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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, quick disclaimer for today's interview. We are going

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Speaker 1: all of our fellow conspiracy realist So if you've got

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Speaker 1: But here's the great thing. There's so many episodes to

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Speaker 1: from TikTok, then they'll learn some new choice phrases and

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Speaker 1: words from our buddy Jeremy Corbell on today's episode. From

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Speaker 1: UFOs to Psychic Powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled

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Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn

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Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to know. A production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is all. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer,

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Speaker 1: all mission control decads. Most importantly, you are you. You

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Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this the stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. It finally happened, folks, fellow conspiracy realists.

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Speaker 1: After decades of rumors, speculation, so many reports of strange

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Speaker 1: things in the sky. The United States Congress just yesterday,

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Speaker 1: as we record, held a public hearing on Unidentified Aerial phenomenon,

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Speaker 1: which literally everybody else calls UFOs. They also held a second,

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Speaker 1: This comes on the heels of a report published about

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Speaker 1: eleven months ago. We discussed this in depth on a

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Speaker 1: previous episode, and the world has been watching to see what,

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Speaker 1: if anything Uncle Sam would disclose in that conversation. Today

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Speaker 1: we're exploring the context of this hearing, the ramifications, what

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Speaker 1: world at large. We're not diving in alone, that's right.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to welcome back today's special guest, a good

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Speaker 1: You've heard him called four names before, you've heard him

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Speaker 1: our good friend, the documentary and author and artist Jeremy Corbell. Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming back on the show, especially because

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Speaker 1: this is um safe to say, probably been kind of

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited to be speaking with you guys, and

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Speaker 1: I'm big fans of your show and each of what

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Speaker 1: excited to have you here. Jeremy. Uh, you know, a

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Speaker 1: text thread with Jeremy after you know, emailing back and

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Speaker 1: We we've just been anticipating that something like this would happen, right,

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Speaker 1: I think all of us, um, and every time where

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Speaker 1: Someone is going to say something in this hearing that's

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Speaker 1: hearing itself. Yeah sure, Look, I am an eternal optimist.

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Speaker 1: You know. I am accused of that on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: But for anyone who doesn't know, Jeremy has been in

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Speaker 1: being being on newscast like I was a mixed martial athlete,

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Speaker 1: want you to know Videosh, I know exactly what you mean.

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Speaker 1: Dave Foley for those of you that don't know, he's

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Speaker 1: they are at their own peril and risk oftentimes supplying

425
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Speaker 1: me with footage and documentation of one of the greatest

426
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: mysteries that we have, which is the the UFO mystery.

427
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: So that's the process and that stigma. And there was

428
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: one last question, which is physical. Let's let's go into

429
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, did you ever feel that you were

430
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: maybe in physical danger or were you ever did anybody

431
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: exercise intimidation tactics or something that's That's something a lot

432
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: of our audience is curious about. Well, while I'm clumsy,

433
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: so I'm always worried about physical danger and my wife

434
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: is my alien overlord boss, and it's threatening me constantly

435
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: for the reason because I should be UM. Other than that, no, man,

436
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I have always been assisted, never resisted when it comes

437
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: to the military process. Like you know, people want there's

438
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: a numerous people that want this information public too. I

439
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: just want to make sure I'm on the right side

440
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: of the law. I'm dealing with sensitive information. If if

441
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: I get footage you know, there was filmed by an

442
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: agency UM in an active war zone that might show

443
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: capability on our side or even optics uh capability. UM.

444
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: I need to make sure I don't want to hurt

445
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: I have no reason to try to harm the United

446
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: States and what they're doing in the Department Offense. So

447
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: I've tried to be as transparent as possible without revealing

448
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: sources to the mechanisms of government that would like to

449
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: know about this. I actually send a lot of what

450
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: I get. Um Well, that sounded weird. I don't just

451
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: send it. I inform our UH Department of Defense of

452
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: things that I'm going to release once it's for sure

453
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: going to be released, and I make sure that there's

454
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: nothing I don't know about that. And usually they're grateful.

455
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: They're you know, caught ruffle some feathers because why do

456
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I have it and they don't but like because I

457
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: should be obsolete, because the process should be better for people,

458
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: and they understand that I understand that I'm fighting to

459
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: try to get an immunity process set up so when

460
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: George and I put stuff out, you know, it doesn't

461
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: hurt national security, and there's immunity for people because they

462
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: can go on a hunt. But I'm pretty good to

463
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: cover my tracks. So that's I've never been threatened, not

464
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: a day of my life, not by not by military

465
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: government people, I mean by individuals every day people are crazy.

466
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: What can you do? Right? But but not by our military.

467
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: To answer your question directly, no, no, I've never felt

468
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: any kind. They did an investigation into my sources and

469
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: Georgia's sources, and I get that I would do the

470
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: same thing, but no, never, never a threat. Everyone. I think, Yeah,

471
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: that congratulations, Um, yeah, because it's I mean, I don't know,

472
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: it does seem it does seem dangerous. I think just

473
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: from this end, when you talked about you know, high

474
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: ranking officers, low ranking officers who are stationed, you know,

475
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: for the Navy on let's say, a destroyer like the

476
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: Russell of the nimits, people who are actually filming footage

477
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: through whatever mechanism they're using, you know, on on one

478
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: of those destroyers, on one of those battleships like the

479
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Amaha and the Russell and two nineteens specifically, is what

480
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: would reference closest to what you're saying. Yeah, exactly, So

481
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean this is military personnel. Um. I think that

482
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: just over the conversations that we've had on the show

483
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, it has really been that, uh,

484
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: that has been the difference a military personnel shot footage

485
00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: that we can now see and the Pentagon confirms, Yes, yes,

486
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: the Pentagon confirms that this is footage of unknown you know,

487
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: something of unknown origin, or at least do you want

488
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: to know what happened after that last release? By the way,

489
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I think people I don't think people know this, so

490
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: this is like in the minut show. But why did

491
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the Pentagon confirm the first three videos and all that.

492
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I think it was six photos that George and App

493
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: and I released, and then on that last one it

494
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: was like the least impressive visually, but it's like dark

495
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: and there's these little lights over it, which is, by

496
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: the way, a really important piece of footage. I'll explain why.

497
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Why did the Pentagon say we can't comment. That was

498
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: what they said in the official foyas and when people

499
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: emailed why on that one after that huge run of

500
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: releasing stuff where they're like, yep, that's real, Yep, that's real.

501
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I made sure they were in

502
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: a position to know that they did it was true

503
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: before I ulickly released them with all the other footage.

504
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: There was a policy shift that was a reaction the

505
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: moment George, Nap and I kind of were on a

506
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: roll with these and I will tell you're gonna have

507
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: to take my word for it, but I think there

508
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: is documentation of it. They changed policy when they saw

509
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: what was going on with the content, the corroborative video

510
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: evidence that we released me and George and now any U.

511
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, but any u A

512
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: p footage is designated all caps secret, non share, even

513
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: with allies. So so they tried to boom put a

514
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: stop to the leaks at that moment, and they they

515
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: the word I can't comment on that last piece, which

516
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: is deck footage from the US is Omaha. So that's

517
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: why that happened. That's what's in place now. What they

518
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: did not anticipate that tenfolded people reaching out to me,

519
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: it's unfolded. It can you describe that for just a

520
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: little more so people listening can look it up and

521
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: find it. Sure. So I think the important part is

522
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: if you go to like my Instagram, because that's why

523
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: I dropped everything first, which is just at Jeremy Corbell.

524
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: You can see with all the description right, you can

525
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: see exactly the details that are factual and I know

526
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: for sure. And then I put out in pread a

527
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: proof of the footage. I'm talking about the last piece

528
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: in that four video set of footage, there's three pieces

529
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: of evidence from the uss Omaha specifically, with the fourth

530
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: wage is a green pyramid from the U S. S. Russell,

531
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: all the same event in two thousand nineteen off the

532
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: coast California. Out of the four pieces of footage, you

533
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: have flear forward looking in for red, which is thermal

534
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: video of an object that appears to descend into the

535
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: water that are military I thought was trans medium and

536
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: they set a submarine to try to go after either

537
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: wreckage or the craft itself. Then I provided radar footage

538
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: and this is actual radar from the U S. S

539
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: oh Maha of these unidentified swarming that Navy warship and wow,

540
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: moving damn fast if you listen to to what is

541
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: said in there. And then of course I released the

542
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: So there's three pieces of footage there. I released the

543
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: deck footage. It's called and it just looks like inky

544
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: black darkness, right and it's just got these lights. But

545
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: why that last piece of corroborative video evidence is important

546
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: because this is as a kid, what I always wanted

547
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: was military film from multiple angles, different sensor platforms. And

548
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: then official class formerly classified now non classified documents because

549
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I released it, which is that one slide from us

550
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that is evidence man, And so all of that together,

551
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: that last piece of footage, what people will see is

552
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: this inky blackness and these kind of like amber red

553
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: looking lights. But what's important is that that excludes glitches

554
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: within the radar systems. That these were light, they were powered,

555
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: they were crafts. So each thing together adds a piece

556
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: to the puzzles. So you just look at this kind

557
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: of keep blackness with lights. But that piece of footage

558
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: was so important or additionally important, and it was that

559
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: was the one where they stopped us. They cut us off,

560
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: they turned off the Well, the Pentagon says, we're not

561
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: confirmed in anything else. Well, I got the entirety of

562
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: all that footage. I only gave them pieces. So there

563
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: is more. We're gonna pause here for word from our sponsor,

564
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more from Jeremy Corbell. And

565
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: we're back with more from Jeremy Corbell. I think it's

566
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: interesting being able to get in on something on the

567
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: ground floor, um that you know, maybe when you get

568
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: in on it, you don't even know it's the ground floor.

569
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Yet it's just something that you're interested in, and it

570
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really even exist in a way that ultimately will

571
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: I think about that in terms of podcasting, we were

572
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: very lucky that we had a podcast when they were

573
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like ten podcasts, So it's not the best comparison. But

574
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: you've been asking these questions and dealing with that stigma

575
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: for years. I mean, we have to you very specifically

576
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: around this discipline these types of questions. How does it

577
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: feel to I mean, is it is it a kind

578
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: of vindication? And how does it empower you to move forward?

579
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: To have a member of Congress more or less apologize

580
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this stigma has essentially, you know, created

581
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: an environment where pilots don't want to report things that

582
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: could actually be helpful and valuable because at the end

583
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: of the day, the justification is all about national security.

584
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: That's what this is all wrapped up, and it's not

585
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: necessarily about you know, wanting to believe in and maybe

586
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: the ways that we look at it. It's all wrapped

587
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: up in this idea of how do we protect our country?

588
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: And that's the only way they can really kind of

589
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, package it in a way that they can stomach.

590
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: But um to say that, you know, openly a member

591
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: of government to say this was a real thing, this stigma,

592
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: and it potentially caused how how god knows how many

593
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: um legitimate reports to go unreported. How do you feel

594
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: about that? How does it feel to have been on

595
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: the ground floor of that asking these questions? And now

596
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: it's almost like the doors are wide open? Well, well

597
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: the door, we got our toe in the door. Let's

598
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: not get over. There's a there's a toe, there's a

599
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: there's a doorstopper. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna kick it

600
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: the funk wide open. I mean, I can promise you

601
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: that everything I've said I've done in this field and

602
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: everything else I've done in life, I've said it, I've

603
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: done it. I'm telling you I'm gonna kick that door

604
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: open wider than you can imagine. I mean, I got

605
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: footage I'm gonna I'm gonna release. I just need to

606
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: make sure we're gonna get in trouble. But your question

607
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: was like a vindication, Like how do you feel? I

608
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: think that was your question? Yeah, kind of just me like,

609
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, how do you feel, even like for these

610
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: folks that maybe did take the plunge and report these things,

611
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, some of the footage indication everybody for everyone.

612
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So so vindication is when somebody

613
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: feels that people didn't believe them and they were telling

614
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: the truth, and then all of a sudden people realized

615
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: they were telling the truth. So the only people that

616
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: feel vindication are people that are insecure about what other

617
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: people think about what they're saying. I think it's great

618
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: that the public is catching up that, you know, they've

619
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: been four cents short of a nickel when it comes

620
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: to UFOs, and it wasn't even their own fault, man,

621
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: it's because they're all the stigma and kind of what

622
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: people have been told they're supposed to understand and believe

623
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: about UFOs. It literally wasn't the fault of public knowledge

624
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: that that it was like this gap of reality and

625
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: what was believed or thought about. So vindication itself, I

626
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: think it's a waste of time, man. I think I'm

627
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: too busy moving forward. I'm very happy for people that

628
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: feel vindicated because they needed that. I think the pilots,

629
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: I think it is a big deal for because it

630
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: was actually functional vindication, and that's a different thing. It

631
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: was functional vindication, So some pilots they could have their

632
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: wings taken, their entire career, their dreams, their hopes, their

633
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: desires for the future gone because people think they're not

634
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: wrapped so tight because they report they saw something. But

635
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: now with all the radar and collective accumulative AI technology

636
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: that links all the radars together with incredible systems such

637
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: as the spy one that can reach eighty thou feet,

638
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's like all of a sudden vindication for

639
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: those people, those American heroes that some of them engage dufos,

640
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: many of them, and this is something Congress led about

641
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: many of them. We have fired upon these unidentified by

642
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: the way. So so for these people, I am so

643
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: happy for them. For me personally, all I care about

644
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: is that my puppy loves me, my wife and my

645
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: family doesn't think I'm too out of this world, you

646
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean when it comes to my passion

647
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: about this thing. And I guess when I say kicked

648
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: the door open, I'm specifically referring to people that maybe

649
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: would have not reported seeing these things. People with That's

650
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know that that's a

651
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: huge deal. So let's address up for just thirty I

652
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: can sear um what we're seeing now is permission being given,

653
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: not yet the process to do it, but the permission

654
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: being given to say, hey, okay, I had a near miss.

655
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: Hey I saw this thing. Hey what should I fire

656
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: on this? What's going on? Should we communicate? Should I

657
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: send out a district you know, a signal? What's going on?

658
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: So what you said all is really important. We have

659
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: now got to the point where we're destigmatizing it just

660
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: one degree. It was one hundred and four degrees. Now

661
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: it's a hundred and maybe two degrees. We're bringing down

662
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: the temperature so people can report this ship. Right, And

663
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: that is so important, not just for national security, but

664
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 1: because people hold these secrets. And that is to hold

665
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: a secret like that is um it impairs your your

666
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: your health, and that's something you know what. What's really

667
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: standing out to me in this conversation, and as I'm

668
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: just keeping some notes here is I think it is

669
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: incredibly important. I would even say mission critical, uh, for

670
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: for you and George Knapp to be actively constructing a

671
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: process like this right that uh, first make sure that

672
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: it's not in like publication, is not endangering anyone, and

673
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: then secondly that anonymity is possible and I wanna thank

674
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: you for that. We've got a lot of we have

675
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans in the audience today. Uh, and

676
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: it is a statistical certitude, dude, that several of them

677
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: have probably seen some things and they haven't they haven't

678
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: felt like, uh, they would be able to report it

679
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: without there being some sort of possible consequence, like you said,

680
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: functional validation. People's careers are on the line, and it's

681
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: not easy to become a pilot, right, I mean that's

682
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: just true. Well, and it's not just pilots. And look,

683
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: you said two things, you know, you said the national security,

684
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: but then anonymity. But here's the deal. Fuck anonymity. A

685
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of these people their active duty right now, have

686
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: actually gone on record with me, recorded so that and

687
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: they trust me, and I can release that after they're out.

688
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: But what what we're trying to do is make sure

689
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: that they we can put that they're okay talking about it,

690
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: but they're just not the The repercussions could be horrible.

691
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure there's an immunity there

692
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: so they can know anonymity. They want to they want

693
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: to tell you what they saw, even if it's closed

694
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: door briefings with Congress and not like on the news

695
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: or something with me. That's what I'm fighting for is

696
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: immunity for people to actually come forward because they want

697
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: to like the U. S. S. Russell and the whole

698
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: like you know, swamp gas. Uh you know, Oh, just

699
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't know the word they use, like a fake

700
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: aperture thing, you know, all the idiot de Congress like

701
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: they don't know, they don't know what I know. They

702
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know what they know. And that was that was

703
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: a side shows podcasting. So here's the deal. Like, I

704
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: have witnesses from that event. Now they're active, I've documented

705
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: with them. I want to be able to put that

706
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: out and I want them to be able to come forward,

707
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: but we need something in process in order to be

708
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah, and that's uh, that's I

709
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: think a key point and it's a game changer and

710
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: it's something that has to occur, that has to exist

711
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: right to move this exploration further. Along with that, I

712
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: know we have a lot of a lot of stuff

713
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: to discuss, but I would just love to get briefly

714
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: your hot take, if hot it is, on on that

715
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: on the public hearing in Congress yesterday where you showed

716
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: up in name, and then also maybe maybe a little

717
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: speculation about the second closed door hearing just like it

718
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: was there anything different. So so any any take you

719
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: get right now on the hearing is going to be

720
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: a hot take because it just happened. I gotta watch

721
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Man, when it was going on,

722
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I had, you know, forty thousand things pinging in my

723
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: head and my mom on my phone. So my hot

724
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: take on it right like, kind of what I thought

725
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: was like, kind of big is what you're saying at

726
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: that moment? Specifics? Is that what you want? Okay? I mean,

727
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: other than it was really amazing and important, and it

728
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: was the start. It was the benchmark that that I

729
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: happen to know. And I am telling you now that

730
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more and that there's going to be

731
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: direct witnesses who can speak with more education and clarity

732
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: than people that were sent there by their bosses to

733
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: protect national security. Like the top brass we did have

734
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: in front of Congress. We're gonna have people like Commander

735
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: David Favor, people like the Great lou Alesando who are

736
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: at a tip we should have Dr James Lakatski, who

737
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: ran the only funded the twenty two million UFO program

738
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: with with Dr Colm kellerher called AWESOP Advanced Aerospace Weapon

739
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: System Applications Program. That that then Luella's under grab the

740
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: reins like a warrior and and and started a TIP

741
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification pro Program, you know, and then

742
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: we go to the UAP Task Force and three different

743
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: versions of it. But but what we saw there in

744
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: that in that briefing yesterday, besides the symbolic nature and

745
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: the new UFO video, we saw that first of all,

746
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: they got a lot of catching up to do. The

747
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: congress people were exceptional. Um Congressman Gallagher was his questions

748
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: were incredibly powerful and representive. Carson, he pushed the witnesses

749
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: with his opening statement, I mean, he really set the tone,

750
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, And the point was to destigmatize the reporting

751
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: could be better and to earn back the American trust.

752
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know anything about politics or any of

753
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: their politics. All I know is what they just said

754
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: about UFOs and this, and about secrecy, about secrecy and

755
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: over classification in general. So my hot take is that yes,

756
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: there were so lies. There was some obfuscation, there's just

757
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: we don't know. They were ignorant on certain things. And

758
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: also those two guys, I would have a lot of

759
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: other people up there. But it was good we did it,

760
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: and they're having a closed door briefing afterwards because of classification.

761
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: And notice every time that they said we're gonna have

762
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: to do that in the closed door briefing after that

763
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: is because there's information that they can answer, but only

764
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: under so there's some yes, is there you should have

765
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: paid attention to, So you know, have UFOs altered our

766
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: technological capabilities or methods right in warfare? Save that for

767
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: the closed briefings. That's what he said, right, Um, you

768
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: know they were wrong or lying or office skating or

769
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: not informed when they asked about like basically UFO crashes

770
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: or materials that's provable, that's verifiable, and more of that's

771
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: coming out and they were wrong or lied. So yeah,

772
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: we do have I'll say to be very conservative materials

773
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: associated with UFOs. Um someone other than me, Robert Bigelow

774
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: who ran who who you know, was a big part

775
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: of the UFO whole, you know thing with the government

776
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: specifically said we have machinery, So machineries like mechanisms that

777
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: work together. I'll go one step further. Whether you believe

778
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: him or not, Bob Bazaar is telling you straight exactly

779
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: what happened to him. We have craft and there's documentation

780
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: that I think George Knapp and I will be exposing

781
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: from Russia. The clearly state that there are exploitation or

782
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: reverse engineering programs. So from that hearing, those are some

783
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: of the things that they said that you should pay

784
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: attention to. Um. You know they admitted that uf mimits

785
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: was a UFO event. Well we all knew that. Um,

786
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: they were. They committed to sharing like more national things

787
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: that cases that didn't deal with national security. I don't know, man.

788
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: My hot take, the big the big hot take is this.

789
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm ranting him. The big hot take is this.

790
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: They fucked up when it came to talking about the

791
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: video I released with the pyer, the green pyramid shaped

792
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: triangle by angle of observation night vision footage from the

793
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: U S. S. Russell. That's cool. They fucking lied about it.

794
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: But that's okay because I'll be able to prove that wrong.

795
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: Hold the phone. Let's take a quick pause. We'll come

796
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: back to this. Put a pen and be back with

797
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: more fascinating discussion with Jeremy Corbell. And we've returned. All right,

798
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: well let's get into it. So one of the main

799
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: arguments that I've seen about that specific video footage of

800
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: the green pyramids green triangles, it is it would be

801
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: a pyramid and not triangle. It doesn't matter. The seagulls

802
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: the light strapped onto them, they're unknowns that we should

803
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: we should know what to deal what to do with

804
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: them as a military By the way, it doesn't really matter.

805
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, it doesn't really matter. But maybe

806
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: some of you have seen this, or maybe you have

807
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: maybe you haven't seen this, or you've heard something. So

808
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, Jeremy, you comments on

809
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: it and we get that from you rather than just

810
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: hearsay that people find on the internet. There's one person

811
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: speaking out about this that as I've seen him in

812
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: the New York Post and a couple other places, uh,

813
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: an author named Mick Mick West, and he's just put

814
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: forward that you know, he's a skeptic. And again I

815
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: think you should everyone should be just as Jeremy stated,

816
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: you are, be skeptical about the stuff, but make sure

817
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: you think about everything, look at every angle, don't just

818
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: take you know, the skeptical stance and throw things out

819
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: the window. But and that's I don't think that's what

820
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Mick is doing because just saying like it, I think

821
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Akham's razor is that these are planes as footage of planes.

822
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: The reason why they look like pyramids is because of

823
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: the aperture of the camera that was taking the footage,

824
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: and it's night vision, so they appeared that green color, um,

825
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: and they've got flashing lights that appear to be what

826
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: a you know, a plane would have the warring stands

827
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: looking at it from outside. That that would be all

828
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: comes razor on that specific event. However, you know, you

829
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: bring up kind of something that's more of a dizzy.

830
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: It's more of a mental disease, because you have to

831
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: look at the history of people's work and how they're bias, um,

832
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: how they're always continuously trying to not not just analyze it,

833
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: but prove the mundane no matter how insane it is.

834
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: So in general, let's just take let's talk about it generally,

835
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: but that let's take one specific case, um that this

836
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: has been done to write. So that's like that's de

837
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: bunking rather than I'm a skeptic too. That's the thing. People.

838
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: People might not appreciate how much I've had things work

839
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: that I have to do and what I do do

840
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: before I put anything out, because everybody wants to catch

841
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: me in a mistake. You know, if I ever made

842
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: a mistake, oh man, everybody makes mistakes. I'll make it.

843
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I'll admit I made a mistake. It just hasn't happened

844
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: yet with this now. Now if that does happen, oh man,

845
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: no problem. We're all human. As I told you, I'm clumsy.

846
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: If I make a mistake, physically clumsy, not mentally clumsy.

847
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: You know the no problem. You know, I admit that.

848
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: But let me give you a specific example of something

849
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: you're You're being very I don't know nice in the

850
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: way you describe this skepticism thing. There's a difference between

851
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: being skeptical and having an intent to debunk with a

852
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: predetermined outcome. And that's where it's virus. This mental It

853
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: really is a mental illness we're seeing with people like this,

854
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying

855
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: to give you a specific example. So here we go.

856
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: The TikTok youf o case, what is alcomes razor? Is

857
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: all coomes razor the most mundane explanation or is it

858
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: kind of the most direct and obvious. I mean, I

859
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the definition, but I'm pre be sure

860
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: it says in the dictionary akoms raised not the most

861
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: mundane is the answer, right. So, if you believe and

862
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: as a matter of belief, because we're not there, if

863
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: you believe the military pilots, if you believe the radar systems,

864
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: if you believe the investigation that went on for years

865
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: and actually multiple investigations from intelligence agencies, one of which

866
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: George not made public. If you believe that stuff, then

867
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: alcams Raser says, the pilots saw what they said they saw,

868
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: the radars picked up what they appeared to pick up,

869
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: and everything occurred on that day precisely as it has

870
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: been described. That this is not pilot air, this is

871
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: not radar glitches, that these were physical objects. And then

872
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: there's the stuff they don't want you to know, which

873
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: is that we have other optics systems that I can't

874
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: confirm nor deny that I am privy to, that we're

875
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: able to capture these same series of events with the

876
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: tik Tak youfo. But now because you mentioned all comes raising,

877
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned some of the people that have this what

878
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: I would call mental illness, right and not and again

879
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: not to be mean, this is not maybe I should

880
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: choose a different word, but like it's like a like

881
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: a virus when they want to prove their world view.

882
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: If you were to believe these known debunkers, not even skeptics,

883
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: here's what you would need to believe about the tik

884
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Tak you fo case. This is a conspiracy theory. It

885
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: is a mental gymnastics worthy of a gold medal. You

886
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: have multiple pilots in air, all testifying to having seen

887
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: the same thing, not a glare in the windshield, not

888
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: a glitter on their radar, optically see the same thing

889
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: trained fighter pilots. So now you're talking about you'd have

890
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: to believe not only one person had mental delusion, but

891
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: that mental delusion was commonly shared at the exact same

892
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: moment with multiple other pilots and and called copilots or

893
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: backseaters or weapons systems operators. So now just follow me

894
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: to two all comes razor these debunkers. You have to

895
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: start by believing that one pilot had a massive mental delusion,

896
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: and that that mass, massive personal mental delusion was then

897
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: shared by multiple other trained fire plots at the exact

898
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: same time, the exact same place, seeing the exact same thing.

899
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: But let's just start beginning there now. Now you have

900
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: to also believe that our ground radar systems saw the

901
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: mental delusion that all these pilots were sharing. Then you

902
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: have to believe that our air radar systems we're starting

903
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: to share that mental delusion. And then the systems the

904
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: stuff that don't want you to know that also we're

905
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: able to capture these tic tac u FO event series

906
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: was sharing that delusion through its AI and and pinging

907
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: it to everybody else. And then you have to say

908
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: everybody's that at their job, and that they didn't investigate

909
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: it right, and that there's and the footage, the footage

910
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: of it. I guess the mental delusion got caught up

911
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: on visual as well. So so just to drive this

912
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: point home, all comes fucking razor is that you shouldn't

913
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: be listening to debunkers who try to impose upon you

914
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: these series of absolute absurdities. I'm sorry, I'm done with it.

915
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't have time for this. I have time for

916
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: people who are skeptical who want to know the truth,

917
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: not for people that go out their way to convince

918
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: the public of a false narrative for clout and to

919
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: get on TV shows. It's bullshit, and it's straight up,

920
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: it's fucking bullshit. And here's the deal, man, it doesn't

921
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: matter anyway. People got to make up their own minds.

922
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: But that bullshit then translates over to things like what

923
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: we're seeing at the at the at the panic, what

924
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: we're seeing that Congress the other day. You know, where

925
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: did they get this outside analysis there? But by the way,

926
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: I know the people that wrote those reports, I know

927
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: the people that that actually dealt with defining these things

928
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: as quote drones. I know why they define them as drones,

929
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: and in fact I have eyewitnesses. So somebody's sitting as

930
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: a keyboard warrior behind their keyboard, you know, doing analysis

931
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: and thinking that everybody else is stupid and wrong and delusional,

932
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: even the AI and the technology except them, I mean

933
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: all comes Razers says, you should probably ignore them a

934
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: little bit because you're filling your mind with a ton

935
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: of fucking bullshit. Bullshit. Here's my problem, Jeremy, I went

936
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: to school for I went to school for video. There's

937
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: a video camera back here, Like, that's what I learned

938
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: in college. What what make is saying about an aperture

939
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: and the way light would reflect off that lens as

940
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: it's going through is not wrong, right, So that's the problem.

941
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: That's the problem for me is trying trying to be

942
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: skeptical about it enough to where I don't feel gullible

943
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: right right now and look and it's not wrong, dude.

944
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: But what I'm what I'm saying is when we're when

945
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: we're looking at anything like this, including the tic TAC

946
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: or you know, the pyramid footage or anything, it's amazing

947
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: that there are multiple points or multiple ways to confirm,

948
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: like you're saying, using ground radar and other pilots, co

949
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: pilots who are seeing other people who on the ground

950
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: you're seeing it. What what what makes my mind real

951
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: a little bit is that you've got Ronald Moultrie who

952
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: came on during yesterday's thing and specifically with stating that

953
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: one of the biggest roadblocks they're dealing with is communication

954
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: between different military groups and a lack of communication and

955
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: also a lack of data, a lack of backup data.

956
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: Basically other ways to look at a single event, which

957
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: blows my mind because there is so much surveillance that's

958
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: going on at all times. When one of these events

959
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: occurs um and they want they wanted to they want it.

960
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: The Navy wants it from the n s A, the

961
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: n s A wants it from Geospatial. Geospatial wants it

962
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: from c I A, CIA wants it from you know,

963
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: d I. It's insane. Yeah, it's a problem, But what's

964
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: your map? What's your point? My point is you're you're

965
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: saying that we've got all this wis like just going

966
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: back to the n emits or you know, going back

967
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: to the TI the tik tac. We've got all of

968
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: these points of data on that one thing, right, But

969
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: then the person who's running this program that's supposed to

970
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: be looking at it is coming forward and saying we

971
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: don't have enough data for a lot of these things,

972
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: which just boggles my mind. I don't understand, right, So,

973
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: so this is a huge problem, and I totally get it.

974
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: So you have to understand the people that were there testifying.

975
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: They're like the top dogs that run stuff. They don't

976
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: get into day by day. They didn't do the reports.

977
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that bray that you know ahead of

978
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: the Navy, you know, or whatever he is officially, I

979
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: guarantee I saw too. They were totally uninformed about the

980
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: nuclear tempering with historically by UFOs. And I know a

981
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: lot of people involved the generated those reports and ran

982
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: those programs. And and here's the issue. You got a

983
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: top grass guy like that come forward hit first of

984
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: all his hubrists, like he doesn't want to admit he

985
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: hasn't been read into stuff thrown in there, told to

986
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: go in there. I guarantee you he has not read

987
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: the the massive report in the d i A on

988
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: the tic tac UFO with direct witnesses and what they

989
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: saw and all this stuff. So what does he go

990
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: on too, like Twitter and listen to these debunkers and say,

991
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: oh that looks kind of smart, especially about the U. S. S. Russething.

992
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he must have. Oh yeah, you can. You

993
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: can make something look green and triangular, just like you

994
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: can hold an orange and say hey that's circular. But

995
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: like do they not know anyway? So that I'm sharing

996
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: your annoyance. But there is a path forward, and yes,

997
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: your day, we began that path forward and there's a

998
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: lot happening behind the scenes that that I can tell

999
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: you for sure that that path is moving where people

1000
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: are fighting fucking hard, man, and it's happening. So we

1001
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: don't got to get into the green pyramid thing. I'm

1002
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something in the next seven days that

1003
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: will fucking fuck that ship up to begin with. But

1004
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: like that's not that's not the point right now, right

1005
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: So I only bring that up, Jeremy, because I think

1006
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: so many people are fascinated by this, right, Like so

1007
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: many people are listening right now that that have that

1008
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: feeling if I want to believe, which is what I share, right,

1009
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to be a sucker, man,

1010
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: And I know you feel that way. I know everybody

1011
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: feels that way. So that's why you work so hard

1012
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: at trying to like discover this stuff. I think it's

1013
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: just difficult to do what you do, and to do

1014
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: now what we're all doing and just analyzing the stuff

1015
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: on our own and making our own decision about what

1016
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: is what is real and what is not. You don't

1017
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: don't be a sucker, mat don't be a sucker, but

1018
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: but don't dismiss like these debunkers you mentioned. Don't dismiss

1019
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: all the evidence because you don't want to be a sucker.

1020
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: You don't have to choose a side. Just look at

1021
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: it all and don't believe everything you hear because somebody

1022
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: says it right, just because somebody says, um, you know,

1023
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: Jeremy said it's Pyramid, and you know he's you know,

1024
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what they say like you know, don't don't,

1025
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in the negativity. Just look at

1026
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: everything soberly and don't be a sucker. Everything should be questioned.

1027
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: I am very open to the idea that I could

1028
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: be supplied false information to propagate, to to make everybody

1029
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: be a sucker, especially me, to discredit me. I have

1030
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: thought so hard to make sure that that that has

1031
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: not the case. Verified it. That's why George Nappo I

1032
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: worked so well together, because we have different sources. So

1033
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: sure one day I could funk up, and if I do,

1034
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: I will admit it and say, please forgive me, don't

1035
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: give up on me. I'm passionate about this, so don't

1036
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: worry about it. I don't. No one's going to be

1037
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: a sucker here. But what we're gonna do is we're

1038
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: not gonna close our minds off because we're fearful of

1039
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: what people will think of us. Man, let's move let's

1040
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: move forward and do our best. One response I would

1041
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: have to that is something I've said before in the past.

1042
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: There is a difference between skepticism rational thinking, right and

1043
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: and practicing uh, the calculus of assumptions and mental parkour

1044
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: that must be involved to arrive at someone's confirmation bias.

1045
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: But I would say there's a difference between being skeptic,

1046
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: being skeptical, which all people should, and sort of fetishizing

1047
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: your idea of skepticism, right. Uh, And that's very different

1048
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: from thinking rationally. Unfortunately, that's the case if you identify

1049
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: that you are a skeptic, you're fetishizing it rather than

1050
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: you know what, yes well said. And this is this

1051
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: is exciting because when when this comes out, when this

1052
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: episode we're recording comes out, we will have been we

1053
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: will have hit the seven day mark that you're alluding

1054
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: to earlier, or we will be well on the way

1055
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: toward it. So at this time, I know we're we're

1056
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: running a little short and we're starting to wrap stuff up,

1057
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: but we want to we want to give the space

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Speaker 1: to you, Jeremy, to talk a little bit about what's

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Speaker 1: coming up in the future on your end where people

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Speaker 1: can learn more about your work. And you know, if

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Speaker 1: there's any advice you have for folks who are trying

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Speaker 1: to follow in your footsteps, I think that would be huge. Well,

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Speaker 1: my advice for people is to be as open and

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Speaker 1: curious and ask questions and and and look into stuff

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Speaker 1: and hear all sides and and don't take a position

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Speaker 1: and defend it until you're absolutely confident, and then be

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Speaker 1: willing to completely loose sight of the shore to discover

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Speaker 1: new land if you find out new evidence, and I

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Speaker 1: hope we all do that. And also just you know,

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Speaker 1: be forgiving of people. People get passionate about this, uh

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Speaker 1: you know on UFO Twitter, one of my friends Ryan,

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Speaker 1: they call him Ufo Jesus from Post Disclosure World. He

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Speaker 1: said something the other day to saying like ufology should

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Speaker 1: you know, bring us together, not not divide us. You know,

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Speaker 1: this common interest. So my my kind of suggestion to

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Speaker 1: people is, look, this is exciting, and it's exciting for

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Speaker 1: a reason, and it's because there's so many people have

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Speaker 1: experiences and it's such a part of human culture. UFOs

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Speaker 1: that that that we can relate to it, but we

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Speaker 1: have to feel kind of like accepted about it, right

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Speaker 1: or wrong. We should be able to talk to one

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Speaker 1: another with differences of opinions, should bond us for a

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Speaker 1: great conversation. Be weary, Be weary of people that define

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Speaker 1: themselves their identities as skeptics, because you already know right

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Speaker 1: there that they're not skeptical, that they've defined themselves to

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: find the prosaic. And that's dangerous. It's really dangerous for

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Speaker 1: for everybody. So so be and also be um if

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: people change their minds. Be embracing of people making mistakes

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Speaker 1: and changing their minds, even even the debunkers. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like just like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't be a dick is a great rule. The best

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Speaker 1: rule is that that's rum man um. So for me,

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Speaker 1: I think the next thing is is that I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to as accurately as I can report what I

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Speaker 1: believe to know it in the moment right now, and

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Speaker 1: to release to the world video evidence film by our military,

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Speaker 1: which I have a lot of. And I need to

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: make sure it's safe to do that on every level

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: and doesn't harm anything. And um, you know it's not everything.

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Speaker 1: It's just they're they're actual, just pieces to the puzzle.

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Speaker 1: Some of it is very impressive and some of it

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Speaker 1: you need an edge caation to understand how impressive it is.

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't release something boring. It's just a matter

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Speaker 1: of education. So you can look out for me to

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01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: hopefully be translating if I do my job well the

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Speaker 1: basics of what's going on with this topic, because I'm

1107
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: an enthusiast of this topic. I'm an investigator this topic.

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm a filmmaker. But but but most importantly, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: just a guy who has been unqualified and feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm I shouldn't be in the room when I'm in

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Speaker 1: the room a lot of time, but I'm grateful to

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Speaker 1: be there and people talk to me, and I hope

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Speaker 1: I continue to do work that is embraced and that

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Speaker 1: people enjoy it and they're entertained by it. And more

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Speaker 1: importantly that that that that it changes the way that

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Speaker 1: they engage the world around them, from their family to

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Speaker 1: their jobs, that that there's something that this passion for this,

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Speaker 1: that it changes the way that they perceive those mundane

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Speaker 1: moments in our lives where instead of being like, shit,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. You kill that inner bitch,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what, I'm gonna fucking do

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: it because life is fucking short and we don't have

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Speaker 1: that much time, and we are going to be defined

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Speaker 1: in our lifetime, not in our death, by what we

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Speaker 1: do today. And so that's kind of my advice. So

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Speaker 1: you know, look, I dropped everything on my Instagram and

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: then my Twitter, and it's very easy to find me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so easy to find. But that's where you'll see

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Speaker 1: new releases first. So go follow at Jeremy Corbel dot

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Speaker 1: com and you'll see it there. And just please say

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Speaker 1: nice things that are constructive because I don't read much

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Speaker 1: of it. But if people say bad things, I just

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Speaker 1: delete it and go away and block it. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: I just want not arguments, want arguments. Be kind to

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Speaker 1: each other. I mean in the comments, just be when

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Speaker 1: you talk. You'll learn a lot more of your kinds.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what my end messages, but weaponize your

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Speaker 1: goddamn motherfucking curiosity. And don't get me fucking wrong, I'm

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Speaker 1: serious about that. Participate. Don't be a passive consumer, be

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: an active participant in the mysteries you want solved, and

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of long form documentaries, definitely go

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Speaker 1: to Extraordinary Beliefs dot com. You should see like some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that Jeremy has on their the skin

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Speaker 1: Walker ranch one, I think we talked about previously fascinating stuff,

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Speaker 1: and the Bob Blazar documentary made just great stuff. If

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Speaker 1: you're curious about any of these topics. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I have to jump, but I appreciate you so much

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Speaker 1: and I hope we continue our thread text chain. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Jeremy. It's absolute pleasure. Again, Extraordinary Beliefs

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Speaker 1: dot Com find the Instagram, you can find the Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, folks. That was a ride, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot to unpack there. Uh, and I'm interested.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: see what some of this upcoming stuff is. You know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to the secret hearing. I love a

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Speaker 1: good tease. Well that's secret, and nothing really to talk

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Speaker 1: about except that it's secret. Obfuscated I believe was the

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Speaker 1: word that was used, which I would agree with. Well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even mentioned I think this was a big

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Speaker 1: piece of the news. You guys, remember eleven months ago

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Speaker 1: we talked about that report. It was a hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty something I think almost exactly a hundred forty incidents

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Speaker 1: that they were looking into. Right now it's at four hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's overdouble the number of individual incidents, which

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Speaker 1: is at least a good thing. I think they also said, uh,

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Speaker 1: that Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence we mentioned earlier also

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Speaker 1: is one of the people who I believe said that

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Speaker 1: they anticipate that number of incidents to go down as

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Speaker 1: they're able to explain some stuff. But right now, the

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