Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, this is the pet you Branson and you
Speaker 1: are listening to Eyes up here with Branson and my.
Speaker 2: Heart Leading Network or wherever you put your podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not joined by my chochres chat today, I am
Speaker 1: joined by an icon in the world of professional wrestling. Everybody,
Speaker 1: help me introduce the lovely, the talented Hollywood from glew
Speaker 1: is here.
Speaker 2: My dear. How are they here? Geene? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 4: We haven't seen each other for a little bit, so.
Speaker 2: I don't recall the last time. It has to have
Speaker 2: been at least you know what it was.
Speaker 3: You know what was in the Midwest. I think I
Speaker 3: get all those mixed up.
Speaker 4: It was above Kentucky, Indiana, Yes, I think it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know where's Circle expel maybe maybe somewhere the Midwest. So,
Speaker 3: but we did see each other, and then it was
Speaker 3: on the East coast, and now we're going to see
Speaker 3: each other, I believe on the West coast.
Speaker 1: I can't well, well we can plug that. Russell Con
Speaker 1: is huge this year Las Vegas. Yes, and I was
Speaker 1: thrilled to hear that you are going to be there
Speaker 1: because I am going to be there, so exactly definitely
Speaker 1: have to bump into each other while we're out.
Speaker 3: We're oh, and we will.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have to because we're going to You look beautiful.
Speaker 3: You look beautiful as always, everybody, the beautiful, Oh, Francine,
Speaker 3: don't forget well, I'll mention it in one more in
Speaker 3: a minute, but the beautiful.
Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody. Well, the first thing I want to talk
Speaker 1: about is your book. Never, I would not forget your.
Speaker 2: Book, if that's what you were referring to.
Speaker 3: I was because I want to tell everybody. I had
Speaker 3: asked Francine if she would like to do a little
Speaker 3: blurb for the book, and without hesitation, she said yes,
Speaker 3: I would love to.
Speaker 2: And I made the cut.
Speaker 1: Yea, I know I was gonna I get a signed copy.
Speaker 3: Yes you will when I see you.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm going to be bringing these to Vegas. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you did make the cut, miss.
Speaker 1: Honor, that you even asked me to write something so well,
Speaker 1: you know what you.
Speaker 3: And I had talked, and I could just tell that
Speaker 3: were a lot the same and side. We think a
Speaker 3: lot the same way, lots of respect. We don't take bullshit,
Speaker 3: but you know, we not tell the truth. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I just knew that you were cut from.
Speaker 3: The same cloth as me. I'm like, I want this
Speaker 3: young lady, this icon in my book.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I was honored.
Speaker 4: I was honored and being in it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, definitely. I hope I did you some justice.
Speaker 1: And I saw when it came out and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I have to get a copy of that,
Speaker 1: so I but I want it signed.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be signed.
Speaker 4: So it's uh, hooray for Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, wait a minute, you look gorgeous on
Speaker 1: the cover.
Speaker 2: Look, I love that picture.
Speaker 3: You know what. I decided that I wanted something that
Speaker 3: was going to stand out, and that some chick with
Speaker 3: a lollipop in her out.
Speaker 2: It's so cool about it. You look beautiful. Number one.
Speaker 3: John Beta is awesome. John A.
Speaker 4: Beta did this photo and he did the make and
Speaker 4: it was a little.
Speaker 3: While ago, but obviously it was before that one, the original.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I love year old, right, it's such a great job.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what stands out to me besides the lollipop
Speaker 1: is the black and white and the pink, right, margeous.
Speaker 3: And those are my colors anyway, because in Glow I
Speaker 3: started doing black and pink and I thought, you know what,
Speaker 3: the gray town because this was a color photo, and
Speaker 3: I said, in my design cover And she had asked, Genie,
Speaker 3: can I please do your cover because that's what she
Speaker 3: does and she teaches it as well, and I sent
Speaker 3: her this. The lollipop was originally red, the whole you know, red,
Speaker 3: and I said.
Speaker 4: Let's make that pink. And then she came up.
Speaker 3: I told her I wanted this fight club font, you know,
Speaker 3: the Fike Club.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: I said yeah, I said I wanted that, and then
Speaker 3: and then we went through eighteen revisions. I feel bad,
Speaker 3: but you know, Lily, when you're doing something like that,
Speaker 3: you want it. And it could be just tiny little things.
Speaker 3: Oh this up here needs to be darker or larger.
Speaker 3: Let's move this over to the side and up No,
Speaker 3: it needs to be you know what I mean, those
Speaker 3: kinds of things not right. I'm not that picky, but
Speaker 3: I wanted everything placed in the right position. And then
Speaker 3: I decided to come up with an limited edition color
Speaker 3: so on the limit.
Speaker 4: So then we had to go back and add that little.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, if you can see that, it is limited edition.
Speaker 3: So I have about two hundred and fifty limited edition
Speaker 3: and those ones are going to be all all the
Speaker 3: photos here are in color.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's the one I want, of course.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to number them as well, so when
Speaker 3: you get them, they're going to be numbered in those
Speaker 3: So I don't offer these. I offer these on my
Speaker 3: Etsy side and my website right now.
Speaker 4: Amazon has the black and white. So black and white.
Speaker 3: But I I also did pre order a while ago,
Speaker 3: and I figured if I do pre order, then I
Speaker 3: can sit down and autograph all of them and then
Speaker 3: ship them out. Yeah. Sure, people couldn't wait, and I
Speaker 3: didn't know, but I the published date was Christmas twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, and I was just like, what a great
Speaker 3: Christmas present for me because I've been trying to say, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's going to be summer, and then I want to shoot,
Speaker 3: it's not summer now, it's August, and here we are
Speaker 3: in the fall. I'm like, okay. I kind of think
Speaker 3: that people thought maybe I was not telling the truth
Speaker 3: when I said I have a book. I have a book.
Speaker 2: I really do, but.
Speaker 3: In writing one, I'm not that great of a writer
Speaker 3: to just go love and work on it every single day.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you know, I got to work
Speaker 3: on this and it wasn't like it was a chore
Speaker 3: because reading it, it just I was like, wow, that's
Speaker 3: my story, and you know, and what I did franc
Speaker 3: scene as I decided to make it in part art,
Speaker 3: I started doing a little more due diligence. So I
Speaker 3: went over to Paris's book and Prince Harry and I
Speaker 3: picked them up and I looked and I'm like, cool,
Speaker 3: they did it in parts part one. So for me,
Speaker 3: part one, with all the chapters in it, will be
Speaker 3: growing up, just you know, I had a very lively childhood,
Speaker 3: and then part two would be my audition, and then
Speaker 3: everything about wrestling and Glow. Part three would be when
Speaker 3: that ended, and then you know, what do you do after?
Speaker 3: You know? You know, and and then coming up with
Speaker 3: the different chapters and you know what I wanted to
Speaker 3: call some of them. I guess this book is like
Speaker 3: it's things that I participated in, suffered from, I don't know,
Speaker 3: gained from, and certain things that.
Speaker 4: I've achieved, and so I had to have all of
Speaker 4: that in here.
Speaker 3: So if you are a fan of Glow the Gorge,
Speaker 3: Ladies of Wrestling, or a fan of me, this is
Speaker 3: a perfect book I think too. For everybody and another
Speaker 3: thing that I thought to you. It wasn't just oh,
Speaker 3: I did wrestling for these for this particular company for
Speaker 3: four years, write a book. But I thought since I
Speaker 3: was the first one hired for the pilot, I mean,
Speaker 3: we didn't know what we were doing. Seriously, I had
Speaker 3: no idea the sport of wrestling because I didn't watch it.
Speaker 3: I really didn't. And what do you watch in the seventies,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you're watching Wonder Woman and Batman
Speaker 3: and Batgirl and those kind of shows growing up. So
Speaker 3: I did remember my grandfather watching it, you know, but
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about wrestling. And so I thought
Speaker 3: this is a good story for me to tell because
Speaker 3: I was there for the pilot. I was there for
Speaker 3: a season one, two, three, and four, and I figured
Speaker 3: I would be the perfect person to talk about this,
Speaker 3: you know. And yeah, absolutely, And it's the truth. When
Speaker 3: you read it.
Speaker 4: I don't embellish anything. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: Exactly as it happened. I'm not making up anything. These
Speaker 3: are my words, my truth, and things that happen to me.
Speaker 3: So you'll just go, oh my god. I've had some
Speaker 3: people read it already they're like, oh, and they'll name
Speaker 3: something and they put they slapped their hand, you know,
Speaker 3: over their head.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of it because I made it classy.
Speaker 6: I didn't make it trashy. I love that, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean classy? I honestly do know what you mean. Yes,
Speaker 6: and I could trust me. There are some parts in there,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: I was careful. You know, bullying. I'm a huge advocate
Speaker 3: of bullying, and and there are some things that are
Speaker 3: very hurtful, so you'll read it. I read it and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh that hurts, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I was careful. I had a lawyer look over
Speaker 3: everything because, you you know, just in case there was
Speaker 3: a word or two that should you know. When you're
Speaker 3: writing it, you're like, because you're you're in it, sometimes
Speaker 3: you have to step out of the box again and
Speaker 3: reread it for the first time. And I will say
Speaker 3: for anybody who's reading, who's done hasn't done this before
Speaker 3: as far as errors and everything, have people help, have
Speaker 3: editors in there, go over on four different people doing
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 4: And I still so, I still there's like two commas.
Speaker 3: I'm like, there shouldn't be too commas.
Speaker 2: How do the right because miss happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then let me just let me just correct
Speaker 1: and you're an advocate against bullying. Bullying, yes, against it
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Sorry, no, no, no, I want them
Speaker 1: to know that you are one of the sweetest people
Speaker 1: I've met.
Speaker 2: So she's not a bully, not a bully at all.
Speaker 1: No, that book, let me tell you, playing a heel
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 3: But for U ever, I understand, don't don't. Yeah, don't think.
Speaker 4: I'm weak because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I will always give the benefit of the doubt because
Speaker 3: I hated growing up when kids judged You don't judge
Speaker 3: a book by its cover, right, Its beautiful. I love this.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I asked my boyfriend Ole Ryan.
Speaker 3: What do you think of this?
Speaker 5: Oh, oh my god, he goes, that's the one that
Speaker 5: is that.
Speaker 1: That's listen, guys, I'm she's holding up the book right now.
Speaker 1: For those listening, it's thick. Book is thick. So she
Speaker 1: has four hundred pages.
Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you from the beginning to
Speaker 1: end to complete this?
Speaker 4: So I started writing down notes in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's when I wrote the notes. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I wrote those notes down because later on,
Speaker 3: when I'm remembering, I went back to those notes and
Speaker 3: I went, oh, more detail. You know, sometimes you lose
Speaker 3: is the detail.
Speaker 2: So did you write those notes as a journal or
Speaker 2: were you planning to write a book from it?
Speaker 3: No? Not as a journal. Okay, so I was planning
Speaker 3: to do a book anyway, I'm like, Okay, the show
Speaker 3: is over. I need to talk about this.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: There are stories about going to jail.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know there are two. I mean, these things
Speaker 3: are actual things that happen. These are things that here.
Speaker 4: I am an Italian family.
Speaker 3: Mom and dad go to church. Hello, exactly, right, So
Speaker 3: you know what those values are.
Speaker 4: You're you're born, you're raised a certain way.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: Right, there are rules and there are many famous dinners
Speaker 5: that we have, and we're a family and we're very
Speaker 5: tight and we're very close and we always have been
Speaker 5: and that's such a wonderful thing.
Speaker 3: And also my parents they are still together. My mom
Speaker 3: is eighty two and my dad it's going to be
Speaker 3: a eighty six in a couple of months, and it's
Speaker 3: like wow, you know, and good jeans and that's a
Speaker 3: good thing with mom and dad. You would look at
Speaker 3: them and not think, you know, they Mom never got sun,
Speaker 3: so she stayed out of the sun. But she's gray.
Speaker 3: And oh they're sweet. There's pictures of them in the book.
Speaker 3: That is just a door that I had to put
Speaker 3: in there. But yeah, they taught me right from wrong.
Speaker 3: But they also let me have a lot of independence
Speaker 3: because you know, back in the seventies, i'd say bye,
Speaker 3: we're gonna ride our bikes and we would take off.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's funny you mentioned that.
Speaker 1: I try to tell my kids because my kids now,
Speaker 1: my daughter is fifteen and my son's going to be
Speaker 1: thirteen next month.
Speaker 2: Right around here, I know, Oh my gosh, all.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sorry, scary.
Speaker 2: No, kids don't play outside anymore.
Speaker 1: It's dulced because of all these friggin' devices that they have,
Speaker 1: and they're glued to the computers and the iPads and whatever.
Speaker 1: I would tell them like when I was because I
Speaker 1: was I was born in seventy two, so like.
Speaker 2: I was in three. Okay, I was a kid in
Speaker 2: the seventies a little too young.
Speaker 1: But then the eighties is when you know, you go out, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you would listen, you would play outside and you
Speaker 1: would listen for your mother to call you, and that
Speaker 1: was when you used to come home. And all the
Speaker 1: Italian moms because I lived in the little Italy part
Speaker 1: of Italy in Philadelphia, all the Italian moms would scream
Speaker 1: our names and you listen to your mom.
Speaker 2: And then you would go home. So I wanted to
Speaker 2: tell my kids like that was the way that.
Speaker 1: But they don't get it because nowadays nobody does that anymore.
Speaker 2: And it's sad.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like childhood when we were younger, was
Speaker 1: so much more worthwhile than what it was.
Speaker 3: Free. Yeah, I know it's a terrible word, free and easy,
Speaker 3: but I mean mom and Dad already told us someone
Speaker 3: comes up to you, someone does the scream, run the
Speaker 3: other way. We already had that embedded already. Yeah. But
Speaker 3: I think if I have children, young children today, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, I'd want to give them that freedom as well,
Speaker 3: but I'd be scared to death.
Speaker 2: I just it's terrifying. And I'll tell you what. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, but we pulled our
Speaker 2: kids out of school.
Speaker 3: We homeschool good.
Speaker 2: I've been home schooling since the pandemic four years now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's every other day it's a school shooting or
Speaker 1: you know, something's happening and I can't.
Speaker 2: My nerves are bad.
Speaker 3: As it is as it is, right, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Deal with that stuff, so I find it. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're safe, but they're more sheltered. That's the that's the point.
Speaker 1: They're more sheltered. But at least I know they're okay.
Speaker 3: You know, then they're safe. And even yeah, I wish
Speaker 3: that I had though, and I should have. I just
Speaker 3: didn't push it. There were so many rules in our family. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know there was coming home at midnight.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll guess what I do. As soon as I
Speaker 4: came home at midnight, you.
Speaker 3: Went back to that windows? Did you really I did that?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm trouble, you know. And if my if I
Speaker 3: had children and they did that today, oh I would ring.
Speaker 4: I'd probably put chains all over their doors windows.
Speaker 2: You don't share your stories with your kids, right, you don't.
Speaker 3: Well, communication is what I would say. Right, Please tell
Speaker 3: me if you're gonna go out with your friends and
Speaker 3: you guys are going to the movies, if you go
Speaker 3: somewhere after, I'm not mad.
Speaker 4: Just tell me where you are.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: I get my parents. I wasn't like that. Oh no, no,
Speaker 3: oh no.
Speaker 4: Me neither.
Speaker 1: And if you were on my porch, like if you
Speaker 1: were on the porch with the boyfriend, the lights would flicker, yeah,
Speaker 1: like to tell you to come inside. And I feel
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, really embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Tilly was back then. You know, I had to be home, Mike.
Speaker 1: Curfew was eleven thirty. I had to be on the
Speaker 1: porch by a thirty and then the lights would flicker and.
Speaker 2: I had to be in the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the house.
Speaker 2: That was it. So yeah, I get it. But you know,
Speaker 2: the kids today, they have it too easy for lazy.
Speaker 2: They don't want it.
Speaker 3: They don't want to work. That's for most of them.
Speaker 3: Don't want to work or have a job.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, my kids are still young enough because they're
Speaker 1: still in school. And I told them, as long as
Speaker 1: you're in school, you don't have to work. Once you're eighteen.
Speaker 1: If you want to live here, that's fine, but you
Speaker 1: need to get a job.
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it with me.
Speaker 2: Told I die, I don't care, you just.
Speaker 3: Work, just work. Yeah, mom, you know that's a good
Speaker 3: way to keep them responsible as well. Yeah, and my
Speaker 3: parents are the same way, only though at sixteen, my
Speaker 3: dad goes, you have to get a job. I'm like, what, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I wanted to show responsibility. I already had a car. Now,
Speaker 3: I didn't have a brand new car. My dad bought
Speaker 3: this car that you will see in the book. Okay,
Speaker 3: but it's okay. It was a seventy three Plymouth Barracuda.
Speaker 3: And when I saw it, I'm like, Dad, I go,
Speaker 3: it's a weird color. Don't worry. Don't worry. Susie Santoyo's
Speaker 3: dad's gonna do a job for me, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do work for him because he painted cars. Okay, Oh
Speaker 3: my god. They made my car look so cool.
Speaker 4: But it was this you seventy three badass fast car.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know cars, So you're lucky.
Speaker 3: At least it was far inder Bucks. That's all it was.
Speaker 3: My dad made me get a job, and I waited, sweetheart,
Speaker 3: to the last minute, to get a job. And it
Speaker 3: was a drive through, and I learned never there's nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with working in the drive through of fast food. However,
Speaker 3: what is wrong is maybe don't do it right next
Speaker 3: to your school. Go to another city, please, where nobody
Speaker 3: knows you, because here comes the bullying. Yeah, it's making fun.
Speaker 3: I was called the French fry queen.
Speaker 2: But just what French fry queen? You had noney and
Speaker 2: you had a car, and I had a car.
Speaker 3: I had to put bass in it.
Speaker 2: Screw those kids, you know, kids are so cool. I
Speaker 2: hate them.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're selling me.
Speaker 1: They very mean, yeah, very very Oh my god. Well listen,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to read this book. It's it looks beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's on Amazon.
Speaker 2: I have it up here now.
Speaker 1: You can get it in paperback, or you can get
Speaker 1: it on Kindle, which is exciting too for those of
Speaker 1: you who don't read. It's coming to that okay, on
Speaker 1: Amazon right now?
Speaker 2: On Kindle.
Speaker 3: Really you see Kindle? Yes? Wow, I guess it's between
Speaker 3: last night and tonight. Maybe it's up.
Speaker 1: I mean they're selling it, so I guess it's a
Speaker 1: pre order. I don't know, but it is a Kindle.
Speaker 3: I will look and also, you guys, if you're interested,
Speaker 3: it's at my website.
Speaker 4: I have geniebosoone dot com.
Speaker 3: And then there's Hollywood Botanica with a K, which is
Speaker 3: my soap.
Speaker 4: And then there's Etsy. So I've got it in different
Speaker 4: different places.
Speaker 3: And when the Queen of Extreme and I are in
Speaker 3: at Russell Con in Vegas, there you go, it'll.
Speaker 2: Be We'll not letting you go yet. I have a
Speaker 2: couple more things that.
Speaker 3: You're doing here.
Speaker 1: You're not done yet, are you? Are you watching any
Speaker 1: wrestling these days? Having kept up with the products and.
Speaker 5: Here, and they're one of my favorite girls, and I'm
Speaker 5: behind I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I I love Sasha Bank. Always thought you your money
Speaker 3: with the little Hollywood. Uh. So I know she's gone
Speaker 3: to is it ae?
Speaker 2: She's in a w under a different different name.
Speaker 7: Yeah, huh Monet money or yeah, I can't even remember,
Speaker 7: yeah something, but yes, she works over there now.
Speaker 4: She's pretty successful.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I don't watch a time. I have
Speaker 3: to be honest. It's just you know, I'm like wrestling.
Speaker 3: I'll watch it though, and when I do have a
Speaker 3: chance to go through it. Look at the girls today, Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there.
Speaker 1: I was called about a month and a half ago
Speaker 1: to go to NXT for WWE, and I got to
Speaker 1: go there because it was at the ECW Arena and
Speaker 1: they were doing like a throwback to Extreme.
Speaker 3: Oh I love it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they had a bunch of ACW alumni there
Speaker 1: and I was lucky enough to be one of them
Speaker 1: that was invited. That's great, And it was pretty funny
Speaker 1: because they wanted me to referee, but I couldn't referee because.
Speaker 2: Of my abdominal problems.
Speaker 1: Then they wanted me to do backstage interviewing and I
Speaker 1: was I had larynge Johnaths and so I ended up
Speaker 1: sitting in the crowd for the woman's ten person.
Speaker 2: Match that they had.
Speaker 1: Okay, the girls work their asses off, and they're so
Speaker 1: nice and they they all just seemed happy to be there.
Speaker 2: I remember they're all on girl in their twenties, you know.
Speaker 1: We were Yeah, yeah, but it was just fun just
Speaker 1: looking at it from a different perspective because I didn't
Speaker 1: have to I wasn't really working.
Speaker 2: I was just there so.
Speaker 3: You could enjoy the show. Notes.
Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about.
Speaker 3: You do you do when you're sitting in the audience
Speaker 3: and you're looking do you say yes?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I would have done that, or I would do you
Speaker 3: start doing that a little bit at all?
Speaker 1: Not really, I was just like because they they put
Speaker 1: the tumor on me just to announce that I was there,
Speaker 1: and I got out and I waved and started an
Speaker 1: ecw chan or whatever, and then like there was so
Speaker 1: much action because there were ten girls in the ring
Speaker 1: all right, there was so much going on.
Speaker 2: So I was just like whoa hey, yes, whoo.
Speaker 1: And then I had to deal with the men because
Speaker 1: like it was me and like another girl, and then
Speaker 1: there were all men.
Speaker 3: So I'm gun you around.
Speaker 1: Me and uh twenty things who half of them were
Speaker 1: probably like who is this broad coming in at the
Speaker 1: last because they want, you know, they walk you out.
Speaker 2: Before the main event.
Speaker 1: So there was a seat for me, so they they
Speaker 1: placed me, and then most people knew who I was,
Speaker 1: but there were a couple of guys that were probably
Speaker 1: too young to know where I go hot. You know,
Speaker 1: They're screaming, like for the girls that were in the ring,
Speaker 1: like I love you, blah blah blah, and I'm like
Speaker 1: settled down, like she's not looking at you right now,
Speaker 1: she's a spot.
Speaker 2: That's what I mainly doing, was like laughing at the
Speaker 2: people around me.
Speaker 3: I love that, That's what doing. Yeah, it was but
Speaker 3: this way, a little bit this way and a lot
Speaker 3: that way exactly.
Speaker 1: But it was just fun to like observe today's product
Speaker 1: because I dabble in it. Like I don't watch religiously,
Speaker 1: but I because of the podcast, I try to have to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I keep up on X and Instagram
Speaker 1: at what certain people are doing. And like I try
Speaker 1: to watch some of the pay per views because I
Speaker 1: do enjoy that. But it's a lot of wrestling in
Speaker 1: a matter of seven days. Like I do have the time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: watch like twelve hours of wrestling, Like that's not a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean just this book took me
Speaker 3: so long that you should have seen my office because
Speaker 3: I had pictures over here. These pictures have to go
Speaker 3: to part one.
Speaker 4: There was so much going on and people.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a really great friend in Canada's
Speaker 3: name is Bob Harris, and Bob mentored me on this book.
Speaker 3: This is the reason this book looks so good. It
Speaker 3: doesn't look like it is a self published book. I
Speaker 3: needed to make sure that this book looked like you know,
Speaker 3: random House picked it up and I didn't no disrespect,
Speaker 3: but I it had to be perfect. It had to
Speaker 3: be like something that I would find in the bookstore.
Speaker 3: And that's my next thing is it's called ingram Spark,
Speaker 3: and so I have to upload all of that. And
Speaker 3: what ingram Spark does is it will offer the book
Speaker 3: to all the mom and pop and the big bookstores
Speaker 3: if you're in the airport like Hudson, So those people
Speaker 3: get it from Ingram Spark. I had no idea about this,
Speaker 3: but I learned that that's where other where this is.
Speaker 3: But I can't even say it. This is where this
Speaker 3: will be next in bookstores as soon as I fload it.
Speaker 3: So okay, you know, and I'm correcting a couple of
Speaker 3: things in there, which is great that I can do that.
Speaker 3: You know, I might add a little bit or just
Speaker 3: correct those two comments that shouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: Oh so for the next publication that goes to Hudson
Speaker 1: or wherever.
Speaker 3: It's to the bookstores, we'll just yeah, it'll be uh,
Speaker 3: it's the same photos, everything's the same. But if I
Speaker 3: saw an.
Speaker 4: Error or an indentation that was incorrect, that little.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that got you. Got you.
Speaker 1: Well, when I think of Glow, you're the first person
Speaker 1: that always came to mind. And I told you this before,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, I was too young to experience
Speaker 1: it the first time around. So I watched it in
Speaker 1: syndication reruns and whatever. And you know, I was always
Speaker 1: I was my career. I was ninety percent of heel.
Speaker 1: So I always gravitated to the Fells. And you are
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Like your look, your persona, just
Speaker 1: your character, like I loved you and I told you this.
Speaker 1: You were one of the ones Hollywood and Vine. You
Speaker 1: guys were my favorite tag team. I loved watching you perform.
Speaker 1: You worked there for four years. Right when you get out,
Speaker 1: do you get offers from WWF, like, hey, we saw
Speaker 1: you do this, Why don't you come do it for us?
Speaker 1: Because I can't believe that your only time in wrestling
Speaker 1: was for this promotion.
Speaker 4: Well, there is a story about that in this book.
Speaker 2: In the book, can you give us at bit without
Speaker 2: giving away too?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course a lot of people know it already.
Speaker 3: So I was right in the middle of a broken leg.
Speaker 3: So I had a broken leg timfip right side and
Speaker 3: from working in the ring working, yes, yes, And I
Speaker 3: thought that could never happen to me. Well, it does happen,
Speaker 3: and so it was, you know, for me, a tragic accident.
Speaker 3: I thought I'm never going to wrestle ever again. Of course,
Speaker 3: I'm going to wrestle again. But when WW, I guess
Speaker 3: it was f at the time came to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: It was nineteen ninety nine, and I'd broken my leg
Speaker 3: in ninety eight, so I'd already I'd still been wrestling
Speaker 3: after glow.
Speaker 4: I was doing small independent.
Speaker 1: Shows right right, So when I do that, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the bigger state, right right, So here's the bigger.
Speaker 3: One, Rick Bassman. Rick Bassman sent me there and I
Speaker 3: told him, I'm like, Rick, I'm right in the middle
Speaker 3: of a broken leg. So I went down there and
Speaker 3: I hid my leg. I wore sweatpants. Nobody was wearing
Speaker 3: sweatpants besides me. But I just didn't want them to
Speaker 3: see the atrophy and the leg and how much I
Speaker 3: was limping. I mean, I couldn't keep the legs straight
Speaker 3: out at all. They started asking me lots of questions.
Speaker 3: Jim Ross was down there, and a couple of different others.
Speaker 3: Who's your trainer, I'm like, Manda Guerrero, Oh.
Speaker 8: And they're writing down notes. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 8: they like me. I have to tell them right now
Speaker 8: I have a broken leg. Then I never heard of
Speaker 8: them again. However, friends oh no. But let me tell
Speaker 8: you something.
Speaker 3: At that time, I've been working for four years straight
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to be a regular twenty year old,
Speaker 3: not having these curfews and to wrestle. I wanted a
Speaker 3: boyfriend and to do the stuff that I was missing
Speaker 3: in my twenties.
Speaker 4: And so I was like, screw this, I just want.
Speaker 3: To live life. I want to party with my friends. Now.
Speaker 3: Do I regret that? Yes? And no. So I was
Speaker 3: in the mindset like that's okay. When I'm ready, I'll
Speaker 3: go back. But I never was really ready to go.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't fathom that. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Maybe I was afraid.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It could have been afraid, or it could have been
Speaker 2: like being on the road constantly, like the back in
Speaker 2: the back of your head. Too.
Speaker 3: Yes, that did, because here I am trying to maintain
Speaker 3: or get a relationship. I'm like, it's never going to
Speaker 3: work if I'm on the road. Now.
Speaker 4: Later on, my.
Speaker 3: Sweetheart that I've been with for twenty two years, he's
Speaker 3: music entertainment and I'm sports and it works perfectly.
Speaker 4: But my mind was not there yet then.
Speaker 3: Too immature, too young. Plus if I would have had
Speaker 3: someone really to say, hey, you can do this, this
Speaker 3: and that. Why are you not doing that? It would
Speaker 3: have been nice to have a mentor back then to say, well,
Speaker 3: you could do this, and you can do this and
Speaker 3: do this. I kept thinking that I would be on
Speaker 3: the road forever, forever and not be able to do
Speaker 3: the things I wanted to do.
Speaker 4: You know, But that's what I get for not.
Speaker 3: Asking questions and and moving forward that way. So I'm
Speaker 3: good with it. I'm serious, you know. Uh, I think
Speaker 3: there would have been a good opportunity for me to
Speaker 3: be there and that wow, I should.
Speaker 1: Have Well, I mean you had, yeah, your broken leg.
Speaker 3: That broken leg, that right then, and you're right. I
Speaker 3: told myself, I'm never doing this again.
Speaker 4: I was scared.
Speaker 1: Was that your first major injury that you I broke
Speaker 1: arms when I was a kid, but in wrestling, wrestling,
Speaker 1: and that was the end of your career, that's right, Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: ok yeah, bad timing girl.
Speaker 3: Even Glow Glow, you know, I look at that. They
Speaker 3: were so ahead of their time, but still the timing
Speaker 3: was not right because we didn't have these and you
Speaker 3: know ourself, we just didn't have social media, so it
Speaker 3: was a different time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what, we had no social media either.
Speaker 3: No, but the power of television wasn't that great? Yes,
Speaker 3: the power.
Speaker 2: That's all we had was TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're lucky we had that. But you know,
Speaker 3: back and glow, I don't think they really wanted us
Speaker 3: to know that we even had a fan base. Because
Speaker 3: when I went to pick up a check in season
Speaker 3: three and four, this is when I was going back
Speaker 3: and forth, they allowed me to go home and then
Speaker 3: come back to Vegas to do the show. I saw
Speaker 3: a bag of mail, bags of it, and I said,
Speaker 3: who's that mal for and our and our secretary Jackie goes, oh,
Speaker 3: that's your guys' mail, like a what why are we
Speaker 3: not getting it? We never even got to see the mail.
Speaker 4: I pulled as much bail out of there as I could.
Speaker 2: Why would they not let you see fan mail?
Speaker 3: Probably didn't want it to go to our head. I mean,
Speaker 3: they had a different way of thinking back then, and it.
Speaker 1: Kind of didn't that suck Yeah then, I mean you
Speaker 1: would think it would motivate you guys, like people are like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there was a.
Speaker 3: Lot of negative sense. Being a heel as you know,
Speaker 3: Oh god, I was reading some of those people, They're like,
Speaker 3: you don't know how it is to be in a fight.
Speaker 3: I'll come over there and kick like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: Well that just meant you were doing your job well exactly, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But back.
Speaker 4: Then you didn't know either.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, how do I react to that?
Speaker 1: You know, did you watch the glow show that they
Speaker 1: wad a couple of years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes, yes, what did you think that?
Speaker 2: How how accurate was that to the actual product?
Speaker 3: It is not a cookie cutter of okay show so much,
Speaker 3: but to bring back something and some things are right
Speaker 3: on and some things are not. But I thought to myself, well,
Speaker 3: anything that promotes our show, unbelievable. It brought us back
Speaker 3: into the spotlight. We were honored at CAC I think
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen at the Califlara Alley Club. The whole
Speaker 3: night was ours and that was just that was really sweet.
Speaker 3: The conventions that I've been doing after that, like La
Speaker 3: Comic Con We've done ten years in a row, Rhode
Speaker 3: Island Comic Kan, and some of the wrestling ones Big
Speaker 3: Event uh Rust. The cool thing is you'll get people
Speaker 3: coming up that are younger and either some will go oh,
Speaker 3: I love the show, and I look at them, I'm like, are.
Speaker 4: You talking about Glow Netflix or Glow right?
Speaker 3: When they're young? Some are so smart, but go, no,
Speaker 3: we're talking about you. We found out that there was
Speaker 3: a show that they're talking about when we looked at
Speaker 3: all the YouTube videos. So you know, you go, I've
Speaker 3: got on Glow Netflix.
Speaker 4: I did it thirty some years ago, right right, But it's.
Speaker 3: Just amazing, and it's always awesome to see our fans
Speaker 3: and new fans.
Speaker 4: As you know, by the end of the day.
Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day doing one
Speaker 3: of those conventions, you're a little tired. You've smiled and
Speaker 3: your cheeks are hurting.
Speaker 2: You've worked your ass off getting up.
Speaker 3: And it depends too on the promoters. Because I also
Speaker 3: did a video in a game video in nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: four called Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.
Speaker 9: That game became Yes, you don't even know anything about that, No,
Speaker 9: what is it? So it's a video game called Plumbers
Speaker 9: Don't Wear Ties? I talk about it in here. It
Speaker 9: was on a platform called.
Speaker 3: Three D and I'm not sure what a three D
Speaker 3: O it was or it is, but anyway, all of
Speaker 3: a sudden I had this huge following, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: where are you guys reading this? Well, on YouTube, there's
Speaker 3: a guy named the Angry Video Nerve who did a
Speaker 3: whole thing on it, and I looked at it. Back
Speaker 3: then it had seven million views. Today it has over
Speaker 3: nine million views. I played the character Jane, so listen
Speaker 3: to this. So then a company called Limited Run Games
Speaker 3: on the East Coast.
Speaker 4: They reformat these video games to like, what is it,
Speaker 4: PlayStation five, all.
Speaker 3: Those different ones. So I came in for them and
Speaker 3: we did some commentary through the whole thing, and then
Speaker 3: we did a reboot of the beginning, but we didn't
Speaker 3: change anything else. This thing is the oddest thing you'll
Speaker 3: ever see in your life. It doesn't make sense. It
Speaker 3: looks like a pre present some kind of presentation show.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting. So anyway, I started doing the conventions
Speaker 3: for them. Holy, let me just say I thought wrestling
Speaker 3: was big. Oh my god, the video game industry is
Speaker 3: super huge as well. Unbelievable. These people are coming up
Speaker 3: with their three dos. By the way, the three do
Speaker 3: the original three d oh? Do you remember when CDs
Speaker 3: were box set long box set? Yeah, those those are
Speaker 3: like seven hundred dollars on eBay for that. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I signed autographs for the new format PR and they're
Speaker 3: PlayStation five and that is amazing. So I've got I've
Speaker 3: been doing those, which are super cool. It's so and
Speaker 3: it's a different genre. So people come up for they're
Speaker 3: either wrestling people or major video game and I'll look
Speaker 3: at major video game people. I'll look at some of
Speaker 3: them that are like in their twenties. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't think you were were you born? No? But I'm
Speaker 3: a huge video game, you know fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this. So this video
Speaker 2: game Plumber, what was it.
Speaker 4: Called Plumbers don't wear ties?
Speaker 2: Okay? Are you a playable character in it?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: I am a character as Hollywood or as well, the
Speaker 1: character Jane Jane Jane.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, okay, you do voiceovers and you can hear.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm just in it. There are video
Speaker 3: of me. So it's a I'm trying to trying to
Speaker 3: explain how the video works. Basically, my character's Jane Jane
Speaker 3: is getting is getting interviewed, and the player gets to
Speaker 3: choose what she does. A does she go for the
Speaker 3: interview or B does she you know, accept this or
Speaker 3: that or does she go here, go here? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So it's role playing.
Speaker 3: It's role playing. Oh then, and it's so old, that's
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you. It's just this vintage nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: four game. But first of all, you do these jobs, right,
Speaker 3: and you forget it's like a modeling job. You do
Speaker 3: a job and like, oh yeah, I did that, But
Speaker 3: then it gets popular. You're just that's crazy, right there?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yes, that's great.
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting. I forgot. I would have brought them
Speaker 3: down here. This isn't my office. My office is upstairs.
Speaker 3: But I would show you the the that was cool.
Speaker 4: So limited run games is uh.
Speaker 3: I'm always giving them kudos. I even thank them here
Speaker 3: in the book. You know what, there's a picture of it. Right.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, but am I thinking?
Speaker 2: And because that's a whole different thing. You can you
Speaker 2: can have a double career. You can do this for
Speaker 2: wrestling and the Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting. If I would have known
Speaker 3: about that before, right, I would have like went that
Speaker 3: direction too?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: See everyone who?
Speaker 1: If you are enjoying the interview so far, please tune
Speaker 1: in on Thursday for part two.
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