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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Ivan Smith

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Speaker 1: with us, author of Chosen, Recollections of UFO Abductions through Hypnotherapy, Coronado,

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Speaker 1: the President, the Secret Service, and Alien Abductions, a true

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Speaker 1: account about a mass abduction which occurred back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety four, her latest book Chosen, from the Alien Hybrid

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Speaker 1: Program to the Fate of the Planet. Now. In these

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Speaker 1: works she has taken the time to reveal explicit in

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Speaker 1: dramatic transcripts of clients describing these events during hypnotherapy. They're

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Speaker 1: recollections of alien encounters and abductions. And Ivan, welcome. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to our luncheon next Tuesday. I am huge

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Speaker 1: or thank you for having me on tonight. You're going

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Speaker 1: to have a great time with our Coast to Coast listeners,

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Speaker 1: some of whom could be abductees. I would not be surprised, George,

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Speaker 1: this is such a widespread phenomenon than any but he

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Speaker 1: would want to even imagine the general public. But it

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Speaker 1: is very widespread. So um, this is why it's important

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Speaker 1: for shows like yours to talk about this, to bring

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Speaker 1: this to continue bringing this out in the open. You

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Speaker 1: were probably too young. But do you remember later on

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Speaker 1: in life the Barney and Betty Hill case? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I was. In fact, it was my mother who introduced

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Speaker 1: me to that case because she read it. Mind did

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Oh. I think it was Look Mad

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Speaker 1: Look magazine. It was on the cover and I came

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Speaker 1: home from school and she said, you know, Evan, look

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Speaker 1: at this. I can't believe that these people were on

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Speaker 1: a spaceship. You always very fortunate to grow up with

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Speaker 1: parents who were very open minded, and we could we

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Speaker 1: discussed things like that. So it was my mother who

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Speaker 1: introduced me to Betty and Barney Hill. And I remember

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Speaker 1: my parents sitting at the dinner table talking about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two fly over the US capital of several

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Speaker 1: flying saucers. I think that was in July of fifty two,

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Speaker 1: and so, you know, we discussed these things. Of course,

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Speaker 1: back then, I mean, I had no idea I would

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Speaker 1: ever be doing this work. I was in school and

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Speaker 1: I did all these teenage things, you know, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was just really nice once I did get

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Speaker 1: into my work that my parents were actually very proud

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Speaker 1: of what I was doing and you know, very interested.

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Speaker 1: So I was fortunate in that way. But I do

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Speaker 1: work with a lot of people where they can't even

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Speaker 1: talk about this to the a spouse or a family member,

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Speaker 1: and of course not a coworker, because it's still very taboo.

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to work towards bringing this out in

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Speaker 1: the open so that people aren't afraid to talk about

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Speaker 1: it or lose their jobs or they're standing in their community.

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Speaker 1: I mean, George, we're in twenty nineteen. Now we have

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Speaker 1: to talk about this. Well, we have to. It's so important.

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Speaker 1: And did you ever expect, Yvonne, that you would be

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Speaker 1: doing this for a career. Oh, absolutely not. I've worked

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Speaker 1: for almost ten years for the Los Angeles Superior Court

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Speaker 1: System and so that was just a totally the opposite

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Speaker 1: of what I'm doing now. But I truly feel that,

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Speaker 1: you know, many times we are we are put in

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Speaker 1: a in our path for whatever reason. I think I

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Speaker 1: was directed to do this without sounding you know, too

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Speaker 1: metaphysical or you know, out there. I really feel now

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Speaker 1: after doing this for twenty eight years, that I was

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Speaker 1: now happening with the research, and that's why I wrote

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Speaker 1: my third book, Chosen. The second part of this book

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Speaker 1: talks about the what I call the urgency that experiencers

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Speaker 1: are now talking about. I don't know if you've heard

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Speaker 1: this from other people, George, but I've been hearing this

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Speaker 1: now for a good five years of experiencers, and I

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Speaker 1: use the word interchangeably abductees, experiencers telling me that they

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Speaker 1: feel that something is happening. They're not positive stories either.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of scary. They're a little they can be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's making any kind of predictions, but

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Speaker 1: I have I have at least two people a week,

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Speaker 1: these new people are saying the same thing. They tell me,

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Speaker 1: what it is. But they come to me because they

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Speaker 1: they want to they feel that there's if something did

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking now. What makes it legitimate for me is

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Speaker 1: because I work with these people very you know, one

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Speaker 1: on one. No one's predicting anything, no one's predicting a date,

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Speaker 1: but they all feel that sense of urgency. They feel

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Speaker 1: need to be prepared. And you know what, here we are, Yvonne,

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Speaker 1: where we've lost Budd Hopkins, a great investigator into alien abductions,

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Speaker 1: doctor John Mack. I mean, these two were the Krem

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Speaker 1: Della Crem, weren't they absolutely? And I had I had

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Speaker 1: of course David Jacobs, who is now retired, but we

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Speaker 1: all traveled together to different conferences throughout the United States

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Speaker 1: of the nineties, and I have the opportunity to sit

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Speaker 1: down with them. You know, at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day at the conference you sit at, they have a

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Speaker 1: couple of drinks and you compare notes. And here I

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Speaker 1: am the rookie, you know, and among these greats, and

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Speaker 1: I ask you have any of you have this in

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Speaker 1: your case or that in your cases? And you know,

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Speaker 1: drawings and I just I was able to just compare

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Speaker 1: I sat in on a few of the regressions he did.

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Speaker 1: That's how I was trained to do the abduction work.

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Speaker 1: So I feel very honored in your opinion. What is

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Speaker 1: the alien abduction program? Well, I feel now that the

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Speaker 1: hybridization program is very central to what they are doing.

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Speaker 1: What they're the alien agenda is central and key the

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Speaker 1: same phrase I would guess, right, Yes, I really feel

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Speaker 1: that at this point because men and women experience of

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Speaker 1: the removal of sperm, removal of over being shown babies

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Speaker 1: being abducted time and time again, being shown their children

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Speaker 1: at different stages of growth, and telling them that they

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Speaker 1: need to bond with these children. So what the ultimate

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Speaker 1: goal is for these hybrids, you know, I don't know yet.

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Speaker 1: I feel though, and I never could have said this

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Speaker 1: here among us. You know, it's interesting the Russians want

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Speaker 1: to have a baby born in space. Somebody should tell

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Speaker 1: them it's already been done. Yeah, yeah, been there, done

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Speaker 1: that probably a zillion times exactly. Yeah, you know, it

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Speaker 1: sounds so science fiction. People who you know don't even

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Speaker 1: in our skies. But we're really past that now, George,

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Speaker 1: you know we're past do these things exist? I hear

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Speaker 1: through three theories. One is that these aliens need hybrids

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Speaker 1: to take over planet Earth with their own kind, the hybrids.

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Speaker 1: At any given moment, they are training them, raising them,

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Speaker 1: and that they'll bring them here to replace us. And

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Speaker 1: then three, they care about us, but they figure that

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Speaker 1: something could happen to the environment, we might not be

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Speaker 1: able to sustain ourselves. Hence they bring in the hybrids

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Speaker 1: of those three? Oh gosh, I've heard those as well.

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Speaker 1: You know it could be all of the above, George M.

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Speaker 1: I wish you know I had more of a definitive answer,

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Speaker 1: because I'm asked that all the time. I know that

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Speaker 1: my colleague David Jacobs his theory and when he wrote

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Speaker 1: in this book, I believe it's walking among US feels

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Speaker 1: that they are the hybrids, are being trained by some

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Speaker 1: of the abductees to live among us, and that they will,

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Speaker 1: you know, they will in a sense take over. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I hate talking like invasion of the body, but it's possible.

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Speaker 1: It's possible, of course, and that's one scenario that I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I hope that doesn't happen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel that they need us. Of course, they needs

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Speaker 1: for our material, for our DNA UM, and I so

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Speaker 1: I feel they will live among us. Um maybe because

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Speaker 1: they're afraid we can't sustain ourselves. They might they might

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Speaker 1: be coming down here to help us. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but look look at what years and

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Speaker 1: years and years these alien beings have been telling abductees

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Speaker 1: That you know, we are destroying our planet. They're very

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Speaker 1: as you know, George, they're very worried about our nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 1: and they should be here. We are, you know, the

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Speaker 1: dumb humans. You know, we don't know what we're doing. UM.

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Speaker 1: So it's that's why i'm you know, I'm I'm still

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Speaker 1: because they have PTSD and UM, that's my first goal

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Speaker 1: is to help someone. You know, we all we all

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Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, can you make it stop?

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Speaker 1: You know, I wish I could. It runs in a

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Speaker 1: generational That's probably going to be my next book about

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Speaker 1: the family affair, the family connection. So it's very very deep,

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