Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. I'm in a gymnasium. Now. I know
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Dressed for the part, because Devin, I ain't here to play.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to play. It's not what I do
Speaker 2: these days. Okay, I talk about folks that play, all right.
Speaker 2: But I had to talk to this next brother, and
Speaker 2: I had to come to his spot because the nickname
Speaker 2: is Lee through Shooter, that's what everybody knows him as.
Speaker 2: And the people that he's worked with, we see their
Speaker 2: numbers increasing, and he'll tell us all about that.
Speaker 1: But clearly I had.
Speaker 2: The pleasure of meeting him, got a lot of love
Speaker 2: for him, a lot of respect for the work that
Speaker 2: he's been doing for years now.
Speaker 1: And now he's all over Instagram, all over.
Speaker 2: Social media, dropping trick shots from fifty feet away, damn
Speaker 2: near twenty five thirty yards away.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is say about it.
Speaker 2: All I know is that what we've seen is real
Speaker 2: and he's worthy of this interview. His name is mister
Speaker 2: Chris Matthews, the Lee through Shooter himself. What's up, big time?
Speaker 2: How were you man?
Speaker 3: How's everything doing? Good man?
Speaker 4: Thank you for coming here. I man, this is a
Speaker 4: dream come true. You're one of the people that I've
Speaker 4: always wont you know, to speak with in this type
Speaker 4: of way. So thank you for showing up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Please just well deserved, well deserved. I mean when they
Speaker 2: call you Lethrough shooter. First of all, when did that
Speaker 2: nick name that name that that nickname of yours? When
Speaker 2: did that come about? How long ago? Wu did that
Speaker 2: take place?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I grew up in the DC area. You know.
Speaker 4: Growing up in DC, we had to play at the park.
Speaker 4: We didn't really playing indoors as much as our kids
Speaker 4: do now. So outside my dad used to call me lethal,
Speaker 4: but not shooter. So when I started my social media
Speaker 4: I didn't know what the name myself on on IG
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, let me just call myself
Speaker 4: lethal shooter because my dad used always call me lethal
Speaker 4: when I was at the park hooping all the old heads,
Speaker 4: you know, getting getting my nose bus getting my teeth
Speaker 4: knocked out of my mouth. My Daddy'd be like, man,
Speaker 4: you Lethrough, keep going, keep knocking down lethal. So that's
Speaker 4: the name that stuck with me to this day. How
Speaker 4: do you like it?
Speaker 2: I mean, now that it is stuck and it's fit
Speaker 2: and whatever, what does it meant to you because obviously
Speaker 2: people look at you now and they don't have any
Speaker 2: problem with that nick name because they see what you
Speaker 2: do in the basketball court.
Speaker 4: It means a lot, you know what, I mean to
Speaker 4: have a name that's a unique type of name as well,
Speaker 4: and especially a positive name. So at first, when I
Speaker 4: first started my brand, people try to tie a lethrough
Speaker 4: shooter to a gunplay. And then people start realizing all
Speaker 4: the posts that I do, everything I do is positive,
Speaker 4: and that's what my brand is based on. Being staying
Speaker 4: locked in and just teaching people to give it up
Speaker 4: is never an option. So for people to know who
Speaker 4: I am as lethal shooter, it's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Let's get into the mechanics and just basketball for a second.
Speaker 1: On this perspective, what do you Is it really just.
Speaker 2: About scentages when you look at a guy and just
Speaker 2: getting the ball in the hole or is there some
Speaker 2: other elements, some other ingredients that makes for somebody ultimately
Speaker 2: becoming quote unquote a lethrough shooter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question.
Speaker 4: So last year I had the honor to be with
Speaker 4: Grayson Allen for the full season, and it's not just
Speaker 4: going to gym just throwing up shots.
Speaker 3: I'm very technical, especially with footwork.
Speaker 4: I'm not the type of shooting coach that try to
Speaker 4: make a lot of changes, But if a lot of
Speaker 4: changes are needed, I will make those changes. And a
Speaker 4: good example is when I was full time with Grant Williams.
Speaker 3: When he was with the Celtics. Okay, that I made
Speaker 3: a lot of changes.
Speaker 4: I changed his hand placement, I changed the way he
Speaker 4: goes into his jump shot.
Speaker 3: I changed his footwork.
Speaker 1: Now this is Grant Williams before he football blocked former
Speaker 1: teammate and at it go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was with him for a full season.
Speaker 4: But that full season when he finished I think top
Speaker 4: three in the NBA, I.
Speaker 3: Changed the whole shot.
Speaker 4: Okay, But Grayson Island when I was with him, I
Speaker 4: didn't need to change a lot. We just changed small things.
Speaker 4: So the way that I train different people is not
Speaker 4: the same. So if I train a Jalen Brown or
Speaker 4: Grayson Aland or Cotavis Cober Pope or Michael Porter Junior,
Speaker 4: I don't do the same concepts because they're all different people,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So how do you determine what is good for one
Speaker 2: client compared to another in terms.
Speaker 3: Of the shooter.
Speaker 1: Is it their technique? Is it the speed with which
Speaker 1: they get rid of the ball? You brought up footwork
Speaker 1: and what have you. It does it? How much do
Speaker 1: their positioning?
Speaker 2: For example, you could be a shooting guard you got
Speaker 2: one responsibility, and point guard you got another, small full
Speaker 2: powerful you got another responsibility, et cetera, et cetera. What
Speaker 2: goes into you deciding what kind of changes you need
Speaker 2: to make with a particular athlete.
Speaker 4: So I ask the client to show me everything that
Speaker 4: they like to work Already, I've already studied them on synergy.
Speaker 4: I understand what they need to work on as well.
Speaker 4: So once they showed me, I'll do it myself. So
Speaker 4: when they're with me, I'll do it and I'll shoot
Speaker 4: out of it. So a good example, which is a
Speaker 4: really good question. A Jalen Brown shoots different shots in
Speaker 4: the Grayson Allen Grayson Allen has the luxury of playing
Speaker 4: with the Kevin Durant, but unfortunately Jalen Brown or his team,
Speaker 4: he is Kevin Durant. So if Jalen Brown, a lot
Speaker 4: of our workouts were stuff off the dribble to shoot.
Speaker 4: But last season, as you saw shooting catch and shoots
Speaker 4: the balance was better. You know what I'm saying, The
Speaker 4: follow three was better because those are things that we
Speaker 4: had to take into consideration to get the shooting percentage
Speaker 4: better when you have to take so many shots. So
Speaker 4: somebody said, well, well, Jaylen Brown didn't shoot forty two
Speaker 4: percent from three last year, but he doesn't have the
Speaker 4: luxury of a Grayson Allen to have two superstars with
Speaker 4: Devin Booker and Kevin Durant kicking him the ball.
Speaker 3: Where Grayson last year shot forty six percent.
Speaker 4: So I do change different ways on how I train
Speaker 4: that person to fit within that system.
Speaker 3: And another good example was like last.
Speaker 4: Year, if you look at Katavis called well Pope, and
Speaker 4: the year before that when they won a championship, he
Speaker 4: was alone side Michael Porter. So the year they won
Speaker 4: a championship, I had Michael Porter and Contavi's called Pope
Speaker 4: the same year. But the thing that they were doing
Speaker 4: wrong was they weren't using each other and complimenting each
Speaker 4: other on the same side. They were just watching your
Speaker 4: kich this the whole time. But as a shooter, you
Speaker 4: can't do that. If you sit and just watch somebody,
Speaker 4: you'll throw yourself out of rhythm.
Speaker 3: So what you have to do.
Speaker 1: You need to move.
Speaker 4: You need to move, and when you're when you're moving,
Speaker 4: what it does is it keeps you in sync with
Speaker 4: your teammates. You know, and as a shooter, you need
Speaker 4: to always be alert because as a shooter, when you're
Speaker 4: not alert, you're not receptive to the game. So I
Speaker 4: was telling these guys, let's compliment each other. You get
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So a KCP, if you catch it
Speaker 4: and Michael Porter is open and you know you have
Speaker 4: a wide upus shot, still kick it to him.
Speaker 3: And then when he hits the shot, congratulate him. Michael Porter.
Speaker 4: If you're if you drive and kick and you might
Speaker 4: have a lay up or something and you see KCP open,
Speaker 4: kick it to them. Because what it does is it
Speaker 4: builds a good energy of shooters when you're connected to
Speaker 4: your teammate.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, however, how challenging is it for you to
Speaker 2: give that kind of advice when you're their shooting coach,
Speaker 2: but you ain't their head coach. That kind of dictates
Speaker 2: and get fluid is what kind of paper they get,
Speaker 2: you see? So if I'm Mike Malone and Lee through
Speaker 2: Shooter is giving KCP a piece of advice that I
Speaker 2: might disagree with.
Speaker 1: How does that work out?
Speaker 2: If I'm doc Rivers in Milwaukee and Lee through Shooter
Speaker 2: is giving somebody like a Damian Lillard or Chris Middleton,
Speaker 2: assuming he's healthy enough to be on a damn court,
Speaker 2: don't get me started with him. If you're giving them
Speaker 2: some kind of advice like that, how how do you
Speaker 2: make sure that what you're advising doesn't conflict with what
Speaker 2: kind of guidance or advice they're receiving from the actual
Speaker 2: coach who determines their playing.
Speaker 3: That's a really good question.
Speaker 4: So nine point nine out of ten, when I'm training
Speaker 4: a client, I let the coaches sit in on the workouts.
Speaker 4: So last year when I had Jalen Brown, Tony Dobbins
Speaker 4: was in on the workouts just a few days ago.
Speaker 4: One of the teams I just helped, the shooting coach
Speaker 4: was there. So what I do is, I'm not just
Speaker 4: going in there if you're the Bucks. Is a good
Speaker 4: example because when I had Bobby Porters, he was top
Speaker 4: three in the NBA.
Speaker 3: I was with a full field season.
Speaker 4: I would never go in and tell him something different
Speaker 4: than what the coach does, because the coach is gonna
Speaker 4: sit and see the workout.
Speaker 3: So I'll ask.
Speaker 4: Them, hey, is it okay for Bobby Ports to shoot
Speaker 4: a mid range jump shot? Yes, because there are some
Speaker 4: teams that tell elite shooters we don't want any mid
Speaker 4: range jump shots.
Speaker 2: And today, especially if you're playing for a guy like
Speaker 2: Mike D'Antoni, yeah, the three all layup and he would
Speaker 2: actually bent you if you shot a two point shot.
Speaker 4: And that's a good example because I've had clients where
Speaker 4: their team said, if you have a mid range jump shot.
Speaker 3: Do not take it. Either shoot a three or go
Speaker 3: all the way to the rim.
Speaker 4: So what I'll do is I'll ask the player, hey,
Speaker 4: is it possible that you can talk to your coaches
Speaker 4: and let them know that if you get a rhythm
Speaker 4: inside the mid range, it can help on the outside.
Speaker 4: So I've had players I'm not going to say their names,
Speaker 4: but they went to the coaches and say, hey, I
Speaker 4: know you want me to take the three, but when
Speaker 4: i'm pump faking the guy's running off, I.
Speaker 3: Need to take a rhythm dribble to make an easier shot.
Speaker 4: And if you look at the elites, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker,
Speaker 4: Klay Thompson, Steph Curry.
Speaker 3: What are they master the mid range jump shot?
Speaker 4: So to me, when I'm training to client and all
Speaker 4: he has to do is slang up threes, it's hard
Speaker 4: to be an efficient three point shooter that way. Same
Speaker 4: with Grace not last year. The reason why he led
Speaker 4: the NBA three a percentage because he was knocking down
Speaker 4: the mid range shots. So what I'll do is I'll
Speaker 4: talk to the coaching staff. I have my player talk
Speaker 4: to the coaching staff so we're all on the same
Speaker 4: page because it's not about me, it's about the team.
Speaker 4: So if the coach does say, hey, we don't want
Speaker 4: them to take the mid range, so cool. We have
Speaker 4: to make the training based on what the coach wants.
Speaker 2: Educate my viewers and my listeners about your background, your
Speaker 2: basketball background, and what have you. I know you played
Speaker 2: college ball, I know you're played high school ball. I
Speaker 2: don't give a damn that you didn't play pro ball.
Speaker 2: I've seen plenty of people that. I mean, we got
Speaker 2: coaches and general managers and presidents of basketball operations that
Speaker 2: never played the lick of basketball. Nobody's complaining about them.
Speaker 2: So I'm certainly not throwing any shade your way, but
Speaker 2: I want you to educate the audience about your background
Speaker 2: that led to you being who you are today.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I've been blessed to play elite high school basketball
Speaker 4: my whole life. In high school, I played for National
Speaker 4: Christian Academy, where I played with Kevin Durant for two years.
Speaker 3: We won the championship.
Speaker 4: I was a McDonald All American nominee Jordan nominee. I
Speaker 4: went to play prep school at Lutheran, which we were
Speaker 4: number one and the entire nay.
Speaker 3: I was a number one shooting guard in prep school.
Speaker 4: I went to go play at Washington State, as you know,
Speaker 4: for Tony Bennett, one of the best coaches I ever had.
Speaker 4: We went to the Sweet sixteen. I didn't play as much,
Speaker 4: but what a lot of people don't understand is it's
Speaker 4: not about always playing a lot of minutes in those
Speaker 4: types of systems. It's about soaking up the journey and learning.
Speaker 4: And from there, I went to Saint Bonaventure, where I
Speaker 4: broke all the records at Saint Bonaventure, all the three
Speaker 4: point records. I was number one in the conference and
Speaker 4: three pointers made Number one in field goal percentage, I
Speaker 4: was top five in the nation and three point three
Speaker 4: pointers made. And these are things that people know about me.
Speaker 4: And I actually did play pro for eight years overseas.
Speaker 4: These are things I won, like seven Cups overseas, I've
Speaker 4: won MVPs. But the NBA isn't for everybody. I was
Speaker 4: injury prone. My body is not really good with endurance.
Speaker 4: So what happened was when I was in South America,
Speaker 4: my lung collapsed. Yeah, so I almost died. I was
Speaker 4: shut down for like five months, and still to this day,
Speaker 4: even when I'm doing content for not to put brands
Speaker 4: out there. When I'm doing insane content, I have to
Speaker 4: take a break because my lungs and everything isn't the same.
Speaker 4: So that's what people have to understand about me, and
Speaker 4: not saying I didn't make it to the NBA because
Speaker 4: I had poldaria DMA. But my lungs did collapse and
Speaker 4: my lungs aren't the same. That's why I don't play
Speaker 4: in certain type of games and do stuff to push myself.
Speaker 4: But from there, I was blessed to just understand that
Speaker 4: God put me on earth to be a shooting coach.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I'm really big on not chasing things where you're just
Speaker 4: being redundant. I'm not gonna be a thirty five year
Speaker 4: old man still thinking I'm about to go to the NBA,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So I said, I'm gonna change
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: To be a coach.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, guess what, man. I tried to play college
Speaker 2: broad It wasn't successful. I could only dreamed about playing
Speaker 2: in Port War. It didn't get that close. I don't
Speaker 2: give a damn what any of y'all say. You gotta
Speaker 2: learn to tell me you kiss your ass.
Speaker 3: That's all right, you're doing.
Speaker 2: Well now, I'm doing well. So what we ain't played?
Speaker 2: Get over it? Okay, But let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: With all of that being said, you're also doing work
Speaker 2: for Nike, now right, Yes, tell everybody about that real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I'm blessed with a lot of people. Don't know
Speaker 4: because when people see my content, you know, I know,
Speaker 4: you know I want to tell him kss my ass
Speaker 4: online sometime I do because somebody's falls get my nerve.
Speaker 3: Good. I felt good. I didn't know we could say
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 4: But I do be needing it sometimes because I think
Speaker 4: sometimes online people think I'm just a content creator, but
Speaker 4: I'm actually a full time trainer for Nike and Jordan Brand,
Speaker 4: So I'm.
Speaker 1: Blessed to be How long has that been the case?
Speaker 3: Five years?
Speaker 4: But what people see online they see, you know, my
Speaker 4: insane content, but they don't know, you know, I'm the
Speaker 4: director of NIKEI Academy, which is the number one camp
Speaker 4: in the world, you know what I mean. I'm the
Speaker 4: scout for Nike where I go around and watch all
Speaker 4: of our young talent.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: In the last month, I've trained Brandon McCrory babbab which
Speaker 4: is number one, and it's a blessing to be able
Speaker 4: to help help these type of players to reach the
Speaker 4: next level.
Speaker 3: But this is what people don't know about me. You know.
Speaker 4: On Friday for Jordan Brand, I'm training one of the
Speaker 4: top high schools and I'm flying to New York.
Speaker 3: Then I'm flying to Chicago.
Speaker 4: I'm doing all these things, but everything isn't posted. This
Speaker 4: is what people don't know about me, if that makes sense,
Speaker 4: Like it is, the only thing is I use social
Speaker 4: media for what it's forward to entertain, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: But I do sometimes show people the back end of
Speaker 4: my life. So I wish people really knew what I
Speaker 4: really did on the back end.
Speaker 1: I need to show them now. They gonna know now,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: But listen, before we get into anything else, I gotta
Speaker 2: ask you this question. With that being said, you know shooters, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you shooting coach, yep, the shooting coach, the elite shooting
Speaker 2: coach in the country right now, if not the world,
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, Who's the best shooter that
Speaker 2: has ever played the game of basketball?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Who is that person? Chris Well? I want to say myself.
Speaker 4: You know, in life, you always want to say yourself.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That's like, okay, but I'm talking about NBA players right
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 4: I was about to get to that go ahead, but
Speaker 4: I gotta give it to Steph Curry. You know what
Speaker 4: Steph Curry does off the dribble, What he does going left,
Speaker 4: going right, step back left, step back right, off one leg.
Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody in my life never shoot the
Speaker 4: basketball the way he's shooting the basketball. And I tell
Speaker 4: you this, I look up to reality. I look up
Speaker 4: the Regi Miller, I look up the Craig Cards. Because
Speaker 4: I tell you one thing, I wouldn't be the shooter.
Speaker 4: I am if I didn't grow up watching them type
Speaker 4: of shooters. But what Steph Curry is doing off the
Speaker 4: dribble as a shooter and how far he can shoot?
Speaker 4: I don't think in my life I've ever seen anybody
Speaker 4: do this in my life, So I have to give
Speaker 4: it to Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong and surmising that?
Speaker 2: I think Klay Thompson is a top five shooter of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 4: I think so, But I think the power of social media.
Speaker 4: He has one bad game and not saying it was
Speaker 4: just one bad game, but it was a bad game.
Speaker 4: He went over ten in probably one of the biggest
Speaker 4: games maybe in his career. But the thing about social
Speaker 4: media is monkey see monkey do. When everybody keeps saying
Speaker 4: over tune over ten, people keep it going, people keep
Speaker 4: it going. But to me, Klay Thompson is top five
Speaker 4: of all time.
Speaker 1: I think he's top five as well. What about Larry Bird?
Speaker 1: Where would you put him?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: See?
Speaker 4: Larry Bird to me, wasn't just a shooter. I feel
Speaker 4: like he was an overall basketball.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: But if we were just a shooter, you think I'm
Speaker 2: just asking him. No, No, I say he was he was
Speaker 2: an overall all around BASKETBA player. The only reason I
Speaker 2: asked that is because some of the old hats always
Speaker 2: come up to me Bird Bird, like man Bird.
Speaker 1: Larry Bird, all of this stuff mentioned it Larry Bird.
Speaker 2: And I used to say this when people used to
Speaker 2: bring up Lebron and because Lebron obviously it's small for
Speaker 2: six ' eight to sixty, as versatile as he is,
Speaker 2: but primarily if you would listen to them as anything,
Speaker 2: it would be a point guard, an off card to
Speaker 2: be a small.
Speaker 1: I would say.
Speaker 2: I would always say, give me Lebron James all day,
Speaker 2: any day, for forty six minutes, give me Larry Bird
Speaker 2: for the last two That's how I felt because of
Speaker 2: his ability to shoot on the perimeter, unreal and free throws.
Speaker 2: Those two categories is what I would have given him
Speaker 2: over Lebron James. But there's no way I'm taking them
Speaker 2: over Lebron James. And the same applies with KD. By
Speaker 2: the way, I think about KD that way as well,
Speaker 2: give me again what KD. I wouldn't even need Larry
Speaker 2: Bird for the last two minutes because I think Bird
Speaker 2: KAD could do that too. But what do you think
Speaker 2: about Larry Bird as a shooter.
Speaker 4: Shit, I gotta say at least top eight if his
Speaker 4: only job was to shoot. I don't think kids understand
Speaker 4: what he was able to do. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And I respect Kay Thompson don't getting messed up. But
Speaker 4: he wasn't doing what Larry Bird was doing. But if
Speaker 4: Larry Bird came intoday's world and all he had to
Speaker 4: do was just be a shooter, he'd be higher than eight.
Speaker 3: You get where I'm coming from. But he had to
Speaker 3: do everything.
Speaker 4: The kids don't realize that the load that he was
Speaker 4: taking is the same as Lebron, and it was worse
Speaker 4: because they was hitting him more, and they hit Lebron
Speaker 4: these days. But if if Larry Berg was just a shooter,
Speaker 4: I would say top eight.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say, particularly the old school players,
Speaker 2: is great and undeniably great as Steph Curry has been
Speaker 2: if he had played in an earlier era. I've had
Speaker 2: Hall of Famous say to me, he wouldn't average twenty
Speaker 2: a game, they said, because we would have beat him up.
Speaker 2: We would have hit his elbows, we would have hit
Speaker 2: his wrists. We would showed them, we'd have tripped him up.
Speaker 2: We didn't need them we'd have took away some of
Speaker 2: the legs, et cetera, et cetera. Physically speaking, I'm not
Speaker 2: even talking about shooting right now, per se. Physically speaking,
Speaker 2: what do you believe one has to have in order
Speaker 2: to be a great shooter?
Speaker 1: Is it great conditioning? Is it strong legs?
Speaker 2: Is it having, you know, just being in sync with
Speaker 2: what your rhythm is, what your spots are. What is
Speaker 2: it that makes for a great shooting in that riga?
Speaker 4: Man, that's a really good question. So let's go to
Speaker 4: somebody like Bobby Porters. When I was with him for
Speaker 4: that year full time. When I first moved to Arkansas
Speaker 4: with him, his thighs wasn't as strong as they needed
Speaker 4: to be. He's big and strong, but the body wasn't
Speaker 4: cut the way it wanted. So I told him, can
Speaker 4: we speak to the way coach to get his thighs
Speaker 4: strong and to build up his his core, because as
Speaker 4: an elite shooter, you have to have strong legs and
Speaker 4: you have to have a strong core because what happens
Speaker 4: is over time, what happens in the game.
Speaker 3: The people who are in shape, they're shooting short.
Speaker 4: They can't get the ball on the ground, they can't
Speaker 4: do certain things and their brain goes dead. But the
Speaker 4: people who are in the best shape, the people will
Speaker 4: get up the most reps, game reps. I see a
Speaker 4: lot of people that take shots, and you know when
Speaker 4: people want to post for the ground the NBA guys
Speaker 4: in the summer to show they're working out some of
Speaker 4: the shots they're shooting.
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, bro, that.
Speaker 1: Was that, Damn Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3: That's what you do.
Speaker 2: You ain't naming names, but I'm gonna that damn Ben
Speaker 2: Simmons just to go out there pretty well.
Speaker 1: I caught them Zoolando, real models, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can see him on the basketball court.
Speaker 2: He looked the party looked real good, you understand, and
Speaker 2: you're going like this, what.
Speaker 1: The hell is he really really doing the work on
Speaker 1: his game?
Speaker 3: That's what?
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't let that go.
Speaker 3: But go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well you said the name, damn right.
Speaker 3: What I was saying, not you, I don't.
Speaker 4: But to be an elite shooter, every workout that you shoot,
Speaker 4: you have to shoot the shots that you're going to
Speaker 4: shoot in the game. And another good example is with
Speaker 4: Grant Williams. When I met Grant Williams respectfully. He was
Speaker 4: such a hard tank, and I said, bro, I love
Speaker 4: that your body's nice and strong, but some of this
Speaker 4: stuff we have to take down just a little bit,
Speaker 4: because well, you can't be a cock diesel shooter, if
Speaker 4: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Now, how long ago was this?
Speaker 4: You said dis to gram Grant Wims. I was with
Speaker 4: him full time for the Celtics when he was top
Speaker 4: three to NB.
Speaker 2: Okay, the reason I'm asking that is because that ain't
Speaker 2: the damn play I'm seeing right now. What's the last
Speaker 2: time you worked with you?
Speaker 3: About two and a half three years?
Speaker 2: Man, get your ass back with Chris matter with you,
Speaker 2: Grant Williams. Get your ass back here because you running
Speaker 2: people over the NBA. Get your ass back in this gym.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but that is huge.
Speaker 4: If anybody out there wants to be an elite shooter,
Speaker 4: your condition is important, Your thighs are important, your core
Speaker 4: is important, but most importantly your mind. If you want
Speaker 4: to be an elite shooter, you have to have the
Speaker 4: mindset of a killer.
Speaker 3: You can't allow somebody to get to you.
Speaker 4: And a good example, if somebody tap your elbow, are
Speaker 4: you going to complain to the for You're gonna focus
Speaker 4: on the next shot. If somebody talks about your mom
Speaker 4: or tries to disrespect you, are you gonna focus on them.
Speaker 3: We're gonna focus on the next shot. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you a good example.
Speaker 4: I don't think he was top tier like Klay Thompson
Speaker 4: shooting the three, But when Michael Jordan started taking more
Speaker 4: jump shots to evolve as he got older, people were
Speaker 4: doing stuff to him, but you couldn't bother him, if
Speaker 4: that makes sense, And that's what it takes to be
Speaker 4: an elite shooter. But in today's basketball, I feel like
Speaker 4: a lot of people that I watch NBA wise, they
Speaker 4: can be great shooters, but they get bothered too fast.
Speaker 4: And when I say bothered, they're always complaining to the refs,
Speaker 4: They're always complaining to the coaches.
Speaker 3: They're always complaining.
Speaker 4: If somebody taps them as they're running back on the court,
Speaker 4: they're talking to the defender. You gotta be dialed in,
Speaker 4: you gotta be focused, you gotta stay locked in if
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 3: To be elite.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna challenge you on something because you just
Speaker 2: said something that I think I gotta make sure, I
Speaker 2: gotta I.
Speaker 1: Gotta get clarity on this.
Speaker 2: Did you just say that somebody people used to try
Speaker 2: to bother Michael.
Speaker 1: Jordan's Did Jordan tell you that?
Speaker 3: Because let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Something that's not true. They was scared the death of them.
Speaker 3: They were scared.
Speaker 2: If anything, they were trying to be nice to him,
Speaker 2: so he wouldn't drop fifty on them.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean a wizard.
Speaker 2: Look, bro, even when he came to the Wizards, remember
Speaker 2: that preseason game where he dropped forty five and everybody
Speaker 2: was going crazy, like the old man dropping dropping for
Speaker 2: in his forties dropping forty five with the hell he's
Speaker 2: scared of living hell out of him.
Speaker 1: They were scared.
Speaker 2: Man, he scared them so much they still walk around
Speaker 2: scared about I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1: But let me I digress. Let me get back to this.
Speaker 2: So conditioning yes, leg strength yes, core strength yes.
Speaker 1: What about shoulders? What about the arms? How you squared
Speaker 1: up to the.
Speaker 3: Basket all yea. So everybody's different.
Speaker 4: So with a Grayson Allen, I would love for him
Speaker 4: to be squared up all the time. For Jalen Brown
Speaker 4: when he's wide open, I would love for him to
Speaker 4: be squared up.
Speaker 3: But it's some people like Bobby porters.
Speaker 4: How big his thighs are, it's hard for him to
Speaker 4: square all the way up to the basket. So I
Speaker 4: was figuring out different angles that he's turned a certain
Speaker 4: way that it's still lined up with the shot. Because
Speaker 4: at first, when he was playing with the Knicks, before
Speaker 4: I started training him, his he was turned to slanted
Speaker 4: and that's why his ball kept going left, if that
Speaker 4: makes sense. So it's not really something special on you know,
Speaker 4: everybody needs to be squared, everybody needs you a certain way.
Speaker 4: I changed the training to the person's body. And a
Speaker 4: good example is when I had Danny Green. I was
Speaker 4: his coach for the Corner three. He led the NBA
Speaker 4: that year. This is the Corner three. So but the
Speaker 4: thing with people know about Danny Green respectfully, he's a
Speaker 4: little boat legged.
Speaker 3: So the one thing.
Speaker 1: Bow legged, you're being quite nice.
Speaker 3: So the one thing I.
Speaker 4: Was noticing was when he was catching the ball in
Speaker 4: the corner, his rhythm was off because of high his
Speaker 4: legs was. So I gave him this certain type of
Speaker 4: rhythm before he caught the basketball, so not to be funny,
Speaker 4: so his legs won't affect the corner shot.
Speaker 3: And it worked, It worked, It worked.
Speaker 1: How the hell you see all of this?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you're watching film, spent the time
Speaker 2: instead of watching the movies, You're watching these guys in film,
Speaker 2: And so how do you figure all of this out?
Speaker 2: And how long does it.
Speaker 4: Take you to do that? I could do it really
Speaker 4: fast to see what the problem is. I can't change
Speaker 4: a person shot really fast. It takes time. It takes consistent, consistency.
Speaker 4: And that's why I don't train everybody. So I'm not
Speaker 4: one of those trainers. If you really get to know
Speaker 4: me where you see online where if you just come
Speaker 4: in town, I train you one time and I say
Speaker 4: I'm your trainer. The only way you train with me.
Speaker 4: You got to put in the work. You got to
Speaker 4: train for an entire summer. You gotta be dedicated to
Speaker 4: your craft. And it takes an entire summer for me
Speaker 4: to really get the muscle memory a certain type of way.
Speaker 1: You know, folks, I.
Speaker 2: Have to admit to you, Chris Man, I'm kind of lucky,
Speaker 2: you know, because you know, I'm fifty seven years old
Speaker 2: and just turned fifty seven. I think I look pretty
Speaker 2: damn good be fifty, okay, but you know I got
Speaker 2: a nephew. I got, you know, some of his friends.
Speaker 2: I got other people you know, talking shit, you know,
Speaker 2: and make me want to go on the court and
Speaker 2: bust their ass. Excuse my language, you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: the kind of person that I would do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, but I get on the court and here's the problem.
Speaker 2: I might bust them up for thirty minutes, and I
Speaker 2: got to sit down for thirty days, right that brother
Speaker 2: ready to go thirty minutes. That's when you know age
Speaker 2: and has kicked in, right. But I showed up and
Speaker 2: I saw you gonna start weekend like this. I knock
Speaker 2: and some of them down with you know. I just
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, I need to get back. I mean,
Speaker 2: my knees still ain't great, but I need to get
Speaker 2: back into gym. Chris and and I you know, I've
Speaker 2: never had anyone work on my shop before.
Speaker 1: Do you think you can help me be a better shoot?
Speaker 4: Well, I think I'm one of the best in the
Speaker 4: world if you're willing to work out right now, I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. For certain people, there's no hope.
Speaker 2: I mean, certain people are just so awful there's no
Speaker 2: hope for them whatsoever. You hope everybody, I'm a good
Speaker 2: hands hands.
Speaker 4: If you're serious about working on your game, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: you gotta suit on.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but if you're I brought some sweat bro' this.
Speaker 2: But here's the whole point before we do this. Though, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're gonna run me into the ground. You know you're
Speaker 2: gonna have man gasping for in two minutes or something
Speaker 2: like that. You're gonna give a brother a break. You
Speaker 2: got in the gatorade and water around or something like that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna help a brother out.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna give you no breaks. We're
Speaker 4: gonna push you. We're gonna push you if you if
Speaker 4: you want to be the best. That's why you're here.
Speaker 4: I didn't know you wanted to train though you told
Speaker 4: me we was just doing it. But if you want
Speaker 4: to train, I can train you. But we ain't taking
Speaker 4: no breaks.
Speaker 1: Talking about going to you know, working on the formula.
Speaker 3: You said, you said, we gotta go at your nephew.
Speaker 3: We gotta go to young guys. We gotta get you right.
Speaker 1: In my sleep, I could be my sleep. I'm not
Speaker 1: even worried about that.
Speaker 2: It's just that I'm just saying I want to I
Speaker 2: want to work on my shot in a way where
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna leave me once I leave this gym.
Speaker 3: All right, you in good hands. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, let's leave it. Let's do about to
Speaker 1: make me, You about to make me.
Speaker 3: I'm serious, let's do it. I didn't know he was
Speaker 3: gonna train, but let's do this. I'll try it, I'll
Speaker 3: try it.