WEBVTT - 9 Surprising Origin Stories Behind Corporate Mascots

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what gave? What's that? Will? Do? You know it's

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<v Speaker 1>been over seventy years since Smokey Bear started saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all know this phrase, only you can prevent forest fires? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>is it really been that long? He's been at a while.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been at it a while. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd actually forgotten that it was only a few years

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<v Speaker 1>after Smokey was created that this real live bear cup

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<v Speaker 1>kind of became this living symbol of Smokey after he

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<v Speaker 1>was rescued. There had been this raging forest fire in

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, and unfortunately he was rescued and and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to those who saved him, he recovered fully and ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being moved to the National Zoo in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's where people fell in love with Smokey And

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<v Speaker 1>it was during and after his recovery they started sending

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<v Speaker 1>him letters and even gifts of honey. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is hilarious and and just really cute that so

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<v Speaker 1>many people did that. But he got so many letters

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<v Speaker 1>that he even ended up with his own zip code.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two oh two five too, that was dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to Smokey Bear. That's so great. How many letters are

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<v Speaker 1>we talking about? Though now apparently at the high of

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<v Speaker 1>Smokey popularity, we're talking thirteen thousand a week. Thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>a week. I mean, that's like Beatles level fandom is

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable. Now, Smokey lived at the National Zoo for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years before he passed away, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good life. But you know, of course, the illustrated

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<v Speaker 1>Smokey we all know from the ad campaigns lives on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've seen figures that claim Smokey is recognized by

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<v Speaker 1>as much as ninety five percent of American adults. So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the song by Steve Nelson and Jack Rollins,

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<v Speaker 1>most of us grew up knowing him as Smokey the Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, did you refer to him as Smokey

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear as a kid? Gave me to me to

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's really hard not to say that, but

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<v Speaker 1>either way, he's a pretty cool mascot. And today's show

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<v Speaker 1>is all about mascots, we thought we'd share some of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite stories behind several of the company mascots we

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with. In fact, Smokey is just the first

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<v Speaker 1>of nine, so let's dive in. Ya Hey there, podcast

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<v Speaker 1>listeners welcome, to part time genius. I'm Will Pearson and

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<v Speaker 1>today I'm joined by our good friend and researcher, Gabe Bluesier. Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going going well? Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>The man goes on vacation with his family. Hopefully he's

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<v Speaker 1>having a great time. But not to worry, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>another familiar face over there on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the soundproof glass, wearing the coolest pair of shades I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've ever seen him wear, and he's worn lots

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<v Speaker 1>of cool shades here. But you know, honestly, at first

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was just being lazy with today's theme.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really get it. But then, Gabe, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. He pulled out a snack pack of

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<v Speaker 1>Cheetos and I knew it. Yeah, sure, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees Chester the Cheetah. That's right, Chester the Cheetah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>nice job, Tristan, All right, Gabe. So I kicked this

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<v Speaker 1>off with some facts about Smokey Bear. So which mascot

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to start with? Well, I thought I'd

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<v Speaker 1>start with one of the earliest brand mascots I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of, which is actually the michelin Man who made

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<v Speaker 1>his debut in Paris way back in eight and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this guy, right, well, of course he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looks like a gooey mummy or that marshmallow Man

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<v Speaker 1>from Ghost marshmallow Man. That's what he looks. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought about. Well, I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always wondered why he was all white like

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<v Speaker 1>that because the company's founder, you know, he got the

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<v Speaker 1>idea for the character after noticing that a stack of

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<v Speaker 1>tires kind of resembled a limbless man. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if you squint so, but if that's the case, then

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<v Speaker 1>why not make him all black? Right? Well, as it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, tires weren't colored black until nineteen twelve. Before that,

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<v Speaker 1>they were either beige or gray white. So while the

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<v Speaker 1>Michelin Man might look a little off to us today,

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<v Speaker 1>his look was right on target back in the late

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century, and in fact, in December of eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>the Michelin Man got his first and only speaking engagement

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<v Speaker 1>at a Paris cycle show, and the crowd loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the company's co founders, Andre michelin He had

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<v Speaker 1>arranged for this large cardboard cutout of the character to

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<v Speaker 1>be set up at the michelin booth and then he

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<v Speaker 1>paid this cabaret comedian to crouch behind the cut out

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of banter with the crowd. Well, the performance

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<v Speaker 1>was such a hit that police actually had to come

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<v Speaker 1>break up the unruly crowd for a cardboard cutout. It

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of makes you wonder what the entertainment options

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<v Speaker 1>were at that point. You said that back in the

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<v Speaker 1>late eighteen nineties, Is that right? Yeah? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the michelin Man hasn't talked very much since

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<v Speaker 1>that event, he's had quite a lot to say in print.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because when the company launched an Italian travel

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<v Speaker 1>magazine in n seven, the michelin Man was given his

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<v Speaker 1>very own column. And as it turns out, he can

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty scary guy. Like in one article, he

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<v Speaker 1>praised his company's success while deriding his tire selling rivals

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<v Speaker 1>as quote ashen faced suitors with fixed smile, living symbols

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<v Speaker 1>of a shattered illusion. It's pretty intense, right, That is wild. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So so he ended up with a column and an

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<v Speaker 1>Italian travel magazine. That's not something I'd ever guessed. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that either. About the h the tires,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty interesting. So they used to be beije or

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<v Speaker 1>or kind of a whitish color. I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, I'm gonna actually stick with that Italian theme.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about the Italian travel magazine, So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with a different mascot with a connection to Italy

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now, I think we've talked about Tony the

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger on the show before, and the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only frost in Flakes mascot at first, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Tony had to beat out Katie the Kangaroo

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of others to become the real star

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<v Speaker 1>that he is today. But what I didn't remember was

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<v Speaker 1>that during the nineteen seventies we actually started to get

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, didn't know his family a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't realize he had a family before, and so

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<v Speaker 1>TV viewers got to meet his mother. Her name was

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Tony. His wife was also miss his Tony and

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<v Speaker 1>his son, and he guesses, I'm gonna go out on

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<v Speaker 1>a living and say, Tony Jr. I think you picked

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<v Speaker 1>up on the pattern here, Gabe and his daughter was Antoinette.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see the kind of clever connection there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was this big, happy Italian family, and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a family that was so appreciated for his heritage that

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<v Speaker 1>he appeared on the cover of the Italian edition of

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<v Speaker 1>g Q. That's Tony the Tiger on the Italian edition

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<v Speaker 1>of g Q. That's great, alright, So so what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have next for escape? All right? Well, you just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about probably one of the most likable mascots in history.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna go in the opposite direction and tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about one of the most annoying, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be none other than the Noid, the role like claymation

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<v Speaker 1>character the Domino's debut in the eighties. And if you've

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<v Speaker 1>managed to avoid the Noid so far and you've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him, he was this, uh, this creepy little guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the skin tight red onesie with these bent up

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit ears on top. And and the idea was that

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<v Speaker 1>he was a quote, a physical manifestation of all the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges inherent in getting a pizza delivered in thirteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or less. So you know, he literally put the nooied

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<v Speaker 1>in annoyed. That was the idea, And and Dominoes used

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<v Speaker 1>him in a string of commercials throughout the eighties and

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<v Speaker 1>and so this you know, obnoxious little mascot would show

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<v Speaker 1>up and crushed people's pizzas or mess up their orders,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, the character he just really took off.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, he even got his own Nintendo game

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<v Speaker 1>called Yournoid, So that's how far this went. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then things took a dark turn for the character, and

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<v Speaker 1>on January nine, a man with a revolver stormed Domino's

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza in Atlanta, Georgia and took two employees hostage. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was five hour standoff with the police and during

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<v Speaker 1>that time, the gunman actually he still he forced the

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<v Speaker 1>hostages to keep making him pizza after pizza. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare. But thankfully the two employees they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to escape unharmed and their captor was was apprehended. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the wildest part. The guy is name Lamarnoid. So

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<v Speaker 1>was this the reason that he decided to hold these

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<v Speaker 1>people hostage because of the mascot or what? Apparently, as

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<v Speaker 1>one police officer later explained, the staling had quote an

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing feud in his mind with the owner of Domino's

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza about the annoyed commercials. So apparently the whole ordeal.

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<v Speaker 1>It just came about because this guy thought Dominoes that

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<v Speaker 1>invented the nooid to personally make fun of him. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bizarre. All right. Well, the next mascot I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about might not have caused any standoffs in

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<v Speaker 1>any pizza locations or anything like that, but he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed a lot of people. Now, Gabe, you might be

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<v Speaker 1>too young for this. In fact, I kind of hope

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<v Speaker 1>for you and Tristan that you dodged this one. But

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<v Speaker 1>are you familiar with Microsoft Bob? Uh? No? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say it rings any bells. Okay, Well, consider yourself lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>because Bob was created to help people get to know

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<v Speaker 1>Windows ninety five a little bit better. And so Bob

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<v Speaker 1>would take you through his house, which was actually your computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had all the he's weird and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>creepy friends to help you along the way. There was

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<v Speaker 1>this coffee drinking lizard, there was an angry parrot, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these others. But it was actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny reading about the focus groups that were used to

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<v Speaker 1>test out Bob and all these other characters before the

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<v Speaker 1>product came out. Now, the women in the groups reported

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<v Speaker 1>that the characters were too male, and that they felt

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<v Speaker 1>a little creeped out by them, as though they were

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<v Speaker 1>actually watching them. So you know, somehow the products still

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<v Speaker 1>made it to market despite this. Oh and there's one

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<v Speaker 1>last thing, one more reason that probably a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are very angry about Bob's creation, and that's because

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<v Speaker 1>he's responsible for the typing font that's probably caused more

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<v Speaker 1>anger than any other in history, and that's Comic Sands.

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<v Speaker 1>It was apparently created just for Bob, and Bob you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not surprisingly only lasted about a year. Yeah, wow, what

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<v Speaker 1>a legacy. No kidding, all right, Gabe, So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have next? Okay, so I admit I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for an excuse to talk about one of my favorite mascots,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course is Mr Pinot. I wouldn't have guessed that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is he doesn't have that great of

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<v Speaker 1>an origin story. Like back in nineteen sixteen, the Planters

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<v Speaker 1>Company launched this contest to design a mascot for their brand.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know this this young schoolboy he submitted the

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<v Speaker 1>winning sketch and then a commercial artist added the trademark

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<v Speaker 1>top hat monocle when Kane and you know, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>standard stuff as far as origins go, right, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>kept digging, and while I didn't find much on the

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<v Speaker 1>real Mr Peanut, I did find a pretty amazing story

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<v Speaker 1>about a Mr Peanut impersonator tried to become the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Vancouver before this is true. Now, the man behind

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<v Speaker 1>this was really an artist named Vincent Trasof and he

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<v Speaker 1>considered his performance art persona of Mr Peanut to be

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<v Speaker 1>a symbol of artists. And you know there's sometimes nutty

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<v Speaker 1>ambitions and and he really went all out with this campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he wore the big bulky Mr Peanut costume, and

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<v Speaker 1>he went out on all these random public appearance is

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<v Speaker 1>and he would tap dance to pennies from Heaven. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>that was his number. But for his campaign platform, he

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<v Speaker 1>even turned Peanut into an acronym which stood for performance, elegance, art, nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>uniqueness and talent. I think I think nonsense is the

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<v Speaker 1>key part of that one there. Well, they're all hallmarks

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<v Speaker 1>of a peanut, Let's be honest. But well, tras obs

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<v Speaker 1>elect a nut for mayor. Campaign did bring international attention

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<v Speaker 1>to Vancouver's mayoral race. It was, I'm sad to say,

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<v Speaker 1>an unsuccessful bid. They ended up with a human mayor again. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't believe it. With that that brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>acronym and all that. That's a that's really surprising. All right, Well, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have stumbled into the most dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 1>family of company mascots. And this was by accident stumbling

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<v Speaker 1>into this. I had no idea that they were even

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<v Speaker 1>related before. So are you familiar with the board and

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<v Speaker 1>brand of milk? Uh? Yeah, I've seen. That's the one

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<v Speaker 1>with the cow on the front. Yes, And that cow

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<v Speaker 1>is named Elsie and she's been the scott for the

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<v Speaker 1>brand for something like eighty years now. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know is that her husband, Elmer, is the Elmer

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<v Speaker 1>of Elmer's Glue. How bizarre is this? Did you know this? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're blowing now The story gets even weirder, So hanging

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<v Speaker 1>there for just a minute. So back in the forties,

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<v Speaker 1>Elsie apparently became this really popular mascot and the company

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<v Speaker 1>decided to start this series of magazine ads and they

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<v Speaker 1>were a bit more like comics, and the whole purpose

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<v Speaker 1>was to just make her more of a household name,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the comics you'd get to know her. You

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<v Speaker 1>get to know her family, and that included her incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>grumpy husband Elmer. And grumpy is actually an understatement here.

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<v Speaker 1>So in every single one of these comics, Elmer was

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<v Speaker 1>ticked off, sometimes waving guns, other times screaming, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them he accused Elsie of things like regretting being

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<v Speaker 1>married to him. You wonder about these people in these

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<v Speaker 1>marketing meetings and you know, coming up with the ideas

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<v Speaker 1>of what their mascots are going to do, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just think, why did this take a turn in this direction?

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, of course, later for some reason, when Borden

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<v Speaker 1>decided to launch a brand of glue, they decided that

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<v Speaker 1>who else should be their mascot but Elmer, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he was able to pull it together enough to

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<v Speaker 1>pose for the illustration. But seriously, it's worth looking at

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<v Speaker 1>these comics because they are that bizarre. Yeah, no kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious, like, why would dairy companies start making

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<v Speaker 1>glue in the first place? Like what's the connection there? Oh? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the whole like glue factory thing? Like was

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<v Speaker 1>it the hoops? That's pretty dark? That would that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good guess, but it would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>case and at that point, and that that's the protein

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<v Speaker 1>and dairy milk. Of course, today the glue is made

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<v Speaker 1>with synthetic materials. Nothing involving the cows at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, but yeah, that's where it all came from.

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<v Speaker 1>So just the bizarre story and stumbling into that one

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun. All right, Well, we each

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<v Speaker 1>have one more fact to go, but before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to those, let's take a quick break. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Part Time Genius where we're talking company Mascot's all right, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>we each have one fact to go. What's your last

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<v Speaker 1>one for the day. Well, you just told us about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the disgruntled bull Elmer, and I actually went

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<v Speaker 1>with another four legged mascot who's kicked up his share

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<v Speaker 1>of controversy over the years as well, and that's Joe Cammell.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, of course the character has always taken

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of heat for, you know, being a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>blatant attempt to get children interested in smoking. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, as a kid, I was more confused

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<v Speaker 1>by Joe Cammell than anything else. Like, I've didn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why a product for adults would use a cartoon character.

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<v Speaker 1>But more than that, I didn't understand why anyone would

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<v Speaker 1>think a camel was cool in the first place, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in terms of trendiness and aesthetic appeal, and

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<v Speaker 1>camels don't have a little bit weird. I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>on that, right, So I was all the more surprised

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<v Speaker 1>to find out that Joe Cammell actually got his start

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<v Speaker 1>in France, of all places. He was originally introduced in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventy four issue of a French youth magazine

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<v Speaker 1>called Pilot, and the campaign was so successful and its

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<v Speaker 1>goal to quote youth in the brand that in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen eighties, cigarette execs in the US started recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>the so called Funny Camel for the Throne ads. And

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<v Speaker 1>not only did this US version draw from the French campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>it also apparently borrowed his cool look from a later

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian ad that had shown the camel wearing a leather

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<v Speaker 1>jacket while shooting pool and playing electric guitar, So they

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<v Speaker 1>went a little overboard with that. But despite him being

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the fonsie of camel's, Joe was used for

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<v Speaker 1>a decidedly uncool purpose, and that's peer pressure. According to

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<v Speaker 1>a secret memo that the ad campaign's co developer wrote

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<v Speaker 1>to the company's vice president. The camel ads were to

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<v Speaker 1>be quote directed towards using peer acceptance and influence to

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<v Speaker 1>motivate the target audience to take up cigarettes. So unco, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely not cool. Well, you know what gave. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we need to close on a happier note

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<v Speaker 1>with our last fact here. And I've got good news

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I know you're a fan of cooking, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I found a new cookbook for you, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have it waiting for you here in Atlanta the

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<v Speaker 1>next time that you're here. And it's called the Chiquida

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<v Speaker 1>Banana Recipe Book, and it's published by United Fruit Company.

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<v Speaker 1>This was back in nineteen seven, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird to think about a time when bananas were considered

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<v Speaker 1>this exotic fruit and people didn't know exactly what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with them. And so now you have this cookbook

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you exactly what to do. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of suggestions for how to use bananas and recipes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you're a vegetarian gay, but I found

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<v Speaker 1>this recipe in here that that might make you change

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. And it's for ham banana rolls. With cheese sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to confess it almost makes me gag

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit just saying the name of that recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>But but what do you think you think it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>a try? Yeah, I mean, if anything's gonna get me

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<v Speaker 1>back on the meat wagon, that that's probably it. All right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>for your bravery and willingness on that front, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that alone gives you the fact Off trophy. So congratulations, Gabe. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an honor. Thank you, will and thanks to Eves

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<v Speaker 1>jeff Cote for her help with today's research. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with a full length episode tomorrow