WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 7/25: Day 2 Recap, Clunky Day for Offense, Defense Stepping Up

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<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome into our second episode of the Patriots

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<v Speaker 4>Training Campcast for twenty twenty four. Evan Lazar, Paul Parello, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>You so just got off the field for the second

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<v Speaker 4>practice and guys, not as much fireworks today. There weren't

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<v Speaker 4>any big plays, not a lot, you know, not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to really hang your hat on today, especially get

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<v Speaker 4>excited about on the offensive side of the ball. A

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of a blah practice, I would call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Yeah, I'm trying not to overreact to these initial practices.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not they're not in pads or really not even

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<v Speaker 2>in shells or helmets and T shirts and shorts right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't want to sound any alarms about the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of the things that we were concerned about

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the season on paper are showing up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in this practice today where there isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>ton going on down the field, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the downfield throws are contested. You know, Jalen Polk down

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline with Marcus Jones all over him, or Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Henry Jabriel Peppers broke up a pass for him a

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<v Speaker 2>similar type of route down the sideline, and those types

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<v Speaker 2>of plays are just not hitting at a high rate

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And it's a lot of contested fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty type balls, and you just would have liked to

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<v Speaker 2>have seen a little bit more of what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>from Jalen Rigor yesterday, which was just running wide open

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<v Speaker 2>behind the defense. But it's a good defense and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily going to see that all the time against

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots starters. But overall, a clunky day for the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's anything that we didn't already

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<v Speaker 2>know about where they're at.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I would agree. Overall, there weren't a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of flash plays, and the ones that the feud

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<v Speaker 3>that did happen were on the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and the ones that Evan mentioned were the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>stood out to me. I do think there was some indications,

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<v Speaker 3>at least that there were some other guys getting involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Taekwon Thornton. I didn't really notice at all on opening day.

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<v Speaker 3>He cut a handful of passes today from both Jacoby

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<v Speaker 3>Brissett and Drake May. We should probably add that Brissette

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<v Speaker 3>again took the lead reps and then you know, Drake

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<v Speaker 3>May followed little slight twist after that. Joe Milton went

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<v Speaker 3>before Bailey Zappi. All four took reps, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was interesting that Milton went third in Zappi fourth today,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would agree with that overall assessment. More of

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<v Speaker 3>a defensive day today, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yesterday we saw Joe Milton get a little

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not a lot of action, but got some

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<v Speaker 4>like mop up reps, almost completed a couple passes thrown

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<v Speaker 4>in time looked okay, seeing almost like hey, let's give

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<v Speaker 4>him a little bit more of a shot today. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk too, though, about Jacoby Brissette, because while

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't outstanding, I think we all agree that there

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<v Speaker 4>were some moments where Jacoby Brissett just looked like he

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<v Speaker 4>was running the offense the way he need to be run,

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<v Speaker 4>hitting the back foot, getting the ball out. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>That's why he's here right, so he can run the

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<v Speaker 4>offense on time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no doubt about it that his timing and

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<v Speaker 2>just approach to the offense in general, he's a pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's made forty eight starts in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's gonna be a little bit better in those

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<v Speaker 2>regards to Drake May, and that might be enough at

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<v Speaker 2>least initially for him to hold on to the starting

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<v Speaker 2>job going into the season. But the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I consistently feel what Jakobe p said is that there's

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<v Speaker 2>this not a whole lot of playmaking or dynamic element

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<v Speaker 2>down the field from him, whereas with Drake May, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it might be not as perfect in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the timing and all that, which I'm sure the coaches

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<v Speaker 2>probably see even more than we do, you have that

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<v Speaker 2>threat of on any given drop back you could have

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty yard bomb in there somewhere. I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way with Jacob PRIs said, but as politics

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<v Speaker 2>to say, there was a lot a couple plays there

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<v Speaker 2>today where it looked like a play in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that, Okay, you know three step drop balls

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<v Speaker 2>out hit the back of the foot. Everybody runs their

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<v Speaker 2>routes properly and we have a play right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>happens maybe a little bit more assignment with Jakob PRIs

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<v Speaker 2>said at this point, no, I totally understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like it happened on a Sunday and we

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<v Speaker 2>had a few of those today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and a couple of bookkeeping things. Antonio Gibson looks

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<v Speaker 3>like he was taking off of NFI and Girodmeo said

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday that it wouldn't be a long term thing expecting

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<v Speaker 3>him back. He didn't have his helmet with him. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really take part in the practice, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>in uniform out there did some lower rehab field work.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's you know, obviously back on the field and

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<v Speaker 3>closer to getting back full strength. That's a good sign

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<v Speaker 3>on the flip side. Devon Godshaw, we didn't see him

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<v Speaker 3>for about the first hour of practice at all. He

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<v Speaker 3>came out later, No, helmet, didn't really do a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's a report, I think mass Live tweeted out

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<v Speaker 3>that Christian Barmore might be dealing with an illness and

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<v Speaker 3>he was limited. He didn't really do much in the

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<v Speaker 3>full eleven on eleven work, but I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Godshaw's dealing with something along those lines too, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's just an indication of the contract stuff that and

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<v Speaker 3>it's ugly head.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we did hear from Jude On yesterday who kind

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<v Speaker 4>of expressed, you know, he'd like a new deal. Clearly

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<v Speaker 4>looks like it's heading down that road with gotchall Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to do what Judon did last year, the

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<v Speaker 4>hold in. It's the new InVogue thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>My biggest question guys is just how does this all

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<v Speaker 4>resolve itself. We don't want this hanging over the team's

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<v Speaker 4>head as we go into the season, especially Paul. With

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<v Speaker 4>Judon who you know, I mean, he's a valuable player.

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<v Speaker 4>He is, he's going to be thirty two in a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks, but he's got some juice and he just

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<v Speaker 4>he's the pass rusher that they need off the edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I do think it's important, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>this is a new regime. You want to get off

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<v Speaker 3>to a you know, a good start and really at

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<v Speaker 3>least put your best foot forward, have the best personnel

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<v Speaker 3>that you can out there. So I wouldn't advocate trading

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<v Speaker 3>him now, Like if you were going to deal him

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<v Speaker 3>I would have said, you know, get it done. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>earlier in the offseason where you had a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>sort of make a plan to replace him. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>would I would go into the season. Maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if he's playing well, he's sort of a leader on

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<v Speaker 3>that front seven and you can get going that way,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you're not having the success as a team

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<v Speaker 3>that you hope, then maybe you can revisit any any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of trade possibilities you mentioned. He spoke yesterday, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he doesn't he's not asking for a trade.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want to be traded, but the contract is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just want to highlight a couple of guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it stood out a little bit today. Started

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<v Speaker 4>with Jahem Bel rookie seventh round pick, guy that I

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<v Speaker 4>know you were high on, had him on your big board,

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<v Speaker 4>but we saw him start to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>involved today. Paul mentioned Marcus Jones earlier kind of active

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<v Speaker 4>as in the slot, a guy that we kind of

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<v Speaker 4>an unknown commodity. We know he's a returner. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been injured. We haven't seen a lot of him.

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<v Speaker 4>And also Taekwon Thornton, who we mentioned you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more active. What did you see from

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<v Speaker 4>most of you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just started with Marcus Jones two days in a

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<v Speaker 2>row now, where he's been the top slot corner nickel

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<v Speaker 2>corner with the Patriots defense, and for right now, on paper,

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<v Speaker 2>it would seem like he would be the inside track

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<v Speaker 2>or have the inside track to being that top nickel

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<v Speaker 2>corner and when they go through true corners, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about big nickel or getting the safeties involved

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. He's definitely the guy in man coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the most confident about inside other than obviously

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<v Speaker 2>John Jones, but you think he can play more on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside still. So I've been encouraged what I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>from Marcus Jones. Got a couple hands on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>passes over the last few days as well, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>had good coverage. We'll see if he can keep it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And to your point about Taekwon Thorton, it's just we

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<v Speaker 2>do we quit it or do we not? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you just every day he pulls you back in

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<v Speaker 2>and he has one of these types of days. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a lot of underneath stuff. It wasn't anything

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<v Speaker 2>down the field, We're not that four two eight was

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<v Speaker 2>not on full display necessarily, but he did lead the

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<v Speaker 2>team with four catches and team drills here today, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's certainly something that taekwon Thornton. Every couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have one of these types of practices that make

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<v Speaker 2>you believe. Again, I'm not sure I'm totally there, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting there then, just quickly. But jahe Bell would

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<v Speaker 2>stood out with to me with him was how much

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<v Speaker 2>they were moving him around, and that was something that

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<v Speaker 2>he did a lot in college. And if he can

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<v Speaker 2>learn the playbook to a point where he's able to

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<v Speaker 2>run routes from various alignments, then that will help him

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<v Speaker 2>get on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Pull anybody else that caught your eye today just in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of I mean, I know it was there's not

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of big plays, but.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there weren't. And you know, I'm sort of watching

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<v Speaker 3>that secondary to see the different you know, combinations and

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<v Speaker 3>what I've seen most of if you guys have seen different,

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<v Speaker 3>correct me. I've seen Gonzales and Jones with Marcus Jones

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<v Speaker 3>in the slot in some of alex Austin, but not

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<v Speaker 3>as much as we saw in the spring. So I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if like it's just it's Jonathan Jones and it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's Christian Gonzales and then you know, everybody else's.

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<v Speaker 2>Marks of the World.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I thought there was a chance that maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with the amount that we saw Austin in

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<v Speaker 3>the spring, that they maybe had designs of him being

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside and Jonathan Jones being in the slot.

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<v Speaker 3>So far, only two days, I haven't really seen that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, well only two days. But hey, we

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<v Speaker 4>got what do we have? Eleven more practices to go.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just getting started here. There's obviously things moving, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the trains moving, and we're expecting pads to be Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna have practices on Friday, practices on Sunday,

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