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Speaker 5: March madness doesn't just pertain to college hoops. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that GCU game that he's never been to the Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 5: even been to the Grand Canyon. What what if arguably

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Speaker 5: Paul Calvin, Ron Wolfley, soon to be joined by the

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Speaker 5: voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash. He has seen and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, there really is, and you're starting to see

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Speaker 1: if that happens, I'll give you all of your do

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Speaker 5: you end up with JJ McCarthy and Lad mcconkee at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt, Paul, it really is. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: You can see it to the Arizona Cardinals going out

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Speaker 5: He's talking about the trade up coming from twelve in

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Speaker 5: So here's the thing. If I'm maniasa fort, I'm telling

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Speaker 5: And the key to all this, Ron Wilfley, You've been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Paully, For the most part, we

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Speaker 1: I believe nothing. I believe absolutely nothing that I hear

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Speaker 1: You know what, Polly, Honestly, I am in the danger

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Speaker 1: zone with Marvin Harrison Junior. I love the guy. Yet

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Speaker 1: talking about Polly. It's it's all about football that you know.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Senior, his dad of course, and Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back into the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan

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Speaker 5: Fordy and Gilbert. And welcome to the show, mister Dave Pash,

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Speaker 5: voice of the Cardinals on that call, a national voice.

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Speaker 5: And Dave, you've been calling entirely too much basketball these days,

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Speaker 5: so we're here to talk some football for the next

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, let's do it. Paulie.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing, boys and doing very very good? Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us, David, all right.

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Speaker 5: I'll keep it real simple. Here's a headline in the

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Speaker 5: Azy Central I saw the other day, and I quote,

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Speaker 5: are the Arizona Cardinals improved after free agency? Question mark? Dave,

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Speaker 5: what would you say?

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent? Yes? I think in general they addressed

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Speaker 3: Most of the guys they signed they're twenty six to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, David for me as well, I

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Speaker 1: that's how I'm going to remember this free agent period

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Speaker 5: Well, and you know what, you guys are both right,

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Speaker 5: and last year, to nineteen free agents, the Cardinals committed

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Speaker 5: have spend money to both your points. Let me ask

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Speaker 5: got Jonah Williams former eleventh pick overall twenty nineteen draft.

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Speaker 5: Whether he plays the left or the right? You know,

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Speaker 5: that means, Dave that the Cardinals are not nearly as

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Speaker 3: At least early Yes. I would say that, you know,

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Speaker 3: it depends. It depends on how they view Jonah Williams

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter anymore? Whether you're left or right tackle, you know,

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Speaker 3: that they really like late first round? But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: You know right now too, guys, I'd love to get

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Speaker 5: Paulie, I'll say this, and I said it for at

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Speaker 5: So TikTok, I think it's coming. I think they're going

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Speaker 5: ideally they could have deal done with the Giants, they

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Speaker 5: get something significant in return Dave, and then at six

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Speaker 5: here's my question to you guys. Do you think this administration,

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: The question is, you know, is it one spot? Is

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Speaker 3: You know, can you do what you did last year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, David, you know, for me once again, that scenario,

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Speaker 5: It was interesting too that Sean Payne said more than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. We met with Dallas Turner when we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would totally agree with that, David right there.

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Speaker 5: No doubt about that and look, I mean speaking of

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Speaker 3: win rate percentage and the grades you know that they

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Speaker 3: put out, they didn't jump off the page. But as

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Speaker 3: you know, Wolf, those can be misleading. I He's a

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Speaker 3: guy that I'm really intrigued by. But I think Desmond

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Speaker 3: Ridder for me, is that the first person that comes

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Speaker 3: to mind when you talk about most important person that

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Speaker 3: you side. Look. The hope is Kyler makes it through

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Speaker 3: every game, plays every snap of seventeen games. But just

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Speaker 3: day and age boy, that's hard to imagine. It just

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Speaker 3: doesn't happen very often. And Desmond Ridder can get you

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Speaker 3: through more than just a game. He can get you

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Speaker 3: through a month if he needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I love that, David, the fact that

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder. You're focused on Desmond Ridder even though he's

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Speaker 1: a backup and going to be a backup to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we all know, at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need that backup to go into games and

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Speaker 1: to allow you to be competitive, go out there and

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Speaker 1: maybe even win the thing. Desmond Ridder, I think is

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Speaker 1: uniquely qualified to be the guy for this team. And

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Speaker 1: the reason why I say that is because, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is blending the old and the new. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about under center, we're talking about in the gun,

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Speaker 1: in the pistol. He's doing that right now in this offense.

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Speaker 1: Over the last four games of the season, the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offense was the number one offense in terms of yards.

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Speaker 1: Over the last four games of the season, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: was evolving as a player, and so was this offense.

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Speaker 1: You know what, This is what I love about Desmond

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Speaker 1: Ridder because down with Arthur Smith in Atlanta, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a coach that asked his team to do it all,

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Speaker 1: talking about different personnel groups and rundown situation, talking about

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Speaker 1: lining up in the pistol, lining up in the gun

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Speaker 1: under center, asking his quarterback to do it all. And

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Speaker 1: from what I hear, Desmond Ridder has got a big brain.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to be good for this offense

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Speaker 1: going forward because you need a quarterback that can execute

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Speaker 1: and orchestrate your offense.

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Speaker 5: To wrap it up here with Dave Pash, I know

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Speaker 5: something you guys did not love last season, and that

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Speaker 5: was the kickoff. Nearly two thousand touchbacks last year in

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Speaker 5: the NFL, return was executed twenty two percent of the time.

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Speaker 5: The NFL now expects more than sixty percent of kickoffs

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Speaker 5: will be returned with a new kickoff rule. Dave, your reaction.

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Speaker 3: What I like about it, guy, is it feels more

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Speaker 3: like a scrimmage play, like there's going to be real hitting.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be real football, as opposed to for

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Speaker 3: the most part, the foregun conclusion that you're going to

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Speaker 3: have a touchback and there's not going to be any contact,

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Speaker 3: so there's there's room for air. There's, you know, still

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Speaker 3: the element of a surprise where you have a big

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Speaker 3: hit and there's a fumble or a guy makes a

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Speaker 3: mistake by you know, deciding to feel a ball that's

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Speaker 3: angled to the sideline inside the five, where you just

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Speaker 3: didn't have as much of that the last few years.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's exciting. It's certainly better than it was. Looky,

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Speaker 3: I wish that we weren't in this situation. I wish

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Speaker 3: that concussions weren't as big of an issue as they are,

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Speaker 3: but it's reality. So if you're going to change the

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Speaker 3: rules and get away from what you know you did

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Speaker 3: when Wolf played, I think this is a good alternative

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Speaker 3: in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: Hey, fair catches are no longer allowed. Any ball caught

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Speaker 5: in the field of play must be returned, and a

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Speaker 5: touchback comes out to the thirty. So there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of incentive to return that ball or make the opponent

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Speaker 5: return it. So we'll see how that plays out, and

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Speaker 5: we'll see how the whole quarterback thing plays out, because

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Speaker 5: the latest mock draft that I've seen as JJ McCarthy's second,

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Speaker 5: and then Drake may fall in. We'll see how that

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Speaker 5: all goes. Dave Pash appreciate the time in the Insight.

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Speaker 5: We continue with the big Red rage presented by Santan

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Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: After review, it is an incomplete pan. So Gannett one

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Speaker 3: for one saved his best and only for last first.

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Speaker 5: Time he used the red flag and it worked out.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, one for one.

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Speaker 5: It had been twenty years since the head coach had

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Speaker 5: gone entire season, so I know they reminded you of

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Speaker 5: that recently.

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Speaker 7: I put myself behind the team there because I really

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Speaker 7: didn't want to throw it.

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Speaker 5: He was reminded of it by the TV production crews

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Speaker 5: every single well in December and January. But there was

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Speaker 5: the red flag out of his pocket on the field.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon, he's batting the thousand going into his second season.

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Speaker 5: Dave Pash and Ron Wolfley there, wolf here. We thanked

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Speaker 5: Dave Pash for his time moments ago on this edition

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Speaker 5: of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 5: We are santan Ford, Ron Wolfley more than just a

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Speaker 5: few headlines when it comes to quarterbacks and the draft

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Speaker 5: and free agency. At the league meetings, we got some

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Speaker 5: rules changes and as someone who made a name for

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Speaker 5: himself made a living on kickoff cover, Ron Wolfley just

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Speaker 5: your initial thoughts. We talked a little bit with Dave

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Speaker 5: Pash about it, but the kickoff by all accounts had

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Speaker 5: essentially become a dead play in so many different ways

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years, and now they try to

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Speaker 5: pump some life into it with a brand new alignment

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Speaker 5: and format.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you know, for the most part it falls

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Speaker 1: short to me, it falls short. But man, it's a

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Speaker 1: step in the right direction because it sure beats the alternative, Paul.

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Speaker 1: They were coming up with plays and you know you

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Speaker 1: were gonna have to, you know, trying to eliminate the kickoff,

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Speaker 1: and whether I just this is the best route you

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Speaker 1: could possibly take, I think at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: But it still falls short. I do. I think they've

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Speaker 1: overreacted on a lot of this in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for player safety, PAULI you know that this

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Speaker 1: is integral to me. It is it is something I

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Speaker 1: understand personally, and yet at the same time, I just

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Speaker 1: think that it falls short. Eliminate the wedge, Paul. You

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Speaker 1: can never bring the wedge back. Eliminate two guys that

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Speaker 1: stand shoulder to shoulder in an attempt to double team

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Speaker 1: a guy. Eliminate that, because if you ever put two

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Speaker 1: guys shoulder to shoulder. To me, Paulie, I'll kill one

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Speaker 1: of them. Okay, one of them is gonna get killed,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be my eyes that will kill him.

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Speaker 1: I'll look at the one guy and hit the other guy,

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Speaker 1: or I'll look at that guy and hit the other guy.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's something that is hard to describe unless

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Speaker 1: you experience it out on the football field. So listen

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Speaker 1: to me. I wanted to see a full kickoff cover

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Speaker 1: once again brought back because it's the most exciting, the

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Speaker 1: most brutal play there is in the game of football,

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Speaker 1: and to me, I love that. Yet at the same time,

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Speaker 1: this is an acceptable way to go in terms of

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Speaker 1: not eliminating the kickoff and doing something that's football.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna look really different. There's gonna be a setup zone,

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be a landing zone, all right. The ball

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Speaker 5: is still gonna be kicked from your own thirty five

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Speaker 5: yard line, but your ten kick coverage players are gonna

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Speaker 5: be lined up at the opposing forty, with five on

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Speaker 5: each side of the field. Then the return team is

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Speaker 5: going to have their nine blockers in the setup zone

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Speaker 5: between the thirty and thirty five, at least seven of

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Speaker 5: those players touching the thirty five, and then the two

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Speaker 5: kickoff return men allowed inside the twenty. Only the kicker

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Speaker 5: and the two kickoff return men would be allowed to

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Speaker 5: move into the ball hits the ground or it's touched

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Speaker 5: by a returner inside the twenty. And all this is

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Speaker 5: based really on the XFL and what they did. And

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Speaker 5: for example, in twenty twenty they were talking about an

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Speaker 5: NFL network there were over four hundred kickoff returns and

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Speaker 5: not a single head injury reported. Yeah, so it's player

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Speaker 5: safety driven in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, Polly. And once again, it's really more

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Speaker 1: like a punt return. Now that's what it is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're lining them up and you get to run this way,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna drop back.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: drop back. It's gonna be really interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: they do, how special teams coaches may tweak it at all.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting. And again I want to

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Speaker 1: say this, it sure beats the alternative pall of eliminating

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Speaker 1: the kickoff. We're gonna see the kickoffs again come back,

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Speaker 1: a big time special teams play come back in vogue.

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Speaker 1: And I like that poll because once again, eliminating the

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Speaker 1: kickoff is unacceptable to me.

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Speaker 5: Dare I say the Cardinals have a competitive advantage because

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Speaker 5: they have a big thinker, high IQ guy and special

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Speaker 5: teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers. And there's already a lot of

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Speaker 5: talk about how there's going to be actual plays that

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Speaker 5: are designed. Pin and Poll, you might put offensive linemen

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Speaker 5: out there on the return team. Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of different The reverses and end a rounds

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Speaker 5: are going to be more prevalent and prominent.

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Speaker 1: So and Paul, do you know what I like the most,

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Speaker 1: big guys. I love the fact that there is a

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Speaker 1: landing zone the goal line to the twenty and if

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Speaker 1: it's kick there, you must return it.

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Speaker 5: Any ball caught in the field to play, You're right,

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Speaker 5: must be returned. So let's go get y up. Because

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Speaker 5: they're only twenty two percent of the kickoff's return last year,

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Speaker 5: they're expecting sixty plus percent under this current format. So

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Speaker 5: there you go. And now we're going to get an

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Speaker 5: expanded role of replay assistance. Who are going to be

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Speaker 5: permitted to correct incorrect calls for roughing the pass or

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Speaker 5: intentional grounding those areas that are indisputable, not of opinion.

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Speaker 5: It either happened or it didn't. They're going to review

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Speaker 5: the video and then go down to the sideline if needed.

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Speaker 1: I love this, Paully. This is a step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. This is where the NFL, I think is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to grow. Now the big eye in

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Speaker 1: the sky as we like to say, right the sky

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Speaker 1: judge as some people have called it. You know what,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to radio down, call

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Speaker 1: down and say you need to throw a flag. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to be able to radio down, call down

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Speaker 1: and say we need to review this. It's only it's

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Speaker 1: only when you get a flag on the field, and

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Speaker 1: for the most part, it's going to be hits out

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Speaker 1: of bounds, it's going to be intentional grounding of course,

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Speaker 1: and roughing the passer. Those three things in particular, to me,

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Speaker 1: that's a great step in the right direction. It's when

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Speaker 1: a flag is on the ground and guess what probably

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the ground, that's when they're going to

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Speaker 1: get involved. And I think that is a great approach

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Speaker 1: by the NFL.

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Speaker 5: For example, one of the most vexing calls is rough

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Speaker 5: in the passer when indeed nothing really correct Nick. You know,

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Speaker 5: oh the quarterback got hit in the head. No, upon

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Speaker 5: replay review, he did not get hit in the head,

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Speaker 5: and so boom, you'd be able to correct that immediately

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Speaker 5: in the moment. You're empowering the replay assistant to fix

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Speaker 5: those clear and obvious mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And Paulie, just think about this right now, how important

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Speaker 1: that is. And I'm not talking about just in a game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just to players or head coaches, Paul,

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Speaker 1: or general managers or owners, Paul. I'm talking about for

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Speaker 1: the fans. Here's the last thing you want to do.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to break the hearts of NFL fans

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Speaker 1: who have come to recognize a certain style of play

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And suddenly you go ahead

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Speaker 1: and your quarterback gets roughed, and and you know there's

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Speaker 1: no flag that breaks fans' hearts. But now all of

649
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Speaker 1: a sudden, what happens if your guy hits another quarterback

650
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Speaker 1: and you're like, there were no way that was roughing. Now,

651
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they can review that. You don't

652
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Speaker 1: want fans getting broken hearts because fans buy tickets and

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Speaker 1: they buy merchandise.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because you don't want them walking away customer satisfaction.

655
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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, And then there's nothing worse. As a player,

656
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Speaker 5: you know, you did it for ten years. You work

657
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 5: all week and then a game is decided on an

658
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Speaker 5: erroneous call. So I like that anytime where they're trying

659
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Speaker 5: to get the correct call. I'm all on it. And

660
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Speaker 5: then in terms of player safety, they also eliminated the

661
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Speaker 5: swivel hip drop tackle. Now, I know there's much ado

662
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Speaker 5: about nothing. In some cases JJ Watt tweeting out just

663
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Speaker 5: fast forward to the belts with flags on them and

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Speaker 5: tweet jj Watt. But typically this amounted to maybe one

665
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Speaker 5: instance per game of a hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I don't like about APOL. Once again,

667
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Speaker 1: you're putting the onus on the defensive player. You're you're

668
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Speaker 1: putting another responsibility on the defensive player in terms of okay,

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Speaker 1: no headshots. Now all of a sudden, how you tackle

670
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Speaker 1: a guy? You should just go tackle a guy. I'm

671
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Speaker 1: glad that they're eliminating the hip drop. I can't stand

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Speaker 1: the hip drop tackle. Yet at the same time, I

673
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Speaker 1: am willing to say, right now, my goodness, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that I didn't play defense on these under these rules.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel for the defenders. I feel for the officials.

676
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Speaker 5: That's gonna be a tough one to rule. In the

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Speaker 5: slash tickets. All right, we'll get into the draft and

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Speaker 5: the big three are receiver. Next on the big red rage.

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Speaker 5: Go to the other side of the picture.

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Speaker 4: This one blew me away. Did you gotta look at

684
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Speaker 4: Johnny Gannon?

685
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Speaker 5: Take a look at this dude over here.

686
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Speaker 4: Damn jj This blew me away. Biceps like crazy. This

687
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: is a pre photo pump. You cannot tell me it's

688
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Speaker 4: not a risk. He got out and he did the

689
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Speaker 4: close scripts. He did like the diamond push ups right

690
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Speaker 4: down there before he came out.

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Speaker 9: We don't even do arms.

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Speaker 7: You should see my hamstring.

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Speaker 9: The pre photo pump is like fight club. You don't

694
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 9: talk about the pre photo pump. You know, you never

695
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Speaker 9: admit to it. And as you go, and you're a

696
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Speaker 9: player in this league, you understand this is this is

697
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Speaker 9: the truth. You have pre photo pumps, you have pre

698
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 9: video pumps. You have you have pre game pumps where

699
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Speaker 9: guys are doing dips and push ups and curls in

700
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Speaker 9: the locker room, anything you can do to try to

701
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 9: get that vein to pop out right before you either

702
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 9: take the field or get a photo. But You never

703
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 9: talk about it, you never admit to it. You just

704
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 9: act like gots. I just rolled out of bed and

705
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Speaker 9: I'm this jacked. Every single day.

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Speaker 5: It's Kyle Vanderbosch this week on the Rids Report, just

707
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Speaker 5: blowing the lid off the scandal that is the pre

708
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Speaker 5: photo pump. Oh my, you know that's good stuff right

709
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: there in the trust tree. Hey, I'm guilty of the

710
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 5: pre photo pump before JV basketball team picture. We all

711
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: went into the rate room and grabbed the bicep, curl

712
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 5: in a bar and try to pump up for this

713
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Speaker 5: as a fifteen or sixteen year old. So yes, let

714
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Speaker 5: me tell you this much. We saw Jonathan Ganna last

715
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Speaker 5: week at the Cardinals golf turning or there Ron Wolfley,

716
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Speaker 5: and like cal Brandt, he detailed right there. JG is

717
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 5: definitely winning the off season. I gotta get got to

718
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Speaker 5: get some best practices on his off season workout, because yes,

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Speaker 5: he struck quite the pos in the head coach's photo

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Speaker 5: this year at the league meetings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what you're want to do when you're

722
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Speaker 1: in shape, Paul. You know it's unlike me, of course,

723
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Speaker 1: my pre photo pump. Paul would be taking my tongue

724
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Speaker 1: and sticking it all the way up to the top

725
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: of my mouth, the roof of my mouth. So that's

726
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: suddenly my throat isn't sagging, Paul, that's my photo.

727
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 5: I thought I was adding something with a salty snack

728
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: in there, you know. So all right, Kyle Brandt excellent

729
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 5: at call performance broadcasting, as he named Jonathan Gannon first

730
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Speaker 5: team All Fitness center in the hotel based on that

731
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Speaker 5: team photo right there, the head coaches photos, So that's

732
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 5: really well done. As for other headlines, JG meeting the

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Speaker 5: media and he revealed Ron Wolfley there will be a

734
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Speaker 5: joint practice this year for the Arizona Cardinals at an

735
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Speaker 5: AFC team to be named later. He said, it's a

736
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Speaker 5: very good team. So we just openly campaigned, please no

737
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 5: humidity fest like in Miami, Jacksonville, or Houston. We're pulling

738
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Speaker 5: for the Chargers. I don't know if you consider the

739
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Speaker 5: Chargers a really good team, but maybe with Jim Harbaugh

740
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Speaker 5: now they can go out to Costa Mesa, that'd be good.

741
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Speaker 1: You know what, Pauly, that's really interesting right now. Would

742
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Speaker 1: your categorize the Chargers as a team that is a

743
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Speaker 1: good AFC team? Very good.

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Speaker 5: Potentially potentially with Justin Herbert, you know, you might be

745
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Speaker 5: able to use that terminology.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I'm just saying right now, man, this is

747
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Speaker 1: very interesting. Whom could it possibly be? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I love this. I love the fact that they're

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Speaker 1: going to have these joint practices because I think you

750
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Speaker 1: actually get more out of the joint practice than you

751
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: do actually playing one preseason game.

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Speaker 5: I agree. And you know what Chargers are picking right

753
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: beyond the Cardinals? Cardinals at four, Chargers at five. What

754
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: do the Chargers need more than anything from the outside

755
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: looking in a number one receiver after they got rid

756
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Speaker 5: of Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. You know, well, let's

757
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: talk about Marvin Harrison Junior. And you know, in comparison

758
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Speaker 5: to a Romadonesa, in comparison to a Elik Neighbors. You

759
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 5: ask Malik Neighbors, he is really fired up doing all

760
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: his interviews that he thinks he's on par if not

761
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 5: better than the other two guys. He looks like a

762
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Speaker 5: really driven, potential Rookie of the Year type candidate. And

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Speaker 5: then Roma Dunes they put on a show at the combine.

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Speaker 5: See to me, I know, a lot of the Red

765
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Speaker 5: Sea has already decided that they want Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 5: But to me, I'll take any of those three receivers.

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Speaker 5: I really will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I'm with you on that. You know, once again,

769
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Speaker 1: a football player, it's the threefold nature of man, body, soul,

770
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Speaker 1: and spirit. You've got to have all three of those

771
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: things aligned right now. And for the most part, when

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Speaker 1: I look at Marvin Harrison Junior, I see a guy

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Speaker 1: that I do believe has all three of those things.

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Speaker 1: He's got the body, of course, he's got the soul,

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Speaker 1: he's got the spirit. Rom macdonzay to me, is a

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Speaker 1: huge guy in terms of what he's going to give

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Speaker 1: and how he's going to go about his business. He's

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Speaker 1: very appealing to me. As a matter of fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it, he reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald. He does.

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Speaker 5: Roman Doonza, Roma Doonzay.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that, Polly.

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Speaker 5: By the way, it's interesting because I've heard a couple

783
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Speaker 5: of draft analysts say that Roman Doonzay reminds them of

784
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Speaker 5: Larry Fitzgerald. But I think the Red Sea when they

785
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: see Marvin Harrison Junior, they think Larry Fitzgerald, which is

786
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: part of their affinity for Marvin Harrison Junior. That's my theory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right on that, Polly. But once again,

788
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I think body type. Look at Roma Dunza very similar

789
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Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald. When I look at Marvin Harrison Junior,

790
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I see somebody who's got a little bit more length

791
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: to him. Roma Dunes a body type I think is

792
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Speaker 1: more towards Larry Fitzgerald. And I think also too, the

793
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: physical speed, the physical ability of course, things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: I think it's closer to Larry Fitzgerald, which is really

795
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Speaker 1: really good. I look at the Leak neighbors, and man,

796
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Speaker 1: this guy is the most explosive of all three of

797
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Speaker 1: these guys. This guy he ran a four to three five,

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Speaker 1: had a forty two inch vertical ball at his pro day.

799
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Speaker 1: But a four to three five I thought was actually

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Speaker 1: a little slow. Wow from the lake neighbors. I thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to run maybe a four to nine,

802
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a four to eight somewhere in that vicinity right there,

803
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Speaker 1: because I had heard he was running and busting a

804
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Speaker 1: little four to three, So to me, it was interesting

805
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Speaker 1: to see it. We're gonna find out who's going to

806
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Speaker 1: be the guy the first wide receiver taken in next

807
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Speaker 1: month's draft. I cannot wait, and I'm thinking it's Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Brian Thomas junior league neighbors teammate at LSU,

810
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Speaker 5: he actually had more touchdown catches last year. Now, did

811
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Speaker 5: Melikue neighbors get the bulk of the attention from the

812
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: defensive secondaries. Maybe, but you got a guy who's nearly

813
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Speaker 5: six ' three in Brian Thomas Junior, who ran a

814
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Speaker 5: four to three to three. Yes, supposedly catches everything away

815
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Speaker 5: from his body. His hands are not a liability. So honestly,

816
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Speaker 5: when I look at what's missing in the Cardinals cornerback room,

817
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Speaker 5: when what's missing when it comes to an edge rusher,

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Speaker 5: I just think the Cardinals first pick in the first

819
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Speaker 5: round will be one of those two positions, and then

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Speaker 5: their second pick in the first round is more likely

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Speaker 5: to be receiver. That's and I think it'll be one

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Speaker 5: in the next tier receivers Brian Thomas and company.

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Speaker 1: You know what, PAULI I love that right there too.

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Speaker 1: I really do, because Brian Thomas Junior also is a

825
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Speaker 1: tree running across the secondary he's got a very big

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Speaker 1: canopy as well. He's got size to him. Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the hallmarks of this draft is going

828
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Speaker 1: to be how many wide receivers are going to get drafted,

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Speaker 1: I think in the first round, and we might see

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Speaker 1: a record.

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Speaker 5: Ball, no doubt. I think the record is well, the

832
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 5: record for offensive tackles is seven. A lot of people

833
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Speaker 5: expect that to be broken. And then receiver could be

834
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Speaker 5: right up there as well. And then look, if you

835
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Speaker 5: don't get receiver until thirty five, like top of the

836
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Speaker 5: second round, and you get a guy like Lad McConkey

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Speaker 5: or Ricky Piersoll.

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Speaker 1: Of Florida, Key Pearsow.

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Speaker 5: These guys are some of the most polished route runners

840
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Speaker 5: in the draft. Both ran really well, have excellent hands.

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Speaker 5: I could definitely see the Cardinals going that route as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauline, don't forget about Graham Barton. Did you see

843
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Speaker 1: a paul Did you see Graham Barton? He's climbing up

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Speaker 1: the tree.

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Speaker 5: Is you know what? Wolf Matt Miller, the ESPN Draft guy,

846
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Speaker 5: his mock draft today has a Cardinals trading out of

847
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Speaker 5: number four given it to Denver. JJ McCarthy is a

848
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Speaker 5: fourth pick overall to Denver. Cardinals get Brian Thomas Junior

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Speaker 5: at number twelve. They also get a twenty twenty five

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Speaker 5: first a twenty twenty six first round pick from Denver,

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Speaker 5: and then at number twenty seven envelope please, they take

852
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Speaker 5: Graham Barton according to Matt Miller, and I wonder, because

853
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Speaker 5: you've interviewed him a few times, if you influenced this selection.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have no idea, Polly, but I saw that

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Speaker 1: as well. I saw that from Matt Miller here man,

856
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Speaker 1: and I would like to say, Okay, I don't like

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six first round picked off. That just

858
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Speaker 1: seems too down the road. We need something now.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks put out of three point zero this week

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