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Speaker 1: buying should be. Well, here we are midway through the

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Speaker 1: first round of the NBA Draft, and there's already been

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Speaker 1: some sip yokoop Flag number one. Sure that we thought

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Speaker 1: that was coming, but there's been some surprises already.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you've got some big surprise, A couple

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Speaker 3: of names you didn't expect to hear no raft. I

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Speaker 3: really the fact that Shams has no competition means there's

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Speaker 3: no pick tipping and you can just sit with his

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Speaker 3: feet up. What's official, like all of those things. It's

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Speaker 3: a new new time. We've got a center from China

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Speaker 3: being picked by Memphis being adding to their roster as

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Speaker 3: we we get things underway tonight. But the number of

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Speaker 3: people that I talked to today going, eh, what's on

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Speaker 3: the show tonight, I'm like, it's the NBA Draft, Like

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Speaker 3: wait it is, Like yeah, yeah, it really is. I

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Speaker 3: promise didn't the didn't the season just then?

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Speaker 1: Yep, just yep, just like like forty eight hours ago,

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Speaker 1: and we're onto the next season. We're onto the next

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Speaker 1: season already, we're looking the next draft. Doc Rivers, No,

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Speaker 1: they did, but it doesn't matter because the Mets won. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not that the Mets one. This is a basketball show.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you got time. We're not even gonna

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Speaker 1: mean unless they unless they hire a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: They were, but boy, you were gripping though, watching you

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Speaker 3: sweat out that ninth inning. Yeah, that was some of

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Speaker 3: the most fun I've had, especially once Diaz had to

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Speaker 3: He starts getting up, like why is this guy getting up?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, please bring him in nowt to

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Speaker 3: save the day, put out the fire please, six.

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Speaker 1: Six to one in the ninth inning, we had to

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a big win. Well, but I mean, bases loaded.

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Speaker 3: He had to come in and shut the door. Danny

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Speaker 3: Pinzaro couldn't close the door. He no, he could not.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't show anybody who the boss was.

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Speaker 3: This is what happened. He did.

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Speaker 1: But big, I mean people picked tonight that you didn't

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Speaker 1: even have that. Experts are gonna say, we didn't even

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Speaker 3: No, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Like this guy wasn't even on our draft board and

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Speaker 1: he goes in the top fifteen. Well, I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: I mean we got the greatest layup of all time

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Speaker 3: where you literally had to bet one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I mean because you knew that

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Speaker 3: You think anybody laid the one hundred grand to win

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Speaker 1: I could see like a billionaire doing that, saying I'm

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Speaker 1: make money, and you don't I know where to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a huge percentage, but gains are gains.

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Speaker 1: Looks like in the gym. Right, we'll get to big

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Speaker 1: things in the draft of a second. But first, I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Blazers want to select Cedric Coward out of Washington State. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go. This is a guy, let's go get him.

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Speaker 1: And uh, here was the announcement instead as a prize

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Speaker 5: So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward here.

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Speaker 5: So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.

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Speaker 1: Here, Colin Coward from Fox Sports Radio. And that's one.

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Speaker 1: It's selected. You know I started at Portland, not finishing there,

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Speaker 1: didn't work out, neither Day's Bailey not going j Mack.

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Speaker 1: You didn't know had skills, did you?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I immediately searched. Not going back? When's

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Speaker 3: Melika Andrews contract up? And is she joining the volume?

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Speaker 3: Not going back? No, she's up in the fall.

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Speaker 1: I was there Pacific Northwest, great Place, great place? Was

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Speaker 1: there a Nike story? Everybody goes great Place? Not going back? No,

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Speaker 1: but they want thirty minutes a night out of me.

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Speaker 1: I got a three hour show, three hours thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I will go. I don't know what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not I've been there, don't

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Speaker 1: go back, go back, don't go back home again. That's problem,

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Speaker 1: he don't it in song? Going back home is overrated, Yo,

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Speaker 1: don't take a hometown hero, go.

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Speaker 3: Don't go back home, Go somewhere. Have you every adventure

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Speaker 3: go back at the very end?

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Speaker 1: Not going back?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: You want me to take threes?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Can I take threes? I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Do I have any range?

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Speaker 1: Colin's already got on his Twitter page like a super

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Speaker 1: had a big impact in Portland, so he.

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Speaker 3: Did, hanging out with r Vetus Sabonisah was on TV,

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Speaker 7: Jason's either that or Malika Andrews has a feelings for Colin.

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Speaker 3: That's why I asked about the contract though. Is she

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Speaker 3: a free agent? She's a pending free agent.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Maybe he never knows that could be there, or

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Speaker 1: maybe I leave, Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I go play Mike.

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Speaker 7: He's in Chicago. Now, how do you feel about Colin

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Speaker 3: He's a good distributor, he's a good leader, he's a

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Speaker 3: mean we need icons in Chicago, Like we haven't had

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Speaker 3: one of those, you know, twenty five years and harre

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Speaker 3: Grows had his good run. But other than that, I mean,

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Speaker 3: come on, I'm going back to ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: How much did people at ESPN. How much did they

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Speaker 1: just go h come on?

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Speaker 3: Like what she said?

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Speaker 1: Who was the girl?

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Speaker 7: Who was the girl before Malika? Rachel probably saying can

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Speaker 7: we get Rachel Nichols, get.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, that was the whole thing. That was the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Her Maria Taylor, who's gonna take away and stuff in

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Speaker 1: Could take over it. I got drafted. I might hold out.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go? He's Bailey showed I don't

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Speaker 3: It feels like he needs to get the team together,

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Speaker 3: you know, to be on the black top and show

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Speaker 3: off some shooting skills or a couple of behind the

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: Huhuh, I don't know. They drafted the fifth overall pick

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Speaker 1: I don't forget Oregon Trail. Yes, get all the way

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Speaker 1: fly or States, West Coast, big deal. Not going back

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Speaker 1: to Portland, Nope, Nope here now.

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Speaker 3: Bob Dole, still gaining acceptance. That's where your kidens is going. Portland, Connecticut,

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles, Chicago. Nope, not gonna do it. Not going back.

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Speaker 1: Can't make me gonna hold out, can't can't maybe do

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Speaker 1: it where I was wrong the bulls. Maybe I've traded

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Speaker 1: move my rights. Here's Jason with the assist. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was nice knowing all of you.

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Speaker 3: We're getting fired, had a good run. You're kidding.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna play this back on Colin Show tomorrow. They're

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Speaker 1: absolutely gonna play this back.

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Speaker 7: It'll be the funniest five minutes that shows ever held.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, now, come on, come on. Whose I

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Speaker 1: don't know, does anybody? I mean, I don't know anybody

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Speaker 1: else that could do a Colin Coward like like we can.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know anybody did you know they have a voodoo donut?

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Speaker 1: What's with the witchcraft?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So yeah, Colin Coward selected by the Blazers.

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Speaker 1: Really lottery pick baby, Yeah, where's his tops now? Card,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready tell me man, New Blazing five coming up,

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Speaker 1: New Blazing five and it's actually it'll beat me on

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Speaker 1: the court with the guys now and send me giving

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Speaker 1: picks New Blazing.

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Speaker 3: Five television time out. Just a little banner he put

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Speaker 1: Okay? All right? So uh there was again player you

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Speaker 3: Well, we needed sublevity again. Everybody knew who number one was.

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Speaker 3: Then it became a all right, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: people went from Cooper Flegg. I don't know. I know

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Speaker 3: Colin Coward, Okay that I know. That's the next guy.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I know that guy.

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Speaker 1: I think the rest of the rest of the NBA draft.

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Speaker 1: That's the first guy that the average fan goes, I

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Speaker 3: Did we at least get five minutes of Ron Harper highlights?

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Speaker 3: When Dylan Harper got I mean because his mom became

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Speaker 3: a celebrity immediately. Yes, yes, that's one of the other

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Speaker 3: you know, subplots of The Night of as we always know,

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Speaker 3: the moms, the girlfriends, the wives, the girlfriends, going back

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Speaker 3: many a year, go back to that. You know, the

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Speaker 3: and her internet fame or infamy as it were, Laker legend,

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Speaker 3: his dad Ron Harper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two titles with them? Did he win all three?

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Speaker 7: The guys, I got the twelve championship?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, But with the Lake did he win all three?

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Speaker 1: When they won?

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Speaker 1: So here we are. NBA Draft going as predicted, with

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Speaker 1: But he wanted to go to Washing Okay Washing. A

435
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Speaker 1: couple of the teams were there. Hey, I'm gonna follow

436
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Speaker 1: that lead. Now players are saying, whoa, I'm not doing

437
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Speaker 1: that again, because this is a guy that was a

438
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Speaker 1: top three, top five talent and he got taken by

439
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Speaker 1: a team that I don't think he wanted to go there,

440
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: and it's a mystery and it's out of his hands. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

441
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 1: Maybe Philadelphia would have been better off if I had

442
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Speaker 1: not said anything. And I go to be there, I'm

443
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Speaker 1: playing with Tyres Max here Joelle Embiid and I'm playing

444
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Speaker 1: for a heritage team, and I can make a lot

445
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Speaker 1: more money than whatever it is an endorsement deals. I

446
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Speaker 1: that's a better situation for me. I'm going earlier in

447
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Speaker 1: the draft. Now players are gonna say, okay, I saw

448
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 1: A's Bailey with the power play. He tried it and

449
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: he failed. And now the NBA by just this one

450
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: fell swoop of yeah, we're still taking you in top five,

451
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 1: A team's still taking you even though we don't know

452
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Speaker 1: if you want to play there.

453
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

454
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Speaker 1: I think that puts an end to all of the strategies,

455
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Speaker 1: the A's Bailey type strategies. We're gonna sae well.

456
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Speaker 3: Also, I mean, if you're a team, he may still

457
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Speaker 3: get where he wants wants to go. Right, We've got

458
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Speaker 3: a lot of activity over the next week, but you're

459
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Speaker 3: not gonna pass on a guy who's six 's eight

460
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: and scores like he does at that point, either he's

461
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: gonna come and play and be part of your squad,

462
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 3: or guess what, he's a great trade chip if you

463
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Speaker 3: see something else in the marketplace.

464
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Speaker 6: Right.

465
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Speaker 3: There were some reports to your thinking of Washington, New

466
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 3: Orleans or Brooklyn where three three teams that he was

467
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Speaker 3: kind of eager at the back end of the top

468
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Speaker 3: ten to potentially join with. So yeah, it's that power

469
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Speaker 3: play because we were talking for months, well years in

470
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Speaker 3: the background, right the NFL collusion stuff, going back to

471
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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, all those things, a lot of handwringing and

472
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Speaker 3: some of the stuff being operated in plane sight that no,

473
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Speaker 3: nothing to see here, said big here. Players are always

474
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Speaker 3: trying to manipulate the system to get what they want. Here,

475
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: it was just a little more obvious of yeah, I'm

476
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Speaker 3: not even gonna go for the work. Usually you'd still

477
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Speaker 3: get on the plane. I mean, look at Shador Sanders

478
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Speaker 3: went on the plane, still took the trips, and what

479
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 3: do we keep hearing sabotaging plus his dad talking and

480
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Speaker 3: whatever the hell in the NFL process.

481
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Speaker 1: You need any more than than what you saw with

482
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Speaker 1: A's Bailey, what you saw from Shador Sanders, who deon

483
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Speaker 1: Sanders very publicly saying there's teams we don't want him

484
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Speaker 1: to go to. Now, if that's the case, you know,

485
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Speaker 1: they made it known to Team sure, hey Chador doesn't

486
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Speaker 1: want to go there, and they just said, well, okay,

487
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Speaker 1: blank that we can take somebody else. But as I

488
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Speaker 1: think multiple times they also said you're not the guy.

489
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Speaker 1: He's Bailey's a guy that's gonna come in and get tributed.

490
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Speaker 1: Let's say let's say that didn't happen. Let's say he

491
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Speaker 1: didn't say anything. There weren't teams that that Chador Sanders

492
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Speaker 1: didn't want to go to d On Sanders stayed out

493
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Speaker 1: of it, and it was just simply Shadour and his

494
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Speaker 1: pre draft visits and all of that. Does he get

495
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Speaker 1: taken early in the fifth round?

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

497
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Speaker 1: I think he does, And I think he gets taken

498
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Speaker 1: early enough where he's still an asset and not a curiosity,

499
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Speaker 1: because that's what he is in Cleveland right now. And

500
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Speaker 1: you're a fifth round pick, you're a curious.

501
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Speaker 3: You're a curiosity to give you right, but maybe you

502
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Speaker 3: are maybe you're also someone that can get cut right.

503
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Speaker 1: They don't need to keep the fifth round pick, you know,

504
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Speaker 1: I need to keep you, but third round pick, second

505
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Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, we got to kind of see you

506
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Speaker 1: extend your chance of succeeding in the NFL. So now,

507
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: if you're if you're looking at the last two drafts,

508
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Speaker 1: I mean, are are you gonna do that? If you're

509
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Speaker 1: a player and say no, no, I'm holding out for this.

510
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: If you're Eli Manning and you're the overall number one

511
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Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, and the team has the

512
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Speaker 1: pick that you don't want to go there, you can

513
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Speaker 1: pull that pick. But when your ace back, Cooper Flagg

514
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Speaker 1: could have done that. Cooper Flagg could have said, yeah,

515
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Doubt, don't take me

516
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Speaker 1: because I'm not going there, And then it would have been, oh,

517
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Speaker 1: what do we do? Do we trade the pick? Do

518
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Speaker 1: we take Dylan Harper, do we still take Cooper Flagg?

519
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Speaker 1: Do he take Hooper Flag and try to trade him.

520
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Speaker 1: He has that cachet as Bailey does not, and shod

521
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Speaker 1: Or Sanders thought he had the cache, turned out he didn't, right,

522
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Speaker 1: So very few players can do that. And so if

523
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Speaker 1: you've seen that now in the last three months, we've

524
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Speaker 1: seen it now twice where players said, yeah, we're gonna

525
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Speaker 1: dictate where we go. Guess what, No, you're not. Oh well,

526
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that anymore. NFL and NBA patting themselves

527
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Speaker 1: on the back sand Yeah, we put we put that

528
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Speaker 1: conversation to.

529
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Speaker 3: Bet, put that wall up and uh, paint over it

530
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Speaker 3: and it's nice and for the next guy to try

531
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Speaker 3: to run through it as well. No, but look, Cubrius

532
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: agents parents family, your your buddies, whatever, they're still gonna

533
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Speaker 3: be in your ear. You're still gonna have guys that

534
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Speaker 3: we're gonna read about and hear all of the Hey,

535
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: they don't want to go to teams, and there's certainly squads.

536
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Speaker 3: You don't want any part of Utah And what have

537
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: we heard the last several days. Yeah, Kessler could be

538
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: a guy on the move. Almost any discernible asset may

539
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Speaker 3: be there for the taking. Yeah. So if you're a's

540
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Speaker 3: baile leg what am I walking? I could become the guy.

541
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Speaker 1: And I understand it. I understand it. But but it's again,

542
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: it's a privilege to play in the NBA, not a right.

543
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: And the NBA's got to say, uh, we have to

544
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Speaker 1: look got if we allow players to come in and

545
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: pick their teams, we're not gonna have a league. Half

546
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Speaker 1: the league is gonna go bankrupt because they're not gonna

547
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Speaker 1: get players. Well they're good, they're all gonna go. Cooper

548
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Speaker 1: Flagg would be a Laker, Dylan Harper would be a

549
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Speaker 1: Nick Right. I mean, that's kind of how boy. It

550
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Speaker 1: would become Survival of the fittest. There's only so many

551
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Speaker 1: roster spots per squad.

552
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Speaker 3: Hey, do you want to go make a million and

553
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Speaker 3: be guy fifteen on the bench over there?

554
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Speaker 1: Hey, no, Cooper Flagg having a big season as the

555
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Speaker 1: ninth man. Uh, you know for for the Knicks coming

556
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: off the bench, he's he's getting some good minutes there

557
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: playing Zion.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a limit. And say he's not playing

559
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Speaker 3: for the three million dollar or no, the five point

560
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: six mid level exemption, he'd be getting at that point

561
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Speaker 3: where we're trying to calculate how quickly he can get

562
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: to a billion dollars.

563
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Speaker 8: Uh.

564
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Speaker 3: But for Ace Bailey, Yeah, you want to talk about

565
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: a guy who really did not look like he was

566
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: and he thought he was gonna get over It goes

567
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: to the larger question that is always swirling in the

568
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: background about the word fair is literally a four letter word,

569
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: but in many respects, the draft as a quote fair

570
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: process is one that we're always going to challenge. Yeah,

571
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: and certainly players, if as a group they decided to

572
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: hell think about football next year, if it goes to

573
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: play as to plan with arch Manning, now he couldn't

574
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Speaker 3: beat out quinn Ewers who got drafted in the seventh round.

575
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: Just to remind folks of how that all worked out

576
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: for those that want to build the statue to him already,

577
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: but we may be looking at it next year. Hey,

578
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: is he gonna come out? I mean, he's a man

579
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: because he'll always have the excuse if he decides to

580
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: go back, just just say, wow, he's a manning clearly

581
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: he was always going to go back for another year

582
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: versus yeah, I don't want to go to that team,

583
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: like he will never have to verbalize that because he's

584
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: got the built in surname excuse of staying for another

585
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: year of schooling.

586
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Speaker 1: But we might be months away from those same conversations now.

587
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: And here's why I can tell you about the draft

588
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: and why, oh, Jason, you're defending the draft. The players

589
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: want to go so okay, I understand. Again, I understand

590
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: not wanting to start your career in a certain place. Okay.

591
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: But here's where here's where I win the argument. You

592
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: have to understand that the draft is the best way.

593
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: The NBA draft, NFL draft, Major League baseball drafts have

594
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: been done this way forever, right, This is this is

595
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: how they do it. Teams are the worst records, they

596
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: pick at the top. They have the best chance tocceed parody.

597
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: It's all good for the league. Right now, you can

598
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: poke holes in some of these philosophies. I'm not saying

599
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: you can't, and I'm not saying this is subthly. Oh well,

600
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: it's always done this way. That's like the worst reason

601
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: to do something. I always say that the worst way

602
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: to do something to say because we've already done it

603
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: that way. No, My point is that we've done all

604
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: the draft. We've done the draft this way forever, and

605
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: there's never been a better idea to change the draft too.

606
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: If there was a better idea, then we would have

607
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: done it, and the draft would have been changed, would

608
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: have been changed something else, and it would be a

609
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: case of oh wow, well now this is fair to everybody.

610
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: It's fair to the team's fair to the players. It's

611
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: impossible to do. The draft isn't a perfect situation circumstance.

612
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: The draft is perfect. But it's the closest thing we

613
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: have to doing to put getting players from college or

614
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: outside of college into professional sports. It's the closest. It's

615
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: the best version that we have, and sometimes you have

616
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: to understand that, Okay, the best thing we can come

617
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: up with is what we have to go with. Right,

618
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: If you could come up with something better. Great, But

619
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: the thing is nobody's come up with anything better. Oh

620
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: what if every year a different team gets the number

621
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: one overall pick in the draft? Oh so you're saying,

622
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: And so if a team stinks, hey, sorry, you're not

623
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: getting the first round pick for fifteen more years. Come on, man,

624
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: like that's the fair.

625
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: Again, that's fifteen general manager, there's.

626
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: Bigger holes in every in every other possibility you want

627
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: to put in to replace the draft than there is

628
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: with the draft.

629
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Speaker 3: I want to do it like a silent auction for

630
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: fantasy for all, you get some extra dollars if you know,

631
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: based on training, other draft picks and what your salary

632
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: cap space is, or you do it.

633
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: You do it like free agency in fantasies. What you're saying,

634
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: if you have like one hundred dollars for your budget,

635
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: you have to decide how much you're bidding on these plays,

636
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: and that's how you go.

637
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: And you have extra cash based on based on the

638
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: draft choices that you'd stockpiled. So so, oh k C

639
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: would have more money to spend in our auction because

640
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: of past moves.

641
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: Instead of as we how much money you bidding on

642
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely. It's boy, can you go thirty five dollars

643
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: on Cooper flag?

644
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: Well? How can you go?

645
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: How many teams would say I'm putting all one hundred

646
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: dollars on Cooper flag? Everybody the time we start flipping coin,

647
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: here's one hundred bucks on Cooper flags. We can have

648
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Cooper flag hundred bucks?

649
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: Great? I mean again, find something better, and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that's better. I'll tell you one thing that is better,

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Speaker 1: though I lied about that. Rick Bucker, f S one

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Speaker 1: NBA insider joins us next his re action to Cooper

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Speaker 1: flag the Draft, What's next for trades and free agency?

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Speaker 1: Always the must listen with Rick? That's next Jason to

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Speaker 1: Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Round one of the NBA Draft. We are nearing the end,

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Speaker 1: Phoenix on the clock. What do we think so far?

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Speaker 1: Nobody better to talk to then, FS one insider extraordinaire

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Speaker 1: and host of the On the Ball podcast. He's on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Rick Bucker. It is Rick Buker. Rick, Happy

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Speaker 1: Draft night?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 6: Thank you? I'm not doing as well as Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 6: But other than that, I'd say I'm doing better than

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Speaker 6: than Hanson Yang.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good. Now we'll get to Flag

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Speaker 1: in a second. But I'm sorry to spring this on you,

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Speaker 1: but I really would like your instant reaction to an

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Speaker 1: NBA draft pick. Right, I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 1: who it is, but I want your instant reaction, all

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Speaker 1: your basketball acumens. What you think about this pick? Okay, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: So here we'll give you the announcement so you can

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Speaker 1: kind of just understand this, this is the pick, and

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Speaker 1: tell me what do you think of the selection?

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Speaker 4: The Portland Trailblazer select Cedric Coward from Washington State University.

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Speaker 5: So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.

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Speaker 1: Here, Rick, what what effect will this have on Colin's show?

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Speaker 1: Will he leave for Portland? You're on that show a lot?

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know he started his career in Portland, so

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Speaker 6: it's really not all that surprising that that they would

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Speaker 6: pick him and then immediately trade him to the Memphis

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Speaker 6: Chris Wait wait wait wait wait? What we took? Who

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Speaker 6: we took a talk show host? Who can we dump

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Speaker 6: them off on what the Grizzlies don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if.

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Speaker 10: They'll go for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he could do is you could do

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Speaker 1: a show in Memphis in the morning and then play

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Speaker 1: in the game at night.

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Speaker 6: Uh, he could very well do that. He is Uh,

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Speaker 6: he is a man of much energy and talent.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 10: You know the funny thing is Howard would have uh

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Speaker 10: he actually he saw that he got drafted and uh,

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Speaker 10: and then found out that he got traded and uh,

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Speaker 10: he was pretty much like he didn't.

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Speaker 6: Even get the hat. It's uh, he just gave me

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Speaker 6: an idea. I need to I need to bring him.

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Speaker 6: I need to bring him a Grizzlies hat next time

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Speaker 6: I am along with him. Let him experience what he

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Speaker 6: missed out on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just think it was. It was right there,

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Speaker 1: a big sponsor his blazing five NFL picks, the Blazers

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Speaker 1: blazing five picks. And now he can't do that.

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Speaker 6: I will say this, considering the lack of interest in

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Speaker 6: the Portland Trail Blazers right now, it might have been

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Speaker 6: the shrewdest pick that they could have made. Must say,

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Speaker 6: I must say right now that Colin's ratings or higher

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Speaker 6: than the Portland Trail Lazer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, if they take Colin and Dan Patrick back

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Speaker 1: to back, I mean, that's that's a hell of a backcourt.

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Speaker 6: And then, of course, you know that is his relationship

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Speaker 6: with Nick Right. Nick Wright would have got him dealt

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Speaker 6: to the Lakers just no matter, would have taken no

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Speaker 6: time at all. That would have been a training camp move.

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Speaker 6: So alas we won't get to see.

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Speaker 1: Any of that, all right, Well, instead we'll spend most

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Speaker 1: of the time, obviously breaking down Cooper Flag to the

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Speaker 1: Mavericks at number one. We knew this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Was a faded company when I say Cooper Flag. The

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Speaker 1: next couple of years with him in Dallas, what what

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Speaker 1: do you see on the landscape for he and the Mavericks.

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Speaker 6: Well, it really depends on when Kyrie Irving get comes back.

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Speaker 6: Is you know what is he when he gets back

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Speaker 6: atls are not a by any means. Career ending injury

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Speaker 6: or even career affecting injuries are pretty pretty standard procedure now.

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Speaker 6: But at his age and the way that he plays,

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Speaker 6: as dynamic as he is, there's a little more of

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Speaker 6: a question mark in terms of can he be the

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Speaker 6: same Can he be the same player? And then can

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Speaker 6: Anthony Davis stay healthy? But if those two factors, if

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Speaker 6: those if those two things can happen, I look at

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Speaker 6: the rest of his team, and I look at Cooper

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Speaker 6: Flag fitting in and and I think that the window

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Speaker 6: there is to be in in the mix in the

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Speaker 6: Western Conference. If they have all hands on deck, then

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Speaker 6: I like them as much as anybody going up against

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Speaker 6: going up against Oklahoma City Thunder or anybody else in

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Speaker 6: the West. There's some talk about them signing or acquiring

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Speaker 6: DeAngelo Russell to be a placeholder or you know, fill

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Speaker 6: the gap while while Kyrie is out. I think I

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Speaker 6: think that would be a decent move, depending on what

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Speaker 6: the number is. So I think it's I'm I'm really

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Speaker 6: excited to see this because it's very rare that we

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Speaker 6: get a number one pick, but we know can play,

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Speaker 6: you know what level he's going to play, But he's

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Speaker 6: going to be a good player, and I would expect

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Speaker 6: that he's going to be in the league for a

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Speaker 6: long time. He could be a special player, and it's

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Speaker 6: very rare that we get to see that kind of

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Speaker 6: player go to a team that is already in the

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Speaker 6: playoff mix. When healthy, and I would put the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Mavericks inspite of what happened this year when healthy in

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Speaker 6: that mix. So I'm really excited to see what happens.

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Speaker 6: I'm very optimistic that Dallas Mavericks are going to make

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Speaker 6: some noise this year.

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Speaker 3: Now we have another player with we've got expectations he

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Speaker 3: can play, but he didn't expect to go play there.

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Speaker 3: That's Ace Baylea, after a very strange route to the

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Speaker 3: draft night, not a guy who looked really excited about

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Speaker 3: going to Utah. Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm one of the reasons I was told that

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Speaker 6: he didn't work out is because the workout also include interviews,

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Speaker 6: meeting with people, and that they they were they feared

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Speaker 6: that he was not going to do well in those interviews,

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Speaker 6: and so that's why they evaded them. I was told

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Speaker 6: that the Wizard, he had a secret workout with the Wizards.

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Speaker 6: That's really where he wanted to go. I think that's

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Speaker 6: been reported. But what concerns me is that he's already

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Speaker 6: thinking that he's got you know, he's ready to take

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Speaker 6: on Janisante to compo, and his measurements were less than

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Speaker 6: what was expected, and I'm just I'm getting Kim Reddish

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Speaker 6: vibes in terms of a guy who has has the

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Speaker 6: entire package physically and is a shot maker, but is

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Speaker 6: he going to have the discipline and the work to

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Speaker 6: do the little things and become more of an efficient player.

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Speaker 6: That was the big knock on him is that he

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Speaker 6: can make almost any shot, but he also so is

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Speaker 6: capable of taking almost any shot regardless of whether it's

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Speaker 6: the right shot to take or not. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: how that plays in Utah remains to be seen. And

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Speaker 6: but I don't you know, in this day and age,

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Speaker 6: we got a lot of guys who come in and

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Speaker 6: they come in and they're very confident. I'm all for confidence,

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Speaker 6: but when you're talking about you know, I got something

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Speaker 6: to show a guy who's already been a league MVP

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Speaker 6: and is a champion. I would I feel better about

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Speaker 6: a guy coming in as young as as Bailey is

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Speaker 6: with just you know, an ounce or two of humility

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Speaker 6: in terms of, hey, I just want to get there

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Speaker 6: and I want to prove that I'm I'm an NBA player.

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Speaker 3: Rutger's not being any good in the NC double A

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Speaker 3: should have been a clue to that.

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Speaker 6: Rick, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, and I you know, and

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Speaker 6: there Ben Simmons vibes because he didn't even get there,

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Speaker 6: you know, at LSU and obviously was was a top pick.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think there's you know, this is always

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Speaker 6: the struggle is you see guys who have the requisite

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Speaker 6: physical ability to be special in the NBA. But my

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Speaker 6: feeling is, uh, I want guys who have demonstrated that

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Speaker 6: they can win. And like Markel Folks, same thing. You know,

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Speaker 6: was was looked at as a great individual player, had

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Speaker 6: all of the measurements, but what did he do and

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Speaker 6: at the at the college level not a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm very suspicious of guys like that.

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Speaker 1: Rick Bucker our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from

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Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, well, I want

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Speaker 1: to say the streak ends today the first time in

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Speaker 1: four days the Celtics have not traded one of their

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Speaker 1: high profile players.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: First it was Drew Holliday, then it's Chris topsporzingis what

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Speaker 1: do you make of what you have seen and what

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Speaker 1: we could see from the Celtics so far.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think financially that look, we knew that we're

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Speaker 6: going to move some some guys and and try to

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Speaker 6: get some cap reliefs. They were looking at a price

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Speaker 6: tag of like five hundred million dollars with the luxury

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Speaker 6: tax and everything else, so there was It's not a

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Speaker 6: surprise that they moved guys. I just wonder how how

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Speaker 6: much Jason Tatum get being injured and being out next

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Speaker 6: year influenced what they went to get, because as I

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Speaker 6: look at it, you've got Anthony Simon's and George Niang,

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Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken, both are on expiring contracts after

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Speaker 6: this next season. And it feels to me like they

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Speaker 6: went and got guys that they know we're going to

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Speaker 6: be able to play that that because they need to

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Speaker 6: field the team, and without Jason Tatum and even Drew

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Speaker 6: Holiday and Christophsperzingis, you know, had health issues, you didn't

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Speaker 6: know how many games they were going to be able

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Speaker 6: to play. I just wonder how aggressive they were in

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Speaker 6: doing that. I don't buy into the rumors that, you know,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brown might be out there too. I don't think

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Speaker 6: this is a complete teardown by any means. But you know,

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Speaker 6: you heard you heard Josh Cronki make the crazy comment

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Speaker 6: about uh, you know, god, I hope we don't have

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Speaker 6: to trade Nikola Yokich, which is like, you know what

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Speaker 6: you don't I know you don't want to, so just

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Speaker 6: don't say that, you like, couldn't have those words come

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Speaker 6: out of your mouth.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 6: But the reason that he said it is I think

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Speaker 6: because with the current salary cap system, the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 6: and to a certain extent, the Phoenix Suns are top

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Speaker 6: of mind where you're you're literally forced to trade guys

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Speaker 6: because you've signed multiple guys Dalen Brown and Jason Tatum

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Speaker 6: to to supermax or max contracts and you're suddenly faced

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Speaker 6: with the Positi. He's like, oh, we we have to

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Speaker 6: trade guys like ten cents on the dollar just so

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Speaker 6: that we don't pay, you know, half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 6: And so I think that's what he was he was saying,

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Speaker 6: And basically it's a very clunky thing to say. It's

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Speaker 6: like we just going to warn you guys, we're not

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Speaker 6: going to be spending any money, you know.

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Speaker 1: But instead he didn't say all that. He just said basically,

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Speaker 1: one bed, one guy gets hurt, and we have to

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Speaker 1: trade you Like that's one guy gets hurt, we got

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Speaker 1: to trade him.

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Speaker 6: One guy that we pay just a little bit too

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Speaker 6: much money and he gets injured and all hell is

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Speaker 6: going to break loose here. So uh, just letting the

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Speaker 6: entire roster know. Hey, guys, there there will be no

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Speaker 6: bonuses in your check is here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't don't hurt, don't put in the swimming pool. Griswold,

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Speaker 3: all right, last one for you, Rick, Kevin Durant, timing

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Speaker 3: of the trade announcement, fanatics fest and all that fun

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Speaker 3: ahead of Games seven in the final, And what's his

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Speaker 3: impact there in the planet Houston, Well.

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Speaker 6: He knew, he knew he was going. I don't think

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Speaker 6: it was surprized. I mean that's where he wanted to go.

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Speaker 6: I think the timing of it may have you know,

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Speaker 6: the didn't ogs going down while he would be on

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Speaker 6: stage being interviewed that said, Look, I like I like

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Speaker 6: the move. Houston didn't have to give up a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks, I don't

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Speaker 6: think Phoenix is their last stop. I think it was

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Speaker 6: basically a you know, a first round pick and two

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Speaker 6: guys that we can potentially move for a first round

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Speaker 6: pick somewhere down the line. The teams that are you know,

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Speaker 6: either poised to add a guy to bolster their playoff

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Speaker 6: chances or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 10: I think both of.

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Speaker 6: Those guys have that potential and or or market value.

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Speaker 6: And then for for Kevin one, he's exactly what they need.

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Speaker 6: So that's a plus in terms of a go to closer. Uh,

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Speaker 6: they already have an established culture and floor leader with

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Speaker 6: Fred van Vliet and Emai Odoka. They have some really

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Speaker 6: young talent and they can defend at a high level.

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Speaker 6: So I like it. I'm not you know, there's people

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Speaker 6: out there that have them as title contenders. I could

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Speaker 6: see where they're The question is going to be where

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Speaker 6: are they going to be seated? Because while they were

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Speaker 6: the number two team in the West, they were sixteen

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Speaker 6: games behind the number one seed, and they were only

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Speaker 6: four games ahead of the number eighteen the Memphis Grizzly,

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Speaker 6: So losing Dalen Green and Dylan Brooks, I could see

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Speaker 6: that impacting them in the regular season, while Kevin makes

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Speaker 6: them a more dangerous playoff team. So the question is

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Speaker 6: going to be exactly where are they seeded and who

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Speaker 6: do they have to face when As far as how

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Speaker 6: far they go, I would fully expect that they get

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Speaker 6: past the first round. But do I have them as

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Speaker 6: idle contenders? I can't quite quite go that far.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick

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Speaker 1: Buker Fox Sports One. Check out They on the Ball podcast,

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Speaker 1: in which he now breaks down the Blazers chances in

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Speaker 1: the West with brand new shooting guard Colin Coward in

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Speaker 1: the fold. Uh the trade to Memphis? What that meant?

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Speaker 1: What it would have been?

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Speaker 6: I just got noticed the Knicks are interested in trading

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Speaker 6: with the Blazers for who for?

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Speaker 10: Oh, he may be on the move again.

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Speaker 1: Take it easy, Rick, We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: Have fun, buddy Poward, Yo, there you go.