WEBVTT - The OTP | NFL Scouting Combine Finale 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.240 This is the OTP presented by Far Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.520 Farm Bureau Health Plans is healthcare coverage the way it 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.439 ought to be, High quality, sensibly priced, and easy to 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:26.480 apply for at FBHP dot com with Amy Wells, Coach 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.680 Dave McGinnis and the ever reliable Rhet Brian. I'm Mike 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:34.040 Keith and we are back at Ascension St. Thomas Sports Park, home, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.239 sweet home from Indianapolis. I would say it was a 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.960 great trip. It was a great trip. It was incredibly efficient, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.440 which I like. I like it when we can get in, 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.840 we can see a lot of people, get a lot 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.120 of work done, get a lot of information for Titans fans, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.800 and then get out of there. We came back before 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:58.360 Dave McGinnis, did you stayed till Monday? Monday morning? Who 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.960 was that? This was a great trip? It really is. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.640 This is very valuable to me since, I mean for 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.399 what we do and for the quality of content that 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.280 we put out also for our draft show. Plus I've 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.560 been to every one of them. I don't want to 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.800 break my streak. But the thing about it was is 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.240 those dates from Thursday to Sunday. I mean, you know 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.000 you're six seven hours in Lucas Oil. But the amount 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.280 of people I'm able to talk to while we're watching, 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.920 you know, everybody work, and then just the conversation that 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.680 goes on between groups. I mean, it's it's really valuable. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.720 Uh And I absolutely love it. I mean, and so 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.640 to me this time of year, for what this is, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.920 this is one of my favorites. Do you have specific 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:42.520 people you watch the combine with? Yes, Okay, yes I do, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:48.680 and especially especially groups of people and assistant coaches, you know, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.880 watching because most everybody's else is up in the suite, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.560 you know, everybody else is up in the sweet But yeah, 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.920 and then I have you know, people that I that 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.080 I talked to, that I've talked to for years, that 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.920 we all keep it, you know, within a pretty within 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.040 a pretty tight circle. Ret, Brian, what did you enjoy 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.440 most of us combine? I enjoyed all of it. I 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.639 mean it was great. I thought learned a lot, saw 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.160 a lot of you know, things that I liked, saw 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.120 some people who could help the Titans. Excited for you know, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.680 this whole process. I'm always ready for it, all right. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.919 But before we dive in a couple of things, we've 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.280 got to mention right off the top. The Titans ticket 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.600 office has shared this with me, and I want to 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.760 share it with the ot people. They are saying that 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:35.440 the Titans are putting on sale the Fireball Fast Pass 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:41.360 this Friday, all nine home games. That's the preseason and 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.720 the regular season home games. 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Yeah, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.039 it's not like a We're not just going to throw 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.000 you some and maybe you get three, maybe you get six, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.920 you get four or five? Yeah, yeah, we just I 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.520 mean we're all drinking here. Yes, you get how many's 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.159 in the box? No, you select three or six, Okay, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.520 depending on the package you choose. Join the Foolish Club 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.680 today and elevate your wine game while showing off your 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.159 Titans pride. And I will say, of the wines that 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.080 I have tried, which I think is all of them, 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:30.000 which figures nomenal, Wow, phenomenal. I'm not even mad at that, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.400 because whatever Mike's gonna say, what he's gonna say, they 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.240 are good. Yeah, they're really good. In my house is 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.880 a huge fan of the Pinot Noir. It's really really good. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.479 We always have some in our house at all times. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.400 Definitely worth it, highly recommend. All right, So we've got Fireball, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.560 fast Pass Friday, We've got the Foolish Club talking wine. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.320 Now let's talk combine. There we go, all right. The 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.440 man who may love Coachmack more than anybody in the 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.760 world is the Reese's Senior Bowl Executive director Jim Naggy. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.440 He loves Coach Mack. He loves to talk to Coach Mack. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.080 Who who doesn't. That's true? All right, So I'm gonna 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.400 read your Jim Naggy quote, Coachmack, and I want you 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.400 to translate it for those of us who've not done 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.600 this for a living in the way that you have. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:21.240 Jim Naggy said, quote combines over plenty of data to digest. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.080 Now the time to recheck our eyes on the tape. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.800 Can't be afraid that maybe saw it wrong. Don't have 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.840 to be right until April. Remember the quote unquote, evaluation 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:40.000 process is a process, Coach Mack. What does Jim Nagge 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.640 mean by that statement? Evaluations is a fluid moving being. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.840 And whatever you have, you can't form any concrete opinions early, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.680 and you don't get set in your ways on anything. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.040 You take all of these pieces. It's just like you 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.280 take a big puzzle and you look at the picture 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.400 on the box. You know what it's supposed to look like, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.360 and you pour it out on a desk and start 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.640 piecing it together. These are the pieces and you cannot 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.960 get don't be what this is saying, don't be an ie. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:13.320 I learned that so fast in my young career instant evaluator. Okay, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.040 don't be an ie. Take all the information and be 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.480 willing not only to bend, but be willing to change. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.240 You know your ideas, have an idea of what your 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:29.000 opinion is, but respect the opinion of others and also respect, 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.000 you know, the process. People always talk about the process, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.200 but this is an ongoing it's lacking to me, but 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.520 it moves all the time, and sooner or later it's 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.920 going to form into a solid being that comes on 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.920 the three days of the draft. That's when that comes. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.520 But right now, it's exactly what he means, and everybody 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.800 that's done it for as you say, a living is 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.920 doing that right now. People don't like that. People want 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.600 immediate answers. You know, who's where or where? Where are 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.040 we picking? When you picking what's next? It's not the 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.160 way it works. So coach, give me an example of 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.960 a player too that you need to recheck your eyes 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.599 on the tam Luke Schoonmaker tight end from Michigan, and 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:05.200 I need to take it to take a look at 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.720 him again again. Now at the combine six five two 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.920 fifty one four sixty three. I didn't know he was 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.200 that fast. One five nine and a ten, you know, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.520 I like that, and then thirty three and a half 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.600 vertical jump doesn't blow you away, but at ten seven 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.960 broad kind of tells you the guy has got a 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.440 little something too. I need to watch him again. I 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.560 need to watch Luke Schoonmaker and the other guy need 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.439 to watch Lucas van Ness from Iowa. Van Ness is 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.640 not a starter, you know. And he played a lot 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.079 of four eye four eye, which means Mike Keith is 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.880 a tackle. I'm looking right straight at him. I'm gonna 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.760 line up on his inside eye and do a lot 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.560 of things inside. When you watch him, you don't see 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.160 what he probably will be in the National Football League. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.680 Six five two seventy two four or five eight forty 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.800 thirty four inch arms, you know, eleven inch hands or 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.000 one six four ten which was excellent broad jump of 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.400 nine ten of three cone. This is what caught my attention. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.960 Seven point zero two. That's really good for a man 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.560 six five two hundre seventy two pounds seventeen reps on 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.720 the bench. Mike always talks about short arm guys are 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.520 better on the bench. This is a long arm guy. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.000 So I need to watch Lucas van Ness from Iowa, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.959 again knowing that I'm going to be watching some limited 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.439 reps because he was not a starter. But this is 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.520 a football player, all right. I want to bring in 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.880 Reet Brian and keep coach Mac and I want you 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.760 to bounce back and forth on this. Who are some 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:27.320 of the players who potentially improved their stock with NFL teams, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.200 not improved their stock with the draft analyst and the fans, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:36.120 but improved with the teams with their work In Indianapolis, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.920 a young man I got to interview and talked to 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.000 for a moment at the Senior Bowl. He's a defensive 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.440 lineman from Northwestern Tommy at a bare six two two 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.120 hundred eighty two pounds, arms thirty three and seven eights, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.439 hands ten and a half. He had a bench press 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.920 of two twenty five thirty times, vertical leap thirty seven 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.000 and a half inches, broad ten foot five inches, three 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.640 cone drill six point nine zero, short shuttle four point five. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.080 All of those in the ninetieth plus percentile for a 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.280 guy two hundred and eighty two pounds. So he's quick, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.439 and he has long speed, and he has long arms too, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.520 and he has long arms. Two headed snake from me 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.800 I'm pulling Amy Wales, but they're at the same school. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.199 Jakoian Bennett from Maryland, Okay. Cornerback four three and the 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.840 forty that takes your tension real quick, five eleven, one 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.400 hundred and eighty eight pounds, one four eight ten forty 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.199 and a half vertical jump and eleven ten part. That's 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.679 an athlete. I didn't realize he was all that when 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.439 I'm watching. But right on the other side at Maryland 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:40.760 is Dante Is d'ontay Banks, Okay four three five six 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.080 foot one ninety seven. They've got a track team there 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.760 at cornerback one four nine ten forty two inch vertical 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.360 eleven four broad jump. Two athletes. They've uped their stock. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.680 I will see those, gentlemen, and I will raise you. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.640 Wide receiver from West Virginia Bryce Ford Wheaton, a redshirt 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.400 senior from West Virginia six four two twenty one, ran 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.760 a four three eight forty yard dash at that size, 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.800 a forty one in vertical leap. His twenty yard shuttle 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.840 was four point one five. Lots of explosion there for 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.200 a guy that is. This is not a wide receiver 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.000 class with lots of big, fast, prototypical wide receivers. So 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.360 anybody that's meets those measurables and heightened weight you start 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.200 paying attention to because there's a lot of shorter, smaller, 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.360 rich with talent, wide receivers that can help you. You know, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.800 slot receivers and the like. They're just not a lot 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.280 of big guys. Stay with the receivers. At Perry from 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.719 Wake Forest, this is a bigger receiver. Sixty three and 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.079 a half, thirty three and a quarter arms four four 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.120 seven in the forty one five nine one five nine ten, 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.040 and thirty five in vertical eleven one broad. So you've 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.040 got an athlete. When you watch him on tape, he's 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.959 got he's long guy, quick feet. Here is what he's 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.440 got to me. This is a high ceiling, lower floor guy. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.760 But when you watch him on tape, the one thing 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.720 you start dinging him on is erratic hand. So you 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.160 go back and you look again and you see. But 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.520 at Perry Wake Forest, let's go with a tight end. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.920 In this from Old Dominion, Zach Koontz six foot seven, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.640 two hundred and fifty five pounds, thirty four inch arms, 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.440 hands ten and two eights wing nearly eighty four inches 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.480 ran a four five five forty and a forty inch 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.840 vertical leap. Now our friend Daniel Jeremiah talked about this 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.240 is one of the best tight end draft classes in 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.560 the last decade. This is a guy who is a 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.360 middle round prospect who can help you and clearly shows 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.360 with the size he has explosion to go with it. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:41.000 But that is just one of many tight ends that 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.760 will have their names called that weekend. Sydney Brown safety 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.320 from Middllinois. This is a five ten, two hundred eleven 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.400 pound just dynamole, you know. And when you watch him 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.080 move down there on the floor at Lucas Oil ten 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.120 and one quarter hands four four seven in the forty 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.640 one five one ten forty and a half vertical jump 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.720 broad ten ten bench twenty three. So you've got an athlete. Now, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.920 when you watch him on tape, you start to eat. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.640 There's always minuses. You start to look his hips a 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.880 little tight, got ten career interception six in twenty twenty two. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.440 This is a ball player. One last one for me, 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:19.240 and that is ut Chattanooga Mocassin McLendon Curtis, offensive lineman 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.800 six six three twenty four arms thirty five inches, so 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.600 his wing is a round eighty four hands ten and 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.360 two eights. It's a monster person. We met him at 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:33.360 the Senior Bowling and Mobile. His forty now for six 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.080 six three twenty four is five two four, but his 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.360 ten yards split that first ten yards one point eight five. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.000 The mark that is noticeable in that is round one 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.800 seven four. But for six six three twenty four, right, 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.120 he's moving in that ten yards where it's gonna matter 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.520 in the trenches so he can pull. Yes, Okay, if 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.640 I were still coaching, this is a school visit, I'd 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:54.280 want to go see. I want to go to Kansas State. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.320 I want to watch Felix a new k Uzama. This 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.360 is a guy to me, six three two h fifty 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.280 five pounds. That to me, when you look at him, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.000 this is a guy that you look at and you 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.080 say there may be something there on the third day. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.360 All right, So I've got another Jim Naggy quote for 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.320 you guys, he said. Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson is an 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:19.560 immensely talented physical specimen, yet a significant roll of the dice. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.760 At the same time, there's no nuance to the Richardson 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.640 eval yet TV Networks will debate it for the next 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.840 two months. April is going to be brutal. I'll ask 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.000 Rhett first, and then Mac you can chime in. Did 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.800 Richardson do enough to fully sell a team to pick 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.560 him in the top half of the first round? Absolutely? 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.680 And the answer that is he was already there and 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.960 he cemented it. You look at the measurable six four 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.280 two forty four hands ten and a half inches. We 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.120 always talk about the quarterbacks hands, but a four four 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.200 three times second forty forty and a half inch vertically, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.320 now that's the explosion of the athleticism that everyone has 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.640 been talking about out It's the arm and the other 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.040 things and the actress that go was it. If you 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.200 want to fall in love with a quarterback, take a 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.760 look at him when they finished up all of those 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.840 short routes and things, the drills, everything, but look at 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.440 a go route. He's got the touch. He had the 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.880 touch there clearly those things that he will have to 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.080 refine and work on. But yes, the answer is yes. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.960 One of the most impressive physical workouts I've seen in 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.520 a long time. At the combine, I've seen every one 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.480 of them that was impressive, and he just kept doing it. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.320 It wasn't like he did one thing good and then 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.320 one thing a little bit, and he was very very 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.920 consistent and going along with what Red says. When he 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.840 was throwing, he was in rhythm. He was throwing in rhythm. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.760 He was very confident, very impressive. So the answer to 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.600 that question is absolutely y and effortless. Flicked the ball 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.239 sixty yards on a go route like it's nothing. Coachback. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.520 Richardson's performance at the Combine did surprise some, but really 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.160 no one who watched him play high school ball or 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.640 college ball. He's like Cam Newton in terms of his 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:03.400 size and that other worldly athleticism. Is Cam Newton the 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.320 proper comp for Anthony Richardson in terms of risk reward? 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.119 Or can you think of another player? Dante Culpepper Okay, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.560 out a UCF in ninety nine, the ninety nine draft. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.840 You know, and I go back a while with this, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.360 but you know, I pulled my book out on Culpepper 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.400 from the ninety nine just like I got this book here. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.240 Sixty three and three quarters two fifty five. Okay, hands 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.600 nine and a half four five two forty at two 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.080 fifty five. All right, one five seven ten three cone 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.520 seven two one thirty nine inch vertical jump at two 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.120 fifty five broad jump of ten in the ninety nine draft. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.639 That was a Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, a Keeley Smith draft. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.760 And then look, this guy played for eleven years and 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.480 at Minnesota he was outstanding. I coached a lot of 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.760 defenses against Dante Culpepper. He was a problem running. I 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.720 think he set he set season records in two thousand 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.600 and four, single season season record for most total yard 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.920 He's produced by a quarterback in two thousand and four. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.439 It's Dante Culpepper for me. Wow. Mac, when you moved 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.840 back to Nashville from California, did you bring your box 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.040 of old notebooks? Does like I've got to make sure 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.520 I get some bedding. I've got to get my clothes. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.320 I got yeah, refrigerator. I gotta get my box of 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.720 old notebooks. We're not all worried about all that other stuff. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.760 I wanted my boxes of notebooks. I can get by 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.960 without that other stuff. I got plenty of people to 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.040 take me in, But those absolutely I did, because I've 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.560 I've got thirty seven years of them. Wow. But Mac, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.399 those banker boxes full of those notebooks, it's because up 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.320 until the last half dozen of them, your mortgage was 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.800 riding on it. Yeah, I mean it was. It was important. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.280 That's why it's important to you now. It was the 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.080 way I'm made a living and so this is I'm 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:48.360 still making a living somehow. Yeah, that's fascinating. I want 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.880 to keep talking about quarterbacks though, Sorry about the tangent. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.000 Quarterback Bryce Young is someone that we were all kind 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.440 of talking about going into the combine, and he measured 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:01.280 a shade over five ten, Yet zero people seemed to care. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.240 There was no conversation about it. Rhet Were you surprised 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.479 by the fact that everyone was like, okay when he 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.560 measured as short as we expected him to be. No, 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.040 and I'll tell you why. Look, we all had an 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.119 idea about what he was gonna measure in at, in 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.760 his hand size and the whole thing unless his pituitary 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.639 gland kicks had to overdrive him. But he's not going 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.159 to grow overnight or whatever, and just brought up like 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.479 a jack and the beans dog. The weight is what 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.639 I was looking at, and he registered in at two 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.480 oh four. You can tell he had been working to 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:36.240 put on that because you want to quell some of 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.960 those concerns about play strength and durability. I was looking 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.199 at the weight more than anything. Mac. I'll defer to you. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.440 We knew he was short. He said it better. Alabama 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.280 listed him at six feet one ninety four. We knew 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.919 he was short on an Alabama phone book. Yeah, you 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.200 knew he was short. But he's productive. I mean, he's 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.960 a productive he's a dealer, and you knew that. You 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.399 knew that going in. I would have loved to have 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.119 been in a meeting room with him. That's what I 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.560 would like to do, because he's supposedly is really good 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.320 at that. But you're you're looking at a productive player. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.240 So there was no there was no shock or surprise 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.680 to anybody that was there, and everybody in the National 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.400 Football League was there that when they measured and they went, oh, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.320 I didn't know he was short. We knew he was short, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.000 all right. So let's continue with this question. Who was 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:29.679 more impressive in Indianapolis, Ohio State quarterbacks? CJ. Stroud or 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.280 Kentucky quarterback will love its c J. Stroud. CJ. Stroud 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.240 to me, had the best quarterback workout of any of 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.760 them other than Richardson. Richardson had some more to prove 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.080 just because but CJ. Stroud location of the ball smoothness, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:47.119 just c J. Stroud without a doubt in my mind. Okay, 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.119 moment of truth for both Rhett and coach Mac. Rhett 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.560 goes first. Rhet Brian finished this sentence. The top four 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:59.320 quarterbacks in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft will be 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:06.080 select within the first blank overall picks nine. So the 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.119 top four quarterbacks will be selected in the first nine 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.400 overall picks. Okay, Coach Mac, your turn. The top four 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:16.800 quarterbacks in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft will be 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:21.920 selected within the first eight eight overall picks, Amy Wells, 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:27.280 does that surprise you? Yes? That surprises me. That just wow? 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.880 Did we think that going up there? No, But there's 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.520 a quarterback draft, guys, and there's a desperation for quarterbacks. Well, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.000 we just talked about what CJ. Stroud and Anthony Richardson 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.000 did while everyone in the eyes were all on them. Now, 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:43.640 now that's not the end all be all, but we've 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.480