for them to do. I'm gonna take the Lions. 419 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: I don't really know. I'm gonna take the Lions just 420 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: because the offense. I think their offense is just gonna 421 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: put the number up that I don't know if to 422 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: steal this can match. Yeah, I'm probably lean in that direction. There. 423 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Let's get to just a few more here, Tampa Bay 424 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: and Carolina in the battle for a underwhelming division in 425 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: the NFL. Here both sitting at seven and seven. It's 426 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: wide open for both these teams. 427 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, DJ, I feel like my brother matches your 428 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Padres fandom. He's the Panther guy now with his love 429 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: of the Panthers, and it's the roller coaster ride. Like 430 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: the emojis are good and bad and good and bad, 431 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: and so just when they have the division right there 432 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: for them to take. They lay an egg and they 433 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: don't play well against the Saints. That's it. Whenever they've 434 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: had to play up, they played better against. They play 435 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: up to the level of competition. I think they'll play 436 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: up this week. Bryce Young has been effective. I think 437 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna try and find t Mac early and often. 438 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: They got to get back to running the football because 439 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: when they run the football allows them to control the game. 440 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: And then defensively they have to limit the big plays 441 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: that the Bucks have done. After talk Bowles and passion, 442 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: uh post get away, Uh, they have to beerform better. 443 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the Panthers. Maybe that's the home home love, 444 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: but I'm leaning towards the Panthers. 445 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: All Right, New England, Baltimore, New England man tough loss. 446 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: They blow that big lead against Buffalo. Now you got 447 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: to go take on a Baltimore Ravens team who's in 448 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: that fight with the with Pittsburgh for the AFC North 449 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: title here and that's kind of their pathway. So a 450 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: huge game for Baltimore and New England's got all of 451 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 2: a sudden from being in control of this whole thing, 452 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: being in a little bit of trouble inside this division. 453 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: They dropped this game. Yeah, this is a tough one. 454 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: This gonna be kind of measure of the pit, the Patrick, 455 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots resilience. Uh, you drop the game to Buffalo. 456 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: It's a disappointing loss. So now you feel like you 457 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: gave one away that you should have gotten. You take 458 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: on a Baltimore team that is fighting for their lives. 459 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: The thing about the Baltimore Ravens, I just never know 460 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: which person is going to show up, and because of that, 461 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Patriots. I think they did the 462 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: more mature team, did a more consistent team obviously, as 463 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: a record indicates, and I still have questions about the 464 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens defense. So to me, I think Josh mcgames 465 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: and Drake may class success in the passing game and 466 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: that allows Tregaan Henderson deliver a big player to win 467 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: the run. 468 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: I do think New England is the better team, but 469 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: I think Baltimore, coming off of last week, maybe a 470 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: little bit of a get right game, but defensively had 471 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: a really good showing a shutout Joe Burrow and Cincinnati Bengals. 472 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: One of the worst games Burrows played by his own admission, 473 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: So I think they just every time you try and 474 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: count this type of a team out that's got so 475 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: much history. 476 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: These guys have. 477 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: Been there, done that, it's still all a little new 478 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: for New England. I actually think this ends up being 479 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: a really really close game, and maybe a little more 480 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: low scoring than you might think. So looking forward to 481 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: that one huge, huge game with the Ravens and the Patriots. 482 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Last one Philip Rivers two point. 483 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: Zero here against the San Francisco forty nine ers. 484 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Buck look, man, he had the team positioned to do it. 485 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: And everything that we talked about that was not related 486 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: to the passing game was how the coast we were 487 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: to stay in the game the first half DJ they 488 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: squatted on the ball, I mean, they were a half 489 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: court basketball team, just making the Seahawks play at their tempo. 490 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers' ability to get the team in the right 491 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: play it was a bunch of what you said. It 492 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: was gonna be a bunch of swings and screens and 493 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: f angles and checkdowns and those things. It'd be a 494 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: little more difficult now that the Niners have seen maybe 495 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: his limitations on tape. I think this gonna be tough 496 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: sledding for the Indianapolis Coats. 497 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: When I was growing up buck we didn't have we 498 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: had hardescape in the backyard, so we didn't have a 499 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: yard a backyard so to speak. 500 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: It was just all hard and. 501 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Then we had a little baby lawn in the front 502 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: so we play. 503 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Football there as kids. But it was tight. 504 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: It was tight, and that's what the Indianapolis Colts are there, 505 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: they're playing. It was a three six six coach with 506 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: and alcoholm they're playing in my front yard there. It's 507 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: just a little postage stamp. We're not going to be 508 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: able to get the ball down the field. You know, 509 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: you want to take your chances and go out in 510 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: the cul de sac in the street. You go ahead, 511 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: but you go down that's gonna skin, that's gonna leave 512 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: a mark, uh there. You know if you want to 513 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: do that is not only half court basketball, man. 514 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: It's not only that. Is playing with that little parcela 515 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: in with a nerf ball. Oh yeah, so you know 516 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: I have nerf balls. Don't flop for that's what we're doing. 517 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: So we're trying to push you down to the field. But 518 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: that thing is not going farther than in the fifteen yards, 519 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: like yeah. I mean, that's what we're doing. And we 520 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: can dress it up as many ways as we can. 521 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: But man, you're playing in a fifteen yard box. How 522 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: long can they sustain it? Here's my here's my question, though. 523 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: The ultimate move would be you kind of you put 524 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: that out there against Seattle on that defense. You know 525 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: the challenge is there, and now all you've done is 526 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: you're just gonna pull them up and then Philip can 527 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: just lob some hanger and aids over the top. Just 528 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: just a couple a couple of quick go balls the 529 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: way I used to throw a go ball. Buck and 530 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: other quarterbacks were in the gun taking a full five. 531 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: I was a quick three. I'm gonna get that thing 532 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: up early and as high as I can. 533 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know this, and we saw Peyton do this. 534 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: It is different playing indoors. I'm being out quick this 535 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: and that. People gonna look at that game and they're 536 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Seattle. But what we don't know on TV, 537 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: we don't know the win conditions. We don't know what 538 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: the weather is fully like in terms of the challenges. 539 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: You're right, he might be able to push it more 540 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: down the field at home, just because of those cozy confines. 541 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: So now let's just we just stretch your little parcel 542 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: in out a little bit. We'll put we'll put the 543 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: tail behind the nerf ball, so we give it a little, 544 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: a little juice. We put it like a little tail 545 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: so we can fly a little. That's a great sound. 546 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, this is a great slate of games. Man. 547 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I cannot wait looking forward to it. 548 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: Uh, if we don't have a chance, So this will 549 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: be the last time I'll be on I believe, before 550 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: we get to Christmas and the holidays are here. So 551 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: I just want to wish chrismas happy holidays everybody out there. 552 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: Buck in my presidence is I get to do this 553 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: show with you, enjoy it and wish you in yours 554 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: all the best, my friend. 555 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Look, man, it's so much fun. I love the holidays. 556 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: I love doing this stuff with you, and I love 557 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: our people there watch and tune in. So more fun 558 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: to come in twenty twenty six. All right, we appreciate you. 559 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here, find with the 560 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: sticks