1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Far Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans is healthcare coverage the way it 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: ought to be, High quality, sensibly priced, and easy to 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: apply for at FBHP dot com with Amy Wells, Coach 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis and the ever reliable Rhet Brian. I'm Mike 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Keith and we are back at Ascension St. Thomas Sports Park, home, 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: sweet home from Indianapolis. I would say it was a 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: great trip. It was a great trip. It was incredibly efficient, 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: which I like. I like it when we can get in, 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: we can see a lot of people, get a lot 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: of work done, get a lot of information for Titans fans, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: and then get out of there. We came back before 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, did you stayed till Monday? Monday morning? Who 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: was that? This was a great trip? It really is. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: This is very valuable to me since, I mean for 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: what we do and for the quality of content that 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: we put out also for our draft show. Plus I've 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: been to every one of them. I don't want to 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: break my streak. But the thing about it was is 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: those dates from Thursday to Sunday. I mean, you know 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: you're six seven hours in Lucas Oil. But the amount 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: of people I'm able to talk to while we're watching, 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, everybody work, and then just the conversation that 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: goes on between groups. I mean, it's it's really valuable. 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Uh And I absolutely love it. I mean, and so 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: to me this time of year, for what this is, 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: this is one of my favorites. Do you have specific 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: people you watch the combine with? Yes, Okay, yes I do, 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and especially especially groups of people and assistant coaches, you know, 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: watching because most everybody's else is up in the suite, 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, everybody else is up in the sweet But yeah, 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: and then I have you know, people that I that 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: I talked to, that I've talked to for years, that 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: we all keep it, you know, within a pretty within 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: a pretty tight circle. Ret, Brian, what did you enjoy 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: most of us combine? I enjoyed all of it. I 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: mean it was great. I thought learned a lot, saw 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, things that I liked, saw 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: some people who could help the Titans. Excited for you know, 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: this whole process. I'm always ready for it, all right. 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: But before we dive in a couple of things, we've 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: got to mention right off the top. The Titans ticket 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: office has shared this with me, and I want to 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: share it with the ot people. They are saying that 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: the Titans are putting on sale the Fireball Fast Pass 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: this Friday, all nine home games. That's the preseason and 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the regular season home games. You know, one of the games, 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: who's in London, A home games in London this year 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: that's not included in this. All nine games at Nissan 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Stadium three hundred and fifty dollars. Wowo. Price will jump 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: to four hundred dollars on April first. Not an April 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: fool's joke. No, not a joke. Limited quantities available, also 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: not a joke. Here's how the Fireball Fast Pass works. 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: You get a three hundred level ticket to all nine 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: home games in twenty twenty three for three hundred and 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. That's less than forty dollars a ticket. Now 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: you get a different seat every game. But here's the key. 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: If you purchase a Fireball Fast Pass, you have playoff priority. 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: That's huge, So the Titans get to hose playoff games. 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: You get a chance to buy tickets to be there. Now, 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a little bit of a 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: complicated web address. But this is important and I know 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: the OT people can follow it. Tennessee Titans dot com 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: slash Tickets Slash Fireball Dash Fast Dash Pass. Okay, I 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: know that's a lot, yeah, but you can do it. 66 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: But you can do it because you're smart. Tennessee Titans 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: dot Com Slash Tickets Slash Fireball Dash Fast Dash Past. 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: This will be updated Friday morning with the correct information 69 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and the purchase link. So if you're thinking about doing 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the Fireball Fast Pass, even if you can't make all 71 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the games, it's still worthwhile, you know, for three or 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: four games because you're in. Yeah, the Fireball Fast Pass 73 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite things that the Titans do 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: because most of the time all you want is a 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: foot in the door. You just want to be in 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Nissan Stage. Well, and we understand. Would we like for 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: you to buy a season ticket, Yes, and you can 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: buy those right now. We would love it if every 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: one of the OT people had a season ticket, but 80 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: it's not reality. That's not reality. We know some of 81 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: you are listening in different parts of the country, in 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: different parts of the world wherever. So again, one more time, 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Friday morning, they go on sale. You can immediately dive 84 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: in Friday morning. Tennessee Titans dot com Slash tickets, slash 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Fireball Dash Fast Dash Pass. Well, Mike, I've got one 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: for you and for the OT people as well, especially 87 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: if that link is driving you to drink a little bit, 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: which it shouldn't because it's really not that bad. Y'all 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: can do it. You guys can do it. But really, 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: we don't do that every week. No, we don't do it. 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: It's one time for something special. Just type down what 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: Mike said. It's not that big of a deal. But 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: if it's making you thirsty, yes, shall I recommend the 94 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans Wine Club. It's more of a premium wine 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: experience really, and it's called the Foolish Club. It's the 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: official wine club of the Tennessee Titans. They have handcrafted 97 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Napa Valley wines, exclusive access to private events and complimentary tastings. Visit. 98 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Here's an easy one Foolish Club dot com to sign 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: up now and receive three or six premium Napa Valley 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: wine bottles twice a year, along with tons of other benefits. 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Is it three or six? You can choose. You can 102 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: either get three or six. Oh, you decide Okay. Yeah, 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: it's not like a We're not just going to throw 104 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: you some and maybe you get three, maybe you get six, 105 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: you get four or five? Yeah, yeah, we just I 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: mean we're all drinking here. Yes, you get how many's 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: in the box? No, you select three or six, Okay, 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: depending on the package you choose. Join the Foolish Club 109 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: today and elevate your wine game while showing off your 110 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Titans pride. And I will say, of the wines that 111 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: I have tried, which I think is all of them, 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: which figures nomenal, Wow, phenomenal. I'm not even mad at that, 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: because whatever Mike's gonna say, what he's gonna say, they 114 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: are good. Yeah, they're really good. In my house is 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the Pinot Noir. It's really really good. 116 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: We always have some in our house at all times. 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: Definitely worth it, highly recommend. All right, So we've got Fireball, 118 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: fast Pass Friday, We've got the Foolish Club talking wine. 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Now let's talk combine. There we go, all right. The 120 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: man who may love Coachmack more than anybody in the 121 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: world is the Reese's Senior Bowl Executive director Jim Naggy. 122 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: He loves Coach Mack. He loves to talk to Coach Mack. 123 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Who who doesn't. That's true? All right, So I'm gonna 124 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: read your Jim Naggy quote, Coachmack, and I want you 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: to translate it for those of us who've not done 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: this for a living in the way that you have. 127 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Jim Naggy said, quote combines over plenty of data to digest. 128 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Now the time to recheck our eyes on the tape. 129 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Can't be afraid that maybe saw it wrong. Don't have 130 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: to be right until April. Remember the quote unquote, evaluation 131 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: process is a process, Coach Mack. What does Jim Nagge 132 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: mean by that statement? Evaluations is a fluid moving being. 133 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: And whatever you have, you can't form any concrete opinions early, 134 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: and you don't get set in your ways on anything. 135 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: You take all of these pieces. It's just like you 136 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: take a big puzzle and you look at the picture 137 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: on the box. You know what it's supposed to look like, 138 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: and you pour it out on a desk and start 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: piecing it together. These are the pieces and you cannot 140 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: get don't be what this is saying, don't be an ie. 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I learned that so fast in my young career instant evaluator. Okay, 142 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: don't be an ie. Take all the information and be 143 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: willing not only to bend, but be willing to change. 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: You know your ideas, have an idea of what your 145 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: opinion is, but respect the opinion of others and also respect, 146 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, the process. People always talk about the process, 147 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: but this is an ongoing it's lacking to me, but 148 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: it moves all the time, and sooner or later it's 149 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: going to form into a solid being that comes on 150 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: the three days of the draft. That's when that comes. 151 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: But right now, it's exactly what he means, and everybody 152 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: that's done it for as you say, a living is 153 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: doing that right now. People don't like that. People want 154 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: immediate answers. You know, who's where or where? Where are 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: we picking? When you picking what's next? It's not the 156 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: way it works. So coach, give me an example of 157 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: a player too that you need to recheck your eyes 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: on the tam Luke Schoonmaker tight end from Michigan, and 159 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: I need to take it to take a look at 160 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: him again again. Now at the combine six five two 161 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: fifty one four sixty three. I didn't know he was 162 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: that fast. One five nine and a ten, you know, 163 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: I like that, and then thirty three and a half 164 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: vertical jump doesn't blow you away, but at ten seven 165 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: broad kind of tells you the guy has got a 166 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: little something too. I need to watch him again. I 167 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: need to watch Luke Schoonmaker and the other guy need 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: to watch Lucas van Ness from Iowa. Van Ness is 169 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: not a starter, you know. And he played a lot 170 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: of four eye four eye, which means Mike Keith is 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: a tackle. I'm looking right straight at him. I'm gonna 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: line up on his inside eye and do a lot 173 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: of things inside. When you watch him, you don't see 174 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: what he probably will be in the National Football League. 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: Six five two seventy two four or five eight forty 176 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: thirty four inch arms, you know, eleven inch hands or 177 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: one six four ten which was excellent broad jump of 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: nine ten of three cone. This is what caught my attention. 179 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: Seven point zero two. That's really good for a man 180 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: six five two hundre seventy two pounds seventeen reps on 181 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: the bench. Mike always talks about short arm guys are 182 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: better on the bench. This is a long arm guy. 183 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: So I need to watch Lucas van Ness from Iowa, 184 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: again knowing that I'm going to be watching some limited 185 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: reps because he was not a starter. But this is 186 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: a football player, all right. I want to bring in 187 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Reet Brian and keep coach Mac and I want you 188 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: to bounce back and forth on this. Who are some 189 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: of the players who potentially improved their stock with NFL teams, 190 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: not improved their stock with the draft analyst and the fans, 191 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: but improved with the teams with their work In Indianapolis, 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: a young man I got to interview and talked to 193 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: for a moment at the Senior Bowl. He's a defensive 194 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: lineman from Northwestern Tommy at a bare six two two 195 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: hundred eighty two pounds, arms thirty three and seven eights, 196 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: hands ten and a half. He had a bench press 197 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: of two twenty five thirty times, vertical leap thirty seven 198 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: and a half inches, broad ten foot five inches, three 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: cone drill six point nine zero, short shuttle four point five. 200 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: All of those in the ninetieth plus percentile for a 201 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: guy two hundred and eighty two pounds. So he's quick, 202 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: and he has long speed, and he has long arms too, 203 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: and he has long arms. Two headed snake from me 204 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm pulling Amy Wales, but they're at the same school. 205 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: Jakoian Bennett from Maryland, Okay. Cornerback four three and the 206 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: forty that takes your tension real quick, five eleven, one 207 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight pounds, one four eight ten forty 208 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: and a half vertical jump and eleven ten part. That's 209 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: an athlete. I didn't realize he was all that when 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm watching. But right on the other side at Maryland 211 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: is Dante Is d'ontay Banks, Okay four three five six 212 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: foot one ninety seven. They've got a track team there 213 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: at cornerback one four nine ten forty two inch vertical 214 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: eleven four broad jump. Two athletes. They've uped their stock. 215 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: I will see those, gentlemen, and I will raise you. 216 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Wide receiver from West Virginia Bryce Ford Wheaton, a redshirt 217 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: senior from West Virginia six four two twenty one, ran 218 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: a four three eight forty yard dash at that size, 219 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: a forty one in vertical leap. His twenty yard shuttle 220 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: was four point one five. Lots of explosion there for 221 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: a guy that is. This is not a wide receiver 222 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: class with lots of big, fast, prototypical wide receivers. So 223 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: anybody that's meets those measurables and heightened weight you start 224 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: paying attention to because there's a lot of shorter, smaller, 225 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: rich with talent, wide receivers that can help you. You know, 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: slot receivers and the like. They're just not a lot 227 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: of big guys. Stay with the receivers. At Perry from 228 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: Wake Forest, this is a bigger receiver. Sixty three and 229 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: a half, thirty three and a quarter arms four four 230 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: seven in the forty one five nine one five nine ten, 231 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: and thirty five in vertical eleven one broad. So you've 232 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: got an athlete. When you watch him on tape, he's 233 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: got he's long guy, quick feet. Here is what he's 234 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: got to me. This is a high ceiling, lower floor guy. 235 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: But when you watch him on tape, the one thing 236 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: you start dinging him on is erratic hand. So you 237 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: go back and you look again and you see. But 238 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: at Perry Wake Forest, let's go with a tight end. 239 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: In this from Old Dominion, Zach Koontz six foot seven, 240 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five pounds, thirty four inch arms, 241 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: hands ten and two eights wing nearly eighty four inches 242 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: ran a four five five forty and a forty inch 243 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: vertical leap. Now our friend Daniel Jeremiah talked about this 244 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: is one of the best tight end draft classes in 245 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: the last decade. This is a guy who is a 246 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: middle round prospect who can help you and clearly shows 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: with the size he has explosion to go with it. 248 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: But that is just one of many tight ends that 249 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: will have their names called that weekend. Sydney Brown safety 250 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: from Middllinois. This is a five ten, two hundred eleven 251 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: pound just dynamole, you know. And when you watch him 252 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: move down there on the floor at Lucas Oil ten 253 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: and one quarter hands four four seven in the forty 254 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: one five one ten forty and a half vertical jump 255 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: broad ten ten bench twenty three. So you've got an athlete. Now, 256 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: when you watch him on tape, you start to eat. 257 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: There's always minuses. You start to look his hips a 258 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: little tight, got ten career interception six in twenty twenty two. 259 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: This is a ball player. One last one for me, 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and that is ut Chattanooga Mocassin McLendon Curtis, offensive lineman 261 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: six six three twenty four arms thirty five inches, so 262 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: his wing is a round eighty four hands ten and 263 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: two eights. It's a monster person. We met him at 264 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowling and Mobile. His forty now for six 265 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: six three twenty four is five two four, but his 266 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: ten yards split that first ten yards one point eight five. 267 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: The mark that is noticeable in that is round one 268 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: seven four. But for six six three twenty four, right, 269 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: he's moving in that ten yards where it's gonna matter 270 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: in the trenches so he can pull. Yes, Okay, if 271 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: I were still coaching, this is a school visit, I'd 272 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: want to go see. I want to go to Kansas State. 273 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I want to watch Felix a new k Uzama. This 274 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: is a guy to me, six three two h fifty 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: five pounds. That to me, when you look at him, 276 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: this is a guy that you look at and you 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: say there may be something there on the third day. 278 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: All right, So I've got another Jim Naggy quote for 279 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you guys, he said. Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson is an 280 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: immensely talented physical specimen, yet a significant roll of the dice. 281 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: At the same time, there's no nuance to the Richardson 282 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: eval yet TV Networks will debate it for the next 283 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: two months. April is going to be brutal. I'll ask 284 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Rhett first, and then Mac you can chime in. Did 285 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Richardson do enough to fully sell a team to pick 286 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: him in the top half of the first round? Absolutely? 287 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: And the answer that is he was already there and 288 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: he cemented it. You look at the measurable six four 289 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: two forty four hands ten and a half inches. We 290 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: always talk about the quarterbacks hands, but a four four 291 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: three times second forty forty and a half inch vertically, 292 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: now that's the explosion of the athleticism that everyone has 293 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: been talking about out It's the arm and the other 294 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: things and the actress that go was it. If you 295 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: want to fall in love with a quarterback, take a 296 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: look at him when they finished up all of those 297 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: short routes and things, the drills, everything, but look at 298 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a go route. He's got the touch. He had the 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: touch there clearly those things that he will have to 300 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: refine and work on. But yes, the answer is yes. 301 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: One of the most impressive physical workouts I've seen in 302 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: a long time. At the combine, I've seen every one 303 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: of them that was impressive, and he just kept doing it. 304 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't like he did one thing good and then 305 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: one thing a little bit, and he was very very 306 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: consistent and going along with what Red says. When he 307 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: was throwing, he was in rhythm. He was throwing in rhythm. 308 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: He was very confident, very impressive. So the answer to 309 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that question is absolutely y and effortless. Flicked the ball 310 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,239 Speaker 1: sixty yards on a go route like it's nothing. Coachback. 311 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Richardson's performance at the Combine did surprise some, but really 312 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: no one who watched him play high school ball or 313 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: college ball. He's like Cam Newton in terms of his 314 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: size and that other worldly athleticism. Is Cam Newton the 315 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: proper comp for Anthony Richardson in terms of risk reward? 316 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: Or can you think of another player? Dante Culpepper Okay, 317 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: out a UCF in ninety nine, the ninety nine draft. 318 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, and I go back a while with this, 319 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: but you know, I pulled my book out on Culpepper 320 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: from the ninety nine just like I got this book here. 321 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Sixty three and three quarters two fifty five. Okay, hands 322 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: nine and a half four five two forty at two 323 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: fifty five. All right, one five seven ten three cone 324 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: seven two one thirty nine inch vertical jump at two 325 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: fifty five broad jump of ten in the ninety nine draft. 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: That was a Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, a Keeley Smith draft. 327 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: And then look, this guy played for eleven years and 328 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: at Minnesota he was outstanding. I coached a lot of 329 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: defenses against Dante Culpepper. He was a problem running. I 330 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: think he set he set season records in two thousand 331 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: and four, single season season record for most total yard 332 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: He's produced by a quarterback in two thousand and four. 333 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: It's Dante Culpepper for me. Wow. Mac, when you moved 334 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: back to Nashville from California, did you bring your box 335 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: of old notebooks? Does like I've got to make sure 336 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: I get some bedding. I've got to get my clothes. 337 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: I got yeah, refrigerator. I gotta get my box of 338 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: old notebooks. We're not all worried about all that other stuff. 339 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I wanted my boxes of notebooks. I can get by 340 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: without that other stuff. I got plenty of people to 341 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: take me in, But those absolutely I did, because I've 342 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: I've got thirty seven years of them. Wow. But Mac, 343 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: those banker boxes full of those notebooks, it's because up 344 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: until the last half dozen of them, your mortgage was 345 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: riding on it. Yeah, I mean it was. It was important. 346 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: That's why it's important to you now. It was the 347 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: way I'm made a living and so this is I'm 348 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: still making a living somehow. Yeah, that's fascinating. I want 349 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: to keep talking about quarterbacks though, Sorry about the tangent. 350 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: Quarterback Bryce Young is someone that we were all kind 351 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: of talking about going into the combine, and he measured 352 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: a shade over five ten, Yet zero people seemed to care. 353 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: There was no conversation about it. Rhet Were you surprised 354 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: by the fact that everyone was like, okay when he 355 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: measured as short as we expected him to be. No, 356 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. Look, we all had an 357 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: idea about what he was gonna measure in at, in 358 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: his hand size and the whole thing unless his pituitary 359 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: gland kicks had to overdrive him. But he's not going 360 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: to grow overnight or whatever, and just brought up like 361 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: a jack and the beans dog. The weight is what 362 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: I was looking at, and he registered in at two 363 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: oh four. You can tell he had been working to 364 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: put on that because you want to quell some of 365 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: those concerns about play strength and durability. I was looking 366 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: at the weight more than anything. Mac. I'll defer to you. 367 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: We knew he was short. He said it better. Alabama 368 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: listed him at six feet one ninety four. We knew 369 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: he was short on an Alabama phone book. Yeah, you 370 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: knew he was short. But he's productive. I mean, he's 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: a productive he's a dealer, and you knew that. You 372 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: knew that going in. I would have loved to have 373 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: been in a meeting room with him. That's what I 374 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: would like to do, because he's supposedly is really good 375 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: at that. But you're you're looking at a productive player. 376 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: So there was no there was no shock or surprise 377 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: to anybody that was there, and everybody in the National 378 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Football League was there that when they measured and they went, oh, 379 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know he was short. We knew he was short, 380 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: all right. So let's continue with this question. Who was 381 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: more impressive in Indianapolis, Ohio State quarterbacks? CJ. Stroud or 382 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky quarterback will love its c J. Stroud. CJ. Stroud 383 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: to me, had the best quarterback workout of any of 384 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: them other than Richardson. Richardson had some more to prove 385 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: just because but CJ. Stroud location of the ball smoothness, 386 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: just c J. Stroud without a doubt in my mind. Okay, 387 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: moment of truth for both Rhett and coach Mac. Rhett 388 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: goes first. Rhet Brian finished this sentence. The top four 389 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft will be 390 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: select within the first blank overall picks nine. So the 391 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: top four quarterbacks will be selected in the first nine 392 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: overall picks. Okay, Coach Mac, your turn. The top four 393 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft will be 394 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: selected within the first eight eight overall picks, Amy Wells, 395 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: does that surprise you? Yes? That surprises me. That just wow? 396 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Did we think that going up there? No, But there's 397 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback draft, guys, and there's a desperation for quarterbacks. Well, 398 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: we just talked about what CJ. Stroud and Anthony Richardson 399 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: did while everyone in the eyes were all on them. Now, 400 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: now that's not the end all be all, but we've 401 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: seen how that pump your stock up. Well, and Levis 402 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: did a good job too. He might not have been 403 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: as spectacular as the others were, but the feeling was 404 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: he did a good job. Right. If you were Will 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Levis fan, going in right, you were Will Levis fan 406 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: coming out, which is what needed to have happened for him, 407 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: which is what needed to happen for him. I can 408 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: give you a quarterback that didn't happen real well for him. 409 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: You didn't ask me this question, Well, sure, so I 410 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: won't till you ask me the question. Coach, give me 411 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback that you don't feel like. The twenty twenty 412 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: three NFL combine went well for Max Duggan, the quarterback frog. 413 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: He was TCU widely erratic. He was It wasn't good 414 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: to him. You know, they say Stetson Bennett did well too, right. 415 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett first of all, stepped down there and ran 416 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: really fast like we knew he would four six seven, Yeah, 417 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: and then just continue to throw and through very well. 418 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: But yes, Stetson Bennett is kind of the faced us 419 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: forgotten man in all of this with his two national 420 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: championship trophies, and so he is, that's right. And everybody 421 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: thought he was a game manager, and I think as 422 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: the season went along he showed more and more and 423 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: that it did it to combine. He's more than just 424 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: a game manage. He'll end up He'll end up in 425 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: a camp It's now halftime of the OTP presented by 426 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: Duncan Rewards. Download the dunk An app today and start 427 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: saving and stacking your way to the free Duncan. You'll 428 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: love save them, stack them, use them however you want. 429 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan terms apply rhet Brian, How do 430 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: you use your Duncan rewards? What do you purchase with 431 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: your Duncan rewards? Ice? Lattes, latte? Ice? Lattees? You too? Well? Yeah, 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean I love a good ice. What you purchase? 433 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: What have you used your Duncan rewards for? I've got 434 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: to say I was kind of chuckling because of Rhett, 435 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: but the last six or seven things I've bought have 436 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: been the same. I use mine on a breakfast sandwich, 437 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: which was quite a delight. But can you go there 438 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and not get coffee? The answer is no, I can't sandwich. 439 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: I get coffee. I get the egg and cheese. Yes, yes, 440 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: that's a good go to. Yes on the English, muffin 441 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: on the English. But that's good. I do croissant. What's 442 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: wrong with you people? Okay, well, we're more refined than 443 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: There's nothing more refined than a crossan. Maybe, thank you 444 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Duncan for the interlude, right there, Coach Mack from the 445 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: chatter that you picked up at the combine and you 446 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: talk to everybody, who is a player who will go 447 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: in the top ten that you thought would go lower 448 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: than that before last week? Richardson, Yeah, without a doubt, 449 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: without a doubt Richardson, Anthony Richardson, he says, all right, well, 450 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: slightly different version of the same question. Who is a 451 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: player who will go in the first round that you 452 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: thought would go lower than that before last week? Lucas 453 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: van Ness, Okay, I think everybody's coming around to what 454 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: that package is me included. He's not a workout warrior. No. 455 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: And the thing is too, I mean, if you if 456 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: you look at Iowa and you look at kirk Feren's, 457 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: they start their upperclassmen, they start their older guys. Doesn't 458 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna play all the snaps. But when you 459 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: hear the whole thing about him not being a starter, 460 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: if you don't know about their program, and Daniel Jeremiah 461 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: told us this, you know that's why he's never started 462 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: a game is because he wasn't one of the older dudes. 463 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: It's it's an old school program that does it that way, 464 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: you hit it right on the head, and the more 465 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you dig on the film, you go, Okay, I get it. 466 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk Tennessee volunteers. Three of them have gotten at 467 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: least some first round chatter. Let's go fast here. I'll 468 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: throw out the name and you tell me based on 469 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: what you saw and heard at the combine, if this 470 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: player is going in the first round. Jalen Hyatt still 471 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: going in the first round. Possible, possible, Darnell Wright, yes, 472 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: bottom a first round now bottom of the first, Hendon 473 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Hooker early second, but could sneak in second round, second round. 474 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: All right, Rhett, what's the buzz coming out of Indie? 475 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: On the other vall Wyatt out Cedric Tillman. It's what 476 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: I've been talking about with the wide receiver class. I mean, 477 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: he sixty three, two thirteen, so he's one of the 478 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: bigger receivers in this draft and helped himself, in my opinion, 479 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: four five four forty thirty seven, invert his ten yards 480 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: split one point five three for a guy six three, 481 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: two thirteen in a class that again doesn't have a 482 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: ton of big prototypical wide receivers that have been productive, 483 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: and he's healthy. That's the big thing with him. He 484 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: was all smiles at the podium that day, and then 485 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the next one was over the weekend. He showed out 486 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but it's because he's been healthy. He 487 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: has got combat catches on tape against the best competition 488 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: in the country. He did nothing but help himself. This 489 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: guy will be early second day because of a lot 490 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: of reasons. But he's got verified tape. You don't have 491 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: to guess at what he is as a football player. 492 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: You didn't know all those numbers that Rhet put out, 493 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: which are really good, but he is a verified combat 494 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: catcher and those are valuable in this league. Well, and 495 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Rhett said it, I think very well early there are 496 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of widely regarded big receivers in this draft, 497 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: coach correct, And that's one true. But what he's got, 498 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: you are not projecting with him. You've got it on 499 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: tape in the Southeastern Conference, which is as good as 500 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: you get. Every year. It feels like there are outstanding 501 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: players who during the lead up to the draft we 502 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: hear every single little thing that's wrong with them for 503 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason. Who, in your opinion, Coach Mac is the 504 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft prospect that media folks and draft 505 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: experts are overanalyzing and overdissecting and are just completely overthinking 506 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Peter Scronsky. I mean, if I had one conversation, I 507 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: had twenty seven. There is he a guards the attackle? 508 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Is he a guarters the attackle? And finally I started saying, 509 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: draft him and play him because he's going to be 510 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: there for twelve years. Draft him and play him. Don't 511 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: overthink this. And I'll say the same thing about a 512 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: different position group, and this is the one that is 513 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: not one of the deeper ones. But this guy's the 514 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: head of the class in that group, and that's safety. 515 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Brian Branch from Alabama. He ran a four five eight 516 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: forty And so everybody's like, I don't know, how did 517 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: they say that again? I don't know, but stop, he's 518 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: played again, like you said about Cedric Tillman against the 519 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: best every week. He's the top of this safety class. 520 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: And you talk about a guy who made an impression. 521 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what a smart young man and a leader. 522 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: And I mean I hurt all of that at the 523 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: podium with him. Give me him. Let's go. Anything under 524 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: four six is fast. Yeah, it's like, hello, I don't know, 525 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. Maybe you gave him, 526 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: you gave him the police. Stop. Please, here's my Please 527 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: stop Will Anderson, please stop with this stuff. But oh, 528 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Darnell Right dominated Well, guess what. Darnell 529 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Right is really really good. Darnell Wright had a tremendous day. 530 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Will Anderson didn't have a good day. But I'll tell 531 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: you what. He started as a freshman, just walked on 532 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: campus in the front seven on the National champions on 533 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the best defense in America. He is a serious dude. 534 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: I would take him right now anytime. I mean, that 535 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: guy is a player. I think he's going top five 536 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: or six and all this stuff. Though, well we don't 537 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: know about Will and I don't know. Listen Will Anderson. 538 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Oh but can you believe this talk? I mean, I'm 539 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: sitting here listening to these people. I'm going Darnell Right 540 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: is really well. The Tennessee tape gave us pause. What 541 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: one game in his whole career. There is one thing 542 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: that I have gained from the Coach Max school of ball. 543 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Everybody gets beaten on a given day, and sure you do. 544 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: If you're if you're a defensive back, you hadn't lived 545 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: until you gotten your doors blown off by somebody. Will 546 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Anderson is a top five prospect in this draft, maybe 547 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: in the top two or three. Let me just say 548 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: this about Will Anderson, and this is probably an other question, 549 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: but we're on Will to Anderson. Now. He impressed me 550 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: so much at this combine for this reason. First of all, 551 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: he's first in line because they go alphabetically, but he 552 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: is a player of major note in this draft. He 553 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: did every drill, every single drill he performed, and he 554 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: performed it uh to his utmost ability. And then they 555 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: asked this group, about three or four of them to 556 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: stay afterwards when the group was done, to run the hoops, 557 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: to run the hoops, to get a hoop. He stayed 558 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: right there. Well, I stayed right there and jumped up there. 559 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: And to me, this guy is a legit dude, legit. Look, 560 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: if you don't think he's a player, then you're gonna 561 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: have problem finding a player. Well, but I don't even 562 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: think he's hard. I'm no evaluator of talent in terms 563 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: of all the debt, but that guy can play. He 564 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: played at Alabama. And you you may be listening to 565 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: the OTP right now, and you may not like Alabama. Fine, 566 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're not very good. No, they're 567 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: They're fantasic. Their coach is fantastic, their ability to evaluate 568 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: and develop talent is fantastic at every level. Give them credit, 569 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: you know for what they do. There are a lot 570 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: of great players in the NFL right now who came 571 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: from Alabama. So he's got a pedigree, he's got the size. 572 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Will Anderson is what you want on defensive. 573 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the Titans are going to end up 574 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: with him because I think he's going to go before 575 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: the Titans could even pick him. But the bottom line 576 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: is he's a winner in the NFL. If he doesn't 577 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: end up being it's a much bigger upset to me 578 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: than if he ends up being a Pro Bowl. See, 579 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't get to interview these guys like I used to, 580 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, when I was deep into the coaching part 581 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: of it. But I still look at it as a 582 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: coach and just going back by what I said, watching 583 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: what he did, just watching his mannerisms, and then the 584 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: way he approached this even being a premier player, because 585 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: he could have run a forty and said that's enough. 586 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: Every drill that means something through my coaching eyes when 587 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm watching the type of player you're going to get 588 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: in your locker room. He likes to play, Yeah, and 589 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: he's not afraid to compete, right, And I mean that's 590 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: like a Harold Landry for this for this team. Harold 591 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: Landry likes to play. I think it's one of the 592 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: biggest things the Titans missed last year on defense about 593 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: not having Harold is the way the number of snaps 594 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: he gives him, the sacks and the tackles, and he 595 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: plays the run, he'll drop into coverage. I get all that, 596 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: but that guy likes to go. He just wants to 597 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: be on the field contributing. He wants to go, he 598 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: wants to go hard and having that just within a 599 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: defense everybody else All right, Amy, you're gonna start this one. 600 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: What was the best story? Your best story from the 601 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three combine. I think I guess my favorite 602 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: story of the twenty twenty three combine has been Anthony 603 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Richardson and watching him week after week, day after day, 604 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: it feels like his stock rises in a way that 605 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you can almost physically see because the conversation it felt 606 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: like every day was like all right. I mean, here's 607 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: a guy. He was kind of he was only one 608 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: year starter at Florida. We don't really know, but you know, 609 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: he seems to have some things on paper that we like. 610 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: And that was like, well, we'll get him to the combine, 611 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: we'll measure him, we'll see well, then he measures pretty good, 612 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: and well we'll get him on the field and see 613 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: what he does. And then he works out really well, 614 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, we gotta meet this guy. 615 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: Maybe he sucks, and then people are saying, well, he 616 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: doesn't really suck that bad. It just keeps getting better 617 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: and better. It feels like you can physically see this 618 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: guy rising up boards every single day, and it's wild. 619 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember a time where one guy changed opinions 620 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: or change the conversation around what those opinions could be 621 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL so consistently every single day. It feels like, 622 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: i mean, even throughout the course of doing this podcast, 623 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: my evaluation of him and my thoughts about him have 624 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: changed from before we started too. After you guys were 625 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: talking about his workout and your evaluations of him, it 626 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: just seems like he's rising higher and higher every time. 627 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens as he goes on his thirty visits, 628 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, when he starts to meet with clubs on 629 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: a more intimate level and start to really get in 630 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: there and have you know, start to hear the rumors 631 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: and things kind of milling about about what he's like 632 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: when he gets on a white board, and what's he 633 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: like when he meets with staffs and that kind of stuff. 634 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: But it has been wild to me how much the 635 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: opinion of him has changed in such a short amount 636 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: of time. Your story, coach, your favorite story. Sellon Peyton's 637 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: coming back. Ah, I was a big in circles. I 638 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: moved with and I talked to Sellen for quite a 639 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: while there. And the fact that he got Mike Westoff 640 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: to come out of retirement. If you don't know Mike 641 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: Westoff's name, I mean, this is a special team's guru 642 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: of all gurus, you know. I mean he started in 643 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. He and I passed in the hall 644 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: at TCU. I was coming into TCU. He thought he 645 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: was done. He wrote his book Check it Out. I mean, 646 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: he wrote his book his books called Figured it Out. 647 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: He wrote a book. He figured he was done. Twenty eighteen, 648 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: bone cancer's got a rod in his leg. I mean, 649 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But Sean Payton and then I talked 650 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: to west Off, talked to him into coming back and 651 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: so and so that was very interesting to me, and 652 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: just Sean Payton being back because that whole thing in 653 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: Denver last year was a disaster and now it's not 654 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: so much a disaster, and so that was a big 655 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: story for me. You know, I always watch to see 656 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: a guy who maybe didn't have a whole lot of 657 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: production that you wanted to see in college, came from 658 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: high profile program and then really turns it on at 659 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: the combine and it turns out he's got a great personality. 660 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: That's Nolan Smith from Georgia, and they were one of 661 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: the first groups to work out last week and he 662 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: blew it away. You know, he had a great forty 663 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: time and forty inch vertical and the whole deal. And 664 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: then he had this awesome interview with Stacy Dales off 665 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: Network on field the next morning. As I'm coming my 666 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: way down to you guys, I run into Stacy Dales 667 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, great interview with him, What a 668 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: cool young man, And she goes, oh, thank you for that. 669 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: But I defer to him, and I was we were 670 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: just talking about the person that he appears to be, 671 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: because he was the one guy I told you of 672 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: the first group that spoke at the podiums that week. 673 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: He held court for twenty minutes, and it just it 674 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: wasn't that he was just ripping, you know, Rodney Dangerfield 675 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: one liners. I mean, he had there's a person there 676 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: who is likable. He just notices. He's observant, Like in 677 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: his interview with Stacy Damis, he's talking about the new 678 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: restaurant that they have at the University of Georgia's campus 679 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: and the lady that runs it and shout out to her. 680 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: He knows he's one of those people that he knows 681 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: everybody in the He'll know everybody in the building when 682 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: he comes into whoever drafts him. And it was just 683 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: an interesting to see that young man operate in what 684 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Coach Mac always talks about being every day's an interview. 685 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: I think he passed the interview For me. It was 686 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: Houston and Indianapolis and their changes and what they're gonna 687 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: look like going forward, a new coach in each place, 688 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: basically new staffs in each place. Both probably going to 689 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the top five according to where 690 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: they end up right now, Houston's two and Indy's four. 691 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: We'll see where they stay. But it is the dawn 692 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: of a new era for those two teams. So you've 693 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: got that to consider. And Jacksonville very much is walking 694 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: around like the champs right now. They are the champs 695 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: and they've got Calvin Ridley who's been reinstated to go, 696 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, with Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram was franchised, 697 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: and they got Zay Jones and you know, Travis etn 698 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: and I mean they are fully convinced they got it. 699 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: And Doug Peterson's talking about our window is open, and 700 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: here we go. They lost nine games last year, they 701 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: went they went ten and nine. You know, if you 702 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: consider the playoffs. Now, they got hot down the stretch 703 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: and they improved the second half and they were the 704 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: best team in the division. But I think everybody is 705 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of sleeping on the Titans right now. Anybody who 706 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: thinks that Titans are rebuilding is making a bad mistake. 707 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: So maybe Jacksonville's time. We've got the two people who've 708 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: made the big changes also in the division, and now 709 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: I think everybody's waiting to see what the Titans do 710 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: as we move toward free agency and the next look. Well, Mike, 711 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: we had a chance to talk to a bunch of 712 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: different people, including all of the all of the play 713 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: by play guys for everyone around her PAFC South. That 714 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: was an interesting conversation. But I would be interested to 715 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: know who was your favorite person that we interviewed at 716 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: the combine. Cynthia Freeland. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the analytics 717 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: part of it. I'm fascinated by what she does and 718 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: how they gather that, and I'm trying to learn as 719 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: much as i can about how all of that works. 720 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: Based on the fact that the Titans are going to 721 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: be more of an analytics based team. They were headed 722 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: that way with John Robinson and he had started to 723 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: make a lot of turns towards that, and obviously Ran 724 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: Carthon comes in from a San Francisco franchise that uses 725 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: them in a very different way, and I'm interested to 726 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: learn what that means towards what our players are gonna 727 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: look like in terms of how they stack up and 728 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: what they're looking for, but also specifically how the roster 729 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: will look. So she she provides a lot of insight. 730 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: We got to talk to her for a lot, well, 731 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: I should say coach Matt got to talk to her 732 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: for a long time year. He spent a lot of 733 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: time with her. But we got to listen and she's fascinating. Yeah, 734 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: for me, it was Judy Batista, a long time writer 735 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: of NFL media, a lady well respected to her circles. Uh, 736 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: you know you talked about, you know, reading her columns 737 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: and things for a long time the same way, and 738 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, very connected with the league and the top people, 739 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: and really enjoyed the visit with her, and you know, 740 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: the the top storylines that are evolving for the new 741 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: fiscal year, Santhia Freeland without a doubt, kind it written 742 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: down Mike and had didn't talk about this. I mean, 743 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't text with him like Peyton Manning does. But wow, 744 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: you know it's funny you'd say that I've just got 745 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: I've just gotten a text right now, I've just got 746 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: that I've just gotten floor before. No, we're not editing 747 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 1: this right now. I have just gotten a text from 748 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: Archie Manning. Outstand. Uh he he texted me wrongly, he said, Mike, 749 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: this is Archie wrong text. Sorry, all the best Archie. 750 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: So that just happened literally one minute ago. That's the 751 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: best to my point. Wait, that's awesome. My dad still 752 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: contends Archie Manning was better than Eli or Peyton. By 753 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: the way, He's correct. Archie Manning was a hell of 754 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: an athlete. Yeah, that's just on a really bad team. 755 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: Was on a really bad team. His contention is if 756 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: he played in these kinds of offenses today, he would 757 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes. Yes he was that. He was that 758 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: spec tacular as an as an overall athlete. This really 759 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: took a left turn, all right. So coach McK and, 760 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: I say, Centia Freeland, Amy, who do you say? I say, 761 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Judy Battista, like Rhett So there you go. We all 762 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: were doubling up. Then do you think it was bad 763 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: when I said to Judy Battista, I started reading your 764 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: columns when I was a kid. Yeah, I wouldn't as 765 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: a general rule. Well, and she's not much she's like 766 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: just months older than I am, so that that wouldn't 767 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: have been true. I did say. I did tell her 768 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: after the fact, though, that I started reading her stuff 769 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen nineties just as a fan of 770 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Loved the NFL followed the NFL closely, and 771 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: she was one of those before Adam Schefter and before 772 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: Ian Rappapord and all of the quote unquote insiders. Really 773 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 1: the only insider was Chris Mortenson. That was it. And 774 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: Judy Battista got stuff. And she was an excellent reporter 775 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: and excellent writer. And she has a lot of the 776 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: good on field stuff, but rules changes what's gonna happen 777 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: in Washington, stuff like that. I mean stuff that comes 778 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: out of the owner's meeting, well, the stuff that comes 779 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: out of Park Avenue. If something's coming out of the 780 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: NFL office, Judy Batista gets it. And that's what makes 781 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: her so interesting to me, because you can talk to 782 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: her about anything and she knows something about it, and 783 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: she knows it from an angle that you either haven't 784 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: heard or haven't considered, because her sources are so much 785 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: different than anybody else's that you're getting in the NFL. 786 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: And I just I think she's so cool and she's 787 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: so smart. And I started reading her when she was 788 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: at the New York Times, and so I always just 789 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: thought that she was the pinnacle of sports reporting, and 790 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: so being able to talk to her was, oh yeah, 791 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's like one of the political reporters or 792 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: the White House reporters of the congressional reporters, are one 793 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: of the financial reporters on Wall Street that you when 794 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: they come on, you go, yes, I'm watching that. Judy 795 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: Batista is not getting things off Twitter. No like that is. 796 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: She is a whole different level. It's a franchise. Yeah, yep, 797 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: she's just cool. She is an absolute franchise. Well, great 798 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: job Amy Wells in Indianapolis. Great job Brett Brian coach mcnos. 799 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: He does a great job and everybody loves him. And 800 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: h Ashley Farrell, fantastic job. Thank you so much for 801 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: all you did. I don't know if you've enjoyed ten 802 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 1: straight days of the OTP ot people. Maybe it's too much. 803 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Maybe it is. I mean, 804 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not really sure. Maybe 805 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: it's too much. So maybe you've thought to yourself, please stop, 806 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: please stop with all these OTPs. If we're bothering you, 807 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: We're one. This is the last one for for a minute. Yeah, 808 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: well we'll see if now we told you the thing 809 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: in the gym Why OTP Mailbag Show on Sunday, and 810 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: he mentioned the non tampering policy, UM, that we can't 811 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: set around to do any speculation that we do know, 812 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: we don't know, I don't know anything, um, because the 813 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: whole thing is, uh, if we do, we'll get fined 814 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: or fired or and I don't want really don't want 815 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: to do that. That would be that would be a negative. 816 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: It could ruin your day. Yeah. Yeah, So we're not 817 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: going to do that. We're not. And what it means, 818 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: seriously is we can't discuss any speculation positive, negative, or 819 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: in between, because the league has made it clear, because 820 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: we Amy and I are team employees, that anything we 821 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: say in regard to speculation could be seen as an 822 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: effort put forward specifically by the team to sort of 823 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: change a mindset or throw somebody off or whatever. U 824 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: as if we were being given information in order to 825 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: put it out there in a way to help our 826 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: team's position. And that's a competitive advantage issue that has 827 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: come into being now with the non tampering period coming in. 828 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: So if there's news that specifically we can talk about, 829 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: if something has happened, then we will come on and 830 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: talk about it. The thing that I would caution you 831 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: about the majority of the reports that will come out 832 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: about various things around the league, I'd say in excess 833 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: of ninety five are true. But just remember that until somebody, 834 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: until a team has made an official move, or a 835 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: player has made an official move or anything, it's not 836 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: or they've taken their physical. Nothing is official until the 837 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: teams say it's official. Not because the teams are like 838 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: we are the Wizard of Oz and we're doing not 839 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: for that reason, which is why I'm saying the majority 840 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: of the great majority of the reporter you will see 841 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: is correct. But that's the hold back that I would 842 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: caution you on because every year there's a situation where 843 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: so and so has agreed to terms. You have a 844 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: Carlos Krea deal like in baseball, where he'd agreed in 845 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: terms of the Giants, he'd agreed to terms of the Mets, 846 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: and he didn't end up with either one of them. 847 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: And that happens in football. There's always a guy who 848 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: flunks a physical or a trade doesn't go through the 849 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 1: right way, and that's why you have to just as 850 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: coach Mack says, hold your water yep, keep your powder dry. 851 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: Tis the season for Twitter to just go ballistic. So yes, right. 852 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the things that you'll see probably correct. However, 853 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot that has to happen between the initial 854 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: report and it actually being final, and there are a 855 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of things that can change within that. So until 856 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: a team says this happened, it's because it has officially 857 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: legally it is done. It goes into the wire transfers 858 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: at three o'clock Central time. If it doesn't appear on 859 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: the wire transfer that they put out every day at 860 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: three o'clock Central, it's not official, and we come in 861 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: when it is official, legally done, we have to post 862 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: the transactions on NFL communications dot Com. There it is there, 863 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, that's exactly right. So that's the we 864 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: want to tell the OT people the facts about you know, 865 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: all of this and hopefully through the course of starting 866 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 1: a week ago Monday and through today Wednesday, March the eighth, 867 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: we're just very appreciative that you've tuned in. Hopefully you've 868 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: gotten some insight. Our hope is that you can go 869 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: to work and talk to all your friends and be 870 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: the smartest one in the group. That's how we want 871 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: to help the OT people most and entertain you as well. 872 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: So for Coach Mack for Amy Wells, for Rett Bryan, 873 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: for Ashley Farrell, I'm Mike Key, thanking you for listening 874 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: to the O T T. Welcome to the Big Show 875 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: where the legends go. Everybody knows it's our house, fighting 876 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: thought Tennessee, making it to read Greatness is meant to 877 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: be