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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, it is Trista from Almost Famous Oge's and

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Speaker 2: I've got one of my lovely ogs, Dianna's with me today.

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Speaker 1: Love you Dianna, I love you too, God, I get

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Speaker 1: to see this so much this year. What a special treat.

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Speaker 1: I get to see you with iHeart, I get to

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Speaker 1: see you with the Bachelorette. I get to see you podcasting.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too, And we get to see each.

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Speaker 1: Other Sunday this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say next week, but it's this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh yay, Yes, I'm I'm so excited that all of

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Speaker 2: this stuff is happening. As I think anyone who knows

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Speaker 2: me knows, I love my Bachelorettes, my betties as we

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Speaker 2: call each other, and and it's just it just fills

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Speaker 2: my heart with joy.

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Speaker 1: Had a beautiful post on social media last night. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I watched your social media

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Speaker 1: post where you were just talking about how how grateful,

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Speaker 1: and I you know me, I love a grateful heart too.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we love each other so much. I

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Speaker 1: love a heart overflowing with gratitude. And I watched your

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Speaker 1: Instagram stories last night and heard you sharing how grateful

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Speaker 1: you are, and I just thought, oh man, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: have put it better myself. Like that's how I felt.

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Speaker 1: After we filmed. I came home and I was just like,

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Speaker 1: my heart is so full, like I could just vomit

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Speaker 1: fullness and gratitude because I just was so happy. I'm

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Speaker 1: really grateful. There was a period of time where I

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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily grateful for my time on the show, but

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Speaker 1: I am now, and I'm so grateful for the relationship

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Speaker 1: that I have with the women on the show, and

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Speaker 1: just the fact that we get the opportunity to go

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Speaker 1: back so many years later. You know, I think yours

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Speaker 1: was twenty three years ago. Mine's been like eighteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: To be able to go back and film and reminisce

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Speaker 1: and welcome new cast members and just like have no

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Speaker 1: pressure whatsoever. I don't want Taylor Frankie Paul's position that

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Speaker 1: she's in right now, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 1: just yeah, damn full of love and gratitude for the

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Speaker 1: women that we get to be surrounded with and call friends,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we truly, like I said in the post, we

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Speaker 2: are a sisterhood, people who have shared something that only

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Speaker 2: a very very very small percentage of the world's population

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Speaker 2: have been able to share, and so it just bonds

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Speaker 2: us and you know, like there's of course going to

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Speaker 2: be people who don't vibe with each other, but that's okay,

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Speaker 2: that's like any family, any sisterhood. So I just I

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Speaker 2: love each and every one of these girls, and to

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Speaker 2: be able to see it last night, Like I truly

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Speaker 2: was so emotional watching it because everyone has such an

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Speaker 2: amazing perspective and whatever happened on all of our seasons,

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Speaker 2: whether it was you know, a fairy tale that I

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Speaker 2: got to live through or not, everyone is just was

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Speaker 2: just so happy to be filming the Bachelorette before the

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Speaker 2: final rowse with Taylor and be able to welcome her

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Speaker 2: and just seeing it on the screen, knowing there's so

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Speaker 2: much that you all didn't get to see because of

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Speaker 1: All my friends were like, oh, we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: We're all probably on for two seconds, Like that's it,

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Speaker 1: Like no need you know. I kept getting all these texts.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited I'm so excited. I was like, don't blink,

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Speaker 2: I know, but I really actually think that they represent

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like everyone kind of got, you know,

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Speaker 1: She's so great. I love her. I love her. You

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Speaker 1: know what I think the next season of the Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: should be are is me and Ashley two older divorced

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Speaker 1: that sounds terrible, it weird, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, not that kind of show. This is a

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Speaker 2: Sorry, oh my gosh, I can't.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, before we talk about that, Trista,

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Speaker 1: there are some headlines this morning. It actually all started

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Speaker 1: last night after our special aired. There's some serious headlines.

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Speaker 1: And you know me and you know my story very well.

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Speaker 1: So I have lots of feels this morning, lots of

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Speaker 2: I know. I'm sure you're all in your fields, that

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Speaker 2: is for sure. So on the Sun the US Sun website.

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Speaker 2: The title is or the headline is Bachelorette Taylor Frankie

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you left at the part where it says

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Speaker 1: wives in crisis. That is so foul to me. It's

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Speaker 2: Oh, wives and crisis is yeah, above the whole title

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Speaker 1: They just terniately without reading the article, they are blaming

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Speaker 1: up right now, I'm fired up? She is? Why is

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Speaker 2: So this was published last night after the special at

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Speaker 2: like eleven thirty seven pm the special aired here, I

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Speaker 2: So it definitely was published after the special aired. And

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Speaker 2: feel like, because this is breaking news, we don't want

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Speaker 2: have had a history that has been in the headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's called domestic violence.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, So I want you to talk about

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Speaker 2: how you're feeling.

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Speaker 1: Man, I have all sorts of things when I am

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Speaker 1: for me. I know when something this terrible happened to me. Man,

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Speaker 1: am really really sad for both of them. Nobody was there,

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Speaker 1: They're probably living in fight or flight at every given moment.

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Speaker 1: The sheer amount of anxiety that I felt going to

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Speaker 1: for numbers, like, that's so sick. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, if it happened a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: why wasn't it reported? Then? Did it get buried in

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Speaker 2: or maybe they get less pressed because it's the Oscar

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Speaker 2: So the Oscars is going.

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Speaker 1: To bury it? Well, you and I both know that

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Speaker 1: ABC has a huge team. There's a huge team of

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Speaker 1: course that works on the show is on ABC for

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Speaker 1: a reason. They like a certain amount of drama because

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Speaker 1: that's why people watch. But they also have a team, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: protects the Bachelorette. That's their for this season, that's their

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Speaker 1: protect her, so maybe this was the best way to

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Speaker 1: stuff very quickly. When I open up my Instagram this morning,

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Speaker 1: it's all about Michael B. Jordan at in and out

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Speaker 1: with his oscar, you know what I mean. I didn't

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Speaker 1: actually see anything about Taylor Frinky Paul until our producer

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Speaker 1: Heather sent it over because I was buried by all

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Speaker 1: the oscar stuff. Like, maybe it was very calculated. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it is doing her a solid.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking this when you said this. They didn't

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Speaker 2: really protect mellowens though, so I think it depends on

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Speaker 2: who it is and if they're going to, you know,

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Speaker 2: go to great links to protect them. I want to

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Speaker 2: read what's in the article so that we can speak

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Speaker 2: about what was reported, or at least let you all

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Speaker 2: know it says. An officer said that when cops responded

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Speaker 2: to the thirty one year old mom of three's home

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Speaker 1: So they changed it after that. When there is domestic

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: In my case it was me, we won't go there.

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Speaker 1: But I was really shocked when we read that article

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Speaker 2: Was it in Idaho or was it in Utah?

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Speaker 1: I think it was in Utah, Oh, Utah, Okay, whatever, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know laws in California because I've had to pay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I think that that is wise.

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Speaker 2: I know that you struggled with that because when they

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Speaker 2: we don't have to go down that road. I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we are very sympathetic empathetic to tailor in

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Speaker 2: Dakota's situation, and we send them all the love and

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Speaker 2: which I know Dakota is doing. He did just his

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Speaker 1: And that's all we want. In the grand skin, that's.

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Speaker 2: All we want.

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Speaker 1: That's all we want. That's a healthy relationship for dad,

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Speaker 1: a healthy relationship for mom. Hopefully she finds love, Hopefully

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Speaker 1: he finds something else, and then within time and it

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Speaker 1: always takes time, hopefully there is some healing in that

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Speaker 1: relationship for the sake of the children. That's what you

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Speaker 1: hope that I'm a year makes a world of a difference.

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Speaker 1: I'll promise you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, that was a lot to cover with

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Speaker 2: the breaking news with Taylor and Dakota. We are going

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Speaker 2: to be back really soon with more from the Before

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Speaker 2: the Final Row Special