WEBVTT - Freaky with Chiquis and Perez Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a household where you didn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about sex, about having your period, about being gay. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like no. As I got older in school

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<v Speaker 1>is when I learned about sex and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a confession of mine that might shock you. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have not had sex since two thousand sixteen. You're

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<v Speaker 1>more sensitive and you feel it more like just other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that. Oh my god, everybody's gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. I'm blushing already. Hello everyone, Welcome to a

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<v Speaker 1>very sexy and mature episode of Cheeckens and Chill. I

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<v Speaker 1>always tell you guys that this podcast is somewhere I

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<v Speaker 1>can speak about topics that aren't talked about enough in

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<v Speaker 1>our community. So today we're going to be diving into

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<v Speaker 1>something pretty taboo, sex and toys. We have a really

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<v Speaker 1>a great guest with us, so I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>get this conversation started. This is cheek Ease and Chill.

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<v Speaker 1>So as promised, we have a really great guest who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to talk to you today. Sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>with me is the one and only Perez Hilton. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an entertainer, an entrepreneur, a father, and podcast host. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome for us. How are you? I am well. I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening and enjoying your episode with Emily Stefan, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited to be on myself. I will

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<v Speaker 1>do everything in my power not to take over and

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<v Speaker 1>start asking you all the questions which I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't ask me whatever you want to Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a two way conversation, so you can ask me

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. I'll let you start and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth like a good two way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a good two way. Yeah, it's talking about sex. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to put it. Okay. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start off the conversation. Well, we've been following on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. We've been following each other for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been you comment on my stuff, I comment on

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff. I love your kids, by the way, they're

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<v Speaker 1>so freaking cute, and I love that now you're incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>them in in the videos that you guys are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is perfect. I don't know. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that first, thank you, before we move on

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, the sex and mature part of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk to you about something. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, but are used. Do you consider

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or I'm sure you've heard it before that you're

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty controversial person. Me, me, me controversial. No. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm going to start off by saying

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<v Speaker 1>something that has revealed itself to me, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, maybe not my brain playing tricks. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>over the last many years, my people, my fellow Latinos,

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<v Speaker 1>have really shown up for me and made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're family. And I don't get that necessarily from

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<v Speaker 1>Anglo America. I think you might understand this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Miami, the son of Cuban immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very different and even controversial within my own family. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you know that you still love your family

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<v Speaker 1>even if you disagree with them on politics or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it might be. So there are a lot of Latinos

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<v Speaker 1>out there who might think, well, he's controversial, he's we local,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I still kind of like him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually always been a little bit local, even since

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<v Speaker 1>high school. However, there came a point in time when

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that how I was doing things was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and not to pat myself on the back. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are some people who never learned that lesson. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some people who will go their entire lives without growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>without maturing. I mean, I don't want to get political,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't care. Look at Donald Trump. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is in his late seventies and he will still say

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<v Speaker 1>everything he thinks, and he got rewarded for all the

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<v Speaker 1>way into the White House. I'm not saying people should

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<v Speaker 1>censor themselves. I believe in free speech. However, I am

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<v Speaker 1>now acutely aware of the power of words, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you can express yourself in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>not cruel or nasty, or mean or purposefully hurtful, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what I used to do. I fully own it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was young. Well, I'm not I was still

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<v Speaker 1>a grown man. Okay, I can't even I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to excuse it on youth. I was in my late twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not care if my words were hurtful.

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<v Speaker 1>All I cared about was me, me, me, and the

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<v Speaker 1>attention that I was getting and the views and the

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<v Speaker 1>this and the that. And I look back at that

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<v Speaker 1>period of time now with deep shame, remorse, regret, and

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude that I'm not that person anymore. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>know that maybe even the majority of your audience still

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<v Speaker 1>sees me as that old person. It's like that expression,

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<v Speaker 1>a first impression is a lasting impression, and hopefully your

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<v Speaker 1>followers can see me as a cautionary tail. Things that

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<v Speaker 1>you say today on social media could stay with you

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. Because the Internet is forever,

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<v Speaker 1>people will always be pulling up receipts from my past.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that it was fifteen years ago or

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years ago. Yeah, you know what, But I respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect the fact that you can say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I regret it, I apologize, and we can't live in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. We could just say, you know what, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not who I am today and that does not define

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm going to be tomorrow. So I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think it has to do like your

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<v Speaker 1>change doesn't have to do with your children having children,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was just something that you I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it started before children. I noticed a change within me

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<v Speaker 1>when I be again, my journey to be a healthier person.

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<v Speaker 1>If people remember Perez Hilton from two thousand seven, I

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<v Speaker 1>was so unhealthy and that's how I like to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I don't like to say fat. I was fat,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more than just wait. It's more than just wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I was unhealthy and it was bringing me down. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I began on this journey to being a healthier person,

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<v Speaker 1>I became a happier person. And I noticed that my

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts changed. I was thinking clearer and differently, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid to make a change. I was paralyzed by

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<v Speaker 1>fear because at that point I had been Perez for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and things were working well for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually there came a point when the universe smacked

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<v Speaker 1>me upside the head specifically. You know. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago now, and in the fall of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and ten, there was this rash of gay teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>that were dying by suicide, and this journalist named Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Savage created this campaign called It Gets Better. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very simple. It was encouraging older people to make videos

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<v Speaker 1>directly speaking to younger people. And I found out about

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<v Speaker 1>it the very same day he launched this campaign. I

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<v Speaker 1>made it it Gets Better video, and the response that

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<v Speaker 1>I got it changed me forever, because I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment of darkness. I'm doing something to spread light.

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<v Speaker 1>But people did not see it that way. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>how dare you? How dare you make and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>better video. You're a hypocrite, you're a bully. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the problem. And it was at that moment

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<v Speaker 1>that I said, Okay, I have to make a change,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to stop all of the BS lies

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<v Speaker 1>that I was telling myself, things like, oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a character. If people don't like what I'm saying, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter because it's not the real me. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the real me. I was just beating my

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<v Speaker 1>brain these lies, and you know, I was saying things like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't like it, they should just ignore me. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as simple as that, Like you might be

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect person to talk on this, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you might ignore people talking smack about you, but then

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<v Speaker 1>a friend might innocently say, oh my god, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that person said that about you, or they might

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to your attention thinking they're doing you a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I decided to make a change. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like I've reinvented the wheel. I just put new rims

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<v Speaker 1>on it because I like that well, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for sharing that with us, for being honest and transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we've gotten that out of the way, we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about you know, well, we're here to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about okay, because I thought you were the perfect person

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<v Speaker 1>I like to talk about sex. I'm that friend that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always asking people questions, especially my gay friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're a gamel and you're open about it. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have him on and I know he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fun and I know he'll be honest because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of questions. Okay, Well, let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you some questions before you start asking your questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. You know, it's been many years years now

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<v Speaker 1>since you started doing work in television and you first

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<v Speaker 1>came out on the scene with the reality TV. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think if you have not done reality television that

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<v Speaker 1>the Spanish language media, which can be very vicious, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that they would have covered you differently. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a very freaking good question. Um, I think so, I

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<v Speaker 1>do thing. So I don't regret doing the reality that

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<v Speaker 1>was like my first step into like my own career.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I exposed so much of my personal life

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I wanted to keep some to myself. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just why why now? And you know, it's still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that. I did ten years of reality TV

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't regret it, but times were obviously different.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it was the thing back then, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little bit more harsh, I guess, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit harder on me. And I think it might have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with that. For sure. I've thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why now, even if they offered me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like I think about it a lot before. I

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<v Speaker 1>would bring my siblings and I to do something like

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<v Speaker 1>that again. Okay, well now my questions all right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, in our Latin culture, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>why I wanted a podcast, I can talk about anything

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. I grew up in a household where you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about sex, about having your period, about being gay.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like no, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>My family was very traditional, very religious. Yeah, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I just started like as I got older in school

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<v Speaker 1>is when I learned about sex and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my friends and what they were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not until like I was and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>my little late twenties, I would say that I was

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to a vibrator and I love them. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend that was not okay with me having a vibrator,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, no, that's my competition sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I'm thirty seven and I want to try

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<v Speaker 1>to and things, I have a man younger than me,

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<v Speaker 1>seven years younger, and he's totally fine with it. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring it in, like, let's have fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been amazing, you know, And I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>talk to well, some of my friends. I'm that friend

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<v Speaker 1>that would tell you, here, here's a vibrator for Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>or your birthday. Sit on this instead of straining this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that friend. I'm like, have safe sex. But my

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<v Speaker 1>grandma was like I would tell her, I'm my grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't had sex for so long. This is years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you haven't had sex for so long's you're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to masturbate. And I'm just like, what isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that safer than just like having sex with Random's? Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's quicker too. I don't know about straight people,

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<v Speaker 1>but most gay men they use the apps to to

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<v Speaker 1>hook up, and I just don't have the time or

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<v Speaker 1>the desire for that. Like, I would just rather take

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<v Speaker 1>care of business myself, and I'm done much quicker than

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<v Speaker 1>it would take me to like try to find buddy

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<v Speaker 1>and meet up with them and all of that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, though I love that you love your your toys,

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess that straight men would not really be

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<v Speaker 1>into toys for themselves. But here's my question. I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>but certain that straight men, a lot of them, if

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<v Speaker 1>not most, love porn. So are you okay with your

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<v Speaker 1>younger boyfriend watching a lot of porn and masturbating without you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be real with you right now. Before the

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<v Speaker 1>younger me was like, no, I was jealous, I was immature.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like ridiculous. But now I wouldn't mind

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it would give me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a breaknout. That I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>sex with him, obviously, but sometimes I'm just busy and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's another kind of chore, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So now, like I asked him, do

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<v Speaker 1>you watch porny says no, that he doesn't even like

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<v Speaker 1>to jack off or anything like that's not his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now i'd be fine with it. I'd be like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, just do your thing like him and I.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't gotten to that point. We've been dating for

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half, like watching porn together, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to and with my mom. My mom was

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<v Speaker 1>very very open. You know, we'd be leaving the house

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<v Speaker 1>on a date or with some friends. She's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well make sure you cover it, make sure you were

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<v Speaker 1>a condom or like. She was very like that a

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<v Speaker 1>little later, you know, because in the beginning she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really teach me much about sex or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she got older and then she met this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was like the love of her life, her

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<v Speaker 1>soul mate, and she just said that she became a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>At like thirty something years old, she had her first orgasm.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started talking about it. I was older, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So we we had these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>So your mom told you was telling you about her

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<v Speaker 1>first orgasm? Oh she did. She told us all have

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<v Speaker 1>you because you're so well known, Like, well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>is your boy is your current boyfriend Latino or not?

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<v Speaker 1>He is, he's half Mexican, And have Filipino have you

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<v Speaker 1>found like over the last decade or so that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be very cautious about dating because guys are

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to use you. Um. Yes, in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>when I start dating someone, I'm still a little bit hesitant,

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<v Speaker 1>a little worried, you know. But I think with with

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<v Speaker 1>the media and my current boyfriend, he's just very like

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<v Speaker 1>transparent and just very like you could tell right away

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<v Speaker 1>he's so different. But I have had guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>used me and have even called the paparazzi on us,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just yeah, it's like you think that they're

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<v Speaker 1>there for the right reasons and then you just realizing

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<v Speaker 1>I was dumb to just ignore it for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but I learned my listen, let me tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>learned it. So you've been dating a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the honeymoon phase is over, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>still excited about him. And at this point in your relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>how often are you having sex? You know what, you

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<v Speaker 1>live together? We do live together. Now you live together

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<v Speaker 1>and we have sex. It all just depends at least

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<v Speaker 1>three times a week, three times a week that amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. You know. I just actually have our little

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<v Speaker 1>like thing, you know, our night schedule, and it just happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows when I'm trying to get first scale

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<v Speaker 1>put something sexy on and I just like pretend like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my little like baggy Pj's and then I

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<v Speaker 1>pull him off and there's something nice down there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's young. I gotta I gotta freaking keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a confession of mine that might shock you. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have not had sex since two thousand sixteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not gotten naked with anybody. Perez, No way, way, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And why well, I'll explain why. So my son was

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<v Speaker 1>my first child to be born. He was born in

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<v Speaker 1>and after he was born, I decided that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go to New York City for a while because

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<v Speaker 1>I love New York and I went to college there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said to myself, this is my last opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy New York because after this I have to

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<v Speaker 1>really settle down. So I went and we were there

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<v Speaker 1>for two and a half years, and I went through

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<v Speaker 1>a huge slut phase using all of those apps, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got it out of my system. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>really easy to meet guys in New York because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need a car. You can take the subway and

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<v Speaker 1>you can be very spontaneous and very quick. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>moved back to l A and it was really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to even date, like using the same websites and the

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<v Speaker 1>same apps. It was just very challenging. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>realized I don't need to. I mean, I'm open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to. I'm not against it. I enjoy sex,

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<v Speaker 1>but something changed where I didn't want to chase it

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<v Speaker 1>that much. And I love sex, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be easy. I feel, you, well, things have changed so much,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you your personality, yourself, your celebrity like,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just feel like, are these people he's been

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<v Speaker 1>coming into my life because they you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just I don't think about that. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite it. Actually, I think anybody who messages me it

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<v Speaker 1>wants to embarrass me. So that's another reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stopped doing that. I thought, oh, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with me to try to, you know, lead me on,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can screen grab our conversation and then

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<v Speaker 1>leak it. And that's another reason why I'd rather just

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<v Speaker 1>be more old school and meet somebody at the gym

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<v Speaker 1>at my kids school, out at a concert, sitting next

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<v Speaker 1>to them on a plane, you know, like people still

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<v Speaker 1>do meet other people that way. How did you meet

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend at a party? At a I was having

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday party for a friend of mine, for Becky g.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they're like cousins. They grew up together, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the guests, and I had seen him before.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a photo shoot together, but we had like

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<v Speaker 1>never exchanged numbers or anything. And that day we were

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<v Speaker 1>just drinking, having good time. And I'm glad I met

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<v Speaker 1>him that way and not through someone that was sliding

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<v Speaker 1>through my d M s, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more traditional in that way as well. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>the dating apps that should like scared the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of me, and I'm like, know what, It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and these blind dates. I'd rather just like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, I don't know how to library. Are there

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<v Speaker 1>any libraries anyway? Anyways, I'm saying the library because I

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<v Speaker 1>would like a guy that reads, you know, he reads

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. Um, but I get it. I get

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're saying. Like the whole screen. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be so careful with everything that you do now because

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<v Speaker 1>they will just take a quick screenshot and try to

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<v Speaker 1>screw you over so on the same token, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even care if they do, Like I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just I expect that. So I'm prepared for the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not even that that I've been doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I do now for eighteen years. I would rather be

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed publicly than ignored, Like I'd rather have that humiliating

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<v Speaker 1>attention than no attention. I keep it real, honest. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I love about you. You're honest. Have you slept

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<v Speaker 1>with women before? No, you've never. I've never had any interest,

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<v Speaker 1>no desire. Oh my god, everybody's gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. I'm blushing already, Louis, Oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have siblings. Do you talk about these things with

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings? Oh no, No No, we my siblings and I

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<v Speaker 1>are very very close, like really close, like sometimes too close.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if I've ever shared this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're just very open. My mom was that way

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and so I'm like that with them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother, who's thirty one years old, he hasn't done

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<v Speaker 1>it a long time, but when we lived together way back,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I must have been in my

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<v Speaker 1>early twenties. I'd be taking a shower and he'd walk in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, sister, I'm like, I'm literally naked showering. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. He'd be like, I don't know this bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was telling me just whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very open. We were just on a trip and

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<v Speaker 1>I took them out for my brother's birthday and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about He's like, oh, I'm like, did you

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<v Speaker 1>get any birthday sex? He's like, oh, yeah, she gave

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<v Speaker 1>it to me real good and she just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she sucked it really nice. And that's also brother at

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<v Speaker 1>the breakfast table. So we are are you very very open?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that, but I think you know, well

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably closer and well, no, you're around the same.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister is six and a half years younger, so

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<v Speaker 1>we never had that kind of relationship. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like with your children you wanted to do talk to

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<v Speaker 1>them or because they're they're fairly young, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them about their parts and like penis and

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<v Speaker 1>vagina like oh yeah, using clinical words yeah, and saying

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<v Speaker 1>things like you know, nobody can touch you, only the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>When the doctor asked for permission, and not even anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings especially nobody can you know, we have those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of discussions. But my oldest is only nine years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a little young to have more.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm a single, gay dad and I

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<v Speaker 1>had my children through surrogacy, so I've I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that process with them and how they came to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe in being honest, which my mother doesn't

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>always agree with everything I do. She's like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be honest with children, their children, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in being honest and age appropriate as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're only going to understand so much. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that my kids are a little bit sheltered,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want my kids to remain kids. Like my

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't have cell phones. Like there's some nine year

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<v Speaker 1>olds that have cell phones. And if that's your family

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<v Speaker 1>and your and I understand it. You know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>might have a kid that has to go between a

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<v Speaker 1>mom's house and the dad's house, and the phone is

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<v Speaker 1>an important tool that the kid needs. My kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>need phones for me, and they're not they don't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will be honest and educating my children. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in their twenties, I don't need you them

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<v Speaker 1>to be telling me about if they orgasms or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I know you. But but if if they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it with each other, that's great. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it with each other. They don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it with me, though, you Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel you, I feel you, but I and I totally,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get that. I was watching I think the

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<v Speaker 1>View the other day and they were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember who she was, but she was talking about, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I speak to my children about their penis

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<v Speaker 1>and their vagina and that, like what you said, no

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>one should touch you there. And I think those conversations

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>early on, Yes, for me, are very important because of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to me. I was actually used by my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and and my mom. She was she was young

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<v Speaker 1>with she had me. She was fifteen, so she was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid raising a kid, you know. But now when

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<v Speaker 1>she got older she did tell me, she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I would have talked to you about that because

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<v Speaker 1>it would have prevented so many things. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens too often, and I think if they're aware of

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<v Speaker 1>their body parts and their privacy. I think that that

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is something important. Going back to something you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you I had, well, I was much

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<v Speaker 1>younger when my dad passed away. It was the summer

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<v Speaker 1>between freshman and sophomore year of high school. And not

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<v Speaker 1>only did my Latino Cuban family not talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>or talk about that, but they also didn't believe in therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's for our good ing goals. We don't do there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't go to therapy. We didn't do therapy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that I was in therapy back then. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in therapy now and I find it's so helpful. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask, you know, you've been through so

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<v Speaker 1>much in your life, and just from speaking to you now,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem very adjusted and happy. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe like healed or it's a healing is a

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<v Speaker 1>constant work in progress. But how did you get to

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<v Speaker 1>that point of where you are at now of healing yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure? Therapy. I've been in therapy since I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctor that examined me when all this came out

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<v Speaker 1>to light, um, he suggested, and again my family was

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<v Speaker 1>very like, well, what's therapy. All you need is God.

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<v Speaker 1>All you need to do is pray, and yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>do need that. I feel like you need to have

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship your faith. But therapy has helped me so much,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and like you said, it is a taboo

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that I talked about on my podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and I share and I'm a huge advocate for it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's helped me and my faith and having such

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<v Speaker 1>a strong mother that no matter what happened, she never

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<v Speaker 1>allowed me to feel sorry for myself. This happened, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pick up and then, you know, dust yourself off

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<v Speaker 1>and keep walking. And I always say that because I

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<v Speaker 1>have that in the back of my mind of we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep going, we gotta be strong. It's been that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been that and knowing the responsibility that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>having the platform that God has given me to share

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<v Speaker 1>and to spread light and to be an example of Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been through this, but that does not define who

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<v Speaker 1>I am today. I mean, I'm still in therapy. I

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<v Speaker 1>do it every week because it just helps me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I need the mentorship. I love it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>have so much empathy and compassion because when you have

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<v Speaker 1>trauma that happens like what you experienced, or even with

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<v Speaker 1>me losing a parent at a very young age. You

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<v Speaker 1>can respond one of two ways. You can respond how

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<v Speaker 1>you did and how I did, or you can respond

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<v Speaker 1>by choosing a path of destruction, you know, whether that

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<v Speaker 1>be exert alcohol or extreme promiscuity. And but what's fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't really get into therapy until in my forties,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't until the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years that I realized, Wow, I've been carrying all

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<v Speaker 1>this baggage from when I was a teenager that I

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<v Speaker 1>never really addressed because I didn't have the tools or

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<v Speaker 1>the mental and emotional maturity to process all of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>like my dad dying and my grandfather died the same week.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty earth shattering, and my grandfather lived with

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<v Speaker 1>us as well. My mom's dad and then her husband

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<v Speaker 1>both died seven days apart, and my dad was unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an aneurysm. And yeah, it's interesting because you

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<v Speaker 1>had a really close and special relationship with your mother

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<v Speaker 1>because you were close in age, and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very close and special relationship with my mother as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because in a way, I had to become at an

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<v Speaker 1>early age. The parents and I had to start financially

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<v Speaker 1>supporting my mother and she lives with me. I I

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<v Speaker 1>love her, and I say this with love. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother is an inspiration for me in how I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to parent, so I try to correct how

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<v Speaker 1>I was brought up and and and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing things differently from my kids, for example. And

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<v Speaker 1>you probably could relate to this too, you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have also compassion and grace and understanding from

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, knowing that she did her best. She did

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<v Speaker 1>her best given her upbringing and what she knew. But

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<v Speaker 1>I always struggled with my weight from youth to adulthood

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And I remember there was a period where

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<v Speaker 1>my mom decided we're gonna be healthy. So her i

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<v Speaker 1>of being healthy was having us eat iceberg lettuce with tomatoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the salad dressing was mayonnaise. Iceberg lettuce with tomatoes

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<v Speaker 1>and mayonnaise. But then there's some things that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, I used to fight my mom on. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you this, This is the best thing that

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<v Speaker 1>my mother told me growing up, which I never believed.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe you might think this is cynical. But I

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<v Speaker 1>never really believed or got or understood until recently because

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I always was a big proponent of friendship

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<v Speaker 1>and I love having friends. I love friendship. But my

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<v Speaker 1>mom said friends will come and friends will go, but

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing in life is family. And I'm like, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cynical. You can have friends that are like family,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, it's not true. No family is

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends are friends. And and I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that now, m it's probably like that. You know, blood

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>is thicker than water. And for me, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I consider my family my siblings. To me, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>us and and I feel that there are certain friends

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<v Speaker 1>like you can make your own family like people that

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you meet or you know what I mean. And for

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<v Speaker 1>me that that's that's my family. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I had and I had an episode on this called

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<v Speaker 1>toxic loyalty that in our culture, we're we're like, but

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that's your dad, but that's your cousin. It doesn't matter,

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's your family. But I'm like, but wrong is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're not making me feel good, and they're making

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>me more sad than happy, then I'd rather and I

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>learned this through through therapy, where it's just it's okay

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to let people from afar. It takes a long time

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to understand that because I was taught in a way

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>toxic loyalty in my whole life. And now I'm like, okay,

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be every relationship it doesn't matter who

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it is, for it to be reciprocated, for me to

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<v Speaker 1>give and they give as much as I do sort

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of thing. It took me a long time. That's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>What what is our realistic? Even even my sister, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she doesn't listen. Oh my god. With my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm always the one taking the initiative,

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, let's do this with the kids, or let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this, or let's do that. And it would be

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<v Speaker 1>nice if she's the one saying, hey, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>come over or whatever. But it's okay if it's not

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty. She's my sister, and I'm still gonna continue

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to be the one making the bigger effort. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the older sibling, you know, Yeah, as older siblings, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to always have to be that way. To

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, It's like I've learned that I'm like and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with it. As long as you motherfuckers call

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<v Speaker 1>me back and take me back, I'm good. Anyways, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing everything, for being so open for

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<v Speaker 1>your questions to me. I loved having you on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this is not the first and the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to share your social so people follow you?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do, but still well, the number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I'll say is people who listen and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts usually check out and enjoy more than one. So

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<v Speaker 1>check out mine the Perez Hilton podcast with Chris Booker.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear it at Perez podcast dot com. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Perez podcast dot com. And that's it. I'm everywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so grateful to have had this time together

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and uh that I'm still here. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy that I started life as Perez in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four, really before there was social media, Like

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I was an influencer before that word even existed. And

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm not an IT girl anymore, I'm still here

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<v Speaker 1>and I am an icon and icons are forever. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that absolutely. Thank you guys so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know I always share my motivational quote

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<v Speaker 1>right before we end. Here's the quote for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>When things change inside you, things change around you. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm a living proof of that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys enjoyed this conversation with Perez Hilton. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being on and I will catch you on

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