Speaker 1: What if I gets to lift service. I'm Angela Yee,
Speaker 1: I'm Gg Maguire.
Speaker 2: I'm Jazz and Brands.
Speaker 3: I'm Cleo Trapper.
Speaker 1: And first of all, thank you to Cleo Trapper and
Speaker 1: Billy B for joining us. You guys have some things
Speaker 1: in common already. All Right, you ladies have both tourists,
Speaker 1: you're both from New York City, you're both about to
Speaker 1: put out your debut EPs.
Speaker 3: That's a lot for real.
Speaker 1: I'm sensing some synergies here. But first of all, so
Speaker 1: let's get into a Cleo Chopper. You're from Staten Island.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm from Statin park Hill.
Speaker 1: To be exact, I was saying, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of Staten Island history just from having worked with Woo
Speaker 1: Tang and having worked in Staten Island Bay Street back
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 3: So I love seeing your protection neck freestyle. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I heard the beat over like when I was
Speaker 4: watching the Wo Tang series and I'm like, who eat
Speaker 4: this beet?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Then I was just like, yeah, let's do it all right.
Speaker 1: And Billy B. I'm from Brooklyn and you're from Brooklyn too.
Speaker 1: You know, you know when you say I'm from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: you gotta do.
Speaker 3: That from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like this, and you came to the
Speaker 1: bowling party, so thank you so much. The other day
Speaker 1: to benefit the children's hospital at mamaladis as my son.
Speaker 3: Was born at Mammadi I did.
Speaker 1: I was born there, so and my brother was born
Speaker 1: at that hospital. I think part of like why we
Speaker 1: love doing what we do is the ability to be
Speaker 1: able to, at some point, you know, do positive things
Speaker 1: to give back in the community.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: G's from Philly, just so everybody knows. And Jazzmin's from Omaha.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, what about me in Atlanta? Where in d C?
Speaker 3: Where's Omaha?
Speaker 2: In the midwest?
Speaker 3: Nebraska? I've never met nobody from the.
Speaker 5: I like that for I love that. I feel like
Speaker 5: you need to, like, you know, we need to go
Speaker 5: to Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, let's do a girl.
Speaker 5: I want to go one time, but I was driving through.
Speaker 5: I drove, I drove from New York to Cali and
Speaker 5: you had we went.
Speaker 3: My friend just drove from Cali to New Jersey. It
Speaker 3: was so fun. How long does that tad? It was fun?
Speaker 3: Three days.
Speaker 1: It was My one friend flew out there to help
Speaker 1: her drive, and she had to come back to Jersey
Speaker 1: to go to work. So they literally just took turns
Speaker 1: driving back two days. Yeah, it took us three days,
Speaker 1: but we stopped three days.
Speaker 3: Wait, who did you drive with? So my homegirl she
Speaker 3: was about to move to l A.
Speaker 5: And then like overnight, she's like, yeah, I'm about to
Speaker 5: leave tomorrow, but I'm driving by myself.
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, you can't drive by and I kind
Speaker 3: of the drove. And that's what happened with my friends.
Speaker 1: My one friend was driving and my other homegirl was like,
Speaker 1: I'm allowed there and drive, which you I can't let
Speaker 1: you drive there by yourself.
Speaker 2: That's a good friend to three days the whole.
Speaker 3: Way there, no police. This is fun, it's not liberating.
Speaker 1: They feel like maybe that's not a bad thing to do.
Speaker 1: What's your longest car trip?
Speaker 4: App Let me think probably like three four hours.
Speaker 1: That's why from Stanton ISLANDE to Manhattan.
Speaker 3: That's actually very much less than an hour. That's like
Speaker 3: forty five Yeah, it be out with well really only
Speaker 3: it's like six hours. I think that's driven more than that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I used to go back and forth from Philly to
Speaker 1: Atlanta like every month when I first moved here, and
Speaker 1: then I got so many tickets that I lost my
Speaker 1: driver's license eighteen years ago. Twelve hours a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the farthest I ever did was to Virginia,
Speaker 1: from New York to Virginia.
Speaker 3: Or one time I drove from Connecticut to Syracuse.
Speaker 4: Just started driving, So I don't got that much stories
Speaker 4: about me driving fall I'll be passing the princess.
Speaker 1: How were you when you first got your license, Because
Speaker 1: when I first got my license, I had like three
Speaker 1: accidents in the first year.
Speaker 4: I just got in to my first accident like two
Speaker 4: months ago because I got my license in January, so
Speaker 4: I got the call in like July.
Speaker 3: Then I got into the accident and like August, and
Speaker 3: it wasn't it's bound to happen. I had a park call.
Speaker 4: I looked off the road to yell at somebody. I'm
Speaker 4: like because they were steering at the call. The call
Speaker 4: was you know, I don't blame them, but it's like,
Speaker 4: I'm a new driver, so it was like somebody walking
Speaker 4: real slow steering at my car. I'm just like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck, Like you're trying to get hit or something.
Speaker 4: So it's not till I was driving up that I'm
Speaker 4: just like, I just roll down the window and yo and.
Speaker 3: Yourself. It was in the call. I played myself so bad.
Speaker 3: I know that person was laughing. But thank god the
Speaker 3: people in the car, I knew them.
Speaker 1: I told you, when you first get your license, your dead.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm glad you got that out the way,
Speaker 1: because honestly, when you first get your license, you're bound
Speaker 1: to have especially in New York, because okay, car, I
Speaker 1: did tell I'm not I did before I got my
Speaker 1: parents gonna.
Speaker 3: Tell you let me. She would never come back. She like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I did.
Speaker 2: You can't get the same spot back.
Speaker 5: No, I don't care if you put cones there, somebody
Speaker 5: would move those cones. You know.
Speaker 3: I crashed my parents' car twice. I was fifteen. I
Speaker 3: did not know how to drive, and I crashed the
Speaker 3: front and back of the car. And you let your
Speaker 3: brother take the blame.
Speaker 1: And then I put it in the driveway and didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing. And my dad came home from work, and
Speaker 1: I just remember hearing him yelling, and I was like,
Speaker 1: and then he thought it was my brother, and then
Speaker 1: you know, my brother's said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything, and so I had to come
Speaker 1: down and be like it excuse me, and he started
Speaker 1: yelling at me and I said, I'm okay, thanks for asking.
Speaker 1: But you know what, since we are on this topic, right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Cameron and Mace. They were saying that
Speaker 1: New York women are very aggressive, right, and you said, Giju,
Speaker 1: you saw that.
Speaker 3: What were they saying?
Speaker 1: So it was they were on a million dollars worth
Speaker 1: of game and Gilly asked Cameron me, why are New
Speaker 1: York women so aggressive?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Why are New York women just so.
Speaker 1: Like you know, And the explanation was taking it back
Speaker 1: to gangster bitch and so yeah, Apache, and like back
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 3: Day, like he had the young girls for the young
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said, taking it back to that, like
Speaker 1: the girls, you know, that was what the guys wanted.
Speaker 1: So the girls conformed to that. And now it's like, god,
Speaker 1: see girls and other places and be like okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want a gainst bitch now clear Chapel. You
Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta, right, yeah, all right, So what's the
Speaker 1: difference between the vibes in Atlanta and New York?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: How I was? I moved there three years ago.
Speaker 4: I just moved back in April, but I would say,
Speaker 4: like people are definitely more chill, Like I remember when
Speaker 4: I first moved out there, people were saying like good
Speaker 4: morning an afternoon to.
Speaker 5: Me, Like.
Speaker 4: I was baffled, But that's the southern hot mentality. Now
Speaker 4: I learned, like that's what that is, because I was
Speaker 4: really confused at first, like why are.
Speaker 3: Why? Why are you smiling? Why are you talking? Why
Speaker 3: are you holding this door for me? How you holding
Speaker 3: the door? I mean, Billy b and you moved to
Speaker 3: l A for you still live in l A.
Speaker 1: I was back and forth for like six years. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what did you think was different? You know, being
Speaker 1: an aggressive Brooklyn woman.
Speaker 5: You know, it's so funny like when I was in
Speaker 5: l A, like that layer of grime and aggressiveness kind
Speaker 5: of like washed off of me.
Speaker 3: Like really I was everybody used to be like you
Speaker 3: different than l A. I'm like, because the sun is
Speaker 3: shining already and it's warm, I'm working out like I was.
Speaker 3: I was ill. No, I like, son, is it hit different?
Speaker 3: It hit?
Speaker 5: It feels better like and then like you just wake up.
Speaker 5: It's a good scene reads palms like damn, but like
Speaker 5: La girls, wait go ahead. I have a lot of
Speaker 5: La homegirls, but like LA girls are just different. I'm
Speaker 5: happy to be from New York, like I wouldn't want
Speaker 5: to be from nowhere else.
Speaker 3: It is hard where you're from New York. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: It's hard for people who are not from here to
Speaker 1: move here, and it's hard when you're from here to yeah,
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else. But I do feel like the
Speaker 1: harder part is if you're not from here and you
Speaker 1: try to move here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we adapt.
Speaker 5: But because everything is a little easier than living in
Speaker 5: New York, New York is a hard place to live.
Speaker 3: You know what they say, if you can make it here,
Speaker 3: you can make it anywhere anywhere. That's a fact, all right.
Speaker 3: So you also have the tour coming with Mona Leo.
Speaker 3: Oh you're on it.
Speaker 4: I'm yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming to like one of
Speaker 4: the shows in New York that she's doing, like her stop.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're doing the New.
Speaker 5: York stapp Okay, So how do you feel like knowing that?
Speaker 4: That's so excited for real, because she's like the first
Speaker 4: like female rapper to really bring me out. So I'm excited,
Speaker 4: like and I really like as a person like we
Speaker 4: chilled in at Landa, like we was vibing and stuff
Speaker 4: like that's my girl.
Speaker 3: So I was hyped. I'm like Perry on the music
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, people are excited.
Speaker 2: How are you preparing?
Speaker 3: I'm wrapping in the mirror.
Speaker 4: Drinking tea like land for real, because when I hit
Speaker 4: that stage, just like, yeah, I don't really be nervous
Speaker 4: for real. I really love vibing with the audience and
Speaker 4: talking and just like getting people hyped up even before
Speaker 4: I perform.
Speaker 3: I just loved the whole thing. So I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're really going to reciprocate your energy,
Speaker 1: because yes, I'm excited now that's really dope. And like
Speaker 1: for both of you as artists who are about to
Speaker 1: put out your debut projects, which is a huge deal.
Speaker 1: Y'are both super talented. That's why I was excited to
Speaker 1: have both of you. I feel like, and I've been
Speaker 1: saying this, like as of late, it's really the women
Speaker 1: who have been running absolutely and people could be mad
Speaker 1: all they want, but I mean it's not like before.
Speaker 1: It used to be like okay, there's like two or
Speaker 1: three yeah, but now it's kind of like an option.
Speaker 3: Everybody doing anything. Yeah, I love that. I love it.
Speaker 3: I like the way that the men are embracing it
Speaker 3: as well, exactly trying to give us some push that
Speaker 3: join us because you know, if you can't beat them there.
Speaker 5: Now, Billy, But I remember you had said that you
Speaker 5: decided you wanted to give up like three hundred times
Speaker 5: on the music.
Speaker 3: So tell me like some of the things that you went.
Speaker 5: Through that made you feel like, God, the industry alone
Speaker 5: is a crazy vice. This is crazy, like but no,
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just dramatic, honestly, So that's.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just dramatic.
Speaker 5: So I'll be in my mood like like I'm a
Speaker 5: type of person I like for things to be executed properly.
Speaker 5: So like if one thing is kind of off and
Speaker 5: I feel like it's I'm a half step, I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not doing this at all, Like okay, but I
Speaker 5: had to learn, like I have to roll with the punches.
Speaker 3: You gotta improvise.
Speaker 5: You gotta like you can't not show up like you know,
Speaker 5: so you gotta I had to learn, like all right
Speaker 5: to dug it through, like I.
Speaker 3: Still want me to go like so little.
Speaker 5: I'm just so dramatic like like that, yes, and I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't notice until I have my son and I
Speaker 5: see how dramatic he is, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, and you had your son at a time
Speaker 1: when shi it really popped off, you know, honestly, like
Speaker 1: right before don't play with It became.
Speaker 3: Viral baby Now he just turned three and then so
Speaker 3: that's a that is a.
Speaker 5: It was crazy because like his birthday came and then
Speaker 5: like the next day, don't play when they had a
Speaker 5: million views, and then.
Speaker 3: It was just like like I wasn't.
Speaker 5: I was like all over the place and I got
Speaker 5: this little baby and I'm like, what the hell am
Speaker 5: I dude? I'm like, why would you make me out
Speaker 5: the baby?
Speaker 3: Now? Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 5: That's why I moved back to New York because I
Speaker 5: was out there and I was pregnant, and the hospitals
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, well, if you catch COVID, don't come
Speaker 5: to hospital.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so what do I pregnant? Like what do
Speaker 3: I do? They like, don't come here. I'm like what,
Speaker 3: I had no family out there? Did you catch it?
Speaker 3: I caught it while I was pregnant here, like like
Speaker 3: five months in I caught it but that's good.
Speaker 5: They say that's good for like, baby, did you get
Speaker 5: COVID during that I definitely got COVID and that No,
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 3: It in Atlanta and I was Yeah, I was definitely
Speaker 3: fucked up. Everybody in Atlanta. I didn't exist. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know why I was doing.
Speaker 5: That, and I was doing it right with it and
Speaker 5: why I know I've been outside if I wasn't pregnant, right,
Speaker 5: like Atlanta shut down for six weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was out there. I see, you know, I can't,
Speaker 1: but I came out there like to do work. That Actually,
Speaker 1: when I did finally get COVID, it was in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember I had to go like do some interviews for
Speaker 1: some award show and they were like, yo, can you do?
Speaker 3: I was like, what's the check? Okay, yes, I went.
Speaker 1: And that's how I got COVID because they definitely acted
Speaker 1: like it didn't exist. And I was feeling like maybe
Speaker 1: people in Atlanta had the antibodies. I think god do
Speaker 1: because I didn't catch it and I do a thing.
Speaker 1: The whole reality show we was, we was COVID testing
Speaker 1: everything over the house.
Speaker 3: I was a family. Yes you did, and I did
Speaker 3: not catch it. I was actually, yes, I went.
Speaker 1: I did my birthday in Austin, Texas, and everybody got
Speaker 1: COVID except for me.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on. I know, I
Speaker 3: said it feeling like I couldn't get it.
Speaker 5: And then I like, as soon as you start feeling
Speaker 5: like they're gonna humble you, will humble you. I was
Speaker 5: trying to stay away from it so hard, and it's
Speaker 5: still cooked me. I was so sick for like five days.
Speaker 5: I was just sweating and I'm pregnant. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh god, I to break everything with alcohol.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was again. Please keep COVID. Now,
Speaker 3: what made you move to Atlanta? I moved to.
Speaker 4: To escape an ex okay, and you know, everything was
Speaker 4: just reminded me of him. So I'm just like I
Speaker 4: got to go, and you know, did it to be?
Speaker 3: Didn't work? He came to well, he got to a
Speaker 3: year later. He game, so okay.
Speaker 4: In Atlanta together now, But why did you need to
Speaker 4: escape him? I mean, everything was reminded me of him,
Speaker 4: But I mean, like what happened but maybe so. Basically,
Speaker 4: I went to Miami for my birthday and when I
Speaker 4: came back, he had a girlfriend, a new girlfriend.
Speaker 3: What this stuff in Miami? Like we was arguing and
Speaker 3: stuff and where you'll were officially a couple.
Speaker 2: We were a couple.
Speaker 3: Already, we was a couple.
Speaker 4: I went to Miami. I was staying with my my,
Speaker 4: my best friend, and everything was cool. And then he's
Speaker 4: just like he just started moving real insecure, like what
Speaker 4: you why you still do no?
Speaker 3: No, and he was just going on. I ended up
Speaker 3: being there for a few weeks. That's not that to
Speaker 3: get a whole new girlfriend. I'm saying. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that was okay, but a few weeks. But I had
Speaker 3: a reason though. Was the reason.
Speaker 4: The reason was I wasn't feeling the return flights. They
Speaker 4: was all connecting and stuff, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Just like, that don't make sense.
Speaker 3: Did you try to get a book? I for god,
Speaker 3: there was nothing else going on. It was really just
Speaker 3: a flight for me.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, if you really want me to
Speaker 4: come back right now, like just pay for the flight,
Speaker 4: like you feel me. But he ain't paid for the flight,
Speaker 4: so I stayed longer.
Speaker 3: It was all types of delays. Yeah, it was just
Speaker 3: like you, it was no arment.
Speaker 4: And I felt like these I felt like the arguments
Speaker 4: was like he already had something planned because it was
Speaker 4: just making no sense.
Speaker 3: So how did you find out about this new girlfriend?
Speaker 3: So when I came back, I was trying to like
Speaker 3: rekindle things. I'm like, what's going on? Like he moving
Speaker 3: so different.
Speaker 4: So I tried to get my stuff from his crib
Speaker 4: because at this point it's like makes it seem like
Speaker 4: we're done or whatever. So I'm like, let me get
Speaker 4: my stuff whatever. And I got to get this stuff
Speaker 4: and I'm like, let me talk to you though. So
Speaker 4: when he when he was like in front of the
Speaker 4: crab and I'm getting the stuff, I'm like, let me
Speaker 4: get in the car. I got in the call to
Speaker 4: talk to him, and I see car seat, I see
Speaker 4: slides first slides mad. I'm like, nah, what's going on?
Speaker 4: He had a car seat and I guess his girlfriend
Speaker 4: had a baby.
Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, it was a lie quick, that's everything. Everything.
Speaker 4: It was so quick to me, like you got her
Speaker 4: slides and ship, you helping herself slides.
Speaker 1: And ship now she was selling, like you help up
Speaker 1: with the bulk orders and oh my god, shipping slid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, up in the block and get to Atlanta. I
Speaker 3: mean I spend a block all the time, so no judgment.
Speaker 4: So after that, after that whole thing, he got moved
Speaker 4: and I was born in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: The niggas wasn't doing it. Yeah, there's not a lot
Speaker 3: of guys to pick from it Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Whatever, that's fine. So I wasn't really looking for real
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, I missed him. So I just
Speaker 4: hit him up one day and he was single and
Speaker 4: we single and we just got back together.
Speaker 3: So he wasn't with the first lives no more. No,
Speaker 3: they lasted like two months. Okay. I think that was
Speaker 3: like a revenge thing. He was just really mad at Miami.
Speaker 3: It was like a little rebound.
Speaker 2: So you're together, right?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, but no are you?
Speaker 2: What's your relationship? What are you single now? Or you
Speaker 2: got somebody else? Or what's going to have a booky?
Speaker 2: I got a booky?
Speaker 3: Is he in New York? Yeah? Okay, we like that.
Speaker 3: You think you want to eventually end up with that
Speaker 3: New York guy? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think that's the don't they understand me? I think
Speaker 4: a New York woman needs to be what a New
Speaker 4: York mean, and that's just how it needs to be.
Speaker 3: I can see that. What about you, Billy b you
Speaker 3: know you have a son. I'm with my baby father. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as you should be family.
Speaker 4: No love that.
Speaker 5: How supportive is he when it comes to like the
Speaker 5: music and everything, and sometimes I'm rapping like it was
Speaker 5: all him. He was like managing our artists before me.
Speaker 5: And then when I came around, I was like I
Speaker 5: wrapped two and you don't. And I was like, He's like,
Speaker 5: all right, I speak for them niggas. All right, we're
Speaker 5: gonna put you in the studio. So he like he's
Speaker 5: just and he's like real low key, so he just
Speaker 5: be behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: He don't care.
Speaker 1: He don't get jealous, like what if you have to
Speaker 1: go to the studio with you know, a guy, because sometimes.
Speaker 5: Anytime I go to the studio, I go with him okay,
Speaker 5: and they just be like, oh, that's your security, that's
Speaker 5: you and yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, and he's like all right, cool.
Speaker 3: But then when they try something, you'd be like, actually,
Speaker 3: that's my man.
Speaker 5: And the beginning he used to be like cause it
Speaker 5: was a little hard for him to adjust because I
Speaker 5: used to be doing crazy.
Speaker 3: This was before the baby, before the baby. The baby
Speaker 3: usually confirms it like yeah, I got hug. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: was before the baby.
Speaker 5: Well early on like him getting used to just I
Speaker 5: used to be like, I gotta do this. I'm a rapper,
Speaker 5: Like I can't be like all lovey dovey like because guys,
Speaker 5: you know, like they have this like they fantasize.
Speaker 3: About you know.
Speaker 5: It's like I feel like strippers, artists like fans. Sometimes
Speaker 5: the fans they fantasize about you.
Speaker 3: So if they see you in.
Speaker 5: A relationship, it's just like, yeah, it kills like their
Speaker 5: whole dream.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of I don't know if
Speaker 1: that still is true today. I think back in the
Speaker 1: day they used to say that. They used to be
Speaker 1: like you have to pretend just single. But I feel
Speaker 1: like now people do like celebrate, you know, because blowing
Speaker 1: out for being in a relationship, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's in the fact, but I would never want to
Speaker 4: be in that type of thing with like my relationship
Speaker 4: is like, you know, the center of everything, like a
Speaker 4: couple's page.
Speaker 3: Why did you all break up the second time? I
Speaker 3: was pretty much over it. Oh so you felt like
Speaker 3: I built up up insecure.
Speaker 4: It was just like it was just yeah, it's my
Speaker 4: my career and what I was doing was just it
Speaker 4: just wasn't gonna he would he would complain about other
Speaker 4: artists that I would try to work with artists that
Speaker 4: want to work with me.
Speaker 3: It was like he was just insecure and it was
Speaker 3: just building up from the jump.
Speaker 4: It was like already with signs and symptoms of just
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna work. But I was really pushing it
Speaker 4: cause I loved him.
Speaker 2: What did he do for a living?
Speaker 3: Okay? Now he was giming all that ship. Was he
Speaker 3: a successful scammer? He was, so he was getting it
Speaker 3: at least I was.
Speaker 4: I was, But like money tools, I was like at
Speaker 4: first when we yeah, and when we first started working
Speaker 4: with each other, it was like I got me a scar.
Speaker 4: But it's like over time, it's like I did have
Speaker 4: the money, and my money it starts catching up. It's
Speaker 4: actually surpassing it now because you know, they're like they
Speaker 4: have they slow.
Speaker 5: Ups churchlf life because it's also a little nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: You don't know the day that something's gonna happen. What's
Speaker 3: the nicest thing you ever got? Though? The nicest thing
Speaker 3: I ever got? What's my chain? Okay? That was the
Speaker 3: nicest thing he ever got me. I love it. He
Speaker 3: didn't ask nothing back when y'all broke up, did he No, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just that whoa, I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 4: He was asking for the chain bag, see, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm not getting the chain bag though, like what you
Speaker 4: gonna do?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: But he was asking for it. He stopped, but he
Speaker 3: was asking for it at first.
Speaker 2: Watching this interview, this is what it is, guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're telling things that are
Speaker 1: true that really happened, lying about now you have also
Speaker 1: did a blog about you know how a man of
Speaker 1: his words, like a man that could keep his word
Speaker 1: and really do what he says he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: I love that you love Billy b is your man?
Speaker 3: A man of his word? Some words? Now, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: like he he he be bringing it up like he's
Speaker 3: not here. Yeah, careful, listen, he's track. Carefully let him
Speaker 3: know right now, he's in the other room.
Speaker 5: But he'll bring up like he'd be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: we should go here, right and it'd be like some
Speaker 5: little vacation ship, like oh yeah I should.
Speaker 3: And then he just start making it like I guess
Speaker 3: when it clicking his brain like that, he said he'd
Speaker 3: be like, damn with the seats and the I hate
Speaker 3: the airport.
Speaker 5: I'm already listen about it.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen one day though you know what.
Speaker 5: You do so.
Speaker 3: But he you know, he do what he got period.
Speaker 3: It's Bookie a man of his word. WOOKI is a
Speaker 3: man of his word.
Speaker 4: That's why I make the video because at that time
Speaker 4: it was giving a man of his work. But like
Speaker 4: you said, it ain't every day.
Speaker 3: You know, kicking a word. You're not word?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Now, let's take some accountability. Are we women of our word? Words?
Speaker 3: All right? We'll give you a moment. Are you a woman?
Speaker 3: You're definitely a woman of my word? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a stand doing its down and sit on it.
Speaker 1: It's been around on it period.
Speaker 3: Jasmine, are you a woman?
Speaker 2: What that means?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: If you say you're gonna do something, do you do it?
Speaker 3: What I say when I said it? Yeah, the omaha
Speaker 3: in her is telling me no. Yeah. I think if
Speaker 3: Jasmine's says she's gonna do something, that's like us only
Speaker 3: because germanized. I'm a mom. You'll be using this baby
Speaker 3: as an excuse.
Speaker 5: You don't let me take when I was pregnant, even
Speaker 5: before you as a mom, you was still like.
Speaker 2: This and my pregnancy as an excuse. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: Jazmine here, she's pregnant, so we can't go.
Speaker 3: Like, listen, I have always wanted to have like a
Speaker 3: fake baby, so I could just say, you know, that's one.
Speaker 1: The baby's no dispute and that the baby can't make
Speaker 1: some happen. I might have a fake dog at home,
Speaker 1: like you know, I gotta walk the dog. Yes, I
Speaker 1: got very outdated to do things. When I say I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it.
Speaker 5: I changed my mind sometimes, That's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: I change, you know, and you'll be like, mental health
Speaker 5: is a reason.
Speaker 3: You'd be like, well, you know, I got to make
Speaker 3: sure I protect my I have people do that.
Speaker 1: People will say like, you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I've just been given too much and I got to
Speaker 1: make sure I protect my peace.
Speaker 3: And my space. So yeah, yeah, they do what I mean,
Speaker 3: But you have a you don't even need to do that.
Speaker 3: I can't even post.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's undeniable. Nobody can deny that. You as
Speaker 1: and when you say my kid t your kid ground,
Speaker 1: you can't. I'm still gonna blame herne Oh, she older
Speaker 1: than you, she knows you.
Speaker 3: She older than you, and guess what. She's still the baby.
Speaker 1: She's still saying I use the dogs more than I
Speaker 1: use her, though, but I will use her if I
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: But I said I got to go home to feed
Speaker 3: them dogs. I mean too Now, Now are you a
Speaker 3: woman of your word?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Someone?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was for the most part, exactly one of the
Speaker 1: most part. All right, So are you good at sexting?
Speaker 3: Sexting?
Speaker 4: I will send up I like sex thing here and there,
Speaker 4: not too much. Like I don't want to see a
Speaker 4: dick pic. I don't care for a dick pick. I
Speaker 4: don't want to see the NU coming out the dick.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it. Like, no, that's a lie.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see nobody.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say nothing that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see a lot because then what
Speaker 3: just happened. But I'll take a he but I don't
Speaker 3: want to see don't You don't got to send nothing back?
Speaker 5: Okay, but what about just talking dirty on this like
Speaker 5: when I see you later and I can't wait to
Speaker 5: suck that. I know.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, my bookie, you say, okay, my bookie.
Speaker 4: When I first when we first started working with each other.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I was trying to be
Speaker 4: a little with him, be a text, and He's just
Speaker 4: like I don't really like that, like like I don't
Speaker 4: really like talking about stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I left it right there. I ain't never talk
Speaker 3: about the pictures and the ship like that we do,
Speaker 3: but he ain't like the talking and ship. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was early early, but that kind of would
Speaker 3: have made me feel bad, like like, yeah, maybe it
Speaker 3: was early. I get later. Let me let me write
Speaker 3: something to him, Let me write something to him from
Speaker 3: you that believe me? What about you sex thing?
Speaker 7: Yea.
Speaker 3: I like to fantasize a lot. I heard you when
Speaker 3: I said that, because I'm one of them.
Speaker 5: You know how people be like, oh, I'm gonna text
Speaker 5: you down and then when it's time and link, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna link, but we.
Speaker 3: Get texted to fantasize like I'm tired. Yeah, so you're
Speaker 3: not a woman of your word, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I said some words, all the words like.
Speaker 5: I love.
Speaker 3: Have you been in a relationship, like almost ten years?
Speaker 3: That's a lot of time. Decade that's cute, that long,
Speaker 3: that's long. It's crazy. I don't even know how to
Speaker 3: hew I did that. But I've always been in long
Speaker 3: relationships like relationship girl.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I just once I get a relationship, I'm
Speaker 5: back in another I'll be trying to be single.
Speaker 3: I think that's the.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: It's like as much as you try to.
Speaker 4: Be single, it's like love, Like love is so sweet
Speaker 4: and it's just so so delicious, and it's just like
Speaker 4: I don't want to just funk with somebody, like I
Speaker 4: want us to be right hard, like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: I want to go into it like that. It's just
Speaker 3: want to be in his skin because I want to
Speaker 3: be in his skin. I mean I want to Yeah,
Speaker 3: you want to be skinned.
Speaker 1: I don't have anybody's skinning be in right now. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be in somebody else getting real soon, dot.
Speaker 5: Come.
Speaker 3: Are you enjoying being back single? Yes?
Speaker 2: We just asked her about it before we started. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, she was for sixty days. Oh wow today Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was about sixty five. She would have got her
Speaker 3: sixty day so much. But it was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 3: Why it was? Have you have you responded to him yet?
Speaker 3: He called me about a week ago. I think y'all
Speaker 3: gonna fix that. No, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 3: think so either. But what happened, I just wasn't getting
Speaker 3: what I needed. She told them what she needed, he
Speaker 3: didn't deliver. Yeah, yeah, and we engaged. Now yeah, why
Speaker 3: you look more irritated than her?
Speaker 2: She irritated on your behalf?
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that because I was irritated too.
Speaker 3: But now I'm over it. What's next? Now?
Speaker 1: So let's talk about you know, ten years in a relationship.
Speaker 1: You're a relationship type of girl. What are some secrets
Speaker 1: that you have to make like a relationship last that long?
Speaker 1: Because you know, sometimes people feel like I.
Speaker 3: Want to hear it.
Speaker 2: No relationship expert at this point.
Speaker 3: All of us, I'm not. You're not affectionate. Has there
Speaker 3: been any breakups within the ten years or has it
Speaker 3: been ten years?
Speaker 5: Like I moved to la or something like I'm out
Speaker 5: of here and he came okay, So like we would
Speaker 5: try even if we separated, we still was talking ever,
Speaker 5: working all day.
Speaker 3: No, we wasn't. It's just we was just just good friends,
Speaker 3: like we really like friends. What's his song here? Leo?
Speaker 5: Did you date anybody else? And did he date anybody
Speaker 5: else during that time?
Speaker 2: During the time you wasn't gonna meet nobody in LA anyway?
Speaker 3: Not okay, so you're not affectionate. Does that bother him?
Speaker 3: He's not really affectionately that.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's weird. I think he do be
Speaker 5: wanting me to be more affectionate. You call him BROI
Speaker 5: I'm just not like, I'm just not affectionate like that.
Speaker 5: My mom was never like my mom was so like strict,
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 4: Think sometimes are you somewhat I feel that way too,
Speaker 4: Like my mom was so straked. So it's like that,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm lying, just like he got question and
Speaker 4: that's when everything.
Speaker 3: That's when you went to l a afectionate but you
Speaker 3: caught walking you no, no, no, yeah, he would have
Speaker 3: been playing. I was in the house. I was in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 5: This is in the beginning of the relationship. I was
Speaker 5: in the house and I'm working out and then he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'll be back. I'm about to take my mother to
Speaker 5: go get some food and ship. I'm like, all right
Speaker 5: here whatever, I don't care. And then he didn't come
Speaker 5: back all night. So I'm calling the hospitals, calling, I'm
Speaker 5: calling calling, and I'm thinking he died. I'm like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, You're never to do this because he called.
Speaker 5: The last time he called me, he was like, I'm
Speaker 5: on rockaway in Atlantic or some Rochester on it. So
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, he should have been here about
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes, thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: And he never came.
Speaker 5: So I'm calling, calling, calling, And then my mom was like, well,
Speaker 5: go by his mom house and see, because he said
Speaker 5: he took her to the.
Speaker 3: House he took.
Speaker 5: I'm giving advice. I got to the house that I'm
Speaker 5: thinking is the mom house and it's the girlfriend house
Speaker 5: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Not like a girlfriend. Well, the girls say nothing.
Speaker 5: So before we got into relationship, he was in a
Speaker 5: relationship and he was still goingnock.
Speaker 3: On the door.
Speaker 5: I continued in the door and the girl come to
Speaker 5: the door and I'm like, hi, I'm looking for David,
Speaker 5: like he said that his mom.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. So she's like, who are you?
Speaker 3: I'm like his girlfriend. She was like, okay, hold on,
Speaker 3: let me let me try to call on and see.
Speaker 3: And I'm not, I'm not, I don't know what. I
Speaker 3: didn't even ask who she was because I'm.
Speaker 5: Looking at her and I'm like, she's trying, like she
Speaker 5: didn't look like nothing because he used to take me
Speaker 5: over there on, so like, oh, I gotta run upstairs
Speaker 5: to get something from my nothing.
Speaker 3: You thought that was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 3: So you stated the scammer too. Was the beginning.
Speaker 5: It was the beginning, the beginning, But after that, I
Speaker 5: was like over because in the beginning, I was posting
Speaker 5: pictures of us like I'm doing ship, trying to be
Speaker 5: you know, like wiped up.
Speaker 3: After that happened, I'm like, oh, now you got me
Speaker 3: looking stupid. That is done.
Speaker 5: And then the affection just kind of drifted from there.
Speaker 5: But like, you know, we have moments where we be
Speaker 5: like but then but he's not super affectionate neither. So
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know, but you mean telling me
Speaker 5: he would want me to be a.
Speaker 3: Little bit more effect At this point, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't even know how to do it. Do y'all kind
Speaker 3: of when you sleep together, But he'd.
Speaker 5: Be choking me, you know what, like we you known
Speaker 5: here and now, But I think I still I'm just
Speaker 5: holding a grudge.
Speaker 1: Are you affectionate with the baby? Yeah, that's probably who
Speaker 1: you're giving your affection to so you know what.
Speaker 3: You can't you want to do this.
Speaker 1: You can't hold a grudge. If he's saying I need
Speaker 1: this like I want this, I'll be trying.
Speaker 3: I'll be trying. I've been trying.
Speaker 4: Are you affectionate? I'm affectionate for the most part. I
Speaker 4: I give what I'm getting. So if you loving me
Speaker 4: town you, I'm gonna give you that.
Speaker 1: To Okay, you seem like you'll be sweet in the relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So why is Bookie not your man?
Speaker 3: Bookie? Is my mean?
Speaker 7: He is?
Speaker 3: Okay? Just calling him Bookie Conaine. How long has this
Speaker 3: been going on? It's been a year. You know what's interesting.
Speaker 1: We talked to Ayana van Zan today from Fixing My
Speaker 1: Life Yeah wo and she was telling us that she
Speaker 1: thinks that people have sex too soon and that we
Speaker 1: should wait.
Speaker 3: Like ninety one and twenty days. Say that you think so, yeah,
Speaker 3: you wait all that long and then it's trash. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you think about it, and then you build them all
Speaker 3: of this affection for this person, and now the affection
Speaker 3: you will up all them hormones. You might need the
Speaker 3: fun And don't you teach somebody who's trash to be better?
Speaker 5: I think the only thing you can't work you can't
Speaker 5: compromise on is size, right, everything else you can kind
Speaker 5: of work.
Speaker 2: With, especially if you really incident. I feel like you're
Speaker 2: not connected in that way.
Speaker 4: Like have you ever had to train a guy to
Speaker 4: do things like to make you come to pussy? You
Speaker 4: couldn't tell somebody your spot a little bit like right there?
Speaker 3: Not not right there, that's aggressive, That was real.
Speaker 2: Said, women today are too aggressive right there.
Speaker 3: Right there, you'd be like, whoa, okay, what you gonna say?
Speaker 3: You had to change somebody before.
Speaker 5: No, this one guy like bit my whole pussy like
Speaker 5: my ship was punched him in his head, like get
Speaker 5: the how would why would you just eat that? Like
Speaker 5: you literally ate my whole like you ate it like
Speaker 5: you guys one, No, that was it's just one bite yeah,
Speaker 5: like it was like yeah and walk so he ate.
Speaker 1: When we taed to the guys listening, what are some
Speaker 1: things that they do that we don't like? Don't bite
Speaker 1: we heard it. Don't bite it as pussy are just
Speaker 1: in general in general.
Speaker 4: Don't rub it too hard, yes, don't rub it too hard.
Speaker 4: And I feel like sometimes when when we fucking not
Speaker 4: don't talking to somebody. I don't like a wine sometimes
Speaker 4: in it. I don't like a wine in it sometimes like.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 3: It is crazy, that's not always like why aren't you
Speaker 3: trying to stretch me out like.
Speaker 5: You want?
Speaker 3: You want all and trying to all of the service
Speaker 3: of you want.
Speaker 1: But it's like I feel like they need to take
Speaker 1: more time giving for play instead of just trying to
Speaker 1: rush and stick right. Yeah, take more time with the
Speaker 1: four play and and take more time pleasing us because
Speaker 1: they're so ready to catch the nut that they forget
Speaker 1: that we want one to. Yeah, you know, okay, get yours,
Speaker 1: but I still want to internal organsm too. I would
Speaker 1: like you to come in a moment.
Speaker 3: I want to together. Did you have an arguast and
Speaker 3: the first time you had sex with him? Yep? Because
Speaker 3: that's a lot to do. Yeah, so you are multi orgasmic,
Speaker 3: like you have multiple Yeah? Okay, about him right right.
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: For nothing? She about to send him as sex Okay,
Speaker 3: even though you don't like it. By what about you? Well,
Speaker 3: if you could tell guys like don't do this, like
Speaker 3: what would be some things that you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: what's funny?
Speaker 5: Because even though I'm not that affectionate. I'm like a
Speaker 5: sub and when they come to sex, like i'd like
Speaker 5: for a guy to like to.
Speaker 3: Tell you a dominate. So I'm like.
Speaker 2: A lot of women are like submissive, like in the bedroom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I never knew that I was because I
Speaker 3: always thought I was like yeah, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Aggressive in life in general, and be like so dominant
Speaker 1: in the bedroom is a good time to not have to.
Speaker 3: Feel like let go, let go go, and let me
Speaker 3: tell you God, let go and let girl.
Speaker 1: Jasmine if you had to say, you know, things that
Speaker 1: you wish guys wouldn't do, just to give them some advice.
Speaker 2: But just because I think they eat pussy too long?
Speaker 3: Too long? Yeah, what's too long? How could you keep going?
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's just sometimes I just just a little bit
Speaker 6: and just fuck me like I don't And it depends
Speaker 6: on the woman everybody.
Speaker 3: So you don't want to have to go to you
Speaker 3: don't want to have to go to orgasm each time
Speaker 3: you can go.
Speaker 2: I don't need the orgasm each time, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, No, I don't. I don't need that each time.
Speaker 6: And then also if I have orgasms just stop because
Speaker 6: we can start fucking like I don't you know, you.
Speaker 5: Know when I'm going, I want to keep going and
Speaker 5: you like fighting them off, like stop after orgasm.
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I could do it again, and account I
Speaker 3: want it? Do you want it done?
Speaker 5: But real know when you have what's so hard that
Speaker 5: you like, don't touch me, don't and they just want
Speaker 5: to keep going because experience.
Speaker 3: Them like don't don't touch me.
Speaker 5: It's just like I can't go no more, like like
Speaker 5: I think everybody's yeah, and I'm an old bitch.
Speaker 3: So maybe were you like that younger you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, or always like that?
Speaker 1: I think I always was, like I think, so I
Speaker 1: don't have like very very intense orgasms. Yeah, i'd be
Speaker 1: like out of body experiences.
Speaker 2: I'm a little loud, so.
Speaker 3: I'm a shake, keep shaking. Do you like guys? You
Speaker 3: do you like like your guy to be loud? Loud?
Speaker 3: It's crazy loud moaning. That's the same Like that was me.
Speaker 3: I like I like it low and oh yeah, not
Speaker 3: too much, don't be screaming and stuff like you want
Speaker 3: a masculine amazing like not super like I can get
Speaker 3: you going a little bit. What about if you talks?
Speaker 5: I love I love it to Okay, Well, I used
Speaker 5: to watch points and just listen to the talk, like
Speaker 5: I don't like. I don't like.
Speaker 3: Don't talk too much. Don't ask me questions. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 2: Questions what I should say because I'm not really.
Speaker 7: A talker, Like I keep going, yes, keep going that
Speaker 7: I can keep going, keep going, don't get that.
Speaker 3: My day, that's my day.
Speaker 2: Have a suggestion for me, because I'm gonna hit.
Speaker 3: All these without Yeah, but I like to hear it.
Speaker 3: I don't be liking the talk.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't like to do the talk. I'll
Speaker 5: be loud though, like moaning. I'm like I'm going to
Speaker 5: say when a spell. Well, I don't be wanting to
Speaker 5: say the wrong thing.
Speaker 3: What about coming daddy or something you daddy?
Speaker 2: I don't like daddy.
Speaker 3: She got daddy. I just don't like daddy. I just
Speaker 3: don't like daddy.
Speaker 2: I'm got a daddy, girl either, I got a daddy,
Speaker 2: So I don't really want to I.
Speaker 3: Feel you it's a different daddy though anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to correlate them.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about that for a second.
Speaker 1: Because your freestyle, you do talk about your dad leaving
Speaker 1: and not coming back, and you're like, I don't care
Speaker 1: if you know, has.
Speaker 2: He TikTok on the grave?
Speaker 3: That was not that dumb with her dad, But.
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you about that, Like, has
Speaker 1: he since because you've been you know, doing your ship
Speaker 1: blowing up? Has he tried to reach out to you
Speaker 1: since at all?
Speaker 3: Since the freestyle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, because in the freestyle said
Speaker 4: that he reached out to me, and that's why I'm
Speaker 4: like after that, No, I haven't talked to him since.
Speaker 3: I mean, like he called me just when I started
Speaker 3: blowing up, like twenty nineteen, and.
Speaker 4: Dad was it like we was just I don't even
Speaker 4: remember our conversation for real, I really don't. Maybe it
Speaker 4: didn't matter to me that much.
Speaker 3: Right, so he just left and just it wasn't it
Speaker 3: didn't give just left.
Speaker 4: He My mom and dad are both from Nigeria, so
Speaker 4: I don't really know the I get a lot of stories. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I believe what happened was something happened between them that
Speaker 4: caused my mom to change the locks. I remember when
Speaker 4: the locks was changed, even though I was three, I
Speaker 4: remember that. I remember the I remember the arguing that
Speaker 4: night and stuff like that. The locks was definitely changed,
Speaker 4: and then just never seen him again. I remember we
Speaker 4: spoke probably a few times when I was little, like
Speaker 4: four or five years old, and then that was it,
Speaker 4: like just never again. But my mom My mom told
Speaker 4: me that child support, like she put him on child support,
Speaker 4: so he owes a whole bunch of money. She was
Speaker 4: told that he was trying to come to America, found
Speaker 4: out that he owed money in child support. They wasn't
Speaker 4: lett him come, and it's just like never mind, will
Speaker 4: to stay with my family in Nigeria?
Speaker 3: Right, fuck y'all?
Speaker 4: Wow, you think there's ever a chance that she'll you know,
Speaker 4: I'm actually planning on going to Nigeria next month, Okay
Speaker 4: to see him because there my mom and dad is
Speaker 4: a it's a big age difference, you know.
Speaker 3: Back then it was like, you know, he got money,
Speaker 3: so you know, marry this man. So he's I think in.
Speaker 4: His like seventies. Oh wow, yeah, so the sixties seventies.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go see him.
Speaker 3: Right, And here's the thing.
Speaker 6: You only get one side of it, which could be
Speaker 6: the accurate side, but also it gives you some perspective.
Speaker 3: Our parents listen, we can't even look at them like
Speaker 3: they know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: They Yeah, that's why I'm like, I don't put nine
Speaker 4: past my mom, Like, if that's what happened. If his
Speaker 4: story's tool, your story tool is like as you grow up,
Speaker 4: you wereize she was a little toxic?
Speaker 3: Was you a little toxic? This toxic? I sometimes you
Speaker 3: don't know?
Speaker 1: And then I think sometimes their relationship don't work, and
Speaker 1: then that kind of trickles.
Speaker 4: Down, like she was a young woman that had to
Speaker 4: marry an older man, came to Amerca, she probably met somebody.
Speaker 3: I got a stepfather, So maybe that fucked it up too.
Speaker 3: So look at how you turned out.
Speaker 5: Though, Okay, I mean I think if there's a time
Speaker 5: you think you would document this when you go or
Speaker 5: you just want to.
Speaker 3: I probably would. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's really gonna be really emotional. I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 4: because you know, just the topic, like speaking about my
Speaker 4: father and just my childhood everything, it makes me start Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I don't like that.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 4: You know, it's this healing that has to be done,
Speaker 4: and I feel it every time. So I just need
Speaker 4: to do that I don't really care for cameras.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, because you know, and what I love
Speaker 1: about both of you is that I feel like women
Speaker 1: can relate to you and people in general, can you know,
Speaker 1: just to see both of y'all doing like your thing
Speaker 1: and just to come and being vulnerable and transparent because
Speaker 1: it's not all all the time.
Speaker 3: It's not a Kiki Ki all time. Yeah. We go
Speaker 3: through shit, real life shit everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this industry is, like you said, it's a
Speaker 1: really hard fucked up industry to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sharks and they're gonna pounce on that ass
Speaker 5: had every chance, you know.
Speaker 1: But you guys have both had some great relationships. Look,
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, there was issues with you and
Speaker 1: Lula Brooke, but y'all after that popped out together, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's a positive thing. And guess what, like things happen,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's miscommunications and sometimes we don't know, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it is just like the business is not easy,
Speaker 1: you know, for everybody, and so you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to like maintain certain things because there's such a big
Speaker 1: difference between business and like real friendships and relationships.
Speaker 3: You have to learn that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I have to learn it because like tourists people,
Speaker 5: I feel like like when we be like I'm your friend,
Speaker 5: like we're gonna go crazy, go on. Every situation is
Speaker 5: kind of different, you know, and I don't fuck with
Speaker 5: a lot of people, So when if I focus on it,
Speaker 5: I'm like all the way there, like I'm putting you
Speaker 5: before me type shit like and then I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: I gotta learn like kind of separate certain things, like
Speaker 5: you know, business relationships from like so because I'm a
Speaker 5: type of person, i'd be like, oh if I can't
Speaker 5: if I can't really get down with you, I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna even be around y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you got to learn how to get to
Speaker 3: the money with the business. You gotta just got to
Speaker 3: handle the business and you just keep people in the
Speaker 3: tier that they belong with it well.
Speaker 6: And also sometimes you know, just because you don't you
Speaker 6: won't handle the situation like another person would doesn't mean
Speaker 6: that they're necessarily wrong. As you get older and you
Speaker 6: have more life experiences, you kind of see different perspectives
Speaker 6: and you're like, you know what, Okay, I can kind
Speaker 6: of I get that. On the I was going you know,
Speaker 6: I was going through something at that time, so I
Speaker 6: get it. You know, just because somebody doesn't handle something
Speaker 6: the same way doesn't mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know, sometimes it's a conversation too, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: hard for people to do that when everyone's watching from
Speaker 1: the outside chiving in. And then he started listening to
Speaker 1: those voices.
Speaker 3: Like that's what really because that most of the ship,
Speaker 3: like the surrounding people. People will ship on bag.
Speaker 4: And it's their entertainment, but in your real life, literally
Speaker 4: they're entertainment because they know that they're getting to you.
Speaker 4: And it's just like we walk into somebody head like this, yeah,
Speaker 4: big and famous, I'm gonna keep going yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think for you, Cleo Chapa, just even your
Speaker 1: whole like ascent in this business from you know, doing
Speaker 1: those videos that have gone viral that people love, and
Speaker 1: then we've seen you on rap shit, you know, you
Speaker 1: have a couple of songs on the mixtape. And then
Speaker 1: I Spice, we've seen you with Ice Spice, and you
Speaker 1: guys have a good rapport, you know, with each other.
Speaker 1: Those are really valuable things that everybody's not gonna have.
Speaker 1: But it is also a testament to you and your
Speaker 1: personality and your talent. Person you know, and Billy b
Speaker 1: like to see the people.
Speaker 3: That fuck with you.
Speaker 1: That's a testament to your personality and your talent, because
Speaker 1: you got to have both. I think you can't be
Speaker 1: talented and be an asshole. Yeah, because people really won't
Speaker 1: fuck with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, because they they like they put people
Speaker 5: already have preconceived notions about female especially female artists.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, they're hard to work. Well, you're gonna
Speaker 3: come here, You're gonna come lady, You're gonna complain, You're
Speaker 3: gonna want this thing like they always so they already
Speaker 3: come with this, like and then you acted like niggas
Speaker 3: don't do that, like what makes us so different? And
Speaker 3: we were just doing what the niggas do. We're just
Speaker 3: artists in general, like mom.
Speaker 4: Damn, we want shit perfected, we want shit how we
Speaker 4: wanted to look because we're artists.
Speaker 3: Like that's my heart, Like yeah right.
Speaker 1: And that's when it comes to videos, when it comes
Speaker 1: to so what's their plans like when these EP comes, do.
Speaker 3: You have dates?
Speaker 4: Like, let us know, do I have I don't have
Speaker 4: an exact date. I would say early twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Okay, like winter soon winter yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, four yeah, January.
Speaker 3: You know it's a Capricorn Q you album. It's a
Speaker 3: Capricorn album. Okay, So Spring Experience twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm dropping a single this month, rock Start,
Speaker 4: and I'm actually gonna preview preview it at Mono Leio's concert.
Speaker 1: That's so yeah, I see you posting. I'm like, are
Speaker 1: we gonna get a little snippet or something?
Speaker 2: So excited, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3: This is really like one of my favorite songs to date.
Speaker 4: It's like it's really like a mixer, like the my
Speaker 4: childhood tunes that I really used to bump to and
Speaker 4: like you know that New York drill Ship, and it's
Speaker 4: just together, It's just it gives.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear with this. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: get started, and you know, you have an eclectic taste
Speaker 1: of music too, outside of the music that you do,
Speaker 1: but what you listen to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love old like alternative music. I love Lina
Speaker 4: del Ray really really bad. I don't know if y'all know.
Speaker 4: Love Lina Delray, love Coldplay, Maroon five, like I have
Speaker 4: a yeah. And then I like old school music tool
Speaker 4: like fifties, sixties, seventies.
Speaker 2: I love every ye you're a weirdough for real and
Speaker 2: a good way.
Speaker 3: Yeah weird.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's what makes you a good musician,
Speaker 4: all types of I haven't here for just hits, Like
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what year, like, if it's a hit.
Speaker 1: If it sounds good, whatever genre it isever it came out,
Speaker 1: it sound amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that all right?
Speaker 1: And what about you, Billy b talk about like your project?
Speaker 1: How many songs have done so far for this EP?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: God, I do so much songs because I like to
Speaker 5: do a lot and then just pick the best ones
Speaker 5: and put them together or pick which ones match together.
Speaker 5: So but this EP probably gonna have like twelve songs
Speaker 5: of ten to twelve, and I'm just working.
Speaker 3: On the rollout.
Speaker 5: I need my rollouts to be like, I'm so big
Speaker 5: on rollouts because I feel like, as artist, you kind
Speaker 5: of set the tone for how people gonna receive the music.
Speaker 3: Like, so I wanted to come in where you be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this bitch is coming like you know me, Like I
Speaker 3: want thatad ass. I need that impact. So I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna give no dates though, because the peoples will.
Speaker 4: Be at my door like hey how about that? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I realize that too. I have to stop saying dates
Speaker 4: because we hold up to them dates and you'll be like.
Speaker 3: No, but it's a good reason. They right that they care.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very when they be mad because it's like, yo,
Speaker 5: calm down, all right.
Speaker 3: And so okay, so when is rock Star coming out?
Speaker 4: And rock Star is coming I can't give a day yet,
Speaker 4: but it's definitely coming out this month.
Speaker 3: Okay, definitely this month, and many days.
Speaker 2: Left in this month that much.
Speaker 3: We are two weeks one week, so definitely coming out soon.
Speaker 1: And we get to hear a little preview at Mono Leo,
Speaker 1: so you kind of got to put it out after that, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you can't do a little preview and then we can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm shooting the video Friday, so it's most likely
Speaker 4: going to be out next week.
Speaker 1: Okay, Thanksgiving Tree for y'all, but you know what, believe me,
Speaker 1: and you know what, clear Trappa, thank y'all so much
Speaker 1: for joining us.
Speaker 3: We had a good time. I love a New York episode.
Speaker 3: I love it too. Thank you for having me time.
Speaker 3: Get out of here, alright, I'm glad that I love that.
Speaker 5: I'm already thinking what the name of this episode is
Speaker 5: going to be because we said some funny things. I
Speaker 5: already have an idea. All right, we're gonna talk about it. Well,
Speaker 5: thank you so much though, honestly for joining us.
Speaker 1: You got to come back, you know, both of you
Speaker 1: when your projected out, because you know, we want to
Speaker 1: make sure that we support and we had a good time.
Speaker 3: Then is it way up? It's slip service, slip service service.
Speaker 3: I said that