1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: What is your favorite logo three that you hit like 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: in a big game. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Okay, this is funny. I'll tell you this at Rutgers 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: which used to be called the Rack but it's now 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Jersey Mike Arena. I told our people before the game, 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, if I make one from here, like, 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: can you guys tweet like our media people, I'm like, 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: can you tweet the Jersey Mikes and be like, hey, 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: like can she get free subs? Like for a year, 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: And I made one, but they wouldn't do it. So 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: that's like my favorite logo. Like I hit one from 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Jersey Mike's logo on Rutgers floor. But obviously the Tiger 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Hawk and Carver and that thing is huge, like so 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: it's like pretty easy to shoot on because it extends 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: so far. So those two Okay, but yeah, I think 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: Jersey Mikes should give me like an nil deal for 17 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: making it. 18 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: At Jersey Mikes, if you're listening to. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Do some free subs, let's go trying to get some 20 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: free subs or COLLEGEUS had a budget. 21 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: Thank you exactly. 22 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sometimes I Hoop. I'm your host, Hayley Jones. 23 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Quick humble brag Here I was number one player twenty 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: nineteen national champ most house standy players, thinal a four 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: preseason first Team All American. 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: But this is not about me. 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: I'm here with miss triple double raining Big Ten Player 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: of the Year as a sophomore, three time gold medalist, 29 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: first team All American, I need a breath here two 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: thousand plus points scores shaking things up this year and 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: holds the Big Ten record for most career triple doubles 32 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: men's or women's basketball. Iowa Hawkeye very own the one 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: and only Caitlin Clark. Thank you for having on the pond. 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. I'm honored. 35 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: That was quite the intro. That was. 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: You're one of the best, though you could have kept 37 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: going with your own list. 38 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Come on, ma'am, don't start with me, but I mean, okay, 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: let's hop right into it. You have been wrecking havoc 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. I know that scouts are just like, 41 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: what what do we do? 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Other team? They're just watching film, like how do we 43 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: stop you? 44 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Averaging thirty one points in these last four games, including 45 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: two big wins over. 46 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State and Maryland. 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: So what's his own big Like, how's the team been 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: how have you been. What's the mindset been like? 49 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Honestly, like, we had a really hard beginning of the year, 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: had some really good teams. We played Yukon NC State 51 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: at home, who we lost to, went to k State, 52 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: and you know, any road games really hard. So I 53 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: give a lot of credit to our coaches because I think, 54 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: you know, we were tested early on, and we know 55 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: how tough the Big Ten is, and you want to 56 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: be playing your best bass right now, and I really 57 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: think we are. 58 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: We're hot. 59 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: Like you said, we won eight straight and two of 60 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: those against really really good teams. Beat Michigan at Michigan 61 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: and beat me around on our home court, want at 62 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: Ohio State. But yeah, I think the Big Ten is 63 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: one of the best conferences in the country, and you 64 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: really challenged every single night. But yeah, I mean I 65 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: love it. It's kind of weird now because I'm so 66 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: used to the girls who I'm going up against, I'm 67 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: used to the coaches I'm going up against. But I 68 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: think it almost kind of helps you in a way. 69 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel the same, and you 70 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: kind of know what works what doesn't work, But yeah, 71 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: you need to be playing your best basketball right now. 72 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: I feel like we are and the Big Ten Conference 73 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: definitely made the end of end of our conference schedule 74 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: super super hard. So it's gonna be a fun finish 75 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: for sure. 76 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: No, I feel that it's weird being the Vets in 77 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: the league. 78 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I feel like I know how every 79 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: system works where the gaps are. And then the Pack 80 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: did the same thing with us all of a sudden Arizona, Utah, Colorad. 81 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is the reasoning to this? But 82 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: it's fine, welcome the challenge. 83 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I mean I love it and it's good 84 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: for the game. Like I think people were tuning in 85 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: and when you have that competition and when people can 86 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: follow it at the end, you don't really know who's 87 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: going to be the league champion until the last game. 88 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: I think that's fun too. That's that gets the fans 89 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: excited and we know like that last year, that's what 90 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: it came down to it for us. You know, we 91 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 2: had one game versus Michigan at home to win the 92 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Big Ten regular season title, and we did. It was 93 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: a sold out crowd. It was super fun. I was 94 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: on ESPN, so Indiana's our last game at home. It's 95 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: already sold out. 96 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh that'll be good. 97 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, February twenty six, So no, it'll be fun. That's 98 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: what it should be. So I'm excited. 99 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, living for the big games, especially having a sold 100 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: out crowd. There's literally nothing like it. And I bet 101 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: playing in your home gym is just crazy. I remember 102 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: watching that Michigan game. But Indiana is going to be packed, 103 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be. 104 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's gonna be crazy. I can't believe 105 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: it's already sold out. And like so many people like 106 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: text me for tickets. I'm like, I can't help you, 107 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Like I spend the fifteen bucks. Heard Tiketmaster, Ticketmaster, stub Hub, 108 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: like please. I like looked on Ticketmaster and they're like 109 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: already going for like over three hundred dollars. I was like, 110 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, are you serious. Yeah, it's insane. 111 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeo three hundred. It's crazy. 112 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: I know what it sounds. It's awesome too, So it's 113 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: cool to see, you know. And we don't have professional 114 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: sports teams in Iowa, so like, oh, they get all 115 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: the fans. Yeah, this is like professional sports for you know, 116 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: our state. 117 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sick. 118 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like the strength of women's college 119 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: basketball nationwide, but also conference conference has just gotten better 120 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: and better year in and year route, and you know, I 121 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like it gets more intense towards the end of 122 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: that conference play in conference tournament because there's the automatic 123 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: bid in your conference tournament, and then also you're trying 124 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: to get the better seating as you get into that. 125 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: But what players have you seen within the Big Ten? 126 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Are outside of the Big Ten really stepping into their 127 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: own make name for themselves this season, because I feel 128 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of girls who may have 129 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: been under the radar and then all of a sudden, 130 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: it's just like. 131 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: Oh, thirty big game, fifty foe game. I'm like, who 132 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: are you? People like, where are you coming from? It's 133 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: been crazy. 134 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 135 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: No, I think there's a lot in the Big Ten. 136 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: I think you can start with Mackenzie Holmes at Indiana 137 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: Post Player. That's probably one of the best posts in 138 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: the country. Obviously, I'm going to brag on my post 139 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. Monica Sinano, I think she's one of 140 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: the best, too, But I think Mackenzie Holmes and what 141 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: she's done for that team. Obviously, Grace Berger, who is 142 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: their point guard, goes out early in the season with 143 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: an injury, but they still don't lose a game. She's 144 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: back now, but obviously Indiana number two in the country now. 145 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: I think Taylor Mike salat Ohio State has been tremendous 146 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: as well. Obviously, they started off the season hot. Kind 147 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: of hit a little bump in the road here, but 148 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: as you know, that kind of happens to every team 149 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: here and there. You know, you have your ups and downs. 150 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: I think she's been really good, man. I'm just trying 151 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: to think Leah Brown at Michigan. I think it's been 152 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: really really good, fun to watch. Michigan's always a really 153 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: hard team to play. Diamond Miller as she was one 154 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: of my teammates, obviously, I think she's probably teamate with 155 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: you too. Basically impossible to guard so long perfect WNBA 156 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: body will be an insane WNBA player, one of the 157 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: most athletic players in our league. Super fun to watch, 158 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: not very fun to go up against because she's so skilled. 159 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: But I mean, there's so many good players, and that's 160 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: what makes it so fun because you know you're going 161 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: to have those matchups every single night. 162 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, just the talent level across the Big Ten 163 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: ACC every single Power five conference, but mid majors, it's 164 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: just heightened every year that we've been playing. And I 165 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: think it's just like across the AAU circuit, there's so 166 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: much talent. Like I open Instagram, whatever, but I'll go 167 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: to a tournament. I see just crazy hoopers out there. 168 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: And they may not get very much recognitioned in high school, 169 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: but once they make it to the college stage, like 170 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: they find the right program, they find the right fit, 171 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: the players, the culture, whatever may be, and they're really 172 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: able to come into their own. But just the landscape 173 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: of college basketball and the amount of upsets that has 174 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: happened this year, and people think that last year's tournament 175 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: was wild, I think this year is going to be 176 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: in same. 177 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: It's going to be crazy. And we were on the 178 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: losing side of that last year. You know, we had 179 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: upset in the second round to create in a very 180 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: very skilled team and a hard team to match up with. 181 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: They went on to upset Iowa State two and then 182 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: eventually met up with South Carolina, who would be the 183 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: eventual champion. So that was a tall task for them, 184 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: but no a very skilled team and I think that's 185 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: why it's the greatest postseason in all of sports is 186 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: because there are those upsets. You know, you don't get 187 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 2: multiple chances to win the game. You have one chance 188 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: one night. I think the pain of us losing last 189 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: year is really kind of driven our team. I'm in 190 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: a way, I don't think we really had that fire 191 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: last year, but this year, you know, you kind of 192 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 2: have that pain and experience of you know, not getting 193 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: where you wanted to go kind of thing. But like 194 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 2: you said, like I think that's exciting for women's basketball. 195 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: We haven't always had those upsets in March Madness. It 196 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: hasn't always been like that, so you know, I love it. 197 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: And obviously when you get that home court advantage if 198 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: you're a top four seed, that certainly helps too. So 199 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty fun. And obviously you can sell 200 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: out your arena. That's great for women's basketball too. 201 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier made a little known about the Big 202 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: Ten being so deep, and we've had this little debate 203 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: on the pod recently as the. 204 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Best conference in the country. 205 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: So I would love to say that I love Rotch 206 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: for the SEC or Rochester for the Pac twelve. I'm 207 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: gonna argue the Big Ten. Of course, I have to 208 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: I don't, okay, I think we hear it. We have 209 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: a team that's number two, we have a team that's 210 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: number five. We got a team of number eight. I 211 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: believe we got a team that sumber twelve. And then 212 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: Ohio State's in there somewhere too. I'm missing them. I'm 213 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: missing there might be five in the top twenty five, 214 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: maybe even six. 215 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: I feel like the Big ten in recent years has 216 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: been on the rise. Like, Okay, in the past it 217 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: has really been like PAC twelve, acc Big twelve sec 218 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: and then it's kind of like ah, Big ten whatever, right, 219 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: But in recent years y'all have really come along. However, 220 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: with that understanding, know that you guys are coming along. 221 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I feel like the PAC twelve has just been a pillar. 222 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, you still got five in the twenty five. 223 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: We got teams on the bubble. Upsets happening left and right. 224 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately one just happened to us. 225 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: But I know the pain. It happens to the best 226 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: of us. 227 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: It happens, it happens. I see the Big ten argument, 228 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: But the Pack I got it. I'm a Pack twelve. 229 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast girly at heart. 230 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but like you said, I 231 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: do think the Big ten has gotten a lot better. 232 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that talent level has always been you know, 233 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: there hasn't always been like five or six teams that 234 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: have always been ranked. It hasn't always been like that. 235 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: There's maybe been one or two. Maryland's always been really 236 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: really good and occasionally, you know, I always been pretty 237 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: good Sweet sixteen Elite eights, But there always hasn't been like, 238 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, really really good teams consistently in the top 239 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: twenty five. Maybe here and there, but not to the 240 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: level that it's at right now. And I think even 241 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: the teams that aren't ranked, you know, we went to 242 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: Michigan State, a team that was what three and five 243 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: in conference, and we go to overtime. You know, there's 244 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: those teams that aren't even ranked that can really challenge 245 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: you too because they have, you know, really good players. 246 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, the PAC twelve is really good too. 247 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: You know, I visited some PAC twelves. 248 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh thank you man, thank you ma'am. 249 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: So I'll give you that ACC is good, you know. 250 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: I mean, no matter what conference you're in, you can 251 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: argue whatever you want. But I think like across the board, 252 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: the talent level is just so much better, you know, 253 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: and that's really good. 254 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: I think it's also just like the talent level being dispersed. 255 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Like we kind of mentioned earlier, it used to go 256 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: to the same programs a year in and year out, and 257 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: then a lot of that talent ends up sitting on 258 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: the bench or just not ever getting the opportunity. And 259 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: so it's so cool to be a part of that 260 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: new kind of wave of women's basketball, which I feel 261 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: like is such a big part of why it's growing 262 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: so much because there's no clear winner every year when 263 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: you go into the tournament. It's not like, oh, this 264 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: was going to be in the final four, this is 265 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: going to be a national championship. It's like it could 266 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: be like twenty teams right now in the final four. 267 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: There's really no guessing who it's going to be. So 268 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: it's so exciting. 269 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: I totally agree, and I think that's what's going to 270 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: draw more people to their game is just you know, 271 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: the uncertainty almost of you know, knowing who's gonna win 272 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: March madness, who's gonna win the national championship, who's going 273 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: to be in the final four. But yeah, like you know, 274 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: the au circuit has definitely helped that, you know, coming 275 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: up especially, we can argue e I b L is 276 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: the best, Nike eu IBL is the best. You know, 277 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: I grew up playing for All Iowa Attacks since like 278 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: sixth grade, so you know, I was on that circuit 279 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: for a while. And you're just surrounded by so many 280 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: good players, whether it's on your own team or you're 281 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: playing some of the best in the country. You know, 282 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: everybody goes to Chicago for Nike Nationals. It's like literally 283 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: one of the most fun weeks of summer that I 284 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: can remember. But yeah, I think that's certainly helped the 285 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: talent level get even better, because I don't think it's 286 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: always been that way, So you know, that's I think 287 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: that's certainly helped a lot too. 288 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: For sure. 289 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of AAU and Iowa Attack taking it 290 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: back to the roots here, when did basketball become. 291 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: Real for you? 292 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Like when were you like I want to play on 293 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: an EIBL team, I want to do this and that. 294 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I want to play college basketball. I want to be 295 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: one of the best. Like why basketball? What made it 296 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: it for you? 297 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I actually grew up like playing with the 298 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: boys in soccer and basketball and I was just super 299 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: super competitive kid from a very very young age. So 300 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: like my parents knew that, and they kind of just 301 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: tossed me in like whatever sport I could because I 302 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: needed to get my energy out. But I grew up 303 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: playing with the boys, and I give that a lot 304 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: of credit for, you know, the player I am today, 305 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: just because I think it helped me, you know, kind 306 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: of develop and be a little tougher. You know, you 307 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: kind of have to develop skills at a younger age, 308 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: ball handling, got to be a good shooter, things like that. 309 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: But I knew I loved basketball when I was pretty young, 310 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: and then probably by like eighth grade, I knew like, okay, 311 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: like this can probably like be my future, Like I 312 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: can go to college, Like I want to be a pro. 313 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. And I really took 314 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: it seriously. I wanted to get better at it. Obviously. 315 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: I played USA basketball three separate times, and I think that, 316 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, that's always such a fun experience. You get 317 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: to be surrounded by some of the best players in 318 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: our country at your age group, and you get to 319 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: compete for your home country and try to win a 320 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: gold medal. So luckily all three times I've won a 321 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: gold medal. The second time was way too close. We 322 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: almost lost and probably should have lost. But no, I 323 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: think definitely super competitive kid from a young age and 324 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: then like I honestly played soccer until high school and 325 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: then I gave it up and kind of knew basketball 326 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: was my future for sure. 327 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: I too love soccer. Soccer is like it's such such 328 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: an outlet for me now. 329 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: Like soccer is really good, right, aren't they? 330 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: The games are so fun to go. 331 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's awesome. I was like the biggest North 332 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: Carolina women's soccer fan of all time growing up. I 333 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: loved it. I women's soccer like I loved it. I 334 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: always had it on I still do, you know. I 335 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: try to have it on the World Cup. Like I 336 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 2: was so dialed into that too, Like. 337 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did everything I was. I was a gymnastics 338 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: girl until I got to Oh my gosh, and then 339 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I was just like that's created from bar to bar. 340 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: There was no jumping require. 341 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,479 Speaker 2: So I see, did the gymnasts here do like weightlifting 342 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: and stuff? And I'm like, wow, yeah, crazy the core 343 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: workouts that they do, Oh my gosh, they're like pumping 344 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: out like all these like ab workouts like push ups 345 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: are nothing for them, like it's insane. And I love 346 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: watching gymnastics, especially in the Olympics, like I love it. 347 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: I did try tennis too, Like I wish I could 348 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: be a tennis player. 349 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: I do too. 350 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: It would be my dream, honestly. Like Serena Williams is 351 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: just like the goat. She's like my favorite athlete of 352 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: all time across the board, no matter what sport it is, 353 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: just because you know, she's beast, she's mom, she plays tennis, nikon, 354 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: she's all these amazing businesses she's got, like her own 355 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: jewelry company. Like she just does it all. It's impressive. 356 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't get how she has the time to do 357 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: it all, and she just looks so effortless. 358 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: She really does. She's queen. 359 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: She's queen, she's clean. 360 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned a little bit about USC basketball experience, and 361 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: previously we had Jordan and talked about getting caught in 362 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: the elevator, So I need to hear what went down 363 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: in the elevator from your perspective. 364 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's when we were in Argentina. Is 365 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: that what she said? Yes, that was my first time 366 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: playing USA basketball and we were in like everything like 367 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: in Argentina was just a lot smaller, Like the beds 368 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: were small, the elevators were smaller, like the drinking glasses 369 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: were smaller. And I remember like we got an elevator, 370 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure there was like a sign like 371 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: that said like only so many people, and we were like, 372 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: I want to say it was like after one of 373 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: our first games and we were like all tired and 374 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: wanted to get upstairs. We're like, all right, just jam 375 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: the elevator like nothing's gonna happen, Like are you kidding me? 376 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: Like it would never happen. So we all get on 377 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like it's just like stuck. 378 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: And I just remember like first of all, we're all 379 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: crammed in there, so I'm like it's not like there's 380 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: two people in there and we're stuck and you can 381 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: like spread out like sit down, like no, like we're 382 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: a wall to wall, shoulder to shoulder. Like it was terrible. 383 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: And then I remember like they eventually got the elevator's 384 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: doors open, and like we could only like get through 385 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: like a little like crack almost, so we had to 386 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: like duck and like climb out. It was insane. And 387 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: I was traumatized. And I know for fact we never 388 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: crammed a bunch of people in the elevator on that trip. 389 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: Again, never again. 390 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: Yes, that was a traumatizing experience. So now whenever like 391 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: my team here in Iowa wants to like put a 392 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: ton of people in the like, no, we're not doing it, 393 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: We're not doing it. 394 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: I've had my time. 395 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: No. 396 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's hilarious. 397 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: So kind of talking more about a you and just 398 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: coming up with basketball, when did you start getting your 399 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: recruited and when was like where did you take your visits? 400 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: What was your process like during recruit makes? I know 401 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: mine it was long, and I did not like it. 402 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: It was way too. 403 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Long, so long, honestly, Like started getting recruited really really young, 404 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: probably like seventh eighth grade, probably around the same for 405 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: you too. But when I was like that age, my 406 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: parents were like, nah, like you don't need to talk 407 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: to coaches, like you're in seventh grade, Like you should 408 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: just enjoy your friends like you're in middle school. Like 409 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: and I'm super grateful for that. Like no seventh grader 410 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: or in eighth grader should be talking to college coaches 411 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: or really you know, thinking about that part of their 412 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: life just because it's so far away and you're not 413 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: really I don't know much. I don't want to say 414 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: mature enough to make that decision, but really, like it 415 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: takes a lot of thought, Like it's a big decision. 416 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: It's where you're gonna spend the next four years of 417 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: your life, so you know. And then I kind of 418 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: got into high school and started taking a little we're 419 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: seriously coaches would come watch me, come watch me work out, 420 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: come to my games, started talking to coaches, took quite 421 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: a few visits, and eventually, like my top three were Iowa, 422 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 2: Iowa State, and Notre Dame, mostly because like I love 423 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: the schools, but at the same time, like I knew 424 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to be close to my family. You know, 425 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm a big family person. The University of Io was 426 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: only like two hours from where I live, so that's 427 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: a huge reason why I came here. But obviously, you 428 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: know Coach Blooter, she's one of the best coaches of 429 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: all time, the winning his coach in Big ten history 430 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: will be in the Hall of Fame. Her and your 431 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: coach are very close, the best. They are besties. They 432 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: are besties. But no, and I think you know, we 433 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: had Kathleen Doyle who was graduating and it just got 434 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: drafted into the WNBA, so like we needed to fill 435 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: the point guard spot. And that's kind of what always 436 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: coach Butter kind of sold to me. And I really 437 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: liked that. I wanted to go somewhere I could make 438 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: an impact. Pretty early, I didn't really want to sit 439 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: on the bench, and you know, obviously I was going 440 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: to have to earn that, but that's kind of what 441 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: she sold to me. And my visits here, I always 442 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: love the girls, I love the town, I love the coaches. 443 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: So it kind of just seemed like every then kind 444 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: of fell into place and like this is where I 445 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: should be. And you know, now that I'm here, I 446 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: know I definitely made the right decision and I've loved 447 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: every second. But like you said, recruiting is so long 448 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: and it's exhausting, and I kind of feel bad for 449 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: kids in high school because I would never kind of 450 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: want to go back to doing that again because it 451 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: was just so terrible. 452 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: For sure, the recruiting process is so long. It is 453 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: like I always felt so bad calling to say no. 454 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Like I know it's a business, but I'm also like 455 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: I am so sorry, like you spend so much time 456 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: on me and I'm just not coming. 457 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: But like, ugh, I know, I feel like you develop 458 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: relationships with those coaches and like you do. You know, 459 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: it's kind of a weird part of your life. You're like, oh, 460 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: like I'm never going to talk to you again, thanks 461 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: for talking to me the past three years exactly. And 462 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: it's so weird. 463 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: But it's like you want it to go well because 464 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: you don't know if they're going to leave, if they're 465 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: going to go to a different school. 466 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: You could end up needing a job, like who. 467 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Knows, So you want it to be you want it 468 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: to be a nice relationship. 469 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: It's an odd thing to strike a weird balance. 470 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: It is weird. And I think something else, like through 471 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: the recruiting process that I always thought was important is 472 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: like you never kind of want to decide too early. 473 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: I think, especially now, like coaching spots change all the time. 474 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot like a ton of the schools 475 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: I got recruited by the head coach isn't even there anymore, 476 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: which is like so crazy to think about. But I'm happy, 477 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: like I'm here at the University of Iowa. I've loved 478 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: every single second, it's been so fun and I think 479 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: we can do some special stuff. So it's been good. 480 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: Coach Blutering, coach many beer. They stick it around so strong. 481 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: There's no doubt in that at all. Those two are solidified. 482 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not going. 483 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: But you know, kind of thinking back to your freshman year, 484 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: Iowa come out hot start, right, Were there any nerves 485 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: coming in your freshman year, big expectations, things. 486 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: You wanted to do. 487 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: What was the energy like moving into your first few 488 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: games coming out so hot. 489 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: Honestly, that feels like so long ago. It's so weird. 490 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can say the same thing, but honestly 491 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: it was weird because it was COVID, so it was 492 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: like I would go and play in front of like 493 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: fifty people, So I like really didn't feel any like 494 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: pressure or like anything like that. And obviously, you know, 495 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: people here in the state knew who I was even 496 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: before I got here, So like, I think there was 497 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: kind of those expectations, but not really the expectations on 498 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: our team as much. Like I remember my freshman year, 499 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: we weren't even projected to make the tournament, and then 500 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: we would go on to make the sweet sixteen. So 501 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, we were kind of always 502 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: the people that you know, had o a chip on 503 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: our shoulder, which is completely the opposite now, like we're 504 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: the ones with the target on our back, we're the 505 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: ones people want to be. So it's kind of weird. 506 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: It's like a completely different dynamic than when I first 507 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: got here. But yeah, I mean obviously that feels like 508 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: sorry ago, But I never like was scared of anything, 509 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: and I think that was like kind of the thing 510 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: that helped me. Like I had a lot of confidence 511 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: in myself. The coaches had a lot of confidence in me. 512 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: Like I've started since day one at the point guard 513 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: spot and that's not really something that happens a lot. 514 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: And yeah, that is kind of a lot of pressure 515 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: for a freshman to be the point guard. You know, 516 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: the point guard, you're kind of the extension of the 517 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: coach on the court. You got to know what's going on, 518 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: you got to know the plays, you got to tell 519 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: people where to go. Oh so, but yeah, it was 520 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: weird because it was COVID, so like I never really 521 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: played in front of too many people, so there wasn't 522 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: like all the loud noise I had to deal with 523 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: screaming fans, the screaming other team fans. So like last 524 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: year when I played in front of a crowd for 525 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: the first time, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is awesome. 526 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Like I feel like it helps me even more, Like 527 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, all these people are screaming 528 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: for us, like this is great. 529 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: The COVID experience was like it's very hard to describe 530 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: because you're really playing because I know in the pack 531 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: it was like only your family got tickets. 532 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, this is sick playing in 533 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: the cul de sc It's whatever. 534 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, like you get to 535 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: the tournament your next year and it's like, holy crap, 536 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: like why are there ten thousand people here? 537 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: What is going on? 538 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: But it's so much fun because you kind of had 539 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: that year to get acclimated to college basketball in a way. 540 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: But the COVID here was something crazy. I can't even 541 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 3: describe it to people whenever they asked about it. 542 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Like I kind of came in at like a good time. 543 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: I kind of got like a free year to get 544 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: used to college basketball because technically I still have a 545 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: COVID year too, Like that was basically a free year. 546 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: For me to like play and I can still take 547 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: another year on top of that. So I think it 548 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: did help me kind of get used to college basketball 549 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: without like all the fans, all the noise, all the pressure. 550 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: Before like the next year, you know, it really got 551 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: it got loud. The attention on our team only increased. 552 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was actually kind of nice 553 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: now that I think about. 554 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: It for sure. And I mean, speaking of your freshman year, 555 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: was there a game that was just tough? You look 556 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: back on it. 557 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: You look at the film and you're like, that's not 558 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: me that or like a film whose story you gotta 559 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: give me something. Yeah. 560 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: No, I vividly remember we went. It was my first 561 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: I think it was my first game ever on like 562 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: national TV. We played on the Big Ten network and 563 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: it was at Northwestern, and I think I had like 564 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: eight points. It was oh no, oh my gosh, I 565 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: played so bad. It was terrible. I'm still getting subbed out. Yeah. 566 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: At Northwestern, Veronica Burton obviously one of the best players 567 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 2: the leagues had in a really long time, and they 568 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: played like a really weird zone like defense, like she 569 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: basically would run around and create chaos get all these steals. 570 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: It was crazy, but like I couldn't make anything. It 571 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: was terrible, Like nobody was there and I kept getting 572 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: subbed out, and I remember like I would just go 573 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: sit like I would sit by myself because all the 574 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: seats were like spread out, like so I'm just sitting 575 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: like in the corner by myself, and I'm like, oh 576 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: my gosh, And like nobody could go to that game 577 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: because some people had different rules, so there was like 578 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: no people there at all. I'm like, I just know 579 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: my family's watching it on TV and they're like, what 580 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: is up with her tonight? But no, like that's like 581 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: I think that might be the only game in my 582 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: career I haven't scored over ten points. So wow, it's 583 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: like I vividly remember like that was like the worst 584 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: game of my career. And you know, like I was 585 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: a freshman, it was kind of destined to happen at 586 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: some point, but like that one kind of sticks with 587 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: me more than anything. 588 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: No, I feel like everybody has that game. 589 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: I know, and I know that Tara specifically, she's a 590 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: film girl, so like, oh yeah, we be locked in. 591 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: We'd be in the film room for an hour. We' 592 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: finna watch like okay, Hayley, what did you think about this? 593 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: Why did you do that? Did you see this? Did it? 594 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, ma'am, I'm so sorry. 595 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: I will do better, No, coach, it was the same way. 596 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: But like film never lies, so like I think it's 597 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: one of the best things you can do, is like 598 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: watch film and really learn. And we watched with our 599 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: position coaches more than as a team. We obviously we 600 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: watch a ton of film like of other teams together, 601 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: but not really like breakdown of yourself. But you know, 602 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: I love watching film, and honestly, I like I'll watch 603 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: film of our practices even just because like that doesn't 604 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: lie either, Like you can see the way you're moving 605 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: without the ball, how you're moving on defense, things like that. 606 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean we're we love film too, trust me, 607 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: maybe too much film At some point it's just a 608 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: thank Can we just play the game for sure. 609 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Especially on the road film after every I'm like, oh gosh, 610 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: your freshman year was one for the books. Did you 611 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: come in knowing that you were going to dominate? 612 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Like that were what was your meant to like going 613 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: into your freshman year? 614 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: Not that that's for sure. I did not think I 615 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: would be National Freshman of the Year obviously me and 616 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: paid to share the awards, so a huge honor and 617 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: a really big deal. And but like that was never 618 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: something I was like, Oh, starting the year, I'm like 619 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: got to be National Freshman of the Year. I just 620 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: gotta do it. Like that wasn't on my mind, like 621 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: it's gotta happen. Yeah, honestly, like never would have thought 622 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: of that. But I remember when Coach told me we 623 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: were in the bubble in San Antonio and she was like, Hey, 624 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: can you just like stop by my room really quick? 625 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: Like I just I just want to show you something. 626 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe she like wants to show 627 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: me a clip of film or like something that like 628 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: really quick, or like sometimes she'll like tell me like 629 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: something about the Scotty Report whatever. And like I get 630 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: in there and like all the coaches are just sitting 631 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: there and I'm like this is so weird, Like what 632 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: is happening? And like Coach Butter gets like a sweet 633 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: and everything, and they're all just like sitting there like Hi, 634 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: Like what when I do? I'm like, am I in trouble? 635 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: Like something bad happened? And they're like we just want 636 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: to tell you, like your National Freshman of the Year 637 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, like that's so cool, 638 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: and they all got pumped. But yeah, like I vividly 639 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: remember them telling that to me when we were in 640 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: San Antonio about the Bubble. So that was a cool 641 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: moment too, And obviously like that's really good for our 642 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: program too, because you know, when we have that on us, 643 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: it shines on our whole program, and that's that's really good. 644 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely a cool moment, but definitely not something 645 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: I was like, ah, gotta happen. 646 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you like needed our failure, Like you're like, oh, 647 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Freshman year at the Bubble, you guys made noise, 648 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: right sweet six scene is oh yeah, Sweet sixteen is tough, 649 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so, I mean you do that, then you 650 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: carry that momentum sophomore year. You crush it thousand points, 651 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: back to back, thirty point triple dubs and then that 652 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: great run that you had. So you kind of talked 653 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: about it a little bit as a team your mindset, 654 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: but what did you do over the summer to get 655 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: ready to have the season that you're having this year? 656 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of different for me, like I 657 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: wasn't really used to like having a summer to like 658 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: actually like really work on my game because usually like 659 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: I'm away like playing USA basketball or doing something like that, 660 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: or like it was COVID my freshman year coming in, 661 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: so it was like kind of different, Like you had 662 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of rules you had to follow things like that. 663 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: But like, I think the biggest thing for me that 664 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: like I really focused on was like I wanted to 665 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: get stronger. Like I think that kind of hindered me 666 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: at points last years, just like people were physical with me. 667 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: That's like that was probably like the number one thing 668 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: on the Scotting report was like be physical with her, 669 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: like get up in her grill, hold her jersey, tug 670 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: on her arms, and like that's just not something the 671 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: ref's going to call every time just because they can't. 672 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: So I think it's like something I just accepted, Like 673 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to get stronger, you know, I was just 674 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: going to accept that people were going to do that 675 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: to me, And so I took the weight room super seriously. 676 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: And obviously the consistency of being here all summer and 677 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: being able to be in there as much as I 678 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: was was huge for myself and I think that's really 679 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: like showed throughout you know, conference play especially, but obviously 680 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: earlier in the year too. Is you know, I feel 681 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: like I'm staying on my feet more when I'm finishing 682 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: around the rim, I'm able to absorb a lot more 683 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: contact things like that, So I think it's definitely paid off. 684 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: But that I would say that's like the number one 685 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: thing that I really wanted to work on, especially because 686 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: I was able to be here all summer. You know, 687 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: you know how it goes when you're away with you say, Basshall, 688 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: It's not like you're in the weave refronting. You just 689 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: don't do that. 690 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, do that. 691 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: You don't have set aside time to go and weights 692 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: with each other. You just don't you have time. We're 693 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: to have two a day practices, but you're not lift 694 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: each other. 695 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah you got time for lifts, run film practice, 696 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: you got time for it all in the summer. 697 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 698 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 699 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: I had root awaken my freshman year. I came in 700 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: and I had to guard DJNA firstday of practice. 701 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm sure that was really fun. 702 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: I tried to I wasn't even trying to take a charge, 703 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: and I flew with feet, I'm like, what do I 704 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: expected to do? But like it does make a difference, 705 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: especially driving in the lane, like getting knocked by especially 706 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: in the big ten you have some big girls in there, 707 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: like you got to finish that contact. 708 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: So it's it's definitely big. 709 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: But just being a tall guard, like yourself, what is 710 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: the best part of being a tall guard and what 711 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: is the worst part? Because for me, I hate when 712 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: little guards be up in my grill, pick me up, 713 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: full court, get off me. But like I'm also like, oh, 714 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: once I get down there, passed away, go post up, 715 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: like there's girls and cons. 716 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me is almost 717 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: like you know, I'm I'm six foot and I'm a 718 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: point guard. Like I think it makes it easier for 719 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: me to pass the ball, Like I can just see 720 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: a lot of different angles that probably a lot of 721 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: traditional shorter point guards can't really see. And that's why 722 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: I think I'm able to throw a lot of passes 723 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: that you know, maybe other people won't throw, just because 724 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: you know, I have a good two or three inches 725 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: more than the traditional point guard. And I think that 726 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: also kind of goes along with like I'm able to 727 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: get my shot off in a lot of different ways, 728 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: just because you know, I'm taller. So it's like the 729 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: other team kind of has to pick. Are you going 730 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: to pick a taller, like a little slower defender to 731 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: put on me? You're gonna go with somebody shorter, faster? 732 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes people would try like the long athletic grouse. 733 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: So I've certainly seen it all, but I would agree 734 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: I think getting picked up full court that's never fun. 735 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: You never want to be guarded ninety four feet, especially 736 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: when they can move their feet well and keep you 737 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: in front. That's never too fun as a point guard. 738 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: No, I got you. 739 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of mentioned it, like I feel 740 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: like you're such a great facilitator and people always like, oh, 741 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, you got your local three, you got this, 742 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: and that they're list goes on. But like the way 743 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: that you're able to facilitate the floor, and it's nice 744 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: having somebody like Monica down there obviously, but like you 745 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: still got your shooters on the corners, coming off screens, 746 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: doing all this. What really clicked for you this year 747 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to your vision on the court, getting 748 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: teammates involved. 749 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: Is it like the game slowing down for you? 750 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Was it in the film room, like we talked about 751 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: what we're kind of those things that really been clicking 752 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: for you this season. 753 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like understanding when and when not to 754 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: make a pass, I think has been a huge thing 755 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: for me. And obviously eliminating my turnovers was also a focus, 756 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: just because they were kind of high in my first 757 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: two years here. And as you know, like I'm a 758 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: risky player, Like that's just how I play. You know, 759 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to make some flashy plays or 760 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to make passes that maybe are 761 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: a little risky, So I think, but I think understanding 762 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: when you need that and when you don't, I think 763 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: that's kind of the game management kind of thing. But yeah, 764 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: I think our transitional offense definitely allows me to be 765 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: a facilitator. You know, we want to push the ball 766 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: as much as we can in transition, like that's our 767 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: best offense. We're better in transition. We are in the 768 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: quarter court and that's kind of just been our bread 769 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: and butter. And when we get stops on defense, it's 770 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: so hard to get back. And you know, we found 771 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: out a lot this year that people kind of have 772 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: almost stopped crashing on us. As much because they're just 773 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: starting to send Oh when they just send like four 774 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: people back in transition because they're so terrified that we're 775 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: going to run on them. It's it's annoying, honestly, it is. 776 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: But I get it. Our transition is probably one of 777 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: the best in the country, if not the best. You know, 778 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: we allow any guard to bring the ball up. You know, 779 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: we want to outlet it really quick. Our shooter spot 780 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: up four or five, run first, one down, run to 781 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: the block, so you know, I think that. But also 782 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: we run the read and react offense, so like you 783 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: can't scout that, Like that's not something you can scout. 784 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: So I think it makes it hard for people to 785 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: defend us because you can't just go over like, oh, 786 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: they're going to screen there, or they're gonna flare screen there, 787 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna ball screen there, like a lot of teams do. 788 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: So I think that allows me to be creative within 789 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: our offense and find a lot of different ways to 790 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: get mo on the ball or get the shooters the ball. 791 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: So I think there's definitely that element to it as well. 792 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you guys have a lot of different weapons, 793 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like just from what people say or 794 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: commentators or this, and that they really get caught up 795 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: in like, Okay, you have to stop Kaitlyn and Monica, 796 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: But then you think about the other pieces that you 797 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: have around you. 798 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: It makes it so much easier to space the floor. 799 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: And like, like you said, that transition offense, that's the 800 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: best place to play. Transition is my favorite area. It's 801 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: the open court. You can push yourself, you can hit 802 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: your teammates, you can hit your people. Yeah, Like it's 803 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: hard to stop, especially with an offense that moves that much. 804 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: There's no way to scout it. 805 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's why we've had so much success 806 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: of late. We've had a lot of people step up, 807 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: and it's been from game to game it's changed. We've 808 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: had people come off the bench and contribute a lot. 809 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: So I think you know that, like obviously, you guys 810 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: you got balance all across. You can go like twelve 811 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: deep and still be getting bunckets on everybody. But you know, 812 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: I think that kind of takes a good team to 813 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: a great team is when you have that balance and 814 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: a lot of different people contributing one hundred percent. 815 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I hate it when we play 816 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: a team that's deep because it's like, Okay, pick your poison. 817 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to let her get this shot this 818 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: and that. 819 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, okay, her threes aren't that good of 820 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: a percentage. All of a sudden, she got four threes 821 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: in the first half, and I'm. 822 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: Like, okay, I swear about the scouts. Coach. Oh, she 823 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: can't shoot. She can't shoot, Like we're sagging off this game. 824 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like, it never fails that. Somehow the person 825 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: that can't shoot always scores. Like it just doesn't make sense. 826 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: But that always happens to us every time. 827 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: It's like we come into that first media timeout and 828 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: we're like, so throw the scout out the window. 829 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah I do. We're like, whose scout was this? Come on, 830 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: don't even watch. 831 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: The film exactly. I'm like, I don't care how many 832 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: games you watched. That was an awful scout. Like you lied. 833 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: I don't like the numbers lie, the numbers lie. I'm 834 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: not hearing it. 835 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: I Mean, we talked a bit about your facilitating, but 836 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: it's not to take anything away from your scoring. Like 837 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: who else is pulling up two steps cross half court? 838 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: Bang? Give me that? 839 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Do this? 840 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: Whatever? 841 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: But like My question is is there ever like a 842 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: heat check, because it seems like the heat check is 843 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: burst out of the game. It's just like come out, 844 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: come out, how we feel it today, and if it's 845 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: about how we're ready to roll. If it's not, we're 846 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: still rolling. 847 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 2: That's true, honestly. Like if I start the game off 848 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: hot and like I hit a three, like oh my, 849 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: like they're going up, and like my teammates know I 850 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: just hit a couple threes or something like that, like 851 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: watch out because it's transition threes going up, and you 852 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: can just tell, like if you just look at me, 853 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: like you know what's going up. Like there was one 854 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: when we were playing who were we. I think it 855 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: was Nebraska, like two saturdays ago. I had just made 856 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: like a couple threes in transition and like I got 857 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: the ball and I kid you not. I was like 858 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: a step and a half past half court and I 859 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: shot it. And after I shot it, I go, wow, 860 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: that was just dumb and insane. Why would I ever 861 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: shoot that? It was so short it didn't go in. Yeah, 862 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: but we're like oh, Like I'm like running back and 863 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: like I look at the people court side and I 864 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: go wow, that was insane and they just started dying laughing. Yeah. 865 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean two steps past half court, it's like, oh well, 866 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: but it's like that mentality where it's next play, know whatever. 867 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's where targets pressure with me because 868 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: similar to you, I'm. 869 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: Very much high risk khy reward. 870 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Let's throw it again, and that if I throw it 871 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: past a cam and let's say like mishandles it whatever. 872 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Instead of being like Okay, I'm never throwing in the 873 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: ball game, I'm like, right, sure, yeah, Tar is like okay, Haley, 874 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: like it's time I said no, no, no, Cam, a 875 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: little higher, a little lower, a little harder, Let's do 876 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: it again, because that looks great. So I mean I 877 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: love the high risk ky reward, and I think that 878 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: you being the type of player where you're able to 879 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: score at will obviously, but it's also you having the 880 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: understanding of like being selfless and find the hot hand. 881 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: And if that's not you want to give a night 882 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: it rarely is. But if that's not you on a night, 883 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, let me find Gabby on the wing, 884 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: let me find Monik inside, like let me do all 885 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: these different things because it's a mindset where it's like 886 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: you want to win more than anything else, because, like 887 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: you said, that's been a competitive nature since you were young. 888 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: And I think that comes like also with like my 889 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: maturity of understanding the you know, maybe my freshman and 890 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: sophomore year, like I have off nights like man like 891 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: I just sometimes would like kind of lose my cool, 892 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: like kind of just you get in your head like 893 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: you're mad, like you're like why are these shots going down? 894 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 2: Like you put in so much time, but being able 895 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: to understand, like to think you're gonna shoot great and 896 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: that many consecutive games is a crazy thought. 897 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So now moving off the court for a quick moment, 898 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about NIO. How did you kind 899 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: of take the process? Did you find an agency, did 900 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: you do it on your own? Did you kind of 901 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: take your time with it? What was your perspective going 902 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: into things? 903 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: What did you want? Did you want to make NIO 904 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: big for you? 905 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Like? 906 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 3: What were what was the mentality moving into it? 907 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, like I was more like kind of figuring 908 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: out all what it was at first. And I still 909 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: don't really have an agent that works for me. I'll 910 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: probably like get one closer as I get ready and 911 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: prepare for the WNBA. Yeah, I'm sure you know how 912 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: that goes. Like it's a process. You've got to find 913 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: the right one for you. There's so many different options. 914 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: But obviously my family has been a huge help. My 915 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: mom's done a ton for me. She actually retired from 916 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: working just a couple of years before, like I got 917 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: to college, so she's been like my right hand woman, 918 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: and she was like in the professional business world, so 919 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: like she knows how a lot of that stuff goes. 920 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: Obviously anil's a lot different, but like, yeah, at least 921 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: she has some experience in that. But you know, she's 922 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: been awesome, and I think, you know, I've been busy 923 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 2: with so much stuff, and it's nice to have somebody 924 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: that you know, you can really trust to be able 925 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: to lean on and help you with. But you know, 926 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: obviously there's a lot of people in my corner that 927 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: helped me with a lot of different things. And obviously, 928 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: your play on the court definitely determines how NIL is 929 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: for you. But also at the same time, like it 930 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: gets super big right during the heart of your season, 931 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: which is really difficult too, because like that's when you 932 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: have the most visibility on you, but like that's when 933 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: you're the busiest, So it's being able to balance those two. 934 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: But you know, obviously being able to sign with Nike 935 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: as you know, super cool. Obviously. You know I grew 936 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: up admiring a ton of Nike athletes like those were 937 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: my role models, those were my idols. And now being 938 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: able to like be a part and be one of them, 939 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: I think is super cool and kind of takes you 940 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: back for a second. 941 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my mom is my mama, jer and yeah, 942 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: just she is like exactly. 943 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 944 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: So it's like it's so nice being able to have 945 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: this person as you navigate through this new part of 946 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: your life into this professional world. But it's also the 947 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: person that you trust most, and it's like there's never 948 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: going to be any type of ill will behind any 949 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: of the decisions being made for you, which I really appreciate. 950 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Nike, Like the Nike deal was crazy. 951 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: Like when my people reach out to me about it, I. 952 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: Was like me, what. 953 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: Real? 954 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: But I mean just doing something like that is so special. 955 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Like you said, greats that you look up to, Like 956 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned our icons Serena Williams, Nike, Right, it's just 957 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: such it really is a take of a stepback moment, 958 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: but just. 959 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: Kind of moving through this nil space. 960 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: What has been the best advice you've received or best 961 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: advice you could give out to our listeners? 962 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: Ask questions like that's the biggest thing, Like if you 963 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: don't understand something like you can always ask. Obviously that 964 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: goes for a lot of things in life. But I 965 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: think also like partnering with companies that truly align with 966 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: your values and like what you're passionate about. Don't just 967 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: do something because they offer you money or something like 968 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: that or clothes or car, you know, really be passionate 969 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: about it and make sure you know it aligns with 970 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: what you're true to as well. I think that's super 971 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: important and that's been something for me. You know, I 972 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: want to align with companies that understand the time of 973 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: student athlete and that I don't have all day to 974 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: sit there and you know, shoot a commercial or you know, 975 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: post on Instagram, post on Twitter and do things like that. 976 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 2: So I think those are kind of the biggest things 977 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 2: that I've definitely learned and that I would say are 978 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: kind of the most important. 979 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: No, for sure, I think being authentic right, like you're 980 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: picking brands that you want to work with, messages. 981 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: That you believe in. 982 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: I know for me, a lot of it was learning 983 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: to say no to a lot of opportunities too. It's 984 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: like you don't have to jump on everything, and it's 985 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: doing your research. It's what is this company believe in? 986 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: What are their messages, how do they operate? Do they 987 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: really want you to be a partner or are you 988 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: just like a face. 989 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you just post quick to Instagram posts and like. 990 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. 991 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not interested in signing these cash grab deals. 992 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: You want to create relationship with brands, like you said, 993 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: moving into your professional careers, it's your brand, and it's 994 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: it's weird to think that, Like I used to look 995 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: up to these college players as rule models, and now 996 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, kids look up to me. 997 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's weird because you feel like you're just that 998 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: little kid still exactly, but really, like that's the shoes 999 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: that you're in now. 1000 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it's definitely odd now that I'm here 1001 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: and it's like. 1002 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a role model. 1003 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm still figuring out stuff myself, Like when's the day 1004 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: when I don't call my mom when I have a question, 1005 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: never like oh, like I mean I have a slight inconvenience, 1006 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, I don't know how to do this form. 1007 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy. But Niel has been so much fun. 1008 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: It has It's been awesome, and it's been cool to 1009 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: see people give back too, Like I think that's also 1010 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: another you know, cool thing, whether it's like they're giving 1011 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: a charity, they're hosting a certain event, or you know, 1012 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: they're holding a camp back in their hometown where the 1013 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: kids are coming and get being able to work out. 1014 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: So I think there's been like a lot of really 1015 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 2: cool stuff with it as. 1016 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: Well, hundred percent, And just like growing the women's game, 1017 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: I feel like women's basketball's been on the forefront of 1018 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: a lot of nil and absolutely seeing these big brands 1019 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: that want to work with people like for us like 1020 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: Nike or I know there's some Adidas athletes or this, 1021 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: that and the third. Just the type of brands that 1022 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: women's basketball players are aligning themselves with just proves how 1023 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: much value that we bring. 1024 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: Which I feel like is just so great. 1025 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: Like when I see people post, I feel like a 1026 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: lot of us know each other from USA or EIBL 1027 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: or when I see. 1028 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 3: Somebody post a deal, I'm like commenting. I'm like, oh 1029 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: my god, I send it to my mom. I'm like, 1030 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 3: look at her go I'll be here clapping from a distance, 1031 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 3: like it is so exciting. 1032 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: Women's basketball players are usually like the ones on the 1033 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: forefront of a lot of really big campaigns. That's you know, 1034 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: it's super cool to see. And like you said, I 1035 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: think that's going to help people, you know, want to 1036 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: tune in and watch us even more. 1037 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: Okay, last segment here. 1038 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be called our vibe check, and it is 1039 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: rapid fire questions. In the past, our guests have not 1040 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: been too good, So I hope that I'm scared you're 1041 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna I believe it's it's nothing too crazy. 1042 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1043 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yeah? 1044 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: What is the drill you never want to see on 1045 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: your practice plan? 1046 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: Oh, coach k layups terrible? Oh my god, what's that? 1047 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 2: You basically like just run back and forth full court, 1048 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: like trying to make as many layups as you can 1049 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: in two minutes, and like, I don't even know what 1050 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: the goal is, but basically I know our goal is 1051 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: like insane, and Coach Booter just has made it way 1052 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: too hard. Because like we rarely ever complete the drill 1053 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: and like if you're exhausted, so if we have to 1054 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: keep doing it again, like it's even more impossible. And 1055 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: if you miss, like you get subtracted points from like 1056 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: how many you've made, so like you can literally never 1057 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: miss a layup in two minutes and you're sprinting full court, 1058 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: full speed every single person, Like it's wild. It's always 1059 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: like we always like go up to our managers and 1060 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: we're like, uh, what's the warm up drill to day? 1061 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 2: Please don't be coach k labs. 1062 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: Like please god, no, yeah, gosh, okay, are you gonna 1063 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: go for a game winning shot or a game winning steal? 1064 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: Game winning shot? Come on? 1065 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: Now, I know I know. Off the course sneakers, what's 1066 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: your go to? 1067 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh, dun clothes, got to those are my go to it? 1068 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: Love it okay? And one a three pointer? 1069 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: Three pointer? Come on? 1070 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: Toughest place to play? 1071 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: Ooh that is a good one. Well, we played at 1072 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: Duke last year. That was tough. I didn't realize like 1073 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't like it was like pretty full. It wasn't 1074 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: like anything like crazy crazy, but like, oh my gosh, 1075 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 2: those people are loud and like it's small, so like 1076 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: it gets even louder than you would think. And the 1077 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 2: band's loud, but no, Cameron in door was awesome. I 1078 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: would probably say there. 1079 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, old gym's get loud for some odd reason. 1080 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: Crazy. 1081 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,479 Speaker 3: What's your go to trash talk line? 1082 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh man, don't try to. I don't want to talk trash. 1083 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 2: That's my I usually try not to. Honestly, more than anything, 1084 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: I'm usually just celebrating my team are like myself. Oh man, 1085 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: that's tough. 1086 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 3: Maybe just like you'd be giving the shrug talk either. 1087 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: The three to the crowd a lot. I like to 1088 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 2: hype the crowd. I hype up the crowd a lot. 1089 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: We're more at home. They love it. They get so loud. 1090 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: But honestly, like I don't really say too much of 1091 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: the other team. Okay, try to say something to me 1092 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: like obviously I when. 1093 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: Respond yeah, get the crowd going, Yeah, I got course, Okay. 1094 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: Ice pack or ice bath, neither hot tub. 1095 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: My trainer would laugh at this question because there was 1096 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: a phase in the summer where I was in the 1097 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: cold tub every single day. But like now I just 1098 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: can't do it, like I'm always in the hot tub. 1099 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: But if I had to pick. I'm going Ice Pack. 1100 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 3: Okay, what is the school with the best facilities. 1101 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: University of Iowa, duh. But if I have to pick 1102 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: something other than that, oh man, I'll pick somebody in 1103 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: the Big ten. I'm gonna say Michigan. Like. I love 1104 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: their arena, their campus is awesome. Obviously, I haven't really 1105 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: seen like their practice him or like weight room, but 1106 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: I just got a vibe that it's awesome. And they're 1107 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: a Jordan school. They're a Jordan school, Like, I feel 1108 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: like they got cool shoes, cool stuff. They kind of 1109 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: have a cool like equipment room with that, obviously, so 1110 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm. 1111 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 3: Not share with them for sure. In the pack, it's 1112 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 3: organ like they got Ye. 1113 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: That's an easy answer. And when I visited Orgon, like, 1114 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: I saw all that and was like that definitely would 1115 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: make make a kid want to go there, But you 1116 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: gotta look past that. But no, it's definitely cool, especially 1117 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 2: the room with like all the shoes of like. 1118 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 3: Ever crazy unreal crazy. 1119 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay, And then last vibe check question, what is your 1120 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: best impersonation of coach Blueter. 1121 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, she's always like beautiful, beautiful, like she always 1122 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: says that, or but like if I could show you, 1123 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 2: she like loves stomping the ground with her foot, like 1124 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: if something goes wrong, like pounding the ground with her foot, 1125 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 2: and like she talks about it when she used to 1126 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 2: like dress up, when they used to dress up for 1127 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: every game, like in her heels, she said, like it 1128 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: would hurt so bad the next day her foot. So 1129 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 2: I would definitely go to stop or the beautiful. And 1130 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: she's always wanted to like point out an assist, Like 1131 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: she loves to celebrate the assists more than the basket. 1132 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what we pride ourselves in. So 1133 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: I would say those two things more than anything. 1134 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: Kaitlin, this has been amazing. Thank you so much for 1135 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: being on the podcast. 1136 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. 1137 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of fun, of course, and we 1138 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: will be back every week with a new guest following 1139 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: the latest on women's hoops. 1140 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: This has been Sometimes I Hoop. 1141 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, Hey everyone, thanks so much for listening to Sometimes 1142 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: I Hoop. Please don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review 1143 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to follow me 1144 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Haley dot Jones. 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